A Visit to Frontier Mall (Cheyenne, Wyoming) : Is it a Dead Mall?

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  • Опубликовано: 26 янв 2025

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  • @quenchquestdrinks
    @quenchquestdrinks 14 дней назад +2

    I lived in Cheyenne from 2019-2021 before moving to Colorado - I went to that AMC around once a week before lockdowns and always snagged a cheeseburger and Cajun fries or a ramen bowl!

  • @jaytitus902
    @jaytitus902 Месяц назад +12

    It is still in good repair and clean. I worked the construction crew that built it and helped get Sears ready for business. It is a good place to exercise on crappy weather days.

  • @frankyboi1819
    @frankyboi1819 18 дней назад +5

    Oh wow it’s surreal watching this. Your research is really good, and yes Frontier mall used to be a lot busier just 10 years ago. Spent a lot of time there between middle school and highschool, even 6 years ago it wasn’t this empty. And I have had my fair share of burgers from that specific Five Guys. Great video!

  • @HaefentheZebra
    @HaefentheZebra 18 дней назад +3

    Thanks for this video, I remember going to this mall so many times over the past 10 years, it's crazy to see how much less foot traffic there is now compared to when I first moved to Wyoming but glad to see it hasn't given up yet. Really hope the owners of the property relax on the lease prices or they're price themselves right into being another properly abandoned mall.

  • @krylonflatwhite
    @krylonflatwhite Месяц назад +20

    I can assure you that it's never busy at the mall along with most of Cheyenne. I have been here a bunch of times and it's always empty. For being a state capital, this place is a ghost town most of the time with the exception of Frontier Days. It's great that you made a video here. Thanks for visiting!

    • @WYO_Dirtbag
      @WYO_Dirtbag Месяц назад +3

      I perfer the ghost town.

    • @TempOne-vh4fd
      @TempOne-vh4fd 24 дня назад

      the walmarts are out of control here. never go around school being out, or 10-2 during the weekend. screaming kids running around getting in the way and the parents dont seem to have much control over them.

  • @climbitmyself782
    @climbitmyself782 Месяц назад +7

    Foothills Mall in Fort Collins, CO just 40 miles south of Cheyenne is comparable in emptiness. Population 170,000 and 2968 people per square mile.

    • @Barkugou420
      @Barkugou420 24 дня назад +2

      Thats only due to the high rent for shop owners (that skyrocketed after it was sold to new management)...and the fact that the new management of the mall insist on converting it into something similar to Centerra in Loveland. Before they went and remodeled it the first time it took 2 years past the original timeline
      And just recently it was announced it was going to be renovated YET AGAIN. back when it was an enclosed mall it wasn't all that bad...used to frequent the arcade there as a kid

  • @Kronicdice23
    @Kronicdice23 Месяц назад +13

    So back in 86 through 90 my mom worked at the Frontier mall. We lived in Greeley down in Colorado and she would drive there and back often. I would cruise up with her whenever I could to meet chicks and just mob in the mall. Bon Jovi living on a prayer came out at that time … good times

  • @ERA_Productions
    @ERA_Productions Месяц назад +15

    Great Video man! Frontier mall is definitely one that I don’t think is going to be going anywhere anytime soon. Which is a good thing! It gives the city of Cheyenne a great place for people to hang out when it’s cold outside, and shop!

    • @DeadMallWalking
      @DeadMallWalking  Месяц назад +2

      Agreed! And, from what I read, it definitely gets cold there 🥶

  • @angelogarcia2189
    @angelogarcia2189 Месяц назад +12

    It reminds me of the Foothills Fashion Mall in Fort Collins.

  • @djenderman1691
    @djenderman1691 18 дней назад +1

    I did not expect to see the mall from my home town on youtube. It is always that slow with the exception of holidays.

  • @mattz4229
    @mattz4229 Месяц назад +8

    It usually is a little busier earlier, but was never very busy. Some of the locations took up primarily or exclusively outside access helping it feel more empty.

  • @joyinthenw2652
    @joyinthenw2652 Месяц назад +6

    Soooo sad that Jax is leaving. Cutest little coffeeshop in the middle of Jax. Bomgaars is moving in instead. Camp Kitchen in the mall has great food including homemade cabbage burgers (Runzas).

  • @BrokenR0se-x3i
    @BrokenR0se-x3i 11 дней назад +1

    Frontier mall is definitely more alive than the Eastridge Mall in Casper. Granted you may see people there too, but there are some horrible things that have happened there the last year. Nowadays eastridge mall is the hangout for the younger kids, e.i. Middle school and early high school. Some of the bigger chains that were in the mall have since moved to other locations outside of the mall.

  • @charlestonpinballarcade
    @charlestonpinballarcade Месяц назад +20

    Love seeing these malls in low population areas! We don’t have many RUclipsrs in these areas to document these places. The locals are very lucky to have this place and hopefully it continues on! 🎉

  • @mholm1818
    @mholm1818 19 дней назад +1

    It's busier than I've seen it in the five or six times I've been there in the last thirty years. Of course, I saw it in its glory days and watched most every movie from the 80s there. It's hard not to see it as a shell of what it was, which was about the only tolerable place to be in that town in those years.

  • @wingedtrish
    @wingedtrish Месяц назад +5

    I grew up in this mall! Spent many a weekend afternoon there. It used to have a Chick Fil A, and I think since they got their stand alone location, the mall has been much less busy.

  • @GrizzledSurvivor
    @GrizzledSurvivor Месяц назад +17

    If only you had seen it 20 years ago…..used to be THE spot for teens in Cheyenne

    • @WYO_Dirtbag
      @WYO_Dirtbag Месяц назад +2

      I can believe it, where else would teens go? Hang out on top of the water tank and drink?

  • @richardchargingcloud6590
    @richardchargingcloud6590 Месяц назад +8

    remind me of the mall in rapid city sd

  • @MP72792
    @MP72792 18 дней назад +1

    You should go 50 miles south to the Greeley mall in Colorado 😢. At least the Frontier mall is still maintained.

  • @matthewmellott1856
    @matthewmellott1856 24 дня назад +3

    lol looking forward to seeing your video on eastridge in Casper! Hahaha

  • @ExquisiteRainImports
    @ExquisiteRainImports Месяц назад +9

    It all went downhill once the arcade Time Out was gone

  • @superdarklink
    @superdarklink 17 дней назад +1

    I cant remember the last time i went into the mall. But then again there isnt any shops in there i like. I think the last time i went there was to see star wars the last jedi with my dad
    That being said, when i moved here in 2007, the mall was quite the busy place. We always liked going into the old country buffet when that was there

  • @johnnydfred
    @johnnydfred Месяц назад +21

    Feels like the 90’s, which in Wyoming - it is.

  • @CynthiaSusanOrtiz
    @CynthiaSusanOrtiz Месяц назад +2

    Jax sold out to Bomgaars and is closing. Up until Covid, the mall was still doing extremely well with huge crowds every weekend. The movie theater was Carmike till it was bought out by AMC. The theater was a huge draw till Covid and closed down that year. That was pretty much the beginning of the end.

    • @joyinthenw2652
      @joyinthenw2652 Месяц назад

      I love the cute coffeeshop in Jax. So sad it might be going away.

  • @FerrumAnulum
    @FerrumAnulum Месяц назад +4

    Damn... What a coincidence. I literally just got back from Frontier mall from a bit of last minute Xmas shopping.
    Edit to add JAX will be moving out sometime next year. And a Bomgaars supposedly is already lined up to take it's place.

  • @ethelryan257
    @ethelryan257 Месяц назад +3

    We live more than an hour's drive outside of Cheyenne. It's the closest 'big'* city to us.
    This mall made a horrendous mistake two generations back. Instead of working with young people to control behaviors which weren't appropriate, they launched an all out attack on anyone young who dared to be in the mall. No, not just the rowdy kids and teens, all young people.
    The result, two generations later? With the exception of Frontier Days, Black Friday and just before Christmas, you pretty much only find people my age and older there. Usually doing their healthy-walking. Talk to the store managers and they will tell you that the younger generations, now in their 40s and early 50s avoid the place. They either go into Jax (soon to be something else) directly and back out again or 5 guys, in and out without going through the mall.
    I know there will be a lot of folks claiming order and discipline are necessary. No argument there, but the way the Cheyenne mall enforced it cost them these young peoples' business, once they grew up.
    *I am well aware of the difference between a city like Fort Collins and the largest city in Wyoming.

    • @DeadMallWalking
      @DeadMallWalking  26 дней назад

      Thanks for the interesting perspective, Ethel! I agree that malls need to be very careful pushing away or excluding young people...even if some of those young people are only there to loiter or cause mischief.

  • @steaknugget22
    @steaknugget22 21 день назад +1

    I live in Cheyenne. This mall is mostly dead. Small shops come and go. It is a very quiet mall except around the holidays from what I noticed. Also, Jax just got bought out by Bomgaars or whatever it's called.

  • @Deezpacks
    @Deezpacks 22 дня назад +1

    Naw it’s always like this except for major holidays and the off occasion they hold events where small businesses hold shops in the middle of the mall.

  • @nicholasharvey1232
    @nicholasharvey1232 Месяц назад +3

    So many malls have died around here in Mississippi and Louisiana in the 2010s and 2020s, it's surprising that this one is hanging on in 2024, of course in a place like Wyoming there isn't much competition when you're the only game in a 100-mile radius. Also this place is definitely catering to local tastes with western and ranch themed shops.
    Have there ever been any malls in the Cowboy State besides ones in Cheyenne, Casper, and Rock Springs? One would think that Evanston, Sheridan, Laramie, or even Jackson or Cody would be big enough to support a mall, at least back when American malls were at their peak in the 80s/90s. In Mississippi, the majority of towns over 10k have or have had a mall: McComb, Natchez, Laurel, Oxford, Meridian, Greenville, Columbus, and Tupelo all have or did have a mall and are all smaller cities than Cheyenne or Casper. We're not exactly a densely populated state ourselves, but we're no Wyoming. (I guess you COULD say we're the Wyoming of the Deep South...) So it stands to reason that many of Wyoming's larger towns could have had a mall, have been considered for a mall (but it wasn't built), or have (or used to have) retail chains more typically found in malls.

  • @momoyome
    @momoyome Месяц назад +2

    I live in Cheyenne and this mall for this time is unusually slow because of the game. I grew up in Los Angeles and watched every mall die. Frontier mall is busier than the malls I haunted in the Valley growing up in the early 00s. Even on a Monday night now it’s crawling with high schoolers eating at 5 Guys and then heading to get Crumbl cookies.

  • @Kaoelia
    @Kaoelia Месяц назад +1

    I used to work in Frontier Mall. First, I worked retail for Roley's Hallmark store. At the same time, I also worked directly for the mall at their customer service booth renting wheelchairs and strollers, answering questions about stores, giving directions, etc. And then I was moved from customer service to receptionist for the mall's office so I had to stop working in the card shop.That feels like forever ago. I still live in Cheyenne, but embarrassing to say, I haven't been inside the mall in a long time. Thank you for the walkthrough.

    • @DeadMallWalking
      @DeadMallWalking  26 дней назад

      Thanks for swinging by. Hope you make it over there soon!

  • @susansackrison3139
    @susansackrison3139 Месяц назад +1

    We had Dillard & Dillard for a time when Twin Peaks Mall still excited in Longmont Colorado. It’s been gone for years now. Opened in 1984 I worked at SoFro Fabrics that year.

  • @jeffs9850
    @jeffs9850 Месяц назад +3

    I’ve lived in Cheyenne since 2003 & remember my kids playing on the playground many times when they were little. As with many malls, it hadn’t been the same since Covid. I hope can revive & thrive. The 2 Dillards wasn’t weird. This is a one level mall. In larger malls, Dillards is a two story building. One was mostly women’s & kids items. The other was men’s, bedding, luggage, etc.

    • @WYO_Dirtbag
      @WYO_Dirtbag Месяц назад

      The mall in Albuquerque at least used to have two Dillards, not sure these days. One was all mens clothes, and the other for women.

  • @jasonstamwitz6928
    @jasonstamwitz6928 26 дней назад +1

    From Casper. Eastridge isn’t this bad. Not saying it is busy, but it isn’t this bad. Though January is always slow for retail. Now 2 bad malls were from where I was from. Aberdeen Wash. Wishkah Mall got so bad they tore down all of one side, and turned it into a smaller strip mall. The South Shore began sinking. Floors are wrapped. JC Penny’s, and Sears left years ago. They just tore the Sears store down, and turned JC into an indoor go cart track. K Mart was there, and was the first to leave. That also just got tore down. Not even sure how much of the mall is left.

  • @distortions1
    @distortions1 Месяц назад +1

    Frontier mall used to be busier before the pandemic. In the video, it looks busier than most times I've been in recent times...

  • @obsoletevalues6209
    @obsoletevalues6209 Месяц назад +1

    My wife and I are "mall walkers" (for the indoor exercise). In the past few years it has not been unusal for over 20 of the 66 indoor stores to be vacant. One of the problems is mall management (CBL Properties in Chattanooga TN). When the lease of Chick-Fil-A expired, one of the employees told us the mall raised their lease amount by 30%. I have not been able to confirm that, but lease costs could definitely be why the vacancy rate is as high as it is.

    • @DeadMallWalking
      @DeadMallWalking  26 дней назад

      Glad you're able to get some exercise in the mall! Thanks for your thoughts on the leasing issues, could be some truth to that...

  • @AcidGamesYT
    @AcidGamesYT 24 дня назад +1

    I actually recently got to explore a back area of the mall that's abandoned it was amazing had some posters and signage and paperwork that dated back to the 80s really neat stuff to see and a really amazing little mall. Its my second dead mall I've explored and I am starting to fall in love with them.

    • @AcidGamesYT
      @AcidGamesYT 24 дня назад

      Also i sent you an instagram msg request I have a few pictures and such of the back areas I can send you if you wanted to see them

  • @d_jswing5903
    @d_jswing5903 Месяц назад +1

    Hey guys! CHEYENNE local here! Very busy during holidays and mid-summer. But it's basically for shopping, and in the hopes of growing into something similar to Fort Collins we hope it gets much bigger (please come visit it's very nice here)

    • @d_jswing5903
      @d_jswing5903 Месяц назад

      P.s. OG locals will remember the country buffet before it closed. Good times

    • @DeadMallWalking
      @DeadMallWalking  26 дней назад

      Thanks for the insight! I'm glad to hear the mall gets plenty of traffic sometimes. I'd love to get back out to Wyoming in the future.

  • @zgsrandomnesshub7561
    @zgsrandomnesshub7561 Месяц назад +1

    An actual shame about that food court, because just 10 years ago, it felt like an actual food hall instead of a loosely strung together collection. Anyways, great vid about our Frontier Mall, and while I'm not in the "tear it down" pack, I think if they could find a way to mix-use zone it with the Staybridge hotel, and some apartments, and a park, and maybe the Target, then it could thrive better. Also, as a local, yep, Jax is out, Bomgaars (or however you spell it, lol) is in.

  • @javaguyaz
    @javaguyaz Месяц назад +1

    Back in the 80s, the Five Guys location was a Wyatt's Cafeteria.

  • @SUCHMISH
    @SUCHMISH Месяц назад +1

    I used to live in Cheyenne when I was younger and I remember the mall being a much busier place than this, back when there was a movie theater and more outlet stores to go to... Though, watching this video, I feel that Eastridge mall has more excitement than this, and even then it isn't as busy as it used to be...

  • @WYO_Dirtbag
    @WYO_Dirtbag Месяц назад +1

    Pretty much every time I'm there (when there's a sale on the 3 wick B&B candles and my wife wants to go), there are more people. Typically 11am - 3pm on weekends. I've actually often been surprised that there was so many people in this mall given it's 2024 in Cheyenne. Still not hordes of people by any means. The thing to remember about Cheyenne is in general the highs are not as high and lows are not as low when it comes to economic trends. Which, can actually be a good thing. Lately there has been a handful of big data centers that have begun construction coupled with more people looking to move to Cheyenne from down South on the CO front range due to cost of living/politics. I'm seeing apartment complex projects suggested/under construction I never thought I would see in this place.

  • @werewolf7897
    @werewolf7897 Месяц назад +2

    I was just in there today and it was jam packed with people do to the holidays

  • @spaghettiboi3174
    @spaghettiboi3174 Месяц назад +4

    The love we have for the mall is like the love you have for a bad drawing your child shows you, the kind that you know isnt good in any way but you still smile and congratulate them

  • @Cyrus_The_Virus_00
    @Cyrus_The_Virus_00 Месяц назад +2

    Malls were fun in the 80’s and early 90’s.

  • @kevinohare9216
    @kevinohare9216 Месяц назад +5

    Boy, the RUclips algorithm must be smart, because I've never heard of this channel, and I happen to live in Cheyenne. I only visit this mall maybe once a year, for Dickey's Barbecue Pit. As a layman, glancing at the list of tenants, Frontier Mall seems to be in decent shape. I'm sorry to see that a pet store is still there in the mall, selling puppies. :( (I volunteer a ton in animal rescue, and can see shelter euthanasia lists daily if I want...)

    • @WYO_Dirtbag
      @WYO_Dirtbag Месяц назад

      I watched a video from this channel a couple weeks ago that I was recommended, and then got recommended this video, and I happen to also live in Cheyenne. I only go to the mall when my wife wants to get some B&B three wick candles on sale.

  • @georgemichael9106
    @georgemichael9106 Месяц назад +1

    Don’t remember the year exactly but was lucky enough to attend Frontier Days The Oak Ridge Boys were the headliner they had just come out with their hit Elvira yeah I’d love to visit Wyoming again.

  • @ratsmacker737
    @ratsmacker737 28 дней назад +5

    frontier mall doesnt have a "feral teen" problem, the problem is that people dont think teens should exist in public in any capacity. and thats not something exclusive to cheyenne. majority of teens are well behaved, and are perfectly willing to correct any behavior that bothers other people.

    • @DeadMallWalking
      @DeadMallWalking  26 дней назад

      I think there's probably some truth to that. There will always be teens who misbehave and get up to mischief, but they tend to be the minority. The kids are, for the most part, alright.

  • @andysorensen1737
    @andysorensen1737 Месяц назад +4

    Frontier feels like they’re playing the hand they’ve been dealt pretty well considering, and there’s no shame in that.

  • @oDstinger84
    @oDstinger84 28 дней назад +2

    Hi, I live two hours away from Casper if you want an interview and a little guide to eastridge mall in Casper if you haven't already completed your filming at eastridge.

    • @DeadMallWalking
      @DeadMallWalking  26 дней назад

      Thank you for that! Unfortunately I'm long gone with no plans to get back to Casper in the immediate future. If that changes, I may just look you up :)

  • @avgjoeavglife
    @avgjoeavglife Месяц назад +6

    I like this mall, it's smaller and looks dated in a good way.

  • @sharonh2991
    @sharonh2991 6 дней назад

    How sad. It reminds me of a mall I visited in Portland Oregon about a year ago, it looked just like this but it has an ice skating rink inside which evidently keeps people coming. The good thing about Portland as opposed to Cheyenne, is that Portland is a big city and has other, vibrant malls.

  • @familyitravel
    @familyitravel 10 дней назад

    Do you walk around with your cell phone in your hand? Or do you have a camera on a tri pod walking around the mall?

  • @Viper31300
    @Viper31300 Месяц назад

    I live in Cheyenne. The mall is busy as heck on the weekends.

  • @FoxtrotDelta-u4s
    @FoxtrotDelta-u4s Месяц назад +2

    As a local - I'd say one thing to take into consideration is that most of the stores in the mall also have a public storefront - So for example, you could walk into JAX from the front as if it were a regular store, but you could also go out the back of that store, into the mall, and into JC penny from there. That kind of thing has kept the mall alive for a while.

  • @cara3055
    @cara3055 Месяц назад

    Lived in Cheyenne from 1990 to 2003. The only thing I recognized in the video that was there since the beginning is JCPenney

  • @Blandys
    @Blandys День назад +1

    Can you check out the ridings in Wakefield

    • @DeadMallWalking
      @DeadMallWalking  9 часов назад

      Actually looks like a very good shout! I’ll add it to my list - hoping for a few more UK road trips this year, so fingers crossed.

  • @zekeabercrombie1242
    @zekeabercrombie1242 Месяц назад

    I haven't been in that mall for at least fifteen years. Went in Five Guys a couple of years ago and left when i saw the prices.

    • @DeadMallWalking
      @DeadMallWalking  26 дней назад

      Five Guys will do that to ya sometimes, hahaha.

  • @The_V_You_Know
    @The_V_You_Know 18 дней назад

    Seeing the part with Jax is kinda funny, and a bit depressing since it just closed down last week

  • @pittster57
    @pittster57 Месяц назад +2

    You did it. Nice

  • @JakeHoffman4life
    @JakeHoffman4life 17 дней назад

    From Casper, this looks EXACTLY like Eastridge...

  • @cjbenboe9871
    @cjbenboe9871 22 дня назад

    Yooo, I've been wondering where Kyle from gamestop has been, too??! Bro was my dawg

  • @RumoredAtmos
    @RumoredAtmos Месяц назад

    Bro I moved to Casper a few months ago, that mall is dead. The buffet there is good though.

  • @MoshJunkie426
    @MoshJunkie426 Месяц назад

    Ill have you know i visit this mall over 3 times a week my bjj gym is in this mall. I miss chick fil a being in here the most though

  • @dylanma06
    @dylanma06 18 дней назад

    This is pretty much Casper’s mall but smaller

  • @VikingHaakensen
    @VikingHaakensen Месяц назад

    It is a lot more full on some weekday afternoons.

  • @experimentdark4692
    @experimentdark4692 Месяц назад

    Person from Cheyenne here Yea our mall sucks to be honest it was way better when dillards and Sears was here but because of online shopping our mall is quiet. It was also better when the movie theater was in the mall.

  • @sircampbell1249
    @sircampbell1249 Месяц назад

    Born in Cheyenne, only time i would go out there was for Radio shack....

  • @baylieevans
    @baylieevans Месяц назад +1

    I've lived in Cheyenne for 14 years. My 10-year-old, 13-year-old and I enjoy our mall frequently, especially on the many cold and windy Wyoming days. It's... fine. Much like most of Wyoming, if you're expecting glitz and glam, you'll be disappointed. If you're expecting quiet and practical, you'll love it here.

  • @travislong3884
    @travislong3884 Месяц назад

    I’ve been to the five guys there a few times and it’s a little wierd

  • @cdca2019
    @cdca2019 15 дней назад

    I only go to this mall for renzios love a good gyro

  • @hologramhouse729
    @hologramhouse729 Месяц назад

    Its undead... a ghostly promenade

  • @collegeman1988
    @collegeman1988 19 дней назад

    Cheyenne, Wyoming has a shopping mall?

  • @KenHeying
    @KenHeying 19 дней назад

    The same thing is happening to movies. People are barely watching movies.

  • @danielgriffith8911
    @danielgriffith8911 Месяц назад

    All indoor malls will fail due to Amazon, rising business property rental cost, and Amazon. Then there is Amazon and Amazon, besides Amazon. Yep, brick and mortar cannot compete with Amazon.

  • @TempOne-vh4fd
    @TempOne-vh4fd 24 дня назад

    homie, this mall is dead and seems to being kept open by tax payer money alone cause the volume of people needed to support a mall is not there. I have lived here for 3 years and I have never seen more than 100 max at a time.

  • @JEEPDadXJ
    @JEEPDadXJ Месяц назад

    Any time I go to this mall, I'm thinking DAWN of the Dead. Thankfully with JAX there, guns and ammo are available.

    • @joyinthenw2652
      @joyinthenw2652 Месяц назад

      Sadly, Jax is closing. Bomgaars is moving in.

  • @TrggrWarning
    @TrggrWarning 19 дней назад

    Malls died 2012ish

  • @gregoryisom7741
    @gregoryisom7741 18 дней назад

    the 60% occupancy hardly counts when dillards owns the land....

  • @momsnoteatingbugs1919
    @momsnoteatingbugs1919 Месяц назад

    Mall management should donate those now showing cases to Wyoming artists to display their work. You know, little known artists and then maybe set up kind of a gallery feel out in that end of the mall: some tables and chairs and maybe some handcarts or food trucks, semi-permanent displays. I don't know, something like that...

  • @danielabeyta1818
    @danielabeyta1818 23 дня назад

    How funny that was an old Sears 🤣

  • @theallseeingoracle
    @theallseeingoracle 14 дней назад

    I'd definitely say yes. I used to go there.

  • @UnderworldEntrance
    @UnderworldEntrance 26 дней назад +1

    I live in this town!! And I can assure you the mall is not dead, especially during Frontier Days. Place is near crowded on most weekends.

    • @DeadMallWalking
      @DeadMallWalking  26 дней назад

      Glad to hear it! Long may the mall continue!