Thanks for taking time out to make the video. Sounds pretty good but that 2nd pass on the example in the 8 minute range, sounds boxy, 1st pass sounded better.
I agree that the second pass wasn't ideal. Capturing a noise profile in that way is challenging, especially when doing it live, and the goal was to demonstrate how to capture a profile in that scenario. Ideally, I would use Voice De-noise as the second pass to clean up the noise embedded in and between the words. These days, I'm not even using Spectral De-noise, or RX's standalone editor anymore because I can get comparable results in less time with newer tools. The other thing to keep in mind is that I'm not going for perfection when I edit and clean up podcasts. People are more likely to stop listening because of noisy audio than if it sounds a little boxy, so that is what I'm aiming for.
@living-wisdom When I say that, I'm talking about plugins for de-noising and de-reverbing dialog. I'm still using some RX modules like Mouth De-click, Voice De-noise and De-plosive as plugins. The newer tools are Supertone Clear, Accentize dxRevive, and Cedar Audio VoicEx. You can check out this video where I compare them against the new Dialog Isolate plugin from RX11. ruclips.net/video/aUHleCWpr5A/видео.html I will say that I edit podcasts, so plugins work for me. If I were doing something like an audiobook, I would use the RX editor for a number of things. The RX editor has its place, but for my day-to-day needs, I prefer to do all my work in my DAW.
Nicely explained. I would have have first run a high/low cut EQ to roll off some of the very high end, and all of the garbage under the fundamental of the voice with a very steep low cut filter. Removing these frequencies first makes for a little less work for the spectral noise reduction module to deal with. Not sure it matters, but it makes me feel better :-).
Since I run De-plosive later in my chain, I don’t run a low cut. I typically just handle that as part of my EQ during the mix phase. Running it before or after shouldn’t make a noticeable difference to the result of the de-noising, but the De-plosive module needs that low end energy to work properly.
Here's a short video showing how I export a file out of RX. www.loom.com/share/535c3f033b27460b9f33190f71a734a9?sid=c7837880-5747-4216-8eee-a6768c0890fc
Everyone keeps saying that you have to find an area where there is only noise to take a sample from. Some recordings do not have that option. I have a voice and some cell phone clicking getting on the lav mic. The noise occurs during the voice. Apparently, I can't remove the noise then, only mitigate it. Frustrating.
Spectral de-noise isn’t the best tool for your situation. Have you tried Voice De-noise? If that doesn’t work, you could try de-click or maybe painting it out in the spectral editor. Intermittent sounds like that are the worst. It’s something I don’t bother with for client work. In my opinion, the ROI just isn’t there.
@@jesse.mccune A combination of declicker and decrackle have been the best so far, but I was hoping to go surgical. The spectragram shows the noise takes up a lot of real estate. Painting it out effectively seems unlikely, but I could of course experiment. But yeah, that would have to be on my time, not the client.
Thanks for taking time out to make the video.
Sounds pretty good but that 2nd pass on the example in the 8 minute range, sounds boxy, 1st pass sounded better.
I agree that the second pass wasn't ideal. Capturing a noise profile in that way is challenging, especially when doing it live, and the goal was to demonstrate how to capture a profile in that scenario. Ideally, I would use Voice De-noise as the second pass to clean up the noise embedded in and between the words. These days, I'm not even using Spectral De-noise, or RX's standalone editor anymore because I can get comparable results in less time with newer tools. The other thing to keep in mind is that I'm not going for perfection when I edit and clean up podcasts. People are more likely to stop listening because of noisy audio than if it sounds a little boxy, so that is what I'm aiming for.
@@jesse.mccune I'm curious to know what the 'newer tools" are that you find preferable to RX editor, etc.
@living-wisdom When I say that, I'm talking about plugins for de-noising and de-reverbing dialog. I'm still using some RX modules like Mouth De-click, Voice De-noise and De-plosive as plugins. The newer tools are Supertone Clear, Accentize dxRevive, and Cedar Audio VoicEx. You can check out this video where I compare them against the new Dialog Isolate plugin from RX11. ruclips.net/video/aUHleCWpr5A/видео.html
I will say that I edit podcasts, so plugins work for me. If I were doing something like an audiobook, I would use the RX editor for a number of things. The RX editor has its place, but for my day-to-day needs, I prefer to do all my work in my DAW.
Thanks a lot!
Nicely explained. I would have have first run a high/low cut EQ to roll off some of the very high end, and all of the garbage under the fundamental of the voice with a very steep low cut filter. Removing these frequencies first makes for a little less work for the spectral noise reduction module to deal with. Not sure it matters, but it makes me feel better :-).
Since I run De-plosive later in my chain, I don’t run a low cut. I typically just handle that as part of my EQ during the mix phase. Running it before or after shouldn’t make a noticeable difference to the result of the de-noising, but the De-plosive module needs that low end energy to work properly.
How will you then export the audio? Tried to export it multiple times but the result non audio empty paper like thing.
Here's a short video showing how I export a file out of RX.
www.loom.com/share/535c3f033b27460b9f33190f71a734a9?sid=c7837880-5747-4216-8eee-a6768c0890fc
how to use it for live streaming audio, the spectral denoise?
You won't be able to use Spectral De-noise for live streaming. It's built for post-production and not capable of processing live audio.
@@jesse.mccune its working for me nicely via Light Host, on Voicemeeter Banana. Its not too heavy.
I used steelseries Sonar for this. It's perfect at denoising live.
Everyone keeps saying that you have to find an area where there is only noise to take a sample from. Some recordings do not have that option. I have a voice and some cell phone clicking getting on the lav mic. The noise occurs during the voice. Apparently, I can't remove the noise then, only mitigate it. Frustrating.
Spectral de-noise isn’t the best tool for your situation. Have you tried Voice De-noise? If that doesn’t work, you could try de-click or maybe painting it out in the spectral editor. Intermittent sounds like that are the worst. It’s something I don’t bother with for client work. In my opinion, the ROI just isn’t there.
@@jesse.mccune A combination of declicker and decrackle have been the best so far, but I was hoping to go surgical. The spectragram shows the noise takes up a lot of real estate. Painting it out effectively seems unlikely, but I could of course experiment. But yeah, that would have to be on my time, not the client.