pentergraph It’s because the project got delayed due to other priorities like City/Southeast (L2/L3) Light Rail, Sydney Metro and the new interurban D sets.
@Paul Bennett Can you delete your driverless trains comment? It offended me badly, as I'm going to be badly affected by Metro redevelopment, and someone bullied me about it.
@Paul Bennett But someone bullied me and offended me. I'm not an SJW snowflake, I have autism and I can be easily overwhelmed and offended. I've been bullied without sympathy that I will be losing my home in Waterloo due to Metro redevelopment.
It’s annoying how these two are always out at a time where I can’t film or get photos! At least you finally got clear shots of the new interior this time.
dean r It is quite astonishing when you realise how long they've been in service at this point, but I think it's thanks to recent interior refurbishments that these T sets have still been able to compete with say, the Waratahs. T sets almost suggests they look like a product from much later than the late 80's, considering the marketing SRA (State Rail Authority) was pushing at the time the T sets were first being promoted.
Gosh I hope they have fixed the suspensions of those carriages. Those awful loud hits, swings and bump sounds are soo damn loud if you sit on the vestibule side.
Personally, I hope they preserve some tangaras without the new technology because although having this kind of technology is sometimes beneficial, I personally just can't adapt to it.
The Tangaras that are getting the upgrade. Some of the components look the same from the A sets, B sets, H sets & M sets. Comparing the components from these sets. Internal screens - B sets, CCTV - B sets, Help Point - H & M sets, Door release - H & M sets, desto - H & M sets, Doors closing DVA - M sets, Internal DVA - Not to sure. So yeah and great video
Transport Vlogs It is quite interesting to notice the Tangaras taking on features from each of the fourth generation fleet. The vestibule split poles are the same ones in the H sets, and the seat fabric is based on the H, A and B sets. And then there’s the doors that are based on the M sets!
I think the t sets hasn't caught up with the h sets A sets & m sets.in a long time.cause they been old trains then.& it's hard to hear guards announcements when there was no desto board inside the train. But it would ve costed a lot of money to upgrade the trains to modern standards.& take longer with the testings.it wouldn't surprise me if the t sets competed with the modern sets. I would actually would like to see these t set in full use of these upgrades by the time it's completed in a year or two.
The T4 line only supports Tangara, so finally we will be able to get much better trains. Plus, when my mum's half-sleeping, she always asks me the station we're at. These new electronic boards will save me from looking out the window and looking.
In peak hour they have some Oscars running T4 express services and off peak the run empty to Mortdale, Cronulla and Waterfall and you will see the South Coast services to
@@nickhayesreviews What he means is that 95% of services for the T4 line are T set rosters, as they're the only fleet safe enough to use the line without causing power issues. That remaining 5% are AM peak H set rosters, mostly running express to Hurstville and Sutherland.
Why all the upgrades on the Tangaras? Is it similar to the Oscars which are being replaced by the new interurban fleet, so more moving to suburban operation? It feels like such a waste to me (the oscars being converted) because they only (semi) recently got the intercity packages (seats with headrests etc.), and I'm fond of the idea of having two different (significantly distinct) versions of the same series. Don't get me wrong, I recognise having different designs for different purposes is great, but I'll miss the V sets, converted Oscars and Tangaras.
Thomas Ning H sets are being converted as the entire intercity fleet is being replaced by the D set. Think of it as the whole G set Tangara situation all over again.
phil as you know the carlingford line is closing im guessing you will head out there for some sort of farewell video? ive enjoyed that line its quite historic being single track with the level crossing and wooden posts for the electricity and rosehill station with the very long platform
kaelan Grisdale They will likely be on the Northern, North Shore and Western Lines first, as the drivers over there are more used to Waratahs and the new T set consoles are said to be more similar to the ones used on a Waratah. They will progressively roll onto the Eastern Suburbs and Illawarra Line later as drivers are more properly trained over there, as they're only familiar with T sets.
Jamie Lipscomb When you think about it, the M/H/A/B sets all have push buttons, so it makes more sense. It's all to help compete with the fourth gen fleet, and give that same benefit to T4 line customers who heavily rely on T sets.
BanksfielderIdiot3176 I once bonked my head on those back in the old days of the Tangaras. I travelled on them a lot when I was a kid when I stayed at my grandmother’s house near Dundas during school holidays. Often caught Tangaras to Parramatta where I would get a connecting bus. I still remember when Parramatta got completely revamped in the mid 2000’s to accommodate the new bus interchange and direct entry into Westfield.
Transport Vlogs It might be the same voice that Waratahs use, since it is getting information screens in the B sets’ digital display. It would be interesting hearing T4 line stations read out in a Waratah voice. I don’t like how the M sets just reuse Taylor Owynns’ voice from the DVAs you hear on platforms.
VJ 4126 It will mostly roll out onto the T1/T9 lines first as each upgraded set is done, as those lines run drivers who are used to Waratah controls which the new Tangara driver consoles will probably be modelled off. T4 line drivers only get Tangaras and are only trained for those sets and nothing else, so they will roll out sets on the T4 line after they have been trained enough for T1/T9 drivers.
Half of the Tangaras on the T1/T9 are the Mortdale Tangaras since last week, maybe the Hornsby ones are getting the updates so maybe the last of them are going to be for the T4
Sydney Traveller Vlogs That’s my thought. It would make sense to do Hornsby sets before the Mortdale ones as the Sector 1 drivers are only familiar with Tangaras, and since their new consoles will look closer to that of a Waratah, it’d make sense Sector 3 drivers get retrained first considering they’d be familiar with Waratahs.
5:22 could that actually be an internal emergency door release handle, finally retrofitted some 16 years after it was recommended by the Waterfall accident inquiry, and a mere 10 years after the date the government said that all trains would have been retrofitted by?
Sad to see that a long while after the first of the TTUs were rolled out they have now been deemed unsafe, and we have already seen two Tangara sets scrapped due to them
hey phil i live in St Leonards and saw a tangara outside my window with front LED sign showing "Hornsby" around 21:30pm. Not sure what set number it is or if its the one shown in your video. quite happy that i saw it though there was a sign on the doors i assuming its the "Do not board train testing"
Indeed. In fact actually a very busy Olympic Park on the weekend of 2nd and 3rd November 2019 due to trackwork which see lots of buses (from Merrylands, Parramatta and Carlingford) and trains start and terminate at Olympic Park (thus enabling direct trains to and from the City). And also Shawn Mendes concert at Qudos Bank Arena for two nights which actually makes this trackwork very worth it as it removes the need to change at Lidcombe (I guess maybe they made buses and trains go up to Olympic Park for this reason). My footage here: ruclips.net/video/rOxVFgq5it4/видео.html
Ashley Williams It’s because the new consoles are going to be based off the Waratahs, so it would make sense to do Hornsby-based sets before the Mortdale sets. T106 is technically Mortdale, but has carried black target plates (usually for Hornsby sets) for at least a year now.
No, there perfectly fine! In some cities like New York, they have rolling stock from the 60s! You should be thankful for these trains. The newest Tangara is only from 1995!
They blew the entire budget for the project on this one 8 car set lol
pentergraph It’s because the project got delayed due to other priorities like City/Southeast (L2/L3) Light Rail, Sydney Metro and the new interurban D sets.
@Paul Bennett Can you delete your driverless trains comment? It offended me badly, as I'm going to be badly affected by Metro redevelopment, and someone bullied me about it.
@Paul Bennett But someone bullied me and offended me. I'm not an SJW snowflake, I have autism and I can be easily overwhelmed and offended. I've been bullied without sympathy that I will be losing my home in Waterloo due to Metro redevelopment.
@@nicholetheotter1957 Tfw you're not mocking SJWs by pretending to be them, but are really word-assaulted by big meanie wordies.
It’s out of service since 2016 lmao 😂
It’s annoying how these two are always out at a time where I can’t film or get photos! At least you finally got clear shots of the new interior this time.
they still look modern considering they are 31 years old now
dean r It is quite astonishing when you realise how long they've been in service at this point, but I think it's thanks to recent interior refurbishments that these T sets have still been able to compete with say, the Waratahs. T sets almost suggests they look like a product from much later than the late 80's, considering the marketing SRA (State Rail Authority) was pushing at the time the T sets were first being promoted.
These trains looked much more modern before 2003 lol 😂
the tangara might be my fav model out of all of them, its good to see them get a little upgrade
They really need to fix the suspension & jump / hit noise from between the carriages. It's an absolute shock at times.
Vijay Visweswaran agree!
That t set technology’s upgrade looks really nice
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Kris Crown And more! Hey
I've been waiting for this moment for so long
Love what they did with the TTU!
Nice vlog, when are these trains entering service?
Gosh I hope they have fixed the suspensions of those carriages. Those awful loud hits, swings and bump sounds are soo damn loud if you sit on the vestibule side.
You’re suggesting new alternate gangways like the ones on T65?
I have such fond memories of tangara launch that itll always be my favourite
Personally, I hope they preserve some tangaras without the new technology because although having this kind of technology is sometimes beneficial, I personally just can't adapt to it.
It’ll be cool if T20 (the first tangara) was saved from the upgrade but we’ll have to wait and see.
They have the M set doors closing announcements now.
wrong
They do
The Tangaras that are getting the upgrade. Some of the components look the same from the A sets, B sets, H sets & M sets. Comparing the components from these sets. Internal screens - B sets, CCTV - B sets, Help Point - H & M sets, Door release - H & M sets, desto - H & M sets, Doors closing DVA - M sets, Internal DVA - Not to sure. So yeah and great video
Transport Vlogs It is quite interesting to notice the Tangaras taking on features from each of the fourth generation fleet. The vestibule split poles are the same ones in the H sets, and the seat fabric is based on the H, A and B sets. And then there’s the doors that are based on the M sets!
Ok
The metro will be completed by the time this even rolls out to all Tangara sets
At this rate, I imagine it will take that long to complete the whole fleet. 2022 is looking to be the earliest.
I think the t sets hasn't caught up with the h sets A sets & m sets.in a long time.cause they been old trains then.& it's hard to hear guards announcements when there was no desto board inside the train.
But it would ve costed a lot of money to upgrade the trains to modern standards.& take longer with the testings.it wouldn't surprise me if the t sets competed with the modern sets.
I would actually would like to see these t set in full use of these upgrades by the time it's completed in a year or two.
Let's hope the tangara destos stay working this time.
The T4 line only supports Tangara, so finally we will be able to get much better trains.
Plus, when my mum's half-sleeping, she always asks me the station we're at. These new electronic boards will save me from looking out the window and looking.
Yeah at least that's one thing about the upgrade
When you say the T4 line only supports Tangara, there is an Oscar which goes to Cronulla every weekday, doesn't stop though. I always see it go past.
In peak hour they have some Oscars running T4 express services and off peak the run empty to Mortdale, Cronulla and Waterfall and you will see the South Coast services to
@@nickhayesreviews What he means is that 95% of services for the T4 line are T set rosters, as they're the only fleet safe enough to use the line without causing power issues. That remaining 5% are AM peak H set rosters, mostly running express to Hurstville and Sutherland.
Great vid!
Good Vlog Phil
Why all the upgrades on the Tangaras? Is it similar to the Oscars which are being replaced by the new interurban fleet, so more moving to suburban operation?
It feels like such a waste to me (the oscars being converted) because they only (semi) recently got the intercity packages (seats with headrests etc.), and I'm fond of the idea of having two different (significantly distinct) versions of the same series. Don't get me wrong, I recognise having different designs for different purposes is great, but I'll miss the V sets, converted Oscars and Tangaras.
Thomas Ning H sets are being converted as the entire intercity fleet is being replaced by the D set. Think of it as the whole G set Tangara situation all over again.
I love how the new T sets have a Millennium doors closing announcements.
phil as you know the carlingford line is closing im guessing you will head out there for some sort of farewell video? ive enjoyed that line its quite historic being single track with the level crossing and wooden posts for the electricity and rosehill station with the very long platform
I see that they have some of some B set technology T sets are like more then a decade old I luv tangara this still look so beautiful!
When are they going to be in service and what lines are they going to run on
kaelan Grisdale They will likely be on the Northern, North Shore and Western Lines first, as the drivers over there are more used to Waratahs and the new T set consoles are said to be more similar to the ones used on a Waratah. They will progressively roll onto the Eastern Suburbs and Illawarra Line later as drivers are more properly trained over there, as they're only familiar with T sets.
I'm going to miss the handles on the inter-carriage doors
Jamie Lipscomb When you think about it, the M/H/A/B sets all have push buttons, so it makes more sense. It's all to help compete with the fourth gen fleet, and give that same benefit to T4 line customers who heavily rely on T sets.
Oh man, I still miss the roof poles that used to dominate these trains (The ones that people seem to keep running into)
BanksfielderIdiot3176 I once bonked my head on those back in the old days of the Tangaras. I travelled on them a lot when I was a kid when I stayed at my grandmother’s house near Dundas during school holidays. Often caught Tangaras to Parramatta where I would get a connecting bus. I still remember when Parramatta got completely revamped in the mid 2000’s to accommodate the new bus interchange and direct entry into Westfield.
Good job Phil!
2:03 T106/T72 changed to the M set “Doors closing” announcement?
Yeah I noticed it to with the doors closing DVA
@@transportvlogs I'm actually happy it didn't get the Waratah voice, as I hate that one. H set voice would have sounded nice with it as well.
Yeah that's true. But the M set door closing DVA is ok and I wonder what the internal DVA will sound like
Transport Vlogs It might be the same voice that Waratahs use, since it is getting information screens in the B sets’ digital display. It would be interesting hearing T4 line stations read out in a Waratah voice. I don’t like how the M sets just reuse Taylor Owynns’ voice from the DVAs you hear on platforms.
Yeah that is true. How knows it might have a M, H or A & B set DVA or it will have a different DVA. Probably not the Metropolis DVA
Went this update going on T4 lines
VJ 4126 It will mostly roll out onto the T1/T9 lines first as each upgraded set is done, as those lines run drivers who are used to Waratah controls which the new Tangara driver consoles will probably be modelled off. T4 line drivers only get Tangaras and are only trained for those sets and nothing else, so they will roll out sets on the T4 line after they have been trained enough for T1/T9 drivers.
Ok
Half of the Tangaras on the T1/T9 are the Mortdale Tangaras since last week, maybe the Hornsby ones are getting the updates so maybe the last of them are going to be for the T4
Sydney Traveller Vlogs That’s my thought. It would make sense to do Hornsby sets before the Mortdale ones as the Sector 1 drivers are only familiar with Tangaras, and since their new consoles will look closer to that of a Waratah, it’d make sense Sector 3 drivers get retrained first considering they’d be familiar with Waratahs.
Amazing!
I caught this at campbelltown
Did they put this is every tangara trains
VJ 4126 T72 and T106, the sets seen here, are currently the only confirmed sets with these so far.
@@nicholetheotter1957 oh well I'd love to see that cause I once didn't even hear the persons voice
DID THAT TANGARA HAVE A M SET DOORS CLOSING ANNOUNCEMENT
I think it did- perhaps the normal one wasn't loud enough or wasn't clear enough.
But they could've just resorted to the even older voice :(
Where was the xpt going to
Vanessa Paulides considering the apparent time, I think that one's melbourne, but don't quote me on that.
That took them a while.
5:22 could that actually be an internal emergency door release handle, finally retrofitted some 16 years after it was recommended by the Waterfall accident inquiry, and a mere 10 years after the date the government said that all trains would have been retrofitted by?
Hey Phil, may I share this with people on MY RUclips channel please?
Question. At 8:52 when the T's were at Platform 10, and you standing on 9 (I presume), what is the middle track for?
It's a stable road, used for out of service trains.
Looks like the font of the front desto is similar, or identical, to the Waratah's.
Gene Zou It actually is the same LED display used on the A/B sets.
@@nicholetheotter1957 Except it doesn't display the second line that displays "via ______".
@@SydneyMetroVlogs That's because the destos aren't as big as the Waratah ones.
When will others be done
Ashley Williams They will upgrade I believe 16 carriages at a time, so four 4-car sets. These works are done at Unipart, just west of Auburn station.
Nichole The Otter when will it happen
Sad to see that a long while after the first of the TTUs were rolled out they have now been deemed unsafe, and we have already seen two Tangara sets scrapped due to them
The TTU has been announced to be resumed in testing this year.
hey phil i live in St Leonards and saw a tangara outside my window with front LED sign showing "Hornsby" around 21:30pm. Not sure what set number it is or if its the one shown in your video. quite happy that i saw it though there was a sign on the doors i assuming its the "Do not board train testing"
Jonathan Ng That was indeed T72 and T106. They’re the ones testing the TTU stuff.
Indeed. In fact actually a very busy Olympic Park on the weekend of 2nd and 3rd November 2019 due to trackwork which see lots of buses (from Merrylands, Parramatta and Carlingford) and trains start and terminate at Olympic Park (thus enabling direct trains to and from the City).
And also Shawn Mendes concert at Qudos Bank Arena for two nights which actually makes this trackwork very worth it as it removes the need to change at Lidcombe (I guess maybe they made buses and trains go up to Olympic Park for this reason).
My footage here: ruclips.net/video/rOxVFgq5it4/видео.html
How long till they enter these 2
Apparently December, but it could be longer.
Ashley Williams December at the earliest, and most likely on the Western/Northern/North Shore Lines.
Big chance that it will take longer.
ANIKET SINHA I thought the t4 line would be first to get it in service
Ashley Williams It’s because the new consoles are going to be based off the Waratahs, so it would make sense to do Hornsby-based sets before the Mortdale sets. T106 is technically Mortdale, but has carried black target plates (usually for Hornsby sets) for at least a year now.
Was that at 2:00 the Tangara or an Oscar?
Oscar in the left-hand corner.
It was the Tangara as the Oscar still has its doors open
still not in service
Why does it still have the green button
T72 from Vlog 596
When it’s open
The Tangara windows are blurry so that's why I don't like them
Now that tangara technology upgrade now it has m set style doors and m set closing announcement.HOW A COPYCAT
Should be scrapping them!
No, there perfectly fine! In some cities like New York, they have rolling stock from the 60s! You should be thankful for these trains. The newest Tangara is only from 1995!