Literally the reason I'm here rn is because my mom was playing Melanie Martinez, brain and heart came on, and I needed to share this song because I say brain and heart sounds like piggyback every time it comes on, but she'd never heard piggyback before
I dedicate this song to two people I considered my best friends, but soon accused me of fake shit and proceeded to leak my address and my phone number. 😍💃🏻
I cried because I had a toxic friend that would take a advantage of the fact that I’m a people pleaser cause they knew I have a hard time to saying no and also start drama because they knew I had a very hard time standing up for myself and manipulated me for such a long time I’m so glad I’m out of that toxic relationship
It's kinda sad how alot people are like "this kinda sounds like brain & heart" When they didn't realize Melanie's pain. These lyrics talk about Timothy heller. To the people who don't know what she did I'll give a small explanation: ( TW: SENSITIVE TOPICS) So Melanie Martinez and Timothy Heller were friends until like 2017 ( like june or December) Timothy posted a tweet about Melanie on s3xu@lly h@rssing her. And people believed her because her explanation were like very long ( she said mel did it at a 2 day sleepover) but the dates didn't really make sense cuz mel was touring in new york. At the end Melanie was proved innocent and that Timothy was jealous of her fame and that her "mental problem" Made her do it ( she has BPD) and even clamied that Melanie's song paicfy her was originally written by her. ~thats all~
I don't understand why you are calling them out and taking offense to what they said, they were just expressing how the song made them feel listening to it. That's what people do when they listen to music.
This is blatant information Melanie literally admitted it happened and said verbatim “she never said no to what we chose to do together” which is very predatory bc just bc someone doesn’t say no doesn’t mean they consented
@@saramclougglin61you’re not reading the sentence right.. if they both consented then it isn’t SA. if timothy was drunk or asleep then it would count but she gave her consent and timothy admitted to lying.
I feel conflicted now that more time has passed between the original allegations. Melanie's music, image, and persona deeply resonate with me and have for almost a 10 years now (which is crazy to say, I just got into her fandom very young) When the allegations first came out in 2017 I was in middle school. I loved Melanie and had incorporated aspects of her brand into my identity. I didnt believe Timothy at all, but less because of inconsistencies with the allegation but because I wanted to be "allowed" to listen to her again. Now I'm old enough to be heading towards college, and my opinions have shifted. SA is a complicated crime, victims often push down details and give perpetrators the benefit of the doubt in an effort to maintain their relationships and friendships. Even the lyrics in this song could be interpreted as tropes often used against women who were sexually assaulted. Paraphasing of course, "I'm the real victim here," "She came out with it for the money/the fame." These are used routinely against victims of rape. I'm not saying anyone who loves Melanie is a bad person, because I love her brand too. But theres some cognative dissonance here that you have to be aware of. Whether you believe the allegations or not, at least allow the victim to exist of social media without being mentioned to harassed too often. Consider, if she was telling the truth, how stressful it would be to be another SA victim watching this play out in real time. The dismissive remarks, people defending your abuser. Its terrifying. Again, I've considered myself a crybaby since I was 9. I found Melanie's music through a goddamn Ever After High Dressup Game. I still remember, the song was Mad Hatter. I was like "Damn this is kinda good" and it spiraled from there. No one wants to give up things they like, or feel like a bad person from liking it. I just want fans to look at the nuances of the situation.
0:40 The line sounds like its about her best friend Jackie (Jacqueline) that she's still friends with since 5yrs old Edit cuz 70 likes: 1:09 is Mel saying she unfriended Timothy I think (idrk) 1:18 this part is where Mel said "still sending love I wish you/her(?) the best
@@Littlemissbevy you are taking it out of context. If you read timothy's statement she says she said NO mel reply's to this and says she didn't say no and "WE" chose to do what we did like think about it she is replying to what timothy said so you cant just read her statement without reading timothy's. cancel culture is insane! I believe mel is innocent
@@violentlyawkwardhaha yeah, Mel released this right after the allegations came through before disappearing from the internet because a lot of her fans were burning her merch on video.
So half of us here are here bc of timothy and mel? Well this is what i got from it - (this is not me writing btw, i just copy and paste) - To ALL the people who keep saying "She didn't say no- Melanie" Here is EXACTLY what she said. "am horrified and saddened by the statements and story told tonight by Timothy Heller. What she and I shared was a close friendship for a period of time. We came into each other's lives as we were both starting our careers as artists, and we tried to help each other. We both had pain in dealing with our individual demons and the new paths we were forging, but I truly felt we were trying'" to lift each other up. She never said no what we chose to do together. And although we parted ways, I am sending her love and light always. " So stop only putting that when you know that's not what she said. Im on no ones sides until someone clears this up or mel clears this up because i know for a FACT that 🍇 is wrong but i dont know if this is 100% true right now, so im not gonna belive either sides until Melanie or someone else clears this up. If some or you have any info please tell me for i can add on! Thank you for listening. Another edit because i got more info that i copy and paste from a video description! - 7/27/2018: the point isn't that heller and martinez stayed friends after the assault. the point is that heller LIED and said they stopped being friends in 2016. here's proof they were friends in 2017: (video) • TIMOTHY HELLER EXPOSED (LYING AG... if she has nothing to hide, there's no reason to lie. please remember occam's razor, and that all of these points work together to create one picture. most of these things alone prove nothing, but when they're all viewed together like parts of a machine, it's enough to convince me that martinez is innocent. ----- that video was from @The Crow Formerly Known As Piper Sweeney ---- (- thats one part but that wasnt me that said that, but im not on anyones sides right now even if i love melanie.) P.s. dont go after me from this comment. And i made a playlist regarding all of this. I dont know if this is true yet, so.
It will not be cleared up because mel clearly will never admit to SA. Be real w/ me if this was Mel saying Timothy SA'd her, whos side would you be on?
@@StrawBerrys.are.fUn222 mel drew cp of her combined with crybaby flashing her tatas, and got asked what her favorite icarly ep was and said topless, her drawings of kids are weird, and her tmblr post have age play.
Btw,timothy is messing up the story One time she said that Melanie SA'd her in bed The other time she said she SA'd her in a s3x game One time she said that Melanie was the one that bought the game The other time she said that she was the one who bought the game for the sleepover And she messed up the date and wants us to believe that her icloud or idfk is "fucked up" And she has no proof that Melanie really did anything And before you say that Melanie said "she never said no" try to read the complete sentence "she never said no to what WE chose to do together" And timothy is a racist and has said the n-word multiple times and a Nazi keep in mind that Melanie's real hair in May was bluish purple and black, her hair going from late May-June was blonde and black. we know this is her real hair because Timothy backs this up saying "I've never known Melanie to wear extensions, when you see her with long hair it's a wig." all of her short hair in that time proves it was blue in May and blonde in July. I'm gonna take this a step further and tell you that her iCloud was not glitched; the images show May 6, which is the exact and only day Melanie wore that outfit with that hair color (we know this via her instagram posts). if it was on June 25th like she said, Mel's hair would've been blonde, wig or not. and no this isn't a mental block thing, as someone who has been through mental block from experiences, it's very hard to believe her when the dates are right in her face
Going back and tried relistening to this song, I couldn't take how much the world hated Melanie by that time that gave hindrance to her success. SHE WAS INNOCENT ALL THIS TIME, YET PEOPLE WAS SO BLINDSIDED BY LIES.
It's not drama. It's rape allegations. That is not "drama", that's something that should be taken incrsdibly seriously unlike what Melanie fans are doing. Good to know you're all rapists suporters and would doxx someone for peaking up about their traumatix experiences. Will not be associating with any of you in the future
@@lawesy71I mean, why isn't Melanie speaking about about them. The only time she did was in one tweet where she said 'she didn't say no'. As far as I'm concerned, if these things arent true, then Melanie should come forward and say something. I've been listening to her for a long time, and I love her music, but I cannot stomach how the fandom and her are treating someone who could potentially be a victim.
I find it weird how Timothy Heller somehow popped up and said this situation again. I'm on MELANIE MARTINEZ side for now. Until further investigation on BOTH stories and sides. For now, I'm on Melanie Martinez. I find it weird and strange how this situation was brought up again.
came here because of the accusations which is sad- it doesn't sound like she's mocking her- it's just in general of ppl not just her. but then again we don't know, we have little to no evidence to this situation so we don't know what's true and what's not but i personally think they should of taken it to court or something and not of ran to the internet.
i came back to listen to this because timothy posted about this again. im on melanies side but i do feel bad that everything personal abt timothy got leaked. thats just wrong to leack her information
Btw,timothy is messing up the story One time she said that Melanie SA'd her in bed The other time she said she SA'd her in a s3x game One time she said that Melanie was the one that bought the game The other time she said that she was the one who bought the game for the sleepover And she messed up the date and wants us to believe that her icloud or idfk is "fucked up" And she has no proof that Melanie really did anything And before you say that Melanie said "she never said no" try to read the complete sentence "she never said no to what WE chose to do together" And timothy is a racist and has said the n-word multiple times and a Nazi keep in mind that Melanie's real hair in May was bluish purple and black, her hair going from late May-June was blonde and black. we know this is her real hair because Timothy backs this up saying "I've never known Melanie to wear extensions, when you see her with long hair it's a wig." all of her short hair in that time proves it was blue in May and blonde in July. I'm gonna take this a step further and tell you that her iCloud was not glitched; the images show May 6, which is the exact and only day Melanie wore that outfit with that hair color (we know this via her instagram posts). if it was on June 25th like she said, Mel's hair would've been blonde, wig or not. and no this isn't a mental block thing, as someone who has been through mental block from experiences, it's very hard to believe her when the dates are right in her face.
@@alternatemars8350 the comment seems deleted i will copy paste it again Btw,timothy is messing up the story One time she said that Melanie SA'd her in bed The other time she said she SA'd her in a s3x game One time she said that Melanie was the one that bought the game The other time she said that she was the one who bought the game for the sleepover And she messed up the date and wants us to believe that her icloud or idfk is "fucked up" And she has no proof that Melanie really did anything And before you say that Melanie said "she never said no" try to read the complete sentence "she never said no to what WE chose to do together" And timothy is a racist and has said the n-word multiple times and a Nazi keep in mind that Melanie's real hair in May was bluish purple and black, her hair going from late May-June was blonde and black. we know this is her real hair because Timothy backs this up saying "I've never known Melanie to wear extensions, when you see her with long hair it's a wig." all of her short hair in that time proves it was blue in May and blonde in July. I'm gonna take this a step further and tell you that her iCloud was not glitched; the images show May 6, which is the exact and only day Melanie wore that outfit with that hair color (we know this via her instagram posts). if it was on June 25th like she said, Mel's hair would've been blonde, wig or not. and no this isn't a mental block thing, as someone who has been through mental block from experiences, it's very hard to believe her when the dates are right in her face.
But that's just one photo, it doesn't disprove anything really. And it can be hard to recount abuse or assault, especially with the time thats passed. As far as I'm concerned, she wouldn't really be coming back with these allegations if the Crybaby and earthling fandom would leave Timothy the f alone. Timothy even said that she was trying to move on after everything had happened, but the fandom just will not stop. They relentlessly attack her, and I'm not gonna lie, but even if these things aren't true, they're being just absolutely horrendous. Im a fan of Melanie's music but I am not taking her side. Nor will i take Timothy's side, until the truth comes out with ACTUAL concrete evidence. If what Timothy says is a lie, then that's a really shitty thing to do and she needs to woman up and own her mistakes and reflect. But if what she's saying is true, then Melanie as well as her fandom, needs a real fricking reflection on the things that they've done and said to her, especially the fandom.
Ran here after watching Louis McClugs vid on this, and I am glad that I moved on to more emo-like music like Pierce the Veil and Get Scared. I used to LOVE meline martiez, but now; the dark lyrics just make me uncomfortable with the kiddy like vibe. At least when my emo ass music talks about slightly heavier things, it is drowned out by heavy screams and heavy instruments-
Imo: Timothy restated the s/a allegations again and the dates dont line up when timothy accused melanie so i dont understand why timothy would accuse mel again instead of just taking the situation to court instead of posting it on social media. I dont think melanie will respond because she already adressed the information that timothy made. Also why are we bringing back something from 7 years ago? I say we just move on
The allegations are outside of the statue of limitations, meaning it is no longer considered a crime. Also often times police wont listen to people about SA cases, especially major celebs. You have clearly only looked at mels side. Timothy stated that her photos duplicated so she had the dates incorrect that is why it didnt line up. It wasnt just 7yrs ago some drama happened. it was 7 years of a ruined life for timothy. It was 7 years of being called a liar. Last but not least, its not your choice to decide when to move on. its important for people to own up to what they do, melanie has clearly shown she doesnt even know what consent is. If this was reversed and melanie came out saying she was SA'd by timothy, whos side would u be on?
@@Bloodied_Will You are dumb did you even read mels statement she knows what consent is she was replying to timothy's statement where she said that she was saying no and that she didn't want to mel is replying saying she didn't say no because timothy said she did say no and mel then says "WE CHOSE" that right there implies mutual consent its not her fault you don't understand English. also melanie could sue for defamation but she didn't because she still cared about timothy and wished her a good life like does that sound like someone who would just rape someone. Not only that but timothy said that she was SA"d and it ruined her life but then proceeds to do SEX WORK a SA victim doing sex work is wild like work at taco bell or mc donalds you don't have to do sex work i am not gonna believe someone like that.
Btw,timothy is messing up the story One time she said that Melanie SA'd her in bed The other time she said she SA'd her in a s3x game One time she said that Melanie was the one that bought the game The other time she said that she was the one who bought the game for the sleepover And she messed up the date and wants us to believe that her icloud or idfk is "fucked up" And she has no proof that Melanie really did anything And before you say that Melanie said "she never said no" try to read the complete sentence "she never said no to what WE chose to do together" And timothy is a racist and has said the n-word multiple times and a Nazi keep in mind that Melanie's real hair in May was bluish purple and black, her hair going from late May-June was blonde and black. we know this is her real hair because Timothy backs this up saying "I've never known Melanie to wear extensions, when you see her with long hair it's a wig." all of her short hair in that time proves it was blue in May and blonde in July. I'm gonna take this a step further and tell you that her iCloud was not glitched; the images show May 6, which is the exact and only day Melanie wore that outfit with that hair color (we know this via her instagram posts). if it was on June 25th like she said, Mel's hair would've been blonde, wig or not. and no this isn't a mental block thing, as someone who has been through mental block from experiences, it's very hard to believe her when the dates are right in her face
@@sun12146playlists not really.. the song was about how timothy falsely accused melanie of r@ping her 😭 it’s just an unusual thing to happen so i just thought it was odd
@@mathilde325yeah. The meaning of the song is fake friends accusing you of stuff you didn't do to ruin your reputation just for fame and attention ( specifically aimed at Timothy),
Btw,timothy is messing up the story One time she said that Melanie SA'd her in bed The other time she said she SA'd her in a s3x game One time she said that Melanie was the one that bought the game The other time she said that she was the one who bought the game for the sleepover And she messed up the date and wants us to believe that her icloud or idfk is "fucked up" And she has no proof that Melanie really did anything And before you say that Melanie said "she never said no" try to read the complete sentence "she never said no to what WE chose to do together" And timothy is a racist and has said the n-word multiple times and a Nazi keep in mind that Melanie's real hair in May was bluish purple and black, her hair going from late May-June was blonde and black. we know this is her real hair because Timothy backs this up saying "I've never known Melanie to wear extensions, when you see her with long hair it's a wig." all of her short hair in that time proves it was blue in May and blonde in July. I'm gonna take this a step further and tell you that her iCloud was not glitched; the images show May 6, which is the exact and only day Melanie wore that outfit with that hair color (we know this via her instagram posts). if it was on June 25th like she said, Mel's hair would've been blonde, wig or not. and no this isn't a mental block thing, as someone who has been through mental block from experiences, it's very hard to believe her when the dates are right in her face
Some lyrics are going a way of adding Timothy into this and the whole drama that happened and if you don’t understand let me tell you.. so basically Timothy is Melanie’s best friend or used to, Timothy got a game and asked Melanie to do it with her, Melanie said yes and keep in mind they both agreed to do it, it was a sexual game and then later on a few days later she made a lie online and said that “Melanie raped me” even though she never had any proof, I mean, Melanie would never do that, many fans have said this song was based on her and it is based on Timothy. She didn’t wanna take it to court because Melanie is famous .. and she doesn’t have any proof about it. Not to mention the fact she didn’t talk about this ASAP to the police. If it’s that serious why wait two years? The internet can’t solve your problems.. it’s obviously fake and the fact Melanie fans are believing this. 2 years is a long time and now you finally wanna rage about it. And Melanie fans are literally Destroying their merch because of this. Timothy has also raged about other artists to bring their fame down, like she did to Billie . And was racist to a black rapper. And on the other hand Melanie has more proof about this. If your really sensitive you should’ve said no in the first place. Timothy stated that she didn’t want to and tried to say no multiple times and this is the time you know to call the police about this situation but no, CLEARLY the internet can’t help you. She did this to herself and now she gets hate. Honestly deserves it, Timothy is a faker and says how she wants to grow her fame with her songs, like- No! You can’t expect to grow your fame fighting with a more popular artist and expect to be liked by people who find you fake. “But oh! What if what Timothy said is real?????” I doubt that, it’s been 9 YEARS! and none of her accusations have been found true. Btw sorry if anything is wrong
a lot of earthlings immediately defend melanie bc they’ve put her on a pedestal and timothy’s r@pe accusations just shatter that perfect image they have of them
Until Melanie is proved innocent or guilty, none of us should directly support her. Although we might never know since they were the only ones in that moment, it's better to listen to the victim rather than chase them off the internet again. I do think Melanie could've handled this better back then though. Making a song isn't exactly good when it comes to allegations like this
@@kallyywallyyshe might of took it to court, if you take it to court you can't talk about it on social media plus shes really busy making new music and going on tour !!x
@@livxplayzz i'm pretty sure if i'm not mistaken that she can talk abt it after the process is over tho... so if she did we would like to know. i hope we will get more information afterwards.
@@kallyywallyy Even though they might’ve gone to court, Theres something called NDA’s (non-disclosure agreements) Basically a law, where you can’t talk about anything that happened in court. She could’ve filed a NDA.
Btw,timothy is messing up the story One time she said that Melanie SA'd her in bed The other time she said she SA'd her in a s3x game One time she said that Melanie was the one that bought the game The other time she said that she was the one who bought the game for the sleepover And she messed up the date and wants us to believe that her icloud or idfk is "fucked up" And she has no proof that Melanie really did anything And before you say that Melanie said "she never said no" try to read the complete sentence "she never said no to what WE chose to do together" And timothy is a racist and has said the n-word multiple times and a Nazi keep in mind that Melanie's real hair in May was bluish purple and black, her hair going from late May-June was blonde and black. we know this is her real hair because Timothy backs this up saying "I've never known Melanie to wear extensions, when you see her with long hair it's a wig." all of her short hair in that time proves it was blue in May and blonde in July. I'm gonna take this a step further and tell you that her iCloud was not glitched; the images show May 6, which is the exact and only day Melanie wore that outfit with that hair color (we know this via her instagram posts). if it was on June 25th like she said, Mel's hair would've been blonde, wig or not. and no this isn't a mental block thing, as someone who has been through mental block from experiences, it's very hard to believe her when the dates are right in her face
this may sound like brain & heart but guys dont realize that melanie wrote this song before they wrote brain & heart. they then deleted it because of the drama. they couldve used like the same beat from this song and just wrote brain & heart using it. (idk if this makes sense i suck at explaining)
Same... Both Melanie and Timothy are hard to believe... I hope it's not true but honestly it's not looking good... You can continue to listen to her music without supporting what she's done though!
Btw,timothy is messing up the story One time she said that Melanie SA'd her in bed The other time she said she SA'd her in a s3x game One time she said that Melanie was the one that bought the game The other time she said that she was the one who bought the game for the sleepover And she messed up the date and wants us to believe that her images app or idfk is "fucked up" And she has no proof that Melanie really did anything And before you say that Melanie said "she never said no" try to read the complete sentence "she never said no to what WE chose to do together" And timothy is a racist and has said the n-word multiple times and a Nazi
Lyrics: I was three years old, All I wanted was the music and my parents were doing everything they could to move away from our place, working over time always while I sat up in my grandma's project building coloring, oh Moved to a small town and started to, started to grow Poetry written, I'm singing and dancing, oh Photographs, painting, cartoons That's all I know That's all I know, oh I have one best friend to this very fucking day since we were five years old And I fucking moved away I wish I never did cause she's the only one who sees me For who I really am instead of how many I reach, oh Trusted too many fake people while I was still young Gave them the benefit of the doubt, I was so wrong I cut them off and they came for blood 'cause they know They ain't getting no more I'm so done with playing piggyback, oh-oh Swear to god I wished y'all all the best, oh You're lying your way to try to gain a piece of me When you could never come close 'cause I know my destiny I worked hard for my shit Put my love in this shit Now you're trying to kill my name for some fame What is this? Tried to help you do your shit Encouraged you to work on it Was a good friend and you used that to your advantage Now I'm twenty two and I've had a crazy year of isolation from all the plastic people here I cannot wait for the day I can finally move away back to New York City Where the realest people really stayed, oh Oh, spent this whole time writing away my heart and my soul The people I surround myself with have hearts filled with gold Love and empathy are things that we hold so close Trying to learn and evolve I'm so done with playing piggyback, oh-oh Swear to god I wished y'all all the best, oh You're lying your way to try to gain a piece of me When you could never come close 'cause I know my destiny I worked hard for my shit Put my love in this shit Now you're trying to kill my name for some fame What is this? Tried to help you do your shit Encouraged you to work on it Was a good friend and you used that to your advantage I'm so done with playing piggyback, oh Swear to god I wished y'all all the best, oh You're lying your way to try to gain a piece of me When you could never come close 'cause I know my destiny
@@K1ki4realMelanie is an ASSHOLE for this song, allegations true or not. People were extremely ableist to Timothy because the allegations were “disproved” this just hyped them up more.
She didn’t want to make money off of it bc it was a dis track to her ex freind who made 🍇accusations on her. She didn’t want ppl to think she was trying to profit off it.
If anyone sees this comment - is it okay to listen to this song??? I know its technically released but I feel bad listening to it since its not officially released on her channel and stuff 😭😭 i just want clarification whether its 100% okay to listen to
Basically, for me I think that was more of a thing between them and Timothy shouldn’t put it on Tiktok. She could’ve gone to court but she didn’t. 🤷♀️
Imagine you were traumatised by someone who has a MASSIVE public platform and WEALTH (from scamming her fans but that's another thing). Would it be easy for you to just take them ro court? You would have to describe and talk about what happened over and over and it woould cost you massive amounts of money. Going to court over traumatic crimes like these is VERY hard for people. Y'all just want to excuse rape.
y'all can attack me for this, idgaf. all of this is coming from a former fan of melanie martinez. it's always "she got the dates wrong!!" melanie quite literally said that it happened herself. "she's a bad person!!" that doesn't matter at all. the majority of the things she supposedly did were made up by melanie fans and even if they were true, it doesn't mean she wasn't sexually assaulted. "sarah morgan exposed her!!" she isn't even a real person. "she dressed up as melanie!!" many victims stay friends with their abusers after it happens. some even stay dating or are forced to live with them. timothy explained that she was still friends with melanie at the time and was on tour with her when the pictures were taken. (update: i found out that those pictures were taken before the allegations even came out.) "she promoted her music after making the accusations!!" she released her song months before. "she didn't go to the police or court!!" what would the police be able to do without evidence? the legal system treats sexual assault cases horribly, especially when it's women on women. most sa cases don't have any evidence. and if timothy really is lying, why hasn't melanie sued her for defamation? "timothy bought the game!!" yeah, as a joke. she never consented to having actual sex. "melanie was in the handcuffs!!" ever heard of this thing that happens in games called taking turns? "melanie made songs about how rape is bad!!" hypocrisy is a thing that exists. "she's only speaking up now that melanie is more popular!!" no, she's speaking up now because she was ran off the internet. even if that were the case, why shouldn't she? her story deserves more recognition and support. not to mention there's this globelamp person who wasn't even actually friends with timothy and is an abuser herself. several friends of mine were sexually assaulted, you gonna tell them that they're lying too? they can't remember the dates or when it happened so i guess that means they're clearly lying. you're all just a bunch of victim blamers. it's very common for people who have been traumatized to not remember dates. and what about madeleine carina? y'all love to forget that she exists and that she was also sa'd. and before you bring up the whole "she said it was consensual!!" thing: if you have to be begged over and over again while you're intoxicated until you finally give in to having sex, then it's not consent, it's coercion, which is still a form of sexual assault. melanie also never even bothered to address what she said. another thing: why would timothy come back after years of harassment, being doxxed and getting sent death threats if all she wanted was "attention"? why would she put herself through all of that again if that were the case? she isn't gaining any "fame" from this, she's just receiving the same thing she did 7 years ago: being harassed by melanie's fanbase and getting called a "liar". everyone also just loves to ignore the fact that melanie changed her story. first she said that she did something with timothy and then backtracked on it when she thanked her fans for pointing out her "false" statements. did it happen or not? melanie's first statement is also horrendous. "she never said no" is abuser language. the full sentence does not matter because it doesn't change anything. if it isn't a definitive and enthusiastic yes, then it's a no, period. it's always "believe the victim!!" until it's timothy and madeleine.
Her story has changed so many times it’s disgusting. Went from “idk where this is coming from” to “nothing happened between us” to “what happened was consensual” then back to “she’s a liar and nothing happened at all” Stand with all victims. Especially those whose stories don’t change for the better part of a decade. Its stand with all victims until you like the perpetrators, until the perpetrators are attractive women. Imagine thinking ur so big it’s appropriate to drop a track in response to serious allegations.
How about you stop taking sides and just be on the other side which is not believing any of them, as most people had said it's between them two not us so stop involving yourself by picking sides its just going to start more drama and who knows this could end up to either of then going into a really bad mental state and probably end up harming themselves, that's probably why Mel hasn't said anything else about it because she doesn't want to end up harming herself because of people like you making the drama worse. So how about stop picking sides and causing more drama and leave it to them to sort it out on their own, we don't know what actually happened so we don't need to be involved. Come at me all you want but I don't care i'm standing by what I just said and I cba with dealing with people thinking because they know people who's been sa'd that they can "choose" sides and cause more drama then there already is.
@@paigefayeallen9802yeah no thanks i'd rather believe the victims instead of the rapist. if you're "neutral" you functionally support the abuser and i don't see how i'm making things worse by debunking all of the dumbass points melanie's fans make to discredit a victim's story. you clearly didn't bother to read through anything i wrote if your only takeaway was to tell me to "stay neutral". also i'm sorry but you referring to serious rape accusations as "drama" is disgusting. people like you are part of the problem. you can stay mad at me and this comment all you want but i'm standing with the victims and that's final.
@@yourlocalcr4ckdealer a victim is the targeted person who suffers from someone else's abuse or harmful behavior. We don't know who the victim is. If Timothy is lying, then Melanie is the victim. If Timothy is telling the truth, then Timothy is the victim. We don't know. You can't support the victim when you don't know who the victim is.
i think mel is innocent! for a very good reason. timothy heller said this when mel got popular for crybaby. and then timothy heller again states the SAME thing when mel got popular again for portals and the troliogy tour, timothy speaks the SAME THING FROM 2017, and from other people that expeireiced SA they dont decribe as much as timothy did because its either very sentive to them or private and the story sounds fishy all the sudden she wanted to ____ with her when there only friends? and mel even made a song about timothy faking the whole story... called piggyback and yall have to understand that mel insent gonna make a statement, because she has NOTHING NEW TO REPOND TO yall so thats why i think mel is innocent.
those are not good reasons at all 💀 first off, melanie has been popular for years and has had millions of fans since then. second, are victims not allowed to speak up about what they experienced anymore? yes, some of them choose to keep what happened to them private, but not every victim is the same. several of my friends are sexual assault victims that publicly speak about what they went through. lastly, making this song doesn't prove anything at all. her silence is also speaking volumes and just makes her look more guilty than anything.
@@yourlocalcr4ckdealer girl keep your opinions to yourself this is my opinion, second of all and mel got more popular when portals and troilogy tour. thats what i meant , third of all victims are ALLOWED TO SPEAK! i never said they were not allowed to. and she has nothing to talk about she aready said that in 2017 she dosent need to repond to it because she aready did. one more thing, My reasons are pretty good not perfect but they are reasonable you support who you want to this is my opinion.
@@TotallyNotAva1i mean you posted a comment in a public comment section under a public video... but okay lmao. if that's what you wanna believe then i can't stop you. melanie does have other allegations btw
Yes! I’ve seen so many people say “guilty until proven innocent” on this case and I was like “not according to the amendment” (I forgot which amendment it was)
we don't know for sure but me personally i believe timothy. why would tim be so dedicated to a lie when it's ruining her whole life? + melanie admitted that there were some things going on between the both of them... and she said "she didn't say no to what we chose to do together" which to me sounds like timothy didn't give a proper "yes" either... tim also claimed in her video that she did infact say no multiple times. i think it's kinda frustrating that mel won't take any accountability and make a proper statement... so that's why i'm siding with tim.
@@kallyywallyyfrrr… people need to think of it like this: Timothy already was drove off the internet and had her entire life ruined. Why would she bring it up again if nobody believed her anyways 😭😭
@@SupernovaFishsticks EXACTLY and it makes me so mad they are doing it to her AGAIN? like please just think abt how dumb it would be for her to lie abt it again after it ruined her life and still is ruining it?! 😭
Btw,timothy is messing up the story One time she said that Melanie SA'd her in bed The other time she said she SA'd her in a s3x game One time she said that Melanie was the one that bought the game The other time she said that she was the one who bought the game for the sleepover And she messed up the date and wants us to believe that her images app or idfk is "fucked up" And she has no proof that Melanie really did anything And before you say that Melanie said "she never said no" try to read the complete sentence "she never said no to what WE chose to do together" And timothy is a racist and has said the n-word multiple times and a Nazi
What do i do if mel is proved wrong, do i stop listening to her songs? I love her songs and the meanings but is it wrong of me to listen to them when mel is proved wrong?
if mel is proved to be a r%p1st, you can still listen to her music as long as you aren't directly supporting her. hold her accountable, don't listen to her music directly on stuff like spotify, listen to soundcloud or yt videos that aren't copyrighted (for example slowed / sped up songs), don't buy any merch unless its from a reseller, if you're watching k-12 then skip all ads cause mel makes money from those. also unfollow her on all social medias and just don't watch or support her content
Btw,timothy is messing up the story One time she said that Melanie SA'd her in bed The other time she said she SA'd her in a s3x game One time she said that Melanie was the one that bought the game The other time she said that she was the one who bought the game for the sleepover And she messed up the date and wants us to believe that her icloud or idfk is "fucked up" And she has no proof that Melanie really did anything And before you say that Melanie said "she never said no" try to read the complete sentence "she never said no to what WE chose to do together" And timothy is a racist and has said the n-word multiple times and a Nazi keep in mind that Melanie's real hair in May was bluish purple and black, her hair going from late May-June was blonde and black. we know this is her real hair because Timothy backs this up saying "I've never known Melanie to wear extensions, when you see her with long hair it's a wig." all of her short hair in that time proves it was blue in May and blonde in July. I'm gonna take this a step further and tell you that her iCloud was not glitched; the images show May 6, which is the exact and only day Melanie wore that outfit with that hair color (we know this via her instagram posts). if it was on June 25th like she said, Mel's hair would've been blonde, wig or not. and no this isn't a mental block thing, as someone who has been through mental block from experiences, it's very hard to believe her when the dates are right in her face
Always believe the victim until it’s your favorite celebrity i guess 😭 you have the ability to go find videos that explain the story in detail from an unbiased standpoint
@@MelanieMackey-ke9sg what a silly excuse! She's obviously autistic, so yes, of course, we autistics are weird. Music is a great coping mechanism. I write my songs the same way. Being weird isn't a problem. The problem is people who don't accept weirdos.
If you are on Timothy side, Melanie will be okay with that because its a old topic and the new topic is about the fanbase, Timothy had explained what had Mel's fanbase done to her its melanie herself doing this its the fanbase doing this
Btw,timothy is messing up the story One time she said that Melanie SA'd her in bed The other time she said she SA'd her in a s3x game One time she said that Melanie was the one that bought the game The other time she said that she was the one who bought the game for the sleepover And she messed up the date and wants us to believe that her images app or idfk is "fucked up" And she has no proof that Melanie really did anything And before you say that Melanie said "she never said no" try to read the complete sentence "she never said no to what WE chose to do together" And timothy is a racist and has said the n-word multiple times and a Nazi
![Unhappy Meal [lyrics] // Melanie Martinez](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/jNctsNwoNA4/mqdefault.jpg)
![Melanie Martinez - Fire Drill [Official Audio]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/EJ91yqDDkGw/mqdefault.jpg)
i love coming back to this song every once in awhile
Me coming back to this because Timothy randomly came back from radio silence
Me two
I don't believe Timothy tbh.. I'm on Melanie's side until further proven because its NOT right to accuse someone of something so raunchy.
same, timothys doing this as soon as mel got more recognition again. she did the same thing back in the crybaby tours
@@M1LK_0F_TH3_S1R3NS_M right!!! Thats what i was telling my partner because we're both on Melanie's side
@@user-tl8fw3zc3jor js dont take a side
"Trusted too many fake people while I was still young" Melanie is the best singer ever in my life
NAH FR
real
I just randomly remembered this song existed omfg 😭
Me too.
SO THIS IS THE SONG THATS REPEATED IN MY BRAIN FOR SO LONG NOW I FINALLY KNOW IT AND ITS FROM MY FAV ARTIST❤
Real
bitch me tooooo luve this songgg
Yall this kinda sounds like brain and heart
Yea the instrumental kinda sounds like it a bit
omg yeah
@Anoth3r_Day_Anoth3r_Slay someone made a mashup of brain and heart x piggy back but I forgot who it was, just search up piggy back x brain and heart
I knew it sounded familiar
Literally the reason I'm here rn is because my mom was playing Melanie Martinez, brain and heart came on, and I needed to share this song because I say brain and heart sounds like piggyback every time it comes on, but she'd never heard piggyback before
I love how every came running back to this song after tim came back HAHA
FRR
most likely bc she said it was a “disstrack” in her video 😭😭
@@mimicyn IKR its not a disstrack shes just singing her feelings most of it isnt even about her she just wants that fame and drama
I dedicate this song to two people I considered my best friends, but soon accused me of fake shit and proceeded to leak my address and my phone number. 😍💃🏻
I hope you're doing well now ❤️ that seems like a really painful situation.
@@jirachistar5373 Thank you so much, I'm doing a lot better!
@@carleighluvsariYw! I'm glad you're doing better❤️
Same but they leaked my social media and people came after me
@@BeanArmyLeaderI lost half of my friends with one of these incidents lol, that wasn't fun.
“I cut them off and they came for blood cause they know they ain’t getting no more” ok damn
"NEW YORK CITY WHERE THE REALEST PEOPLE REALLY STAAAAY" YESSSSSS ~
i object. my aunt in ny talked my grandma into selling the house i currently live in to the nextdoor neighbors.. TvT
and here they come
idc what yall say, this isn’t a diss track. this is just her side of the story.
Making a song instead of actually talking about and ADDRESSING her side of the story, is quite pathetic imo
@@ArzhellWoods she makes songs to express her feelings. you can tell she kind of is telling us some important details in this song
@@ArzhellWoods her team won’t let her speak, this is basically her only way.
@@sydneyzamora3530 Mhm, well imo I'd rather support a sa victim and be proven wrong then support a possible sa assaulter and be proven wrong
@@ArzhellWoods good for you i guess???
I never thought I would hear Melanie say yall
@@tobydeqt100this song is released what are you on?
@@RobLappinerm… they were quoting a time melanie said yall…
@@RobLappin i know, i was saying the time when melanie said “y’all”…
@@RobLappintf u yapping abt like stfu
"y'all know this one!"
Is anyone else here from the allegations against Melanie?
we’ve come back to this song every time they spiral back up :3
me
Me
@@Little_b0dy_littleearthlingI love your pfp
MEEE
Drama aside, this song slaps. First time hearing it. Mel's voice is so beautiful
Most relatable song, and the message is so clear and realistic, her play of words is something you don’t see/hear on a daily basis. Love Melanie ❤️
This song is a distrack?
what play on words
@@lsfmI'm also confused lmao
@@Anonymous_hiino its not
@@Princess_Cynyes it is, about Timothy, she was sneak dissing but it is a distrack
I stared listening bc the accusations came back
Same
same
Same 😕
same
same 😭
I cried because I had a toxic friend that would take a advantage of the fact that I’m a people pleaser cause they knew I have a hard time to saying no and also start drama because they knew I had a very hard time standing up for myself and manipulated me for such a long time I’m so glad I’m out of that toxic relationship
It's kinda sad how alot people are like "this kinda sounds like brain & heart" When they didn't realize Melanie's pain. These lyrics talk about Timothy heller. To the people who don't know what she did I'll give a small explanation:
( TW: SENSITIVE TOPICS)
So Melanie Martinez and Timothy Heller were friends until like 2017 ( like june or December) Timothy posted a tweet about Melanie on s3xu@lly h@rssing her. And people believed her because her explanation were like very long ( she said mel did it at a 2 day sleepover) but the dates didn't really make sense cuz mel was touring in new york.
At the end Melanie was proved innocent and that Timothy was jealous of her fame and that her "mental problem" Made her do it ( she has BPD) and even clamied that Melanie's song paicfy her was originally written by her.
~thats all~
tysm
Thanks but they mean the beat
I don't understand why you are calling them out and taking offense to what they said, they were just expressing how the song made them feel listening to it. That's what people do when they listen to music.
This is blatant information Melanie literally admitted it happened and said verbatim “she never said no to what we chose to do together” which is very predatory bc just bc someone doesn’t say no doesn’t mean they consented
@@saramclougglin61you’re not reading the sentence right.. if they both consented then it isn’t SA. if timothy was drunk or asleep then it would count but she gave her consent and timothy admitted to lying.
"Show proof Melanie is innocent"
*Piggyback starts playing*
not a valid argument!
I feel conflicted now that more time has passed between the original allegations.
Melanie's music, image, and persona deeply resonate with me and have for almost a 10 years now (which is crazy to say, I just got into her fandom very young)
When the allegations first came out in 2017 I was in middle school. I loved Melanie and had incorporated aspects of her brand into my identity. I didnt believe Timothy at all, but less because of inconsistencies with the allegation but because I wanted to be "allowed" to listen to her again.
Now I'm old enough to be heading towards college, and my opinions have shifted. SA is a complicated crime, victims often push down details and give perpetrators the benefit of the doubt in an effort to maintain their relationships and friendships. Even the lyrics in this song could be interpreted as tropes often used against women who were sexually assaulted.
Paraphasing of course, "I'm the real victim here," "She came out with it for the money/the fame." These are used routinely against victims of rape.
I'm not saying anyone who loves Melanie is a bad person, because I love her brand too. But theres some cognative dissonance here that you have to be aware of.
Whether you believe the allegations or not, at least allow the victim to exist of social media without being mentioned to harassed too often. Consider, if she was telling the truth, how stressful it would be to be another SA victim watching this play out in real time. The dismissive remarks, people defending your abuser. Its terrifying.
Again, I've considered myself a crybaby since I was 9. I found Melanie's music through a goddamn Ever After High Dressup Game. I still remember, the song was Mad Hatter. I was like "Damn this is kinda good" and it spiraled from there.
No one wants to give up things they like, or feel like a bad person from liking it. I just want fans to look at the nuances of the situation.
thank u for talking abt this
Such a good 2000’s kinda beat with a modern Melanie kind of twist.
0:40 The line sounds like its about her best friend Jackie (Jacqueline) that she's still friends with since 5yrs old
Edit cuz 70 likes: 1:09 is Mel saying she unfriended Timothy I think (idrk)
1:18 this part is where Mel said "still sending love I wish you/her(?) the best
I thought it was abt Timothy? I could be wrong tho 😭
@@FaeHuddleston the song is about Tim but in that line it was about Jackie
@@FaeHuddleston yeah it is but only this line
@@IL1K3M3 ohhh okay thx for letting me know
@@Mina_Playz. ohhhh okay thx for letting me know
not a diss js a song she felt she needed to write
Not a diss just her wanting to defend herself but now ppl see that she can't... "She never said no"
@@Littlemissbevy yh it was bad wording ik she meant good by it tho.
@@dolly.84 do you not know what she did? She graped a girl without consent
@@Littlemissbevy you are taking it out of context. If you read timothy's statement she says she said NO mel reply's to this and says she didn't say no and "WE" chose to do what we did like think about it she is replying to what timothy said so you cant just read her statement without reading timothy's. cancel culture is insane! I believe mel is innocent
@@rainstormmsp4682 your just saying that cuz your a fan....
Am I the only one who cried
Yes
no
I did too.
No 😭
No
This is abt all the Timothy stuff
I had a feeling it was about her
@@violentlyawkwardhaha yeah, Mel released this right after the allegations came through before disappearing from the internet because a lot of her fans were burning her merch on video.
Thought you were talking Timothy like the meme one 💀
i thought fire drill was about that "i am not the government, I am not the fucked up men"
I can honestly relate to being betrayed and defamed by people I called friends and told everything, so this song sticks with me.
This songs actually really catchy! I love it 🫶
back after the new timothy statement...
Same 😭😭 I hope this gets resolved
Same i hate Timothy so much
@@Lexisworldsyeah idk who to trust anymore
Frrr like Melanie did nothing wrong
I just can’t believe this is being brought up again I’m currently neutral about this I just hope Mel would respond to these allegations
So half of us here are here bc of timothy and mel?
Well this is what i got from it - (this is not me writing btw, i just copy and paste) - To ALL the people who keep saying "She didn't say no- Melanie" Here is EXACTLY what she said. "am horrified and saddened by the
statements and story told tonight by
Timothy Heller. What she and I shared
was a close friendship for a period of
time. We came into each other's lives as
we were both starting our careers as
artists, and we tried to help each other.
We both had pain in dealing with our
individual demons and the new paths we
were forging, but I truly felt we were trying'"
to lift each other up. She never said no
what we chose to do together. And
although we parted ways, I am sending
her love and light always. " So stop only putting that when you know that's not what she said.
Im on no ones sides until someone clears this up or mel clears this up because i know for a FACT that 🍇 is wrong but i dont know if this is 100% true right now, so im not gonna belive either sides until Melanie or someone else clears this up.
If some or you have any info please tell me for i can add on! Thank you for listening.
Another edit because i got more info that i copy and paste from a video description! - 7/27/2018: the point isn't that heller and martinez stayed friends after the assault. the point is that heller LIED and said they stopped being friends in 2016. here's proof they were friends in 2017: (video) • TIMOTHY HELLER EXPOSED (LYING AG... if she has nothing to hide, there's no reason to lie. please remember occam's razor, and that all of these points work together to create one picture. most of these things alone prove nothing, but when they're all viewed together like parts of a machine, it's enough to convince me that martinez is innocent. ----- that video was from @The Crow Formerly Known As Piper Sweeney ----
(- thats one part but that wasnt me that said that, but im not on anyones sides right now even if i love melanie.)
P.s. dont go after me from this comment. And i made a playlist regarding all of this. I dont know if this is true yet, so.
It will not be cleared up because mel clearly will never admit to SA. Be real w/ me if this was Mel saying Timothy SA'd her, whos side would you be on?
@@Bloodied_Will Mel has been SA'd do you think shes doing that to other people??
@@StrawBerrys.are.fUn222 mel drew cp of her combined with crybaby flashing her tatas, and got asked what her favorite icarly ep was and said topless, her drawings of kids are weird, and her tmblr post have age play.
@@Bloodied_Will please shutup.always belive victim first.
Btw,timothy is messing up the story
One time she said that Melanie SA'd her in bed
The other time she said she SA'd her in a s3x game
One time she said that Melanie was the one that bought the game
The other time she said that she was the one who bought the game for the sleepover
And she messed up the date and wants us to believe that her icloud or idfk is "fucked up"
And she has no proof that Melanie really did anything
And before you say that Melanie said "she never said no" try to read the complete sentence "she never said no to what WE chose to do together"
And timothy is a racist and has said the n-word multiple times and a Nazi
keep in mind that Melanie's real hair in May was bluish purple and black, her hair going from late May-June was blonde and black.
we know this is her real hair because Timothy backs this up saying "I've never known Melanie to wear extensions, when you see her with long hair it's a wig." all of her short hair in that time proves it was blue in May and blonde in July.
I'm gonna take this a step further and tell you that her iCloud was not glitched; the images show May 6, which is the exact and only day Melanie wore that outfit with that hair color (we know this via her instagram posts). if it was on June 25th like she said, Mel's hair would've been blonde, wig or not.
and no this isn't a mental block thing, as someone who has been through mental block from experiences, it's very hard to believe her when the dates are right in her face
"Now you're trying to kill my name for some fame what is this''
TIMOTHY, THEY'RE CALLING YOU
There's a lot of songs talking about people wanting to pull her down to reach higher, and this song is one of them
when i hear ''I worked hard for this, put my love in this'', i understand the pain (?) melmel is feeling.
that song is just omg.
Im actually so happy what ppl say is totally fake and it is released !
I love melanie martinez
AND IM AGIANST TIMOTHY
@@Silky_rose34687green aura with flies
@@sabr_inappropriateoh please you think you ate
Edit: your username explains it all. You have green aura with flies..
thia song is so good && now nostalgic to me
Going back and tried relistening to this song, I couldn't take how much the world hated Melanie by that time that gave hindrance to her success. SHE WAS INNOCENT ALL THIS TIME, YET PEOPLE WAS SO BLINDSIDED BY LIES.
And it’s happening again :/ I wish this was all taken care of sooner
:(
We’re all here now because damn Timothy
Yep.
Fr
fr that damn Timothy I feel like she is lying cus she keeps saying that when mel gets fame
fr
@@nataliesoto869frrr like she did it like a few years ago when Mel was on the crybaby tour and now it’s the trilogy tour she’s back.
i forgot about this song. i used to listen to it when i was 10 now im 15 😭
we all know why we’re here 😭
definitely 😭
yess omg 😭🙏🏼
Fr
Yup😢
Yep
my favorite song ❤
Anyone else come to this because Timothy randomly came back with the milk?? Or as I should call it, the drama?
👇
It's not drama. It's rape allegations. That is not "drama", that's something that should be taken incrsdibly seriously unlike what Melanie fans are doing. Good to know you're all rapists suporters and would doxx someone for peaking up about their traumatix experiences. Will not be associating with any of you in the future
Yup
Love coming back to this song 💓
Same younger me would be proud
u know its a disstrack directed at the person who she allegedly ( but most likely raped) raped right
@GigaPepsi it was proven false 9 years ago, get over it
@@Hello-r2n where did u get that 5 hour stat
@@Hello-r2n yeah and im sure all 5 of those hours were productive and not just reading tweets of other mel stans
And history repeats it's self
This is a good mix of leeches brain and heart and botl...
This song is soo relateable i cried when i listened to it
It’s abt Timothy
@@winxclqbxwho’s that
@@TBHKisGood_Noobs Timothy Heller is Melanie’s ex best friend bc she made fake SA allegations against her.
@@winxclqbx yeah but they may still relate
@@winxclqbxIdk maleanie said “You never said no to what we did that night❤” which kinda means they did do a iff and timothy wasn’t okay with it😊
crying screaming and throwing up rn
I heared that this was abt Timothy the guy who accused her for SA
Its a girl not a guy
accused?
@@topdynamiteyes.
@@topdynamiteya, i can make a video if u wan hey you look familiersrt
its only kinda about her since she was toxic and did use her for fame
Honestly, I'm mad that we remembered this thanks to Timothy.
Why are you mad?
@@luhvhwa7853 the alligations have came back out again and this song is just a reminder to it when they first started
@@lawesy71I mean, why isn't Melanie speaking about about them. The only time she did was in one tweet where she said 'she didn't say no'. As far as I'm concerned, if these things arent true, then Melanie should come forward and say something. I've been listening to her for a long time, and I love her music, but I cannot stomach how the fandom and her are treating someone who could potentially be a victim.
@@Ivan_is_still_alive_trust_me
Which is why we should not take sides till the matter is cleared
@@lawesy71 Very much so. I agree with that.
I find it weird how Timothy Heller somehow popped up and said this situation again. I'm on MELANIE MARTINEZ side for now. Until further investigation on BOTH stories and sides. For now, I'm on Melanie Martinez. I find it weird and strange how this situation was brought up again.
you guys literally ran tim off the internet. mel fans doxxed her vro
came here because of the accusations which is sad-
it doesn't sound like she's mocking her- it's just in general of ppl not just her.
but then again we don't know, we have little to no evidence to this situation so we don't know what's true and what's not but i personally think they should of taken it to court or something and not of ran to the internet.
Was this supposed to be in after school because it sounds like a after school song
I don't think so this was 2 years before k-12 but it does sounds more like an after school song
@Æ she didnt lie
@Æ the "proof" she lied was proofed to be fabricated by a fan who also sent timothy death threats
@@Grigio-KenCarsonsVer. she did lie. They did have sex but it wasn’t rape
@@Grigio-KenCarsonsVer. Timothy worshiper 🤓
Drama aside this shit slaps. I dont support her but her music is fire
i came back to listen to this because timothy posted about this again. im on melanies side but i do feel bad that everything personal abt timothy got leaked. thats just wrong to leack her information
I agree. I'm on Melanie's side but the way melanie's fans treated Timothy is very disturbing
@@crybaby_k12_portalz frrr
How are you on a rapists side????
@@CloudAreGlowingtheres no proof that she did it, besides, she (Timothy) literally got exposed
@@LunaRuinsYourDay Can I have proof of her being proved to be lying?? I keep asking for it but nobody ever gives it to me
I remember this drama from a while back,I’m still not sure who’s lying or not but this song says it all now I’m started to think Timothy is lying
Btw,timothy is messing up the story
One time she said that Melanie SA'd her in bed
The other time she said she SA'd her in a s3x game
One time she said that Melanie was the one that bought the game
The other time she said that she was the one who bought the game for the sleepover
And she messed up the date and wants us to believe that her icloud or idfk is "fucked up"
And she has no proof that Melanie really did anything
And before you say that Melanie said "she never said no" try to read the complete sentence "she never said no to what WE chose to do together"
And timothy is a racist and has said the n-word multiple times and a Nazi
keep in mind that Melanie's real hair in May was bluish purple and black, her hair going from late May-June was blonde and black.
we know this is her real hair because Timothy backs this up saying "I've never known Melanie to wear extensions, when you see her with long hair it's a wig." all of her short hair in that time proves it was blue in May and blonde in July.
I'm gonna take this a step further and tell you that her iCloud was not glitched; the images show May 6, which is the exact and only day Melanie wore that outfit with that hair color (we know this via her instagram posts). if it was on June 25th like she said, Mel's hair would've been blonde, wig or not.
and no this isn't a mental block thing, as someone who has been through mental block from experiences, it's very hard to believe her when the dates are right in her face.
@@Elizabeth_afton_heheThis comment
Fr!!!! This song says alot of it. "Was a good friend and you used that to your advantage"
@@alternatemars8350 the comment seems deleted i will copy paste it again
Btw,timothy is messing up the story
One time she said that Melanie SA'd her in bed
The other time she said she SA'd her in a s3x game
One time she said that Melanie was the one that bought the game
The other time she said that she was the one who bought the game for the sleepover
And she messed up the date and wants us to believe that her icloud or idfk is "fucked up"
And she has no proof that Melanie really did anything
And before you say that Melanie said "she never said no" try to read the complete sentence "she never said no to what WE chose to do together"
And timothy is a racist and has said the n-word multiple times and a Nazi
keep in mind that Melanie's real hair in May was bluish purple and black, her hair going from late May-June was blonde and black.
we know this is her real hair because Timothy backs this up saying "I've never known Melanie to wear extensions, when you see her with long hair it's a wig." all of her short hair in that time proves it was blue in May and blonde in July.
I'm gonna take this a step further and tell you that her iCloud was not glitched; the images show May 6, which is the exact and only day Melanie wore that outfit with that hair color (we know this via her instagram posts). if it was on June 25th like she said, Mel's hair would've been blonde, wig or not.
and no this isn't a mental block thing, as someone who has been through mental block from experiences, it's very hard to believe her when the dates are right in her face.
But that's just one photo, it doesn't disprove anything really. And it can be hard to recount abuse or assault, especially with the time thats passed. As far as I'm concerned, she wouldn't really be coming back with these allegations if the Crybaby and earthling fandom would leave Timothy the f alone. Timothy even said that she was trying to move on after everything had happened, but the fandom just will not stop. They relentlessly attack her, and I'm not gonna lie, but even if these things aren't true, they're being just absolutely horrendous. Im a fan of Melanie's music but I am not taking her side. Nor will i take Timothy's side, until the truth comes out with ACTUAL concrete evidence. If what Timothy says is a lie, then that's a really shitty thing to do and she needs to woman up and own her mistakes and reflect. But if what she's saying is true, then Melanie as well as her fandom, needs a real fricking reflection on the things that they've done and said to her, especially the fandom.
Ran here after watching Louis McClugs vid on this, and I am glad that I moved on to more emo-like music like Pierce the Veil and Get Scared. I used to LOVE meline martiez, but now; the dark lyrics just make me uncomfortable with the kiddy like vibe. At least when my emo ass music talks about slightly heavier things, it is drowned out by heavy screams and heavy instruments-
Imo:
Timothy restated the s/a allegations again and the dates dont line up when timothy accused melanie so i dont understand why timothy would accuse mel again instead of just taking the situation to court instead of posting it on social media. I dont think melanie will respond because she already adressed the information that timothy made. Also why are we bringing back something from 7 years ago? I say we just move on
My comment kinda explains everything or wtv
i agree it happened a long while back but im not saying anything untill truth is out
The allegations are outside of the statue of limitations, meaning it is no longer considered a crime. Also often times police wont listen to people about SA cases, especially major celebs. You have clearly only looked at mels side. Timothy stated that her photos duplicated so she had the dates incorrect that is why it didnt line up. It wasnt just 7yrs ago some drama happened. it was 7 years of a ruined life for timothy. It was 7 years of being called a liar. Last but not least, its not your choice to decide when to move on. its important for people to own up to what they do, melanie has clearly shown she doesnt even know what consent is. If this was reversed and melanie came out saying she was SA'd by timothy, whos side would u be on?
@@Bloodied_Will You are dumb did you even read mels statement she knows what consent is she was replying to timothy's statement where she said that she was saying no and that she didn't want to mel is replying saying she didn't say no because timothy said she did say no and mel then says "WE CHOSE" that right there implies mutual consent its not her fault you don't understand English. also melanie could sue for defamation but she didn't because she still cared about timothy and wished her a good life like does that sound like someone who would just rape someone. Not only that but timothy said that she was SA"d and it ruined her life but then proceeds to do SEX WORK a SA victim doing sex work is wild like work at taco bell or mc donalds you don't have to do sex work i am not gonna believe someone like that.
Btw,timothy is messing up the story
One time she said that Melanie SA'd her in bed
The other time she said she SA'd her in a s3x game
One time she said that Melanie was the one that bought the game
The other time she said that she was the one who bought the game for the sleepover
And she messed up the date and wants us to believe that her icloud or idfk is "fucked up"
And she has no proof that Melanie really did anything
And before you say that Melanie said "she never said no" try to read the complete sentence "she never said no to what WE chose to do together"
And timothy is a racist and has said the n-word multiple times and a Nazi
keep in mind that Melanie's real hair in May was bluish purple and black, her hair going from late May-June was blonde and black.
we know this is her real hair because Timothy backs this up saying "I've never known Melanie to wear extensions, when you see her with long hair it's a wig." all of her short hair in that time proves it was blue in May and blonde in July.
I'm gonna take this a step further and tell you that her iCloud was not glitched; the images show May 6, which is the exact and only day Melanie wore that outfit with that hair color (we know this via her instagram posts). if it was on June 25th like she said, Mel's hair would've been blonde, wig or not.
and no this isn't a mental block thing, as someone who has been through mental block from experiences, it's very hard to believe her when the dates are right in her face
i relate to this song so much
how
@@mathilde325 how do you think?
@@mathilde325it's quite obvious how 💀
@@sun12146playlists not really.. the song was about how timothy falsely accused melanie of r@ping her 😭 it’s just an unusual thing to happen so i just thought it was odd
@@mathilde325yeah. The meaning of the song is fake friends accusing you of stuff you didn't do to ruin your reputation just for fame and attention ( specifically aimed at Timothy),
And here we are again...
friendly this is not an unreleased song!!! this is more than ok to like!!
hey guys, you here for the same reason?
Yeah
yup
Yah
yeahhh 🌚
yessir
So we're all back in here?
Sadly yes
This song is so good I love Melanie❤
I remember the day this came out I'm so old
ME TOO..... right after the allegations w timothy heller....
fav song by mel
Umm im not choosing sides i just like this song bc i relate to it😭😭
I'm sorry :(
fr 😭😭
Btw,timothy is messing up the story
One time she said that Melanie SA'd her in bed
The other time she said she SA'd her in a s3x game
One time she said that Melanie was the one that bought the game
The other time she said that she was the one who bought the game for the sleepover
And she messed up the date and wants us to believe that her icloud or idfk is "fucked up"
And she has no proof that Melanie really did anything
And before you say that Melanie said "she never said no" try to read the complete sentence "she never said no to what WE chose to do together"
And timothy is a racist and has said the n-word multiple times and a Nazi
keep in mind that Melanie's real hair in May was bluish purple and black, her hair going from late May-June was blonde and black.
we know this is her real hair because Timothy backs this up saying "I've never known Melanie to wear extensions, when you see her with long hair it's a wig." all of her short hair in that time proves it was blue in May and blonde in July.
I'm gonna take this a step further and tell you that her iCloud was not glitched; the images show May 6, which is the exact and only day Melanie wore that outfit with that hair color (we know this via her instagram posts). if it was on June 25th like she said, Mel's hair would've been blonde, wig or not.
and no this isn't a mental block thing, as someone who has been through mental block from experiences, it's very hard to believe her when the dates are right in her face
Some lyrics are going a way of adding Timothy into this and the whole drama that happened and if you don’t understand let me tell you.. so basically Timothy is Melanie’s best friend or used to, Timothy got a game and asked Melanie to do it with her, Melanie said yes and keep in mind they both agreed to do it, it was a sexual game and then later on a few days later she made a lie online and said that “Melanie raped me” even though she never had any proof, I mean, Melanie would never do that, many fans have said this song was based on her and it is based on Timothy. She didn’t wanna take it to court because Melanie is famous .. and she doesn’t have any proof about it. Not to mention the fact she didn’t talk about this ASAP to the police. If it’s that serious why wait two years? The internet can’t solve your problems.. it’s obviously fake and the fact Melanie fans are believing this. 2 years is a long time and now you finally wanna rage about it. And Melanie fans are literally Destroying their merch because of this. Timothy has also raged about other artists to bring their fame down, like she did to Billie . And was racist to a black rapper. And on the other hand Melanie has more proof about this. If your really sensitive you should’ve said no in the first place. Timothy stated that she didn’t want to and tried to say no multiple times and this is the time you know to call the police about this situation but no, CLEARLY the internet can’t help you. She did this to herself and now she gets hate. Honestly deserves it, Timothy is a faker and says how she wants to grow her fame with her songs, like- No! You can’t expect to grow your fame fighting with a more popular artist and expect to be liked by people who find you fake. “But oh! What if what Timothy said is real?????” I doubt that, it’s been 9 YEARS! and none of her accusations have been found true. Btw sorry if anything is wrong
yeah idk who to trust
a lot of earthlings immediately defend melanie bc they’ve put her on a pedestal and timothy’s r@pe accusations just shatter that perfect image they have of them
Until Melanie is proved innocent or guilty, none of us should directly support her. Although we might never know since they were the only ones in that moment, it's better to listen to the victim rather than chase them off the internet again. I do think Melanie could've handled this better back then though. Making a song isn't exactly good when it comes to allegations like this
yes! why can't she make a proper statement...
@@kallyywallyyshe might of took it to court, if you take it to court you can't talk about it on social media plus shes really busy making new music and going on tour !!x
@@livxplayzz i'm pretty sure if i'm not mistaken that she can talk abt it after the process is over tho... so if she did we would like to know. i hope we will get more information afterwards.
@@kallyywallyy Even though they might’ve gone to court, Theres something called NDA’s (non-disclosure agreements) Basically a law, where you can’t talk about anything that happened in court. She could’ve filed a NDA.
Btw,timothy is messing up the story
One time she said that Melanie SA'd her in bed
The other time she said she SA'd her in a s3x game
One time she said that Melanie was the one that bought the game
The other time she said that she was the one who bought the game for the sleepover
And she messed up the date and wants us to believe that her icloud or idfk is "fucked up"
And she has no proof that Melanie really did anything
And before you say that Melanie said "she never said no" try to read the complete sentence "she never said no to what WE chose to do together"
And timothy is a racist and has said the n-word multiple times and a Nazi
keep in mind that Melanie's real hair in May was bluish purple and black, her hair going from late May-June was blonde and black.
we know this is her real hair because Timothy backs this up saying "I've never known Melanie to wear extensions, when you see her with long hair it's a wig." all of her short hair in that time proves it was blue in May and blonde in July.
I'm gonna take this a step further and tell you that her iCloud was not glitched; the images show May 6, which is the exact and only day Melanie wore that outfit with that hair color (we know this via her instagram posts). if it was on June 25th like she said, Mel's hair would've been blonde, wig or not.
and no this isn't a mental block thing, as someone who has been through mental block from experiences, it's very hard to believe her when the dates are right in her face
This is so good.
this is SOOOO after school coded
RIGHTT IT SOUNDS LIKE BRAIN N HEART
this may sound like brain & heart but guys dont realize that melanie wrote this song before they wrote brain & heart. they then deleted it because of the drama. they couldve used like the same beat from this song and just wrote brain & heart using it. (idk if this makes sense i suck at explaining)
no brain & heart is sampled from a jlo song lol
coming back to this feels wrong
My first time listening to this (she made this song for a reason)
Streaming this as HARD as I can rn.
lol why ??
@@topdynamite because it is her expression of her emotions on the circumstances and I resonate with the song.
@@chrissyvoegeli don’t you think it’s a bad time to start streaming her songs now ? have you not seen the allegations of her and Timothy?
@@topdynamite that's literally what this song was written about
@@topdynamite the person who wrote the comment most likely doesn’t beleive timothy
This song is amazing❤
I don't know whether to believe Timothy or Melanie, but I hope the truth comes out soon.
Same... Both Melanie and Timothy are hard to believe... I hope it's not true but honestly it's not looking good... You can continue to listen to her music without supporting what she's done though!
Btw,timothy is messing up the story
One time she said that Melanie SA'd her in bed
The other time she said she SA'd her in a s3x game
One time she said that Melanie was the one that bought the game
The other time she said that she was the one who bought the game for the sleepover
And she messed up the date and wants us to believe that her images app or idfk is "fucked up"
And she has no proof that Melanie really did anything
And before you say that Melanie said "she never said no" try to read the complete sentence "she never said no to what WE chose to do together"
And timothy is a racist and has said the n-word multiple times and a Nazi
Lyrics:
I was three years old,
All I wanted was the music
and my parents were doing everything they could to move away from our place,
working over time always while I sat up in my grandma's project building coloring, oh
Moved to a small town and started to, started to grow
Poetry written, I'm singing and dancing, oh
Photographs, painting, cartoons
That's all I know
That's all I know, oh
I have one best friend to this very fucking day since we were five years old
And I fucking moved away
I wish I never did cause she's the only one who sees me
For who I really am instead of how many I reach, oh
Trusted too many fake people while I was still young
Gave them the benefit of the doubt, I was so wrong
I cut them off and they came for blood 'cause they know
They ain't getting no more
I'm so done with playing piggyback, oh-oh
Swear to god I wished y'all all the best, oh
You're lying your way to try to gain a piece of me
When you could never come close 'cause I know my destiny
I worked hard for my shit
Put my love in this shit
Now you're trying to kill my name for some fame
What is this?
Tried to help you do your shit
Encouraged you to work on it
Was a good friend and you used that to your advantage
Now I'm twenty two and I've had a crazy year of isolation from all the plastic people here
I cannot wait for the day
I can finally move away back to New York City
Where the realest people really stayed, oh
Oh, spent this whole time writing away my heart and my soul
The people I surround myself with have hearts filled with gold
Love and empathy are things that we hold so close
Trying to learn and evolve
I'm so done with playing piggyback, oh-oh
Swear to god I wished y'all all the best, oh
You're lying your way to try to gain a piece of me
When you could never come close 'cause I know my destiny
I worked hard for my shit
Put my love in this shit
Now you're trying to kill my name for some fame
What is this?
Tried to help you do your shit
Encouraged you to work on it
Was a good friend and you used that to your advantage
I'm so done with playing piggyback, oh
Swear to god I wished y'all all the best, oh
You're lying your way to try to gain a piece of me
When you could never come close 'cause I know my destiny
Why would you write the lyrics but there on the video☠️☠️
Amazing!
u know its a disstrack directed at the person who she allegedly ( but most likely raped) raped right
@@Grigio-KenCarsonsVer. Timothy worshiper🤓🤓🤓
@@Grigio-KenCarsonsVer. So you just go from Piggyback video to Piggyback video copying this?
@@K1ki4realMelanie is an ASSHOLE for this song, allegations true or not. People were extremely ableist to Timothy because the allegations were “disproved” this just hyped them up more.
i love this song why didnt she release it
It's released! Just on SoundCloud
She didn’t want to make money off of it bc it was a dis track to her ex freind who made 🍇accusations on her. She didn’t want ppl to think she was trying to profit off it.
Mel ate that sh!t up
If anyone sees this comment - is it okay to listen to this song??? I know its technically released but I feel bad listening to it since its not officially released on her channel and stuff 😭😭 i just want clarification whether its 100% okay to listen to
it is probably okay to listen to because she uploaded it on her personal SoundCloud and it is still there!
@@aleeza_pi alright, thanks for the reply
Basically, for me I think that was more of a thing between them and Timothy shouldn’t put it on Tiktok. She could’ve gone to court but she didn’t. 🤷♀️
LITERALLY.
I COULDNT HAVE WORDED IT BETTER
Imagine you were traumatised by someone who has a MASSIVE public platform and WEALTH (from scamming her fans but that's another thing). Would it be easy for you to just take them ro court? You would have to describe and talk about what happened over and over and it woould cost you massive amounts of money. Going to court over traumatic crimes like these is VERY hard for people. Y'all just want to excuse rape.
swear to God i wished you all the best
u know its a disstrack directed at the person who she allegedly ( but most likely raped) raped right
@laney !! cause its something people praise her and this song should know
@Acorn yeah but the things she didnt do she did
@@Grigio-KenCarsonsVer.u don’t have proof
@@Grigio-KenCarsonsVer. Timothy worshiper🤓
y'all can attack me for this, idgaf. all of this is coming from a former fan of melanie martinez.
it's always "she got the dates wrong!!" melanie quite literally said that it happened herself. "she's a bad person!!" that doesn't matter at all. the majority of the things she supposedly did were made up by melanie fans and even if they were true, it doesn't mean she wasn't sexually assaulted. "sarah morgan exposed her!!" she isn't even a real person. "she dressed up as melanie!!" many victims stay friends with their abusers after it happens. some even stay dating or are forced to live with them. timothy explained that she was still friends with melanie at the time and was on tour with her when the pictures were taken.
(update: i found out that those pictures were taken before the allegations even came out.)
"she promoted her music after making the accusations!!" she released her song months before. "she didn't go to the police or court!!" what would the police be able to do without evidence? the legal system treats sexual assault cases horribly, especially when it's women on women. most sa cases don't have any evidence. and if timothy really is lying, why hasn't melanie sued her for defamation? "timothy bought the game!!" yeah, as a joke. she never consented to having actual sex. "melanie was in the handcuffs!!" ever heard of this thing that happens in games called taking turns? "melanie made songs about how rape is bad!!" hypocrisy is a thing that exists. "she's only speaking up now that melanie is more popular!!" no, she's speaking up now because she was ran off the internet. even if that were the case, why shouldn't she? her story deserves more recognition and support. not to mention there's this globelamp person who wasn't even actually friends with timothy and is an abuser herself.
several friends of mine were sexually assaulted, you gonna tell them that they're lying too? they can't remember the dates or when it happened so i guess that means they're clearly lying. you're all just a bunch of victim blamers. it's very common for people who have been traumatized to not remember dates.
and what about madeleine carina? y'all love to forget that she exists and that she was also sa'd. and before you bring up the whole "she said it was consensual!!" thing: if you have to be begged over and over again while you're intoxicated until you finally give in to having sex, then it's not consent, it's coercion, which is still a form of sexual assault. melanie also never even bothered to address what she said.
another thing: why would timothy come back after years of harassment, being doxxed and getting sent death threats if all she wanted was "attention"? why would she put herself through all of that again if that were the case? she isn't gaining any "fame" from this, she's just receiving the same thing she did 7 years ago: being harassed by melanie's fanbase and getting called a "liar".
everyone also just loves to ignore the fact that melanie changed her story. first she said that she did something with timothy and then backtracked on it when she thanked her fans for pointing out her "false" statements. did it happen or not? melanie's first statement is also horrendous. "she never said no" is abuser language. the full sentence does not matter because it doesn't change anything. if it isn't a definitive and enthusiastic yes, then it's a no, period. it's always "believe the victim!!" until it's timothy and madeleine.
Her story has changed so many times it’s disgusting. Went from “idk where this is coming from” to “nothing happened between us” to “what happened was consensual” then back to “she’s a liar and nothing happened at all”
Stand with all victims. Especially those whose stories don’t change for the better part of a decade. Its stand with all victims until you like the perpetrators, until the perpetrators are attractive women. Imagine thinking ur so big it’s appropriate to drop a track in response to serious allegations.
How about you stop taking sides and just be on the other side which is not believing any of them, as most people had said it's between them two not us so stop involving yourself by picking sides its just going to start more drama and who knows this could end up to either of then going into a really bad mental state and probably end up harming themselves, that's probably why Mel hasn't said anything else about it because she doesn't want to end up harming herself because of people like you making the drama worse. So how about stop picking sides and causing more drama and leave it to them to sort it out on their own, we don't know what actually happened so we don't need to be involved.
Come at me all you want but I don't care i'm standing by what I just said and I cba with dealing with people thinking because they know people who's been sa'd that they can "choose" sides and cause more drama then there already is.
@@paigefayeallen9802yeah no thanks i'd rather believe the victims instead of the rapist. if you're "neutral" you functionally support the abuser and i don't see how i'm making things worse by debunking all of the dumbass points melanie's fans make to discredit a victim's story. you clearly didn't bother to read through anything i wrote if your only takeaway was to tell me to "stay neutral". also i'm sorry but you referring to serious rape accusations as "drama" is disgusting. people like you are part of the problem. you can stay mad at me and this comment all you want but i'm standing with the victims and that's final.
@@jan-ym8jmthis 100%
@@yourlocalcr4ckdealer a victim is the targeted person who suffers from someone else's abuse or harmful behavior. We don't know who the victim is. If Timothy is lying, then Melanie is the victim. If Timothy is telling the truth, then Timothy is the victim. We don't know. You can't support the victim when you don't know who the victim is.
i think mel is innocent! for a very good reason.
timothy heller said this when mel got popular for crybaby. and then timothy heller again states the SAME thing when mel got popular again for portals and the troliogy tour, timothy speaks the SAME THING FROM 2017, and from other people that expeireiced SA they dont decribe as much as timothy did because its either very sentive to them or private
and the story sounds fishy all the sudden she wanted to ____ with her when there only friends? and mel even made a song about timothy faking the whole story... called piggyback
and yall have to understand that mel insent gonna make a statement, because she has NOTHING NEW TO REPOND TO yall
so thats why i think mel is innocent.
those are not good reasons at all 💀 first off, melanie has been popular for years and has had millions of fans since then. second, are victims not allowed to speak up about what they experienced anymore? yes, some of them choose to keep what happened to them private, but not every victim is the same. several of my friends are sexual assault victims that publicly speak about what they went through. lastly, making this song doesn't prove anything at all. her silence is also speaking volumes and just makes her look more guilty than anything.
@@yourlocalcr4ckdealer girl keep your opinions to yourself this is my opinion, second of all and mel got more popular when portals and troilogy tour. thats what i meant , third of all victims are ALLOWED TO SPEAK! i never said they were not allowed to. and she has nothing to talk about she aready said that in 2017 she dosent need to repond to it because she aready did. one more thing, My reasons are pretty good not perfect but they are reasonable you support who you want to this is my opinion.
@@TotallyNotAva1i mean you posted a comment in a public comment section under a public video... but okay lmao. if that's what you wanna believe then i can't stop you. melanie does have other allegations btw
@@yourlocalcr4ckdealer so, from your friends, do they ever give explicit details of their traumas, or are they usually vague?
@@yourlocalcr4ckdealer what are Melanie's other allegations?
back because timothy came back.
Personally I stand by innocent until proven guilty.
i very much agree
Yes! I’ve seen so many people say “guilty until proven innocent” on this case and I was like “not according to the amendment” (I forgot which amendment it was)
same!! I made a post on Pinterest about it, and it legitimately had the tag “ #melaniemartinezisinnocentuntilprovenguilty “ on it
@@r4in_c4ndyy_. nk one says tha t.
I am still confused on if is true that Melanie did that to Timothy or is a lie, i am so confuseeeed
we don't know for sure but me personally i believe timothy. why would tim be so dedicated to a lie when it's ruining her whole life? + melanie admitted that there were some things going on between the both of them... and she said "she didn't say no to what we chose to do together" which to me sounds like timothy didn't give a proper "yes" either... tim also claimed in her video that she did infact say no multiple times. i think it's kinda frustrating that mel won't take any accountability and make a proper statement...
so that's why i'm siding with tim.
@@kallyywallyyfrrr… people need to think of it like this: Timothy already was drove off the internet and had her entire life ruined. Why would she bring it up again if nobody believed her anyways 😭😭
@@SupernovaFishsticks EXACTLY and it makes me so mad they are doing it to her AGAIN? like please just think abt how dumb it would be for her to lie abt it again after it ruined her life and still is ruining it?! 😭
@@kallyywallyy frr 😭😭😭
Btw,timothy is messing up the story
One time she said that Melanie SA'd her in bed
The other time she said she SA'd her in a s3x game
One time she said that Melanie was the one that bought the game
The other time she said that she was the one who bought the game for the sleepover
And she messed up the date and wants us to believe that her images app or idfk is "fucked up"
And she has no proof that Melanie really did anything
And before you say that Melanie said "she never said no" try to read the complete sentence "she never said no to what WE chose to do together"
And timothy is a racist and has said the n-word multiple times and a Nazi
i live in these comments bc im at this video 24/7
What do i do if mel is proved wrong, do i stop listening to her songs? I love her songs and the meanings but is it wrong of me to listen to them when mel is proved wrong?
if mel is proved to be a r%p1st, you can still listen to her music as long as you aren't directly supporting her. hold her accountable, don't listen to her music directly on stuff like spotify, listen to soundcloud or yt videos that aren't copyrighted (for example slowed / sped up songs), don't buy any merch unless its from a reseller, if you're watching k-12 then skip all ads cause mel makes money from those. also unfollow her on all social medias and just don't watch or support her content
Btw,timothy is messing up the story
One time she said that Melanie SA'd her in bed
The other time she said she SA'd her in a s3x game
One time she said that Melanie was the one that bought the game
The other time she said that she was the one who bought the game for the sleepover
And she messed up the date and wants us to believe that her icloud or idfk is "fucked up"
And she has no proof that Melanie really did anything
And before you say that Melanie said "she never said no" try to read the complete sentence "she never said no to what WE chose to do together"
And timothy is a racist and has said the n-word multiple times and a Nazi
keep in mind that Melanie's real hair in May was bluish purple and black, her hair going from late May-June was blonde and black.
we know this is her real hair because Timothy backs this up saying "I've never known Melanie to wear extensions, when you see her with long hair it's a wig." all of her short hair in that time proves it was blue in May and blonde in July.
I'm gonna take this a step further and tell you that her iCloud was not glitched; the images show May 6, which is the exact and only day Melanie wore that outfit with that hair color (we know this via her instagram posts). if it was on June 25th like she said, Mel's hair would've been blonde, wig or not.
and no this isn't a mental block thing, as someone who has been through mental block from experiences, it's very hard to believe her when the dates are right in her face
until there is real proof from timothy, i’m still on mel’s side.
Always believe the victim until it’s your favorite celebrity i guess 😭 you have the ability to go find videos that explain the story in detail from an unbiased standpoint
Is it bad that I like the song? Even if I’m a Melanie fan?
i dont know why she made a song instead of addressing the allegations thats confusing
real
she did address them
She does address them, but the song actually further explains.
@@elisakrivas explaining the allegations in a song is very weird tbh
@@MelanieMackey-ke9sg what a silly excuse! She's obviously autistic, so yes, of course, we autistics are weird. Music is a great coping mechanism. I write my songs the same way. Being weird isn't a problem. The problem is people who don't accept weirdos.
If you are on Timothy side, Melanie will be okay with that because its a old topic and the new topic is about the fanbase, Timothy had explained what had Mel's fanbase done to her its melanie herself doing this its the fanbase doing this
Why did Timothy bring it back up because it’s over now
It was not over, nobody was proved innocent. Everybody just took Melanie’s side
@@kqydenheartsbut that was years ago and know one was ever guilty people keep on bringing it back up even though it was like seven years ago
@@Pink_melanie_1 cause she want justice? in her video tim explained that this whole situation is to this day still ruining her life
Btw,timothy is messing up the story
One time she said that Melanie SA'd her in bed
The other time she said she SA'd her in a s3x game
One time she said that Melanie was the one that bought the game
The other time she said that she was the one who bought the game for the sleepover
And she messed up the date and wants us to believe that her images app or idfk is "fucked up"
And she has no proof that Melanie really did anything
And before you say that Melanie said "she never said no" try to read the complete sentence "she never said no to what WE chose to do together"
And timothy is a racist and has said the n-word multiple times and a Nazi
THIS WAS 5 YEARS AGO WHATT??
Came here from louis's video😭
Masterpiece ❤❤❤
Coming back because this is the track that apparently dissed Timothy
We all know who this is about.
Who back cuz of Timothy?