Hadee Lone I read ya sentence wrong, there happens to be a card named Disperse and I thought you said that. Yeah, dispersal is a decently common card so I feel like you'd lose from someone casting it somewhat often.
The 5 colour Lich's Mastery I've seen floating around, with Mirari Conjecture, Chance for Glory, Mastermind's Acquisition and Banefire seems more viable and less painful to close out once you go off
It's the most degenerate broken gimmicke deck for the mastery I've seen so far. Thanks a lot, I've spent an hour watching this. My night will be lich filled. I love your content though
@@obesechicken13 No one prevents you from running counterspells. If you have 20 cards in hand the chances one of them being a counterspell should be extremely high.
@@LegenVD It feels like it makes your dawn of hope way more mana efficient though. you don't have to rely on flipping the azore's gatway. because now you get 4/4 evasion creatures with each activation of the dawn of hope. that's 4x the damage through the air, will make games go a lot faster. because losing the gateaway takes you back what up to 4 turns?
I love that card, lich mastery. Love the art, name and all of it. I have faith in it lol, need to buy one now which is probably cheap just to have it. Maybe it can be a thing one day with some combo in EDH, no idea
Can someone help? I enjoy building green decks, more or less. Im happy when im playing with creatures. How do i answer a deck like this? I cant think of much other than having a couple indestructible creatures, which there are few. And all of the anti-enchantment cards i can think of would get bounced off the hexproof of lich. And its seems the instants and sorceries that give all creatures indestructible are now out of rotation. I know control is real strong right now, but how would i stay afloat with a creature heavy deck with decks like this?
Your best bet is just trying to get as much damage in as fast as possible and hope to dodge a timely sweeper. More carddraw like Beast Whisperer and Vivien could provide more creatures to recover from all the removal. You can eventually force them to sacrifice permanents when they have Mastery in play.
@@LegenVD thanks so much for the reply, really appreciate it. I do run beast whisperer and vivien, and could stand to run one more whisperer. I just wish green had a couple more sweeping affects to banish enchantments wholesale. My deck seems best when i get steel leaf out in turn 2, but card draw luck doesnt always set that up. Maybe if i splash red i cant get more haste creatures out to smash before a response occurs, I dont know. Green doesnt seem to have as many of its old tricks as it used to.
would it be an idea to play one of each black and red and white and red duals which come into play tapped unless you control a standard white and/or black land along with one or two copies of Banefire?
Running this in Blue could probably do something about River's Rebuke and Cleansing Nova being an instant loss... maybe running it in a Dimir shell would work?
That small pause at the end of turn after you made all those tokens in that second game I was like do they have Fiery Cannonade? Nope. But they unfortunately did have Settle. Didn't make a lick of difference, but still
Actually you seem to have all the time in the world in this deck maybe just put in a sideboard of banefire as well as a few counterspells to stop the cards that cause you to insta lose and then add in a few of that black card that lets you choose a card from your side board
why not put in a token march of the multitudes or similar generator that is more effiecient than the dawn? keep the dawn of course but why not a better generator for when you kick off?
Dawn of Hope has the advantage of both functioning as a card draw engine and a finisher. A pure token maker would only help close out the game and doesn't help in the initial phase, so it would be a bad card in our opening hand.
@@LegenVD What about exchanging the orzhov taplands for at least 1-2 extra towers? Sure, once the shockland gets in with the next release, they would go out anyway, but it could be a possible change in the meantime... right?
You know Shalai might be better than Lyra here to give you hexproof against threats like lotleth giant and red burn decks. She also protects your Gateway from Trophy. Here's the combo idea -- Helm of the Host plus Shalai = you and all your perms gain hexproof.
I love this one. It is fun. But LVD, can you also make videos for decks that get constantly voted 2nd place for their fans as well? It feels frustrated when seeing the Baros Angel deck is overrun by the new competitors again and again and guessing maybe it will finally disappear without being cast. I don't mean to argue about your way to make videos, but I guess I am not the only one who loves angels. Please!
Don't take this as an absolute, but I've read an article that says drafting doesn't really gain you all that much, especially if you're bad at it. It suggested that the best way to go about it would be to focus your efforts on one particular deck you really like and use the gold from the daily quest and wins to enter constructed events (500g entry). Regardless of how many you win, or even if you don't win a single game, you get reimbursed some (or all if you win enough) of your gold and you get some additional cards. Needless to say, in order to do well in constructed, you're going to need at least one decent deck but there are plenty of cheap deck ideas out there that hold their own in competitive play. That way, you expand your card roster without losing too many precious income resources. At 500g per entry, this is the cheapest way to learn how to play the game while still getting some cards for your efforts. Once your library has expanded to a point where you can create multiple decent decks and you feel like you have a better grasp of the game in general, you can start adventuring into the other game modes more and more. But again, take this as a suggestion and not an absolute. Some people love drafting simply because of the concept of creating your own deck from scratch and seeing how it holds up against those of others. If it's pure value you're looking for, you're probably gonna wanna stay away from drafting for a bit until you build up your collection and knowledge of the game some.
I would recommend trying to get better at drafting. Drafting teaches you a ton of lessons in how to play magic and will make you a better overall player. If you get the hang of it and just don't like limited then by all means jam constructed events/buying packs, but I think you should give drafting a good shake if for no other reason than to make you a better player.
@@Xylarxcode Drafting is the best way to build your collection. You should only play quick draft and even if you go 0 wins you still make profit as a new player. Constructed event is great to farm gold but not the best way to build a collection. I am playing since a month and I put 50€ in packs which was a huge mistake imo. I mostly play CE and I only have 2 good budget decks to play so I would not say CE is the fastest way
Watch the video by Noxious on how to spend your gold / gems efficiently. There's an entire article which breaks down the different game modes by value. DON'T DO COMPETITIVE DRAFT (1500 gem entry).
This deck seems incredibly cool but some interactions in mtga are still far too clunky. Like thousand year storm and all the animations, ajani dude who gets +1/1 when you gain life (esp. with two or more in play), and dawn + azor
They should allow people to select cards they want to allow auto resolve. So like the enemy can select 'auto resolve' on your dawn. Or even have it in the in-game settings, like an auto-resolve section full of cards you want to allow or disallow auto resolve
The main downside of this deck - insta concede against any deck with counterspells, you won't jam mastery against control so your main combo - gain life with mastery won't work
no one prevents you from running counterspells in this deck, counter the counter, besides you should be running counterspells anyway since there are at least 3, possibly more cards which are instant loss for Lich when they resolve
It's an interesting deck, but I'd never want to play it. The fact that you have 0 counterspells in your deck means you're basically guaranteed lose to anyone with Cleansing Nova or Discovery/Dispersal in their deck (both commonly-played cards) and the possibility of losing like that and having nothing you can do about it would drive me nuts.
The Gateway is just soooo slow... 4 Banefires would probably accelerate the games by 2-3 times, since you would only need 2-3 of them for a kill without any mana from Gates, and they are uncounterable unlike Gate which can be countered or destroyed at any time
@@RaawHax Like I said it only makes your loss more likely. Unless you are down a game and on the clock there is no defendable reason (or if you know your opponents deck by heart) unlikely in arena on both counts.
@@yanish00 If it's blue you may want to look for a time when the opponent is tapped out to jam Lich's Mastery, or you may never get to resolve it as he beats your face in with Doom Whisperers, even though you may be in a good position at the time when you can resolve it. But then again, deck is probably not favoured overall against blue.
i believe you would have done even better if you allowed him to face attack you a few rounds not like having a possitve life totlly matters if your liching anyways
You are doing this wrong. You need banefire, chance for glory, the mirari conjecture, and there is a white epic that allows you to exchange life totals with the opponent on your upkeep- which puts him in range for the banefire. Someone just did it to me.
You're right, those boards of 19+ tokens weren't a win condition, they were just a bunch of little weenies... that one-shot the opponent when they connected... and won him the game...
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Put one Banefire in this deck. Set the gateway to red mana and cast with 60 or more mana the banefire. Profit.
yup and it's a lot faster than creating so many tokens
or e could just use divine visitation and end the game much faster ...
u can also throw in 4 chance for glory once u splash red
This deck seems very aggravating to play against, but at least it isn't blue.
"Hey guys, here's my Orzhov Lich's Mastery deck, splashing blue for Teferi..."
Until you cast dispersal and they lose
Hadee Lone Lich's Mastery has hexproof
@@thedragonoffice8070 well you see, dispersal is not targeted
Hadee Lone I read ya sentence wrong, there happens to be a card named Disperse and I thought you said that. Yeah, dispersal is a decently common card so I feel like you'd lose from someone casting it somewhat often.
Thanks for the educational vid @LegenVD! I opened two Lich's Mastery and was looking for a deck that was less cost-intensive and now, I've found it!
You could also always create tokens to exile with Mastery if you really need to
One or two banefires in the deck would make your win condition much cleaner.
the win con on this seemed to take forever.
That's only because people don't know when to scoop it up. "I know I'm 0% to win this game, but they might die of a heart attack".
@@cms53 or they might make a punishable misplay like LegenVD did twice in the last game.
Great video and cool deck again. Im just itching to sort out your hand though
The 5 colour Lich's Mastery I've seen floating around, with Mirari Conjecture, Chance for Glory, Mastermind's Acquisition and Banefire seems more viable and less painful to close out once you go off
It's the most degenerate broken gimmicke deck for the mastery I've seen so far. Thanks a lot, I've spent an hour watching this. My night will be lich filled.
I love your content though
Hmmm. The "Dispersal" mode of the Discovery/Dispersal also is instant death for the Mastery.
Forgot to mention that one.
Damn, and both were printed after lich's mastery. Maybe Wizards wanted lich's mastery players to have to buy a new deck lol.
@@obesechicken13 No one prevents you from running counterspells. If you have 20 cards in hand the chances one of them being a counterspell should be extremely high.
That was insane. Good deck!
Brave.. not playing blue to counter Nova Cleansing and/or Dispersal :P
I feel like Divine Visitation might be a good addition to the deck
Could be, although it doesn't do much unless you also draw Dawn of Hope. Feels a little win-more.
@@LegenVD It feels like it makes your dawn of hope way more mana efficient though. you don't have to rely on flipping the azore's gatway. because now you get 4/4 evasion creatures with each activation of the dawn of hope. that's 4x the damage through the air, will make games go a lot faster. because losing the gateaway takes you back what up to 4 turns?
I love that card, lich mastery. Love the art, name and all of it. I have faith in it lol, need to buy one now which is probably cheap just to have it. Maybe it can be a thing one day with some combo in EDH, no idea
5 color lich deck already one a standart tournament.
Can someone help? I enjoy building green decks, more or less. Im happy when im playing with creatures.
How do i answer a deck like this?
I cant think of much other than having a couple indestructible creatures, which there are few. And all of the anti-enchantment cards i can think of would get bounced off the hexproof of lich.
And its seems the instants and sorceries that give all creatures indestructible are now out of rotation.
I know control is real strong right now, but how would i stay afloat with a creature heavy deck with decks like this?
Your best bet is just trying to get as much damage in as fast as possible and hope to dodge a timely sweeper. More carddraw like Beast Whisperer and Vivien could provide more creatures to recover from all the removal. You can eventually force them to sacrifice permanents when they have Mastery in play.
@@LegenVD thanks so much for the reply, really appreciate it. I do run beast whisperer and vivien, and could stand to run one more whisperer. I just wish green had a couple more sweeping affects to banish enchantments wholesale. My deck seems best when i get steel leaf out in turn 2, but card draw luck doesnt always set that up. Maybe if i splash red i cant get more haste creatures out to smash before a response occurs, I dont know. Green doesnt seem to have as many of its old tricks as it used to.
would it be an idea to play one of each black and red and white and red duals which come into play tapped unless you control a standard white and/or black land along with one or two copies of Banefire?
That last game was such a grind!!!
Sweet deck, but the Lyra inclusion seems odd to me. It opens you up to creature removal which your deck is otherwise immune to.
It's better as a sideboard card, but some decks just can't deal with her very well so you get easy wins.
Running this in Blue could probably do something about River's Rebuke and Cleansing Nova being an instant loss... maybe running it in a Dimir shell would work?
That small pause at the end of turn after you made all those tokens in that second game I was like do they have Fiery Cannonade?
Nope. But they unfortunately did have Settle. Didn't make a lick of difference, but still
good video. keep them coming
I wanted this video as soon as I saw this mad card while scrolling around all the black cards I don't have
That Elton John quote at the end :)
Man you are a genious nice deck!!
Reliquary and Fountain are amazingly helpful for my mill
What would a sideboard to this deck look like?
Would you consider adding banefire as a finisher since you can likely draw your whole deck anyways
I feel like it is cleaner than the tokens
Actually you seem to have all the time in the world in this deck maybe just put in a sideboard of banefire as well as a few counterspells to stop the cards that cause you to insta lose and then add in a few of that black card that lets you choose a card from your side board
why not put in a token march of the multitudes or similar generator that is more effiecient than the dawn? keep the dawn of course but why not a better generator for when you kick off?
Dawn of Hope has the advantage of both functioning as a card draw engine and a finisher.
A pure token maker would only help close out the game and doesn't help in the initial phase, so it would be a bad card in our opening hand.
1 or 2 copies of divine visitation could be good as well for end game threat
why not divine vistation instead of lyras
With the amount of life gain here wouldn't an opponent die long before you can cast Lich if you had 4 Epicure of Blood?
Also no Banefire?
We could add more cards to help us win the game, but drawing those cards early in the game can be detrimental, as they don't help us stay alive.
Yes it is very aggravating to play against. Especially with this pilot! GG
GGs!
why only one Reli Tower, its not legendary?
Mostly because we need lots of colored mana.
@@LegenVD What about exchanging the orzhov taplands for at least 1-2 extra towers? Sure, once the shockland gets in with the next release, they would go out anyway, but it could be a possible change in the meantime... right?
You know Shalai might be better than Lyra here to give you hexproof against threats like lotleth giant and red burn decks. She also protects your Gateway from Trophy. Here's the combo idea -- Helm of the Host plus Shalai = you and all your perms gain hexproof.
Made similar deck with cats and vampires. It is fun when it goes off... if it goes off
help us slobs build a deck that can fight 3 color control as in Grixis and Jeski
No needs for reliquary tower I see..?
There's 1 in the deck.
Omg old standard is so fair
"Hitting for 5, which is a lot"
Yeah uh huh thats turn two with champions now. Glad to see arena hasn't disheartened you
I love this one. It is fun. But LVD, can you also make videos for decks that get constantly voted 2nd place for their fans as well? It feels frustrated when seeing the Baros Angel deck is overrun by the new competitors again and again and guessing maybe it will finally disappear without being cast. I don't mean to argue about your way to make videos, but I guess I am not the only one who loves angels. Please!
Don't think it will take much longer for it to be featured.
What a toxic deck, love it 😀
Am a super new player. ! month playing MTG arena. I kinda suck at drafting. If I had like 20000 gems. How would you advise to spend those gems ?
With that many gems it is a good advice to learn how to draft. If you get decent at it you can make a lot more than just buying packs.
Don't take this as an absolute, but I've read an article that says drafting doesn't really gain you all that much, especially if you're bad at it. It suggested that the best way to go about it would be to focus your efforts on one particular deck you really like and use the gold from the daily quest and wins to enter constructed events (500g entry). Regardless of how many you win, or even if you don't win a single game, you get reimbursed some (or all if you win enough) of your gold and you get some additional cards. Needless to say, in order to do well in constructed, you're going to need at least one decent deck but there are plenty of cheap deck ideas out there that hold their own in competitive play. That way, you expand your card roster without losing too many precious income resources. At 500g per entry, this is the cheapest way to learn how to play the game while still getting some cards for your efforts. Once your library has expanded to a point where you can create multiple decent decks and you feel like you have a better grasp of the game in general, you can start adventuring into the other game modes more and more.
But again, take this as a suggestion and not an absolute. Some people love drafting simply because of the concept of creating your own deck from scratch and seeing how it holds up against those of others. If it's pure value you're looking for, you're probably gonna wanna stay away from drafting for a bit until you build up your collection and knowledge of the game some.
I would recommend trying to get better at drafting. Drafting teaches you a ton of lessons in how to play magic and will make you a better overall player. If you get the hang of it and just don't like limited then by all means jam constructed events/buying packs, but I think you should give drafting a good shake if for no other reason than to make you a better player.
@@Xylarxcode Drafting is the best way to build your collection. You should only play quick draft and even if you go 0 wins you still make profit as a new player. Constructed event is great to farm gold but not the best way to build a collection. I am playing since a month and I put 50€ in packs which was a huge mistake imo. I mostly play CE and I only have 2 good budget decks to play so I would not say CE is the fastest way
Watch the video by Noxious on how to spend your gold / gems efficiently. There's an entire article which breaks down the different game modes by value. DON'T DO COMPETITIVE DRAFT (1500 gem entry).
2nd game, don't draw lich's mastery until the end. 3rd game draw all the lich's masteries.
This deck seems incredibly cool but some interactions in mtga are still far too clunky. Like thousand year storm and all the animations, ajani dude who gets +1/1 when you gain life (esp. with two or more in play), and dawn + azor
Once they fix it I'll definitely start playing decks like this
They should allow people to select cards they want to allow auto resolve. So like the enemy can select 'auto resolve' on your dawn. Or even have it in the in-game settings, like an auto-resolve section full of cards you want to allow or disallow auto resolve
The main downside of this deck - insta concede against any deck with counterspells, you won't jam mastery against control so your main combo - gain life with mastery won't work
no one prevents you from running counterspells in this deck, counter the counter, besides you should be running counterspells anyway since there are at least 3, possibly more cards which are instant loss for Lich when they resolve
Анатолий Геннадьевич every deck falls over and dies to Blue.
i remmebmer youy from other game cards hi dudes!
It's an interesting deck, but I'd never want to play it. The fact that you have 0 counterspells in your deck means you're basically guaranteed lose to anyone with Cleansing Nova or Discovery/Dispersal in their deck (both commonly-played cards) and the possibility of losing like that and having nothing you can do about it would drive me nuts.
I feel like once you hit 40 life id just give up
damn!!! 85 health points??? !!! O_O wow!
The Gateway is just soooo slow... 4 Banefires would probably accelerate the games by 2-3 times, since you would only need 2-3 of them for a kill without any mana from Gates, and they are uncounterable unlike Gate which can be countered or destroyed at any time
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If you are winning super hard, I see no reason to play lichs mastery... It only makes you lose vs removal (that can actually hit it.)
2/3 mana draw 4/5 to accelerate the game
@@RaawHax Like I said it only makes your loss more likely. Unless you are down a game and on the clock there is no defendable reason (or if you know your opponents deck by heart) unlikely in arena on both counts.
@@yanish00 If it's blue you may want to look for a time when the opponent is tapped out to jam Lich's Mastery, or you may never get to resolve it as he beats your face in with Doom Whisperers, even though you may be in a good position at the time when you can resolve it. But then again, deck is probably not favoured overall against blue.
i believe you would have done even better if you allowed him to face attack you a few rounds not like having a possitve life totlly matters if your liching anyways
You are doing this wrong. You need banefire, chance for glory, the mirari conjecture, and there is a white epic that allows you to exchange life totals with the opponent on your upkeep- which puts him in range for the banefire. Someone just did it to me.
That's a completely different deck.
This deck would be better if it had some way of getting a card advantage over your opponent. Haha.
That's why he's running 4x fountain of renewal and 4x dawn of hope. Drawing 2+ cards a turn indefinitely is serious card advantage.
@@davidlovesyeshua r/whooosh
@@Lastielion Yeah, I did kind of misread your comment entirely... XD
Maybe add a victory condition
You're right, those boards of 19+ tokens weren't a win condition, they were just a bunch of little weenies... that one-shot the opponent when they connected... and won him the game...
long time to kill a defenseless player
Wow what a impractical and useless deck. This deck probablly loses 90% of the games u play