@@timyuusis3372 you will not regret it one of the best single player experiences of the past decade and the company that makes horizon is the same company that used to make the Red Faction games
Something I love about horizon is that you can clearly tell which machines and facilities were designed by humans and which ones were made by the AI systems. All of the AI designed facilities and machines have an organic feel to them while you can clearly see the human footprint on the other ones. I love that so much!
Agreed, the feeling you get when going through a cauldron really evokes the same vibe as Neo going into the machine city. Completely alien and unfathomably advanced. Cold and efficient, unrecognizable yet familiar.. one big metal organism.
I still remember encountering the data log that said something about one of the Metal Devil's consuming a pod of endangered dolphins. I took a look at that and thought, "Faro... How did you ever think this was a good ideal?"
Near the Tiwi Islands of the Northern Territory of Australia? Small little place, but I live near there...great imagination on behalf of the game creators!
A prequel would be unnecessary imo. The mysteriousness of Zero Dawn and unraveling the world through holograms and data points are much more intriguing and epic than actually seeing it in motion. And I doubt the game would be interesting with Aloy not being made yet. How would the game even function? Or would we just be Elisabet and watch the world descend into chaos? I’m genuinely asking now since I’ve often seen people talk about a potential prequel before the events. It just doesn’t make that much sense.
@@MalachiPlaysGames It can be possible on a screenwriter’s perspective. Just my thoughts though, there are lots of ways to introduce past chronological events on a current time setting.
@@MalachiPlaysGames maybe it’s just a bunch of unique characters. perhaps a general in the military fighting and you see the war raging, then it goes to a researcher for apollo etc it can be tons of character but doesn’t need to be canon
This made me realize that faro saying to Sobeks memorial "so now youre a hero and a martyr" or something like that, and thats all he says... he was jealous. He would be remembered as the villain, and her, the hero. When i played the game, i thought he actually meant what he said, about our history being a plague... but in reality he just didnt want anyone to remember HIS plague.
YES! I literally just played through that part and those were my thoughts exactly. After he did what he did to Apollo, it was too clear. He was a s*** human.
"And now that we have a chance to secure the future of earth, he's shitting himself because he's afraid that history books won't be flattering enough" - Sadavir Errinwright, The Expanse. This is why you can't let CEOs run the world. Because they'll always think about themselves and their legacy before they think about everybody else.
The year is 3038. Aloy finds out when she enters Ted Faro's office and Faro's computer system tells "Dr. Sobek" that she is 355510 days (973 years, 122 days) late for her meeting with Ted Faro, supposedly to have happened on October 31, 2064. This means that the day Aloy steps into the ruin of Ted's office, the date is March 2, 3038.
@ArkunusStilshireHistory is such an odd thing. The last battle of the samurai was when Abraham Lincoln was President of the US. There was a period of over a decade when samurai mercenaries fighting in South America could have received a fax message from Abraham Lincoln. Lots of things we think of as being far apart happened in a very short timespan. And conversely, some things were further away than we think - Cleopatra was born closer to the building of the first McDonalds than the building of the last pyramid.
No. She showed up for those meetings. The one she didnt show up in person for is the one where she calls from the VTOL enroute to USRC on november 3rd 2064. 976 years and 2 days later is november 5th 3040. Which lines up a lot better in the story than 2.5 years earlier given aloys age.
We actually went to go down the same route. Using robots that would fuel themselves off of corpses but never went past the planning phase as everyone said "f*** no"
It took me months after watching the playthrough to work out the reason why the Gaia machines look like animals - Gaia grieved for the lost of the mega fauna so she brought them back in her own way. And that bit at the end when you realise that Gaia must have planted those flowers around her 'mothers' body in that triangle shape makes me cry every time.
I also remember a small piece of audio of Gaia and Elizabeth talking about giving some machines certain animal characteristics that would allow it to navigate terrain better.
No. That's not the reason. Earth eco system requires evolved flora and fauna, like they had before plague. So Gaya just recreated optimal configuration, like Earth had before the plague. Sadness or grief had nothing to do with it. After months watching it, you still got it wrong.
@@I_am_a_cat_ Someone people are trying to lead three/four lives at once. The only reason I could watch the play through was because I could multi-task it while doing my other (many) duties. Some of us have no choice but to live for the service of others.
@@DugeHick So I choose to believe that Gaia has a soul and the Elizabeth was successful in creating an AI that has compassion, how does that make me wrong?
This was a game that first introduced me to the concept of "created for good, improved for conflict". The first plane where man can fly was then used decades later for fast travel across country, to now an important part of conventional warfare, and drones unmaned in safety miles from the conflict, while easily causing destruction afar. It was an interesting lesson that taught me human viewpoints are so individually it would never be the same. Good or bad. Truly a game the inspired me in both reading lorecards in-game, and also the concept of human behavior
Technology wise... It is rather disappointing... For the mortal humans... So much potential... Yet dusted in the End... As usual... Makers of Worlds, do be merciful upon this dying star. Ha ha ha ha.
Literally what they said. Played the game back on release and thought it was ok but I recently did another play through on my ps5 and fell in love with this game! If you have a PlayStation I would highly recommend this masterpiece.
Then you are missing out on easily one of the greatest games in recent history. This game is so, SO good! Even if you don't have a PS4/5, it's currently also available on Steam for PC!
It's odd to think that Hades isn't the antagonist. It's simply doing what it was designed to do when activated. In its mind (algorithm) it sees that the world needs to be reset so Gaia can start over.
SPOILERS AHEAD: Theres a slight problem with that last part, he mocked Aloy for not finding Gaia Backup. He said, "Despite malfunctions I have won." He is doing what he was designed to do- true- but he doesn't want Gaia to create life ahain whoch is why saud said he needed to be destroyed. It was a threat. It would just continue to destroy life. It doesn't care about Gaia only the completion of his programed function. Destruction. That's all Hades thinks about. That's all it wants. Nothing more and nothing less. Plus its 'masters' instructed him to do it which cpuld have corrupted him far beyond reason. So it's insane to find out that Hades was only doing what he was designed to do. It wasn't doing it out of frustration or maliciousness like HEPHAESTUS'S advanced and corrupted code. He was doing it simply because he was designed to do that as you said. Now between whose the real villain it's either Hades 'masters' or HEPHAESTUS. And I'm leaning more towards the 'masters' because they sent to signal that woke the functions turning them into A.I's with increasingly chaotic nature. HEPHAESTUS is the problem she was talking about with the sustem functioning normally and then it will start to break down. Acting in a self destructive manner. That was HEPHAESTUS I believe, making the machines hostile and without something to keep it in check after it got into the Cauldron Network it's frustration grew with humanity destroying the very system keeping it alive. That it began with small things to deter them before creating more machines built for combat to protect the working ones. And changing some of the air and water purifying machines into aggressive machines towards humans. Point being: There were two A.I's we thought were the main antagonists but they really arent. The main antagonists are way different than we would have thought. The consciousness of the far Zenith colonies digitized and twisted from isolation and resentment fkr being abandoned. Making sure there was nowhere they could go to make a home. Deciding to make them suffer miserably in isolation for making them suffer miserably in isolation. Which is wild and amazing to watch unfold. They took the story away from Earth and expanded it a little bit. Thry really added insane depth to a seemingly basic story. Answering our questions and making us wonder what's gonna happen next P.s.: I'm not criticizing you or being mean I was just stating an opinion. You can disagree with people nowadays or point out something that mgiht be wrong without someone taking it as an attack or you being a bigot.
@@noctemluxarmiger No bruva, I don't think your harshly criticizing. I like the info you've given, its wonderful. You've made some good points. As much as Hades is the "vilian" as the story says ... Hephaestus is definitely the bigger pain in the ass. However, I'd argue that Hades is the bigger threat to humanity and every other subordinate function. Because if it succeeds Hephaestus won't even have the resources to create its machines. The world would be eaten bare. The other subordinate functions would'nt be able to complete their core programing, besides Minerva. Until Hades is done.
This is the darkest lore I have ever heard, I played the game and liked it but, by god is it dark. That’s saying something because I’m a big fan of 40k and that gets dark too.
Really cool! I haven't had the chance to play this myself but, from watching playthroughs, it's one of my favorite games and Aloy one of my favorite protagonists. Great lore vid, as usual, very detailed. Well played!
I mean not really skynet has some humanity in it it started the nuclear apocalypse to save itself from deactivation the farrow plague is completely devoid of humanity they lack self preservation all they do is eat and replicate there is no higher thought despite being incredibly advanced machines controlled by a hive mind but. They are completely focused on those two things nothing else
Skynet had the advantage of complete surprise, swift destruction of human infrastructure, and literal time travel... and still lost. The Faro Plague could barely be slowed down, and it wasn't even self-aware. Skynet wishes it was the Plague.
I know Faro was meant to be unlikeable but the moment he spouted on about knowledge being a disease to the alphas I wish I could have slapped him because it was never about who would come after. You Ted couldn't handle the idea that they would KNOW what you did you... oh the number of things I could call him is staggering. What happens to him is in my opinion not enough, there is nothing that would be enough to make up for the fact he doomed humanity TWICE. And I would argue the destruction of Apollo was far more destructive of the two. All of that suffering the tribes inflicted upon one another was his fault as he refused to let humanity learn from his mistake and blasted everything back to the stone age... gods I love this world's setting
@@MajinLordVegetasomehow FW gave me some emotional moments. When you get to see the "visions" at the Grove (the same that changed Hekarro from a conqueror to a peace-seeker), it really showed me how and why he changed. That scene was absolutely beautiful.
@@soleilfray6397 absolutely. Forbidden West is almost a Zero Dawn DLC. It helps expand the lore and is much better in mechanics and overall gameplay, but can't come even close to the first game.
One quote I'll never forget is when Elisabet revealed the zero dawn plan to Ted Faro and he said: - Jesus Liz, when I asked for a solution I didn't expect it to be worse than the problem. Let's hope biomass conversion of that scale never becomes a reality.
See, this is why when making fully automated military hardware, you don't go with black quartz, you have to choose either a high amount of sophisticated firewalls or forego physical hardpoints.
Instead of simply burying the deactivated Faro robots, why didn’t Gaia’s robots deliberately dismantle them wherever they found them to ensure they could never do harm again? If nothing else the metal could be used to expand the terraforming system. further.
@@rdc4461You'd basically be re-inventing the wheel, to find effective ecocidal robots. I'm sure a few of them did degrade over time, but the basic design is fairly good.
It did devolve because it lost all knowledge of what made it that advanced civilisation. Yes we are still somewhat tribal, but in terms of achievements they went backwards and had to start from scratch essentially devolving.
Such a great story this is. Alloy/Sobeck are terrific heroes. Ted Faro is a terrific villain, as can't help but hate his guts!!! lol. I wish he had survived just so we could end him for good.
It might be my favorite apocalypse in gaming...it's a lot like the apocalypse in The Matrix but if they (the writers) never had to justify the existence of the matrix
when Aloy first enters the Faro tower in Maker's End, the AI said that dr sobeck is late for 355,510 number of days for the meeting with ted. This amounts to about 974 years. so yeah, about 1000 years went by
i love the fact i could explain everything covered in this video in about seven minutes. i love Horizon and im purely watching this because new game hype. just dont watch this if you havent played the game the whole thing with the Farro plague is half of what gets you invested into playing Zero Dawn because the reveal to everything that created the world Zero Dawn takes place in is what draws you in and its so good
You’re always free to make your own shorter version. I appreciate the view though. Thought I’d make it longer than 7 mins to get all the information out there tho
@@WiseFish oh dude I have no complaints about the length at all it's great in my opinion I just love Horizons lore and having taken the time to play it. Im not trying to sound like I'm complaining about your content because I'm not I really enjoy your content I just enjoy not being the only person to enjoy this game considering how many people I've met and know who have never played the game before and won't get into it because the reason behind the machines existence isn't immediately explained I just enjoy someone who knows the lore the same way I do and who wasn't turned off by the game just because the answers weren't spoonfed to them
There's a data point that tells us that nuclear strikes would actually destroy a local swarm. But the numbers were so great that instead of eating the earth in 15 months, there would be global nuclear wasteland in 2 weeks. Nuclear option was only viable when Ted himself discovered the glitch. Because when the US robot command comes to know of it, it was just too late for any nuclear strikes.
@@SkyborneSoulit did, but the problem was the rogue swarm could have also been living in cyberspace, not just a physical location. The Metal Devils were smart enough to use cyberwarfare, they would have to simultaneously destroy the entire internet as well as the physical bodies of the rogue swarm to ensure it couldn't spread. Ted's arrogance wouldn't have let that happen though.
technically speaking I don't think they ever truly figured out if it was a glitch or not. One day a swarm just stopped responding to commands and their ability to fuel themselves by any means other than biomass shut down. So the possibility of it being sabotage is up in the air.
I read a comment on another video that said that "licence check failure" can be the reason. As seen in the presentation of the Horus unit it is said that a small licensing fee is needed for the client to produce more units. So it can be said that licence check failure along with determining all biologicals as hostiles will get the AI that was designed to learn from it's enemies to win no matter what to turn on life itself.
I like to think that the Hartz-Timor-Swarm somehow found too much dirt on how deeply Ted Faro/FAS was influential with humanity. Selling all Chariot-units to Hartz and other opposing companies and making them hate each other. So, as war robots that are programmed to win Wars, their cold machine intelligence deemed it viable to wipe out everything.
@@absolstoryoffiction6615 completely useless if you can’t build a mobile uranium refinery and nuclear fuel rod production facility, or miniaturize a fission reactor to be about the size of a car engine, which even the Old Ones couldn’t.
@@brilobox2 True, but time waits for no one. The Sun will bathe the Earth in fire and frost before any humans "survive". So much for Green Energy when the Finality is still the same. Just to buy 3,000+ more years yet to amount to Zero... ... ... A waste of three millenniums.
I hope we never see Operation Enduring Victory. I certainly hope we don't get a prequel there. I honestly think it would be underwhelming. Horror is most effective when you don't know everything. Monsters are scary when they're a shape in the shadows. Letting us imagine a lot of it means we come up with the things that are scariest to us. It's much more effective than showing us what happened.
Nemesis sent the extinction signal to hades around aloys birth to make earth uninhabitable by far zenith. But hades was defeated by aloy. The extinction “the faro plauge” was created by a glitch in a swarm of robots in Australia that spread out eventually wiping out humanity.
Nice video, but some presenter’s liberties were taken. Any chance of just a compilation of the focus lore being displayed and then just making a montage that explains the story itself? I remember playing the game and thought Aloy discovering the history of the fall to be very interesting.
I am still not sure how they managed to cross any oceans, their design does not appear to be very seaworthy And walking along the seafloor seems unlikely since the massive pressure and saltwater are a deadly combination As advanced as the faro bots were, i highly doubt they could survive the salinity and water pressure in a average depth of several hundred meters
Who knows tho they could repair themselves with nanotechnology so it's possible the gaint horus class also carried the smaller mechanics so that could be too
@Hatzi89 we don't know if it can or can't it was never stated in game so for all we know it could it is the future after all the technology in horizon seems league's ahead of ours current day so who know but I get where your coming from
You're forgetting about the Metal Devils, they're super intelligent AIs that learn, which includes making new designs to overcome obstacles like oceans, such as building boats or planes.
In some future I hope to make a crossover fanfic between Horizon and Warframe, and this is how: Another group of Alphas alongside a couple of civilians, mange to escape the planet in a spaceship named The Tenno, taking a copy of Apollo with them. The ship would drift through space until they accidentally enter a system named The Void, where the passengers of The Tenno would discover a giant yet benevolent organism in the form of a giant lotus flower, The Lotus. This organism would telepathically tell the passengers of The Lotus that, it would not just offer them salvation but evolution. The passengers of The Tenno without nothing left to loose threw their gamble an accepted. The passengers of The Tenno would be sealed in cocoons, for a year of sorts. True to her words the passengers would come out of their cocoons, not only enhanced but changed, becoming a new race, naming themselves after the ship that brought them to The Void. With the help of The Lotus, The Tennos where able to create symbiotic suits name Warframes enhancing The Tennos new found capabilities even further becoming literal Demi-Gods, a far cry from Far Zenith. Throughout the centuries The Tenno would go through many adventures, helping anyone in need, and fighting alien war mongers like the Granieer, and evil alien corporations like Corpus that would often make deals with Far Zenith. Centuries would pass The Tenno would be ready to return to Earth with several copies of The Apollo Archives they copied throughout the centuries ready to help Alloy and her friends defeated Far Zenith once and for all, so Humanity can fully be restored. 😜
What I never understood was how the glitch caused the faro robots to figure out how to hack other faro robots even though it should be nearly impossible to do so. This all should have ended with Faro robots being sent in to destroy the swarm from a distance beyond their ability to “infect” them with the frankly unreasonable super hacking method.
Yeah. I know this will never happen, but instead of being glitch. I like to think that the Hartz-Timor-Swarm that eventually became known as the Faro Plague found too much dirt on how influential Ted is synonymous with humanity. As war-robots that are programmed to win "wars," their cold machine programing deemed it necessary to now answer to themselves to wipe out all organic life.
This narration would have been perfect but the fact that you skipped the story of the time it took for MINERVA one of GAIA's sub function to crack the code and shutdown the FARO Swarm which was which took around 300 Years to crack.
ok hear me out, nothing went wrong. perhaps the alpha's or even faro knew that the only way to beat Gaia was to make Hade's fully independent AND strip Gaia of he other sub routines after all Hade's only attempted to seize control of the terraforming systems it was Gaia who destroyed the facility.
@@pascalheinrich3990 Alloy afaik is the only clone, everyone else from the cradles are not clones they where preserved as zygotes and "deployed" when GAIA finished the terraforming. In fact there's the whole in game lore about the lightkeeper protocol, the only stored DNA was of the Alphas and it was kept to make more of them so they could keep working on the project if needed.
You really should do Killzone and specially Resistance lore Sony had the great ability of creating interesting worlds and stories and fucking up in the gameplay
People like all the Resistance games gameplay even during it’s time. People loved the unique weapons and their abilities, along with having traditional health packs. The gameplay didn’t translate well to a multiplayer aspect like COD and Battlefield did at the time, but it still was a fun game gameplay wise.
Hope you guys all enjoyed this video and are as excited for Forbidden West as I am!
Makes me sad I dont have a ps5 the game looks absolutely breathtaking.
so excited for it omg
Bought the first game because of this video
@@timyuusis3372 you will not regret it one of the best single player experiences of the past decade and the company that makes horizon is the same company that used to make the Red Faction games
Playing through the 1st 1 now
Something I love about horizon is that you can clearly tell which machines and facilities were designed by humans and which ones were made by the AI systems. All of the AI designed facilities and machines have an organic feel to them while you can clearly see the human footprint on the other ones. I love that so much!
Agreed, the feeling you get when going through a cauldron really evokes the same vibe as Neo going into the machine city. Completely alien and unfathomably advanced. Cold and efficient, unrecognizable yet familiar.. one big metal organism.
I still remember encountering the data log that said something about one of the Metal Devil's consuming a pod of endangered dolphins. I took a look at that and thought, "Faro... How did you ever think this was a good ideal?"
Near the Tiwi Islands of the Northern Territory of Australia? Small little place, but I live near there...great imagination on behalf of the game creators!
A prequel would be epic! Horizon: Enduring Victory. I can only imagine the horrors of the war.
A prequel would be unnecessary imo. The mysteriousness of Zero Dawn and unraveling the world through holograms and data points are much more intriguing and epic than actually seeing it in motion.
And I doubt the game would be interesting with Aloy not being made yet. How would the game even function? Or would we just be Elisabet and watch the world descend into chaos? I’m genuinely asking now since I’ve often seen people talk about a potential prequel before the events. It just doesn’t make that much sense.
@@MalachiPlaysGames It can be possible on a screenwriter’s perspective. Just my thoughts though, there are lots of ways to introduce past chronological events on a current time setting.
@@kcmtalaboc I definitely think it could be good but how would gameplay work? What exactly would us players do?
@@MalachiPlaysGames maybe it’s just a bunch of unique characters. perhaps a general in the military fighting and you see the war raging, then it goes to a researcher for apollo etc it can be tons of character but doesn’t need to be canon
Well the studio that made this game also made the killzone franchise just think its that
This made me realize that faro saying to Sobeks memorial "so now youre a hero and a martyr" or something like that, and thats all he says... he was jealous. He would be remembered as the villain, and her, the hero. When i played the game, i thought he actually meant what he said, about our history being a plague... but in reality he just didnt want anyone to remember HIS plague.
YES! I literally just played through that part and those were my thoughts exactly. After he did what he did to Apollo, it was too clear. He was a s*** human.
"And now that we have a chance to secure the future of earth, he's shitting himself because he's afraid that history books won't be flattering enough"
- Sadavir Errinwright, The Expanse.
This is why you can't let CEOs run the world. Because they'll always think about themselves and their legacy before they think about everybody else.
The Faro Plague has always been terrifying for me.
It’s terrifying for everyone. An unstoppable planetary extinction. Literally no chance whatsoever to survive. Only a chance to bring life back after.
The year is 3038. Aloy finds out when she enters Ted Faro's office and Faro's computer system tells "Dr. Sobek" that she is 355510 days (973 years, 122 days) late for her meeting with Ted Faro, supposedly to have happened on October 31, 2064. This means that the day Aloy steps into the ruin of Ted's office, the date is March 2, 3038.
K? I don't think we need to know the exact day it took place lmao. All that matters is that it's almost 1000 years in the future.
@ArkunusStilshireHistory is such an odd thing.
The last battle of the samurai was when Abraham Lincoln was President of the US.
There was a period of over a decade when samurai mercenaries fighting in South America could have received a fax message from Abraham Lincoln.
Lots of things we think of as being far apart happened in a very short timespan.
And conversely, some things were further away than we think - Cleopatra was born closer to the building of the first McDonalds than the building of the last pyramid.
@@Pro_Butcher_Amateur_Humanif I weren’t so lazy I would be fact checking all of this
@@I_am_a_cat_but it is interesting to know specifics if only very minor
No. She showed up for those meetings. The one she didnt show up in person for is the one where she calls from the VTOL enroute to USRC on november 3rd 2064. 976 years and 2 days later is november 5th 3040. Which lines up a lot better in the story than 2.5 years earlier given aloys age.
We actually went to go down the same route. Using robots that would fuel themselves off of corpses but never went past the planning phase as everyone said "f*** no"
Don’t blame them that’s asking for trouble!
@@WiseFish do you want the terminator to rise or nation 01 enslave us
@@danielmartires5121 don't forget the faro plague eating us
Just nuke all areas where faro robots are hiding and shoot up all smaller places then clean up the edges keep doing it until extinct
@@comandercarnis Or the Cylons nuking us. Or the Geth driving us off world.
It took me months after watching the playthrough to work out the reason why the Gaia machines look like animals - Gaia grieved for the lost of the mega fauna so she brought them back in her own way. And that bit at the end when you realise that Gaia must have planted those flowers around her 'mothers' body in that triangle shape makes me cry every time.
I also remember a small piece of audio of Gaia and Elizabeth talking about giving some machines certain animal characteristics that would allow it to navigate terrain better.
Ewwwww you watched a playthrough instead of just... playing it? Gross.
No. That's not the reason. Earth eco system requires evolved flora and fauna, like they had before plague. So Gaya just recreated optimal configuration, like Earth had before the plague. Sadness or grief had nothing to do with it. After months watching it, you still got it wrong.
@@I_am_a_cat_ Someone people are trying to lead three/four lives at once. The only reason I could watch the play through was because I could multi-task it while doing my other (many) duties. Some of us have no choice but to live for the service of others.
@@DugeHick So I choose to believe that Gaia has a soul and the Elizabeth was successful in creating an AI that has compassion, how does that make me wrong?
A self-replicating, unhackable swarm of machines that feed on biomass? What could go wrong?
Against the Dark Precursors... This is childs play, mortal.
Humans are their own demise... A fate "we" knew long ago.
Plenty of new loyal friends to hang and eat all kinds of flavors of delicacies with.
HZD is the first game I've ever played that left me up thinking at night about robots, humanity, and just... everything.
The ending was so bitter sweet to. All the end of the world robot movies and it was this game to make me wish we never developed ai as we have it now.
@@davidhujik3422
Amusing... For a mortal... Failures of Creation... An entire cosmic iteration who shall never stand before Origin.
This was a game that first introduced me to the concept of "created for good, improved for conflict". The first plane where man can fly was then used decades later for fast travel across country, to now an important part of conventional warfare, and drones unmaned in safety miles from the conflict, while easily causing destruction afar.
It was an interesting lesson that taught me human viewpoints are so individually it would never be the same. Good or bad. Truly a game the inspired me in both reading lorecards in-game, and also the concept of human behavior
Technology wise... It is rather disappointing... For the mortal humans... So much potential... Yet dusted in the End... As usual...
Makers of Worlds, do be merciful upon this dying star. Ha ha ha ha.
Never played it but always up for quality lore.
You're missing the greatest game in decades
You need to play
Literally what they said. Played the game back on release and thought it was ok but I recently did another play through on my ps5 and fell in love with this game! If you have a PlayStation I would highly recommend this masterpiece.
Some tell the stories better than others. This guy is one of the "some" and not the "others."
Then you are missing out on easily one of the greatest games in recent history. This game is so, SO good! Even if you don't have a PS4/5, it's currently also available on Steam for PC!
I think this is the only lore that has humanity completely annihilated and extinct, let alone the whole planet.
So far...
This game lore is not the only one tho, as there are other games like Ultrakill did have different lore about humanity's extinction
Not completely, the psychopaths on the Odyssey got to walk away.
i love the lore in this game, completed it for the first time this january
I'll take 'Make more un-hackable robots to fight the hacking robots' for $200, Jim.
It's odd to think that Hades isn't the antagonist. It's simply doing what it was designed to do when activated. In its mind (algorithm) it sees that the world needs to be reset so Gaia can start over.
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Theres a slight problem with that last part, he mocked Aloy for not finding Gaia Backup. He said, "Despite malfunctions I have won." He is doing what he was designed to do- true- but he doesn't want Gaia to create life ahain whoch is why saud said he needed to be destroyed. It was a threat. It would just continue to destroy life. It doesn't care about Gaia only the completion of his programed function. Destruction. That's all Hades thinks about. That's all it wants. Nothing more and nothing less. Plus its 'masters' instructed him to do it which cpuld have corrupted him far beyond reason. So it's insane to find out that Hades was only doing what he was designed to do. It wasn't doing it out of frustration or maliciousness like HEPHAESTUS'S advanced and corrupted code. He was doing it simply because he was designed to do that as you said. Now between whose the real villain it's either Hades 'masters' or HEPHAESTUS. And I'm leaning more towards the 'masters' because they sent to signal that woke the functions turning them into A.I's with increasingly chaotic nature. HEPHAESTUS is the problem she was talking about with the sustem functioning normally and then it will start to break down. Acting in a self destructive manner. That was HEPHAESTUS I believe, making the machines hostile and without something to keep it in check after it got into the Cauldron Network it's frustration grew with humanity destroying the very system keeping it alive. That it began with small things to deter them before creating more machines built for combat to protect the working ones. And changing some of the air and water purifying machines into aggressive machines towards humans. Point being: There were two A.I's we thought were the main antagonists but they really arent. The main antagonists are way different than we would have thought. The consciousness of the far Zenith colonies digitized and twisted from isolation and resentment fkr being abandoned. Making sure there was nowhere they could go to make a home. Deciding to make them suffer miserably in isolation for making them suffer miserably in isolation. Which is wild and amazing to watch unfold. They took the story away from Earth and expanded it a little bit. Thry really added insane depth to a seemingly basic story. Answering our questions and making us wonder what's gonna happen next
P.s.: I'm not criticizing you or being mean I was just stating an opinion. You can disagree with people nowadays or point out something that mgiht be wrong without someone taking it as an attack or you being a bigot.
@@noctemluxarmiger No bruva, I don't think your harshly criticizing. I like the info you've given, its wonderful.
You've made some good points. As much as Hades is the "vilian" as the story says ... Hephaestus is definitely the bigger pain in the ass.
However, I'd argue that Hades is the bigger threat to humanity and every other subordinate function. Because if it succeeds Hephaestus won't even have the resources to create its machines. The world would be eaten bare. The other subordinate functions would'nt be able to complete their core programing, besides Minerva.
Until Hades is done.
It is a massive flaw in the entire zero dawn system that hades did not automatically delete itself when the humans were released
still an antagonist, just not a villain
This is the darkest lore I have ever heard, I played the game and liked it but, by god is it dark. That’s saying something because I’m a big fan of 40k and that gets dark too.
Woohoo! Glad we're getting more lore for this game in time for Forbidden West 😉
Really cool! I haven't had the chance to play this myself but, from watching playthroughs, it's one of my favorite games and Aloy one of my favorite protagonists. Great lore vid, as usual, very detailed. Well played!
Scares me more than Skynet.
This is basically Skynet, but without the nukes.
I mean not really skynet has some humanity in it it started the nuclear apocalypse to save itself from deactivation the farrow plague is completely devoid of humanity they lack self preservation all they do is eat and replicate there is no higher thought despite being incredibly advanced machines controlled by a hive mind but. They are completely focused on those two things nothing else
Skynet had the advantage of complete surprise, swift destruction of human infrastructure, and literal time travel... and still lost. The Faro Plague could barely be slowed down, and it wasn't even self-aware.
Skynet wishes it was the Plague.
I know Faro was meant to be unlikeable but the moment he spouted on about knowledge being a disease to the alphas I wish I could have slapped him because it was never about who would come after. You Ted couldn't handle the idea that they would KNOW what you did you... oh the number of things I could call him is staggering. What happens to him is in my opinion not enough, there is nothing that would be enough to make up for the fact he doomed humanity TWICE. And I would argue the destruction of Apollo was far more destructive of the two. All of that suffering the tribes inflicted upon one another was his fault as he refused to let humanity learn from his mistake and blasted everything back to the stone age... gods I love this world's setting
Ted Faro was fucking despicable!
One of my favorite RUclips channels discussing 1 of my favorite video game franchises talking about a good match right there
Best story driven game ever made....and Forbidden West is equally great
Forbidden West isn’t as good as this imo. Not bad but going thru this story in this game is unmatched.
@@MajinLordVegetasomehow FW gave me some emotional moments. When you get to see the "visions" at the Grove (the same that changed Hekarro from a conqueror to a peace-seeker), it really showed me how and why he changed. That scene was absolutely beautiful.
Forbidden West is good but nowhere near as brilliant as Zero Dawn. They dropped the ball in terms of story imo.
@@soleilfray6397 absolutely. Forbidden West is almost a Zero Dawn DLC. It helps expand the lore and is much better in mechanics and overall gameplay, but can't come even close to the first game.
"So.. I have a way to fix this problem."
"The only way to fix a zany scheme, is to do an even zanier scheme." - Homer Simpson
I am so smart! Smrt!
Thanks my guy! I just got home from the hospital and need some good listening. You've done it again!
One quote I'll never forget is when Elisabet revealed the zero dawn plan to Ted Faro and he said:
- Jesus Liz, when I asked for a solution I didn't expect it to be worse than the problem.
Let's hope biomass conversion of that scale never becomes a reality.
This is still my favourite apocolypse scenario as I can see it happening. Probably not in my life but eventually.
See, this is why when making fully automated military hardware, you don't go with black quartz, you have to choose either a high amount of sophisticated firewalls or forego physical hardpoints.
Havent played the game myself been meaning to, but great video
Phone rings every 5 minutes.
Faro: Whatcha doing?
Tate: LIZ!
Not going to lie, didn't like the game too much when I was playing on ps4, but god the lore was keeping me in and this is so refreshing to watch.
@@lunarfanaccount2229 you are a heretic then. Not liking this game is a fucking capital sin.
Instead of simply burying the deactivated Faro robots, why didn’t Gaia’s robots deliberately dismantle them wherever they found them to ensure they could never do harm again? If nothing else the metal could be used to expand the terraforming system. further.
If Gaia needed to reset the world again, those Faro robots are quite effective at it.
It is revealed that Hades wiped the reconstituted biosphere 3 times in the past, as they were not viable.. Using the Faro machines.
@@toddkes5890wouldn’t it have been better to use Hephaestus robots instead?
@@rdc4461You'd basically be re-inventing the wheel, to find effective ecocidal robots. I'm sure a few of them did degrade over time, but the basic design is fairly good.
@@toddkes5890 No? Hades is the one that resets the world and does so via terraforming. You don't need combat robots to terraform a dead planet.
This deserves more likes. Well done!
First game I've ever played that had me this invested in the lore and the world and such!
Humanity didn't "devolve into tribal societies".
Even now we are tribalists, despite all our "achievements" and "advancements".
It did devolve because it lost all knowledge of what made it that advanced civilisation. Yes we are still somewhat tribal, but in terms of achievements they went backwards and had to start from scratch essentially devolving.
@@WiseFish oh, I see what you're trying to convey. 👌
Wow this was a beautiful short conversation where no one argued I can’t believe I stumbled on this gem
The did such a good job at making you feel their hopelessness and their hopefulness at the same time
i love that Wow Such Gaming supports you thats amazing considering i subbed to him too
Such a great story this is. Alloy/Sobeck are terrific heroes. Ted Faro is a terrific villain, as can't help but hate his guts!!! lol. I wish he had survived just so we could end him for good.
Looking forward to the game, any ideas of where to lore can go from here?
New WiseFish video 👀
It might be my favorite apocalypse in gaming...it's a lot like the apocalypse in The Matrix but if they (the writers) never had to justify the existence of the matrix
a dlc "Enduring Victory" please.
No.
@@robertotrevino9125 Why not?
Project zero dawn. Hey that’s the name of the game, cool.😺
Horizon's AI's make Skynet look like nothing.
The Faro Swarm wasn’t even directed by a true AI, just a highly advanced machine learning algorithm.
reminds me of the grey goo scenario
I hate Ted so much 😂😂😂 I've never been so angry at a fictional character 😂
fun fact but Zero Dawn takes place 1000 years after the destruction of the species due to the Faro plague
No it’s under 1000. HZD is set in 3021. Faro plague was 21st century
I remember the Games lore confirming 2000 years after but that might have been a mistake on my part 😅
@@aaroniscool7521 new game confirms 1000 years but it’s all good dude. You had me worried that’s all lol
@@WiseFish this kind of community engagement I like to see so I appreciate the time you take to respond
when Aloy first enters the Faro tower in Maker's End, the AI said that dr sobeck is late for 355,510 number of days for the meeting with ted. This amounts to about 974 years. so yeah, about 1000 years went by
i love the fact i could explain everything covered in this video in about seven minutes. i love Horizon and im purely watching this because new game hype. just dont watch this if you havent played the game the whole thing with the Farro plague is half of what gets you invested into playing Zero Dawn because the reveal to everything that created the world Zero Dawn takes place in is what draws you in and its so good
You’re always free to make your own shorter version. I appreciate the view though. Thought I’d make it longer than 7 mins to get all the information out there tho
@@WiseFish oh dude I have no complaints about the length at all it's great in my opinion I just love Horizons lore and having taken the time to play it. Im not trying to sound like I'm complaining about your content because I'm not I really enjoy your content I just enjoy not being the only person to enjoy this game considering how many people I've met and know who have never played the game before and won't get into it because the reason behind the machines existence isn't immediately explained I just enjoy someone who knows the lore the same way I do and who wasn't turned off by the game just because the answers weren't spoonfed to them
A tactical or larger nuclear strike at the start of the swarm would have killed the independent swarm.... :P
They were in all countries so that would have been difficult to manage haha
@@WiseFish Well... shit. 😂
There's a data point that tells us that nuclear strikes would actually destroy a local swarm. But the numbers were so great that instead of eating the earth in 15 months, there would be global nuclear wasteland in 2 weeks. Nuclear option was only viable when Ted himself discovered the glitch. Because when the US robot command comes to know of it, it was just too late for any nuclear strikes.
@@WiseFish i thought it had a starting point? Timor sea i believe.
@@SkyborneSoulit did, but the problem was the rogue swarm could have also been living in cyberspace, not just a physical location. The Metal Devils were smart enough to use cyberwarfare, they would have to simultaneously destroy the entire internet as well as the physical bodies of the rogue swarm to ensure it couldn't spread. Ted's arrogance wouldn't have let that happen though.
Will the glitch ever actually be explained?
technically speaking I don't think they ever truly figured out if it was a glitch or not. One day a swarm just stopped responding to commands and their ability to fuel themselves by any means other than biomass shut down. So the possibility of it being sabotage is up in the air.
I read a comment on another video that said that "licence check failure" can be the reason. As seen in the presentation of the Horus unit it is said that a small licensing fee is needed for the client to produce more units. So it can be said that licence check failure along with determining all biologicals as hostiles will get the AI that was designed to learn from it's enemies to win no matter what to turn on life itself.
@@omkarpandit357 It never designated all biologicals as hostiles. It simply saw everything as a fuel source, rather than an enemy.
I like to think that the Hartz-Timor-Swarm somehow found too much dirt on how deeply Ted Faro/FAS was influential with humanity. Selling all Chariot-units to Hartz and other opposing companies and making them hate each other. So, as war robots that are programmed to win Wars, their cold machine intelligence deemed it viable to wipe out everything.
Straight away, the man himself.
Very cool apocalyptic game..will make a great tv series or a movie..
I keep wondering, why create machines that consumes biomass as fuel? Did Ted Faro not heard of solar power?
Energy density and time to convert biofuel to produce more units. Solar energy is abundant but not as energy dense as biomass itself.
Biomass???... The Atom cries in such a weak state of atomic mastery.
@@omkarpandit357
Atomic Energy is much better. It is all and all is it.
@@absolstoryoffiction6615 completely useless if you can’t build a mobile uranium refinery and nuclear fuel rod production facility, or miniaturize a fission reactor to be about the size of a car engine, which even the Old Ones couldn’t.
@@brilobox2
True, but time waits for no one. The Sun will bathe the Earth in fire and frost before any humans "survive".
So much for Green Energy when the Finality is still the same.
Just to buy 3,000+ more years yet to amount to Zero... ... ... A waste of three millenniums.
I hope we never see Operation Enduring Victory. I certainly hope we don't get a prequel there.
I honestly think it would be underwhelming. Horror is most effective when you don't know everything. Monsters are scary when they're a shape in the shadows.
Letting us imagine a lot of it means we come up with the things that are scariest to us. It's much more effective than showing us what happened.
It says he became a monster. He is nemesis.
Sweet. Thank You
Did Nemesis cause the plague that sent the extinction signal?
Nemesis sent the extinction signal to hades around aloys birth to make earth uninhabitable by far zenith. But hades was defeated by aloy.
The extinction “the faro plauge” was created by a glitch in a swarm of robots in Australia that spread out eventually wiping out humanity.
Elizabeth Sobeck had a good heart ❤️
Like Travis Tate said, God bless her.
Nice video, but some presenter’s liberties were taken.
Any chance of just a compilation of the focus lore being displayed and then just making a montage that explains the story itself?
I remember playing the game and thought Aloy discovering the history of the fall to be very interesting.
I am still not sure how they managed to cross any oceans, their design does not appear to be very seaworthy
And walking along the seafloor seems unlikely since the massive pressure and saltwater are a deadly combination
As advanced as the faro bots were, i highly doubt they could survive the salinity and water pressure in a average depth of several hundred meters
Who knows tho they could repair themselves with nanotechnology so it's possible the gaint horus class also carried the smaller mechanics so that could be too
@@UmbreonMoonlight not even a horus class could stand up to that kind of water pressure
@Hatzi89 we don't know if it can or can't it was never stated in game so for all we know it could it is the future after all the technology in horizon seems league's ahead of ours current day so who know but I get where your coming from
They didnt have to go across water. They chariot robots were already everywhere.
The glitch spread. Not the robots. They were already global.
You're forgetting about the Metal Devils, they're super intelligent AIs that learn, which includes making new designs to overcome obstacles like oceans, such as building boats or planes.
In some future I hope to make a crossover fanfic between Horizon and Warframe, and this is how:
Another group of Alphas alongside a couple of civilians, mange to escape the planet in a spaceship named The Tenno, taking a copy of Apollo with them. The ship would drift through space until they accidentally enter a system named The Void, where the passengers of The Tenno would discover a giant yet benevolent organism in the form of a giant lotus flower, The Lotus. This organism would telepathically tell the passengers of The Lotus that, it would not just offer them salvation but evolution. The passengers of The Tenno without nothing left to loose threw their gamble an accepted. The passengers of The Tenno would be sealed in cocoons, for a year of sorts. True to her words the passengers would come out of their cocoons, not only enhanced but changed, becoming a new race, naming themselves after the ship that brought them to The Void. With the help of The Lotus, The Tennos where able to create symbiotic suits name Warframes enhancing The Tennos new found capabilities even further becoming literal Demi-Gods, a far cry from Far Zenith. Throughout the centuries The Tenno would go through many adventures, helping anyone in need, and fighting alien war mongers like the Granieer, and evil alien corporations like Corpus that would often make deals with Far Zenith. Centuries would pass The Tenno would be ready to return to Earth with several copies of The Apollo Archives they copied throughout the centuries ready to help Alloy and her friends defeated Far Zenith once and for all, so Humanity can fully be restored. 😜
What I never understood was how the glitch caused the faro robots to figure out how to hack other faro robots even though it should be nearly impossible to do so. This all should have ended with Faro robots being sent in to destroy the swarm from a distance beyond their ability to “infect” them with the frankly unreasonable super hacking method.
Yeah. I know this will never happen, but instead of being glitch. I like to think that the Hartz-Timor-Swarm that eventually became known as the Faro Plague found too much dirt on how influential Ted is synonymous with humanity. As war-robots that are programmed to win "wars," their cold machine programing deemed it necessary to now answer to themselves to wipe out all organic life.
Right off the bat, the rustic Nora tribe.
This narration would have been perfect but the fact that you skipped the story of the time it took for MINERVA one of GAIA's sub function to crack the code and shutdown the FARO Swarm which was which took around 300 Years to crack.
It took 50 years.
Ted Faro is one of the greatest villains in modern media
This video is best for understanding the game out of all the videos i've seen so far
8:53 where does that city clip come from?
ok hear me out, nothing went wrong.
perhaps the alpha's or even faro knew that the only way to beat Gaia was to make Hade's fully independent AND strip Gaia of he other sub routines after all Hade's only attempted to seize control of the terraforming systems it was Gaia who destroyed the facility.
Ted Faro instantly became the most hated video game character out there in 2017.
What's the origin of the 4 tribes. That always buffles me
Some sort of cloning facilitys containing a diverse Range of human DNA like that one Aloy came from and probably all Nora tribe members
@@pascalheinrich3990 Alloy afaik is the only clone, everyone else from the cradles are not clones they where preserved as zygotes and "deployed" when GAIA finished the terraforming. In fact there's the whole in game lore about the lightkeeper protocol, the only stored DNA was of the Alphas and it was kept to make more of them so they could keep working on the project if needed.
Ted Faro aka Ellon Musk. An egomaniac jrk that seems to be doing good but can go 180 on a whim.
You really should do Killzone and specially Resistance lore
Sony had the great ability of creating interesting worlds and stories and fucking up in the gameplay
People like all the Resistance games gameplay even during it’s time. People loved the unique weapons and their abilities, along with having traditional health packs. The gameplay didn’t translate well to a multiplayer aspect like COD and Battlefield did at the time, but it still was a fun game gameplay wise.
You made your thumbnail look like Roanoke, but im glad i found you. Dont do that though. Its dishonest, and you have talent
This is true open world game.
Almost a millennium later, not a century
I just stumbled across this by chance. lmao
Finally ❤😍😍
he's just reading the wiki pages
So powerful that nukes can't stop it
the AI/COM-VS. *(**06:29**).*
Game looks good, the idea is great.
But the gameplay feels like it had 6 year old in mind. Wayyyy to much handholding
Humans and there pride
Bruh 2 hours ago
Faro ruined the world not once but twice. Dafuq
16:18 millennia not century.
loved the game but after story nothing much to do
a more Primitive (not too similarly a bit) alternative version of SIV-
Horizon Zero Dawn is the best feminist story there is.