Most tasteful drummer EVER!!! Those toms and bassdrum......whoa!!!! When I listen to today's drummer playing on what sounds like plastic lids, I want to throw up. I saw this guy and other KC drummers in late 60s and early seventies. ...all were great. In wake of Posiedon, the drums are beyond great. What a treat......Thank you!!!!!!!
Pretty easily doable on a single with a toe-slide, heel toe or heel roll technique. Sorry for being a smartass but you don't need a double to learn this song so go get em!!
@@22z83Def not easy with a single pedal, especially with that kinda hard hitting. I've been playing drums for... 20 years, Jesus. I've played this song many times, never even knew there was a little double bass.
@@aakkoin it's forsure not "easy" by any metric. I guess I should have said: easily doable on a single pedal for an expert drummer. 14 years on drums here
His note for note SYNCHING with that band where, like fusion Jazz, every stroke on his snare was in synch with a note on the lead instrument was INSANE!! That is so hard to do and concentrate on! He has that sound of PERFECTION with every single stroke. I was starting out on drums at that time, and I thought I would $hit a brick. I appreciate it far more than ever now! ~ And thank you kiboko. HOW did you do this??
@@TheGyroBarqusShow Yes and no. He left, but he was hired back as a session musician for the album as was Pete Giles. I think Lake had also agreed to join ELP, but stayed to finish the record for Fripp as well.
If one didn't know any better and u asked them what yr they thought this was recorded, I guarantee the person u asked would answer recent within the last decade or 2 and this is as old as me and I'm 50. Amazing articulation and cleanliness of both player and engineer.
king crimson they mix the cymbals real low in volume, cymbals actually are deafening loud, much louder than the drums if you are standibg in the same room
depends how you play them, if you're really good at controlling your wrist and finger movements you could minimise the amount of volume the cymbals produce but yeah this is definitely a mixing effort
Gavin Harrison, Pat Mastelotto and Jeremy Stacey are very good drummers but even together they can't even come close to Mike Giles or Bill Bruford's magic.
It doesn't really matter though. They are doing a triple drum interpretation, not trying to copy note by note. It's actually much more difficult for the three drummers lineup because they have to be careful not to get in each other's way.
in other words, Mike Giles and Bill Bruford are very good drummers, but even together they cant even come close to Gavin harrison, Pat Mastelotto and Jeremy Stacy's magic😏
@@progrockpondscum2764 In other words, Gavin harrison, Pat mastolleto, Jeremy Stacey, Michael Giles and Bill Bruford are all very good drummers and they are all magic
I was looking for KC live performance with Michael Giles when I found this. Stunning. And I am still looking for live footage of the first King Crimson. Any ideas?
Only one video footage, actually. "Cat Food" when they were live in Belgium. You can see Giles and Lake still a member. KC wasn't very well documented in 69-70. Although there are some photos of Giles playing drums for Early KC.
For videos of KC Mk I, there’s not much. There’s a heavily edited-together version of ‘Schizoid Man’ made up of probably a minute and a half of actual video footage from the Hyde Park concert, and a mostly-mimed ‘Cat Food’ from a TV promo performance that’s pretty funny. Of course there’s more live audio from the period, starting with the ‘Epitaph’ set, which is really great, and a full recording from the Hyde Park concert, which was their big stage debut.
Search KC channel on RUclips for the Morgan Studios version of this track. It's a mash-up of a an old recording of Giles' playing with JJ on vocals. Sublime.
FUNNY you mentioned that! In about 1973, (?) I took a vacation with my Brothers from Chicago to Fla. We were looking for something to do, grabbed the paper, and CRIMSON was at this ROUND auditorium in West Palm Beach! Giles was not with them anymore, and guess who walked out on the stage? BILL looking like he fell off the turnip truck! He was dressed in jean overalls, hair cut very short, and bucking the LOUD clothes trend of the 70's. Talk about a GREAT time! What a perfect replacement. ❤
If you need a multitrack or drum mix file you can send me a private message on Patreon. Link in the video description and on the main page of the channel. Or leave your email - I will contact you myself.
a month late but the only way to get the original tracks extracted from this song is from the rhythm video game Guitar Hero. this track specifically was featured on Guitar Hero 5. in order to isolate the track, the player needs to start up the song with every instrument except for the one that is going to be extracted (example, if you wanna get the drum track, you would load a game with the vocals, bass and guitar.) after that, simply don't play any notes and record the audio. since nobody is playing the guitar, bass or vocal track, only the drums will come through. that was really hard to explain so sorry if i did it poorly
He has this weird off time thing that totally works. I thought Buford was unique but to me this is a lot more unorthodox. Buford is slightly more Savvy. To me, Buford is GOD but no reason to compare
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Don't realize how much the drums carry this song until you hear him isolated, holy shit
So much of the song's spirit is present in this video.
Realised it when i learned some parts on guitar and played them without drums
You do if you're a drummer 😊
The guitar and the voice mix crean el aura You feel me? ;b
One of the most melodic drummers in rock and roll history.
One of the most underrated drummers of all time
A marvel to hear! No other drummer played like Michael.... he was an island unto himself.
No one except Andy McCulloch that is.
@@gepmrk Their drummings do sound similar but I can tell the difference between who and who
4:14 favourite part🙆🏿♂️🙇🏿♂️🙆🏿♂️🙇🏿♂️
King crimson's and Jethro Tull's drummers are seriously underrated
Every single jazz fusion drummer are just unhinged
Better yet with the isolated bass added. Incredible.
Most tasteful drummer EVER!!! Those toms and bassdrum......whoa!!!! When I listen to today's drummer playing on what sounds like plastic lids, I want to throw up. I saw this guy and other KC drummers in late 60s and early seventies. ...all were great. In wake of Posiedon, the drums are beyond great. What a treat......Thank you!!!!!!!
plastic lids ...about it
MG's drum parts on those first two KC albums were amazingly inventive and melodic.
This is insane. What a composition!
Absolutely surgical.
Mike Giles is underrated.
The perfect drum sound.
Good Job !
Michael Giles is genius !
Otherworldly! One unequalled moment forever etched in time.
Wow! Unbelievable! Thanks so much for posting! One of the greatest drummers EVER!
5:26 actual double pedal, double bass drum, it's officially heavy
Pretty easily doable on a single with a toe-slide, heel toe or heel roll technique. Sorry for being a smartass but you don't need a double to learn this song so go get em!!
@@22z83Def not easy with a single pedal, especially with that kinda hard hitting. I've been playing drums for... 20 years, Jesus. I've played this song many times, never even knew there was a little double bass.
@@aakkoin it's forsure not "easy" by any metric. I guess I should have said: easily doable on a single pedal for an expert drummer. 14 years on drums here
@@22z83an expert drummer who’s taken time to master the fringe fields of toe slide, heel toe, or slide technique
@@22z83you certainly can’t play that ending mix out on a single pedal 😂
His note for note SYNCHING with that band where, like fusion Jazz, every stroke on his snare was in synch with a note on the lead instrument was INSANE!! That is so hard to do and concentrate on! He has that sound of PERFECTION with every single stroke. I was starting out on drums at that time, and I thought I would $hit a brick. I appreciate it far more than ever now! ~ And thank you kiboko. HOW did you do this??
This is from one popular game.
@@kiboko_drummer Thank you. A computer game?
For PlayStation, Xbox and Wii.
@@Davethreshold Guitar Hero actually.
Wow...such precision. Great drummer. The sound as well in 1969 is astoundingly good. Kit sound was not as strong on Poseidon sadly...not sure why.
Bc it was rushed an the band was crumbling beneath their feet
The bass drum on Poseidon sounds like a cardboard box
I think Michael left the band before recording poseidon...
@@TheGyroBarqusShow Yes and no. He left, but he was hired back as a session musician for the album as was Pete Giles. I think Lake had also agreed to join ELP, but stayed to finish the record for Fripp as well.
@@microbunny hmm. i didn't know that, anyway great band and putted it mark on the music history
This is absolutely INSANE
If one didn't know any better and u asked them what yr they thought this was recorded, I guarantee the person u asked would answer recent within the last decade or 2 and this is as old as me and I'm 50. Amazing articulation and cleanliness of both player and engineer.
If you like this guy then I highly recommend checking out the GIles, Giles, and Fripp record(s).
This is brilliant! I'm going to listen one more time. You almost don't need the rest of the boys.
thats some insane isolating work, great job
What an amazing take that was
Rumor has it this was the first take too
Insanely great - this drum track alone. And then there's all the other instruments and vocals. ;)
Thanks for posting.
Underrated drummer
Jesus christ what a master
A totally ridiculous drum track. Exquisite, intricate and powerful.
God, what the hell is that breakdown sound. A lowpass filter on the high hat? Sounds so evil!
Absolutely insane.
My favourite song with my favourite KC drummer.
And I love Bruford...
Fantastic!
excellent
king crimson they mix the cymbals real low in volume, cymbals actually are deafening loud, much louder than the drums if you are standibg in the same room
depends how you play them, if you're really good at controlling your wrist and finger movements you could minimise the amount of volume the cymbals produce
but yeah this is definitely a mixing effort
Gavin Harrison, Pat Mastelotto and Jeremy Stacey are very good drummers but even together they can't even come close to Mike Giles or Bill Bruford's magic.
It doesn't really matter though. They are doing a triple drum interpretation, not trying to copy note by note. It's actually much more difficult for the three drummers lineup because they have to be careful not to get in each other's way.
in other words, Mike Giles and Bill Bruford are very good drummers, but even together they cant even come close to Gavin harrison, Pat Mastelotto and Jeremy Stacy's magic😏
@@progrockpondscum2764 In other words, Gavin harrison, Pat mastolleto, Jeremy Stacey, Michael Giles and Bill Bruford are all very good drummers and they are all magic
Great drummers but don't have the personality of BB and MG. A bit generic sounding.
I don't remember who was drummer for King Crimson in 1974.
I do think John Wetton was on bass.
2 other times I saw them Bill Bruford was the drummer.
I had no idea. Thanks for posting up.
Was the hi hat going through a wah pedal in the beginning? Keeee Kaaaah Kohhhh Kaaaah etc.
I was looking for KC live performance with Michael Giles when I found this. Stunning. And I am still looking for live footage of the first King Crimson. Any ideas?
Only one video footage, actually. "Cat Food" when they were live in Belgium. You can see Giles and Lake still a member. KC wasn't very well documented in 69-70. Although there are some photos of Giles playing drums for Early KC.
There is the album live on Hyde Park on Dailymotion. But only audio.
For videos of KC Mk I, there’s not much. There’s a heavily edited-together version of ‘Schizoid Man’ made up of probably a minute and a half of actual video footage from the Hyde Park concert, and a mostly-mimed ‘Cat Food’ from a TV promo performance that’s pretty funny. Of course there’s more live audio from the period, starting with the ‘Epitaph’ set, which is really great, and a full recording from the Hyde Park concert, which was their big stage debut.
Search KC channel on RUclips for the Morgan Studios version of this track. It's a mash-up of a an old recording of Giles' playing with JJ on vocals. Sublime.
@@baldyslapnut. Who’s JJ?
DAMN!
Anyone have isolated Saxophone?
Idk
Do you have the actual multitracks of the drums from this song? How were you able to isolate each drum into Audacity?
I used Audacity only for mixing. I have a multitrack of this song.
kiboko Found it ;) Thanks!
Woaaaaahouuuuu !!!!😱😱😱
Si goooood !!!! 😱😱😱😱
Sounds like Ludwig drums.
Tom Toms sound like Ginger Baker's
They were both using Ludwigs at the time but I will say that Ginger's toms were tuned a little higher.
These kinds of toms are very pleasing to my ears
Plus Giles used a double bass kit like Baker.
@@lenini056 Bill Bruford was the drummer the 3xs I saw them.
I'd be surprised if Bill Bruford wasn't a big fan
FUNNY you mentioned that! In about 1973, (?) I took a vacation with my Brothers from Chicago to Fla. We were looking for something to do, grabbed the paper, and CRIMSON was at this ROUND auditorium in West Palm Beach! Giles was not with them anymore, and guess who walked out on the stage? BILL looking like he fell off the turnip truck! He was dressed in jean overalls, hair cut very short, and bucking the LOUD clothes trend of the 70's. Talk about a GREAT time! What a perfect replacement. ❤
@@Davethreshold Thank you for sharing the story.
@@AmrakDoda You are very welcome!
MAESTRO!
Nice profile pic ;-)
Sono lontano anni luce da questa versione io mio entusiasmo di 40 anni fa mi faceva modificare in base alla giornata 👋🏻
How were you able to dissect the song and take out instruments? I really want to do this too but can’t find a file or how to even do it please help
These are tracks from the game GH.
@@kiboko_drummer guitar hero? I mean the audio software where you can take out cymbals or snares
Wow!!
Bill Bruford is love👌
Bruford didn't play in this album. That is Michael Giles there.
HOW DO YOU DO THIS I NEED TO KNOW HOW TO DO THIS
ME TOO! Maybe he knows the engineer?
@@Davethreshold I’m pretty sure he found the stem from Guitar Hero.
holy shit!! KUDOS!!
Saw them 3x's
:) I wonder who was shouting at the end.
Could you do ELP!!!!??, Cream, and Yes?
Yes - maybe I will.
Where the hell did you get this from?
Who was the drummer on this one, Bill Bruford or Ian Giles?
Michael Giles.
Michael Giles as opposed to Ian Wallace
Where can one find the stems of the drums?
If you need a multitrack or drum mix file you can send me a private message on Patreon. Link in the video description and on the main page of the channel.
Or leave your email - I will contact you myself.
Kiboko, can't you share with us the name of the freeware audio editor you used to 'extract' the drum track from the song???
I will disappoint you, but there is no such program that could extract tracks from a mixed song. I do not isolate the tracks, it is impossible to do.
I only use the freeware audio editor to mix my existing tracks.
Thanks for your reply, Kiboko! I don't understand though. If you didn't isolate the drum track from the song, how did you create this video???
Quite simply - I had already isolated tracks.
a month late but the only way to get the original tracks extracted from this song is from the rhythm video game Guitar Hero. this track specifically was featured on Guitar Hero 5. in order to isolate the track, the player needs to start up the song with every instrument except for the one that is going to be extracted (example, if you wanna get the drum track, you would load a game with the vocals, bass and guitar.) after that, simply don't play any notes and record the audio. since nobody is playing the guitar, bass or vocal track, only the drums will come through.
that was really hard to explain so sorry if i did it poorly
I can't read that notation. Is it Chinese?
Its the frequencies
He has this weird off time thing that totally works. I thought Buford was unique but to me this is a lot more unorthodox. Buford is slightly more Savvy. To me, Buford is GOD but no reason to compare
Michael Giles was a better drummer than Burford. He defined the sound of King Crimson.
@@duhusker4383 Even though I personally favour Giles, both of them are awesome drummers and equally technical proficient
@@duhusker4383 He is amazing but come on... BRUFORD is a legend
How did you isolate them?
I just mixed the already isolated tracks.
красавчик
How?
I think he took the sounds from Guitar Hero
We have John Bonham also,
Batteria strepitosa.
Sound engineer fucked up hard on that snare sound, its IMO only thing that shows its age on the otherwise timeless album.
Thank god I thought I was insane for not liking that snare
Damn, I love the sound of the snare
I actually like the sound of that snare tbh...
man the snare sounds so good wtf
Awesome great video,Red button done i hope you will be
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