It’s quite sad to see the contrast with her and Zendaya - you can tell who has parents that probably cared and protected them. I hope Bella will be okay, and I’m glad we have so much more mental heath awareness now.
This is why I say having good parents and guardians ARE A PRIVILEGE because they help people form good habits and coping mechanisms whist bad parents and guardians enable people to form bad habits and coping mechanisms. Assault & abuse sticks with people their whole lives and people have to fight tooth and nail just to get themselves out of negative patterns. 🙁
@@DoraWinifred Please stop, girly. Nobody ever said it wasn't possible for kids with good parents to be abused but if you really think kids with good parents aren't less at risk than kids with bad parents, you are delusional.
People don't realize that most of SA happens in the victims' own houses. All my life I've only been told to be scared of strangers but most of the time(not always), the victim's ab*sers are who they KNOW. The world we live in is crazy
Apparently the whole “stranger danger” thing was made up despite knowing it’s likely to be a family member or family friend. They didn’t want to scare people off from the classic, American dream of a perfect family life.
@@SmartStart24 seriously 😑 it’s like it also explains how she didn’t know or didn’t care she was too involved in herself. Ugh her poor little girl 😞🤦🏻♀️
If you found out your child was being harmed on a near daily basis under your own roof, the guilt, the shock, the anger, and the instinctual need to protect your child on top of knowing you failed would be a LOT to handle. We dont know if she is prone to any other mental disorders. Add that on top of the fact that her mother found out on social media after who knows how many other people saw it. She wasnt confided in. That is super traumatic. So when you have the entirety of the internet and then some cursing you out and blaming you for not protecting your child from these monsters for years on top of needing said child to be the breadwinner... yeah. "I'm still processing/seeing a therapist" is a perfectly valid non-narcissistic response. A narcissistic response would be writing an entire essay on how devastated they were and their life story as this was happening, making their childs pain all about them. Using "I'm" twice in a tweet doesnt make it all about them.
@@dakotacollins3818 she should’ve known...the fact that she had “no idea” seems ridiculous to me especially since they lived in a trailer not a large home where things could go on that you would miss. she had to have known and just didn’t do anything about it.
I used to get so mad at my dad for not letting me go into acting when I was younger, now I thank him everyday that he didn’t. The film industry is so awful to children
Very true. But I imagine there’s a lot of work the parents have to do to get these kids in any door. Kids usually can’t reach doorknobs that high on their own. Good stage parents are so few and far between unfortunately.
I can’t believe these innocent children grow up in the most toxic and scary environment at Hollywood! Like my child hood movies and shows are messed up i don’t even see them the same anymore
@@deniseb.4656 I totally agree with you it’s just so sad. Like putting these little children on the spotlight at a young age because parents want money
I feel you! It’s so crazy to know all the people we grew up watching went through way more, then we could ever imagine! & I feel the same about the shows, and movies! Smh
As a CSA survivor myself, I relate so heavily to Bella's story. My abuser was my stepfather, and it also began before I was old enough to form memory and lasted until my early teens. The only reason I was able to get the courage to tell someone about the abuse was because my mother got pregnant again and we found out it was a baby girl. I couldn't protect or stand up for myself, but I wasn't going to sit by and let him hurt my baby sister. She truly saved me. Without her, I'm honestly not sure if I ever would've told anyone. I relate so much to Bella when she says that it changed her as a person. I've often felt like he killed the girl that I was meant to be, that the life I was meant to live was stolen from me. And the worst part of it all is that after over a decade of suffering at this monster's hands, he only spent 4 months in prison. He was released early for "good behavior". It absolutely crushes me, and blows my mind. It feels like I was victimized a second time by our justice system. Of course he behaved in prison, there are no children in there!!! Our broken system allows for 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th time offenders to exist. It helps to create them by not punishing these crimes as severely as they deserve. He's now out and happily remarried to a woman with young granddaughters. The state forced my mother to give him visitation with my baby sister because "There's no evidence to suggest he'd abuse his biological child". He's back to having full access to minor children, and nobody seems to care but me. It sickens and disgusts me. It hurts. I worry for those girls every single day of my life. It hurts to know that I did everything I could to protect others from suffering at his hands, and it wasn't enough, and nothing ever will be. There is no justice in our justice system.
@@tamaraj4745 Thank you, I appreciate your understanding and kindness ♡ Unfortunately what was done to me can never be undone. The important part now is to take every opportunity to speak out and make people understand that the justice system in the US isn't taking these crimes seriously, and in not doing so, allowing additional children to be victimized by these offenders when they could prevent it. I'm at the point in my healing journey now where it's becoming increasingly important to look for way to get into advocating for stricter sentencing for sexual crimes against minors. I can't sit by silently and continue to allow this to happen. If anyone has any suggestions or advice on getting started in advocacy, I'm all ears! In the meantime I'm researching my options and will continue telling my story in hopes that it may spread awareness on the unbelievably blatant lack of justice available to victims of CSA.
At leas you had the guts to say something. That was big. You can't help what other people do or the justice system. You can only control what you do. You should be so proud of yourself
@@dianecelento4974 Thank you, I'm definitely proud of myself, and not just for telling on him. I think I'm most proud of finally getting to a place where I no longer feel any shame or embarrassment when telling my story. I struggled with those feelings for a very long time; I think we all do to some extent. But those feelings don't belong to me, they belong to him. He should feel ashamed. He should feel embarrassed. I refuse to carry his burden any longer. The journey from victim to survivor is a long one. It took so much hard work and self-love to get here, and I'm incredibly proud of that.
@M B Thank you so much, truly that's a very generous thing to say, but I'm no more kindly or brave than anyone else would be in the same situation. I find that this is a very universal experience among CSA survivors. We know that we can't undo what's been done to us, but we can try to make it so that it doesn't happen to the next girl. That's probably the driving force behind most survivors desire to come clean, the fear that our silence could allow for another to suffer our same fate. I truly hope the same. That eventually the people in power will truly listen and make the necessary changes to protect the vulnerable among us, and provide true justice to those who seek it. I won't be silent until we all get the justice and protection that we all deserve. Your love and support is deeply appreciated! Keep reaching out to survivors and supporting us! We need you more than you know ♡
@ Lilac me too. I remembered in high school I had my drama teacher say to me that I had Star potential. I had the love of being on stage and performing to the crowds. I even start planning a career to be an actress in Hollywood however I am so thankful that I decided work with kids instead as a teacher.
A child's job is to go to school, play and grow. NOT work a full time job for their families. I will never understand parents making their kids their only income.
yeah, I definitely think that she's done some questionable stuff that made me go "girl... wtf??" (e.g. the onlyfans debacle). however, I notice that a lot of the stuff people give shit her for, were stuff that they'd defend other former child stars who are accused of being "crazy unhinged trainwrecks" over, so it confuses me. so like???
@@yanathepotato5705 yeah, she’s definitely not perfect and kinda ruined onlyfans for SWers, but people attack her for “ruining the perfect disney image.” the men that were child stars in disney/nick/etc don’t get news coverage whatsoever, it’s truly a double standard
This is exactly like Jeanette McCurdy’s beginnings as a child star. The only reason she was involved with Nickelodeon was so she could be the financial brace for her family that was very poor and needed the money.
I thought the same! There are a lot of parallels between Jeanette/Bella and Ariana/Zendaya. Ariana and Zendaya's families did not push them to act and were very involved in their careers. I remember Ariana saying her mom would get roles in the musicals she was in as a kid because she refused to leave Ariana alone with a bunch of adults.
Am I the only one who thinks Zendaya and Jennette are better than Bella and Ariana (and that Underdogs, the American/Weinstein-ized version of Metegol that they both starred in as the same character Laura, for obvious reasons? Like, I can’t be the only one who thinks Harvey Weinstein raped Ariana and Bella with his “Because they have thick thighs and attractive feminine faces” excuse! But the only good thing you can say about him is that he’s now in jail, and that’s how we lost a monster! Yay!).
Intro Duction sucks for defending Hollywood (re: Harvey Weinstein, Disney since the Coronavirus Era of Disney was close to its start and Nickelodeon Movies).
It's not Stolkholm syndrome, it's more so grooming. I acknowledge that's what she's labeling it in that interview, but if you actually look at the history of Stolkholm syndrome, it's different. Again, she was a child, she was abused.
@@veronikas.8831 I’m not making less of her claims, I’m correcting them. If we continue to misuse terms, in time they lose their meaning and depth. Look up the history of Stockholm Syndrome and compare it to what Bella has revealed about her abuse and trauma. Again, I’m not victim shaming nor telling her she’s wrong. But what she went through was worse and should be acknowledged as such. She was groomed and abused by someone she and her family trusted when she was a *child*.
I know someone that had Stockholm syndrome. She was 16 or 17 and her ex bf was 18 or 19. He didn't let her go home and kept her dependent on drugs. She was with him for 2 years after that and her therapist told her she had it. I also know people that were groomed. Guys started talking to them at a young age and tried to relate to them on some level or "mentor" them and once they gain their trust whether they're 18 or not, they used that to their advantage and got creepy. Two different things. This definitely sounds more like grooming. Building a trust and then taking advantage of her
Here's the problem: many children don't recognize when they are being sexually abused. It's genuinely human to enjoy the attention of others. They don't know when certain affections and advances are wrong since they have no metric to compare them with. They just think that it's normal until they get old enough to realize otherwise -- then it might be too late and they feel an overwhelming sense of guilt as if it's their fault rather than the abuser's fault. That kind of emotional strain can last a lifetime and explains a lot about certain celebrity melt-downs.
Yeah it's painful, it's so damn painful. And celebrities are shoved into silence if their abusers also work/worked in the industry. That certainly isn't going to help.
Yes exactly. Kids are the innocence. They don’t know bad people unless you teach them. And even if you do teach and talk to them about it they may not know how to react.
A few years ago i was kinda scared of her public presence but it seems her social and addressing it directly might’ve took a weight off her. She seems more in control than when her and that disney/marvel dude she used to date broke up.
@@howdypartna But she was already abused for 3 years BEFORE her father’s death. And both of her parents allowed this man to live with them. It’s hard to believe that they never knew what was going on.
Ok.. but still how are we supposed to hold a dead guy accountable? Like u sound dumb he’s fucking dead we literally can’t. The mother should be though for letting this man in the house.
This is so sad and it explains a lot of things for me. She's still so young and I hope she's able to move forward with her life and be as happy as possible
It really makes me upset that Bella was told by her mother that she was put to work as a baby so her family wouldn't be homeless. so Bella could work but her mother couldn't? and if her mother couldn't work, why didn't they opt for public assistance/welfare? hollywood was just the ONLY option? her mother wanted fame and used her daughter to get it. period.
This was very sad to hear. You should talk about Bug Hall who played alfalfa in the little rascals. He posted on his channel about all the horrific abuse he went through on set and on other movies.
Wow I’ve never heard of this. The amount of times I’ve watched the movie growing up... Upsetting to know what goes on behind the scenes in what are supposed to be lighthearted movies.
I didn’t know either until he made a video about it a couple of months back. I can’t watch the little rascals the same or the big green. Which were one of my favorite childhood movies. I’ve tried posting the link to his video but RUclips automatically deletes it. 😒 just go straight to his channel and you can watch it.
Bella isn’t wrong for feeling like her body was all she had to offer. I went through the same thing. I was groomed to believe it was normal and that I was a good girl for keeping the secret. And when I was (5-14)14 and realized it was wrong it was like everyone turned against me for speaking up. My own father testified against me and he allowed it. I’m proud of her for making a stand. I have Stockholm syndrome as well. I also have a pet name given to me by my offender. :( I’m 32 and just now realized I have a serious sexual disorder bc I’m desensitized. And didn’t know for many years that I could say no. I was afraid to bc when I did say no it was taken from me anyways. Everyone around me saw and did nothing as well. You’re a bad ass bella. Thank you so much for covering this stuff. Also. Once a survivor always a survivor. I’ve found that most men these days are attracted to women who have been abused and they take advantage of that.
I'm so sorry! Wishing you light and healing. We truly have monsters walking amongst us, disguised as respectable people; the thought of it alone makes me sick, so I can only imagine! Sharing your story is brave, thank you!
This makes me so grateful to have my normal boring life and to think I wanted to be on Disney when I was a little girl... thank God that never happened.
I feel this comment so much! My sister and I almost went to an audition for Disney because we won some radio contest. My dad decided we weren’t allowed to go in the end, thank god we never even went especially after other videos Sloan had done showing that auditioning for Nickelodeon and such could even heed SH
Same honestly, I so mad because there was a Disney Channel audition thing where I lived when I was 15 or 16 but I couldn't go because my Dad had to work. I'm 23 now and after hearing Bellas story I'm so grateful. That shift my Dad had to be on that day may have saved me from years of trauma.
So true, I can't even look at the movies I grew up on now, except for the old-school cartoons. And I'd definitely not let my children watch the shows I used to, they create unrealistic expectations.
I always felt like there was something about Bella that didn’t sit right. She seemed like such a sweet girl and her acting out was just a way for her to take out her emotions. The same goes for other Hollywood child stars, we see them doing drugs acting out and later we find out all the abuse they went through and we can sympathize with them.
That’s so sad, I would have never guessed. It’s really interesting how the physiology of a women’s mind works when it comes to sexual abuse. I myself was sexually abused and didn’t have a strong father figure. I constantly sought validation from men and was over sexual in my life and interactions with men. I’m better now, working hard with a therapist.
I'm so sorry Giselle. I cannot imagine what you've endured. I'm sorry you had to go through that. I wish you nothing but the best and Blessings Galore!!! God Bless you and keep you safe ALWAYS!
You humanize so many people who have been dehumanized by the media. You have no idea how precious you are Sloan. You are that person everyone wants to have their back. You are super duper appreciated.
@@msteele674 my dad had cable and visited him on the weekend but I only watch nick and cartoon network... So yea I had Netflix in 2015... Their content was better back then
I didn't watch Disney growing either, I started at 12 when I saw Shake it Up for the first time, then Austin and Ally, my current favorite show. But to find out someone my age, who I look up to went through such trauma breaks my heart
I've never been a fan of Bella Thorne (her phantom song slaps, tho) but ever since I heard of this happening to her, I've always felt for her. Unfortunately, I relate in a lot of ways so I can understand her hypersexual ways because I've always said, and as someone who has survived this myself, you either go the hypersexual route, or you completely clam up/are a bit more reserved when it comes to that. With the people I've talked to that have gone through the same thing, it's almost like there isn't a middle balance. It's like you're trying to take back your agency, or retain it.
Facts. Tbh I’ve gone through both phases because sadly like in most cases it happened more than once with more than one person. No one talks about the rate of it to happen again and it’s so 😭😭😭🥺
It is so important to have chats with your children about "good touches" and "bad touches". My parents always had these conversations with my brother and I. They always told us to come to them if someone is doing something like that. So sad that there are children who go though that abuse and they feel like they can't tell their parents and get unconditional support from them.
I got that talk as both my parents were victims of SA. I still ended up as a victim and didn’t tell them. I was threatened and was scared for them. It doesn’t always work :(
Nobody wants to hear the stuff she's talking about. The akward silence after she goes in about how paparazzi was nowhere near as hard... I honestly don't know who she is, I didn't watch her stuff, but the bravery and just f*cking fighting. Still fighting, I now have respect for her despite not knowing her film or modeling career.
This explains so much about her hypersexuality. I never watched her shows or knew anything about her but even the snippets I heard were mostly about her being naked in some sort of context.
I blame the parents they're job is to protect and love they're children instead they sacrifice these kids to the industry for they're own selfish greedy needs vile 🤬🤬
I remember her going through her "rebellious" phase and she would get so much hate online I had no idea how dark her childhood was just goes to show that we never know what someone is going through so we should all just be kind to one another life is hard enough ❤
It’s the guy her family took in and “raised as their own”. She’s never come out and blatantly said it but it makes sense. His name is Stephan Muskus. And her mother takes no responsibility of course 🙄 and says she had no idea and that Dani must’ve known because they always slept in the same room.
I attacked Stephan Muskus on Twitter and you can't imagine how he shows his guilt with his behavior.Even a friend of his wrote to me on Instagram trying to dissuade me that it wasn't him.
@@brambara13 I think that if we respect Bella's choice to wait before publicly accusing him, it'll be better for her. She has the chance to press charges against him, and it'll work in her favour if we don't get involved just yet. I very much hope that she does. She might not be ready just yet to deal with the enormous stress of police interviews and court proceedings. We can pray for her and gently support her on social media.💗
Can we just acknowledge SL04N for a quick second. Every single topic that he covers he told with such empathy and compassion that is completely nonexistent on things like mainstream news channels. Everytime something bad happens, he takes a brief minute to put himself/us in their shoes to really create a sense of compassion. Thank you for taking that moment to humanize celebrities as people again, they've gone though so much. 💖💖💖
Sloan has such a charming, bright energy - I love watching his celebrity deep dives due to his unusually compassionate, empathetic take that you don't normally see in these kinds of Hollywood stories. Truly a breath of fresh air.
Why brave? No shade or anything.. it’s just why would courage be needed to talk about the things he talks about? It’s important and SHOULD be talked about Is it because RUclips can shadow ban him?
@@Shady.K1lls because 99% of people don't talk about this at all, and if they do they often get backlash from incels or Karens or other kinds of emotionally crippled POS'.
@@Mia199603 oh okay.. well I didn’t know because I follow a couple people and they do talk about these things. That’s why I was unaware and thought maybe it was because of RUclips and how they censor basically everything because if not people get demonetized or something
My daughter referred me to your show and I have to say, "You have a beautiful soul". Your genuine empathetic and humble personality is refreshing to see. These enlightening, controversial and emotional topics are hard to watch BUT NECESSARY for the world to be more accepting and aware of each other. Thankyou for shining brightness into the world and I pray for Bella's healing & self-love journey AMEN xxx
For any victims of SA especially by a family member i am so sorry 😞 your experience is valid and it was not your fault. It’s terrible how often the other family members won’t believe the victim and even defend the abuser
I was touched 1 time by my step-uncle at about 8 yrs old. I cannot imagine how a little child handles on going violation. To this day when I see my step uncle I feel like a 8 yr old child again who is frozen. I’m 45 yrs old! So proud of Bella for her honesty. I know for a fact it will help a child out there.
I was date raped and I also gave my dad cpr as he died and I struggled with addiction for so long and so much more. I didn't wanna feel all the bad things in my life and I literally lost everything. Eventually I got tired of living that way and I didn't wanna be a victim anymore. We all go through bad things. Some worse than others.. but when I wallowed in my misery my life was terrible. It felt like nothing but bad things happened. When I started finding the good in things and got off drugs it made me wanna be a kind person (of course I lose my temper sometimes. Mainly on call centers 😂) it made me realize that life is short and I can choose to be the victor of all the terrible things I've OVERCOME! I pray for anyone suffering! I pray that you take victory over anything terrible in your life! And if you don't believe. I send positive, kind, loving and healing vibes 💚
God bless you Addie. If you could, please pray for my neighbor Sandy. She just lost her husband this morning. Undiagnosed congestive heart failure. . I would greatly appreciate it..
My friend Hunter was Dating Dani while Bella was filming Shake it up and you are definitely right about Stephan. I have hung out with the Thornes at their home in woodland hills numerous times and Stephan always gave me a bad vibe and at one point I was under the impression that Stephan was hooking up with Tamara which I thought was bizarre due to the age gap. Bella is and was such an angel I wish I knew what she was going through back then. I feel so guilty that I didn't know enough to protect her! I am so proud of Bella and everything that she has accomplished. Such a Brave Warrior
It's so sad that so many young girls go through these types of things. I personally have been abused by someone really close and related to me. I never told my parents or anyone and I still act like I don't remember what happened. I always thought that it was my fault and that I'm sick for doing something which I was clearly manipulated to do to that person. Actually today was the day when a really close friend of mine actually reached out to me and shared that she's been going through a similar experience and I actually for the first time in my life, actually told anyone that I've been through that. I couldn't actually tell who was the person doing that to me and my friend didn't say anything either. So I can understand why Bella doesn't share who hurt her like this. After sharing this secret I've been keeping for years and years with my friend, I actually feel like I'm finally not a freak and I'm not alone. I am still ashamed and I still feel guilty and I haven't even told my therapist about it but I'm starting to see that I've been manipulated and it is not my fault. If anyone reading this comment has been or is going through something similar and keeps it a secret, I really advice you to share with someone. You are not alone. We see you. We hear you.
It's absolutely not your fault, and it was brave of you to share this even in the comments. I hope you become comfortable enough to work through what happened with your therapist. It was never your fault, never okay, you were never responsible for any of what happened.
I wanna leave this comment here, because I replied to somebody else saying something like "oh, poor Bella, so sad, that this happened to her.. I still condone her behaviour, but now I understand why she is acting like she is.." etc.. And when I replied "who cares what you condone" several people started attacking me for that. The original comment got deleted after I explained where I was coming from, but I wanna leave what I wrote anyways, cause it might change somebodys perspective or make somebody feel heard. This is what I wrote.. I am a survivor myself. And I have worked for many years with survivors. And one of the most hurtful aspects of speaking out about the abuse, is the way others judge and revictimize survivors. There are those, who outright accuse them of lying or saying they deserved it. And then there are those, who seem supportive, but bring everything we do back to the abuse. What is this about? That she is sleeping around or sexually provocative? But that's okay. She can be that without having been abused. And explaining her open display of her sexuality as a consequence of her being victimized is stripping her away from selfdetermination and victimizing her all over again. It's like saying "oh, now I understand why you are broken." Because women, who are okay with their own sexuality have to be broken. If men act like this, nobody would question, if they have been abused. My comment wasn't about Bella. It's about every survivor, that has to deal with these kind of judgements every day. And I don't have to be emotionally invested to share my opinion.
I agree with you and I’m very sorry. Instantly when people say stuff like this I think how condescending it sounds and as u said treating them more as victims than survivors
@@megl1884 yeah.. I'm grateful the years of being triggered by such people are behind me. I hope everybody finds peace within, cause unfortunately we can't rely on them changing.
I feel so sad for the hate Bella has gotten, and being compared to Zendaya. They are both great actresses and stars. You never know what someone is going through and I think a lot of people need to remember that when looking into a celebrity’s life.
Ikr, it's horrible, they were forced to compete by Disney but became best friends despite that, but people still won't stop comparing them constantly, it's so stupid and immature, who cares who's "better" or "prettier" or "more talented", they are both amazingly talented beautiful young women, just let them be their own unique selves
I totally understand her, i was molested by a boy who had class with me, this happed in front of everyone who as around, but when i asked for help to the vice director (a women) the apology was my clothes, "your body attracted him". People need to figured out, that sexual abuse or any type of abuse, happens really close of them, happens in any place, any situation. Unfortunately people choose to runaway of the situation, runaway of the reality of a sexual abuse that was committed by someone that you judge as a good person. Like Bella, i still have nightmares, all my body shakes, i just want to throw up the pain that him caused me, cause he didn't just hurt my body, he hurt my soul. when i remember him faces or him name, the feeling of being used and the feeling that nobody will never loved me genuinely comeback. Take care of the ones who are around you, predators are in everywhere.
i always felt uncomfy when people would cyberbully her and negatively compare her to zendaya, esp. when they made fun of her for that dyslexia video :(
i'm so happy people like bella are open with their trauma, it's uncomfortable but bringing awareness is so important for issues to stop and also so others don't feel alone.💓
That’s what I’m doing for healthcare workers. I was injured on duty and was harassed and forced to resign. There are so many stories if you look #silentnomore. I was sucker punched in the back of the head with no correct medical treatment.
I understand her not mentioning who it is because it’ll be like reliving it we don’t need to know who it is she just needs to heal I feel so bad for her childhood I feel like I understand her more her father died when she was young and she had to be the breadwinner hopefully she continues to act and gets the help she needs
As much as I don't like her as a person, I respect her a lot for speaking out about her experiences. No one deserves to suffer like that, especially not in silence. And thank you for always handling the subjects of your videos with such sensitivity and care.
pleasee talk about Ricky Garcia and how he was sexually abused by his manager for years. He was on a Disney show " Best Friends Whenever ". Not a lot of people talk abt it since the show was cancelled after 2 seasons
I never knew her story with SA and my heart breaks for her. I understand the pain of being assaulted by someone in your own home and the messed up stuff it does with your head.
Man... I had no idea she had been through so much. People don’t want to acknowledge how many people go through things like this, and that the majority of the time the perpetrator is known to the victim or within the family, not the stranger in a dark alley like people want to think, because it’s unthinkingable that a person’s own family member can do that.
Sloan, thank you for your amazing job. I really appreciate how you always talk with respect about everything. You deserve the best! I hope you are taking care and wish you well.
This is heartbreaking to hear about this from another person growing up being abused. It reminds me of mine and my cousins childhoods actually. Knowing a family member that you have to be around would do things to you and you are too young to understand it's not right. It's sick and they are vile to hurt young children. I'm 42 years old and have just started trauma therapy because quite a lot of these experiences I blocked from my mind as a child. I still had the psychological and physical scars from it but not the memories until now. My cousins even more so and they were so much younger. And we're just everyday people not in the spotlight like a lot of these young girls and boys. My heart goes out to her and all those affected by abuse, of any kind. 😔
I have been writing poetry about my life and my experiences and my trauma since I was 12 years old, I'm now 30, and it was the only way I got to let it out so I completely understand this. It was the only way that I could truly tell anyone what I went through/was going through. Poetry gave me the courage to speak out. I'm so glad Bella used her Fame and her book to speak out and I'm glad she is no longer ashamed
Autumn. Whoever you are and whenever, or if u see this I wanted to tell you, the gift you gave Sloan for his dog was so touching and beautiful. You have a beautiful soul. My grandmother told me many stories when she was still with us, regarding angels among us. I believe she was speaking about those like you. Side note: mad props to Bella for lifting the weight of the world from her shoulders. I too can relate. Much love to Autumn, Sloan and Bella for all being beautiful people on the inside as well as out. 💋💋 from Alaska
My heart just breaks bc I see a lot of little girls on Tiktok sexualizing them selves and they get hated on, but now, I'm starting to see that people dont just wake up and decide to do these things.
Never felt so heard than through her. Experienced being m****ed from the age of 5-14 by someone in my family. I didn’t realize it was wrong growing up and when you finally realize it, you just feel so lost. Bella is so brave. Hopefully I can find the courage to tell my story to my family instead of the RUclips comments. Thanks to anyone reading and I hope everyone is safe.
I never knew this about Bella and always assumed she was “wild” but I’m also a survivor and never spoke out until my mid 20’s but growing up I was always so angry! Bella spoke about being angry and just like her I was considered a “wild” child by my parents but I remember being so mad with the world during my teen years and I didn’t start a process of healing until I finally spoke out about it. This video made me cry…. I empathize with Bella and you never truly heal because it’s something so traumatic that robs you of having a happy childhood and brings on so many trust issues later in life but I’m sending her and anyone else who has been through something like this lots of love and positive vibes.♥️
This is so incredibly sad. I hope she finds her peace and happiness as an adult. It’s incredible as even a tiny little baby, she looks exactly the same. I’m glad for her that bitterness didn’t take over and ruin her life and her beauty. I hope that makes sense. So many people suffering with trauma never heal and we turn to drugs and just hard life choices sucks out souls out. God bless her. I hope she gets help and happiness.
As someone who was ashamed about my childhood s/a, I’m so thankful for her to show me that I’m not alone and it’s okay to talk about it. Say what you want about her, but she is so brave
I'm ngl I didn't even realize she was on Disney, I think it was around the time I grew out of most Disney shows so I probably didn't see her Either way it's terrible what she went through and what parents and adults keep putting these kids through! Definitely a lot of things I didn't know in this video, keep up the good work
she’s incredibly brave and strong for bringing this to light. I was SA by family growing up, and I didn’t say a word until I was 15. I was young and had no idea what was going on until I was much older. Her mom reminded me of how my mom reacted - she made it about her.
I have noticed that a lot ex Disney stars who change there persona we think are rebellious but really they been through s*** like r@pe or sa which is very wrong and sad and of course the people they work for don’t care and they make you look all goody good I hope other ex Disney members come out and any child entertainment industry but I know it’s difficult for them to come and say this been happening to me for a very long time I congratulate Bella for telling the world about what happened to her
I didn’t watch Shake it up. Shake it up came on when I got older and stopped watch Disney. Plus all my childhood shows were ending at the time. I use to wish I was a Disney actress so I can be like Raven Symone until I found out what really was going on in Disney and Nickelodeon.
I think it's also worth noting that Bella having an OF doesn't invalidate her abuse story at all. I see victims of SA being stripped off their sexuality way too often. She said it herself that she sees her body as something she has to offer to receive affection, and somehow she gets backlash for being a sexual being - every person has their sexuality, whether they're ace or a child or an elderly person. In her case, when she was already robbed of her childhood, some people want to take away her right to cherishing her body too. Like... sex is a need just like feeling loved or eating. Make it make sense Sloan because I can't.
I don't think it made it 'much harder' for swers to make money. It's just a fee cap, not actually that big of a deal imo. You can still make money, you just can't make as much off a single post anymore.
Wow, this is so heartbreaking. As someone that was also sexually abused for years as a child, I can relate to her. Not the being a child star part, obviously. But I know what it's like to feel unsafe in your home at night. People told me not to trust strangers, but the person hurting me lived in my house!
Their lives are so public and it leads people to assume they know what’s going on. I’m so glad she (and you, of course, Sloan☺️) is talking about it, bringing attention to this, for those of us without a platform.
Big SECRETS eat you inside🥺 When a secret it's too heavy to carry, no wonder it destroys you. I hope she will be helped to work on that, I don't know if it was ever done properly😐
Wow I never knew any of this about Bella. My heart goes out to her, she is so brave for sharing her story and I’m sure it’s helped many out there who have experienced the same thing.
I have a similar story to hers, I’ve always liked her but I definitely judged her actions recently but now I completely understand her. When she said it made her and changed her it really does. It basically changes everything about your life. When your a kid they groom you , into accepting it... as an adult I just started to understand that because I kept blaming myself...
*Stockholm Syndrome can develop in any victim of ANY abuse where a power dynamic is clearly present* It’s a coping mechanism. a Survival technique, if you will. *Stockholm Syndrome is described as ANY relationship where a victim has developed a strong, positive, lowkey loyal af, bond with their abuser.* like ... in order to survive and/or cope. here’s a list of SOME (not all) situations where Stockholm Syndrome could develop: *firstly, victims of domestic violence.* there’s so much on THAT alone that needs to be researched & taken seriously to help combat “victim blaming” & shaming those abused into thinking it’s their fault for loving their abusive partner, making excuses for the abuse, refusing help, & not leaving. like, yeah ... that’s called Stockholm Syndrome. & it’s not their fault at all. ... anywho, here’s the rest of the list of only some situations where Stockholm Syndrome develops that i got off the internet: Some of the populations affected with this condition include *concentration camp prisoners, prisoners of war, abused children, incest survivors, victims of domestic violence, cult members, and people in toxic work or church environments.* IT’S NOT JUST FOR VICTIMS BEING HELD HOSTAGE. PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT.
Character? She not a character, she's a person. I was, is, and always will be a fan of her. If you're a fan of her when she was on Disney, you were never a fan of her, you were a fan of Cece Jones, who she was forced to act like constantly. Now she's finally being herself, but you don't like her anymore, you want "Disney Bella", but that was never her, you were never a fan Bella Thorne
@@bellaknightR597 I meant character as in her morals and behavior babe. Never was a fan of her on Disney or whatever but I’m acknowledging her trauma and long terms effects it caused.
@@stacebunzz4350 oh ok I'm dumb, and I shouldn't have assumed anything it's just I see people saying they were a fan of on Disney but not anymore and it's frustrating, I apologize for putting you in crossfire on that, I just had get it off my chest, I'm sorry
@@bellaknightR597 you are NOT dumb. And I understand where you’re coming from about people judging her without letting her break out of the “Disney star” aspect. 100% agree with you!
@@stacebunzz4350 aww thanks 😊. And I agree, it's why Disney stars go to such lengths to distance themselves from their Disney Image, and people call them crazy. Sometimes it's easier like Ross Lynch losing his by playing Jeffery Dahmer but it's harder for others, who struggle to or even fail to get work after leaving Disney because they aren't taken seriously as actors, it's sucks
I truly love that you are always so kind and respectful of every individual you create content on, I just hate Bella Thorne. I again appreciate that you look at everything from so many angles and don’t just have a one sided take on people but idk I just needed to write this out I guess. I’m a cb camgirl and have many many friends on of and lots of them were really financially fucked over by Bella’s stunt on the platform. I personally know someone who was a part of a group chat with bella and her mother for of promotions and such and just the things that I’ve heard. I just don’t want what she did to the online sw community to slip under the rug. I want her to continue to be associated with that terrible action because she’s still on the platform. Pretty much the whole entire internet sw community hates her and feels as if she made us a joke and used us for a quick profit. People don’t stand up for sw’s very much and I think a lot of people are easily willing to forget that she even made an of let alone caused massive ripple effects throughout the entire community
It’s quite sad to see the contrast with her and Zendaya - you can tell who has parents that probably cared and protected them. I hope Bella will be okay, and I’m glad we have so much more mental heath awareness now.
Her dad cared but he unfortunately died when she was young
Exactly. The mom clearly didnt.
This is why I say having good parents and guardians ARE A PRIVILEGE because they help people form good habits and coping mechanisms whist bad parents and guardians enable people to form bad habits and coping mechanisms. Assault & abuse sticks with people their whole lives and people have to fight tooth and nail just to get themselves out of negative patterns. 🙁
@@cutienerdgirl mom mom l I’m ppklm m m
@@DoraWinifred Please stop, girly. Nobody ever said it wasn't possible for kids with good parents to be abused but if you really think kids with good parents aren't less at risk than kids with bad parents, you are delusional.
People don't realize that most of SA happens in the victims' own houses. All my life I've only been told to be scared of strangers but most of the time(not always), the victim's ab*sers are who they KNOW. The world we live in is crazy
It’s very true been there before
It’s always someone who is closest to you or always in the same house
It could even be a very close family friend
I could be wrong, but I thought majority of the abuzers were people they know but not typically a family member?
100%
Thats true. My grandfather useed to touch me and my mom couldn’t (or wouldnt 🤷🏽♀️) even fight for me
Apparently the whole “stranger danger” thing was made up despite knowing it’s likely to be a family member or family friend. They didn’t want to scare people off from the classic, American dream of a perfect family life.
I can’t believe her mother’s response 😒 shows how selfish she is. “I’M still processing it I’M seeing a therapist,” it’s not about you, lady.
Narcissistic!
@@SmartStart24 seriously 😑 it’s like it also explains how she didn’t know or didn’t care she was too involved in herself. Ugh her poor little girl 😞🤦🏻♀️
If you found out your child was being harmed on a near daily basis under your own roof, the guilt, the shock, the anger, and the instinctual need to protect your child on top of knowing you failed would be a LOT to handle.
We dont know if she is prone to any other mental disorders.
Add that on top of the fact that her mother found out on social media after who knows how many other people saw it. She wasnt confided in. That is super traumatic.
So when you have the entirety of the internet and then some cursing you out and blaming you for not protecting your child from these monsters for years on top of needing said child to be the breadwinner... yeah.
"I'm still processing/seeing a therapist" is a perfectly valid non-narcissistic response.
A narcissistic response would be writing an entire essay on how devastated they were and their life story as this was happening, making their childs pain all about them.
Using "I'm" twice in a tweet doesnt make it all about them.
@@dakotacollins3818 she should’ve known...the fact that she had “no idea” seems ridiculous to me especially since they lived in a trailer not a large home where things could go on that you would miss. she had to have known and just didn’t do anything about it.
I feel like she knew ... how would you not notice ... for years
everyone makes fun of her dyslexia not knowing speech impediments sometimes come from abuse as a child
I know… ppl ask me is English my second language, I hate that comment because I used to stutter a lot n kids made fun of me 🙁Have good day
YEP more people need to know this
Do speech impediments come hand and hand with dyslexia?
@Reyna Arawan I think she meant lisp or stuttering
Yep! Yep! Yep!!!!
I used to get so mad at my dad for not letting me go into acting when I was younger, now I thank him everyday that he didn’t. The film industry is so awful to children
@@deniseb.4656 yeah i can already tell you’d be manipulated easily. Just by you saying you would sell your soul.
@@deniseb.4656 girl what did you gain from this entire monologue.
@@deniseb.4656 I’m sorry but you don’t look like you should be on the screen anyways
Same for me. I used to beg my mom to let me be on Disney! So glad she never did
@@deniseb.4656 I never read a comment that was this pathetic.
I do not respect parents who make their kids the bread winner .
That alone is abuse in my opinion.
You nailed it!
Very true. But I imagine there’s a lot of work the parents have to do to get these kids in any door. Kids usually can’t reach doorknobs that high on their own. Good stage parents are so few and far between unfortunately.
@@kylemiller2414 No, the business and the parents are to blame. Don't act like they were good people.
Like im gon just sit here at home and let my child take care of my bills smfh
I can’t believe these innocent children grow up in the most toxic and scary environment at Hollywood! Like my child hood movies and shows are messed up i don’t even see them the same anymore
I believe that stage parents or greedy parents in general aren't good parents. Dysfunctional families really.
@@deniseb.4656 I totally agree with you it’s just so sad. Like putting these little children on the spotlight at a young age because parents want money
It is not just Hollywood it is parents that are abusing their children.
We just found 215 bodies of children in a mass grave in Canada.
I feel you! It’s so crazy to know all the people we grew up watching went through way more, then we could ever imagine! & I feel the same about the shows, and movies! Smh
As a CSA survivor myself, I relate so heavily to Bella's story. My abuser was my stepfather, and it also began before I was old enough to form memory and lasted until my early teens. The only reason I was able to get the courage to tell someone about the abuse was because my mother got pregnant again and we found out it was a baby girl. I couldn't protect or stand up for myself, but I wasn't going to sit by and let him hurt my baby sister. She truly saved me. Without her, I'm honestly not sure if I ever would've told anyone.
I relate so much to Bella when she says that it changed her as a person. I've often felt like he killed the girl that I was meant to be, that the life I was meant to live was stolen from me. And the worst part of it all is that after over a decade of suffering at this monster's hands, he only spent 4 months in prison. He was released early for "good behavior". It absolutely crushes me, and blows my mind. It feels like I was victimized a second time by our justice system. Of course he behaved in prison, there are no children in there!!! Our broken system allows for 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th time offenders to exist. It helps to create them by not punishing these crimes as severely as they deserve.
He's now out and happily remarried to a woman with young granddaughters. The state forced my mother to give him visitation with my baby sister because "There's no evidence to suggest he'd abuse his biological child". He's back to having full access to minor children, and nobody seems to care but me. It sickens and disgusts me. It hurts. I worry for those girls every single day of my life. It hurts to know that I did everything I could to protect others from suffering at his hands, and it wasn't enough, and nothing ever will be.
There is no justice in our justice system.
@@tamaraj4745 Thank you, I appreciate your understanding and kindness ♡
Unfortunately what was done to me can never be undone. The important part now is to take every opportunity to speak out and make people understand that the justice system in the US isn't taking these crimes seriously, and in not doing so, allowing additional children to be victimized by these offenders when they could prevent it.
I'm at the point in my healing journey now where it's becoming increasingly important to look for way to get into advocating for stricter sentencing for sexual crimes against minors. I can't sit by silently and continue to allow this to happen.
If anyone has any suggestions or advice on getting started in advocacy, I'm all ears! In the meantime I'm researching my options and will continue telling my story in hopes that it may spread awareness on the unbelievably blatant lack of justice available to victims of CSA.
At leas you had the guts to say something. That was big. You can't help what other people do or the justice system. You can only control what you do. You should be so proud of yourself
@@dianecelento4974 Thank you, I'm definitely proud of myself, and not just for telling on him. I think I'm most proud of finally getting to a place where I no longer feel any shame or embarrassment when telling my story. I struggled with those feelings for a very long time; I think we all do to some extent. But those feelings don't belong to me, they belong to him. He should feel ashamed. He should feel embarrassed. I refuse to carry his burden any longer.
The journey from victim to survivor is a long one. It took so much hard work and self-love to get here, and I'm incredibly proud of that.
@M B Thank you so much, truly that's a very generous thing to say, but I'm no more kindly or brave than anyone else would be in the same situation. I find that this is a very universal experience among CSA survivors. We know that we can't undo what's been done to us, but we can try to make it so that it doesn't happen to the next girl. That's probably the driving force behind most survivors desire to come clean, the fear that our silence could allow for another to suffer our same fate.
I truly hope the same. That eventually the people in power will truly listen and make the necessary changes to protect the vulnerable among us, and provide true justice to those who seek it. I won't be silent until we all get the justice and protection that we all deserve.
Your love and support is deeply appreciated! Keep reaching out to survivors and supporting us! We need you more than you know ♡
What’s his addy? I just wanna talk🥰🔪 💕
The fact that my dream was to be an actress when i was a little girl…yikes 😧
i wanted to be a model, also bad choice
@@theotherotter You did it??
Omg same I wanted to be an actress so badly since I was young but now hearing about all this stuff... eeek
@ Lilac me too. I remembered in high school I had my drama teacher say to me that I had Star potential. I had the love of being on stage and performing to the crowds. I even start planning a career to be an actress in Hollywood however I am so thankful that I decided work with kids instead as a teacher.
@@marl3nb984 holy shit. do you realise how close you were, starting to plan a career?? wow.
A child's job is to go to school, play and grow. NOT work a full time job for their families. I will never understand parents making their kids their only income.
Yeah kind of like Danielle Cohn. How her mother exploits her is the most disgusting things I've seen in a while.
The way everyone exploited her makes it clear that everyone only cares about how much money she can make them.
16:22 wish the guy on the side wouldn't glare ND at least pretend to look away from time to time..
Well then you've never been dirt poor.
@@dodadeb8954 if they’re dirt poor then the parents should get the job. not the kid. lmao
Can people stop calling her “crazy” now?? like goddamn she’s been through so much and deserves to control her life and body the way she wants.
exactly, people call her crazy but yet they don't even know what she's been through. it's terrible honestly 🤧.
NOBODY has any business calling this courageous young lady crazy. She has giant brass balls, and God bless her for it.
You can be crazy and also go through shit. What the hell do you think drives them crazy?
yeah, I definitely think that she's done some questionable stuff that made me go "girl... wtf??" (e.g. the onlyfans debacle). however, I notice that a lot of the stuff people give shit her for, were stuff that they'd defend other former child stars who are accused of being "crazy unhinged trainwrecks" over, so it confuses me. so like???
@@yanathepotato5705 yeah, she’s definitely not perfect and kinda ruined onlyfans for SWers, but people attack her for “ruining the perfect disney image.” the men that were child stars in disney/nick/etc don’t get news coverage whatsoever, it’s truly a double standard
This is exactly like Jeanette McCurdy’s beginnings as a child star. The only reason she was involved with Nickelodeon was so she could be the financial brace for her family that was very poor and needed the money.
I thought the same! There are a lot of parallels between Jeanette/Bella and Ariana/Zendaya. Ariana and Zendaya's families did not push them to act and were very involved in their careers. I remember Ariana saying her mom would get roles in the musicals she was in as a kid because she refused to leave Ariana alone with a bunch of adults.
Am I the only one who thinks Zendaya and Jennette are better than Bella and Ariana (and that Underdogs, the American/Weinstein-ized version of Metegol that they both starred in as the same character Laura, for obvious reasons? Like, I can’t be the only one who thinks Harvey Weinstein raped Ariana and Bella with his “Because they have thick thighs and attractive feminine faces” excuse! But the only good thing you can say about him is that he’s now in jail, and that’s how we lost a monster! Yay!).
What? What did he have to do w Ariana and Bella..
It was all planned
Intro Duction sucks for defending Hollywood (re: Harvey Weinstein, Disney since the Coronavirus Era of Disney was close to its start and Nickelodeon Movies).
It's not Stolkholm syndrome, it's more so grooming. I acknowledge that's what she's labeling it in that interview, but if you actually look at the history of Stolkholm syndrome, it's different. Again, she was a child, she was abused.
I feel like she was thinking about trauma bonding.
Well you don’t actually 100% know.... only she knows.
Your vocabulary is excellent
@@veronikas.8831 I’m not making less of her claims, I’m correcting them.
If we continue to misuse terms, in time they lose their meaning and depth. Look up the history of Stockholm Syndrome and compare it to what Bella has revealed about her abuse and trauma.
Again, I’m not victim shaming nor telling her she’s wrong. But what she went through was worse and should be acknowledged as such. She was groomed and abused by someone she and her family trusted when she was a *child*.
I know someone that had Stockholm syndrome. She was 16 or 17 and her ex bf was 18 or 19. He didn't let her go home and kept her dependent on drugs. She was with him for 2 years after that and her therapist told her she had it. I also know people that were groomed. Guys started talking to them at a young age and tried to relate to them on some level or "mentor" them and once they gain their trust whether they're 18 or not, they used that to their advantage and got creepy. Two different things. This definitely sounds more like grooming. Building a trust and then taking advantage of her
Here's the problem: many children don't recognize when they are being sexually abused. It's genuinely human to enjoy the attention of others. They don't know when certain affections and advances are wrong since they have no metric to compare them with. They just think that it's normal until they get old enough to realize otherwise -- then it might be too late and they feel an overwhelming sense of guilt as if it's their fault rather than the abuser's fault. That kind of emotional strain can last a lifetime and explains a lot about certain celebrity melt-downs.
This is very true!
Yeah it's painful, it's so damn painful.
And celebrities are shoved into silence if their abusers also work/worked in the industry. That certainly isn't going to help.
Yes, thank you for writing this, so much shame and guilt comes with sexual abuse.
Yes exactly. Kids are the innocence. They don’t know bad people unless you teach them. And even if you do teach and talk to them about it they may not know how to react.
The deep state makes it that way
I’m not a fan of Bella Thorne but I’m very concerned about her. I wouldn’t be surprised if the predator took advantage of her siblings as well.
Fortunately for them but unfortunately for her, a pos predators will single out one kid and only abuse them whilst not paying any mind to the others.
@@nomdeplume2213 yes and unfortunately it helps the victim look more like a liar because the others can say “he never did that to me,” 🤦🏻♀️
@@nomdeplume2213 not in all cases. Sometimes when that kid moves out the move on to the next.
It’s possible that it was her own sibling
A few years ago i was kinda scared of her public presence but it seems her social and addressing it directly might’ve took a weight off her. She seems more in control than when her and that disney/marvel dude she used to date broke up.
Bella should 100% hold her parents accountable, theyre the ones responsible for her!!
@@howdypartna But she was already abused for 3 years BEFORE her father’s death. And both of her parents allowed this man to live with them. It’s hard to believe that they never knew what was going on.
I agree especially with it happening in the home!!
@iriana baez you don't trust no man around your girl kids. Uncles, grandparents and all!
Ok.. but still how are we supposed to hold a dead guy accountable? Like u sound dumb he’s fucking dead we literally can’t. The mother should be though for letting this man in the house.
Unfortunately some people do and it’s sick u can’t trust your uncle or grandparents
This is so sad and it explains a lot of things for me. She's still so young and I hope she's able to move forward with her life and be as happy as possible
It really makes me upset that Bella was told by her mother that she was put to work as a baby so her family wouldn't be homeless. so Bella could work but her mother couldn't? and if her mother couldn't work, why didn't they opt for public assistance/welfare? hollywood was just the ONLY option? her mother wanted fame and used her daughter to get it. period.
This was very sad to hear. You should talk about Bug Hall who played alfalfa in the little rascals. He posted on his channel about all the horrific abuse he went through on set and on other movies.
Yes!
I would love to hear more of his story too
Wow I’ve never heard of this. The amount of times I’ve watched the movie growing up... Upsetting to know what goes on behind the scenes in what are supposed to be lighthearted movies.
My husband and his brother auditioned for that movie when they were little.
I've never heard about his story.v
I didn’t know either until he made a video about it a couple of months back. I can’t watch the little rascals the same or the big green. Which were one of my favorite childhood movies. I’ve tried posting the link to his video but RUclips automatically deletes it. 😒 just go straight to his channel and you can watch it.
Sloan has facial features like a Greek god
He gives me young Joaquin Phoenix vibes 💖
You’re so right... like those sculptures
True I would cast him instantly for a modern Hermes or something
That comment and yr profil pic emoji so funny lmfao
@@Chewyns1 😅 this is my "incognito" profile cuz I dont want people seeing me. Idk why I chose this pic lmao
Bella isn’t wrong for feeling like her body was all she had to offer. I went through the same thing. I was groomed to believe it was normal and that I was a good girl for keeping the secret. And when I was (5-14)14 and realized it was wrong it was like everyone turned against me for speaking up. My own father testified against me and he allowed it. I’m proud of her for making a stand. I have Stockholm syndrome as well. I also have a pet name given to me by my offender. :( I’m 32 and just now realized I have a serious sexual disorder bc I’m desensitized. And didn’t know for many years that I could say no. I was afraid to bc when I did say no it was taken from me anyways. Everyone around me saw and did nothing as well. You’re a bad ass bella. Thank you so much for covering this stuff. Also. Once a survivor always a survivor. I’ve found that most men these days are attracted to women who have been abused and they take advantage of that.
the last sentence is so disgusting
I'm so sorry! Wishing you light and healing. We truly have monsters walking amongst us, disguised as respectable people; the thought of it alone makes me sick, so I can only imagine! Sharing your story is brave, thank you!
HOLD the PARENTS accountable too as a parent you should protect your children at ALL COST!!!!
Hold everyone who let this happen responsible.
(Not Bella obviously)
Yes!! They should of never used her for money and should of never allowed that adult man to live with them.
This makes me so grateful to have my normal boring life and to think I wanted to be on Disney when I was a little girl... thank God that never happened.
I feel this comment so much! My sister and I almost went to an audition for Disney because we won some radio contest. My dad decided we weren’t allowed to go in the end, thank god we never even went especially after other videos Sloan had done showing that auditioning for Nickelodeon and such could even heed SH
Yes same
Same here
Same honestly, I so mad because there was a Disney Channel audition thing where I lived when I was 15 or 16 but I couldn't go because my Dad had to work. I'm 23 now and after hearing Bellas story I'm so grateful. That shift my Dad had to be on that day may have saved me from years of trauma.
So true, I can't even look at the movies I grew up on now, except for the old-school cartoons. And I'd definitely not let my children watch the shows I used to, they create unrealistic expectations.
I always felt like there was something about Bella that didn’t sit right. She seemed like such a sweet girl and her acting out was just a way for her to take out her emotions. The same goes for other Hollywood child stars, we see them doing drugs acting out and later we find out all the abuse they went through and we can sympathize with them.
I agree I always felt for Bella and I didn’t know why
What about miley, she rebelled but didn't have a bad past.
@@saladasss2092 You can find some article where she is talking about the abuse she was received when she was shooting Disney shows
That’s so sad, I would have never guessed. It’s really interesting how the physiology of a women’s mind works when it comes to sexual abuse. I myself was sexually abused and didn’t have a strong father figure. I constantly sought validation from men and was over sexual in my life and interactions with men. I’m better now, working hard with a therapist.
I'm so sorry Giselle. I cannot imagine what you've endured. I'm sorry you had to go through that. I wish you nothing but the best and Blessings Galore!!! God Bless you and keep you safe ALWAYS!
@@randeephantom355 thank you so much ❤️❤️
Your so strong sweetheart. You are a fighter don't let anyone take the courage away from you
@giselle
Sweetheart, you're a precious person.
I'm so glad that you have a good therapist. Mine is worth her weight in gold.
it breaks my heart to say ‘same’.
even if my parents were super strict and overprotective it still happened.
You humanize so many people who have been dehumanized by the media. You have no idea how precious you are Sloan. You are that person everyone wants to have their back. You are super duper appreciated.
I never thought I'd be able to flex not watching/supporting the Disney Channel as a kid
Same but I mostly didn't have cable
I've never been so glad I didn't have tv growing up
@@MrFishateyokids I grew up with Cable. Streaming wasn't around until I was in around 12th grade or something like that
@@msteele674 my dad had cable and visited him on the weekend but I only watch nick and cartoon network... So yea
I had Netflix in 2015... Their content was better back then
I didn't watch Disney growing either, I started at 12 when I saw Shake it Up for the first time, then Austin and Ally, my current favorite show. But to find out someone my age, who I look up to went through such trauma breaks my heart
Her manager’s response.... wow. so glad she has them as her manager
"It's a private family matter" yeah that's what keeps ppl from talking, yall caring more about what others think than your own 😡
It seems like the best thing you can give children is a normal happy chilldhood.
Ty captain obvious lol
@@sommeresposito6208 you're welcome 💗
bare minimum
The fact that she had to grieve her father and go through that horror must have been awful :(
I've never been a fan of Bella Thorne (her phantom song slaps, tho) but ever since I heard of this happening to her, I've always felt for her. Unfortunately, I relate in a lot of ways so I can understand her hypersexual ways because I've always said, and as someone who has survived this myself, you either go the hypersexual route, or you completely clam up/are a bit more reserved when it comes to that. With the people I've talked to that have gone through the same thing, it's almost like there isn't a middle balance. It's like you're trying to take back your agency, or retain it.
Facts. Tbh I’ve gone through both phases because sadly like in most cases it happened more than once with more than one person. No one talks about the rate of it to happen again and it’s so 😭😭😭🥺
This ^
Yeah I always thought she was gross and weird. Now I know why she acts the way she does. She’s trying to live through serious trauma 😔
Absolutely! I have lived through both phases so I understand Bella perfectly
I’ve said the same thing, wild 😵😭
It is so important to have chats with your children about "good touches" and "bad touches". My parents always had these conversations with my brother and I. They always told us to come to them if someone is doing something like that. So sad that there are children who go though that abuse and they feel like they can't tell their parents and get unconditional support from them.
I got that talk as both my parents were victims of SA. I still ended up as a victim and didn’t tell them. I was threatened and was scared for them. It doesn’t always work :(
@@alize0623 same
@@alize0623 Same.
Sonic Says!
Poor girl never have a real childhood.. thanks for making us aware. not many people still focus on the fact that she went through so much.
Nobody wants to hear the stuff she's talking about. The akward silence after she goes in about how paparazzi was nowhere near as hard... I honestly don't know who she is, I didn't watch her stuff, but the bravery and just f*cking fighting. Still fighting, I now have respect for her despite not knowing her film or modeling career.
This explains so much about her hypersexuality. I never watched her shows or knew anything about her but even the snippets I heard were mostly about her being naked in some sort of context.
I blame the parents they're job is to protect and love they're children instead they sacrifice these kids to the industry for they're own selfish greedy needs vile 🤬🤬
Right? Every child deserves good parents.
Their*
I blame the abuser, who had everyone in her family fooled into trusting him
I remember her going through her "rebellious" phase and she would get so much hate online I had no idea how dark her childhood was just goes to show that we never know what someone is going through so we should all just be kind to one another life is hard enough ❤
It’s the guy her family took in and “raised as their own”. She’s never come out and blatantly said it but it makes sense. His name is Stephan Muskus. And her mother takes no responsibility of course 🙄 and says she had no idea and that Dani must’ve known because they always slept in the same room.
It is always the guys named "Stephen" that do this type of Shit
Her uncle was the one who said that her sister must know.
Her mother is the one in therapy over it.
I attacked Stephan Muskus on Twitter and you can't imagine how he shows his guilt with his behavior.Even a friend of his wrote to me on Instagram trying to dissuade me that it wasn't him.
@@brambara13 I think its him too
@@brambara13 I think that if we respect Bella's choice to wait before publicly accusing him, it'll be better for her.
She has the chance to press charges against him, and it'll work in her favour if we don't get involved just yet.
I very much hope that she does.
She might not be ready just yet to deal with the enormous stress of police interviews and court proceedings.
We can pray for her and gently support her on social media.💗
Can we just acknowledge SL04N for a quick second. Every single topic that he covers he told with such empathy and compassion that is completely nonexistent on things like mainstream news channels. Everytime something bad happens, he takes a brief minute to put himself/us in their shoes to really create a sense of compassion. Thank you for taking that moment to humanize celebrities as people again, they've gone though so much. 💖💖💖
Sloan is the best..
Sloan has such a charming, bright energy - I love watching his celebrity deep dives due to his unusually compassionate, empathetic take that you don't normally see in these kinds of Hollywood stories. Truly a breath of fresh air.
I love the fact you are brave enough to talk about everything you talk about
Slo4n does an important job. Thankful for him.
He really talks about the things we need to hear
Why brave? No shade or anything.. it’s just why would courage be needed to talk about the things he talks about? It’s important and SHOULD be talked about
Is it because RUclips can shadow ban him?
@@Shady.K1lls because 99% of people don't talk about this at all, and if they do they often get backlash from incels or Karens or other kinds of emotionally crippled POS'.
@@Mia199603 oh okay.. well I didn’t know because I follow a couple people and they do talk about these things. That’s why I was unaware and thought maybe it was because of RUclips and how they censor basically everything because if not people get demonetized or something
My daughter referred me to your show and I have to say, "You have a beautiful soul". Your genuine empathetic and humble personality is refreshing to see. These enlightening, controversial and emotional topics are hard to watch BUT NECESSARY for the world to be more accepting and aware of each other. Thankyou for shining brightness into the world and I pray for Bella's healing & self-love journey AMEN xxx
For any victims of SA especially by a family member i am so sorry 😞 your experience is valid and it was not your fault. It’s terrible how often the other family members won’t believe the victim and even defend the abuser
I was touched 1 time by my step-uncle at about 8 yrs old. I cannot imagine how a little child handles on going violation. To this day when I see my step uncle I feel like a 8 yr old child again who is frozen. I’m 45 yrs old!
So proud of Bella for her honesty. I know for a fact it will help a child out there.
Sorry you had to go through that.
You should’ve beat his ass at 45
Look at the statistics speaking on s**ual abuse... now add to it. The majority of these cases go unreported. A big warm hug to anyone surviving.
I've created a video on my experiences involving my sa story if anyone is interested.
I was date raped and I also gave my dad cpr as he died and I struggled with addiction for so long and so much more. I didn't wanna feel all the bad things in my life and I literally lost everything. Eventually I got tired of living that way and I didn't wanna be a victim anymore. We all go through bad things. Some worse than others.. but when I wallowed in my misery my life was terrible. It felt like nothing but bad things happened. When I started finding the good in things and got off drugs it made me wanna be a kind person (of course I lose my temper sometimes. Mainly on call centers 😂) it made me realize that life is short and I can choose to be the victor of all the terrible things I've OVERCOME! I pray for anyone suffering! I pray that you take victory over anything terrible in your life! And if you don't believe. I send positive, kind, loving and healing vibes 💚
God bless you Addie. If you could, please pray for my neighbor Sandy. She just lost her husband this morning. Undiagnosed congestive heart failure. . I would greatly appreciate it..
You are strong 🙏🏽🥺❤️
My friend Hunter was Dating Dani while Bella was filming Shake it up and you are definitely right about Stephan. I have hung out with the Thornes at their home in woodland hills numerous times and Stephan always gave me a bad vibe and at one point I was under the impression that Stephan was hooking up with Tamara which I thought was bizarre due to the age gap. Bella is and was such an angel I wish I knew what she was going through back then. I feel so guilty that I didn't know enough to protect her! I am so proud of Bella and everything that she has accomplished. Such a Brave Warrior
It's so sad that so many young girls go through these types of things. I personally have been abused by someone really close and related to me. I never told my parents or anyone and I still act like I don't remember what happened. I always thought that it was my fault and that I'm sick for doing something which I was clearly manipulated to do to that person. Actually today was the day when a really close friend of mine actually reached out to me and shared that she's been going through a similar experience and I actually for the first time in my life, actually told anyone that I've been through that. I couldn't actually tell who was the person doing that to me and my friend didn't say anything either. So I can understand why Bella doesn't share who hurt her like this. After sharing this secret I've been keeping for years and years with my friend, I actually feel like I'm finally not a freak and I'm not alone. I am still ashamed and I still feel guilty and I haven't even told my therapist about it but I'm starting to see that I've been manipulated and it is not my fault. If anyone reading this comment has been or is going through something similar and keeps it a secret, I really advice you to share with someone. You are not alone. We see you. We hear you.
It's absolutely not your fault, and it was brave of you to share this even in the comments. I hope you become comfortable enough to work through what happened with your therapist. It was never your fault, never okay, you were never responsible for any of what happened.
💗💗💗
Every time I watch a show with actors under the age of 18 I think of your amazing & informative videos; so scary & sad.
I wanna leave this comment here, because I replied to somebody else saying something like "oh, poor Bella, so sad, that this happened to her.. I still condone her behaviour, but now I understand why she is acting like she is.." etc.. And when I replied "who cares what you condone" several people started attacking me for that. The original comment got deleted after I explained where I was coming from, but I wanna leave what I wrote anyways, cause it might change somebodys perspective or make somebody feel heard. This is what I wrote..
I am a survivor myself. And I have worked for many years with survivors. And one of the most hurtful aspects of speaking out about the abuse, is the way others judge and revictimize survivors. There are those, who outright accuse them of lying or saying they deserved it. And then there are those, who seem supportive, but bring everything we do back to the abuse.
What is this about? That she is sleeping around or sexually provocative? But that's okay. She can be that without having been abused. And explaining her open display of her sexuality as a consequence of her being victimized is stripping her away from selfdetermination and victimizing her all over again. It's like saying "oh, now I understand why you are broken." Because women, who are okay with their own sexuality have to be broken. If men act like this, nobody would question, if they have been abused.
My comment wasn't about Bella. It's about every survivor, that has to deal with these kind of judgements every day.
And I don't have to be emotionally invested to share my opinion.
I agree with you and I’m very sorry. Instantly when people say stuff like this I think how condescending it sounds and as u said treating them more as victims than survivors
@@megl1884 yeah.. I'm grateful the years of being triggered by such people are behind me. I hope everybody finds peace within, cause unfortunately we can't rely on them changing.
Thank u for being so respectful and kind when u talk about people in ur videos, a lot of RUclipsrs aren’t ❤️😩
this video never popped up on my feed ): i only found it by going to your playlists on your channel. glad i found it though! love your content
It will be released soon!
I feel so sad for the hate Bella has gotten, and being compared to Zendaya. They are both great actresses and stars. You never know what someone is going through and I think a lot of people need to remember that when looking into a celebrity’s life.
Ikr, it's horrible, they were forced to compete by Disney but became best friends despite that, but people still won't stop comparing them constantly, it's so stupid and immature, who cares who's "better" or "prettier" or "more talented", they are both amazingly talented beautiful young women, just let them be their own unique selves
I love all of your hard work Sloan! You're so dedicated to your channel and it shows
I totally understand her, i was molested by a boy who had class with me, this happed in front of everyone who as around, but when i asked for help to the vice director (a women) the apology was my clothes, "your body attracted him". People need to figured out, that sexual abuse or any type of abuse, happens really close of them, happens in any place, any situation. Unfortunately people choose to runaway of the situation, runaway of the reality of a sexual abuse that was committed by someone that you judge as a good person. Like Bella, i still have nightmares, all my body shakes, i just want to throw up the pain that him caused me, cause he didn't just hurt my body, he hurt my soul. when i remember him faces or him name, the feeling of being used and the feeling that nobody will never loved me genuinely comeback. Take care of the ones who are around you, predators are in everywhere.
Jesus. That is awful. May he rot forever castrated
Celebrity Child actors go through so much pressure behind close doors! So sad!
i always felt uncomfy when people would cyberbully her and negatively compare her to zendaya, esp. when they made fun of her for that dyslexia video :(
I'm glad that you're making videos about this. People need to know the truth
i'm so happy people like bella are open with their trauma, it's uncomfortable but bringing awareness is so important for issues to stop and also so others don't feel alone.💓
That’s what I’m doing for healthcare workers. I was injured on duty and was harassed and forced to resign. There are so many stories if you look #silentnomore. I was sucker punched in the back of the head with no correct medical treatment.
Breaks my heart at what these children went through. So sad.
I couldn't imagine putting that kind of pressure on my kids.
Bella Thorne is incredibly brave and SLOAN, you’re awesome for sharing this story. You’re helping people right now find their voice!!!
He is so respectful of the ppl he talks about its nice to see. Subed!
Oh Bella...
All this time you’ve been hurting so much. My heart breaks for you and many other survivors out there 💔
I understand her not mentioning who it is because it’ll be like reliving it we don’t need to know who it is she just needs to heal I feel so bad for her childhood I feel like I understand her more her father died when she was young and she had to be the breadwinner hopefully she continues to act and gets the help she needs
he needs to be held accountbility! these kind of people cant do shit like this and dont expect any kind of punishment!!
As much as I don't like her as a person, I respect her a lot for speaking out about her experiences. No one deserves to suffer like that, especially not in silence. And thank you for always handling the subjects of your videos with such sensitivity and care.
pleasee talk about Ricky Garcia and how he was sexually abused by his manager for years. He was on a Disney show " Best Friends Whenever ". Not a lot of people talk abt it since the show was cancelled after 2 seasons
Yes!!!
I remember that show, I watched it when I was bored, but holy shit I had no idea that happened
I love how you refer to Dan Schneider as a problem
I never knew her story with SA and my heart breaks for her. I understand the pain of being assaulted by someone in your own home and the messed up stuff it does with your head.
Man... I had no idea she had been through so much. People don’t want to acknowledge how many people go through things like this, and that the majority of the time the perpetrator is known to the victim or within the family, not the stranger in a dark alley like people want to think, because it’s unthinkingable that a person’s own family member can do that.
Sloan, thank you for your amazing job. I really appreciate how you always talk with respect about everything. You deserve the best! I hope you are taking care and wish you well.
This is heartbreaking to hear about this from another person growing up being abused. It reminds me of mine and my cousins childhoods actually. Knowing a family member that you have to be around would do things to you and you are too young to understand it's not right. It's sick and they are vile to hurt young children. I'm 42 years old and have just started trauma therapy because quite a lot of these experiences I blocked from my mind as a child. I still had the psychological and physical scars from it but not the memories until now. My cousins even more so and they were so much younger. And we're just everyday people not in the spotlight like a lot of these young girls and boys. My heart goes out to her and all those affected by abuse, of any kind. 😔
I have been writing poetry about my life and my experiences and my trauma since I was 12 years old, I'm now 30, and it was the only way I got to let it out so I completely understand this. It was the only way that I could truly tell anyone what I went through/was going through. Poetry gave me the courage to speak out. I'm so glad Bella used her Fame and her book to speak out and I'm glad she is no longer ashamed
Autumn. Whoever you are and whenever, or if u see this I wanted to tell you, the gift you gave Sloan for his dog was so touching and beautiful. You have a beautiful soul. My grandmother told me many stories when she was still with us, regarding angels among us. I believe she was speaking about those like you. Side note: mad props to Bella for lifting the weight of the world from her shoulders. I too can relate. Much love to Autumn, Sloan and Bella for all being beautiful people on the inside as well as out. 💋💋 from Alaska
My heart just breaks bc I see a lot of little girls on Tiktok sexualizing them selves and they get hated on, but now, I'm starting to see that people dont just wake up and decide to do these things.
Never felt so heard than through her. Experienced being m****ed from the age of 5-14 by someone in my family. I didn’t realize it was wrong growing up and when you finally realize it, you just feel so lost. Bella is so brave. Hopefully I can find the courage to tell my story to my family instead of the RUclips comments. Thanks to anyone reading and I hope everyone is safe.
Wow! Your family member is a piece of work... It happend to me when i was 2 by my babysitter's son.... Im so sorry! 🙁
She is literally one of the must beautiful people
I never knew this about Bella and always assumed she was “wild” but I’m also a survivor and never spoke out until my mid 20’s but growing up I was always so angry! Bella spoke about being angry and just like her I was considered a “wild” child by my parents but I remember being so mad with the world during my teen years and I didn’t start a process of healing until I finally spoke out about it. This video made me cry…. I empathize with Bella and you never truly heal because it’s something so traumatic that robs you of having a happy childhood and brings on so many trust issues later in life but I’m sending her and anyone else who has been through something like this lots of love and positive vibes.♥️
This is so incredibly sad. I hope she finds her peace and happiness as an adult. It’s incredible as even a tiny little baby, she looks exactly the same. I’m glad for her that bitterness didn’t take over and ruin her life and her beauty. I hope that makes sense. So many people suffering with trauma never heal and we turn to drugs and just hard life choices sucks out souls out. God bless her. I hope she gets help and happiness.
Damn I remember when I was younger watching shake it up wishing I could have her life looking up to her 😭 not everything on the media is what it seems
As someone who was ashamed about my childhood s/a, I’m so thankful for her to show me that I’m not alone and it’s okay to talk about it. Say what you want about her, but she is so brave
I'm ngl I didn't even realize she was on Disney, I think it was around the time I grew out of most Disney shows so I probably didn't see her
Either way it's terrible what she went through and what parents and adults keep putting these kids through! Definitely a lot of things I didn't know in this video, keep up the good work
she’s incredibly brave and strong for bringing this to light. I was SA by family growing up, and I didn’t say a word until I was 15. I was young and had no idea what was going on until I was much older. Her mom reminded me of how my mom reacted - she made it about her.
Ive told some friends but not my family I honestly think it will break them
I have noticed that a lot ex Disney stars who change there persona we think are rebellious but really they been through s*** like r@pe or sa which is very wrong and sad and of course the people they work for don’t care and they make you look all goody good I hope other ex Disney members come out and any child entertainment industry but I know it’s difficult for them to come and say this been happening to me for a very long time I congratulate Bella for telling the world about what happened to her
Thank you for sharing her story and not letting any mistakes she has made influence you telling it.
I didn’t watch Shake it up. Shake it up came on when I got older and stopped watch Disney. Plus all my childhood shows were ending at the time. I use to wish I was a Disney actress so I can be like Raven Symone until I found out what really was going on in Disney and Nickelodeon.
I think it's also worth noting that Bella having an OF doesn't invalidate her abuse story at all. I see victims of SA being stripped off their sexuality way too often. She said it herself that she sees her body as something she has to offer to receive affection, and somehow she gets backlash for being a sexual being - every person has their sexuality, whether they're ace or a child or an elderly person. In her case, when she was already robbed of her childhood, some people want to take away her right to cherishing her body too. Like... sex is a need just like feeling loved or eating. Make it make sense Sloan because I can't.
I don't think it made it 'much harder' for swers to make money. It's just a fee cap, not actually that big of a deal imo. You can still make money, you just can't make as much off a single post anymore.
Wow, this is so heartbreaking. As someone that was also sexually abused for years as a child, I can relate to her. Not the being a child star part, obviously. But I know what it's like to feel unsafe in your home at night. People told me not to trust strangers, but the person hurting me lived in my house!
She's a very strong and courageous woman. It breaks my heart when I hear about these things happening to children. It makes me very angry too.
Their lives are so public and it leads people to assume they know what’s going on. I’m so glad she (and you, of course, Sloan☺️) is talking about it, bringing attention to this, for those of us without a platform.
Big SECRETS eat you inside🥺 When a secret it's too heavy to carry, no wonder it destroys you. I hope she will be helped to work on that, I don't know if it was ever done properly😐
Wow I never knew any of this about Bella. My heart goes out to her, she is so brave for sharing her story and I’m sure it’s helped many out there who have experienced the same thing.
This is so sad. I didn't understand her behavior after Disney but now I do. I wish her all the best
I have a similar story to hers, I’ve always liked her but I definitely judged her actions recently but now I completely understand her. When she said it made her and changed her it really does. It basically changes everything about your life. When your a kid they groom you , into accepting it... as an adult I just started to understand that because I kept blaming myself...
*Stockholm Syndrome can develop in any victim of ANY abuse where a power dynamic is clearly present*
It’s a coping mechanism. a Survival technique, if you will.
*Stockholm Syndrome is described as ANY relationship where a victim has developed a strong, positive, lowkey loyal af, bond with their abuser.* like ... in order to survive and/or cope.
here’s a list of SOME (not all) situations where Stockholm Syndrome could develop:
*firstly, victims of domestic violence.* there’s so much on THAT alone that needs to be researched & taken seriously to help combat “victim blaming” & shaming those abused into thinking it’s their fault for loving their abusive partner, making excuses for the abuse, refusing help, & not leaving. like, yeah ... that’s called Stockholm Syndrome. & it’s not their fault at all. ...
anywho, here’s the rest of the list of only some situations where Stockholm Syndrome develops that i got off the internet:
Some of the populations affected with this condition include *concentration camp prisoners, prisoners of war, abused children, incest survivors, victims of domestic violence, cult members, and people in toxic work or church environments.*
IT’S NOT JUST FOR VICTIMS BEING HELD HOSTAGE. PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT.
My heart is just breaking listening to this, you’re such an effective story teller as well💜
I’m not a fan of her “now” character but I acknowledge the trauma imposed by her environment. Hollywood is really an evil place
Character? She not a character, she's a person. I was, is, and always will be a fan of her. If you're a fan of her when she was on Disney, you were never a fan of her, you were a fan of Cece Jones, who she was forced to act like constantly. Now she's finally being herself, but you don't like her anymore, you want "Disney Bella", but that was never her, you were never a fan Bella Thorne
@@bellaknightR597 I meant character as in her morals and behavior babe. Never was a fan of her on Disney or whatever but I’m acknowledging her trauma and long terms effects it caused.
@@stacebunzz4350 oh ok I'm dumb, and I shouldn't have assumed anything it's just I see people saying they were a fan of on Disney but not anymore and it's frustrating, I apologize for putting you in crossfire on that, I just had get it off my chest, I'm sorry
@@bellaknightR597 you are NOT dumb. And I understand where you’re coming from about people judging her without letting her break out of the “Disney star” aspect. 100% agree with you!
@@stacebunzz4350 aww thanks 😊. And I agree, it's why Disney stars go to such lengths to distance themselves from their Disney Image, and people call them crazy. Sometimes it's easier like Ross Lynch losing his by playing Jeffery Dahmer but it's harder for others, who struggle to or even fail to get work after leaving Disney because they aren't taken seriously as actors, it's sucks
I truly love that you are always so kind and respectful of every individual you create content on, I just hate Bella Thorne. I again appreciate that you look at everything from so many angles and don’t just have a one sided take on people but idk I just needed to write this out I guess. I’m a cb camgirl and have many many friends on of and lots of them were really financially fucked over by Bella’s stunt on the platform. I personally know someone who was a part of a group chat with bella and her mother for of promotions and such and just the things that I’ve heard. I just don’t want what she did to the online sw community to slip under the rug. I want her to continue to be associated with that terrible action because she’s still on the platform. Pretty much the whole entire internet sw community hates her and feels as if she made us a joke and used us for a quick profit. People don’t stand up for sw’s very much and I think a lot of people are easily willing to forget that she even made an of let alone caused massive ripple effects throughout the entire community
What’s an sw?
@@Isabel_fit just always figure sw is less likely to get flagged or removed than the term sex worker
@@Isabel_fit ahhh example A! My first comment that just simply stated - sex worker was auto deleted by RUclips
Zendaya came out fine. Family support really helps a lot.
I would've turned out fine too if I had family support.