@@LinkSky-b4n i would also believe they did it with zzz too. Because right now after several months passed, you'd actually see a lot of people playing the same game. All those toxic disguised players left and both fandom are now at peace.
And they never mention how. The only thing I can agree with is that the Wuwa community can display some form of toxic positivity but thats nothing compared to the Hoyoverse community.
@@vincentzhuo5222 There's very bad people in every communities, genshin, wuwa, TF2, CoD or even flashgames, its just that some are really fked up, so much so that they will do anything to feel strong and mighty by causing chaos at every corner they can without even a care.
Hoyoshills: “WuWa has the most toxic fandom. Always attacking our favorite game” Also Hoyoshills: > Tries to have Hoyo CEO assassinated > Cried foul because of HI3 Bunny costumes causing it to be removed > Attacks Voice Actors > Review bombs other apps when throwing tantrums (RIP Google classroom)
I just can’t get over the fact they actually shitted on google classroom of all apps it’s not even a game it’s a school applications majority of the hoyo community is 🤡
The bunny fiasco was what made me quit Hi3 (Say what you will about it, but it was a pioneer of the mobile anime-style 3D ARPG genre). The consolation "rewards" they gave the global playerbase at that time was a real slap in the face.
I think Marco was already getting tired of Genshin and its fanbase long before, coz normally he would mediate in his chat and would call out people shitting on Genshin. But on his Rinascita Act 2 playthrough, he complimented Abby for actually being useful and not just there to yap -- even said that he doesn't like to use the word "yap." He didn't name drop, but we all know who he was referring to. He definitely got tired of the negativity, and with the case of the Genshin community, negativity is the only thing they bring to the table.
this point? bruh since genshin succees they already become a cult even attacking their own people, i still remember those not black enough character, or dori va that gets harassed because dori is annoying like wth
They feel insecure that’s why they attacking other game gacha The list of victim is Infinity nikki Wuthering waves The last victim is arknigths endfield
Marco is really goat, his passion for music is unreal. I've been following when he used to cover soulsbourne games and man never slacks off. Curse this hoyoshills.
they ousted one of the only guys who is more than qualified to judge music design (the guy LOVED their game too btw), AND THEN doubled down when said ousted guy actually appreciates music outside their circle? wtf’s wrong with these people?
This isn't the first time it happened for him from hoyo fans. His content is wholesome too given his background and passion for Music. He also voiced some of the NPC's in Genshin too.
I subscribe to Marco after find he react to Lamia OST from PGR because how he accurately know how the story come in to pieces in music. He was a good man, he never like gacha game but after heard to PGR Ost from Vanguard he intrigue so he try gacha games first with PGR then so on. He know Kuro did a good job in PGR so that's why he love Wuthering Waves. He still said he hate gacha systems but not the games. He have play genshin, hsr for a while plus praise most of the OST but probably due to how Hoyo handle their games, the bloated dialogue and the gameplay with enemies always have this hp inflatation causing it took his time for too long and spending on their game was not worth it. He really want gacha games change like into different thing, like he said game first gacha second. I'm not glazing but from what I know only Kuro devs did this. There probably other some devs I miss.
yeah; if you're a player but you dont constantly grind and spend, its hard tokeep up. He started PGR way later than its release and was still able to enjoy it because the game is nto as predatory as some others. And your point story is important because obviously, he's not a child, he will understand things without having a floating diaper repeating ALL dialogues to him and will prefer if characters gets to the point. Btw, he's not glazing the Wuwa story but he likes where the art direction (story and setting) is going. Its what he enjoys the most.
Good lord. Of all people, they chose to attack Marco? The gacha community should be thankful that he even covers gacha considering the pressure from many non-gacha players for him to stop covering them. He's literally a gem in the gacha space cause he makes actual good content with educational value. I just hope that Marco leaves Twitter all together, that place is a cesspool. I'm getting second hand embarrassment from this people. It's not that Marco was even glazing WuWa, he practically started that "wuwa has mediocre music" conversation in 1.0 which most of the wuwa community agreed. Then suddenly they attack him for liking wuwa now?
This is what happened when people can't make the difference between irl and a video game. They base their life and personality around a video game making it more important than anything else. Its like for them nothing is more important than Genshin, if you insult their mom it will be nothing but if you dare bad mouth this game, oh boy you better be ready.
Or when they spend thousands of dollars on a single video game. Their brain can only justify those decisions if Genshin is the greatest game that has ever existed.
I asked him on his comment section in his community post about him deactivating twitter (which is deleted now) like 2 days ago about if he would react to Natlan's music (New weekly Music and the music from Archon quests). He replied!!! He said: Its coming next week But then he deleted the post but atleast I saw his reply in my notifications bar. (If you guys want I could post proof)
I said this many times Hoyotards destroyed their own game they toxic behaviors too much it makes normal gamer feels disgusting about mihoyo game and some of them already leave
bro, Marco is one of the best specially Opera music because you know its not my forte, so I watch him, also I love his reaction in Lorelei's "Queen of the Night" you see his genuine reactions
Ive never understood the "no your ours, you traitor!" mentality. People get tribal like this over gotcha games, other game studios, new games vs old games, console vs console and console vs pc. Its all the same story. People who love one thing want it to be the best and most successful so they, sometimes unconciously, attack people who step outisde their bounds. Real life outside gaming this happens a lot too. Good example being blacks who forgo "black culture" to get good educations, live in white neiborhoods and become self sufficient are often called out as traitors to the black community. Kinda off topic but just interesting to see this is such a common phenomenon.
his video was so uplifting and he was mostly talking about the fact these "free" to play games are making music he likes a lot easier to be shared and talked about. HOW DO YOU GET MAD AT THIS ?
It's just my speculation but i think that what they're trying to do is the type of treatment of "Speak about it then you'll get this" to a next level like dude, alot of people are blending as "one of us" or "one of them" to see digital pop up screens for entertainment. Now adding to the fuel to the fire that was already burning to burn more, now it's more like a fireworks display that outmatches the 2025 fireworks celebration.
Also (funny enough I discussed this with friends lately; if the theory correct) nowadays there is big problem with internet user - they don’t take responsibility for their words, have permissiveness. In past if tried to speak this kind of bs you would have got beaten, so you needed to think how you communicate with others. Nowadays we have this sh..heads get scot-free taking no responsibility for their words. Very sad situation because of the pathetic excuse for a human being
Most likely the cause is his "game befor a gotcha" video where he praised wuwa as a fantastic game throwing hoyo under the bus as bad "games" with good media.
Video: Responsibility is like kryptonite to women. Literally my GF 2 seconds later: I just don't want to take the responsibility🤣🤣 Timing was way too perfect
probly with all the crap going on man probly just wanted to get away from twitter. untill he says the reason why no point pulling at strings that anit there
People seem to forget that Marco voiced a well liked event NPC, Dvorak, twice because he is such an expert on music. Hell, i think it was Hoyo themselves who reached out to him first, or maybe he did i can't remember so take that with a grain of salt. Genshin community, and it's JUST the Genshin cult of the hoyo communities mind you, keeps making life hell for others.
Every game has their uniques genshin used suahili language for nathlan the warior state wuwa in the other hand used classical theme like the opra they even have tefrence from legendary opra songs take an example the lorelei ost which is a refrence of "Queen of the night " (ester eggs) and they nailed it with the theme but genshin in the other hand nathlan is a little disappointing it doesn't fit for the theme Nathan says is the land of warriors but what you seen some chikens all they do is just dance around sing , etc xD
Yeah, when I first saw his thumbnail and title, two things came to my mind: Is he really prepared to handle the hate from the community, or does he just not know how crazy the community is? Now, I think it's the second one.
Marco could've chosen a different thumbnail for his video cause he barely mentions anything about Hoyo games in the video. He was primarily praising WuWa for improving upon 1.X in 2.0. From the music especially as well as the overall presentation. And he is right cause playing through 2.0 of WuWa it doesn't feel like a gacha games. It feels like a AAA game in general.
He slowly became typical drama bait wuwa shill now, the thumbnail just show what he truly is, although he keep pretend to be neutral and rational guy, just some hypercrite
@@stevenys234imagine went ballistic to someone because of the bait thumbnail. As expected of a fandom from a game that was made to be a pure cash cow.
@@stevenys234 i watched his WuWa streams. There was nothing drama baiting or controversial about it that warranted hate. He was simply enjoying the 2.0 update after being quite critical of WuWa's 1.X patches especially in regards to the music. Again the only thing Marco should've known better was having a 'bait' thumbnail. If it was simply a normal WuWa image none of this would've happened.
The vocal side of the gacha community is evil. "I will not let you play Wuthering Waves". Nah, no random buffoon on the internet ever controls what anyone can or can't do. Such a petty and tough guy retort that will never get nowhere.
as always people will overate and praise hoyoverse games and trash WuWa or any games that compete them... its sickening why too much praise on their game and continue to attack WuWa.. hoyoverse has blinded a lot of players of what makes a good game and just makes great graphics and animation to set a bar as a good game...
Hoyo shiIIs are the most criinge peopIe, theyre not a gamer, they are just casuaIs who started pIaying games with Hoyo games. I mean games are made to be pIayed, games are not made for players to only play and stay loyal to one game.. most gamers know this, but these casuaIs are criinge
There are a lot people like this that understand it, but because of hoyo sh.ts (with this bs I think it’s rightful to call them this) these not only make other people look bad but also their oh so perfect GI
I like the guy. I watch some of his videos, but i can't stand some of his takes on twitter hence i dont follow him (i barely remember them). He does this thing of constantly comparing this to that, and makes bold claims every single day while expecting not to get inflamatory replies. I get it, you dont deserve harrasement just because you sharing some insight; but it's 2025's internet, get over it, you know how it goes (especially gatcha/genshin's fandom). Fight back or back up your claims at the very least.
@@danusorn8655 how about stop being an asshole on the internet for once. Just because its THE internet doesn't excuse someone from being an asshole. The lack of empathy is insane.
What Gachas have you been trying out Recently?!
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welp, from now on their "genshin music is good" has no weight
I mean genshin music is good it has nothing to do with the toxic fanabase of it anyway
and now.. they(hoyoshill) will disguised as wuwa player to shitpost and paint wuwa community being toxic to damage control like usual.
They already doing it in Arknigth Enfield disguised them self as a WuWa player and attacking Ak player to start war WuWa community and AK community
@@LinkSky-b4n i would also believe they did it with zzz too. Because right now after several months passed, you'd actually see a lot of people playing the same game. All those toxic disguised players left and both fandom are now at peace.
and they will continue to say wuwa has the worst fandom compared to mihoyos
I do agree WuWa got some bad actors in the community. But hey, at least we never try to assassinate someone or do these kind of stuffs lol.
And they never mention how. The only thing I can agree with is that the Wuwa community can display some form of toxic positivity but thats nothing compared to the Hoyoverse community.
@@vincentzhuo5222 There's very bad people in every communities, genshin, wuwa, TF2, CoD or even flashgames, its just that some are really fked up, so much so that they will do anything to feel strong and mighty by causing chaos at every corner they can without even a care.
@ exactly 😭
@@vincentzhuo5222not yet wait till ananta and nte comes out
Hoyoshills: “WuWa has the most toxic fandom. Always attacking our favorite game”
Also Hoyoshills:
> Tries to have Hoyo CEO assassinated
> Cried foul because of HI3 Bunny costumes causing it to be removed
> Attacks Voice Actors
> Review bombs other apps when throwing tantrums (RIP Google classroom)
What did google classroom do that’s a school app
And how they harassed an innocent cat just because it reminds them of scaramouche
@@gmgalt bruh
I just can’t get over the fact they actually shitted on google classroom of all apps it’s not even a game it’s a school applications majority of the hoyo community is 🤡
The bunny fiasco was what made me quit Hi3 (Say what you will about it, but it was a pioneer of the mobile anime-style 3D ARPG genre). The consolation "rewards" they gave the global playerbase at that time was a real slap in the face.
I think Marco was already getting tired of Genshin and its fanbase long before, coz normally he would mediate in his chat and would call out people shitting on Genshin. But on his Rinascita Act 2 playthrough, he complimented Abby for actually being useful and not just there to yap -- even said that he doesn't like to use the word "yap." He didn't name drop, but we all know who he was referring to.
He definitely got tired of the negativity, and with the case of the Genshin community, negativity is the only thing they bring to the table.
That why he hope 2.0 doing great so he can openly praise WuWa 🎉
Yes I remember he react wonderer boss theme and I also actually like it too. Too bad that fandom turned out to be like this.
PROTECT MARCOMEATBALL AT ALL COSTS!!!!
Atp, the hoyoshills are just a cult.
this point? bruh since genshin succees they already become a cult even attacking their own people, i still remember those not black enough character, or dori va that gets harassed because dori is annoying like wth
this + twitter = parasocial behavior.
I kinda want to see them go against swifties
unsurprisingly, the genshin community gets worse overtime and much worse since wuthering waves released.
😂😂😂😭😂
They feel insecure that’s why they attacking other game gacha
The list of victim is
Infinity nikki
Wuthering waves
The last victim is arknigths endfield
@@rudychandz7113 even dress up games get attacked, damn.
@rudychandz7113 Wait what? Can you pls tell about Endfield situation?
Marco is really goat, his passion for music is unreal. I've been following when he used to cover soulsbourne games and man never slacks off.
Curse this hoyoshills.
they ousted one of the only guys who is more than qualified to judge music design (the guy LOVED their game too btw), AND THEN doubled down when said ousted guy actually appreciates music outside their circle? wtf’s wrong with these people?
They just weakened their image and that's good XD they're showing how toxic their community is XD
WHAT'D THEY DO TO MY BOY MARCO WTF
Was found ded
im still waiting for his reaction to Roccia's RS 😢
This isn't the first time it happened for him from hoyo fans. His content is wholesome too given his background and passion for Music. He also voiced some of the NPC's in Genshin too.
I love MarcoMeatball's content, he's the only one I consistently watch when it comes to video game music/ost reviews and perspectives.
his takes on how music shape your experience are always interesting
I subscribe to Marco after find he react to Lamia OST from PGR because how he accurately know how the story come in to pieces in music. He was a good man, he never like gacha game but after heard to PGR Ost from Vanguard he intrigue so he try gacha games first with PGR then so on. He know Kuro did a good job in PGR so that's why he love Wuthering Waves. He still said he hate gacha systems but not the games.
He have play genshin, hsr for a while plus praise most of the OST but probably due to how Hoyo handle their games, the bloated dialogue and the gameplay with enemies always have this hp inflatation causing it took his time for too long and spending on their game was not worth it. He really want gacha games change like into different thing, like he said game first gacha second. I'm not glazing but from what I know only Kuro devs did this. There probably other some devs I miss.
yeah; if you're a player but you dont constantly grind and spend, its hard tokeep up.
He started PGR way later than its release and was still able to enjoy it because the game is nto as predatory as some others.
And your point story is important because obviously, he's not a child, he will understand things without having a floating diaper repeating ALL dialogues to him and will prefer if characters gets to the point.
Btw, he's not glazing the Wuwa story but he likes where the art direction (story and setting) is going.
Its what he enjoys the most.
Good lord. Of all people, they chose to attack Marco? The gacha community should be thankful that he even covers gacha considering the pressure from many non-gacha players for him to stop covering them.
He's literally a gem in the gacha space cause he makes actual good content with educational value.
I just hope that Marco leaves Twitter all together, that place is a cesspool. I'm getting second hand embarrassment from this people.
It's not that Marco was even glazing WuWa, he practically started that "wuwa has mediocre music" conversation in 1.0 which most of the wuwa community agreed. Then suddenly they attack him for liking wuwa now?
This is what happened when people can't make the difference between irl and a video game. They base their life and personality around a video game making it more important than anything else.
Its like for them nothing is more important than Genshin, if you insult their mom it will be nothing but if you dare bad mouth this game, oh boy you better be ready.
Or when they spend thousands of dollars on a single video game. Their brain can only justify those decisions if Genshin is the greatest game that has ever existed.
I started following Marco after his reaction to PGR Narwhal and loved it
Very cool CC
I think it's more appropriate to call them Hoyo employees/unpaid interns rather than Hoyo players
Hoyoshils.. Hoyoshills everywhere.. Hope Marco return soon..
The bigger you get the more hate you get it's as simple as that it doesn't matter if you're good or bad
My expectation to Hoyoshills are low but gawd dayum! Marco only review the game and music.
I asked him on his comment section in his community post about him deactivating twitter (which is deleted now) like 2 days ago about if he would react to Natlan's music (New weekly Music and the music from Archon quests).
He replied!!!
He said:
Its coming next week
But then he deleted the post but atleast I saw his reply in my notifications bar. (If you guys want I could post proof)
The Genshin community really killed his hype for the music
Sad but expected since his nat praising the Premier Game genshin impact
I said this many times
Hoyotards destroyed their own game they toxic behaviors too much it makes normal gamer feels disgusting about mihoyo game and some of them already leave
bro, Marco is one of the best specially Opera music because you know its not my forte, so I watch him, also I love his reaction in Lorelei's "Queen of the Night" you see his genuine reactions
No
@@charroboo Yes
Genshin kids throwing a tantrum.
Hoyoshills should understand that liking a game doesn't make you a bot
Im so sick with genshin Impact community 🤦
Ive never understood the "no your ours, you traitor!" mentality. People get tribal like this over gotcha games, other game studios, new games vs old games, console vs console and console vs pc. Its all the same story. People who love one thing want it to be the best and most successful so they, sometimes unconciously, attack people who step outisde their bounds. Real life outside gaming this happens a lot too. Good example being blacks who forgo "black culture" to get good educations, live in white neiborhoods and become self sufficient are often called out as traitors to the black community. Kinda off topic but just interesting to see this is such a common phenomenon.
I've watched a few of his content. I love his reviews. So sad to hear this.
0:01 Thead? more like Threat
his video was so uplifting and he was mostly talking about the fact these "free" to play games are making music he likes a lot easier to be shared and talked about.
HOW DO YOU GET MAD AT THIS ?
It's just my speculation but i think that what they're trying to do is the type of treatment of "Speak about it then you'll get this" to a next level like dude, alot of people are blending as "one of us" or "one of them" to see digital pop up screens for entertainment. Now adding to the fuel to the fire that was already burning to burn more, now it's more like a fireworks display that outmatches the 2025 fireworks celebration.
Also (funny enough I discussed this with friends lately; if the theory correct) nowadays there is big problem with internet user - they don’t take responsibility for their words, have permissiveness. In past if tried to speak this kind of bs you would have got beaten, so you needed to think how you communicate with others. Nowadays we have this sh..heads get scot-free taking no responsibility for their words.
Very sad situation because of the pathetic excuse for a human being
they need to go outside and interact to people face to face
Doro44? Na fam didn't know about his recent Twitter take about gacha and parents and that's crazy!
If i am marco, i will : "i had courtesy enough. ROAAAAAAAARRR"
Most likely the cause is his "game befor a gotcha" video where he praised wuwa as a fantastic game throwing hoyo under the bus as bad "games" with good media.
i enjoy his content for his perspective on the music..
I woke up, i scroll RUclips, i saw this and watch this.... My mood ruined because H fanbase doing bad things to good CC again.
Video: Responsibility is like kryptonite to women.
Literally my GF 2 seconds later: I just don't want to take the responsibility🤣🤣
Timing was way too perfect
probly with all the crap going on man probly just wanted to get away from twitter. untill he says the reason why no point pulling at strings that anit there
Let's respect hoyshills, they provide time for us, to be with us rather than picking weeds
Wow that may be why he didn't release roccia video react even tho he is there. I hope he really like it tho.
The downfall of this game really is approaching. 😂 the ceo and his community really destroying it.
Damn Hoyoshills are on a rampage lately 😅
Genshin Impact should be ban 🗣️
bro... WTF
People seem to forget that Marco voiced a well liked event NPC, Dvorak, twice because he is such an expert on music. Hell, i think it was Hoyo themselves who reached out to him first, or maybe he did i can't remember so take that with a grain of salt. Genshin community, and it's JUST the Genshin cult of the hoyo communities mind you, keeps making life hell for others.
Remember guys hoyoshills are worse than kpop stans and swifties😂
Every game has their uniques genshin used suahili language for nathlan the warior state wuwa in the other hand used classical theme like the opra they even have tefrence from legendary opra songs take an example the lorelei ost which is a refrence of "Queen of the night " (ester eggs) and they nailed it with the theme but genshin in the other hand nathlan is a little disappointing it doesn't fit for the theme Nathan says is the land of warriors but what you seen some chikens all they do is just dance around sing , etc xD
Don't recommend this drama channel *click*
Yeah, when I first saw his thumbnail and title, two things came to my mind: Is he really prepared to handle the hate from the community, or does he just not know how crazy the community is? Now, I think it's the second one.
Marco could've chosen a different thumbnail for his video cause he barely mentions anything about Hoyo games in the video. He was primarily praising WuWa for improving upon 1.X in 2.0. From the music especially as well as the overall presentation. And he is right cause playing through 2.0 of WuWa it doesn't feel like a gacha games. It feels like a AAA game in general.
He slowly became typical drama bait wuwa shill now, the thumbnail just show what he truly is, although he keep pretend to be neutral and rational guy, just some hypercrite
@stevenys234
You attributing Criticism as "Drama"
Typical
@@stevenys234imagine went ballistic to someone because of the bait thumbnail. As expected of a fandom from a game that was made to be a pure cash cow.
@@stevenys234 i watched his WuWa streams. There was nothing drama baiting or controversial about it that warranted hate. He was simply enjoying the 2.0 update after being quite critical of WuWa's 1.X patches especially in regards to the music.
Again the only thing Marco should've known better was having a 'bait' thumbnail. If it was simply a normal WuWa image none of this would've happened.
@@stevenys234 Me when I lie
The vocal side of the gacha community is evil.
"I will not let you play Wuthering Waves". Nah, no random buffoon on the internet ever controls what anyone can or can't do. Such a petty and tough guy retort that will never get nowhere.
as always people will overate and praise hoyoverse games and trash WuWa or any games that compete them...
its sickening why too much praise on their game and continue to attack WuWa..
hoyoverse has blinded a lot of players of what makes a good game and just makes great graphics and animation to set a bar as a good game...
Some hoyotards have brain damage.
Hoyo shiIIs are the most criinge peopIe, theyre not a gamer, they are just casuaIs who started pIaying games with Hoyo games. I mean games are made to be pIayed, games are not made for players to only play and stay loyal to one game.. most gamers know this, but these casuaIs are criinge
There are a lot people like this that understand it, but because of hoyo sh.ts (with this bs I think it’s rightful to call them this) these not only make other people look bad but also their oh so perfect GI
I like the guy. I watch some of his videos, but i can't stand some of his takes on twitter hence i dont follow him (i barely remember them). He does this thing of constantly comparing this to that, and makes bold claims every single day while expecting not to get inflamatory replies. I get it, you dont deserve harrasement just because you sharing some insight; but it's 2025's internet, get over it, you know how it goes (especially gatcha/genshin's fandom). Fight back or back up your claims at the very least.
Or you know, just stop interacting with you guys all together.
Get over online harassment is honestly funny when your job has most to do with online content
What a Horrible take
@@LUCAS420BLZwhat’s he gonna do then? Getting over it IS the best solution. Instead of, you know, letting it affect you.
@@danusorn8655 how about stop being an asshole on the internet for once.
Just because its THE internet doesn't excuse someone from being an asshole.
The lack of empathy is insane.
It's impossible to back up your claims against people with child's mentality or literal children, there is no way to do so lol
WuWa is a devil game
🥹
Wuwa is a devil game 😂😂😂😂
Brother, come back here after you see what the Archon’s name is based of
they are not attacking him, he deactivated 2 seconds after posting the video LMAO
This isn't the first time he got attacked by the Genshin community y'know lmao, the genshit community is stupid and full of morons.
They are attacking him, he showed screenshots on his Bsky
Dude spreading misinformation like his mom spreading her legs
lmao
I swear genshittards full of people whom cannot read text and attacking others but playing victims when getting counterattacked
Marco is the Voice actor for Dvorak in genshin impact