One trick I’ve learned over time doing retainers is put a little bit of grease on the keepers and it helps them stay in place better. Keep up the great work. Love the vids!
Use the flat head end of a small screwdriver and put assembly lube/vaseline on the flat head & valve keeper to stick the keeper to the flat head. This makes it 100x easier to put the keepers on. Put one keeper in & rotate it to the other side of the valve, then stick the other one in there. They actually teach you to do it this way in automotive school when building engines. Good to see you got them in with tweezers though haha I watch people throw tools around the shop getting so mad trying to get them in and dropping them with tweezers 😂 good to see the build coming together! I have a video on calculating bucket size too! Im curious to see if you use the same method!
I went through and used the smallest bucket size to calculate everything, time consuming but worked 😅 and next time I'll be doing that, the tweezers worked but not the best method 😅🔥
@@Smeedia That works! But yes that is a very time consuming way haha. I actually used all the buckets I already had (even if they were too tight for spec) as long as they had more than 0.002” clearance and were not constantly touching. Then I took all my measurements on every lobe and used as many buckets as I could! (They are expensive so this limits the amount you need to buy). Check the video out haha maybe it will give you a new way of calculating bucket sizes and save ya some 💵 🤙🏼 ruclips.net/video/qog6rjB-bjk/видео.html
Let's do this! The amount of information i learn from you is insane. Makes me feel more confident working on mine. Wish you could come to the northeast 😂
I saw a video on RUclips that has keywords "install valves without special tool trick and it works amazing. It generally takes under 30 seconds per valve and it eliminates the chance of valve keepers flying off needing to be surgical about it. That special tool is nice but definitely time consuming. The other method uses 2 vise grips, spark plug socket and a piece of plastic similar to that made from sandwich bags although just about anything type can be used
Always love the videos, and that mantra of "If I can do it, you guys can do it" is giving me confidence to do more of my own repairs and modifications! Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us.
Hands on education Tanner the subie doctor👍 3 of my buddys watched this in my living room wrx/sti owners too, they were impressed when I showed'em your channel🤣 told em they were living under the rocks!
Hey Tanner I’m in my final stages of my IAG stage 3 closed deck I’m porting and polishing my heads next steps I’m right with you this was good video for a clearer idea 💡 ✌️✊🏻
If you put grease in the keepers they are easier to install. The grease helps them stick to the stem and not move around and they stay in place better.
I've seen people installing the valves with O2 sensor sockets and PVC pipes cut outs. But nothing like the proper tool to do the job well once, avoiding the possibility of damage to expensive components.
I might have the early stages of rod knock so I might need to rebuild my engine I have a 2015 wrx any advice? I’m mechanically advance but don’t have a bunch of specialty tools.
Just take your time and label when gling through everything, they're relatively easy motors to work around. If you do have knock make sure to get anything machined that needs to be
excellent! ting'ing is a technical term! This is exactly the type of thing (if you haven't done this kind of work before) that you need to know and understand, devil is in the details! Great Vid!!! /bow
also, a little lube on the keepers can help them stay in place while you assemble also, i have had to take a stone to the end of the valve to fix a tiny burr that can keep the retainer from going on correctly, very rare 14:40
Checking this vid again, that sounds at 3:50 reminds how satisfying is when you load the M203 lol. Yeah man I think ill get that Comp23 tool and change the valves, springs and retainers myself. I got my eyes on the Ferrea valves springs and retainers kit, for STi they have 2 kits, Endurance and Drag which i dont know which one is the suggested for street use. I'll do cams as well, but do I have to do new valves? if theyre still good can I use them with Ferrea dual springs?
You don't have to do new valves but while it's all apart it's definitely not a bad idea to do them, I'll have to look onto the Ferrea a bit more, haven't used em yet 🙏
@@Smeedia i was checking the spring compressor tool, didnt know torque solutions has one, its $20 cheaper than comp23 but dont know if its the same quality and get the job done. We'll see.
So glad I came across this channel - phenomenal stuff 😊 Would you consider making a EL15 build video, how to squeeze some "moo powaaah baby" from it? Full tear down, get it back into 1 piece ...
@@Smeedia If I was to swap EL15 for EJ20 would that base Impreza be able to hold it? The transmission and other stuff? 2008 Impreza Hatcback 1.5 R 107 HP. I would have to take a look at your channel in a bit more detail to see how that could be pulled off 😊
You would need to do the rltrans, rear diff etc. People have done it but it's not really worth the time and money 😖 ebay or Facebook is where I see them pop up!
@@Smeedia Yeah - thought so about the time and money part. The thing is that since 2008 it got closely to 50.000 km and I doubt that I would find a replacment that had that little km haha. Thanks for the reply - will make sure to check out all of the videos. Take care 😊
A little off topic but for my build my tuner says a catch can will not be good enough and that I will need an aos. I have not had any experience with an aos so could you explain a little bit about an aos and why it’s supposedly better than a catch can?
Great vids man. Have you ever had valve spring failures or valve failures? I’m looking into built heads and have seen very mixed reviews about some valve spring/valve manufacturers. Thanks
I haven't heard that, since the seats were machined to the valves they shouldent need lapping, the lapping should just help to clean up pitting kn the seat and the valve. But could be something I'm missing 👀
#1 subie educator. Thanks for the tutorial. Seems to always be nerve racking when you have never done it before. That’s how I feel.
For real, after doing the first head it felt super easy 🔥
One trick I’ve learned over time doing retainers is put a little bit of grease on the keepers and it helps them stay in place better. Keep up the great work. Love the vids!
Definitely going to be trying that next time 🔥🙌
Missed the good ole DIY videos... reminds me of the old garage and setup with the camera on the bench. ❤️
Yasssss, they're fun to do and whenever it's something that has not been done it is always good to cover 🔥
the bloop is so satisfying
Yessss 😍
🥺 that face you make when he blows out any metal shavings from the head while there's an open tub of assembly lube right next to it.
Lol all the chips go in there 😅😅😅
Pro tip: ALWAYS keep a lid on your grease except when you are using it. Lol. Other than that, great vid!
If you install stem seals first it holds the valves in real nice. Try it. Plus you can push them on with your thumb if the stem isn’t in the a way
Use the flat head end of a small screwdriver and put assembly lube/vaseline on the flat head & valve keeper to stick the keeper to the flat head. This makes it 100x easier to put the keepers on. Put one keeper in & rotate it to the other side of the valve, then stick the other one in there. They actually teach you to do it this way in automotive school when building engines. Good to see you got them in with tweezers though haha I watch people throw tools around the shop getting so mad trying to get them in and dropping them with tweezers 😂 good to see the build coming together! I have a video on calculating bucket size too! Im curious to see if you use the same method!
I went through and used the smallest bucket size to calculate everything, time consuming but worked 😅 and next time I'll be doing that, the tweezers worked but not the best method 😅🔥
@@Smeedia That works! But yes that is a very time consuming way haha. I actually used all the buckets I already had (even if they were too tight for spec) as long as they had more than 0.002” clearance and were not constantly touching. Then I took all my measurements on every lobe and used as many buckets as I could! (They are expensive so this limits the amount you need to buy). Check the video out haha maybe it will give you a new way of calculating bucket sizes and save ya some 💵 🤙🏼
ruclips.net/video/qog6rjB-bjk/видео.html
Let's do this! The amount of information i learn from you is insane. Makes me feel more confident working on mine. Wish you could come to the northeast 😂
Lol well I'm glad the videos are at least helping 😁🔥
Rebuilding my 2012 WRX Hatch, this was helpful!
Perfect timing 🔥😁
I want to build my engine myself so bad but I have no tools and money is definitely holding me back.
Apart from that great video!
I saw a video on RUclips that has keywords "install valves without special tool trick and it works amazing.
It generally takes under 30 seconds per valve and it eliminates the chance of valve keepers flying off needing to be surgical about it.
That special tool is nice but definitely time consuming.
The other method uses 2 vise grips, spark plug socket and a piece of plastic similar to that made from sandwich bags although just about anything type can be used
Also that company 23 tool is a PITA just use the generic modified g clamp style it works way easier and your mate can borrow it too
There Truly could not a better video running through rebuilding heads.
Eyyyyy, thank you 🙏
Always love the videos, and that mantra of "If I can do it, you guys can do it" is giving me confidence to do more of my own repairs and modifications! Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us.
Anytime! No with it being my first time I felt pretty confident in doing it. It too hard to do 😁
Hands on education Tanner the subie doctor👍 3 of my buddys watched this in my living room wrx/sti owners too, they were impressed when I showed'em your channel🤣 told em they were living under the rocks!
Eyyyyy, alqays appreciate sharing the videos! Hopefully it helped them out too 🙌🔥
Hey Tanner I’m in my final stages of my IAG stage 3 closed deck I’m porting and polishing my heads next steps I’m right with you this was good video for a clearer idea 💡 ✌️✊🏻
Sounds like you'll have a solid set up 😈🔥
If you put grease in the keepers they are easier to install. The grease helps them stick to the stem and not move around and they stay in place better.
Ended up doing that on the last few 😅🔥
Awesome vid man. Love seein it all come together little at a time. Can’t wait for the final product. 🤟🏼🤟🏼
Thank you, and she's getting there one day at a time 🔥🙏
I've seen people installing the valves with O2 sensor sockets and PVC pipes cut outs. But nothing like the proper tool to do the job well once, avoiding the possibility of damage to expensive components.
Definitely an interesting combo of tools to get the job done 😅
I might have the early stages of rod knock so I might need to rebuild my engine I have a 2015 wrx any advice? I’m mechanically advance but don’t have a bunch of specialty tools.
Just take your time and label when gling through everything, they're relatively easy motors to work around. If you do have knock make sure to get anything machined that needs to be
Almost at 50k bro! So sick! Im not sure when I subscribed but you had just over 30k and it's only been like 9 months or less
Trying to grow out here 🙌 been a lot faster than I ever thought it would!
Aye video posted right at my lunchtime!
What was for lunch?!
This was such a great tutorial. Thank you
Glad it helped! 🙏
Maaaaaan im dying to do some head work! This didnt help lol! Loved it! Cant wait to hear this start back up w/ zero ticking of course
No more ticking!!!!
just bare hand the keeper covered in a bit a assembly lube makes it much easier
excellent! ting'ing is a technical term! This is exactly the type of thing (if you haven't done this kind of work before) that you need to know and understand, devil is in the details! Great Vid!!! /bow
also, a little lube on the keepers can help them stay in place while you assemble
also, i have had to take a stone to the end of the valve to fix a tiny burr that can keep the retainer from going on correctly, very rare 14:40
Found that out at the end that a little assy lube helps 😅🔥
Excellent work man... love your drive!
Thanks mate, good vid.
Really enjoying this channel. Miss my subaru. Need to get me a blob eye.
Yassss, get yourself one 🙌🔥
idk if these aftermarket valve seals are all the same for the IN/EX valves. The oem ones have tiny "IN" and "EX" for valve seals.
Aftermarket do not have them, oem does 🙏 oem is also color coded
Will be doing this very soon, was really helpful thanks tanner!!
Glad it will help! 🔥😁
Great video
Love your videos I’ve learned so much watching your videos can’t wait to see the end result keep grinding 🔥🤟🏽👌
Glad I can share and glad they're helping!
Checking this vid again, that sounds at 3:50 reminds how satisfying is when you load the M203 lol. Yeah man I think ill get that Comp23 tool and change the valves, springs and retainers myself. I got my eyes on the Ferrea valves springs and retainers kit, for STi they have 2 kits, Endurance and Drag which i dont know which one is the suggested for street use. I'll do cams as well, but do I have to do new valves? if theyre still good can I use them with Ferrea dual springs?
You don't have to do new valves but while it's all apart it's definitely not a bad idea to do them, I'll have to look onto the Ferrea a bit more, haven't used em yet 🙏
@@Smeedia i was checking the spring compressor tool, didnt know torque solutions has one, its $20 cheaper than comp23 but dont know if its the same quality and get the job done. We'll see.
So glad I came across this channel - phenomenal stuff 😊
Would you consider making a EL15 build video, how to squeeze some "moo powaaah baby" from it? Full tear down, get it back into 1 piece ...
Unfortunately not much you can do either them. You'd be better off swapping to a EJ20/25 for more power. 😭
@@Smeedia If I was to swap EL15 for EJ20 would that base Impreza be able to hold it? The transmission and other stuff? 2008 Impreza Hatcback 1.5 R 107 HP.
I would have to take a look at your channel in a bit more detail to see how that could be pulled off 😊
@@Smeedia Also - where do you look those engines up? Where do you buy them from? Thanks
You would need to do the rltrans, rear diff etc. People have done it but it's not really worth the time and money 😖 ebay or Facebook is where I see them pop up!
@@Smeedia Yeah - thought so about the time and money part. The thing is that since 2008 it got closely to 50.000 km and I doubt that I would find a replacment that had that little km haha. Thanks for the reply - will make sure to check out all of the videos. Take care 😊
Great video love the jargon and chit chat. F'noodle or ph'noodle?
crazy process
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Great video. 📹👍
Thank you 🥳
When you assembled the heads and put the keepers in, is there suppose to be a little gap between the keepers
Yes, they dont always touch, they will also spin around the valve as it's running over time
I'm not keen on that spring compressing tool... seems like a good way to mess up the threads of the cam caps.
Built numerous sets of heads and haven't had one strip out 🙏
Hi, will a 2018 subaru outback wagon non turbo have a cam carrier leak/drip at 34,000 miles on the car? dealer is charging me $3555+.
What machine shop did you send the heads to?
I use Napa off of pacific or Heads up 🤙
Get it. In doing my bugeye heads right now
Perfect timingggg🔥🔥🔥
You should do a meet and greet in the summer or a cruise up here in Washington
Have one in the works we were thinking of doing 😁
Hell yeah. I hope to have the bugeye up and going soon. I hope I can make it.
A little off topic but for my build my tuner says a catch can will not be good enough and that I will need an aos. I have not had any experience with an aos so could you explain a little bit about an aos and why it’s supposedly better than a catch can?
I got you 🙌
ruclips.net/video/2A4FijzXKyg/видео.html
Ahhh yes the getting the keepers to keep was a good time. I don’t think I asked are you staying MAF or going SD?
Hybrid set up using the visconti tuning kit 🙏😁
Thank you !!
Anytime! 🙏
Did you had to send the valves to the machine shop so they could resurface for the new valves?
Yesssss
Does that valve spring compressor work on BRZ springs?
I do not think so
For an N/A EJ25D is there any preference for Brian Crower or Supertech Valves?
Flip and coin, both are solid options 🔥
Do the valves have E and I labeled on them or you just throw them on in any way
No, they're physically diffrent sizes so you shouldent get them mixed up 🙏
hello is eg33 valves ,spring and cam bucket same as ej25?
Unfortunately the buckets are diffrent, I believe the valves are diffrent too
Great vids man. Have you ever had valve spring failures or valve failures? I’m looking into built heads and have seen very mixed reviews about some valve spring/valve manufacturers. Thanks
No issues with heads they're relatively easy to assemble. As for parts your pretty safe with Manley, GSC and Brian Crower 🙏
@@Smeedia cool. Thanks
Brother, why didn't you record it with macro shooting frames???(
What is shooting flames?!
@@Smeedia frames brother) not flames)
I meant, with big zoom to see how you work with everything)
Finding part two a nightmare. Getting g fed up of RUclips. Used to automatically suggest next video now sends u anywhere but :(
RUclipss been doing that lately 😪
@@Smeedia love your channel though.
Oi , I wanna send you something for the blob. Red or blue?
Ohhhhhhh red 👀🔥
Good choice
you explain very fast
why won't my buckets slide back on? i lubed them in and out...
Make sure they're 100% dead nuts straight. Any angle and they won't want to go on
No lapping of the valves?
Did not need to. All the valve seats were cut to the valves
@@Smeedia I have always been told to lap new valves, even after the seats were machined.
I haven't heard that, since the seats were machined to the valves they shouldent need lapping, the lapping should just help to clean up pitting kn the seat and the valve. But could be something I'm missing 👀
Less gooooooo
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You should have lapped those valves before assembling the head completely
Why? The valve seats were cut to the valves and vaccumm tested to ensure a good seal
I understand that, but lapping them will help with seating/sealing better. You’ll see a difference in leak down percentages
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Whoooooop 🔥🔥🔥🔥
You forgot to valve lash these! At least do it right man.
Valve lash takes place on the bucket side, not grinding the valves here 👀
@@Smeedia you need to lash the outer part of the valve lip and mate it to the head. It will give you a better seal.
Lapping the valves? All the seats were cut to the new valves
First press seals into space before putting valves in, dum dum
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