That was a fascinating information about the Eagles! I think it fits so much better that they are Maiar, and also provides a good explanation for why they didn't simply fly the One Ring to Mount Doom.
Great video. So from what you say about Sauron being tied to the ring and will always come back as long as it exists it is in that respect similar to the horcruxes in HP.
The difference is that the function wasn't to preserve his life (he can't be killed) but to enhance his ability to dominate others. He put so much power into the ring however, that breaking it broke enough of his power to render him helpless.
Gandalf's plan to enter Mordor, as the title says this video is about? Although we don't know for certain, he may have had one of several plans. He had questioned Gollum, so he might have known about the stairs Frodo and Sam took, whether or not he knew Shelob was there. He may have known other hidden passages. Obviously he couldn't enter through the Black Gate, but Minas Morgul and Cirith Ungol weren't designed to keep out individuals, they were overlooking the road to prevent armies from entering so perhaps one could, unlike Boromir's statement, "simply walk into Mordor." Then again, maybe Gandalf planned to get through Minas Morgul and Cirith Ungol the same way he previously got through Moria, Dol Guldur, and saved Thorin & Co. from the Goblin King... Sheer stealth or perhaps some wizardry.
I will always have a soft spot for the art style of the Rankin/Bass adaptation of "The Hobbit", as the copy of the book that introduced me to the story (and to Tolkien's work overall) was a battered special edition book (borrowed from my local library) that was richly illustrated with stills from that adaptation, combined with Tolkien's written text. That said, it is most definitely very ugly! When I first saw their version of Smaug, I wondered if the story had some connection to the Thundercats cartoon (which was made by the same studio a few years later).
I notice that in both THE HOBBIT and THE LORD OF THE RINGS Gandalf doesn't really have a detailed plan. There is a need to get somewhere, and a final goal, but the details in between or at least near the end are vague.
Random q, is it intentional that members only videos don't work with youtube background play, or is it something youtube does automatically? Also, very interesting facts about Cirdan's age, makes me wonder, did Middle Earth denizens count years and ages like we do for their timeline (e.g. 1st, 2nd, 3rd age etc)?
I looked into the background play videos for member videos and it seems to be an intended "feature". Doesn't seem very good to me, but sadly I can't change it. They do count the ages in ME but they don't always agree on them, that's why there's things like Shire Reckoning. One example would be the Third Age ending with Sauron's defeat according to The Shire, but in Gondor they counted it when Elrond sailed to the West.
@@John-Sierra Thank you, that makes sense. It seems in general members only videos don't allow the same privileges as normal videos with youtube prime, but it's only for a few days, so it's not a big deal.
Been enjoying the content man. I've gone through so many LOTR lore videos. Read the books, listen to the audio books, watched the movies and played the video games. But your LOTR content feels fresh. I don't have quora. But my question is , how do you think the ring benefited sam? The ring seems to strengthen whoever it's bearer is differently, and when Sam saved frodo from the tower of cirth ungol the orcs perceived him as a powerful elf warrior or something of the like. Do you think it was just the shadows and Sam's wrath or did the ring have a role to play in enhancing his shadow and presence ?
I don't think it benefitted him at all - the ring makes promises, some of them quite empty. Sam's vision, when he held The One Ring was himself as a great hero who would ride throughout Middle-Earth and restore it, to make it all one big garden. It didn't work on Sam because he only wanted a bit of garden to himself. The One Ring had very little to work with - compared to say Gandalf, whose desire to do good would allow The One Ring to consume him, but Sam is so humble, his "do good" is just "help Frodo, because he's my friend and I love him" and nothing more than that. If one came to Sam before it all started and said "Sam, you're going to save the world" he'd shake his head and laugh, and say that's left to bigger and smarter people than him.
They did, it's just that Morgoth got to the elves quickly. They sent the guardians to protect the elves while they fought him. This is why Morgoth hated elves, he felt that the Valar turned on him for their sake.
The elves weren't actually turned to Orcs, that was an idea that Tolkien had once, but if you notice it's never directly mentioned in The Silmarillion - just that the Valar were aware that Melkor was capturing and torturing elves, and that Orcs started appearing around the same time. Tolkien later decided that Orcs were not derived from elves, but rather made in mockery of them, using necromancy. Sadly, only Ilúvatar could save the Orcs, and it would require them to repent. While Tolkien stated that he cannot personally imagine Orcs repenting, he had faith that they eventually would.
I actually have those. Well, one do far with a second on the way. I've been livestreaming reading The Hobbit on twitch and putting the videos here, and will do so with his other works as well.
That was a fascinating information about the Eagles! I think it fits so much better that they are Maiar, and also provides a good explanation for why they didn't simply fly the One Ring to Mount Doom.
Thanks for the upload, man! Very glad to see it!
You create quality content as always
Great video. So from what you say about Sauron being tied to the ring and will always come back as long as it exists it is in that respect similar to the horcruxes in HP.
The difference is that the function wasn't to preserve his life (he can't be killed) but to enhance his ability to dominate others. He put so much power into the ring however, that breaking it broke enough of his power to render him helpless.
Gandalf's plan to enter Mordor, as the title says this video is about? Although we don't know for certain, he may have had one of several plans. He had questioned Gollum, so he might have known about the stairs Frodo and Sam took, whether or not he knew Shelob was there. He may have known other hidden passages. Obviously he couldn't enter through the Black Gate, but Minas Morgul and Cirith Ungol weren't designed to keep out individuals, they were overlooking the road to prevent armies from entering so perhaps one could, unlike Boromir's statement, "simply walk into Mordor."
Then again, maybe Gandalf planned to get through Minas Morgul and Cirith Ungol the same way he previously got through Moria, Dol Guldur, and saved Thorin & Co. from the Goblin King... Sheer stealth or perhaps some wizardry.
I will always have a soft spot for the art style of the Rankin/Bass adaptation of "The Hobbit", as the copy of the book that introduced me to the story (and to Tolkien's work overall) was a battered special edition book (borrowed from my local library) that was richly illustrated with stills from that adaptation, combined with Tolkien's written text. That said, it is most definitely very ugly! When I first saw their version of Smaug, I wondered if the story had some connection to the Thundercats cartoon (which was made by the same studio a few years later).
I notice that in both THE HOBBIT and THE LORD OF THE RINGS Gandalf doesn't really have a detailed plan. There is a need to get somewhere, and a final goal, but the details in between or at least near the end are vague.
Random q, is it intentional that members only videos don't work with youtube background play, or is it something youtube does automatically?
Also, very interesting facts about Cirdan's age, makes me wonder, did Middle Earth denizens count years and ages like we do for their timeline (e.g. 1st, 2nd, 3rd age etc)?
I looked into the background play videos for member videos and it seems to be an intended "feature". Doesn't seem very good to me, but sadly I can't change it.
They do count the ages in ME but they don't always agree on them, that's why there's things like Shire Reckoning. One example would be the Third Age ending with Sauron's defeat according to The Shire, but in Gondor they counted it when Elrond sailed to the West.
@@John-Sierra Thank you, that makes sense. It seems in general members only videos don't allow the same privileges as normal videos with youtube prime, but it's only for a few days, so it's not a big deal.
Been enjoying the content man. I've gone through so many LOTR lore videos. Read the books, listen to the audio books, watched the movies and played the video games. But your LOTR content feels fresh.
I don't have quora. But my question is , how do you think the ring benefited sam? The ring seems to strengthen whoever it's bearer is differently, and when Sam saved frodo from the tower of cirth ungol the orcs perceived him as a powerful elf warrior or something of the like. Do you think it was just the shadows and Sam's wrath or did the ring have a role to play in enhancing his shadow and presence ?
I don't think it benefitted him at all - the ring makes promises, some of them quite empty. Sam's vision, when he held The One Ring was himself as a great hero who would ride throughout Middle-Earth and restore it, to make it all one big garden. It didn't work on Sam because he only wanted a bit of garden to himself. The One Ring had very little to work with - compared to say Gandalf, whose desire to do good would allow The One Ring to consume him, but Sam is so humble, his "do good" is just "help Frodo, because he's my friend and I love him" and nothing more than that. If one came to Sam before it all started and said "Sam, you're going to save the world" he'd shake his head and laugh, and say that's left to bigger and smarter people than him.
20:30 title question, TL;DW "Don't know, nobody does"
Why didnt the valar rescue the elves from being tortured by Morgoth?
They did, it's just that Morgoth got to the elves quickly. They sent the guardians to protect the elves while they fought him. This is why Morgoth hated elves, he felt that the Valar turned on him for their sake.
@@John-Sierra they rescued the ones that turned to orcs?
The elves weren't actually turned to Orcs, that was an idea that Tolkien had once, but if you notice it's never directly mentioned in The Silmarillion - just that the Valar were aware that Melkor was capturing and torturing elves, and that Orcs started appearing around the same time. Tolkien later decided that Orcs were not derived from elves, but rather made in mockery of them, using necromancy. Sadly, only Ilúvatar could save the Orcs, and it would require them to repent. While Tolkien stated that he cannot personally imagine Orcs repenting, he had faith that they eventually would.
I wouldnt mind a video where you just read from Tolkien's works.
I actually have those. Well, one do far with a second on the way. I've been livestreaming reading The Hobbit on twitch and putting the videos here, and will do so with his other works as well.
Blindingly obvious if you’ve read the books!
It's these sorts of unkind comments that are the entire reason I make the content I do. No one deserves an answer like yours to any question.
@@John-Sierra been reading them since I was eight years old. At least once a year. So what qualifies you to call yourself a Tolkien Scholar?