In such a scenario, I don't think the Western Allies would've said anything about Germany moving in to reclaim its eastern territories as Poland collapsed.
Except that Germany possessed no ability to take any of their pre-Versailles land without the military to back it up. It's honestly more surprising in this scenario that the Soviets didn't keep going after Poland since that was the Bolsheviks' intention.
@@polskamapping6116if the bolsheviks kept on going into germany i think realistically there would be a entente military response as the rhineland was entente occupied so their military would be able to respond
@@LittleK1ng I don't doubt the Entente would have secured the Rhine and possibly a bit more of Germany, but even then they were drained from WW1. The comment I was replying to said that Germany could just move in to "reclaim" their pre-WW1 lands which made no sense.
The main problem that Soviets face in almost all timelapses if fighting the Western Allies is their inability to control the Baltic sea. Allied landings in Estonia or Finland distract substantial amounts of Soviet forces which prevents them from achieving breakthroughs in Germany. Even if Soviets manage to maintain control of Denmark, it somehow can't help them with keeping Allied navies out of Baltic sea.
@@tomaravlic5730Well yeah that’s cause the Allies were historically way stronger than the Soviets post-WWII. America & the Allies lost very significantly less men in the fighting, while the Soviets had just finished fighting a death war where a significant amount of its population died & much of its industry & infrastructure was destroyed. If the Allies were caught off guard, maybe the USSR could’ve conquered continental Europe, but the Allies still would always be able to defeat them in the long run
@@familyguygaming_, Англия была настолько сильной, что в 1950 провела деколонизацию?😅 Единственная страна, кто получил больше всего бенефитов от Второй Мировой - США, за счет "помощи" и торговли с СССР, Третьим Рейхом и Великобританией
This video may have resulted in an axis victory during the Second World War. This would likely make Lenin’s position more stable and although the wouldn’t live longer, it would be likely Trotsky would become leader of Soviet Union and would not have industrialized
No it’s absolutely nonsense. With Soviets at the border Germany would have definitely have became Communist receiving a major boost from the Soviets. By having such a large industrial power on the side of the USSR would have made global Communism almost inevitable
Stalin brought said industrialisation up to 50, of course with horrific casualties as a result of this slapdash breakneck approach. Without him, the USSR's industrial base would be weaker to some extent.
@@Alexandre-ni1if Weimar Republic is just a name people use to mean the German Republic between 1918 and 1933 but Germany itself was always named "German Reich" during the interwar period.
@@Alexandre-ni1if "Weimar Republic" is a name used by historians and scientists, and it was used by soem publicists but it had never been the name of the state. Name of the state in 1870-1943 was Deutches Reich, and in 1943-45 Grossdeutsches Reich.
Сan you make the WW1 and WW2 with ethnic borders, i.e. draw boundaries in Europe according to the population of peoples? For the most part, this applies to the countries of the Triple Alliance and the Russian Empire (USSR). Please 🙏
This often happens, with the anti-fascist uprising subordinating itself to the strongest Allied member of the continent which always ends up being Britain.
In such a scenario, I don't think the Western Allies would've said anything about Germany moving in to reclaim its eastern territories as Poland collapsed.
Except that Germany possessed no ability to take any of their pre-Versailles land without the military to back it up. It's honestly more surprising in this scenario that the Soviets didn't keep going after Poland since that was the Bolsheviks' intention.
@@polskamapping6116if the bolsheviks kept on going into germany i think realistically there would be a entente military response as the rhineland was entente occupied so their military would be able to respond
@@LittleK1ng I don't doubt the Entente would have secured the Rhine and possibly a bit more of Germany, but even then they were drained from WW1. The comment I was replying to said that Germany could just move in to "reclaim" their pre-WW1 lands which made no sense.
@@polskamapping6116 soviets would have also taken all of balkan lands and only stopped in front of the entente.
@@polskamapping6116 because it's Hoi4. It's already a cliché in that game for it to rig everything in order to make USSR lose
The main problem that Soviets face in almost all timelapses if fighting the Western Allies is their inability to control the Baltic sea. Allied landings in Estonia or Finland distract substantial amounts of Soviet forces which prevents them from achieving breakthroughs in Germany. Even if Soviets manage to maintain control of Denmark, it somehow can't help them with keeping Allied navies out of Baltic sea.
Yeah, honestly Ive become bored of these timelapses cause i already know the outcome, the allies always win
@@tomaravlic5730Well yeah that’s cause the Allies were historically way stronger than the Soviets post-WWII. America & the Allies lost very significantly less men in the fighting, while the Soviets had just finished fighting a death war where a significant amount of its population died & much of its industry & infrastructure was destroyed. If the Allies were caught off guard, maybe the USSR could’ve conquered continental Europe, but the Allies still would always be able to defeat them in the long run
@@familyguygaming_, Англия была настолько сильной, что в 1950 провела деколонизацию?😅
Единственная страна, кто получил больше всего бенефитов от Второй Мировой - США, за счет "помощи" и торговли с СССР, Третьим Рейхом и Великобританией
@@vlasstelintyomniy4724 I don’t speak AIDS & liver failure
So Poland defended us from 1 billion casualties in a war
Tak(yes)
Great work! Video idea: What if India joined Japan in ww2
2:48 those 2 Soviet divisions tho, although being surrender but they still manage to hold off to wait for the Soviet to comeback
Soviet ai always sucks, they're in war with germany but still manage to attack guarantied finland XDD
Great video idea!
Did the October Revolution get an overhaul in Rise of Nations? It looks a lot better than last time I checked.
This video may have resulted in an axis victory during the Second World War. This would likely make Lenin’s position more stable and although the wouldn’t live longer, it would be likely Trotsky would become leader of Soviet Union and would not have industrialized
No it’s absolutely nonsense. With Soviets at the border Germany would have definitely have became
Communist receiving a major boost from the Soviets. By having such a large industrial power on the side of the USSR would have made global Communism almost inevitable
Stalin brought said industrialisation up to 50, of course with horrific casualties as a result of this slapdash breakneck approach. Without him, the USSR's industrial base would be weaker to some extent.
Lore of What if the Soviet Union Won the Soviet-Polish War? | HOI4 Timelapse Momentum 100
so ur telling me they defeated germany but not the allies? dayum
Allied naval superiority in the Baltic always kills them. The Soviets can never compete with that entire faction near-singlehandedly.
do you know what happened to dan the historian's youtube channel
How is that? The Allies have won again. Very unexpected 😒
That peace treaty looks actually quite good.
Надеюсь ТВОЮ страну постигнет та же участь
What song at start?? Pls tell
what is the division showcaser mods name?
I love your content❤
Why German Reich was here in 1921?
Because that's what Germany was named.
No, it was Weimar Republic or just Germany (it's true Reich in German it's just Empire but Germany was a democraty after ww1)
@@Alexandre-ni1if Weimar Republic is just a name people use to mean the German Republic between 1918 and 1933 but Germany itself was always named "German Reich" during the interwar period.
@@Alexandre-ni1if "Weimar Republic" is a name used by historians and scientists, and it was used by soem publicists but it had never been the name of the state. Name of the state in 1870-1943 was Deutches Reich, and in 1943-45 Grossdeutsches Reich.
Reich means Realm, let's not get it in our heads that the Nazi dictatorship had any overriding claim to this one word in the German language.
What game is this?
Hearts of Iron 4
Blessed Big Finland
DID ALBANIA PUPPET FREAKING BULGARIA?! :0
No, Bulgaria just got a new color from the civil war it had.
how do i make 2 germanies like this?
That looks like realistic
Bulgaria somehow earned territory despite being on the axis side
Take a look at the map, Bulgaria had a civil war during this WW2 and the opposing side joined the Comintern.
My brother is Soviet unioooon
Nice
My big brother Allies
Is my brother Allies
Romania got too much land
Сan you make the WW1 and WW2 with ethnic borders, i.e. draw boundaries in Europe according to the population of peoples? For the most part, this applies to the countries of the Triple Alliance and the Russian Empire (USSR). Please 🙏
British Italy
This often happens, with the anti-fascist uprising subordinating itself to the strongest Allied member of the continent which always ends up being Britain.
Poland bad endjng
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