The Cluedo Game Show - A Retrospective | Documentary

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  • Опубликовано: 5 ноя 2024

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  • @officialbackintheday
    @officialbackintheday  3 месяца назад +23

    Hope you enjoy everyone! I had a bit of a nightmare finishing this one when I accidentally deleted the file of my voice recording for this script! Somehow managed to save it though! It would mean the world if you could subscribe to the channel and please share this with anyone you think might be interested. Work starts on the next video tomorrow. Thanks everyone!

  • @chonkycheeze
    @chonkycheeze 3 месяца назад +18

    I discovered this channel last year when I stumbled upon one of your videos on The Crystal Maze. I realized almost immediately that it wasn’t about the show I’d *actually* been searching for (a long-forgotten American game show called Masters of the Maze), but I’ve never been so happy to be disappointed. Your videos were (and are) so good that I’m always absolutely thrilled to see a notification pop up and say to myself, “An hour-long video about a British game show I’ve never heard of? Can’t wait to check it out!”
    Thank you so much for making such consistently wonderful work!

    • @officialbackintheday
      @officialbackintheday  3 месяца назад +3

      @@chonkycheeze Thanks so much for the lovely comment! Glad to have you on board and hope you enjoy the video. I'll definitely need to check out Masters of the Maze!

    • @officialbackintheday
      @officialbackintheday  3 месяца назад

      @@totallybored5526 Check out my video on Knightmare :)

  • @nickcopland5186
    @nickcopland5186 3 месяца назад +11

    It's mad to think how this one show had Multiverse Crossovers of great actors from classic films and TV shows to TV presenters from a variety of different programmes

    • @eastmeetswestpresents6923
      @eastmeetswestpresents6923 17 дней назад

      And if you think about it, in every series, at least one actor in the main cast of suspects played a character in Doctor Who

  • @Coin945
    @Coin945 28 дней назад +3

    As the guy that dug into the archives and wrote the comprehensive Wikipedia article on the Cluedo Australian TV series, it’s really heart-warming to know that you used it as the basis for this video. (If you want to use the British-related sections to buff out the UK article and feel free)!

  • @dellzincht
    @dellzincht 2 месяца назад +6

    Loved watching this as a kid, but strangely the thing I remember the most about it as an adult is the theme tune and voiceover introducing viewers to the cast of the show, it all felt pretty sinister and set the tone of the show perfectly!

  • @colemanfrancis
    @colemanfrancis 3 месяца назад +7

    It was Leslie Grantham in the back of the taxi with the gun.

  • @GregOrCreg
    @GregOrCreg 2 месяца назад +3

    Thank you for this video. This was honestly one of my favourite shows back in the day. I love the combination of campy drama and whodunnit quiz show (although I'd have happily have taken a non-quiz show simply featuring the drama part of the show).

  • @lomion79
    @lomion79 3 месяца назад +6

    Enjoyed watching "Cluedo?' back in the day. Great theme tune and some terrific performances from the casts.
    I may be wrong, but I have a memory of June Whitfield's Mrs White often taking a drink when facing an accusation.

    • @nWg2000
      @nWg2000 2 месяца назад

      She did and was the best Mrs White as well. The theme tune is also epic!

  • @jedthementalist5112
    @jedthementalist5112 3 месяца назад +6

    16:33 Smug, arrogant...... count!? I misheard that, had to replay it. Great show from my childhood. Thanks for the retrospective.

  • @emmajk7433
    @emmajk7433 3 месяца назад +5

    I used to enjoy watching this when I was young with my parents ... you did an amazing job

  • @Whoopij1
    @Whoopij1 3 месяца назад +6

    Loved watching cluedo as a kid. Made me seek out whodunnit from before I was born to watch and also the murder game with it's extras via the red button. All classics

  • @fishpop
    @fishpop 3 месяца назад +3

    13:06 Top of that magazine says it's from August 1990. I wasn't born until December 1991 so this was before my time but i think i'd have enjoyed it.

  • @pipoo1
    @pipoo1 2 месяца назад +3

    If you get round to Fun House and Finders Keepers, TVS who made the UK version of Finders Keepers also did a game show version of Mouse Trap which was an integral part of their Saturday morning show Motormouth during its third and fourth seasons, the level of detail the TVS team went into to recreate the Mousetrap board was amazing.

  • @AndrewMartinIsHere
    @AndrewMartinIsHere 3 месяца назад +3

    I adored this programme when it was going out, but my parents hated it, so didn't get to see many episodes. Wish it could come back in a similar format.

  • @robertqld
    @robertqld 2 месяца назад +2

    I remember the Australian one as a kid and I felt so so smart figuring out the person/weapon/room early on in the episode!
    Probably only happened once and I just got lucky, but dang I thought I should go into the audience and play after that (even though I was like 12!) Lol

  • @KujiRaWWR
    @KujiRaWWR 3 месяца назад +7

    plz plz plz do an episode on the murder game , i remember watching it and being absolutely terrified and enthralled by it as a kid

    • @adammcardle
      @adammcardle 3 месяца назад +1

      I was about to ask for the same. Please do it!

    • @andrewmartin6410
      @andrewmartin6410 2 месяца назад +1

      Yes yes yes. Andrew's luck was so funny to watch.

    • @erikdraven1731
      @erikdraven1731 2 месяца назад

      I watched the US version (Murder in Small Town X) First, but I can admit that the individual investigations terrified me a lot more in the Murder Game.

    • @KujiRaWWR
      @KujiRaWWR 2 месяца назад

      @@erikdraven1731 i didsnt even know there was one ill have to check it out , thanks for telling me !!!

  • @marquonuk
    @marquonuk 3 месяца назад +4

    Good video. Nice format, and very comprehensive. Enjoyed it. :-)

  • @TonySpike
    @TonySpike 2 месяца назад +2

    Despite watching this pretty regularly this one slipped my mind
    I mean their has always been a tiny part of the back of my mind that remembers this one (witch is wierd because i was 6 when this came out and i remember crystal maze and krypton factor pretty well)
    But its so small i thought it to be a dream, so watching this has been a bit of a nostalgia trip

    • @officialbackintheday
      @officialbackintheday  2 месяца назад

      Thanks for watching - glad to have taken you on a nice little nostalgia trip!

  • @williamcrowe2576
    @williamcrowe2576 2 месяца назад +2

    Sure wish there was an official DVD/BluRay release with cooperation from Hasbro, or at least a stream of it on Tubi.

  • @andrewh5568
    @andrewh5568 2 месяца назад +2

    The Australian version was great, the audience also got to guess the clues on some computer and change it at any time during the recording, their data was given the the contestants AND if you guessed right AND didn't change it before the final reveal you'd get a prize as an audience member.
    Then, as a secondary prize for home viewers, if you guessed when the audience member made their guess(between 730pm and 8pm when it aired) by phoning into a pay telephone number then you'd also win a prize.
    Also they had seven characters, the six murder suspects AND a detective who showed up and investigated the case. Which was pretty fun.

  • @tonystrainsofrugby
    @tonystrainsofrugby 2 месяца назад +2

    Just finished the first two series and the Xmas special :) Standout performers for me were Series One Professor Plum (I love how OTT he is in the studio!) and Richard Wilson as Reverend Green in Series Two. Enjoyed Nick Berry's cameo too. Only let down actor wise for me was Ian Lavender as Plum... looking forward to series three! Also Mr White should definitely had been a suspect the number of times he "finds" the body in series one lol

    • @officialbackintheday
      @officialbackintheday  2 месяца назад +2

      Glad you're enjoying the show! Definitely loved Richard Wilson as Rev. Green!

  • @MikeLarky83
    @MikeLarky83 3 месяца назад +3

    Another brilliant video! I loved this show growing up and recently watched them on RUclips. Along with Knightmare, Crystal Maze and gladiators you are covering all my favourites! Krypton Factor next? Please :)

  • @Matthew6248
    @Matthew6248 3 месяца назад +8

    Suhgestions for future episodes: Finders Keepers (Debuted in America only to be a bigger hit in UK), Fun House (same story as finders keepers), Lingo (Pre G.S.N meaning the 1987 North American Version and the UK one) and Wipeout (1988 version) (another US game show that spawned a UK version)

    • @officialbackintheday
      @officialbackintheday  3 месяца назад

      @@Matthew6248 Thanks for the great suggestions, will add them to my list!

    • @evonne_o
      @evonne_o 3 месяца назад

      Ah Funhouse you KNEW the weekend started when this show was shown.

    • @CaledoniaStorm
      @CaledoniaStorm 2 месяца назад

      I'd quite like to see a retrospective of Richard Stilgoe's Finders Keepers from the early-mid '80s. It was basically a computerised version of Battleship. I remember loving it in the day, though it seems to be nearly forgotten about now. If anyone remembers the name at all now, they go to the Neil Buchanan series, which was a completely different game.

  • @ModelsExInferis
    @ModelsExInferis 3 месяца назад +5

    How the heck have I never seen this?! Usually if I've not seen something it's because it's coincided with Emmerdale or Corrie as those are my Mum's soaps, but if this was on ITV then that can't be the case. And as a lover of both the boardgame and the Tim Curry film I would absolutely have wanted to watch this! Weird. Oh well, I'll just have to watch it now!
    Lots of Doctor Who interest here too. Other than the glaringly obvious Tom Baker, there's Kate O'Mara (who played the amazing evil genius chemist Time Lord the Rani in Colin Baker's "The Mark of the Rani", and later in Sylvester McCoy's first outing as the Doctor "Time and the Rani"), Michael Jayston (the Valeyard from Colin Baker's serial "Trial of a Timelord"), Nicholas Parsons (who oddly played another vicar in Sylvester McCoy's final series story "The Curse of Fenric") and Joanna Lumley (who is the first female Doctor and I will die on that hill in the Comic Relief skit "The Curse of the Fatal Death"). Also, a very young Sean Pertwee and if I need to explain that one his dad was shown in the first part of this video!

    • @GregOrCreg
      @GregOrCreg 2 месяца назад

      Apparently, Tracy-Louise Ward (Miss Scarlett in the first series of Cluedo) also appeared in 2 1985 episodes of Doctor Who as a character called 'Katz'.

  • @That_Ifrit_Guy
    @That_Ifrit_Guy 3 месяца назад +3

    Oh this looks like a fun watch
    Thanks for introducing to me :D

  • @tonystrainsofrugby
    @tonystrainsofrugby 2 месяца назад +2

    Good video, would suggest you look up the 1970s quiz show "Whodunnit" though hosted by Edward Woodward and later Jon Pertwee where a series of actors act out a whodunnit style murder and a celebrity panel has to deduct the murderer. Although the characters and scenarios change every episode there you can clearly see that the premise of the Cluedo gameshow takes more influence from that than it does from the board game and my assumption would be the board game has potential been tied in as an attempt to increase viewership due to a recognisable part of life, most people having played Cluedo at some point :)

  • @cartoonhead9222
    @cartoonhead9222 3 месяца назад +1

    Never heard of this at all! It's absolutely full of stars too. Madeley looking exceedingly dapper here.

  • @TheHopperUK
    @TheHopperUK 3 месяца назад +2

    I loved this show when I was a kid! Had a large crush on one of the Professors Plum for some reason.

  • @kate_cooper
    @kate_cooper 3 месяца назад +2

    What I like about this show is how they switched it up every season, as well as changing the actors and the set, they changed the whole tone.
    The first one was very hammy and over the top; the second and third played it a bit more straight, and the third also made Mrs Peacock a good stepmother to Miss Scarlett and all three female characters into much nicer people; and the fourth was best described as glorious, gothic cartoonishness with every character having only one outfit each (possibly because most of the budget went on the new set) and a military drumbeat playing whenever Colonel Mustard entered or exited a room.
    I got to stream the whole series a few years back and it's fascinating to track the changes. Don't know if it's still up.

    • @GregOrCreg
      @GregOrCreg 2 месяца назад +1

      It's fun to compare the various interpretations of the same characters over the 4 seasons (plus Christmas special, which I must say, in terms of writing, was probably the best episode in the entire show's run). My GOAT cast for the show would likely take actors from across the various seasons.

    • @kate_cooper
      @kate_cooper 2 месяца назад +1

      @@GregOrCreg The Christmas Special was excellent. I love the clever way they incorporated the weapons from the board game.

  • @PlatinumRoseLady
    @PlatinumRoseLady 2 месяца назад +1

    I remember playing Risk with some friends, and one of them put so many armies on Australia you couldn't see the country anymore!

  • @brianfinlay756
    @brianfinlay756 2 месяца назад +2

    Give us a Clue would be good one to cover.

  • @marquonuk
    @marquonuk 3 месяца назад +2

    This was a fair attempt to introduce a new variation on the milestone ITV series "Whodunnit?" of about 20 years earlier, hosted (mainly) by Jon Pertwee. The main difference was that instead of a rotating cast of suspects, scenarios and locations, it followed the Cluedo game format with the same game characters and location each week. They weren't really adapting the board game of the same name, more using the familiar name to attract viewers. Tom Baker was one of the regular murder suspects, and I think David McCallum (if I remember rightly, both played Professor Plum in different series?). Like Whodunnit, the fun of the show was really seeing how well the cast could improvise their answers to any random question asked by the detectives. I think it was said that only the murderer could lie, so that was really how contestants could carefully work out that week's murderer. It was OK, but not as good as "Whodunnit?" That said, I would happily buy a DVD box set of the 4 series to sit alongside my Whodunnit set. :-)

  • @RachelMay1989
    @RachelMay1989 3 месяца назад +1

    I've never heard of this, but it sounds GLORIOUS! I'm a massive fan of Armchair Detectives which was on the BBC a few years ago and this obviously influenced that show. I'm going to hunt it out for a watch 🙂

  • @reoreborn1209
    @reoreborn1209 2 месяца назад +1

    Thank you for this! I used to watch and love this as a kid.
    As a kid I always wondered if the contestants were scripted. For eg what would happen if somebody guessed correctly on the first turn?

  • @SUK2293
    @SUK2293 2 месяца назад +1

    An obvious inspiration for Knives Out...

  • @upkaarbharadia
    @upkaarbharadia 3 месяца назад +1

    So glad you recovered your voice recording file! Congrats on another banger 👏🏽I was obsessed with this show as a child and even did a rewatch five years ago, so it's still fairly fresh in my mind. Such a shame that its innovative format wasn't rewarded with more universal acclaim. Loved the shoutouts for Clue, The Murder Game and The Mole too. IMO Clue is one of the greatest films ever made and, for want of a better word, it's criminal that The Murder Game only lasted one series. Whilst I do like The Traitors, for me it's just an inferior version of The Mole, that lacks a suspenseful mystery element because you already know who the traitors are. I think it's a real shame that it gets almost universal adulation, whilst the UK version of The Mole was hidden away on Channel 5 and then abruptly cancelled because executives believed it was too hard to follow. And at a time before social media existed, which may have given the show a stay of execution.

    • @officialbackintheday
      @officialbackintheday  3 месяца назад +1

      Thanks so much for watching the video! I actually didn't recover the original voice recording file - I had to rerecord it haha! I tried everything to recover it but to no avail, however I think the video turned out okay!

  • @tammyblack2747
    @tammyblack2747 2 месяца назад

    I recognize Tony Slattery. He was on “Whose Line is It Anyway?” with Clive Anderson.

  • @retrogiftsuk4812
    @retrogiftsuk4812 3 месяца назад +1

    Surprised you mentioned Mousetrap as a game from your childhood, without mentioning the TV series with the giant working version of the contraption...
    Great video BTW. I must search out and rewatch the Cluedo TV show as I loved it back in the 90s.
    You're right that they'd never make anything like it now. Far too expensive. Modern gameshows are churned out, filming many episodes every day (often with no audience)

  • @sarat6488
    @sarat6488 3 месяца назад +1

    what a charming show!

  • @brayster1979
    @brayster1979 2 месяца назад +2

    This is epic content

    • @brayster1979
      @brayster1979 2 месяца назад

      Please do similar for Interceptor

  • @nWg2000
    @nWg2000 2 месяца назад +1

    As a big Cluedo fan I loved this show but even as a child I worked out the formulaic approach to the murderer's identity straight away!
    Having rewatched them now as an adult I think the zenith was season 3. The fourth season was a complete trainwreck in my opinion so not surprised it was cancelled. Despite struggling initially with the personas and comical murder motives in season 1 (to be expected), you're right that it eventually turned into a great TV adaptation of the classic game.
    Not sure about that Christmas special though, which seemed to be a nod to the film with all suspects receiving the weapons as gifts, just with really poor backstories - the movie did it much better!

  • @nhailstone
    @nhailstone 3 месяца назад +2

    Loved this show as a kid, wish it lasted a bit longer. Though liz smith killing someone by hitting them with a decanter stopper was pretty silly to me even back then! Watching it back, the final series is a lot more cartoony than the others, much more over the top acting.

    • @GregOrCreg
      @GregOrCreg 2 месяца назад +1

      The final season definitely leaned further into the camp. Just look at Mrs Peacock/Joanne Lumley's wig.

  • @jamesporter2542
    @jamesporter2542 3 месяца назад +3

    One mistake I noticed was you kept saying Miss Scarlet was Mrs. Peacock's daughter. This was true in the 2003 versions of the board game, but in the game show, they were Step-Mother and Step Daughter. I love this game show but having watched a few episodes of the Australian version, they did the show a lot better. Having the audience solve the murder, the suspects always wearing their namesake colour, the show having it's own police officer solve the murder, the same cast throughout the whole series (+ guest victims) and a prize for the winner.

    • @officialbackintheday
      @officialbackintheday  3 месяца назад +3

      Thanks for the clarification. I suppose I was just saying daughter to keep things simple but you're right!

    • @jamesporter2542
      @jamesporter2542 3 месяца назад +2

      @@officialbackintheday I've also heard rumours that Tarrant wasn't the only one who hated being on Cluedo. Lewis Collins wasn't a fan of being on the show either, despite being awesome as Mustard. Not sure the reason why but someone whose famous for his action roles, I kind of get it

    • @GregOrCreg
      @GregOrCreg 2 месяца назад

      @@jamesporter2542 Funny since Collins had appeared in Season 2 as a one-off character. Presumably he enjoyed that experience enough to come back as Colonel Mustard.

  • @mb2000
    @mb2000 3 месяца назад +3

    30:24 “I don’t believe it!”

  • @remconet
    @remconet 3 месяца назад +1

    Awesome video. I was a little disappointed though, that we didn't get any information on how this show was made. Like how was the improvistion done. Did the actors have extensive background scripts; were they given the questions in advance; could they make up their own answers? Also you tell us to "check out" other versions of the show, but don't tell us how to do that.

    • @officialbackintheday
      @officialbackintheday  3 месяца назад

      Good questions! Information is relatively limited on some of those behind the scenes aspects of the show. It is over 30 years old I guess! For the other versions of the show from other countries, just google 'Cluedo [Country Name]' and you'll find them ;)

    • @Coin945
      @Coin945 28 дней назад

      Check out the Wikipedia article Cluedo (Australian TV series).
      I wrote it and it’s super comprehensive.

  • @Michael-v7g6f
    @Michael-v7g6f 2 месяца назад +2

    A bit surprised you didn't mention the debt owed by the ITV series to the vastly superior interactive disc game Cluedo starring Joan Sims and John Standing among others. Superbly written and acted, the melodrama seeped off the screen, with different clues and solution by difficulty level. The ITV version is by no means a bad copy, other attempts don't bother with the plot or clues at all, or are incredibly trite. The Australian TV version felt unwatchable to me.

  • @fishpop
    @fishpop 3 месяца назад +1

    So what were the murder motive in the episodes you covered?

  • @rickmcwhirter4990
    @rickmcwhirter4990 2 месяца назад +1

    Was one of my favourite shows growing up. Series 2 & 3 by far the best. Series 4, with some episodes written by Russell T. Davies, were a bit far-fetched for me. As a kid, I would wonder whether steps were taken to throw the contestants off so that they wouldn't guess correctly on their first go thus spoiling the rest of show. What do you think?

    • @officialbackintheday
      @officialbackintheday  2 месяца назад +1

      I have a feeling that there were multiple different routes each episode could go so that if one of the contestants guessed one of these correct solutions, the show could quickly pivot to something else being the solution, that way prolonging the interrogating and ensuring there is enough content for a full episode. Just a hunch on that though!

  • @twright1983
    @twright1983 3 месяца назад +2

    Really enjoyed this show but the decision in series 4 to announce the murderer to the audience early was bizarre as well as annoying

    • @evonne_o
      @evonne_o 3 месяца назад +1

      It made the 4th series the worse one.

    • @GregOrCreg
      @GregOrCreg 2 месяца назад

      It had the same annoying effect as the pre-Match of the Day football results on the news: "If you don't want to know the scores, look away now." The annoying this is, you don't know how long you need to put the sound on mute and close your eyes for, and it's not like today when if you miss something you can just do a live rewind.

  • @TheSandwichAftermath
    @TheSandwichAftermath 2 месяца назад +1

    Would you happen to know of a place where I could watch the episodes?

  • @Dim4323
    @Dim4323 3 месяца назад +1

    Also Their was no conservatory in the show

  • @TheBeird
    @TheBeird 3 месяца назад +1

    Never saw this as a kid. But I did watch lots of Poirot with my mum so maybe that counts? 🤷‍♂️

  • @andrewbevan4662
    @andrewbevan4662 3 месяца назад +2

    A bit dark to include an actual murderer in the cast...

  • @nicolamarchbank1846
    @nicolamarchbank1846 3 месяца назад

    The acting cast were well slumming it.

    • @GregOrCreg
      @GregOrCreg 2 месяца назад

      Biggins was 'slumming it'? LOL!

  • @David-dy7xc
    @David-dy7xc 3 месяца назад +2

    season 4 is considered the worst of them all

    • @robertmorrison9702
      @robertmorrison9702 2 месяца назад

      For good reason. I don't know whose decision it was to make every single character into a psychopath. But, it hurt the quality of the show with them not having down to Earth, flawed characters. Not... mustache twirling villains.

  • @RunOfTheHind
    @RunOfTheHind 2 месяца назад

    'Sorry, it's difficult to understand you when you say "splidding" because I know in real life you say "splitting". Interesting the way you substitute a 'd' for a 't' when you're broadcasting. If you ask me, it's the behaviour of a dosser'.

  • @ebow7964
    @ebow7964 3 месяца назад

    I don't have a clue what your talking about 😂