CSX Loaded Coal Drag thru Waynesburg and Stoney Point on Norfolk Southern Track
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- 2 CSX locomotives on the head end of a loaded coal drag EB. First clip is
at Waynesburg, Pa., where the old Waynesburg & Washington RR had it's
terminal. The second part of this vid was taken on top of Stoney Point Bridge on
Pa. State Rt. 188.
The RR bridge is over 10 Mile Creek and is a ballast deck bridge.
My mistake in the 2nd part of the video, we are looking west towards Waynesburg,
not east as I errantly stated.
This track from Brownsville to Waynesburg was originally built by the
Monongahela RR to connect with the W & W RR in the late 1800's or very
early 1900's. The coal is coming from
Baily Mine in Greene County. The Manor Branch to Baily was built by
Monongahela RR in the late 1970's/ early 1980's.
CSX 431 is a GE AC44CW built in July 2000 and 210 is also a GE AC44CW
built in June 1999. There are only 80 cars in this consist instead of the
usual 120 so I'm wondering if this possibly could be a special order
train, perhaps for a cement plant or something like that? We at Cumberland Mine
also sell special order trains for a cement plant about twice a year
which is loaded on CSX at LaBelle, Pa., but have no idea how many cars get
loaded for those orders.
One of our friends commented on the vid I took of CSX WB thru Mather,
that this is NS track but CSX has track rights, however all trains are
manned by NS personnel. I don't remember who told us that, but if I did
I would give him the credit for telling us that.
In the videos I made at Mather forgot to tell you that Atlas RR Construction
company built the Cumberland Mine RR. At that time they had a tie plant
in Mather. All our original ties came from that plant and the track was
built by UMWA construction workers there as track panels, then trucked
to Cumberland's RR, about 10 or so miles away. Mather is about 1 mile
from Stoney Point Bridge looking from behind me on the bridge.
CSX WB thru Mather
• 2 CSX Locomotives with...
Stood in the rain for a half an hour waiting for that train to come through… That’s dedication.
This becoming my favorite RR channel. The insider commentary, the standing in the rain for our benefit. This is great RUclips aint it?
It was all because I knew you would be watching and wanted
to please you sir.... Appreciate your watching the show today
Thank you Bill, very glad to hear you are enjoying these home movies, I do appreciate your viewing them sir
Great video Dave! We have the BNSF running along the Mississippi River by us, and almost all of the trains are very long container trains from Duluth or lumber/oil from Canada. They almost always have bright shiny engines pulling them, but yesterday we saw a train go by pulled by two battered old engines, and the back one was so rusty and faded you couldn't see a logo - it's like it was escaping from the scrap yard! That entire train was different as well - lots of very painted up box cars and very mixed other cars. Very unusual. Have a great day!
Thanks my friend, glad you like the show. BNSF takes really
good care of their rolling stock but like you say, every now and
then there's one that really could use a paint job! Your so busy
on the homestead when do you have time to rail fan? Or were
you taking the wife to town to buy bird seed and just happened
to catch one??? LOL
@@ccrx6700 It almost looked like a ghost train - it was really bad. Do the major train companies let other companies use their tracks sometimes? I don't think that train was even BSNF.
@@PlanetMojo yep they share track with each other along with locos and cars
@@ccrx6700 Well that's good to know. It almost looked like this train had snuck onto the track 😉
Great video Dave, enjoyed it. The overhead was awesome !!!!
Thank you Ron, glad you liked seeing it. Was fun to make,
and do appreciate your watching sir
Thankyou for the video. Hope you get some nice weather soon. Always a treat to see video from you. Happy Rails 👊👍
Thank you John, appreciate your watching sir, glad you are
liking these
Boy, I sure like seeing coal on the move. The uniformity of unit trains is pleasing to my eyes. Not much coal fines coming out of the bottoms of those bathtub gons. Thanks Dave for getting soggy for us. Come to Arizona and you'll dry out aplenty! Hahaha!
Thank you glad you enjoyed today's episode appreciate your viewing 👍
Now that folks was a lot of coal.........read as “electricity”. Great video from the bridge, thanks for sharing.
Thank you Richard nice you liked the show 👍
So that noise is slack snapping into tension. I've never been sure until now. Thank you. And Congratulations on 10,000 viewers 👏👏
It's nice to hear there is a Mrs. CCRX. Maybe sometime she could shoot some video clips of you at work. Your close-ups are great, but some things might also look good in a more distant shot. Imagine "Here's Dave dumping rock" or "Dave is raising the track an inch". Your fans would love her too! Keep up the good work and be safe.
Thanks Alan glad your enjoying the shows. Got a GoPro cam so am learning how use it and doin some experimenting see how things turn out. Doubt if Mrs. Gonna come work with me, but I definitely hear what you're saying bout the diff shots. Got a mini tripod so will see what I can come up with in future for ya. Got a new 9 video series coming out this week on a major derailment we had, hope you'll enjoy those vids 🌝
But since you have taken 2 beautiful baths with the rain. Nice Video with one Coaltrain. Greetings from Berlin/ Germany. Sven
Glad you enjoyed Sven 🌝
I love your videos! Your enthusiasm and passion are so contagious!
Thank you LuAnn, glad you are being entertained and do appreciate
your viewing them
I love all of your videos and stories on RUclips on trains everyday they are good train videos.
Thank you Eugene, glad you enjoyed today's show 🌝
Cool video on a rainy day. Thanks 😊
Thank you Dennis, nice to know you liked today's show sir
@@ccrx6700 I like all your videos my friend 😁👍
Nice horn action.Good catch 🚂🚞🚞🚞🚞🚞🚞🚞🚞🚞🚞🚞
Glad you enjoyed the show, appreciate your watching
@@ccrx6700 Thanks for sharing 🚂 🚞 🚞🚞🚞🚞🚞🚞🚞🚞
awesome, thank you sir! that's alot of coal
Thanks David, nice you liked today's show, appreciate your
watching sir
When did Norfolk southern office leave town,and were did they moveto,because now Norfolk southern is the mow office,I know were mather is and all those locations, thanks Dave for sharing train videos.
Good question David, I really don't know when that happened, but
you are right it now MOW office,seems like it been maybe 10
or so years ago? All of NS dispatch for their entire system is
in Atlanta now, alas, the wonders of modern technology
Great video Dave! I was about ready to ask if you inspected the rails! Then you mentioned they had a mud hole. :)
Thanks Brian, of course track was first thing, had make sure it was safe for them run on... lol appreciate your viewing the show today 🌝
Rail Fan'n in the rain, I'm pretty sure that disease is contagious. But who am I to talk, the other day I waited for 2 hours to record 15 seconds in the baking sun for the 611 to roll by. LOL Have a great day my friend.
Awesome Anthony! That would have been worth it. I saw it arrive
last year on Paradise rail cam but missed it this year. Hope you
get to ride her! Haven't forgotten am gonna look you up if we
get to Lancaster County, although not planning on making
the trip this year
Hey Dave !!! What DO you MEAN ""DAY OFF"" !!!! GET TO WORK !!! HA HA Great catch & Thanks !!! What kind of ""BIRD FEED "" ???? We use ""PENNINGTON "" for our birds & We have ""OUTDOOR"" CATS & the birds LOVE the cat food too !!!! HAHA Have a good weekend & as always """KEEP IT SAFE ""!!! Did you see Jaw Tooth's video of Cass RR ??? They were there for Vacation !!!
Ha Ha, actually worked all day prior to this with my son in his
excavating business, what I really wanted to do was take a nap
but mrs. ccrx said we going to get bird seed, but glad she did,
took nap when I got home...LOL She gets Pennington sometimes too, will tell her bout giving the birds cat food! Thanks K B for watching sir
@@ccrx6700 Yepper !! Nap time is good !! Cat food is cheaper than bird seed now !!! Have a good week & ""KEEP IT SAFE ""!!
Wow, 80 railcars, Network rail or one of the other operators would be asked some pretty awkward questions if we ran any trains that long and why they took so long to go over any level crossings here in the UK!
LOL, can you imagine them having some of the monster 15,000 foot
trains some of them run in US. Most unit trains on the line you saw
in video are 120 cars, this was a real short one for this branch, could
only think it must have been a special order?
Nice !!!!
Thanks James, appreciate your watching and pleased that you
liked the home movie
Always wondered what causes that loud banging sound coming from the wheels? I can hear it from one of the first few cars. I always wondered that.
Thank you for checking out the CSX loaded coal train show. I made a video some time ago John where you can hear the flat spot on the wheel as train is going down track and then I will show you what that flat spot looks like if you would like to watch that video: ruclips.net/video/wbjHC1YzHWg/видео.html
Thank you for putting a link to that video. Very interesting stuff I am a new subscriber, and learned a lot from your videos. Keep up the good work!
80 loaded coal cars, quite a weight to haul! Video'd by a gentleman taking a busman's holiday! To those who like to tut-tut over locomotive exhaust emissions, consider this; it'd likely take a 600 hp truck to pull the load in one rail car - that's 48000 hp to pull that train load at more than a crawl. So where does the efficiency lie?
Excellent point Colin! Well stated sir 👍
Trains run 24 hours a day in all types of weather and Ive got some favorites over the years with reflections and glistening grass. You gotta know the territory!
You are so right in all of that Paul! Hope someday you'll gonna
post some of those for us
Dave, does the rain hurt the coal much? Does all the mines load out coal on the barges on the river at the same place?
Good question Alaina. We have had since 1977 all open top
hopper cars and with all the barges we've loaded that may take
a week or so before they get unloaded at a power plant. So
rain is going to get on the coal. It doesn't seem to make that
much difference. Many power plants stockpile millions of tons
and that coal sits out in the weather before it may be used.
Biggest problem is when really wet or frozen coal plugs up
feeders at the power plants, but we cannot do anything about
that here.
Each mine has it's own loading facility, there is no one central
location for all the mines to load barges or trains.
Hey Dave! Can you please explain what the term “Cool Drag” means exactly ? Loaded/Empty ? Thx!
Very good question Ken, old timer railroaders often referred to
coal trains as drags, In railroading the term drag refers to the resistance to motion of a train to the
weight of a train. So because way back coal
loads were in relation to other types of cars were pretty heavy and
created a lot of resistance (as they still do) so that is why
they were called drags as they created a lot of resistance because
of the weight. Hope that helps and thanks for watching sir
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Thanks for watching Tom 👍
Hey Dave, thanks for braving the rain 🌧 for us, great catch loved the bridge shot. Bird seed is your lucky charm.
Thank you, i think you're right, but i'm lettin mrs ccrx think she's my lucky charm 😉
@@ccrx6700 oh yes thats a better idea, lol
Ok...Google Mapped your vid...
You're looking South from the Rte 188 Bridge. Wilson Forest Products is just east of the bridge...
Checking elevation, train is on a down grade coming out of the Southview curve.
Once under the bridge, you are headed NE in a upgrade, into Jefferson. Then down grade east of Jefferson.
Elevation wise, CSX ROW Waynesburg is at 285m, ROW at the Rte 188 bridge is 263m. Upgrade to 269m, levels off at 267m through Jefferson, then starts down grade to 265m east of Jefferson.
Tenmile Creek and CSX ROW finally reach the Monongahela at 234m elevation.
Took a while to find everything...
Wow awesome Donald, you are amazing sir! Wilson indeed to
the left of the bridge. I don't know how you find all this stuff out! Kinda thought the engines were in dynamics
coming under the bridge, but not being totally sure didn't say
it on the video, but your research shows that was probably true.
Just missed me I took that train south up the manor branch to Bailey this morning.
Awesome Derek! So cool to have you watch this!!!!
Thanks for braving the elements. To me, there's nothing more peaceful, than listening to a train, in the rain or snow. Great video!
Thank you glad you liked the show 👍
Another great video , I tried counting the loads dave, I got 79 , give or take 1 or 2. I beleive!
Thanks Jeff glad you liked it, appreciate your viewing of today's
show sir
That's railroadin'. Very cool Dave.
Thank you Jeff, glad you liked the show today 👍
"Ballast Deck Bridge" , Learned something new here this morning 👍🏻, There's an un-used but maintained stretch of track about 100 yards behind my house, I walk it a few times a week and where it crosses the highway there's a "Ballast Deck Bridge" , Thanks for sharing this!👍🏻👍🏻
Great overhead shot of that CSX Dave thanks for sharing
Your welcome David, nice to know you enjoyed the show today,
thank you so much for viewing it
Will have to check out all your videos. Air and how the brakes work. Simi we had brakes bit 2 lines. Most people have no clue.
LOL you're much different when you're not on the jobsite.
I think he could not find a excuse. And like me he come up with bird see for wife. Has to be true. Lol
Thank you for posting. Best regards from Los Angeles CA
Glad you enjoyed the show Artie, thanks for viewing sir
Love the main line action. Good Stuff 😀
Love watching these trains----must be the little girl in me! Great shot from that Stoney Point bridge!
Thanks glad you liked it 🌝
awesome timing ccrx 6700
"Ha ha. It's CCRX 6700 again this time bringing a CSX coal train to you folks."
Interesting video of how "other roads" move black diamonds.
Thanks Stephen nice to know you liked this one, appreciate your viewing today's show 👍
Interesting about the ballast bridge. Never knew.
Glad you found something new out. If you watch VR railcams
at Waupaca on the left of the screen is a ballast deck bridge also.
Thank you for viewing today's show
Love watching your videos here at Fort Hood Dave, they make me smile!😀
Really glad to hear that William, thank you so much for
viewing today's show sir
Looked like two Dash 9 44CW's (shocked one if not both were not burned up on the sides LOL) and counted 80 hoppers, guessing that's around 10,000 ton? Ten mile is pretty nice, used to go to Greene Cove Yacht club. Great video thanks for posting 👍🏼😎
Your welcome glad you liked the show today. Don't know bout
these cars but our 5 bay aluminum cars are 286,000 pounds so
figure these are pretty close to that so you can figure train weight.
Ever go to Packerall's Bay to eat? It wasn't bad place. bout 8 years
ago an NS train hit a water truck on that crossing, had the truck turned over. Greene Cove still there. They made a bike trail out
of the old Monongahela RR track from there to Nemacolin if
you remember that. That line was a long, long time ago tho, the
trestle crossing over 10 Mile is still there so I'm sure you have
seen that, it's right at the mouth of 10 Mile going into the river.
Nice catch Dave!! CSX power pulling that train is foreign power with NS Crew
Power is pulled from available pool. Have seen multiple UP and BNSF and KCS,along with CP and CN on CSX Main in South Carolina down by Charleston. Had a could catch about 2 weeks ago with a northbound manifest. Consist was Ferromex, KCS and 2 CP units(1was a CP DPU) heading to Baltimore. Enjoy your videos and how you explain tr rack maintenance at Cumberland. Be safe and take care
Thank you Robert, really glad you are enjoying the home movies. Appreciate your watching sir 👍
Yeah really it amazing how technology has to work all the way from Atlanta ga,ns dispatch
It really is David. I know the entire BNSF system is controlled
out of Fort Worth, they are one big RR and to only have 1 center to control it all is totally amazing to me. Thanks so much for watching
With all the fun railfanning did you get your wife's bird feed?
Now Rick.... I'm sure your married and if wife sent you to get
bird seed for her, would you dare come home without it ....LOL
Yep and the patient Mrs. CCRX was sitting in the truck waiting
for me as this was shot. Thanks for watching my friend.
Rail fan
Ballast deck bridge. I will mark That one down. You know all the good places! Thank you for sharing.
I've lived here all my life Shirley, so ought to know a little something
about the area....:-) Really appreciate all the wonderful support
and great comments you have given us my friend.
How long are these coal trains? Here in Canada I often count 140+ cars and two Locomotives. One up front and one in the middle. Your videos are very refreshing and send me down to the tracks for some train spotting and wishing it was steam Locomotives.
Definitely wishing there were still steam on these trains also my friend!!! Here usually around 120 or so cars. Have a video coming
out sometime where I got an NS train in the same spot with 210 cars
and 3 mid DPU's! Longest train I've ever seen around here. Appreciate
your watching the show today sir.
ccrx 6700 attaches his camera to his hip.... ready at a moments notice. quick draw, in the rain as we are as well.
LOL Frank...that one made me smile! thanks for watching sir
Nice bridge view! I like those as you can really hear the power from the engines as they pass ;)
Great Brian nice to hear you liked that, glad you enjoyed today's show sir
You can feel the power!
@@mikeznel6048 Especially if you're standing there :)
@@mikeznel6048 👍
This man is amazing he owns a railway and yet on his day off he railfans.
LOL the kid in you my friend shines thru.
Lol, well almost, i work RR, not own one, but even if I did would still be here 😉 appreciate your watching 👍
All the buildings a train set layout might have and bridges too.
Yep, i think NS went to some really good modeling shows, got some ideas and made everything from what they saw model raikroaders do ... lol. Seriously i am totally impressed how some layouts are, they ate just awesome to see
Train, a little smoke, and rain lol to cool you off. Doesn't get any better.
Was a good day Rupert! Glad you enjoyed the video sir
Just looked that up, you are way SW in PA, almost to W Va and Ohio.
Yep, bout hour south Pittsburgh, thanks for viewing today's show Gerald 👌
Nice video including the overhead shot of the train.
Glad you enjoyed it, kinda scarry standing on that bridge with
all the cars zooming by, but for your sake I risked my life for
this shot....LOL Thanks for viewing today's show sir
@@ccrx6700 You are very welcome and standing on bridges also makes me a little nervous especially with drivers now days.
With the rain she keep the pollen and whatever coal dust down
Actually Mike was grateful for the rain, it had been getting
pretty dry here. We needed it. Appreciate your watching sir
Coal Drag, some more railroad'n terminology ?
Don'[t know where that term originated but that's what old timer railroaders used to call a coal train for whatever reason, good
question Imma gonna have do some research cause now
you got me curious why they called it that. Drag in railroadin is the ratio of resistance to motion of a car or train, or also called
train resistance, so am guessing cause the coal produced a heavy
resistance that is why they called them coal drags?
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Glad you enjoyed and thanks for watching.
Great video Dave. I really enjoyed the view.
Thanks Lewis, good to hear you enjoyed, it was a pretty cool place
to catch a train
They need a expert to view there train. And you seem that to me !
Thank you Ronald, but I'm only an expert at getting the wife
bird seed....LOL Appreciate your watching sir
The wife shows great patience.
Lol, yep she used to me by now... thanks for watching 👍
Short or long videos Dave I just enjoy watching them great job my friend. By the way the picture clarity is AWESOME.
Thanks Russell, appreciate the comment sir. Got a GoPro which
helps with clarity and stabilization, still got bout 7 or 8 videos I
made with the phone that haven't posted yet, but new cam makes a difference.
@@ccrx6700 Looking forward to the videos.
Nice thanks for taking the time
Your welcome glad you liked it 👍
Thanks for the videos!
You're welcome Robin, glad you liked the show today.
You got a very good thinking mind sir, I like a person who
is a thinker and is not afraid to search outside the box. Wish
we could get together sometime and talk.
Thanks for a great video.
Your welcome Clyde, very pleased that you liked viewing today's
show sir
Great vid👍
Thank you nice to hear you were pleased with today's home movie,
swell of you to watch
I come here to enjoy the laughs of CCRX 6700 🤣👍
Well at least there some entertainment value in these vids ...lol do appreciate your viewing 👍
PLEASE make(or have made) .wmv. files of several of your laughs as 'stand alone" so they can be used say for a Cellphone ringtones, etc. I'll donate as well, OK?
an 80 car drag!
Don't get to see that short of a train much anymore, was
kinda unique. ONly thing better is if they had 2 EMD;s leading
instead of GE's, but a guy can dream can't he.... Thanks for
viewing today's show sir
80 coal cars
Yep that what I counted too, thanks for viewing today's show
Good shot
Thank you Wayne, glad you liked it! I did too 👍
When we gonna get some street running thru West Brownsville?
Lol, was down there this winter, waited half day for that shot and of course didnt see a thing. The west end yard was completely empty too, looked like ghost town. Dummy me didnt think bout it but could have caught this one there
@@ccrx6700 that’s the first place I’d even seen street running July 2008. We were testing track durning “Hell Week”. First time I learn about CP Sheetz also. Lol
@@emknapp6713 👍
I wish we lived closer Dave id have to sneak you in the cab. The excitement is awesome ...we got some much needed rain today too. Not much but every drop was needed
👍 yes sir, we'd have a great day my friend
@@ccrx6700 it does my heart good to see coal running out of up there ....so many jobs are connected to coal. So many are out of work down here because the mines have all but shut down
@@jasonking2943 yep, coal industry vital to this counties economy, was a real hurt when Emerald closed it doors 5 years ago
Where do I need to live, to "sneak" in the cab? Asking for a friend......lol.
Another good one Dave, thanks. Hey, did you hear the joke about the railfan who always gets to see a train when he takes his wife to buy bird seed, me neither but he has enough seed to feed all the birds on the planet. That's railroading and railfanning!
LOL loved that one Rick! My wife spends more money on feeding
the birds than anything else. If you ever want to reincarnate as a
bird come to our back yard. Glad you enjoyed the show sir. PS 5 times this year I have taken her to get seed and 5 times have
caught a train here, unbelievable, I tell her she my good luck
charm.
@@ccrx6700 Well if you see an old grey headed crow in the back yard, it might be me! Wish me and my train watching buddy would've had her luck many a lonely night while we were waiting on ghost trains to show up. But that's railroading as you say it Dave. Thanks my friend!
@@rickcooper6817 yep Rick will make sure that bird gets a lot of seed! Just lucked out on this vid, i've sat many an hour waiting with no results. Used be before I started making vids we'd see a train almost every hour thru here but mines have shut down plus market is soft, now lucky see 1 every 4 hours
@@ccrx6700 Train watching is kinda like fishing. Sometimes it's just being where ever you're at that makes the trip. Especially when with a good pal. Thanks again and stay safe at work.
Thanks for the video I miss this I am from Canonsburg
Your welcome. Question for ya, is that the AVR that runs thru Canonsburg?
@@ccrx6700 no it is the Pittsburgh and Ohio Central I believe the AVR runs on the old B&O to Washington
@@TheFireco69 excellent, thank you 👍
@@ccrx6700 no problem and I really enjoy your videos
We needed this rain bad.
Yes we did! Thanks for watching sir!
Rain? What's rain? 😄 we average around 2 inches for the entire year here. Could you send some our way?
@@michaelball760 why sure, did you want that USPS or FedEx
Your videos are simply the best I can't say enough! And your commentary is great! Hearing it from someone who knows what they're talking about is awesome, And does that line of work. Thank you for sharing with us!
Wow, very nice comment, so glad that you are enjoying these
home movies, I do so much appreciate your watching them
Whats amazing is you and how you share these amazing videos thank you. Your the man good sir.
Thank you, glad you liked this one, was fun to make. I do
appreciate your watching
Nice catch , I can tell you had a great day in spite of the rain . Thanks for sharing the trip .
Thanks Jerry, yes it was a good day, do appreciate your viewing today's show sir
Nice chase!
Thank you, really glad you enjoyed watching sir
You checking out the competition dave.
Hey Kenn! Hope you doing well sir, had a fun day off
Leaving on a fishing trip in the morning, be up in WI for a week.
@@kennkrizsanitz7820 good luck Kenn!