Nice! This is the TV practice scheduled by the event director.... but it seems wider practice for the other challengers later this week has been cancelled... TBC
Dalts stated in an interview not so long ago that it's 80% foils and 20% sails. The hulls were there to stop people falling in the water as they made only 1% difference. Day one race one shall reveal all I guess
They all look great in 20 knots of breeze. The real test will be if they get shifty low speed wind. Being able to foil and change direction in light winds could be key. Ineos will be praying for consistant, strong breezes, which is what they should expect in Barcelona in August and September, but a few days of fluky light winds could see them struggle. They seem to struggle to get up in light airs, but we shall see. Whatever comes along it's going to be epic sailing. Great video.
Great footage, zero coming out from main stream - Thank You!!. Music compilation on point, who would have thought, Metallica / Tupac on AC, perfect combo. On the racing, Ineos looks great upwind, NZ looks very slippery / lower downwind (shades of last AC).
We need to start a crowd fund to get this guy in the most forward apartment block! 😂 Great footage though! 👌🏼 They must’ve wanted to test themselves to get some baselines in against their opponents.
100% both teams will not be showing their hands, and 1000% ETNZ will never do this ever again after many lessons learned in the past. That said, the ENTZ bow up attitude is interesting, not seen that before today, but even more so, the twist in the sail at 29.28 on ETNZ is insane. INEOS showing it too earlier in the video with a powerful mark rounding. These boats are going to be very special, they look a huge step on from the last cup despite looking outwardly similar.
very different assets on the water ETNZ appears to be more heeled to leeward this is probably not the foils but different arm angle... Less spray on the foils.. of etnz (this usually indicate less drag) the interesting part it's that this is not "the hauraki lake" ..
Spray is a good observation, that was my first thought too. Particularly spray vertical height, which in my head at least, contrary to drag makes me think ETNZ have a way of keeping more of the flow attached at the foil root.
They will be faster with a small windward heal. That seems to be their racing position. If there is a slight leeward heel I reckon they’re sandbagging on the heel….a slight windward heel gives them a little less drag/pressure on the foil…..
This is going to be such a close competition. Can't see to,much difference in terms of straight line speed . I suppose we will just have to wait and see once racing starts. I have a distinct feeling that all teams still have a fair bit of development to go. Not showing all their cards just yet.
Inteesting video etnz seems very stable in the chop , very interesting bow up profile on the kiwi boat , what have those crazy kiwis come up with this time one wonders .
All the sailing experience i've ever had was on sun fish and sail fish when I was in my early teens but it looks to me from 6:12 to 7:20 that Ineos is more than just competitive.
@@dulls8475 Are you secretly a Kiwi Fanboy? Do you have an official fanboy outfit in your soon to liberated closet? I haven't seen anyone reply to such an extensive amount of comments so often and use the term "Kiwi Fan Boys."
@mozzysails Q: last week you commented on ETNZ changing a keel after the boat drop but was that in regs or was there a 120 hours notice that needed to be given? I didn't quite understand what the main point was but it has been on my mind since!!!! :)
Less amplitude certainly, makes me think ETNZ are able to keep flow attached and stable in the foil root which appears a design advantage. This may not be helpful in
I've used top end music, on my other YT sites, by the likes of Queen and had no problems. YT notes it being there, but even though it's copyrighted, they let you use it anyway. You usually don't get any revenue from your vid, however. This isn't the case with all top end music, of course, but I've only had one get rejected.
i very much like watching it like this , but is there any way you could convince someone in the front building to let u film from there. only 5 more days . maybe u can get it organized and get a vhf radio so u can listen to the boats
Is there some 'sandbagging', 2 boards down, here by ETNZ? Inoes looks solid in high breeze, but ETNZ look like they're having to go slowly to stay together. Still think Ineos will have a wicked High-mode with that nose-down. Just ETNZ won't care and hoon off on the downwind. 22 sleeps left!
All very interesting. I wonder if etnz have gone for tack speed at the expense of upwind speed so as to be able to cover and configured for a downwind blitz.Not even sure if possible to configure for this strategy.
It's the crew that will win the cup they are the ones that can make their boat go fast, it's down to knowing their boat each person doing their job their crew work have got to flow and the tacticians have got to sail to their strengths ,,I reckon all the boats are fast ,,it's down to sailsmanship, crew work..That's what I think anyway?
@@dulls8475you seem to be a non supporter of etnz. Its tough when a team is so good all you can do is trash them huh? Im a kiwi but im in no way disillusioned, more of a realist. ETNZ are a hell of a team and they will be doing well to hold the cup this time round given the competition. If they do win youll just have to keep on trashing them and hope they lose next time, lol. Cmon ETNZ 😊
1 Thought racing/measuring each other out, was illegal!? (TV show? legally arranged??) 2: Both sandbagging, so don't know anything for sure, but both learned from it. NZ "suddenly" ""changed" sailstyle.. bow up, heel wrong way..: = SANDbagging!)
hopefully we will have these conditions thru out the pursuit for the cup. Also, does this media event give a leg up on the other teams? Can they protest not being able to “ practice “ against each other ?
We truly have no idea how fast these things are. The only real comparison you get is when you see a (close to) 2000hp chase boat struggling to keep up! 😀
Watch again the first part of the Video when they are on the same tack. Then compare the wakes. Ineos foil is bumping into the chop. See the spray. ETNZ wake is like coming out of a hose. This has to translate into speed.
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I've always had a saying in motocross the bigger the Rooster tail of the bike the harder the bike is. Yet never mind the rider. this tells me a story of a boat that has a rooster of a story to tell,,
The only thing you can read from that footage is they sailed against each other. We wont truly know where they are at until its crunch time. Looks more like a play day out really.
I wish like formula 1 they did qualifying laps so that the start could be separated by the front runners not getting held up by the much slower boats. These new Boats are going to be spectacular.
@@ruggericci The point was not in a match race. But seeded groups. Prior too the match race. Adds more to the event calander as they already have practices. If you want a lot off blocking off tactics sure.
@user-hz1dv2yc3x Last two Americas cup should tell you something. Kiwis always have extra up their sleeves. Greatest innovators in the world. How many Americas Cups has your country won?
At this stage no point in sand bagging for any team with racing so close , only ETNZ can afford doing that as they have time to build and adjust but even that’s tight ,, others are now in tune and race manoeuvres , and doing things fast , going slow sandbagging can create a habit or damage,
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Nice! This is the TV practice scheduled by the event director.... but it seems wider practice for the other challengers later this week has been cancelled... TBC
Great spot btw Mozzy. Thanks for the heads-up
Is it me or does INEOS's main look a lot narrower?
@Phatman63 yeah, they're running a smaller mainsail. Infact they seem to often run a smaller main compared to other teams based on the recon
You@@Phatman63
Dalts stated in an interview not so long ago that it's 80% foils and 20% sails.
The hulls were there to stop people falling in the water as they made only 1% difference.
Day one race one shall reveal all I guess
its going to be an epic series
Holy cow that's insane speed over water!! What must it be like crewing those boats 🤯
Thanks for this, Justin, greatly appreciated. Haven't seen anything like this yet! Hope you do some more...
Both look fast! Thanks for posting!
They all look great in 20 knots of breeze. The real test will be if they get shifty low speed wind. Being able to foil and change direction in light winds could be key. Ineos will be praying for consistant, strong breezes, which is what they should expect in Barcelona in August and September, but a few days of fluky light winds could see them struggle. They seem to struggle to get up in light airs, but we shall see. Whatever comes along it's going to be epic sailing. Great video.
INEOS are not going to struggle
Great footage, zero coming out from main stream - Thank You!!. Music compilation on point, who would have thought, Metallica / Tupac on AC, perfect combo. On the racing, Ineos looks great upwind, NZ looks very slippery / lower downwind (shades of last AC).
@@georgetaramai7899 just a random mix of my Spotify playlist haha ! Will be sure to include some more bangers in the next one
We need to start a crowd fund to get this guy in the most forward apartment block! 😂
Great footage though! 👌🏼 They must’ve wanted to test themselves to get some baselines in against their opponents.
The penthouse with jacuzzi please. You're all invited!
@@raw_offshore😂
Can't wait for the racing to start.Awesome
Needs to tell his neighbour to turn the awful music down!
Both incredibly fast, some great racing to come
Thanks for posting.... nice to see the boats out on the water. Only racing will tell us the strengths of each team i think.
100% both teams will not be showing their hands, and 1000% ETNZ will never do this ever again after many lessons learned in the past. That said, the ENTZ bow up attitude is interesting, not seen that before today, but even more so, the twist in the sail at 29.28 on ETNZ is insane. INEOS showing it too earlier in the video with a powerful mark rounding. These boats are going to be very special, they look a huge step on from the last cup despite looking outwardly similar.
Has TNZ got its new foils on yet ?
Bow up...Sandbagging??
Wait a second. But all the NZ fan boys can tell us that the NZ boat is faster....
@@dulls8475 Ineos looks much faster here but until they actually race we wont really know.
@@JohnDoe-ix4kx I agree. You cannot tell who has the fastest boat because 2D angles can be so misleading.
ETNZ appears holding constant speed through the tack....INEOS appears to have an almost undetectable stalling moment.
The new Hoons & Boy racing from the water! Who's sandbagging? Roof top recon! Brilliant!
Never really struck me how enormous they are till I saw how tiny the windsurfers in the foreground compared
Definitely going to be a good one. That's for sure.
Love the soundtrack. Ineos is a chonky boat! Seeing it next to ETNZ it looks twice as thick!
Black is slimming, ask your Mrs.
@@sly6627my mrs is black and it ain’t very slimming. 😂
very different assets on the water ETNZ appears to be more heeled to leeward this is probably not the foils but different arm angle...
Less spray on the foils.. of etnz (this usually indicate less drag)
the interesting part it's that this is not "the hauraki lake" ..
Spray is a good observation, that was my first thought too. Particularly spray vertical height, which in my head at least, contrary to drag makes me think ETNZ have a way of keeping more of the flow attached at the foil root.
They will be faster with a small windward heal. That seems to be their racing position. If there is a slight leeward heel I reckon they’re sandbagging on the heel….a slight windward heel gives them a little less drag/pressure on the foil…..
Excellent.. first touch.. thank you! ^^ I'll be there:. till October i hope.. ^^ 🌜🌔🔴🏁
ETNZ seem to be able to sail in a few different modes.. a high mode that smoked INEOS both up wind on the last leg and a low direct mode down wind..
Whatever...
@@dulls8475 haha good luck to all the teams and supporters fella. Let hope that the real racing will be great to watch!
Must have watched a different race NZ were smoked
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This is going to be such a close competition. Can't see to,much difference in terms of straight line speed . I suppose we will just have to wait and see once racing starts. I have a distinct feeling that all teams still have a fair bit of development to go. Not showing all their cards just yet.
Not long to go now, can't wait
Inteesting video etnz seems very stable in the chop , very interesting bow up profile on the kiwi boat , what have those crazy kiwis come up with this time one wonders .
Well fact is INEOS have a truly unique design that NZ have not
@melvinlonghurst8394 Hopefully Ineous unique design does not bring back the "unique" problems that they had in the last Americas cup !!!
I sure like the look of the new American boat. It may not sail worth a damn but it's gonna look good doing it.
I really thought they would be the boat to beat but this practice racing flipped the script
It's not a beauty pageant
Who know s who's faster...but it so cool to watch.!
Go Kiwi ! Bring it home )
more like keep it home, heheh :)
@@zacpower_9835 Home is where ever Grant Daltons $$ are. Saudi Arabia is now our Home to.
@@zacpower_9835 Thats my point )
Awesome footage love it 😊
great catch thank you
All the sailing experience i've ever had was on sun fish and sail fish when I was in my early teens but it looks to me from 6:12 to 7:20 that Ineos is more than just competitive.
Only NZ fans can claim that.
Nice Work Mr Badger!
Is that the US boat watching from the sideline?
Io spero che il campo di regata sia più ampio della scorsa stagione, altrimenti sarà noioso! Cmq NZL velocissima
ETNZ have appeared to changed the moding this cycle, they seemed really bow up with more leeward heel
id sayt thats just in high wind as they dont need the power
Nah , it's breaks on
@@aaronpercy650 & The twist in that nain ?
@@heathfairweather896 By both boats or are you a Kiwi fanboy?
@@dulls8475 Are you secretly a Kiwi Fanboy? Do you have an official fanboy outfit in your soon to liberated closet? I haven't seen anyone reply to such an extensive amount of comments so often and use the term "Kiwi Fan Boys."
Love the Metallica, Fitting!
Great Footage and soundtrack mate! Bit more pressure closer to shoreline I think? Can’t see much between them.
NZ looks Faaaaaaasssttt!!!!!
Yeah, looks like a cat playing with its prey. "I can let you go, and re-catch you any time I feel like".
INEOS look even better
@@melvinlonghurst8394 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@melvinlonghurst8394 ETNZ smoking Ineos by over 30secs in the practice races. See you guys at the finish line lol
I wonder if the kiwis world landsailing record has showed them a few more tricks like angling the mast
Notice the mast on the kiwi boat is angled back slightly compared to the British boats mast which is more upright
@mozzysails Q: last week you commented on ETNZ changing a keel after the boat drop but was that in regs or was there a 120 hours notice that needed to be given? I didn't quite understand what the main point was but it has been on my mind since!!!! :)
Not sure it means anything but the spray coming from TNZ foil looked less ragged than Ineos
Yes, I thought the same
Think you’re right guys. Interesting.
Less amplitude certainly, makes me think ETNZ are able to keep flow attached and stable in the foil root which appears a design advantage. This may not be helpful in
Grasping at straws NZ have a fight on their hands
@@melvinlonghurst8394 But unfortunately not from INEOS
Anticipating this video getting copyright struck by 30 different record labels but the footage is awesome. Hope it stays up!
Enjoy while it lasts 🤞
@@raw_offshore Will do 👍
I've used top end music, on my other YT sites, by the likes of Queen and had no problems. YT notes it being there, but even though it's copyrighted, they let you use it anyway. You usually don't get any revenue from your vid, however. This isn't the case with all top end music, of course, but I've only had one get rejected.
@@BeachcomberNZ i'm not part of the youtube monetary partnership so hopefully won't be a problem, just throwing this content up for the fans
i very much like watching it like this , but is there any way you could convince someone in the front building to let u film from there. only 5 more days . maybe u can get it organized and get a vhf radio so u can listen to the boats
Nz looking 👍🏾
@walteroess8023 it's not a matter of wind this time... matter of waves in October in that spot..
looking good
Nz in questo ha molta più superficie velica...
It appeared that way.
In high winds, the Kiwis are unbeatable!! Go all Blacks!!!
Not what I saw
We'll see soon enough...
Cannot wait for to see the true performance on the water my money is on INEOS to race in the final
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Is there some 'sandbagging', 2 boards down, here by ETNZ? Inoes looks solid in high breeze, but ETNZ look like they're having to go slowly to stay together. Still think Ineos will have a wicked High-mode with that nose-down. Just ETNZ won't care and hoon off on the downwind. 22 sleeps left!
I agree think ETNZ was playing with them
All very interesting. I wonder if etnz have gone for tack speed at the expense of upwind speed so as to be able to cover and configured for a downwind blitz.Not even sure if possible to configure for this strategy.
See Mozzy Sails recent foil analysis which supports your suggestion
We shall see in the final against INEOS
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It's the crew that will win the cup they are the ones that can make their boat go fast, it's down to knowing their boat each person doing their job their crew work have got to flow and the tacticians have got to sail to their strengths ,,I reckon all the boats are fast ,,it's down to sailsmanship, crew work..That's what I think anyway?
ETNZ saying to American Magic ,LR ,Swiss , French , Hold My Beer 🍻 while I send it
Knowing ETNZ it will be interesting to see them take the brakes off. I think the other contenders are in for a surprise.😊
for sure hope so, it definitely looks that way doesn’t it.
@@SoaaJr Look at all the worried NZ fanboys....
@@dulls8475you seem to be a non supporter of etnz. Its tough when a team is so good all you can do is trash them huh?
Im a kiwi but im in no way disillusioned, more of a realist. ETNZ are a hell of a team and they will be doing well to hold the cup this time round given the competition.
If they do win youll just have to keep on trashing them and hope they lose next time, lol.
Cmon ETNZ 😊
@@dulls8475 what do you mean fanboys? Is there a problem with it brother 🤙🏻🤙🏻
@@waynecrawford4904 My post was not for you.
Early on Did etnz have two foils in the water and INEOS wasn’t catching them ?
And the sail up and under ineos ?
So Kiwi fan base.....you even answer yourself....
Reeks of NZ desperation
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1 Thought racing/measuring each other out, was illegal!? (TV show? legally arranged??) 2: Both sandbagging, so don't know anything for sure, but both learned from it. NZ "suddenly" ""changed" sailstyle.. bow up, heel wrong way..: = SANDbagging!)
Like you know....
hopefully we will have these conditions thru out the pursuit for the cup.
Also, does this media event give a leg up on the other teams? Can they protest not being able to “ practice “ against each other ?
nah, they all sail TNZ in the Round Robin anyway
both boats look incredibly quick… how much was this staged for the camera or actual 100% racing is the real question.
Ineos look very quick downwind!
The music is so perfect 😅
Even Doja Cat? 🤣
Wow- really close racing- at least as far as this goes.
INEOS foils making more spray and Emirates has more mast rake?
Your right that is because INEOS are using legacy foils
@@melvinlonghurst8394 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
We truly have no idea how fast these things are. The only real comparison you get is when you see a (close to) 2000hp chase boat struggling to keep up! 😀
Ìt ain't racing until its racing. Very quick boats.
Wonder why ETNZ are so bow up usually you see them the bow is kissing the water
Maybe sand bagging , but one can really see the kiwi boat looking way fast and wave steady, Brit’s bow looks to bob up and down a lot,, thoughts ?
And looks chubby
Watch again the first part of the Video when they are on the same tack. Then compare the wakes. Ineos foil is bumping into the chop. See the spray. ETNZ wake is like coming out of a hose. This has to translate into speed.
Watch Taihoro go bow down and hit another gear - bow up is sandbagging. No point showing the CoR anything before the actual 1st race for the Auld Mug.
INEOS with the small main up… etnz nose up… sandbagging…. No way to tell
Italy will give the Kiwi's a fright,as max serena said a few weeks back "I hope they worry"
A game of cat and mouse...but who is the cat and who is the mouse.
Quando ci fai vedere luna rossa in azione magari Vs american magic
Ineos looks fast! Man they are motoring!
That is because the Kiwi boat is sandbagging and according to my NZ fanboy source the KIwi boat is actually twice as fast as INeos.
Yep NZ fans are scared @@dulls8475
INEOS look fast😮!
Super
Holy Jaisus! The Brits look quick!
That is because according to the NZ fan boys they were towing a range rover under water so as not to give away too many secrets.
@dulls847😂😂5
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@@dulls8475
Range Rovers make great boat anchors. 😆👍
ENTZ sandbagging for sure. Very high bow ride height compared to their normal 'Nitro mode'.
Any excuse
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Etnz mast bend amazing
As the defender shouldn't ETNZ have the america's cup logo on it instead of LV?
@carisi2k11 The logo is on the jib, all teams will have it
Its in Spain thus Isn't Spain now the defender ?
dem foilzzzz
what was the music for?
Music is for art.
20:41 INEOS cross behind but then are well ahead at the gate
Wow but then it turns right back around. The real races are going to be so good
Well the Pom's don't have a Landrover this time ,maybe not an Aston , though it is looking sharp.
They’ve upgraded to a Princess.
@@fabmanly1070 Add it to the famous list of Kiwi production cars.
@@dulls8475maybe not cars, but jetboats and the odd motorbike (the britten) 😊
@@waynecrawford4904 Ah the Britten, exported all over the world and world famous in New Zealand.
BSA, Triumph, Norton and here are British motor Bikes beginning with the letter A.
Abbotsford motorcycles (UK 1919)
ABC motorcycles
Aberdale
Abingdon Motorcycles
ABJ (motorcycle)
Advance Motor Manufacturing Company
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Ajax (motorcycle)
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AJS
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NZ will be cut down by the sharpness of INEOS
What is said at 22.37?
I've always had a saying in motocross the bigger the Rooster tail of the bike the harder the bike is. Yet never mind the rider. this tells me a story of a boat that has a rooster of a story to tell,,
Nice! The differences are dramatic - end results are close. So interesting. How much faster are these Gen 2 boats over the last Cup?: ‘heaps’
Except for Patriot 2, apparently, according to the interview with their team.
@@jasonpickens9839 where, you say..?!
INEOS need to get a bit more ride height.. touching down on the bow too often
You miss the point this is the correct angle for end plating
ETNZ has more rake on the mast
1:42 had to zoom out to keep INEOS in frame huh? 🤭
ETNZ seemed to spend a long time with both foils down
Ineos looks quick (at times)
The only thing you can read from that footage is they sailed against each other.
We wont truly know where they are at until its crunch time. Looks more like a play day out really.
Not true. Read the Kiwi posts.
@@dulls8475 What kiwi posts do you mean? If you mean ny what kiwis are saying on here, id take it with a pinch of salt.
@@waynecrawford4904 Yes
cant read anything into it at this stage but I think INEOS is looking very good
Windsurf planning... Wins is 18-20 kn
I wish like formula 1 they did qualifying laps so that the start could be separated by the front runners not getting held up by the much slower boats. These new Boats are going to be spectacular.
how's that a issue in match race? that's not f1, think again
@@ruggericci The point was not in a match race. But seeded groups. Prior too the match race. Adds more to the event calander as they already have practices. If you want a lot off blocking off tactics sure.
The audio track would have been great had it not been recorded with a hairdrier
Totally anecdotally the Ineos boat looks very stable with better angle of attacks.
When they were both on the same Tack ETNZ was quicker and playing with them
@@jamieallam8809 Time will tell my friend
@@jamieallam8809 You speak with such certainty.
@user-hz1dv2yc3x Last two Americas cup should tell you something. Kiwis always have extra up their sleeves. Greatest innovators in the world. How many Americas Cups has your country won?
@@jamieallam8809 You do realize NZ have a Brit as lead designer, get over yourself.
ETNZ weirdly bow up
Kiwis appear to be a stab quicker off the wind…?
Appearances can be deceptive
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I thought this "practicing" against other teams wasn't allowed??
What's wrong with the focus
Turn the volume down and it’s much more enjoyable
Ineos is like a see saw or a ferry on the Cook Striaght in a 6m southerly swell.
So she is twitchy and that means there is improvement yet to come....
@@dulls8475 better hurry. short window to a team going home
@@michaeldewhirst2863 All the teams go home. Geography not your strong point?
@@dulls8475 only one takes the silverware
@@michaeldewhirst2863 Well done. You should be on mastermind.
why the horrible noise?
This will get you a few subs thanks
There seems to be more wash on the back of the English boat than the Kiwi boat..NZ look slightly faster.
That's because INEOS unlike NZ are still using their legacy foils
@@melvinlonghurst8394 are they really???
Yep
@@melvinlonghurst8394where did you find that information???…if it’s true ineos might be unbeatable 😮
Is it me or is Ineos nose down??
At this stage no point in sand bagging for any team with racing so close , only ETNZ can afford doing that as they have time to build and adjust but even that’s tight ,, others are now in tune and race manoeuvres , and doing things fast , going slow sandbagging can create a habit or damage,