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@@TBRSchmitt hi from Lyon - France ^^ a clockwork Orange ( Orange mécanique for the french title ) Is one of these movies than you love it or you hate it .......Me , i love it ;) Acting is just awesome and the universe is so mad . I have 2 movies for you , a little in this kind of movies : 1/ Trainspoting (english humor so , of course hilarious ) , 2/ Requiem for a dream ( The most sad , disturbing , hard , and a little funny than i have saw ) A MUST SEE
The Shining was filmed in the same studio the Empire Strikes Back was made at which probably had Prowse in it. Back to back in fact. George Lucas had to wait because The Shining took longer to make then was scheduled for.
The problem with Kubrick's version of the story is that it is based on the AMERICAN version of Anthony Burgess' story, which (for reasons that Burgess explains in the foreword of an anniversary edition of the story) LEAVES OFF the final chapter of the story. In the FULL version, the final chapter is where Alex REFORMS from the criminal life of his adolescence. Without that character development, it DOES appear that violence is being "glorified" in Kubrick's film.
@@atlasisshrugging Yeah ... I actually thought the final chapter was really kind of a cop-out. I didn't buy it at all. It felt like a tacked-on ending to redeem the otherwise totally despicable anit-hero, and yet nothing really happened to reform him other than he got a little older. Kubrick's version, IMO, emphasizes the dark sarcastic comedy and social commentary. It's not glorifying the violence, it's showing how corrupt society is totally agnostic toward violence. Alex's evil nature is at first exploited to push an equally ugly method of forcing anti-society elements to conform to the system. When that backfires, the powers that be accept Alex into its fold. Is the real evil here Alex and his Droogs, or is it a system/culture that is this amoral? Reforming Alex in the end, again, IMO, makes the story become more about Alex's character evolution when it's so much more poignant when Alex's story is not really the central point, but simply using his story to point a satirical, darkly funny accusing finger at society, government, what have you.
@Necramonium The issue with cancel culture isn't limiting publishable works, it is that it aims to to end people's careers based on just accusations. "Necra said apples taste bad, make sure they never get any job ever again!" People have lost their job for publicly stating their support for the wrong party---in the US this year, for Christ's sake!
Burt Lancaster says exactly that in this clip. He also thought it was the best movie of '71: ruclips.net/video/1Oz4SysPbpw/видео.html Just in case you needed another reason to love Burt Lancaster, what a guy, and what an actor. This is from 1972, this interview.
"A Clockworld Orange"- refers to a person who “has the appearance of an organism lovely with colour and juice but is in fact only a clockwork toy to be wound up by God or the Devil or (since this is increasingly replacing both) the Almighty State. Agreed Kubrik film is something to experience.
@Zombie I thought it was more taking something organic and trying to force it into a mechanistic system. Like hammering a square peg into a round hole: it's gonna go horribly, horribly wrong.
Burgess lived in SE Asia for a while. Sri Lanka, maybe? Anyway, when he sent the manuscript to his editor it was called "A clockwork Orang" as in the Bahasa word meaning "person," (you know, like in "Orang Utan"person of the forest).It makes sense as the government wants to turn Alex into a machine. The editor's ignorance of what the author meant gave us the even crazier "A clockwork orange" which Burgess loved and stuck with.
Technically, this is "sci fi"..as it's set "in the future".. that's why they listen to music on little cassettes and drive a "Durango 98". But it's not a big aspect of the plot
Yeah, it’s set in the future but very much about the concerns of rising violence, especially youth violence, in both the US & UK that was occurring at the time. I mean this was right after riots, Charlie Manson, Richard Speck, and a spike in murders.
The sci-fi element comes from the fact that they're literally doing science experiments on him, not that it's set in the future. Just because something takes place in the future doesn't necessarily make it sci-fi but it's definitely futuristic, dystopian and has elements of science fiction in the plot.
Science fiction isn't just about the hard sciences, but also social sciences. For instance, Dune is very much an examination of politics and the various styles of leadership and their pitfalls. Another example would be Fahrenheit 451. ( No spaceships, Ray guns and monsters.)
That’s the rub, isn’t it? Alex is a monster, but he is still a human. The ludovicho technique stole his ability to be fully human. He was evil, but his evil was a choice. The project robbed him of the ability to choose evil, but also to choose good. He was stripped of his free will, his own agency over his life. They even took music that was meant for beauty and turned into something disgusting and vile. What was done to Alex was worse than his own crimes. What they did was a perversion of nature. To take something beautiful and make it ugly, to take something free and make it enslaved, to take something natural and make it unnatural. Like a clockwork orange. 🍊🤖
That's largely what I got of it too. Plus they not only took away his ability to commit sexual assault and violence, which is arguably a good thing, but also the ability to defend himself against anything. I remember marveling at how Kubrick took such an awful villain and ended up with us feeling bad and then even rooting for him to a degree. Masterful work.
They also did it for ultimately self serving reasons not to ensure public safety. We see that the authorities around Alex are with a few exceptions twisted in their own way. This is show particularly when his violent friends are now police officers and at the end when the government has no problem using Alex, a rapist and murderer to increase their popularity
"You felt ill this afternoon because youre getting better." A slyly hilarous line. Reminds of a more subtle variation on "you can't fight in here, this is the war room!"
@Bryan Mack Prowse was told that he would have to speak over the footage later because the mask, that is why he did not put any effort into his speaking during the shooting. At least that is what he said himself in an interview.
He also has a very small part in Barry Lyndon. He and Joe Turkel (Lloyd the bartender in the Shining) are the only two actors to appear in three different Kubrick movies.
The clips to hold the eye lids open are a real thing, and I've had it done to me during an experiment. Freshman year at college we had to sign up for 10 hours of psych experiments for a class. One of the sessions involved this instrument and nobody had signed up yet, so I went for it. Just like in the movie the had the clips on the eye lids but they were not that uncomfortable; I'd compare it to wearing contacts. Like in the movie they also gave us eye drops and they'd do so any time we requested it; it did make my eyes really really dry. The reason they kept our eyes open was so they could track where we looked when they showed different images. Uninterestingly the pictures were of mundane things like dorm rooms, pictures of nature; it was pretty disappointing in a way. The good news was since nobody wanted to do this experiment (and they believed it was partly because of this movie, that and it's pretty uncomfortable) the 3 hour session covered all 10 hours of volunteering for experiments I was required to do. And it also made for a kind of strange story.
For those who can’t stand things near eyes, the device holding open Malcolm McDowell’s eyes had actually cut his eye during that scene and he had almost lost his vision in that eye.
@@MrUndersolo Back in 2OO1: A Space Odyssey, the dude on the video comm that tells the astronauts about how the HAL9000 on the ship made a mistake while an identical HAL9000 on Earth calculates that the AE39 (?) Unit would NOT fail, is an actual airport coordination radio guy. 😎
@@rocketdave719 He's also in "Barry Lyndon", one of the few actors who are in multiple Kubrick movies. Joe Turkel, who played Lloyd the bartender is one of the three soliders in "Paths Of Glory". Patrick Magee, the crippled writer from "Clockwork" also has a major part in "Barry Lyndon", but no one recognizes him under all the makeup!
Oh man, your smiles dropped quick when this movie started. I knew before it even started I wanted to warn you. Good on you for sticking with it. It's a hard movie to get through but it's excellent.
@@nEthing4Her Oh come on, give her some credit, she's no lightweight! She took it like a champ! :D They both did, they had the same exact reactions.....just like we all did when we first saw it. I've never seen either of them buzzing so much after a movie, with so much to say. They were already admiring Kubrick before this, but with this one, it sealed the deal. GREAT reaction video!
"I can no longer sit back and allow...communist infiltration...communist indoctrination...communist subversion...and the international communist conspiracy...to sap and impurify...all of our precious bodily fluids."
3:45 Believe it or not, this is the purest 'good' emotion we see from Alex, ever: he's captivated by her voice and performance, untainted by any carnal desire. He loves her for what she can evoke within him.
This film has a busload of quotes that has stood the test of time. Appy Polly Logies...Droogs, Horror Show and, of course, the ol' in/out. Come hear all proper!
I turn 49 in a couple days. My parents went to this the night before I was born. My mom was sick during and my dad thought she was just complaining because she didn't like the film (she didn't) but it turns out she also was in labor.
That is a fantastic story! I also have a me-as-a-fetus story regarding "2001: A Space Odyssey", but it's a little long and too personal to post in a public forum, but I feel kindred with you brother!!!! You and I have Kubrick in our DNA!!!!!!!!!
FYI: Talk about Method Acting. During production, Malcom McDowell had to get his eyes anesthetized before clamps were inserted to keep his eyelids open. The doctor featured in the scene applying solution to his eyes is a real doctor. Eye drops had to be applied every 15 seconds or there was a risk that McDowell could have gone blind.
Just my two cents, but there are lots of take aways one can have from this movie. Mine is this: We are given Alex and shown how terrible he is. To the point where we say to ourselves, nothing it too awful for him to suffer. He earned it. Then slowly, we start to have sympathy for him as the authorities experiment on him. We generally regret what happens to him, especially since he is "cured." My take away is that there are different types of evil, and some (an evil government) are worse than others.
the Idea is it was the society that created him in the first place, he isnt uniquely evil, there are lots like him. the people who live in those nice houses with all the art are the very people who hired his droogs to be police. he's been disposable since the day he was born.
Probably a damning testament about me but I didn't change my opinion and would be quite happy for instigators of violence to be treated like this. However on a more karmic level I appreciate the existential idea that there is no good without bad so evil is just something we have to live with. This idea seems reasonable - until you're the victim. I'm guessing the questions the story poses and gives no answers to are ones that mankind will have to deal with forever.
My Dad took my Mom on a date to a double feature drive in. A Clockwork Orange, and Straw Dogs. To this day almost 50 years later, she's still angry about it haha
Oh my god!!!! That is wild!!!!!! I can't even imagine that!!! HA!!!!! I saw it as a double feature with All That Jazz. First All That Jazz.....then a short one minute station break.....and "A CLockwork Orange" came on. I had barely processed the mindf**k of the end of "All That Jazz" when the opening music of "A Clockwork Orange" came on. I did not get off that couch for the entire five hours, I was completely paralyzed at the end of "A Clockwork Orange" That is a WILD double feature....and at a Drive-In!!!!!!!
For a while Mick Jagger wanted to play Alex. "At one point, Jagger owned the film rights to A Clockwork Orange, having bought them for $500 from a hard-up Burgess, before selling them to film producer Si Litvinoff."
Could you describe your memories of that? I'd love to hear it! What was the audience made up of? Was it mostly young? Was it a mix of people? Did everyone know who Kubrick was, and that he had done 2001? What were the reactions? What was the post movie buzz? I'll take any scrap of detail you can remember, down to where you were sitting, who you were with, or what snack you had bought at the concession stand!
I saw it at a cinema in the early 90s for the first time. There was a small movie theatre that screened A Clockwork Orange every once in a while and it was close to where I lived. I managed to see it twice there.
@@TTM9691 I would have seen it in Ann Arbor, Michigan, so it would have been a knowledgeable crowd, since we had 6 or 8 film societies on the campus of the University of Michigan that regularly showed films in campus auditoriums (even the Engineering Dept. had a professor who taught film classes). I would have been sitting in my regular seating area, centered to the screen and about midway back or a little closer. I never bought anything at the concession stand (poor student and too many films a week). Kubrick would have had a following due to Strangelove, which would have been shown somewhere on campus each year, however, Clockwork Orange would have cemented his reputation, coming after the very commercial and successful 2001. Personally, I didn't really take notice of Kubrick until Clockwork and saw his range with Barry Lyndon. My brother is a Kubrick guy, but I was actually somewhat unimpressed with The Shining. I was more interested in the films of Francois Truffaut and the French New Wave, Frederico Fellini and Italian Neorealists, silent films, and anything Japanese, especially the films of Kurosawa and Ozu.
If you read the book, there's a significant, if small amount that's omitted from the film. One of the most disturbing to me was the fact that our main character, Alex, was 15 years old...and the 'ladies' he brought home to party were around 10.
@@vicentegeonix Well, one of the thing omitted was a final-chapter redemption arc, which showed Alex growing up, and finding value in building & growth, rather than wonton destruction. The author was quite upset it wasn't addressed in the film.
This was Anthony Burgess' dystopian view of the future. He also wrote a rebuttal to George Orwell's 1984 called 1985. I believe he regretted writing the book after the film came out. Kubrick's film was banned in many places. Alex was meant to be the embodiment of a sick society but a lot of people viewed the film as glorifying violence and there was some copycat crime as a result of the film. Kubrick himself killed the distribution of the film in Britain when he learned of the copycat violence.
Fascinating theme. Free will really is what makes us human: we could use it for good or evil, but if that choice is taken away, can we really be human anymore?
When you think about it, this is _Black Mirror: The Movie._ The style is extremely 60s influenced. Kubrick and his team basically extrapolated the Mod culture of the late 60s into the future and this is what they figured it would look like. it was 1971 and that was still very 60s-ish.
The book predates the late sities as it was completed in the early sixties. Mr. Burgess's wife was set on upon by a huodlum gang of American soldiers. That became part of the seed than gefminated in to the story of changing social values and the rise of hoodlum yob culture. So sorry. It was not (just my opinion based on what I read) based on the late sixties Mods. Even though the Mods were already about in the early sixties.
You guys already breezed through the "toughest" of Kubrick's films. There's no need to space out the others because the rest is more or less easy street; "The Killing", "Paths of Glory', "Spartacus", "Lolita" and "Dr. Strangelove" are not harsh or tough watches... but they're all amazing movies and worth reacting to.
I disagree. the more that you know about the time periods in history that kubrick covers, the more hard hitting they are. In a lot of ways ACO is one of the more straightforward films. To me the film of kubrick's that pulls the biggest punch is Dr Strangelove - because everything in that film is pretty much a documentary about what was happening at the time. And yes, that means for over 40 years we were a hair's breath from apocalypse.
The amount of symbolism and themes in that movie are insane...I think they can be resumed by management of impulses and urges. Extreme freedom and supression of violence, sex...everything...Finding the middle ground...
Guys, if you're going to mute everything, which I understand, please turn on the subtitles. It's been years since I've seen this and it's hard to follow the plot.
some of us have seen the films so many times we dont actually need to see the film anymore, we have it in our heads (that sounds weird for some films like this), but its a great correction fantastic idea for the subtitles so we know where you are in the story..and we can if we have a copy ourselves we can sync it up and follow along.
Malcolm McDowell is an incredible actor, please check out Blue Thunder or especially Time After Time which is an awesome movie in which he plays H.G. Wells chasing Jack the Ripper.
I think Malcolm's best ones apart from Clockwork are definetely If.... (1968) and O Lucky Man! (1973), both directed by the brilliant Lindsay Anderson.
Remember seeing it when i was 16 and being disturbed while watching it and realizing I was disturbed because it was shot and acted like a broad comedy. Many years later saw it in theatres with a large audience..definitely a black comedy.
Read the book in one sitting; saw the movie on my twentieth birthday. This was a brave choice, my dears! Oh, one thing: the father in this film is Mr. Grady in 'The Shining'!
Have once seen a Clockwork Orange in one of my film classes. Mostly to understand the term "Anti-Hero". And Alex DeLarge is the perfect embodiment of anti-hero.
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Nope, not an anti-hero. He's just the protagonist. Nothing, not a shred, of heroism here.
@@arkham_miami but they didn't intend to safe her, they just wanted to fight against enemy gang. She got lucky. Alex and his droogs would do the same thing to her as the other gang
I deeply appreciate how openly and intelligently you both have approached every Kubrick film you have watched...and this is a tuff one. But you made it through and I look very forward to your next. Great job guys!!!!
There is also an episode where Lisa does an experiment on Bart with electrified cupcakes. It's framed just like when Alex tried the grab the . . . . cupcakes, of the woman on stage.
My sister in law had thought that Bart had looked like Madonna in that get up. I had to explain to her that Bart was supposed to be "Alex De Large" from "A Clockwork Orange."
The Schmitt's always do a great job of analyzing these films. This used to be my favorite Kubrick film, but as I get older I like "Barry Lyndon" and "The Shining" a little better. Still brilliant, though.
Me too! I was all sorta fascinATED BY THIS FLICK IN THE EARLY 70S AND SAW IT A FEW TIMES in the theatre.....with time it has faded for me but the other Kubrick movies have grown more on me.
I can't imagine watching "A clockwork orange" without first reading the book(which is much worse). Also, the Nadsat language ( a mixture of Russian, Yiddish and cockney Rhyming slang) made up by Anthony Burgess would be very difficult to follow without the glossary. The funny thing is much of the language is now used in English slang. You picked up very quickly on the dystopian society. I know it's crazy. imagine watching it in 1971 when it came out in England the first time. I was 15. The movie will grow on you. Good job
I am shocked you guys reviewed this HORRIFYING MASTERPIECE!!! It's jarring at first watch, but it's such a masterful conceptual film. Kudos to you two....
Thanks for taking on this classic! Malcolm McDowell is such a great actor my favorite role for him was “Time After Time “ an excellent film about the time machine and Jack the Ripper thanks guys!
That's a movie Malcom McDowell is very proud of. When you see interviews with him, he often brings that up. I haven't seen it in years and years! But I saw it a million times on cable back in the early 80s.
@@justindenney-hall5875 I disagree. the disturbing thing about a clockwork orange is not the depravity, its because you are encouraged to view the depravity from the point of view of the psychopath that is performing the depraved acts and to see it from his point of view. That is the whole point of the music. It is alex's movie, alex is the main character in his own film where he shares his perspective and shares his warped worldview and encourages us to go along for the ride. so when I watch something like antichrist or the human centipede all they do is turn my stomach. They don't really affect me the same way with the same moral repugnance.
@@justindenney-hall5875 yeah and like I said, I yawn when I see something like 'a serbian film' or 'the human centipede'. well maybe I don't yawn but they don't really effect me on an emotional level. why? because it is just so base and obvious. it says that humans can be twisted fucks, but I feel so detached from the perversity on-screen that it really doesn't register. Its been tried many times afterwards but not many films invite you successfully in to the joys of being a gleeful psychopath and see the world from their point of view. That, and of course the bleakness of the ending. There is no 'good answer' when it comes to alex. He may be 'cured', but he's going to go back to torturing other people whilst getting subsidized by the state because it is politically expedient. Yet even if he hadn't had the 'treatment', he would have gone through prison and learned to be an even more successful psychopath. And I suppose you could have killed alex and his like, but that way lies a tyrannical regime. so no, I think people who look at modern torture film as being 'disturbing' have a limited grasp of what is disturbing. When something is extreme for the sake of being extreme, it just becomes tedious and boring.
@@justindenney-hall5875 um. no, i'm not trying to sound like i'm cool. I really mean yawn. take the 'sinful dwarf'. in real life, how many sadistic dwarves are out there turning women into prostitutes? Or the human centipede. How many deranged doctors are out there sewing people together? All these are are unrealistic fantasies - all made simply for shock value with unbelievable premises and manufactured outrage. So when I see these films the unreality of the film undermines any shocking things I see on film. Whereas there are plenty of Alexes out there. And the premise is plausible - in fact multiple would-be droogs basically committed copycat crimes after the film was released. So films like this which have horror reflected in reality always pack more of a punch for me. And ACO is one of the only films like I said which forces you to take the POV of the protagonist monster so it holds a special position.
Alex is criminally insane. The first part of the movie is showing you how his mind works, which is very different from the "norm". He views life through a distorted prism. The treatment is rendering him incapable of acting on his dysfunctional "wiring". To me, the most terrifying moment is when Alex realizes that he's going to lose his love for Beethoven as part of his "cure". They took the one thing in his life that was good and pure, and destroyed it.
Good idea! It is Stanley's Christmas movie! And that gives them plenty of time to do all the other movies.....which I like better! lol ACTUALLY....its best right AFTER Xmas...when the lights are still up, but the cynicism has set in!!!!! :P
This one is definitely a weird take for the first time watching. It takes a few times to watch and more of the story to realize how great of a master piece this movie is.
I thought they did great, I've never seen them so energized and dazzled, I think they totally got it and their comments about Kubrick at the end obviously show that this one "sealed the deal", and the realization that each movie of his was completely different, and a total experience was palpable. They TOTALLY realized what a great masterpiece this movie is, and I think they realized that pretty early in the video! Like..right away! How is this a "weird take" for the first time watching it?
This is one of my all time favorites, as is the book. Beyond all the stylized violence it is an examination of the idea of ' institutionalized violence' (the prison system) and the role of the state versus the individual as far as violence and the possibility of redemption is concerned. The final chapter of the book pretty much ties Burgess' notions together on the subject, but Kubrick opted not to use that part in the film as he thought American audiences wouldn't appreciate it, or would look at it as a cop-out ending. This film is beautiful for so many reasons.
@@toooydoeur What can I say? As with most Kubrick, the more often I watch it, the funnier it gets. At this point, 2001 is a laugh riot (Zero Gravity Toilet instructions? A bushbaby? "Without your space helmet, Dave, you're going to find that rather difficult"? Space helmet? Is that what they call it? "Rather" difficult? it damn near kills him). Your milage may vary, but the black humor is there if you look for it and more so in A Clockwork Orange than in 2001.
I couldn't believe this move was in your queue. You two didn't disappoint, your faces throughout the movie were amazing. Horror, disgust, incomprehension... As always, I enjoy the wrap up discussion. Do you think you will ever re-watch this movie?
The bodybuilder is played David Prowse who played Darth Vader and the man who played Alex's father played Grady the waiter/caretaker, who killed his family with an axe, in "The Shining."
Malcom McDowel almost lost his eyes and got serious damage to his cornea from the famous scene...the guys was not putting fast enough some liquid for his eyes. You would not be able to do something like that now !
@24:57 your expressions and comment kinda sums it all up really XD A couple of comments about the is film: During Alex's Ludovico Technique/Brain washing procedure Malcolm McDowell actually had one of his corena's sliced during filming. The actor who plays Alex's father is Philip Stone who also starred in Kubrick's The Shining playing the Butler Delbert Grady, he also plays a character in another Kubrick film Barry Lyndon which is my favorite Kubrick film. Also the actor who played the body builder is actually David Prowse who played Darth Vader in Star Wars.
I was 15 in 1971 and I do remember when 'A Clockwork Orange' was released that year. I really wanted to see it back then, but it was Rated X, no one under 18 was admitted to go see it. It was two years (17) later when I saw it, and it is still one of my all time favorite films to this very day. And because of 'A Clockwork Orange' that is the film that I showed an appreciation for Classical Music. 'A Clockwork Orange' is a novel written by English writer Anthony Burgess and was published in 1962. The main character Alex is the narrator in the novel and he is 15 years old, and also the two girls that he meets and picks up at the record shop are only around 10, 11 years old. And yes, Alex did get his groove on them in the novel, which I have read many times.
Anthony Burgess's title is inspired by the Cockney expression "queer as a clockwork orange" ("queer" meaning "strange" or "unusual"). Both the novel and the film imply that wild oranges, like Alex himself, are living things that should be allowed to grow in natural and unpredictable ways. By contrast, the Ludovico technique involves an attempt to reduce the natural complexity of a living, organic "orange" into a mindless and mechanized "clockwork" object.
Now you need to watch what many consider to be Kubric's masterpiece, "Doctor Strangelove, or How I Learned to Love the Bomb" (yes, that's the full title). A Kubrick movie can be a life changing experience. I know I felt like I'd never really see the world the same way after a few of them.
I have trouble finding reactions to Dr. Strangelove, even thought it's one of the greatest movies ever made. I really hope they continue their Kubrick series until they get to it...
Thanks for the reaction guys, this is a very tough one but once again you really got it, it always amazes me. I did mention how hard it was going to be to get a RUclips ready edit for this, but I didn't want to say too much and spoil anything. There is a lot that can be said about this movie in terms of historical significance and the context and purpose of it, but one thing you definitely say after watching the Kubrick films you have---He DOESN'T mess around. You guys have really dived in the deep end and watched all the toughest Kubrick films first--everything after this is pretty smooth sailing and I would highly recommend Dr. Strangelove next--I think you could have a lot of fun with that one.
@@samantha_schmitt I agree with so many others. (I'm close to patronizing you.) Barry Lyndon will make you see another aspect of the Great Man, Kubrick, at his most humane and beautiful--although still with humanity's warts and all.
If you're doing Kubrick, I hope you go on to watch Barry Lyndon as well. It seems to be underappreciated compared to some of his other films, but I love it. It is also one of the most beautiful films I've seen.
The opening shot of Malcolm McDowell, he raised his glass and "toasted" the camera. This was an ad-lib and when asked by Kubrick why he did it replied "I wanted to let them know what a wild ride they are in for." Kubrick loved this and so it stayed. Also the language/slang used in the film is called nadsat and is based on Russian dialect. The book often comes with a glossary of meanings which helps but after a while you just get it and can understand it.
Thank you, not just for sharing that bit of trivia (which is on Malcom McDowell's audio commentary track, which is great!), but for NOT being one of seemingly hundreds who keep writing about the bodybuilder being Darth Vader, or how McDowell's cornea got scratched! Don't these people scroll down a bit before they comment? LOL!
"Dr. Strangelove" and "Paths Of Glory" are the next two undisputed masterpieces that I don't think anyone would argue with. The other remaining ones have their detractors, or their weaknesses, but "Dr. Strangelove" and "Paths of Glory" I've never heard a bad word about. One is very funny, one is very sad. After those, you'll say "Full Metal who?" :P
From a book which is social commentary, made into the weird art style of the times. I think we are supposed to feel confused and repulsed, yet we still watch. The horrible Manson Murders happened in 1969; lots of social turmoil going on then.
A few notes on this film... The old man's bodybuilding protector was played by David Prowse, aka Darth flippin Vader Malcolm McDowell got a legit scratched cornea while filming the lidlock scenes The scene where Alex's postcorrective advisor spits on him after informing Alex he was a murderer took 70 takes to film because Kubrick wanted the loogie to look exactly perfect on Malcolm McDowell's face "Singing In The Rain" was an ad-lib on McDowell's part. He happened to meet Gene Kelly at an awards show a few years later. Kelly refused to speak to him.
Alex is irredeemable and quite evil, an absolute horrible person. However, what is done to him isn't actual change for the better, he is still who he is throughout the film. Taking away free choice and forcing change through torture or coercion is what the book is about. Kubrick is actually doing a bit more with the film than what is in the book, but the overall message is still there. We actually see things like this today in social media, people canceling others and calling for people to be fired, and even calling for and committing violence, to force change on people they disagree with. It's a hard film to watch, but the overall message is worth seeing. Not to mention the cinematography and overall film is well done.
Oh yeah, I totally forgot! Malcolm McDowell was actually terrified of snakes, but Kubrick actually added more time with the snake in the film, trolling McDowell. When Alex runs into his former gang members as Police, their numbers are 665 and 667, so when they're with Alex standing between them, Alex would be 666.
This movie was so controversial, it was banned in the UK for it's strong graphic sex scenes and brutal violence. It was nominated for Best Picture, but lost to The French Connection.
It was banned in a couple of cities in the UK when it premiered and also in a couple of countries (South Africa, Brazil and Argentina). The censorship in the UK was not done by the British board of film censorship but instead by local politicians. Later on in 1973 Kubrick himself decided to take the film out of circulation in Britain and it was not shown in Britain up until his death in 1999. It was then released in cinemas in Britain in 2000. It was available everywhere else since its release like any other movie.
I think because it was so controversial when it came out, I wanted to see it even more. When I finally got to see it, I thought, “this isn’t that bad” - because it was so surreal and the scenes framed so exquisitely. Of course, it perverted “singing in the rain” for so many!
I'm sure many people will bring up Eyes Wide Shut, Barry Lyndon, Lolita, etc., but I really hope you check out Paths of Glory. You cover quite a few war movies on the channel, which is probably my least-favorite genre, but Paths of Glory is one of my favorites among those I have seen, and doesn't get the same level of coverage as Kubrick's more big-budget mainstream films.
If you want to see Malcolm McDowell in a much more positive role, I would suggest you check out “Time After Time” in which he plays a time-traveling H.G. Wells. He’s wonderful in it.
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@@TBRSchmitt hi from Lyon - France ^^ a clockwork Orange ( Orange mécanique for the french title ) Is one of these movies than you love it or you hate it .......Me , i love it ;) Acting is just awesome and the universe is so mad .
I have 2 movies for you , a little in this kind of movies : 1/ Trainspoting (english humor so , of course hilarious ) , 2/ Requiem for a dream ( The most sad , disturbing , hard , and a little funny than i have saw )
A MUST SEE
just an fyi but this movie has a very short half-life on reactions staying up... I'm hoping that you have better luck.
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This film was rated X when it was first released.
The body builder is David Prowse. 5 years later , he played Darth Vader in the Star Wars films.
7 years later actually
It's still a very disturbing and edgy film, so just imagine how it made audiences feel 50 years ago!
James Earl Jones was two films earlier!
The Shining was filmed in the same studio the Empire Strikes Back was made at which probably had Prowse in it. Back to back in fact. George Lucas had to wait because The Shining took longer to make then was scheduled for.
Well its Rated R now cuz Kubrick replaced 30 secs for 2sexually explicit scenes
This film was banned in many countries for ages due to its “glorification of violence”. I think they missed the point.
The real problem was with teenagers trying to reenact some of the scenes where they attack people on the street. More so in the UK than in the US.
The problem with Kubrick's version of the story is that it is based on the AMERICAN version of Anthony Burgess' story, which (for reasons that Burgess explains in the foreword of an anniversary edition of the story) LEAVES OFF the final chapter of the story.
In the FULL version, the final chapter is where Alex REFORMS from the criminal life of his adolescence. Without that character development, it DOES appear that violence is being "glorified" in Kubrick's film.
@@atlasisshrugging Yeah ... I actually thought the final chapter was really kind of a cop-out. I didn't buy it at all. It felt like a tacked-on ending to redeem the otherwise totally despicable anit-hero, and yet nothing really happened to reform him other than he got a little older. Kubrick's version, IMO, emphasizes the dark sarcastic comedy and social commentary. It's not glorifying the violence, it's showing how corrupt society is totally agnostic toward violence. Alex's evil nature is at first exploited to push an equally ugly method of forcing anti-society elements to conform to the system. When that backfires, the powers that be accept Alex into its fold. Is the real evil here Alex and his Droogs, or is it a system/culture that is this amoral? Reforming Alex in the end, again, IMO, makes the story become more about Alex's character evolution when it's so much more poignant when Alex's story is not really the central point, but simply using his story to point a satirical, darkly funny accusing finger at society, government, what have you.
@Necramonium Just because back then were way worse doesnt mean its ok to now do it again.
@Necramonium The issue with cancel culture isn't limiting publishable works, it is that it aims to to end people's careers based on just accusations. "Necra said apples taste bad, make sure they never get any job ever again!"
People have lost their job for publicly stating their support for the wrong party---in the US this year, for Christ's sake!
Malcolm McDowell should have gotten nominated for an Oscar for this film.
And Tank Girl.
@@jordanaiken7138 😅
Burt Lancaster says exactly that in this clip. He also thought it was the best movie of '71: ruclips.net/video/1Oz4SysPbpw/видео.html Just in case you needed another reason to love Burt Lancaster, what a guy, and what an actor. This is from 1972, this interview.
He should have won an Oscar for this. It's not even questionable but it was to controversial back then
@@antonhallergren588 Here's Burt Lancaster in 1972 saying exactly the same thing: ruclips.net/video/1Oz4SysPbpw/видео.html
"A Clockworld Orange"- refers to a person who “has the appearance of an organism lovely with colour and juice but is in fact only a clockwork toy to be wound up by God or the Devil or (since this is increasingly replacing both) the Almighty State. Agreed Kubrik film is something to experience.
I thought it came from the outdated phrase "Queer as a clockwork orange", so I've learnt something new today.
It's cockney, but this particular use is referring to an extreme psychopath.
Yes, rather obscure in current day USA.
@Zombie I thought it was more taking something organic and trying to force it into a mechanistic system. Like hammering a square peg into a round hole: it's gonna go horribly, horribly wrong.
A Clockwork Orange is Cockney Rhyming Slang for STRANGE = STROINGE
Burgess lived in SE Asia for a while. Sri Lanka, maybe? Anyway, when he sent the manuscript to his editor it was called "A clockwork Orang" as in the Bahasa word meaning "person," (you know, like in "Orang Utan"person of the forest).It makes sense as the government wants to turn Alex into a machine. The editor's ignorance of what the author meant gave us the even crazier "A clockwork orange" which Burgess loved and stuck with.
George and Dim's police numbers are 665 and 667 with Alex between them.
Nice catch!
Something New... Didn't hear about that Easter egg before. 😂
Alex isn't a policeman so he doesn't have a number. But how about the third policeman driving the car. Who... Was driving... The characters.
I missed that
Alex his prisoner Number is 655321. When you replace the numbers with letters you get FEECBA. When you speak that out it says f...able in german.
Technically, this is "sci fi"..as it's set "in the future".. that's why they listen to music on little cassettes and drive a "Durango 98". But it's not a big aspect of the plot
Yeah, it’s set in the future but very much about the concerns of rising violence, especially youth violence, in both the US & UK that was occurring at the time. I mean this was right after riots, Charlie Manson, Richard Speck, and a spike in murders.
The sci-fi element comes from the fact that they're literally doing science experiments on him, not that it's set in the future. Just because something takes place in the future doesn't necessarily make it sci-fi but it's definitely futuristic, dystopian and has elements of science fiction in the plot.
As the old "drunkie" said just before Alex and his Droogs beat on him: "man was living on the moon." So yeah, technically sci-fi.
It's partly a political scifi, like 1984
Science fiction isn't just about the hard sciences, but also social sciences. For instance, Dune is very much an examination of politics and the various styles of leadership and their pitfalls. Another example would be Fahrenheit 451. ( No spaceships, Ray guns and monsters.)
That’s the rub, isn’t it? Alex is a monster, but he is still a human. The ludovicho technique stole his ability to be fully human. He was evil, but his evil was a choice. The project robbed him of the ability to choose evil, but also to choose good. He was stripped of his free will, his own agency over his life. They even took music that was meant for beauty and turned into something disgusting and vile. What was done to Alex was worse than his own crimes. What they did was a perversion of nature. To take something beautiful and make it ugly, to take something free and make it enslaved, to take something natural and make it unnatural.
Like a clockwork orange. 🍊🤖
👆👆👆👆 This guy gets it 👆👆👆👆
That's largely what I got of it too. Plus they not only took away his ability to commit sexual assault and violence, which is arguably a good thing, but also the ability to defend himself against anything. I remember marveling at how Kubrick took such an awful villain and ended up with us feeling bad and then even rooting for him to a degree. Masterful work.
@@BrianKoppe Ditto. Exactly a main point (among many others, as in all Kubrick films).
They also did it for ultimately self serving reasons not to ensure public safety. We see that the authorities around Alex are with a few exceptions twisted in their own way. This is show particularly when his violent friends are now police officers and at the end when the government has no problem using Alex, a rapist and murderer to increase their popularity
"You felt ill this afternoon because youre getting better." A slyly hilarous line.
Reminds of a more subtle variation on "you can't fight in here, this is the war room!"
21:19 Rest in peace, David Prowse: the man who played Darth Vader!
I got to stand right next to Dave at a convention once and felt dwarfed! You could tell his suit and shoes were probably custom made to fit his size.
@Bryan Mack Prowse was told that he would have to speak over the footage later because the mask, that is why he did not put any effort into his speaking during the shooting. At least that is what he said himself in an interview.
And the "Green Cross Code" man.
@@Chris_34 Yeah, I saw some of those. They were great.
@@LeviAckerman-cb5ji LOL! I Rember them from growing up in the 1980's, and they must've worked as I haven't been run over yet. Touch wood😐.
And the bodybuilder is David Prowse, the actor who played Darth Vader.
I believe David Prowse just recently passed away ... RIP
@@dancolon47 Yes, he did last year, apparently.
I thought he played Chewie.
@@dunkyvslife7447 No, that was Peter Mayhew, who also passed away not that long ago, in 2019.
Philip Stone, the actor playing Alex’s father, was a Kubrick regular. He played the men’s room attendant in The Shining.
Yep Mr Grady.
Did you forget how Delbert Grady came upon meeting Jack Torrance? What kind of men's room attendant goes around serving people drinks?
@@mikethemotormouth
A dead 'Care Taker' kind attends the men's room and serves behind the bar. When he isn't busy chopping his family up doing redrum.
He also has a very small part in Barry Lyndon. He and Joe Turkel (Lloyd the bartender in the Shining) are the only two actors to appear in three different Kubrick movies.
@@mikethemotormouth He should have told Alex he needs correcting… in the harshest manner possible.
Fun fact: the guy who played Julian (body builder) is David Prowse. He portrayed Darth Vader in the Star Wars films ;)
RIP ....
Dude watching the undubbed scenes of Vader are hilarious. Star Wars would e FLOPPED If they left the audio of David in instead of JEJ.
@@FilthTribeFTP Even as ....THE GREEN CROSS CODE MAN .....ended up dubbed !
Go Google if over the pond
@@FilthTribeFTP 😂
@@FilthTribeFTP it would never flopped
McDowell’s cornea actually got scratched in the filming. Went thru a lot during the filming.
It's kind of ironic. The actor suffers abuse at the hands of a filmmaker to portray how the government abused his character.
The clips to hold the eye lids open are a real thing, and I've had it done to me during an experiment. Freshman year at college we had to sign up for 10 hours of psych experiments for a class. One of the sessions involved this instrument and nobody had signed up yet, so I went for it. Just like in the movie the had the clips on the eye lids but they were not that uncomfortable; I'd compare it to wearing contacts. Like in the movie they also gave us eye drops and they'd do so any time we requested it; it did make my eyes really really dry. The reason they kept our eyes open was so they could track where we looked when they showed different images. Uninterestingly the pictures were of mundane things like dorm rooms, pictures of nature; it was pretty disappointing in a way. The good news was since nobody wanted to do this experiment (and they believed it was partly because of this movie, that and it's pretty uncomfortable) the 3 hour session covered all 10 hours of volunteering for experiments I was required to do. And it also made for a kind of strange story.
@@danielallen3454 Ever seen Caligula? 😲
For those who can’t stand things near eyes, the device holding open Malcolm McDowell’s eyes had actually cut his eye during that scene and he had almost lost his vision in that eye.
As someone who can't stand things near eyes: Thanks, thanks for that piece of trivia.
And the one with the dropper was a an actual eye doctor they hired for the shoot!
@@MrUndersolo Back in 2OO1: A Space Odyssey, the dude on the video comm that tells the astronauts about how the HAL9000 on the ship made a mistake while an identical HAL9000 on Earth calculates that the AE39 (?) Unit would NOT fail, is an actual airport coordination radio guy. 😎
@@davidw.2791 Wow
Yeah the *counselor * is a perv.
The guy who plays his dad was Grady in The Shining.
Damn it... why are you spilling the beans?
But he did not correct them
Wow, somehow I never realized that, though I've seen both movies multiple times.
Philip Stone, we speak your name.
@@rocketdave719 He's also in "Barry Lyndon", one of the few actors who are in multiple Kubrick movies. Joe Turkel, who played Lloyd the bartender is one of the three soliders in "Paths Of Glory". Patrick Magee, the crippled writer from "Clockwork" also has a major part in "Barry Lyndon", but no one recognizes him under all the makeup!
Oh man, your smiles dropped quick when this movie started. I knew before it even started I wanted to warn you. Good on you for sticking with it. It's a hard movie to get through but it's excellent.
LOL yeah like I said up there, when I saw they were doing this when I was like oh my God poor Samantha LOL
@@nEthing4Her Oh come on, give her some credit, she's no lightweight! She took it like a champ! :D They both did, they had the same exact reactions.....just like we all did when we first saw it. I've never seen either of them buzzing so much after a movie, with so much to say. They were already admiring Kubrick before this, but with this one, it sealed the deal. GREAT reaction video!
Its not hard to get through. Its a masterpiece.
I love this movie, one of my favorites.
@@greglapointe1311 I love the violence in this film. It's so pure.
Alright! One of my favorites! Crazy movie! Next: Dr Strangelove!
One of the (if not the best) satires of all time. And it came out during the height of the cold war 🤣
or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb
"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here. This is the war room!"
"I can no longer sit back and allow...communist infiltration...communist indoctrination...communist subversion...and the international communist conspiracy...to sap and impurify...all of our precious bodily fluids."
@@kalandkarazor-el3088 best one liner ever.
This movie played on cable in the early 80's when I was a kid, and just annihilated my little 12 year old brain. Haha
I remember being clever and hiding under a table to watch this. Really shouldn't have.
Were they busy putting the eye drops in whilst you were watching it? :0)
@@lmagoddess Yeah, you should have watched it in a seat.
Omg. No one is ever reacting to this !
I'm so excited!!!
There are a few movies that no one reacts to that I wish they would
Yeah man, me too
My favorite line in this movie is "TRRYYY THE WIIIINNEEEE!"
Mr Alexander: Try the wine!
Alex: like I tried your wife?😈
3:45 Believe it or not, this is the purest 'good' emotion we see from Alex, ever: he's captivated by her voice and performance, untainted by any carnal desire. He loves her for what she can evoke within him.
21:02, the body builder played the Dark Lord Of The Sith, Darth Vader. His name was David Prowse. He passed away last year at the age of 85.
I remember them saying VADER was played by a Bodybuilder.
So thats him...
When I saw this pop up on my feed I went “oh no” cause I knew you’d be needing to decompress after this one that’s for sure
That's why they're doing "The Princess Bride" on Saturday!! :D
The body builder played Darth Vader (minus the voice) in Star Wars.
great catch!
The late David Prowse
And James Earl Jones (the voice of Darth Vader) was part of the B52 crew in Dr Strangelove.
"No time for the ol' in 'n out love, I've just come to read the meter."
Hahahaha! I love that line😂😂😂
Great line, another great line is "Try the wiiiiiiiine", try blurting that out at a dinner table.
This film has a busload of quotes that has stood the test of time. Appy Polly Logies...Droogs, Horror Show and, of course, the ol' in/out. Come hear all proper!
@@CrayCruz welly welly welly welly welly well.
"that is if you have any yarbles".
I turn 49 in a couple days. My parents went to this the night before I was born. My mom was sick during and my dad thought she was just complaining because she didn't like the film (she didn't) but it turns out she also was in labor.
Please tell me your name is Alex or at least Stanley! What a story!
@@deiwi ha ha no. And I was a full month early too so it may have been a factor.
That is a fantastic story! I also have a me-as-a-fetus story regarding "2001: A Space Odyssey", but it's a little long and too personal to post in a public forum, but I feel kindred with you brother!!!! You and I have Kubrick in our DNA!!!!!!!!!
"I'm completely reformed"....smirk.
FYI: Talk about Method Acting. During production, Malcom McDowell had to get his eyes anesthetized before clamps were inserted to keep his eyelids open.
The doctor featured in the scene applying solution to his eyes is a real doctor. Eye drops had to be applied every 15 seconds or there was a risk that McDowell could have gone blind.
His eyes were still hurt nad damaged
@@zepter00 nad damage lol
@@WiredLain_ sounds about right for a higger amirite
17:37 I love the way he says "there's a strange fella sitting on the sofa" 😂
Munchy wunching on ticks of toast.
@@indridcold3762 I might be wrong, but as I remember it the phrase is "Munchy wunching lumticks of toast". 'lumtick' is Russian for slice.
@@happinesstan aaaahhhhhhh gotcha.
Just my two cents, but there are lots of take aways one can have from this movie. Mine is this: We are given Alex and shown how terrible he is. To the point where we say to ourselves, nothing it too awful for him to suffer. He earned it. Then slowly, we start to have sympathy for him as the authorities experiment on him. We generally regret what happens to him, especially since he is "cured." My take away is that there are different types of evil, and some (an evil government) are worse than others.
the Idea is it was the society that created him in the first place, he isnt uniquely evil, there are lots like him. the people who live in those nice houses with all the art are the very people who hired his droogs to be police.
he's been disposable since the day he was born.
@@Bangpath247 and that georgie and dim are now part of the establishment and can do all the violence they want with permission
Probably a damning testament about me but I didn't change my opinion and would be quite happy for instigators of violence to be treated like this. However on a more karmic level I appreciate the existential idea that there is no good without bad so evil is just something we have to live with. This idea seems reasonable - until you're the victim. I'm guessing the questions the story poses and gives no answers to are ones that mankind will have to deal with forever.
Is Alex evil, or is he just a very successful individual of the times?
@@steeleye2112 But are the administrators of the treatment not instigators of violence? And is Alex not now a victim?
My Dad took my Mom on a date to a double feature drive in. A Clockwork Orange, and Straw Dogs. To this day almost 50 years later, she's still angry about it haha
Really?? Straw Dogs AND Clockwork??? Brutal! ....lol!
@@OscarRuiz-gj3mp Back then sure, but now it would be "A serbian film." and "The human centipede 2" lol.
Oh my god!!!! That is wild!!!!!! I can't even imagine that!!! HA!!!!! I saw it as a double feature with All That Jazz. First All That Jazz.....then a short one minute station break.....and "A CLockwork Orange" came on. I had barely processed the mindf**k of the end of "All That Jazz" when the opening music of "A Clockwork Orange" came on. I did not get off that couch for the entire five hours, I was completely paralyzed at the end of "A Clockwork Orange"
That is a WILD double feature....and at a Drive-In!!!!!!!
🤣🤣🤣
@@TTM9691 loved it!
Dr Strangelove is a complete 180 from a Clockwork Orange , great satire and fun film
ACWO is a great satire and fun film as well
Wendy Carlos' score was BRILLIANT as well. This is one of the Top 10 films of all time. Hands down.
Absolutely. Probably top 3 for me.
Yeah. If I remember well he remixed the classic track in Saturday Night Fever as well.
I agree the score was BRILLIANT. R.I.P. Wendy.
@@tbone2471 "R.I.P. Wendy." What? Usually you only say that about people who have died.
The sad tooty music while Alex walks through his ruined neighbourhood is the most 1971 movie scene ever ... well, other than _Shaft._
Nothing makes me giggle more than " Then I viddied in my head, thinking was for the gloopy ones..😁"
Lets go for sip at the Korova Milkbar.💖
For a while Mick Jagger wanted to play Alex. "At one point, Jagger owned the film rights to A Clockwork Orange, having bought them for $500 from a hard-up Burgess, before selling them to film producer Si Litvinoff."
Great movie. This is a movie you will be thinking about for a long time. Lol
Love it when people react to Clockwork Orange, but regret they didn’t get to see it in a theater in ‘71. The times, they’ve been changin’.
Could you describe your memories of that? I'd love to hear it! What was the audience made up of? Was it mostly young? Was it a mix of people? Did everyone know who Kubrick was, and that he had done 2001? What were the reactions? What was the post movie buzz? I'll take any scrap of detail you can remember, down to where you were sitting, who you were with, or what snack you had bought at the concession stand!
I saw it at a cinema in the early 90s for the first time. There was a small movie theatre that screened A Clockwork Orange every once in a while and it was close to where I lived. I managed to see it twice there.
@@TTM9691 I would have seen it in Ann Arbor, Michigan, so it would have been a knowledgeable crowd, since we had 6 or 8 film societies on the campus of the University of Michigan that regularly showed films in campus auditoriums (even the Engineering Dept. had a professor who taught film classes). I would have been sitting in my regular seating area, centered to the screen and about midway back or a little closer. I never bought anything at the concession stand (poor student and too many films a week). Kubrick would have had a following due to Strangelove, which would have been shown somewhere on campus each year, however, Clockwork Orange would have cemented his reputation, coming after the very commercial and successful 2001. Personally, I didn't really take notice of Kubrick until Clockwork and saw his range with Barry Lyndon. My brother is a Kubrick guy, but I was actually somewhat unimpressed with The Shining. I was more interested in the films of Francois Truffaut and the French New Wave, Frederico Fellini and Italian Neorealists, silent films, and anything Japanese, especially the films of Kurosawa and Ozu.
If you read the book, there's a significant, if small amount that's omitted from the film. One of the most disturbing to me was the fact that our main character, Alex, was 15 years old...and the 'ladies' he brought home to party were around 10.
and to think i couldn’t get any more grossed out about this movie. gah!🤮
And he drugged them and forced them to have sex. They were terrified/traumatized.
A man of culture, I see.
I didn’t know that, and now that I do I don’t want to again. Ick.
@@vicentegeonix Well, one of the thing omitted was a final-chapter redemption arc, which showed Alex growing up, and finding value in building & growth, rather than wonton destruction. The author was quite upset it wasn't addressed in the film.
Alex’s treatment is classic “Is the cure worse than the illness?”.
No it isnt.
@@bryanpartington3260Great argument. Really insightful points you used to back up your viewpoint.
EVERYONE REACTS DIFFERENTLY TO THIS ONE. A PERSONAL JOURNEY IF YOU WILL. CHILLING. FUNNY. UNCOMFORTABLE AS HELL. ENJOY
Great description
YES ALL IN CAPSLOCK I CAN'T READ IN LOWERCASE AAAAAA
This was Anthony Burgess' dystopian view of the future. He also wrote a rebuttal to George Orwell's 1984 called 1985. I believe he regretted writing the book after the film came out. Kubrick's film was banned in many places. Alex was meant to be the embodiment of a sick society but a lot of people viewed the film as glorifying violence and there was some copycat crime as a result of the film. Kubrick himself killed the distribution of the film in Britain when he learned of the copycat violence.
Fascinating theme. Free will really is what makes us human: we could use it for good or evil, but if that choice is taken away, can we really be human anymore?
When you think about it, this is _Black Mirror: The Movie._
The style is extremely 60s influenced. Kubrick and his team basically extrapolated the Mod culture of the late 60s into the future and this is what they figured it would look like. it was 1971 and that was still very 60s-ish.
The book predates the late sities as it was completed in the early sixties. Mr. Burgess's wife was set on upon by a huodlum gang of American soldiers. That became part of the seed than gefminated in to the story of changing social values and the rise of hoodlum yob culture. So sorry. It was not (just my opinion based on what I read) based on the late sixties Mods. Even though the Mods were already about in the early sixties.
@@MikeGreenwood51 Nono, I meant Kubrick, not Burgess. The design of the film still has lots of 60s-influenced iconography in it.
And the movie's depiction of the future of the UK was in…1972.
You guys already breezed through the "toughest" of Kubrick's films. There's no need to space out the others because the rest is more or less easy street; "The Killing", "Paths of Glory', "Spartacus", "Lolita" and "Dr. Strangelove" are not harsh or tough watches... but they're all amazing movies and worth reacting to.
Barry Lyndon
@@glenwoodreid5910 We don't need a reaction to Barry Lyndon.
@@rustincohle2135 why not?
Spartacus is a great movie. They should react to it.
I disagree. the more that you know about the time periods in history that kubrick covers, the more hard hitting they are. In a lot of ways ACO is one of the more straightforward films. To me the film of kubrick's that pulls the biggest punch is Dr Strangelove - because everything in that film is pretty much a documentary about what was happening at the time. And yes, that means for over 40 years we were a hair's breath from apocalypse.
The amount of symbolism and themes in that movie are insane...I think they can be resumed by management of impulses and urges. Extreme freedom and supression of violence, sex...everything...Finding the middle ground...
you guys should watch Kubrick's Barry Lyndon next
Snorefest
Guys, if you're going to mute everything, which I understand, please turn on the subtitles. It's been years since I've seen this and it's hard to follow the plot.
That is a great idea! Sorry for not thinking of that sooner... We will try to quickly add subtitles now!
@@TBRSchmitt Thanks guys. Have a great evening.
Okay I believe we were able to manually add all the missing dialogue! Thank you for your input
@@TBRSchmitt You're awesome! You went above and beyond on this one. Thank you both.
some of us have seen the films so many times we dont actually need to see the film anymore, we have it in our heads (that sounds weird for some films like this), but its a great correction fantastic idea for the subtitles so we know where you are in the story..and we can if we have a copy ourselves we can sync it up and follow along.
Malcolm McDowell is an incredible actor, please check out Blue Thunder or especially Time After Time which is an awesome movie in which he plays H.G. Wells chasing Jack the Ripper.
Blue Thunder is great, awesome Helicopter stunts.
"Catch you later!"
@@AutoPilate "We're following his leader"
I think Malcolm's best ones apart from Clockwork are definetely If.... (1968) and O Lucky Man! (1973), both directed by the brilliant Lindsay Anderson.
''IF...'' With Malcolm McDowell
Remember seeing it when i was 16 and being disturbed while watching it and realizing I was disturbed because it was shot and acted like a broad comedy. Many years later saw it in theatres with a large audience..definitely a black comedy.
Who ever told you this was an "interesting" movie, I think they meant "disturbing" 😆
😂
still interesting though ...
Interestingly disturbing!
Disturbingly interesting!
😅
Read the book in one sitting; saw the movie on my twentieth birthday.
This was a brave choice, my dears!
Oh, one thing: the father in this film is Mr. Grady in 'The Shining'!
Have once seen a Clockwork Orange in one of my film classes. Mostly to understand the term "Anti-Hero". And Alex DeLarge is the perfect embodiment of anti-hero.
Nope, not an anti-hero. He's just the protagonist. Nothing, not a shred, of heroism here.
@ they did kinda save the woman in the beginning
@@arkham_miami but they didn't intend to safe her, they just wanted to fight against enemy gang. She got lucky. Alex and his droogs would do the same thing to her as the other gang
I deeply appreciate how openly and intelligently you both have approached every Kubrick film you have watched...and this is a tuff one. But you made it through and I look very forward to your next. Great job guys!!!!
Remember when Bart dressed like Them for Halloween one year on the Simpsons hahaha classic
I was going to mention this, ha!
There is also an episode where Lisa does an experiment on Bart with electrified cupcakes. It's framed just like when Alex tried the grab the . . . . cupcakes, of the woman on stage.
My sister in law had thought that Bart had looked like Madonna in that get up. I had to explain to her that Bart was supposed to be "Alex De Large" from "A Clockwork Orange."
The Schmitt's always do a great job of analyzing these films. This used to be my favorite Kubrick film, but as I get older I like "Barry Lyndon" and "The Shining" a little better. Still brilliant, though.
+1 Barry Lyndon fan
Talk about art, every shot is art
Me too! I was all sorta fascinATED BY THIS FLICK IN THE EARLY 70S AND SAW IT A FEW TIMES in the theatre.....with time it has faded for me but the other Kubrick movies have grown more on me.
I can't imagine watching "A clockwork orange" without first reading the book(which is much worse).
Also, the Nadsat language ( a mixture of Russian, Yiddish and cockney Rhyming slang) made up by Anthony Burgess would be very difficult to follow without the glossary.
The funny thing is much of the language is now used in English slang.
You picked up very quickly on the dystopian society.
I know it's crazy. imagine watching it in 1971 when it came out in England the first time. I was 15.
The movie will grow on you.
Good job
Reading the book one needs no glossary, it is easy to pick up.
"You felt ill this afternoon because you're getting better!"
outstanding scene, I adore this film
I am shocked you guys reviewed this HORRIFYING MASTERPIECE!!! It's jarring at first watch, but it's such a masterful conceptual film. Kudos to you two....
Thanks for taking on this classic! Malcolm McDowell is such a great actor my favorite role for him was “Time After Time “ an excellent film about the time machine and Jack the Ripper thanks guys!
That's a movie Malcom McDowell is very proud of. When you see interviews with him, he often brings that up. I haven't seen it in years and years! But I saw it a million times on cable back in the early 80s.
I spent the whole movie thinking the actor looked like Malcolm McDowell but I mentally dismissed it ,😅
The body builder played Darth Vader well only in costume not voice .
I saw this movie shortly after graduating high school in 1987, and I can positively tell you that you will recover from this in a decade or so. ;)
you know, I watched this film when I was ten or eleven. I was strictly religious at the time (fundamentalist). I'm not sure if I have yet to recover.
@@justindenney-hall5875 I disagree. the disturbing thing about a clockwork orange is not the depravity, its because you are encouraged to view the depravity from the point of view of the psychopath that is performing the depraved acts and to see it from his point of view.
That is the whole point of the music. It is alex's movie, alex is the main character in his own film where he shares his perspective and shares his warped worldview and encourages us to go along for the ride.
so when I watch something like antichrist or the human centipede all they do is turn my stomach. They don't really affect me the same way with the same moral repugnance.
@@justindenney-hall5875 yeah and like I said, I yawn when I see something like 'a serbian film' or 'the human centipede'. well maybe I don't yawn but they don't really effect me on an emotional level. why? because it is just so base and obvious. it says that humans can be twisted fucks, but I feel so detached from the perversity on-screen that it really doesn't register. Its been tried many times afterwards but not many films invite you successfully in to the joys of being a gleeful psychopath and see the world from their point of view.
That, and of course the bleakness of the ending. There is no 'good answer' when it comes to alex. He may be 'cured', but he's going to go back to torturing other people whilst getting subsidized by the state because it is politically expedient. Yet even if he hadn't had the 'treatment', he would have gone through prison and learned to be an even more successful psychopath. And I suppose you could have killed alex and his like, but that way lies a tyrannical regime.
so no, I think people who look at modern torture film as being 'disturbing' have a limited grasp of what is disturbing. When something is extreme for the sake of being extreme, it just becomes tedious and boring.
@@justindenney-hall5875 um. no, i'm not trying to sound like i'm cool. I really mean yawn. take the 'sinful dwarf'. in real life, how many sadistic dwarves are out there turning women into prostitutes? Or the human centipede. How many deranged doctors are out there sewing people together? All these are are unrealistic fantasies - all made simply for shock value with unbelievable premises and manufactured outrage. So when I see these films the unreality of the film undermines any shocking things I see on film.
Whereas there are plenty of Alexes out there. And the premise is plausible - in fact multiple would-be droogs basically committed copycat crimes after the film was released. So films like this which have horror reflected in reality always pack more of a punch for me. And ACO is one of the only films like I said which forces you to take the POV of the protagonist monster so it holds a special position.
Good reaction. Thank's. Guy with glasses that plays Julian was Darth Vader, his name is David Prowse. RIP
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Alex is criminally insane. The first part of the movie is showing you how his mind works, which is very different from the "norm". He views life through a distorted prism. The treatment is rendering him incapable of acting on his dysfunctional "wiring". To me, the most terrifying moment is when Alex realizes that he's going to lose his love for Beethoven as part of his "cure". They took the one thing in his life that was good and pure, and destroyed it.
Fun Film Fact: Originally, Kubrick had wanted Mick Jagger and the Rolling Stones to play Alex and his Droogs.
Good observation about he symmetry. It was a trademark of Kubricks films. You can see it in The Shining and 2001 too.
The "bodybuilder" was played by David Prowse, also known as Darth Vader (minus James Earl Jones' voice).
If you guys ever get to Kubrick's final film - Eyes Wide Shut - I recommend you watch it during the Christmas season.
Good idea! It is Stanley's Christmas movie! And that gives them plenty of time to do all the other movies.....which I like better! lol ACTUALLY....its best right AFTER Xmas...when the lights are still up, but the cynicism has set in!!!!! :P
This one is definitely a weird take for the first time watching. It takes a few times to watch and more of the story to realize how great of a master piece this movie is.
I thought they did great, I've never seen them so energized and dazzled, I think they totally got it and their comments about Kubrick at the end obviously show that this one "sealed the deal", and the realization that each movie of his was completely different, and a total experience was palpable. They TOTALLY realized what a great masterpiece this movie is, and I think they realized that pretty early in the video! Like..right away! How is this a "weird take" for the first time watching it?
And how darkly, darkly, darkly funny it is.
This is one of my all time favorites, as is the book. Beyond all the stylized violence it is an examination of the idea of ' institutionalized violence' (the prison system) and the role of the state versus the individual as far as violence and the possibility of redemption is concerned. The final chapter of the book pretty much ties Burgess' notions together on the subject, but Kubrick opted not to use that part in the film as he thought American audiences wouldn't appreciate it, or would look at it as a cop-out ending. This film is beautiful for so many reasons.
@@cgbleak it ain't that funny
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What can I say? As with most Kubrick, the more often I watch it, the funnier it gets. At this point, 2001 is a laugh riot (Zero Gravity Toilet instructions? A bushbaby? "Without your space helmet, Dave, you're going to find that rather difficult"? Space helmet? Is that what they call it? "Rather" difficult? it damn near kills him). Your milage may vary, but the black humor is there if you look for it and more so in A Clockwork Orange than in 2001.
Eyes Wide Shut should be next. Kubrick's final film, and one of his best.
I couldn't believe this move was in your queue. You two didn't disappoint, your faces throughout the movie were amazing. Horror, disgust, incomprehension...
As always, I enjoy the wrap up discussion. Do you think you will ever re-watch this movie?
The bodybuilder is played David Prowse who played Darth Vader and the man who played Alex's father played Grady the waiter/caretaker, who killed his family with an axe, in "The Shining."
The actor who plays the priest also plays Captain Grogan in "Barry Lyndon."
It's like art - now watch Barry Lyndon. In this movie literally paintings coming to live.
Malcom McDowel almost lost his eyes and got serious damage to his cornea from the famous scene...the guys was not putting fast enough some liquid for his eyes. You would not be able to do something like that now !
He also almost drowned in that scene where his head is held underwater. The devise that gave him air malfunctioned.
The guy giving him eyedrops was a doctor. (Fun fact: Stanley Kubrick's father was a doctor.) But, yeah, only Kubrick would film something like this.
@@EdDunkleKubrick's father even used to get film fan letters as well!
@24:57 your expressions and comment kinda sums it all up really XD
A couple of comments about the is film:
During Alex's Ludovico Technique/Brain washing procedure Malcolm McDowell actually had one of his corena's sliced during filming.
The actor who plays Alex's father is Philip Stone who also starred in Kubrick's The Shining playing the Butler Delbert Grady, he also plays a character in another Kubrick film Barry Lyndon which is my favorite Kubrick film.
Also the actor who played the body builder is actually David Prowse who played Darth Vader in Star Wars.
Hullo, my droogs. Love the film’s message that although the violence of an individual may be bad, a government’s power and evil is much worse.
The UK version of the book has 21 chapters. Alex gets older and starts to change. The movie was filmed using the US version of the book.
Hopefully DR STRANGELOVE is the next Kubrick. It’s very funny.
One of the best satires ever.
I love it
I was 15 in 1971 and I do remember when 'A Clockwork Orange' was released that year. I really wanted to see it back then, but it was Rated X, no one under 18 was admitted to go see it. It was two years (17) later when I saw it, and it is still one of my all time favorite films to this very day. And because of 'A Clockwork Orange' that is the film that I showed an appreciation for Classical Music. 'A Clockwork Orange' is a novel written by English writer Anthony Burgess and was published in 1962. The main character Alex is the narrator in the novel and he is 15 years old, and also the two girls that he meets and picks up at the record shop are only around 10, 11 years old. And yes, Alex did get his groove on them in the novel, which I have read many times.
Anthony Burgess's title is inspired by the Cockney expression "queer as a clockwork orange" ("queer" meaning "strange" or "unusual").
Both the novel and the film imply that wild oranges, like Alex himself, are living things that should be allowed to grow in natural and unpredictable ways.
By contrast, the Ludovico technique involves an attempt to reduce the natural complexity of a living, organic "orange" into a mindless and mechanized "clockwork" object.
Fun fact, the bodybuilder plays darth vader in star wars (the guy in the suit, not the voice)
Now you need to watch what many consider to be Kubric's masterpiece, "Doctor Strangelove, or How I Learned to Love the Bomb" (yes, that's the full title).
A Kubrick movie can be a life changing experience. I know I felt like I'd never really see the world the same way after a few of them.
How I learned to stop worrying and love the bomb
@@jamesbown8948 I think yours is the actual version, but I've seen it both ways.
I have trouble finding reactions to Dr. Strangelove, even thought it's one of the greatest movies ever made. I really hope they continue their Kubrick series until they get to it...
They have a reaction video for the film-if you haven't seen it yet.
The I'm singing in the rain scene was improvised by Malcolm McDowell when told to add more life to the scene.
Thanks for the reaction guys, this is a very tough one but once again you really got it, it always amazes me. I did mention how hard it was going to be to get a RUclips ready edit for this, but I didn't want to say too much and spoil anything. There is a lot that can be said about this movie in terms of historical significance and the context and purpose of it, but one thing you definitely say after watching the Kubrick films you have---He DOESN'T mess around. You guys have really dived in the deep end and watched all the toughest Kubrick films first--everything after this is pretty smooth sailing and I would highly recommend Dr. Strangelove next--I think you could have a lot of fun with that one.
It was a rough edit! Dr. Strangelove will be the next Kubrick film we tackle!
My favorite of his films is Barry Lyndon
@@samantha_schmitt I agree with so many others. (I'm close to patronizing you.) Barry Lyndon will make you see another aspect of the Great Man, Kubrick, at his most humane and beautiful--although still with humanity's warts and all.
@@dreiserrules9414 I love the cinematography, but the story is boring...Thackeray's fault, of course.
the dad figure was in THE SHINING as the bartender from long ago.
If you're doing Kubrick, I hope you go on to watch Barry Lyndon as well. It seems to be underappreciated compared to some of his other films, but I love it. It is also one of the most beautiful films I've seen.
The opening shot of Malcolm McDowell, he raised his glass and "toasted" the camera. This was an ad-lib and when asked by Kubrick why he did it replied "I wanted to let them know what a wild ride they are in for." Kubrick loved this and so it stayed.
Also the language/slang used in the film is called nadsat and is based on Russian dialect.
The book often comes with a glossary of meanings which helps but after a while you just get it and can understand it.
Thank you, not just for sharing that bit of trivia (which is on Malcom McDowell's audio commentary track, which is great!), but for NOT being one of seemingly hundreds who keep writing about the bodybuilder being Darth Vader, or how McDowell's cornea got scratched! Don't these people scroll down a bit before they comment? LOL!
@@TTM9691 thank you. I just tried to add something to the comments on one of my favourite films.
@@weescamp You succeeded! As far as I could see, you're the only one who mentioned that! And it's a way cool bit of trivia. :)
I remember watching the trailer when I was a little kid on HBO, and my parents were like, you can't watch that. I'm 50 years old I turned out OK.
I hope you all react to Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb.
"Dr. Strangelove" and "Paths Of Glory" are the next two undisputed masterpieces that I don't think anyone would argue with. The other remaining ones have their detractors, or their weaknesses, but "Dr. Strangelove" and "Paths of Glory" I've never heard a bad word about. One is very funny, one is very sad. After those, you'll say "Full Metal who?" :P
From a book which is social commentary, made into the weird art style of the times. I think we are supposed to feel confused and repulsed, yet we still watch. The horrible Manson Murders happened in 1969; lots of social turmoil going on then.
Manson murders were in 1969.
I think you mean 1969.
This film is the definition of ultra violence
"They're on that milk."
A few notes on this film...
The old man's bodybuilding protector was played by David Prowse, aka Darth flippin Vader
Malcolm McDowell got a legit scratched cornea while filming the lidlock scenes
The scene where Alex's postcorrective advisor spits on him after informing Alex he was a murderer took 70 takes to film because Kubrick wanted the loogie to look exactly perfect on Malcolm McDowell's face
"Singing In The Rain" was an ad-lib on McDowell's part. He happened to meet Gene Kelly at an awards show a few years later. Kelly refused to speak to him.
My favorite scene is the awkward dinner. "Food alright?"
That scene where his eye lids were pulled back did real damage to the actor's eye. His cornea got sliced in the process of filming that scene.
Good God!
Alex is irredeemable and quite evil, an absolute horrible person. However, what is done to him isn't actual change for the better, he is still who he is throughout the film. Taking away free choice and forcing change through torture or coercion is what the book is about. Kubrick is actually doing a bit more with the film than what is in the book, but the overall message is still there. We actually see things like this today in social media, people canceling others and calling for people to be fired, and even calling for and committing violence, to force change on people they disagree with. It's a hard film to watch, but the overall message is worth seeing. Not to mention the cinematography and overall film is well done.
Oh yeah, I totally forgot! Malcolm McDowell was actually terrified of snakes, but Kubrick actually added more time with the snake in the film, trolling McDowell. When Alex runs into his former gang members as Police, their numbers are 665 and 667, so when they're with Alex standing between them, Alex would be 666.
The "bodybuilder" also played Darth Vader in all the Star Wars films. So much good hidden trivia in this film, it's a classic Kubrick movie.
This movie was so controversial, it was banned in the UK for it's strong graphic sex scenes and brutal violence. It was nominated for Best Picture, but lost to The French Connection.
The original release was given an X rating in the US. Kubrick had to cut about 30 seconds when it was released to get an R rating.
@@havok6280 - yes, X rated in the USA.
It was banned in a couple of cities in the UK when it premiered and also in a couple of countries (South Africa, Brazil and Argentina). The censorship in the UK was not done by the British board of film censorship but instead by local politicians. Later on in 1973 Kubrick himself decided to take the film out of circulation in Britain and it was not shown in Britain up until his death in 1999. It was then released in cinemas in Britain in 2000. It was available everywhere else since its release like any other movie.
I think because it was so controversial when it came out, I wanted to see it even more. When I finally got to see it, I thought, “this isn’t that bad” - because it was so surreal and the scenes framed so exquisitely. Of course, it perverted “singing in the rain” for so many!
I'm sure many people will bring up Eyes Wide Shut, Barry Lyndon, Lolita, etc., but I really hope you check out Paths of Glory. You cover quite a few war movies on the channel, which is probably my least-favorite genre, but Paths of Glory is one of my favorites among those I have seen, and doesn't get the same level of coverage as Kubrick's more big-budget mainstream films.
If you want to see Malcolm McDowell in a much more positive role, I would suggest you check out “Time After Time” in which he plays a time-traveling H.G. Wells. He’s wonderful in it.