This is what happened during a Restoration of a 1970's Tama Imperial Star! The horror. The joy.
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- Опубликовано: 13 окт 2024
- 1970's Imperial Star restoration, cleaning, repairing. Oh my. It never ended. Great results, but look at the horror. In the end, very happy, wonderful people!
Fantastic, what can I say great job,I also buy old kits and bring them back to life,I enjoy being retired
Damn that's a very awesome restored kit I'm very impressed you do awesome work thanks for the video I just found your channel a while back I enjoy watching it I'm a drummer from the '70s and it really like seeing you bring old stuff back to life have a great day man
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. I really appreciate that! More stuff to come.
Old Imperialstars are some of my favorite drums... so good to see folks breathing new life into them and saving them from a dumpster somewhere. Nice Fibrestar snare too!! Well done!
What is the brand of inhibited water meter cleaner you use? I'd like to try that on a few things I have needing similar cleaning. Thanks!!
Share Chemical company. Milwaukee. Dilute, do not use full strength. Dilute to start with about 10 to 20% and the rest water. Don't let it touch aluminum or cast parts that have any aluminum exposed like tapped holds that are threaded. Have a soda water neutralizing bath at the ready.
That snare though wow die cast hoops that’s awesome!
Nice work!
I spent three months restoring a Tama Imperial Star set from the 80s! This was a great video, really appreciated. I wanted to learn to play drums and bought them from some guy who just wanted rid of them. Said he'd had the reso heads off almost since he got them, so the bottom hoops were in bad shape. But NeverDull and quadruple aught steel wool did the trick. Never thought of Comet! Wish I'd used that on the cymbals. The NeverDull left a lot of residue on those... I was hearing never clean your cymbals, and almost didn't do it, but I do like the brighter sound now they're clean. :)
Metal can be dull or bright. It doesn't hurt them to make them look nice. I usually clean them, but don't buff them. Buffing can build heat if a machine is used. That could cause issues. Machine buffing can smooth out the grooves. I like clean cymbals.
@@jimflys2 good to know!
That was a great drum equivalent of seeing a before and after of a vintage car barn find! Absolutely love this video.
I have that same snare, that thing is awesome! Heavy... but awesome.
The kit can't be from 70-79 tho.... Tama was founded in 1974 and started making drums under their own name in 1975, before that the drums were branded Star or Hoshino so the kit must have been made between 1975 and 1979 if they never used that color in the 80's.
Sorry for nerding out on you, big vintage Tama (and other old Japanese) drum fan and I like history too so....
Bonus fun fact. The name Tama was the nickname Mr Hoshino had for his wife and it means Jewel.
Love it. Thanks. I was looking thru old catalogs and looking for the color match. I thought it was 1970 when they went to Tama. I knew about Star. Cool info in any case. Thanks!
@@jimflys2 You're very welcome! I recently restored a Star snare and that's how I found out about the exact dates. The Hoshino Camco factory made a lot of cool drums!
I love these older Japanese instruments.
I'm currently restoring a Pearl Jupiter on my other channel, if you're interested I've just put up part1
ruclips.net/video/g3NScUdSInc/видео.html
It's going to be a 3 or 4 part series showing the restoration.
This channel I'm on now is actually just an account I use for random RUclips video comments as I used to have videos of my kids on my private channel and sometimes I got into comment wars where people attacked my kids in arguments so..... hence the fake account.
But you seem to be a normal person so you're welcome on the other side too if you'd like.
Great work
Thank you so much 😀
The big beater on the speed king is from the Ghost pedal.
As I recall, he had a Ghost pedal in the trap case. Good eyes, bro!
Great restoration Jim! What does a project like this cost the person sending it to you? It’s gotta to be 4 hour or more time on this one? I love the color of the kit!
This was an incredible time 23 plus actual hours plus all the heads and parts. Everything was rusted. All lug casings came off for soaking and buffing. Some tension rods broke they were so frozen. $60 per hour shop rate. Parts, casings, rods, heads were over like $900. Good reason to play a 4 or 5 piece kit. Never get these type projects. Usually just a drum or two. This was massive.
Those drums turned out amazing! FYI you have a typo in the title.
Thank you! Correction made!
I did not know the Tama brand was out pre 1975!!! And I've been using them since 09
Yeah, I know. I did some research on these. Of course they were called Star before Tama in the late 60's.They revamped in around 72? Anyway, kind of cool.
Damn! is that a 16 inch Snare Drum?
It looks huge in the opening view!!
No, 14" - Must be the camera or angle.
hey great video, what do you do after the comet is on the cymbal? Do you just rinse it off or do you put some elbow grease and a rag to it and that's how you get it cleaned?
Thanks for asking. In this case, I just cleaned it with comet, rinsed and removed any residue. Wiped dry. I wanted them to remain kind of in the old school look, yet clean. You certainly can polish and there are a variety of compounds and cymbal polishes that will work. Eventually, they will tarnish again unless clear coated like Paiste does and Zildjian does as well. I have used auto polishing compounds, chrome cleaners etc. I had one band director insist on having his marching cymbals machine buffed to a mirror finish. I hated to do it because of removing metal and smoothing off grooves and I told him. He wouldn't have it. That's what he wanted and paid for, so that's what he got.
Good thing Drums didn’t warp.
What did you use to clean the cymbals? I play mostly old zildjian's and would love to give mine a cleaning.
Try this: Go to the 6 min mark. Comet! ruclips.net/video/W1FsgDFKJB4/видео.html
Do you possibly know where i can find all the parts for these drums? Im currently trying to restore one, but i only have the shells.
Only the shells? Ooh, that's going to be an expensive restore. You can get Tama lugs and other parts on Ebay and Reverb.com. But this is going to be so expensive. You might just want to find another Imperial Star kit and trade out parts as needed. If you are missing 10, that is one thing, but missing all the lugs, you will pay 5 to 10 per lug casing, plus tension rods and a couple of bucks each, plus T-rods for the bass drum at 5.00 or more each. Then heads for the whole thing. Pretty soon, you will be over the price of a nice, new set of Yamaha Stage Custom Birch, which are far better drums.
B-20 Bronze, a.k.a. "bell bronze" is 80% copper and 20% tin. Paiste almost exclusively uses B8 bronze (8% tin) and some older Paiste and Ludwig cymbals had nickel in them. Cheap cymbals have a high brass content or are all brass. Many consider B8 cymbals to be cheap but that depends on if they are cast vs stamp molded. John Bonham in fact played B8 Paiste 2002 series. And the 15" K Zildjian was likely worth as much as the entire set after restoration.
Agree on all points!
AMAZING work. It's a miracle that Metallic Gold wrap hadn't just cracked and completely fallen off as they often do. Is that bass drum a 22" or 24"? And is that second snare drum a Fiberstar?
Yes a Fiberstar! It was a 22" kick. The guy loved it. They were so patient.
Sir, I have a 1964 Gretsch drum set with a silver satin flame covering which is totally destroyed. Does anyone sell coverings or surfaces for such drums?
Precision Drum Company has it.
Barkeepers Friend in liquid for cymbals. Sponge and circular motion around. Works great and cheap.
Good to know! I just got a Paiste from the early 90s that someone had polished and removed the finish. So is was B8 BROWN! I polished it with NOXON and it looks great. Degreased and recoated to protect. No effect on the sound and it is what PAisTe does.
Hello! Would you be able to share the serial numbers with me? I have recently acquired a tama imperialstar kit in the same condition and am doing my best to date it via serial number comparison with other owners.
From my research so far I have deduced the following:
4 digit serial numbers denote 72-74
5 digit serial numbers denote 74-76
6 digit serial numbers denote 77-79
8 digit serial numners with the 80/81/82/83 etc. at the start are 80's on and denote the year in the first 2 digits.
Thanks so much for your help in advance!
84344 was on one of the drums. That was used for check in purposes for the invoice. So, this comports with what he said when he got it back in the 70's in Milwaukee. 74 or 75 I think is when he said he got it. Thanks for letting me know this info too. It had very fat re-rings, which I think I-Stars stopped using in the 80's based on a couple of smaller concert toms I had. At least they were less fat than these.
.. Imperialstar started in 74 along with all Tama.. prior to 74 they were Star brand and Japan stencil kits. The fat rering was until about 78 to about 81 had a thinner rering. Then no rering until they stopped making them in 1986 ( 1990 by special order). The Fibrestar is a 82 to 86 model. If that steel snare was original with the kit that dates it to 77 or so . King Beat snares prior to that used dual rods on the bottom. The style you have there is the 2nd version with nylon sliders.
Lots of mildew!
Yep