OTTO LINK METAL V HARD RUBBER V PLASTIC SAXOPHONE MOUTHPIECE
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Generally speaking you can always tell mouthpiece material from the initial transient. The attack. Even with good tonging technique, Plastic always sounds pinched. Metal has a "ping" and rubber more of a "thud"
AlvinCornista Music that’s so true, I never really noticed
Very cool! I got the metal and the hard rubber mixed up but it seems obvious listening back. I found the metal piece most appealing because it produced a nice, clean cut, warm tone.
Thanks I'm only 2 years in on my alto looking to upgrade my mouthpiece
Loving this test and your honesty
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Those mic surrounds don't do much in the first place, but in that tiny space with the mic directly facing a whiteboard it makes next to no difference. The most important thing to address in reducing room sound is the reflectiveness of the surfaces facing the mic capsule, and playing in front of a super flat, hard surface is the worst thing you could possibly do. You don't hear a pronounced echo here, but only because the wall is so close; the echo is still there but it is a super early reflection, which means that it blends with the original source sound, which is a bad thing because this delay really means it is out of phase, which in turn means that when they combine the effect is really cancellation of certain frequencies.
I personally feel that difference is in the feel of the piece, more than the sound. While the vintage pieces did sound better, the plastic didn't sound bad. The response and feel of the piece to the player makes of a difference in the longer view, and is , imo, more important in the long run.
Thanks for the comparison. I could id the metal Link, but couldn't tell the difference between the stock & HR Link.
Lovely tone on all of them.
I have an Otto Link in rubber and metal. Same tip opening. I find the metal works much better for me.
I actually liked the plastic one the most. Surprised me
I'm sure I can tell a plastic apart. It just doesn't sound as full as the others, and the tongueing sounded different. Once I was sure about that I wasn't even bothered about being able to tell the metal from the hard rubber. So this video has taught me not to settle for plastic, at least. I always appreciate thses types of video so thank you. I have in a short time to upgrade my mouthpieces for bari and tenor, both of which were a quick and not very well thought choice from the start. So many choices.
Just found this. Things like this on line drip feed the interest so Thanks Dan.
I got the first 2 mouthpieces right. Not without doubts in my mind but yes it was based upon my expectations of what each piece would probably sound like. So by the time I listened to the 3rd one I had already committed to the other 2. Then when I heard that last one it was my favourite of the 3 and that actually fitted with my preconception. I don't think it was luck but unless you do another test we'll never know ;-)
Hey Dan - I actually liked the Yani quite a bit ! Great tone and interesting comparison. The slant sig was beautiful but your excellent playing is really what matters. Happy new year.
+Nick Caplanson thanks Nick, very kind of you
I did guess them right. There is a fat sound with the metal, and a kind of raspy sound with the hard rubber link. The difference was not night and day though. All of them sounded like you.
Nice video !!! Thanks for de information!!!!
First time watcher! Thanks for the video. it opened up some food for thought for me.
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1st time watcher! Thanks so much!! Trying to make the switch from student horns to pro. This is very informative, and helps me in deciding what mouthpiece to move on to. I love the current Otto Link metal V for my tenor (Selmer Bundy at that), and actually discovered its benefits as a result of a friend giving it to me. Next.....what to get for the Alto! Conn 21M - LOL!
Good stuff Dan--I actually guessed the blind test right! LOL Man, how many times do you hear of someone jumping on a really expensive MP because they thought it was the 'ticket' to sounding good, then they get all bummed because they still pretty much sounded like themselves...and that's because of our own internal anatomy and our own concept of sound. With each MP you did a blind test on, you could hear minor variations between them, but your basic core sound was there. Very cool, thanks for sharing.
Wow.. no joke but guessed right. Nice playing. 90% you but the piece leaves a stamp too. You sound lovely on all of them. First one just sounded a bit one dimensional to my ears, good, but not as colorful. So I guessed that was the ........(don't want to give it away!) I was surprised I got the next 2 right. Just something about the second one sounded like my own though we sound nothing alike, weird I know but just something about it.
HI Dan, i got the Yani as the 1st one but got the Links the wrong way round, in my opinion the Slant HR is a killer
Hi I currently play on an old Lawton mouthpiece which I really like but have been looking at the SYOS for a bit of a change... What's your thoughts ?
Enjoyed the video!
I'm just a crappy hobbyist who started to play again after more than 20yrs forsaking the horn. But the general opinion I've formed is that mouthpieces, for me, are about comfort, response, and resistance. The sound seems to come from me. I already spent enough $ on two boutique pieces, but I'm done. :-)
Enjoying wasting time on your vlog.
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There is not a bit of differenceon the sound, all depends on the song and attack, the difference is on the players comfort ,there it matters, the sound is like believing in ghosts: did you hear that? Did you see that?
Mouthpieces sound the same until you push them.
Work song is awesome
The hard rubber one is more likely to be damaged if dropped. I know this personally :(
For me - vintage Otto Link metal.
After watching many mouthpiece comparison videos, and not hearing a difference, I'm of the same opinion as the others. It's the player, not the equipment.
Hey Dan, what pop screen/isolation chamber have you got for your microphone there? Any recommendations?
This is something like judging the manual transmission car vs the automatic transmission car based on "has the car arrived at destination"? It is the wrong question asked here. Not everything listener hears or does not hear makes a difference. It is > how the mouthpiece responds to the requests of a player
I agree, I couldn't hear too much of a difference, but I remember trying out different mouthpieces a whole ago and how drastically different each felt to play.
I just started tenor with a YTS-62 and stock mouthpiece and Vandoren reeds. Is this crap? I want to steer my tone to a smooth Ben Webster or Stan Getz sound. What is the general direction I would go in terms of mouthpieces and reeds and opening? Very nice video, and informative.
Both Webster and Getz played Links - Webster a metal one, and Getz a rubber. I know Getz played a 6* and used Vandoren #4 traditional (blue box) reeds. Not an easy setup...Webster I'm not sure but I'd guess the tip opening was larger and the reed was softer...
I got it all wrong . I am going to buy a cheap Chinese model for £2.20 on eBay
lol sssh don't tell the music shops ;)
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I won't! lol
The Slant. Or the Link. Yani was kind of dull.
What was blurred out on the board?
+Classical Saxophonist no idea something confidential I think!