Space Wolves vs Harlequins Warhammer 40k Battle Report 9th Edition 2000pts S9EP30 PACK HUNTERS!
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- Space Wolves vs Harlequins Warhammer 40k Battle Report 9th Edition 2000pts S9EP30 PACK HUNTERS!
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"I don't know how clowns taste". That's easy they taste funny
The dreadnought cannnot use the second fnp to ignore the mortal wounds again. It can use its inbuilt to ignore the 1 wound from the guns. Page 222 core rulebook and pg 365 Ignoring wounds, in the glossary if thats easier.
Thunderwolf can advance and charge.
YES! I was like what the fff when they decide to chill :D
Damnit I just opened this video and seeing this comment is disheartening lol. Every single Space Wolves batrep is being played by people that forget the best rules and strats!!! 🥲
Also forgot that saga of the wolfkin grants 1d3 extra attacks in the first fight in turn 2. Also SW have a strat for any of them to try to deny psykers.
It is a warm-up battle. Maybe he's saving the advance and charge for a league battle
You guys forgot to advance and charge on turn two with the Thunderwolf Cav.
Yeah I don't know why he didn't advance and charge, would have meant all the cav charges would have gone off
I specially like the gaming table. Very well made scenery arrangement with all pipes buildings & stuff.
I'm not sure about the list. Putting the armour of russ on a walking rune priest means that it will never get into combat. Giving the rune priest a jump pack means he can keep up with the advancing troops and use his psychic powers and use the cloaked strat. If you give him the power that makes a unit fight last, he has the ability to makes 2 units fight last with the armour of russ. Also the thunderwolves need to advance and charge each turn. If you give the wolf lord the Hunter trait he can give the cavalry the ability to fall back and charge once he gets his saga off. Long fangs with no heavy weapons? Pop a squad in a drop pod behind the lines and harass the enemy. Taking a terminator in the blood claws is great but no storm shields? A terminator with shield has a 1+ save so it will soak up heaps of shots saving your smaller troops.
good tips:)
@@StrikingScorpion82 the only purpose to include terminators in infantry units is to tank small arms fire (or probably any type of fire) on them. You should keep in mind that this terminator only exists there to die in the end, so do not give him thunder hammer for 10pts - free lightning claw would be more then enough. Missile racks on long fangs without heavy weapons are actually make sense - dudes die to keep terminator with expensive war gear alive - but where is your assault cannon? is some old FAQ that was clearly stated, that when you replace stormbolter with stormbolter-n-missiles, you can then replace stormbolter from stormbolter-n-missiles again with anything more useful then stormbolter. And, by the way, maybe you try long fangs with actually heavy weapons protected by terminator with stormshield, so terminator dies to keep long fangs alive? And you definitely should try primaris chaplain on bike instead of wolf lord on thunderwolf. Both ride with cavalry, both grant rerolls to hit (as cavalry only have melee weapons), but chaplain can heal wolves, can grant +2 to charges and, if upgraded to master of sanctity, with 'wise orator' and 'hunter' is, I'm sure, best space wolves HQ choice for now.
I agree with pretty much everything. The RP with JP is clutch so he can keep up with the fast stuff and provide buffs. Consolidate LF into one squad with 4 or 5 heavy weapons. Hide them out of LOS or in a transport turn 1 then pop out, use strat to ignore hit penalties and go after biggest target. If there is no place to hide them then pay to Outflank them. Bringing a squad of heavy weapons into enemy backfield Turn 2 is no joke. Again, use strat to ignore hit penalties. If you're going to have Bjorn in the backfield put him in range to give LF reroll 1's.
I don't like BC on foot but it's probably too late for you to add Rhinos or Razorbacks now. Also I've found Infiltrators to be a great choice over the Reavers.
@26:00 I don't think you can double dip for your feel no pain. You can't armour of contempt at 5+ and then attempt those same wounds at 6+ with the normal feel no pain. So the original armour of contempt roll would only be against the mortal wounds, then for the unsaved wound you would 6+, not roll 3 which I believe 2 had already been attempted to be saved by the armour of contempt.
@1:10:17 - THE EMPEROR PROTECTS! Great game chaps
Taking Long Fangs without all of them having heavy weapons defeats the purpose. Might as well take Grey Hunters.
Long fangs are same points as Grey hunters but give you more weapon options. I do agree there should have been more heavy weapons, but not really any issue with the unit choice itself
A great game. As always, it was exciting to watch!
2 things I would like to add....
1. use Bjorn more aggressively. Save the points on the Lascannon and send him into the fray. He is a beast and can take a beating with T8, -1dmg , 6fnp.
2. 37:10 remember the strat which gives your guys -1 to hit protection in 6" around your priest. This is in my eyes one of the main arguments for the priest in your list.
In the future I propose to have "The Clash of Glass Hammers": Drukhari vs Harlequins...what do you think?
Yes 👍 I play both armies and would love to see 👀 that
Yes please in a league matchup😃
Great game, and loved to see the epic saga of the Wolf Lord!
All those Firstborn Space Wolves, love it
Awesome stuff gents! Really love the look of the board and armies on this one! But gentleman.... i spat out my Mjod crying the words Swift Hunters! Thunderwolves, Fenrisian wolves..... etc. Swift Hunters! Advance and charge and pilein/consolidate 4" instead of 3". You two young pups need to go back to Blood Claw school. hahahah
Name suggestion for the hammer wielding unkillable Wolf Lord haha...... Thorin Ironpelt.
39 Seconds ago, I was lucky to catch this one pretty fast.
Your faster than a Harlequin Sky Weaver !
Harlequins look amazing, but my money is on The Space Puppies !
Is there some rule that doesn't allow infantry to start on upper floors of ruins or the tops of buildings? Otherwise, why didn't the longfangs start on the upper floors of the ruins? Also instead of using 2 longfangs units with1 Wolf Guard with a Cyclone missile launcher each; the Space Wolf player should have taken 1 Longfangs Pack with a Wolf Guard Terminator with Cyclone missile launcher and Storm shield, and given 1 Lascannon and 3 Missile Launchers to the rest of the 4 longfangs for slightly less points with way more firepower.
The Wolf Lords name should definitely be Druss
The death jester 1 hit = 3 hits only applies to the shuriken profile not the shrieker.
Always love to see harlequins on the channel
There is no chance space wolves can win with the list build that bad... I'd like to watch the same list but with non-bongcloud war gear in the same fight...
Quins bikes are S4 btw, not 5
What a massaker, but Aaron has to know his rules ;) with advance and charge maybe a charge is complete....and dont forget the 6 flailattacks with your DG in the next game ;)
Quick question Luke, but did you paint your Harlequins Troupe players yourself, or are those models a commission job?
Looking to start a Harlequin army in the new year, so aiming to get as much info on the paint scheme as possible (I know you've done a painting tutorial on the Harlequin transport vehicle..... But if you painted their infantry models yourself, a tutorial video on that would REALLY be appreciated!)
Wolves needed more mobility. being picked off and shot and charged and not being able to charge back ugggg just so bad. Wolf Guard with jump packs way to go for that. Also Advance and Charging with thunderwolfs
1 squad of reveirs only, and don’t waste armour of Russ on rune priest, put it on wolf lord then can replace stron sheild with combi melta hitting on 2s +fight last
That space wolfs name - Vorsk the Clownhammer!
As much as I love your space wolves army (talking about the models here), it got outgunned and outmaneuvered quite badly by the harlequins. Clowns are scary for a reason. The Wolf Lord though was quite epic!!! Hopefully there are a few lessons learned and the army will continue to evolve!! Good luck to you both in future matches.
And if you want some tips/hear some thoughts of a SW player...
The runepriest can be quite good, but he didn't get utilized much this game. Neither stormcaller (and the strat to buff it) nor his belt. Better have him run up with a big chunk of troops/melee squads in the center next time. Speaking of which - perhaps one large squad of bloodclaws could do that. It is great to have minisquads holding objectives, but seeing a melee one like bloodclaws sit in the corner of the map till the end of the game did hurt a bit. Maybe you can repurpose the reviers to be infiltrators haha :D
Then there is the dread with the axe and shield. As good as wisdom of the ancients is, maybe it's time to let it be a wulfen dread instead. Just as good in melee, but the advantage compared to Venerable on is that i's not only cheaper, but one BIG thing: Movement 8" and rerollable charges. Especially the latter would make Aaron happy.
As for the long fangs - unlike the devastors they can take 5 heavy weapons (6 with the termi)! Take advantage of that. You don't have to go wild and give them all multimelta's but maybe something cheap like heavy bolters or gravcannons. Not only that, with access to "keen senses" strat (1CP) they ignore any ballstic skill modifiers. Meaning shooting at units in cover or protected by some power wont mean anything AND you can move and shoot their heavy weapons without penalty.
Let the hunt commence! Glory to the Rout!
you cannot target The Murderfang with the voidweaver on turn 2 - character dreadnought.
He can benefit from Look out sir as Murderfang is a character but... It looks like I'm Turn 2 he is the closest unit and visible so... He's fair game 😭
It’s probably the displacement fields on the clowns vehicles that is messing up their charging rolls thinking the harlequins are closer than they appear.
This was over before the battle begun. Like an old Nintendo game of shooting ducks on their way forward. It will be interesting to see of the Clowns will face Drukhari in a league game so there will be some form of even game.
(1:02:17) should the wolf lord on thunderwolf not be hitting the troupe master on 2's since he was charged? Or is the troupe master -1 to hit?
Don't think you should ever have a TM fight before 5 Troup, felt that was one of the biggest mistakes. Quins are great in melee, but if the TM is lost then most of your armies melee potential goes with it.
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The wolflord should be Heimdal Ironside
Not sure if the SW player has played against Eldar before, but those secondaries don't feel like the wisest choice. The list really doesn't feel like it has much synergy either, just a bunch of disparate parts. Hopefully they can stand up to the clowns.
Awesome and Happy Friday!
Fun game to watch! Always love seeing the cousins of my dark kin on the table! As far as advice for the lists go for Aaron I feel like the list is missing some great overall game plan. The 3 conveniently blast Sized obsec that dies quickly in the blood claws is asking to be out played on the objectives. The walking wolf priest is too slow to make effect of that relic, give it to someone like the captain to help make them more lethal or give the priest the jump pack again so he can keep up. Long fangs just feel terrible to basically pay a 90 pt tax for 2 not even that great anti tank shots on a BS3 platform. I would replace it with something like eradicators so you can use cool rules like Transhuman. Also replace every one of the dreads with 3 Redemptors with macro plasma. My buddy runs his around here and picks people up, being able to heroic with such a good all round unit makes them invaluable imo. Loved the game as always 🦂!
It is nice to see a space marine list that is not centered on redemptors. Space marines have become boring because of this.
32:56 Zephyrglaives are S4, not S5. So they can’t wound T4 on 2+ with +1 to wound
Nice thematic Space Wolves list, I like it already! Also that the newer fighters, the Primaris, have to go into melee is following Space Wolves tradition as they are Reivers and thus supposed melee units.
Bloody Nora! Another siege studios army. They look brilliant, by the way! I assume he gets a discount for bulk or is just pretty well off. I got quoted £1,000 for a gold level Ragnar Blackmane, way out of my reach, and then £500 for a silver level. It made me feel very poor, Oh well, maybe I will win the lottery one day 😂.
Are you seriously telling us the company were looking £1000 to paint a single character model, and not even to their top standard? Don't think so.
@@catspyjamas8005 It seriously did. I've just looked, and I've deleted the email with the first quote but for silver level they quoted £500 for painting and £579.47 in total.
Just found the original:
TOTAL = £1,172.49
Model Supply £30.49 + 50% Deposit = £601.49
Completion Payment = £571.00
Wow! That’s a ludicrous amount of money to paint a single infantry model. You can buy a good sized army for that price. People should be paid for their work, but that is just ridiculous.
with harvestor of torment u cant use that pivotal role with wail, only shuriken profile i believe..
How are you still using old secondaries?
Fendric the everlasting for the name of the wolf lord
Only halfway through, but that is some of the worst Harlequin rolling I've ever seen.
Wolf Lord Name: Gunnar Badmanson :D
Also, Clowns taste funny..
Wow really early "HI!!!" Speed says give it to the Harlequins....however I just see these doggies cleaning off objectives or killing off the goofy elves on their way in.
Drukhari might be a different story
Craftworld might be a different story
I AM STILL PUTTING MY BETS ON THE DOGGOS!!!
Jesters Bain for the wolf lord
Space wolves need help
What Masque were the Harlequins using?
AaaaaaaaRooooooooo !!!!!!!!!!!!
Did the thunderwolves and the wolf lord advance turn 2??
Unfortunately not... It's a shame that some battles are decided by something you forget rather then better tactics.
Awful play by the wolves player with a fluffy list that lost before you even played the game. I don't understand why these channels can't put together a space wolf list with a player who knows how to play to give them even half a chance.
Totally agree on that the game was lost even before it started.
I'm just about to start collecting SW's what units would you recommend?