I can honestly say that I haven’t learned one thing about being a woman from a gay man… not my makeup, hair or the way I talk. Actually I had a gay friend who copied everything I did down to my hand movements and even said that he does it cuz he loves how feminine I am.
@@KamalaHarris2024 that’s what I’m like, Watch it be all these homophobic people they don’t even care about the situation just gonna say something because they hate gay people
Of course they learn from you, you should see the gays in San Francisco. Girl this, girl that. Black women are the blueprint even when it comes to female trends.
Yeah, the audacity of him uttering such! The gays wish they could take that title, but you can't compete with authenticity and ain't nothing fake about that.
@@tonysparks9453 Women flock to gay men? I don't understand. So, if I know 5 -10 gay men and/or women, that mean I'm flocking to gay men? There's nothing wrong with having someone gay as a friend, but there are some things you won't (at least I won't) feel comfortable sharing with a gay man or trans woman because they would never understand.
@@larkstevens8456 He acts like the whole world is like Atlanta. The women down there might use gay men like accessories, but that is not normal everywhere. I've never had a man do my hair and nails or give me advice on anything.
@@KamalaHarris2024 please shut up and stop using that cliche term so loosely. In fact, no one is obligated to agree to any lifestyle. Honestly women do run the world indirectly.
I am a Woman, because I was born a Woman, my femininity comes from within. I was taught and raised by a strong & courageous mother who required me to be a strong & courageous woman that knows my worth. With or without makeup, fake fingernails , or certain clothing to enhance my body, I am still full, purebred woman that God blessed me to be.
I have to say I totally agree with Claudia's points. I'm hetero BW and a lot of flagrant gay men over exaggerate femineity to the point of being clownish. Ive had a lot of straight BM say why do flagrant gay men do "all that' like I don't know actual women who act like that. I get it if you are "on stage" but IRL its excessive. No BW I know is looking to emulate that. We are inherently feminine and don't need men to 'show' how to be who we naturally are. Also, there shouldn't be division but you see a lot of gay men are as petty as women so then there's that. With pettiness, either party is always going to go for what they think will cut the deepest. And while I don't think targeting a man's sexuality is necessary, most legit straight men don't want to be seen as gay to the straight women they are hopping to attract.
@@KamalaHarris2024 Chile bye. You copying and pasting this one comment under everyone's comment. Nobody said anything when she said " girls run the world " because it's true, and we are woman and agree. Stop this homophobic storyline bs because it's far from about that. Facts are just the facts. WOMEN are the blueprint. Who do gay men talk and act like, and feel they are sometimes? WOMEN‼️ Myself as well as millions of other women have learned to be us, our divine feminity, style, grace etc from our Mothers, Grandmother's and Aunties. I haven't learned a damn thing from a gay man. And there's nothing one can teach me about being a woman.
Y'all women need to keep it cute. Because not all of us gay people is in agreement with him. But keep on now we get to see your true colors. Let me find out y'all just wanted something to go off on. If you don't like gay people just say it it's okay. But we still wouldn't care. Y'all want to be hurt so bad it's sad. But at the end of the day we are going to be okay. They get community will always stick together no matter what. I wish that the female community has the same energy as the gay community. Because if you keep it real keep it 100. It'd be women who set back other women. Y'all be ready to talk about each other on a drop of a dime. God can't stand for another female to get something better or bigger than you. I mean we can talk if we want to talk. But stop being rude trying to include all gay people in what he is saying because we all do not think like him.
@@krystaldouglas1305 I’m not sure who you are talking to or mad at but no one in this comment thread said anything derogatory about gay men. You may want to put this comment elsewhere.
Claudia please keep it coming you are power house woman you sure gave it to them right to the Head. It's like teaching a child how to ride a bike and once they get the rhythm of how riding bike works they now running around saying I'm doing a better than she did yeah how you doing it better yet you learned all the tricks and out of my sleeves. The problem with gay people is they have to make everything they find a trend and push their agenda on society when it really for natural women it just comes natural they don't have to overboard anything but be themselves because they were naturally designed that way.
This part!!!!!! Never has been. Women has been women forever and our divine nature came with it. Grandmother and mother taught us how to walk in it. Men getting in and making fun fashions with what we had going is cute, but it's not perfecting us. Yall remember when women started doing their makeup heavier which I know some tricks they learned from drag queens? I told myself it's going to become a problem sooner or later. And look at this.
Boundaries and Trauma is the main reason for this behavior. Stop rewarding these awful people/ bullies . Also, why is this awful person given a platform to hate?
Thank you Claudia. Cause I was about to light this comment section up. There is no competition here and you cannot perfect what you were not created to be. Womanhood and Femininity are about more than clothing, hair, make-up and mannerisms. Yes, we are called to love one another, and how we treat one another is a whole other round table discussion, but I will not be disrespected.
It's obvious Gay men are angry at femininity. Somewhere along the way, they schemed and plotted to try to get revenge against Women. For a man to say, I can do it better than women. Then perverted BET gives this foolishness the stage. Mr. Salsa running around thinking he can do it better than Women. Speaks volumes of hate within that individual. Plus ain't NOTHING sexy about a man with a mustache and butt implants! 😠
🗣️ Claudia said what she said, PERIOD! And I'm about to say what I got to say... 🗣️ *WE ARE WHAT Y'ALL WANT TO BE! WE ARE FEMINISM! WE ARE WOMEN! WE HAVE THE BODY PARTS Y'ALL WISH Y'ALL WE'RE BORN WITH! WE ARE COMFY IN OUR SKIN WHERE'S AS YOU'RE NOT BECAUSE Y'ALL STAY TRYING TO BE LIKE US, LOW-KEY COMPETE WITH US AND TRANSITION INTO US, WHEN THERE'S NO COMPETITION! WE ARE IT! THE BLUE PRINT OF FEMINISM! CAN'T NO MAN "OUT WOMAN" US! WE ARE WOMEN!! WE WERE BORN LIKE THIS! WE WAKE UP LIKE THIS! THERE'S NOT 1 GAY MAN OR LGBTQIA MAN THAT I'M INTERESTED IN BEING LIKE OR THAT I GET ANY IDEAS FROM! IF WOMEN DIDN'T EXIST THERE WOULDN'T BE A BLUEPRINT FOR FEMINISM, REMEMBER THAT!*
Y'all women need to keep it cute. Because not all of us gay people is in agreement with him. But keep on now we get to see your true colors. Let me find out y'all just wanted something to go off on. If you don't like gay people just say it it's okay. But we still wouldn't care. Y'all want to be hurt so bad it's sad. But at the end of the day we are going to be okay. They get community will always stick together no matter what. I wish that the female community has the same energy as the gay community. Because if you keep it real keep it 100. It'd be women who set back other women. Y'all be ready to talk about each other on a drop of a dime. God can't stand for another female to get something better or bigger than you. I mean we can talk if we want to talk. But stop being rude trying to include all gay people in what he is saying because we all do not think like him.
I agree with Claudia. Unfortunately the lines are becoming blurred and I think some are confused. A comment was made about competing for space. A man can not compete with a natural born woman for women's space no matter the style of dress, wig, makeup, whatever. At the end of the day Black people need to quit competing against each other in a negative way, and help pull each other up.
Yes Claudia!!! Femininity and womanhood is more than just make up, nails and clothes. I agree that gay black men are responsible for a lot of trends that are commercialized but some of these trends in my opinion, are not flattering on women. We have opened spaces for gay black men and it sucks that we get disrespect in return.
My mother taught me how to be a woman, a true woman. I watched her do her hair, and her makeup. I saw her get dressed and didn't have to tuck anything(no shade. She was the one the taught me how to love myself first, because she was a single mother. I learned from other black women on RUclips about makeup and hair textures. I researched and studied the rest. Yes I have watched some beautiful black men do their makeup and some I even subscribe to, but I haven't learned anything that I wasn't taught, but I can appreciate watching them.
Thank you Claudia, I have never looked to a gay man for my femininity, Dorothy Dandridge, Diana Ross, Nancy Wilson, Diane Carroll, Lena Horne, Whitney Houston, Halle Berry, Phylicia Rashad, Angela Bassett, I can go on and on. There are also white women I could name, before a man.
And all of these icons that you name a lot of gay men actually portray them in some of their shows like the Diana Ross and Dorothy Dandridge. Drag shows are based off of famous women well how is it that gay men have told us how to be feminine and how is it that we're mimicking them? I'm confused. Even a gay man's gestures are that of like a woman men don't flooded their eyes and have a switch to when they walk in thrusting their hips side to side in a feminine manner men don't do that women do that to lure men into their trap so I don't know what saucy is talking about 🤣🤣
And what’s funnier is that a lot of ghey m3n also looked to those very same wom3n. Are they doing glam better than vintage blk Hollywood?! Absolutely not!
Y'all women need to keep it cute. Because not all of us gay people is in agreement with him. But keep on now we get to see your true colors. Let me find out y'all just wanted something to go off on. If you don't like gay people just say it it's okay. But we still wouldn't care. Y'all want to be hurt so bad it's sad. But at the end of the day we are going to be okay. They get community will always stick together no matter what. I wish that the female community has the same energy as the gay community. Because if you keep it real keep it 100. It'd be women who set back other women. Y'all be ready to talk about each other on a drop of a dime. God can't stand for another female to get something better or bigger than you. I mean we can talk if we want to talk. But stop being rude trying to include all gay people in what he is saying because we all do not think like him.
@@krystaldouglas1305, no one is including all gays. Believe me if I had an issue with gay men, I would speak on it. All I am saying is that Claudia told the truth. We need to have an open dialogue when neither party is dogging out each other. Not all black women play victim ot want to see a sister doing bad. Saucy has been saying a lot of things that people don't agree with.
Claudia, thank you for speaking so eloquently. I learned about being a woman from my mother, aunts, teachers, Sunday School teachers, Camp Fire Girl leaders, and other women in my community. You always speak up for black women. I would like to see you have a show or podcast with just you. I look forward to hearing your thoughts on the show’s topics every Wednesday and Friday. Keep up the great work. Bravo to you.
I feel like Que's response showed some of his own gay privilege. As a black woman we are STILL out here fighting for our rights. We are still overlooked and gay rights does not equal black women rights. We're still waiting for ours. I think it is incendiary to think that you (or any black gay man) can wear makeup and wigs and teach me something about being a woman. Love this show but Que you were off on this one.
What rights? Where in the US did they declare that Black women did NOT have rights? This is a FREE country. You're not in a third world country. Please get over yourself.
Thats it, not thee inherent, natural, divine femininity that God bestowed in a beautiful, sexy woman, the gay man's thespian antics of femininity is just that, OVER EXAGGERATED FEMININITY, PERIOD, POINT BLANK, YOU HIT THAT NAIL DIRECTLY ON THE HEAD!!!
Claudia, “A man will never be the blueprint on femininity.” Truth…. I got being a lady from my grandmother and other ultra feminine women in my life growing up! No matter what a man does he can never be a woman or teach me anything about what I was born as…. Point Blank Period with ALL the shade!
@@KamalaHarris2024 you can post this as many times as you want... the facts are, one is the truth... and the other is an offensive declaration that is dipped in unwarranted arrogance. It also widens the divide between us. Stop labeling people not agreeing with every single opinion as homophobia. It's bogus as hell. There are people from the LGBTQAI+ community that also disagrees with that bs. Are they homophobic too? Or nah, their called (pick me's) right? "Where the hypocrites at? What community feels they're the only one's relevant?"
The point everyone is missing is that make up, glam and playing dress up does NOT define a woman! A woman is far more than playing pretty! Because he can dress up, switch when he walks, and mimic OUR moves but he will NEVER, EVER know what Woman the Mother of ALL men go through, feel, or truly experience. We GIVE life. They can learn to do certain things but you could never be us. Ever.
CLAUDIA SHUT IT DOWN AND REMINDED EVERYONE, WHAT IT REALLY IS!!! Period!!! 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💯💯💯 Black gay men gone turn around and finally have NO ONE to hold them up. 💅🏾💅🏾💅🏾 We have obviously made them so comfortable that they no longer admire and respect us like they used to, and now they asses feel SUPERIOR to us now!!! BIG PROBLEM!!! Must EVERYTHING be a competition?!?!?!?
COME ON CLAUDIA!!!!! WELL SPOKEN!!! ON POINT FEEDBACK!!! As black people, why are we so quick to put one another down and segregated within the community? We are the only ones who haven't learned the art of sticking together..."community". It is sickening! WE MUST DO BETTER AS A WHOLE!
@@KamalaHarris2024 phobia is a fear. Many people don't fear homosexual people. The issue is how gay men are trying to pretend as biological women don't exist without them. As stated by the original post we should co exist not compete. We women created the blueprint on feminity then gay men came and pressed copy, paste, went to photo shop and ramped it up to adjust their look to match what we do regularly. So no one is scared of homosexuals the issue is don't knock what copied then call it original.
How're you saying that in this episode especially after the recent Smith incident or even Monique🤔WE wouldn't stfu for nothing about it!!! But heyyyyyyyyyyy my people😁
Other communities do this as well. They gay community in other populations would NEVER do this to their race of women... well white guys do...but besides them.... instead... the trend is to attack black women. Every groups of guys take all of their aggression on bw. They do it because black guys sat the blue print for all other gays..guys... They attack bw... therefore they feel they should also attack bw. I notice black gay men do not address the racist issues in their communities.
As black gay man myself I have this to say....... CLAUDIA JORDAN SET THIS ISH ON 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥. LOL Saucy and Funky you both were out of line, a student can NEVER say he created or perfected or is better than the creator and the Teacher, think about that for a second.
My brother is gay and I love him to death. He is a stylist and is d**n good at what he does. With that said I have learned EVERYTHING I am from my grandmothers, mama, and aunts!
As a feminine black gay male. Im team Claudia on this one. I love me some Santana but he's been talking to much for me. Just go on stage. Do ya songs, tell the crowd to wave their hands in the air. And leave. All that extra is uncalled for
Claudia hit it right on the head it’s a MUTUAL DISRESPECT when tempers flair, so Funky stop acting like it’s one sided like black gay men sit in the corner saying nothing while being “verbally abused” by black woman, it takes 2 but ultimately we have each other’s back in most cases!
@@blkcoverboy1049 I think it's the idea that when you're mad, you go for the most hurtful thing to tear down another person. Black women may go for dissing the sexuality since it's an easy target. It can get disgusting throwing out aids and other demented comments (reference Khia). I've seen black men go low as well with the "that's why your baby daddy ain't shit, that's why you're broke, or your kids are bad". It's a mutual disrespect and let's be honest in the black community we can be vicious with our tongues to loved ones trying to cut each other down bad.
@@blkcoverboy1049 That's only because most of them are trying to be women and compete for the same men so it would be silly to attack a woman's sexuality.
@@blkcoverboy1049 but he will call her all kinds of misogynistic slurs. You can’t call women bi$hes, hoe$ and every other disrespectful misogynistic term and then play victim when they respond.
I stand with Claudia. She stated facts. Of course gay men are able to do what women do because again their MEN! they have always been given rights that women have never had. So we definitely should not discredit or take away from women.
@@KamalaHarris2024 women give birth to the world, so of course they are ruling the world, they can control us through their sexuality and that is a fact all around the world. Without women there is no life. 🙄 And if don't know, that is their superpower toward men, you are living in a gay land full of fantasy🙄🙄🙄
@@KamalaHarris2024 I don't think anyone has a problem with the statement gays rule the world. Its the statement that we need gays to do what we already have been doing. It's disrespectful.
I have never went to a gay man for anything. Not to learn makeup, babysit Etc. He’s taking a small group of woman and saying it’s ALL! It’s bad enough trans woman want us to stop calling ourselves woman at some point this has to stop! Guess when apart of the community that can’t be canceled you can say anything.
CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT TREND DID GAY BLACK MEN TEACH BLACK WOMEN?? AND HOW IS A WHOLE ASS NIGGAH.. MORE FEMININE THAN A WOMAN?? and please don't delete this comment like yall been doing. Let the people speak..
Claudia sitting there looking naturally gorgeous telling the whole truth. There is a female celebrity niche that allow their faces to be masked by a full beat to the gods look with severe contouring and heavy makeup previously only seen on performance stages. However, the majority of black woman wear moisturized fresh faces with very little (if any) makeup so our natural beauty is seen and appreciated, not a man made mask.
I am a multiracial Afro-Caribbean gay man. I agree 💯 with what Claudia said. The part that I also agree with my gay brothers is how our sexuality has been used as a way to insult others. So, we as black gay men (SOME) need to stop this weird attempt to "outshine" black women b/c it will NEVER happen. And, for our beautiful sisters. We humbly ask to be mindful & for those who do it, please don't use our sexuality as an insult. I love you all.
Black women are the inspiration for EVERYBODY. However because our beauty is consistently diminished appropriated and re-introduced our own need for sisterhood validation and acceptance is so great that we have turned over our *Majic* to gay men ……they feature all things rooted in fabulousness that is ours ! Ain’t no man ever gonna out woman me. I hear you Claudia !!! Nobody roots harder for the gays than us , nobody has practiced greater love respect and acceptance than black woman. Saucy is mad at his mama ….
As black women divest from straight black men and open up our dating options, we should also divest from gay black men. They have the same mindset:humble or get rid of the black woman. Baby we are the BLUEPRINT! Trying to be a woman and being a woman are two DIFFERENT things! You’re ketchup in a bottle, preservatives and chemicals added. I am the tomato, grown and plucked off the vine, ripened naturally by the sun, natural and whole. We will NEVER be the same.
Zulu swashbuckler. Staygolden I always had a problem with that damn song as a man not because I was threatened by a strong successful independent assertive woman especially not a black woman but because that was taken it to damn for...I mean t.l.c. song no scrubs I sampley ignored but that song but because it was Beyonce people she could do no wrong and the dudes didn't have the stones to call her out because they didn't want to look sexist or because it was Beyonce they let her go unchecked🤷🏿♂️ Saucie Santa said also that women could learn something from gays about being feminint with is bullshite a gay man in emphasis on the word man can't teach a woman how feminint just like a woman can't teach a man how to be masculine🗣‼️
@@KamalaHarris2024 lol if you really knew me, homophobic would not be the name you chose to call me, so I’m not even going to take offense to that. You’re also comparing apples to oranges in my opinion. Beyoncé said women run the world which is actually true in my opinion even down to the point that women are the original blueprint for gay men. The problem with Santana is he bashed a whole gender that he is emulating. Beyoncé never did that. He could have said gays run the world if that’s how he feels and left it at that. Just because someone disagrees with a gay person does not make them homophobic. Go off though lol
I don't think so Gays... We have nothing in common. When it comes to self hate, why imitate and emulate, and simulate who you "hate on" the most? Born a woman and rose up on my throne, been a woman adjust my crown and in the afterlife a womb still will be found💯
I agree Claudia! You're TOTALLY right ma'am 🤎🤎🤎🙌🏾💅🏾 Us gay men add to the creativity of femininity, that's all, that's it! 🤷🏾♂️ We can NEVER relate to females internally.
Just because someone is good at putting a couple of outfits together and combing hair does not mean they add creativity to femininity because without those things I'm still a feminine women the energy is from within.
@@youknowwhatflav9916 Girl don't try to discredit our creativity! Don't forget the majority of these high-end clothing designers is gay, and the majority of our choreographers and hair stylist for celebrities, is gay. Listen to Beyonce new single, You Can't Break My Soul! Get into it! 🌈
As a straight Black man, I’m glad Claudia spoke up because this panel was spewing complete trash before and after she spoke. There should’ve been even 2 straight Black women to defend the truth equally.
Exactly usually Al an que are on point with their comments. I have absolutely nothing against gay men but they are not the blueprint for woman. Lol. It’s a very odd way of thinking
As a black woman, our physical attributes are a microcosm of all the things we are. Our looks are a grain of sand on the beach that makes up our femininity. Our wombs have birthed nations, our breasts have fed everyone's children, our arms comfort anyone in need, our backs have been the foundation for this country, our blood, sweat and tears have been the life blood of the world. Our pain and ability to invent something out of nothing has fueled invention. Even at our worst, we've given our best. Our femininity is too complex to be explained away by trends, exagerrated or not, elevated or not. All of this without the influence of ANYONE else but those women who came before us and our internal roadmap...our poets, singers, models, actresses, lawyers, doctors, scientists, etc are the examples of the wide array of our femininity.... Claudia Said what needed to be said. Besides, you can't compete where you don't compare.
Thank you Claudia for keeping it💯 There is no way in hell that a gay man or even straight man for that matter, can tell a woman how to be a woman! And l hate the term cis-woman/ women. I am a woman PERIOD!
No lie, for a long time I was not a fan of Claudia but sis has been laying it down on her show and I am here for it!!! Everything she said and more!!!! 💯💯💯
Speak Claudia! I’m going to tell you the truth I was not the biggest fan of yours before but I am going to watch you every time now because I respect that you stood up because there are a lot of times when we women are not really standing up to gay men because to be truthful about it sometimes were scared of the backlash when we do speak against the gay and trans community. I love many of my gay men and i have a trans daughter but the truth is the truth. We as women are the blueprint of all WOMEN. Let’s not forget that all people gay or straight, born a woman or trans woman came from a woman!
We can also talk about how some gay men exploit the loneliness of some rich women. So they use them as accessories and they use them for access to $$ and lifestyle. Everyone can do better.
When you wear makeup, women clothes, weaves and go through these drastic surgeries to look like a woman, that means The women is the blueprint. It’s no in between, Rather you think a man does it better, the point is our black women is and will always be the blueprint. If a woman doesn’t conceive then how can the (blank) man get here to show a woman he can do it better. This the type of Claudia I like to see. One thing I notice, she will protect black women when she feel their disrespected and I think she’s good at it
Can a wo(man) get here without sperm? Were men wearing dresses, makeup, jewelry, wigs in ancient times? It’s not a new invention for men or women but woman wearing pants, shorts and button down shirts is a recent phenomenon.
I'm with Claudia on this one. I'll give gay men credit where its due however the disrespect is a no. I've had the most disrespect from gay black men, but always find myself defending one. At this point I try to stay away altogether all love though 💜
Thank you Claudia for saying what needed to be said even amongst the company to your left and right. That's integrity and you spoke the absolute truth. I could've said it better!
Claudia laid me out and I'm a woman a female with natural estrogen and progesterone the shit that make you sultry curvy soft you know womanly. Yo feelings gone stay hurt if you trying to be something you not.
I agree with Claudia, this us vs them need’s to not to continue, because both groups have toxic relationships with heterosexual BM, and we’re all we got . Saucy slapped BW in the face , I want him to win, but he’s not with this type of behavior. Real talk , that language reminds me of the toxic-hate we get from BM all over social media , and Saucy’s still a BM,,, never forget that ladies .
I get what you saying and absolutely right regarding Saucy but there is ignorance in all groups even black women. There are black women that are very toxic, homophobic, and can be just as bad as bm even regarding other black women. I've seen this first hand with rape allegations and leaving black girls unprotected to protect a bm. The best we can do is check those bad behaviors and not subscribe to this in-group/out-group dynamic.
@@dariusd2003 Black women aren't getting on stage saying we better than gay men. We are competing or trying to compare with gay men. There is no comparison. We simply embrace gay men and it's being flipped as tho we need them somehow. Gay men talk BAD about women. I've heard it. Let's not.
Al, I beg to differ. I’m a black woman, I didn’t know any gay black men when I was growing up. Like Claudia, my femininity came from watching my mother, aunts, teachers, pastor’s wives.🤷🏾♀️ I disagree Funky Dineva.🤷🏾♀️
THIS because not all of us do. And for them to act like it's a one way thing when it comes to two faced ppl is a joke. They do it just as much as bw and that's a fact. Hell Saucy doing it to all black women is what has this discussion going.
Or follow gay fashion. Some of these flamboyant men that supposedly we are copying or oversaturated are extremely exaggerated and I'm a natural born female and I don't act like that. Yeah!!!
Saucy Santana is a perfect example of why the music/entertainment industry still needs gatekeepers. Everyone getting a record deal after posting a Tiktok dance or singing a demo is getting out of hand!
As a heterosexual black woman, I do, at times, feel disrespected by gay men. It does feels uneven when it comes to respect. Now, to what Funky said about how black women disrespect black gay men is true but here's the thing: I feel that a gay black man would be so quick to disrespect a black woman than a heterosexual black man. For example, Lil Boosie, I don't hear the gay men talk about his hair, or his clothes, or his appearance in general. The only thing that they may talk about is his music (maybe). Now, Kim Burrell on the other hand, they came for her edges, her weight, her clothes.....the level of "comebacks" definitely not the same between hetero women and men. Now, what Kim and Lil Boosie has said was wrong but I want gay men to keep the same energy when it comes to disrespect, regardless of who it comes from.
First of all, KUDOS to the CORRECT punctuation...LOVE IT! Secondly, you are so correct!! They really let Kim Burrell have it, but to that, not saying she is right, Kim Burrell was raised in church, and many churches preach(ed) that "homosexuality is bad" and will "send you straight (no pun intented) to the fires of HELL". When you're raised like that, it can be hard to break away from that mindset. I was raised in a strict Pentecostal home, and it wasn't until I became an adult and created friendships with gay people, that my mindframe changed. Now, I know that love is love and it DOES NOT matter who you get it from.
Guys called Boosie all kinds of things. Ragged on his whole look. Gays get disrespectful horribly by women when she gets mad. So gays do clap back. Thats a normal reaction. Guays have fought heterosexual hating males all their lives. I've definitely seen women disrespect gays and turn on them quick
Thank you Claudia for making sense. Culture, norms and roles can be duplicated, yo mamma, grandmamma, auntie, ovaries and fallopian tubes cannot. The men on this panel were REACHING!!!! Why do gay Black men have to disrespect what women have always brought to this life, in order to walk in pride or self confidence. If love ain't in it, it ain't right!!!!
Everybody wanna replace the Black woman... Black women this is more reason for US to be mindful of our self hatred and envy towards one another and LEARN to stick together again!👑👑👑👑👑👑👑👑👑
Gay does not mean feminine. Saying that is problematic and putting a group of people in a box is reinforcing stereotypes. Gay men are still men. To add, Saucy Santana said publicly that straight men respect him.
Thank you , Claudia! Women ARE the blueprint. Saucy worded it exactly how he meant it. I’m an older woman who has always loved and respected the community. And the community has respected me. However, there has always been an undercurrent of jealousy and competition from some of the LGBTQ community. I do understand it, but It’s not right.
As a gay, black man, it is clear to me that women get their cues on femininity from other women. Some gay men may provide enhancements or an exaggerated take on the idea of femininity or style and some women may adapt their presentation, accordingly.
I've seen some rough women out their with not much femininity or wardrobe appearance. Gays definitely helped some women connect with their feminine side. I think the problem is everyone is talking in general and as a whole, instead of saying "some".
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I can honestly say that I haven’t learned one thing about being a woman from a gay man… not my makeup, hair or the way I talk. Actually I had a gay friend who copied everything I did down to my hand movements and even said that he does it cuz he loves how feminine I am.
@@KamalaHarris2024 women DO rule the world. sit your angry ass down and be mad somewhere else with that “homophobia” bullshit. FACTS are FACTS.
Right!
@@KamalaHarris2024 that’s what I’m like, Watch it be all these homophobic people they don’t even care about the situation just gonna say something because they hate gay people
Of course they learn from you, you should see the gays in San Francisco. Girl this, girl that. Black women are the blueprint even when it comes to female trends.
me either...not one thing.
Yes Claudia !!!! I learned everything about being a woman from my ultra feminine grandmother, mother & aunts! Santana have a seat boy!!!
me love santana musica
Wht woman got her feminity from a man. ??
@@NubianQueen100 , exactly! He definitely got it twisted! Gay men got their feminity from women.
I love Claudia!!! She rocks!
And HE!!!!! Look a hot mess.
That part Claudia! A man will never be the blueprint on femininity. The disrespect.
Yeah, the audacity of him uttering such! The gays wish they could take that title, but you can't compete with authenticity and ain't nothing fake about that.
Yep at Drag Shows they don't impersonate gay men, they Impersonate WOMEN so tell us, who's the blueprint? Stop with the disrespect.
Both male an female possess both the energy’s but we know which one belongs to which what is wrong with the world today
@@whatyalldoing7012 what’s wrong with the world ?😂
@@monamonae7732 lots of women are more masculine than straight men. So it’s not like all women or men are naturally feminine or masculine.
How can a gay man teach me to do what comes natural to me. Also, not every woman hang or have a gay black man as a friend. 100% agree with Claudia!
Seriously… I don’t know why some women hangout with black gay men as if they are their accessories. Then get mad when this gets said.
YEESSSSSSSS! That's true and Funky is making it like, every women have a gay guy around that she's copying now. Yea, Funky is delusional as well.
Seems like y’all do. Y’all love intermingling with them now all these dudes gay because they knew women flock to gay men.
@@tonysparks9453 Women flock to gay men? I don't understand. So, if I know 5 -10 gay men and/or women, that mean I'm flocking to gay men? There's nothing wrong with having someone gay as a friend, but there are some things you won't (at least I won't) feel comfortable sharing with a gay man or trans woman because they would never understand.
@@larkstevens8456 He acts like the whole world is like Atlanta. The women down there might use gay men like accessories, but that is not normal everywhere. I've never had a man do my hair and nails or give me advice on anything.
I have never been more proud of Claudia Jordan! This clip needs to go viral.
exactly
“I am not getting my cues on how to be a woman from a man with a beard, lipstick, and lashes” you better say that Claudia!
Nevaaaaa!
Honestly!🤝
That was funny 😄
Facts
Thankyou! We are the original blueprint.
CLAUDIA 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 This conversation needed to be had. Let’s not get it twisted, we are and have always been the BLUEPRINT for THE WORLD
And we are constantly shit on by everyone The gay black man that’s just like the straight ones they are both toxic as fuck
Yes Claudia!
Nah Claudia..
Yeah Claudia ate this! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Facts!!!!!!!!
Claudia worded everything right. She holds it down for women in these conversations 👏🏽👏🏽
She just speaks sense on every topic!
Speak Claudia!!!
Exactly how would we learn anything from a gay man when BLACK WOMEN are the blueprint??! Full stop right there, nothing else to say!
@@KamalaHarris2024 please shut up and stop using that cliche term so loosely. In fact, no one is obligated to agree to any lifestyle. Honestly women do run the world indirectly.
Claudia is so logical funky naw al ..well ..I disagree
I am a Woman, because I was born a Woman, my femininity comes from within. I was taught and raised by a strong & courageous mother who required me to be a strong & courageous woman that knows my worth. With or without makeup, fake fingernails , or certain clothing to enhance my body, I am still full, purebred woman that God blessed me to be.
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I have to say I totally agree with Claudia's points. I'm hetero BW and a lot of flagrant gay men over exaggerate femineity to the point of being clownish. Ive had a lot of straight BM say why do flagrant gay men do "all that' like I don't know actual women who act like that. I get it if you are "on stage" but IRL its excessive. No BW I know is looking to emulate that. We are inherently feminine and don't need men to 'show' how to be who we naturally are. Also, there shouldn't be division but you see a lot of gay men are as petty as women so then there's that. With pettiness, either party is always going to go for what they think will cut the deepest. And while I don't think targeting a man's sexuality is necessary, most legit straight men don't want to be seen as gay to the straight women they are hopping to attract.
Well said ! 💯
Thank God Claudia was on this panel!!!!
Exactly 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽
💯Yessss!!!
@@KamalaHarris2024 Chile bye.
You copying and pasting this one comment under everyone's comment.
Nobody said anything when she said " girls run the world " because it's true, and we are woman and agree. Stop this homophobic storyline bs because it's far from about that.
Facts are just the facts.
WOMEN are the blueprint. Who do gay men talk and act like, and feel they are sometimes? WOMEN‼️
Myself as well as millions of other women have learned to be us, our divine feminity, style, grace etc from our Mothers, Grandmother's and Aunties. I haven't learned a damn thing from a gay man. And there's nothing one can teach me about being a woman.
Y'all women need to keep it cute. Because not all of us gay people is in agreement with him. But keep on now we get to see your true colors. Let me find out y'all just wanted something to go off on. If you don't like gay people just say it it's okay. But we still wouldn't care. Y'all want to be hurt so bad it's sad. But at the end of the day we are going to be okay. They get community will always stick together no matter what. I wish that the female community has the same energy as the gay community. Because if you keep it real keep it 100. It'd be women who set back other women. Y'all be ready to talk about each other on a drop of a dime. God can't stand for another female to get something better or bigger than you. I mean we can talk if we want to talk. But stop being rude trying to include all gay people in what he is saying because we all do not think like him.
@@krystaldouglas1305 I’m not sure who you are talking to or mad at but no one in this comment thread said anything derogatory about gay men. You may want to put this comment elsewhere.
That's the problem. Feminity isn't a "trend." I agree with everything Claudia said.
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Claudia please keep it coming you are power house woman you sure gave it to them right to the Head. It's like teaching a child how to ride a bike and once they get the rhythm of how riding bike works they now running around saying I'm doing a better than she did yeah how you doing it better yet you learned all the tricks and out of my sleeves. The problem with gay people is they have to make everything they find a trend and push their agenda on society when it really for natural women it just comes natural they don't have to overboard anything but be themselves because they were naturally designed that way.
They emulate femininity, you are femininity. You have a birth right nobody can tell you shit neither. 🤷🏾♂️
That's RIGHT, it's inherently our Divine Nature!!!
This part!!!!!! Never has been. Women has been women forever and our divine nature came with it. Grandmother and mother taught us how to walk in it. Men getting in and making fun fashions with what we had going is cute, but it's not perfecting us. Yall remember when women started doing their makeup heavier which I know some tricks they learned from drag queens? I told myself it's going to become a problem sooner or later. And look at this.
Claudia said what needed to be said!!!!
I don’t agree
The beat face
Wigs ! Lace . Cliff showed us that much 😇I’m over it
Boundaries and Trauma is the main reason for this behavior. Stop rewarding these awful people/ bullies . Also, why is this awful person given a platform to hate?
And I concur.
Yessssssssss, Claudia.......
@@ANNAMARIE_FYB33 who's cliff?
Thank you Claudia. Cause I was about to light this comment section up. There is no competition here and you cannot perfect what you were not created to be. Womanhood and Femininity are about more than clothing, hair, make-up and mannerisms. Yes, we are called to love one another, and how we treat one another is a whole other round table discussion, but I will not be disrespected.
It's obvious Gay men are angry at femininity. Somewhere along the way, they schemed and plotted to try to get revenge against Women. For a man to say, I can do it better than women. Then perverted BET gives this foolishness the stage. Mr. Salsa running around thinking he can do it better than Women. Speaks volumes of hate within that individual. Plus ain't NOTHING sexy about a man with a mustache and butt implants! 😠
🗣️ Claudia said what she said, PERIOD! And I'm about to say what I got to say... 🗣️ *WE ARE WHAT Y'ALL WANT TO BE! WE ARE FEMINISM! WE ARE WOMEN! WE HAVE THE BODY PARTS Y'ALL WISH Y'ALL WE'RE BORN WITH! WE ARE COMFY IN OUR SKIN WHERE'S AS YOU'RE NOT BECAUSE Y'ALL STAY TRYING TO BE LIKE US, LOW-KEY COMPETE WITH US AND TRANSITION INTO US, WHEN THERE'S NO COMPETITION! WE ARE IT! THE BLUE PRINT OF FEMINISM! CAN'T NO MAN "OUT WOMAN" US! WE ARE WOMEN!! WE WERE BORN LIKE THIS! WE WAKE UP LIKE THIS! THERE'S NOT 1 GAY MAN OR LGBTQIA MAN THAT I'M INTERESTED IN BEING LIKE OR THAT I GET ANY IDEAS FROM! IF WOMEN DIDN'T EXIST THERE WOULDN'T BE A BLUEPRINT FOR FEMINISM, REMEMBER THAT!*
Well said👏👏👏
@@angiemarr3529 thanks 😉💜
I’m so tired of everyone trying to disrespect Black Women
black women disrespect trans women
Amen
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Me too why won't they just leave us tf alone 😤
Y'all women need to keep it cute. Because not all of us gay people is in agreement with him. But keep on now we get to see your true colors. Let me find out y'all just wanted something to go off on. If you don't like gay people just say it it's okay. But we still wouldn't care. Y'all want to be hurt so bad it's sad. But at the end of the day we are going to be okay. They get community will always stick together no matter what. I wish that the female community has the same energy as the gay community. Because if you keep it real keep it 100. It'd be women who set back other women. Y'all be ready to talk about each other on a drop of a dime. God can't stand for another female to get something better or bigger than you. I mean we can talk if we want to talk. But stop being rude trying to include all gay people in what he is saying because we all do not think like him.
Claudia, it needed to be said 👏🏽 “we don’t need you, but we want you”, “we give you space that doesn’t exist with toxic masculinity” yes!!
Why is masculinity automatically toxic? True masculinity respects and honors true femininity...
I rather feel needed.
Peope complain about "toxic" masculinity yet many LGBTQ behavior is toxic. Hypocrisy.
An that’s exactly why they handling yall azz like this😂The lack of masculinity present leaves room for them to BULLY you all
I agree with Claudia 100%!!!!
AND I have NEVA agreed with Claudia 💯 and I will NEVA admit it again...getcha screen shots now! 🤫
Claudia elegantly and tactfully gave both AL and Funky a much needed reality check. Go Claudia...
I agree with Claudia. Unfortunately the lines are becoming blurred and I think some are confused. A comment was made about competing for space. A man can not compete with a natural born woman for women's space no matter the style of dress, wig, makeup, whatever. At the end of the day Black people need to quit competing against each other in a negative way, and help pull each other up.
Claudia is the worst example for BW🤦🏽♀️ y’all so ignorant
And I 💯 agree with funky
Yes Claudia!!! Femininity and womanhood is more than just make up, nails and clothes. I agree that gay black men are responsible for a lot of trends that are commercialized but some of these trends in my opinion, are not flattering on women. We have opened spaces for gay black men and it sucks that we get disrespect in return.
My mother taught me how to be a woman, a true woman. I watched her do her hair, and her makeup. I saw her get dressed and didn't have to tuck anything(no shade. She was the one the taught me how to love myself first, because she was a single mother. I learned from other black women on RUclips about makeup and hair textures. I researched and studied the rest. Yes I have watched some beautiful black men do their makeup and some I even subscribe to, but I haven't learned anything that I wasn't taught, but I can appreciate watching them.
Thank you Claudia, I have never looked to a gay man for my femininity, Dorothy Dandridge, Diana Ross, Nancy Wilson, Diane Carroll, Lena Horne, Whitney Houston, Halle Berry, Phylicia Rashad, Angela Bassett, I can go on and on. There are also white women I could name, before a man.
Exactly!
And all of these icons that you name a lot of gay men actually portray them in some of their shows like the Diana Ross and Dorothy Dandridge. Drag shows are based off of famous women well how is it that gay men have told us how to be feminine and how is it that we're mimicking them? I'm confused. Even a gay man's gestures are that of like a woman men don't flooded their eyes and have a switch to when they walk in thrusting their hips side to side in a feminine manner men don't do that women do that to lure men into their trap so I don't know what saucy is talking about 🤣🤣
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HELLO!!!!
And what’s funnier is that a lot of ghey m3n also looked to those very same wom3n. Are they doing glam better than vintage blk Hollywood?! Absolutely not!
That's pure bs gay men DON'T define femininity . This is sexism at it finest.
right!!!
Men decide they can define what femininity is…like really??!
Yes! It's giving Toxic Masculinity to me!
Thank you!!!
CLAUDIA spoke the truth and did not spare the devil.
They are confused it sad.
The truth will set you free
Y'all women need to keep it cute. Because not all of us gay people is in agreement with him. But keep on now we get to see your true colors. Let me find out y'all just wanted something to go off on. If you don't like gay people just say it it's okay. But we still wouldn't care. Y'all want to be hurt so bad it's sad. But at the end of the day we are going to be okay. They get community will always stick together no matter what. I wish that the female community has the same energy as the gay community. Because if you keep it real keep it 100. It'd be women who set back other women. Y'all be ready to talk about each other on a drop of a dime. God can't stand for another female to get something better or bigger than you. I mean we can talk if we want to talk. But stop being rude trying to include all gay people in what he is saying because we all do not think like him.
@@krystaldouglas1305, no one is including all gays. Believe me if I had an issue with gay men, I would speak on it. All I am saying is that Claudia told the truth. We need to have an open dialogue when neither party is dogging out each other. Not all black women play victim ot want to see a sister doing bad. Saucy has been saying a lot of things that people don't agree with.
Claudia, thank you for speaking so eloquently. I learned about being a woman from my mother, aunts, teachers, Sunday School teachers, Camp Fire Girl leaders, and other women in my community. You always speak up for black women. I would like to see you have a show or podcast with just you. I look forward to hearing your thoughts on the show’s topics every Wednesday and Friday. Keep up the great work. Bravo to you.
Im telling you. And everyone isn't a stereotype of what a woman is.
I feel like Que's response showed some of his own gay privilege. As a black woman we are STILL out here fighting for our rights. We are still overlooked and gay rights does not equal black women rights. We're still waiting for ours.
I think it is incendiary to think that you (or any black gay man) can wear makeup and wigs and teach me something about being a woman. Love this show but Que you were off on this one.
What rights?
Where in the US did they declare that Black women did NOT have rights?
This is a FREE country.
You're not in a third world country.
Please get over yourself.
I totally agree💯
'The gays' over exaggerate real femininity. Claudia was so on point as usual🤷🏽♀️
Thats it, not thee inherent, natural, divine femininity that God bestowed in a beautiful, sexy woman, the gay man's thespian antics of femininity is just that, OVER EXAGGERATED FEMININITY, PERIOD, POINT BLANK, YOU HIT THAT NAIL DIRECTLY ON THE HEAD!!!
Exactly!!
💯 👏🏾 this!
Whew, that part, overdoing the make up, dressing etc
If he feels that way, ask his momma who taught him how to be a " woman" without knowing it. Knock it off. I'm sick of him.
Good point. 💄
Exactly 🤷🏽♀️
😂😂😂 he gettin his time chile! You know the shock value to be famous. I just want these young people to be careful and respectful of women.
Preach!!!!! This right here!!!!
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Claudia, “A man will never be the blueprint on femininity.” Truth…. I got being a lady from my grandmother and other ultra feminine women in my life growing up! No matter what a man does he can never be a woman or teach me anything about what I was born as…. Point Blank Period with ALL the shade!
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@@KamalaHarris2024 you can post this as many times as you want... the facts are, one is the truth... and the other is an offensive declaration that is dipped in unwarranted arrogance. It also widens the divide between us. Stop labeling people not agreeing with every single opinion as homophobia. It's bogus as hell. There are people from the LGBTQAI+ community that also disagrees with that bs. Are they homophobic too? Or nah, their called (pick me's) right? "Where the hypocrites at? What community feels they're the only one's relevant?"
Exactly!!!
@@KamalaHarris2024 no body scared of a gay person, a sad situation!!
Exactly
The point everyone is missing is that make up, glam and playing dress up does NOT define a woman! A woman is far more than playing pretty! Because he can dress up, switch when he walks, and mimic OUR moves but he will NEVER, EVER know what Woman the Mother of ALL men go through, feel, or truly experience. We GIVE life. They can learn to do certain things but you could never be us. Ever.
CLAUDIA SHUT IT DOWN AND REMINDED EVERYONE, WHAT IT REALLY IS!!! Period!!! 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💯💯💯
Black gay men gone turn around and finally have NO ONE to hold them up. 💅🏾💅🏾💅🏾 We have obviously made them so comfortable that they no longer admire and respect us like they used to, and now they asses feel SUPERIOR to us now!!! BIG PROBLEM!!!
Must EVERYTHING be a competition?!?!?!?
I agree. They are just as bad as sexist straight black men.
Im good. Steve Jobs and Bill Gates hold me up just fine. You can thank a married gay couple for your Internet.
Baebeee! She said a word….well said Claudia!
She did that
COME ON CLAUDIA!!!!! WELL SPOKEN!!! ON POINT FEEDBACK!!!
As black people, why are we so quick to put one another down and segregated within the community? We are the only ones who haven't learned the art of sticking together..."community". It is sickening! WE MUST DO BETTER AS A WHOLE!
@@KamalaHarris2024 phobia is a fear. Many people don't fear homosexual people. The issue is how gay men are trying to pretend as biological women don't exist without them. As stated by the original post we should co exist not compete. We women created the blueprint on feminity then gay men came and pressed copy, paste, went to photo shop and ramped it up to adjust their look to match what we do regularly. So no one is scared of homosexuals the issue is don't knock what copied then call it original.
How're you saying that in this episode especially after the recent Smith incident or even Monique🤔WE wouldn't stfu for nothing about it!!! But heyyyyyyyyyyy my people😁
This type of segregated behavior is from our history. We must do better.
Other communities do this as well. They gay community in other populations would NEVER do this to their race of women... well white guys do...but besides them.... instead... the trend is to attack black women. Every groups of guys take all of their aggression on bw. They do it because black guys sat the blue print for all other gays..guys... They attack bw... therefore they feel they should also attack bw. I notice black gay men do not address the racist issues in their communities.
@@KamalaHarris2024 So did james brown. I think the difference is that he really was making a statement.
I don’t take any man serious that got a BBL & a beard w/contouring on his face! Chile please😂 He’s a walking freak-show🧟♂️🧟🧟♀️
Exactly!!!! Whatever that is
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Agreed
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A whole mess
As black gay man myself I have this to say....... CLAUDIA JORDAN SET THIS ISH ON 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥. LOL Saucy and Funky you both were out of line, a student can NEVER say he created or perfected or is better than the creator and the Teacher, think about that for a second.
My brother is gay and I love him to death. He is a stylist and is d**n good at what he does. With that said I have learned EVERYTHING I am from my grandmothers, mama, and aunts!
As a feminine black gay male. Im team Claudia on this one. I love me some Santana but he's been talking to much for me. Just go on stage. Do ya songs, tell the crowd to wave their hands in the air. And leave. All that extra is uncalled for
trump fault? maybe he no like the gay? i dont know sorry
Yessss 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Thank you Claudia nicely said.
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@James Duke why are u shaking your head?
Claudia, I must give you kudos for keeping it real.👏👏👏
Saucy Santana is so full of mouth and out of pocket.💯
Yes @ this point he just need to stop talking.
CLAUDIA is 100%!!!!!! ACCURATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Claudia thank you for ALWAYS standing up for the women!
Way to go Claudia well said I enjoyed the commentary thanks for sharing happy Friday🎉💕💕💕💕
Claudia hit it right on the head it’s a MUTUAL DISRESPECT when tempers flair, so Funky stop acting like it’s one sided like black gay men sit in the corner saying nothing while being “verbally abused” by black woman, it takes 2 but ultimately we have each other’s back in most cases!
@@blkcoverboy1049 I think it's the idea that when you're mad, you go for the most hurtful thing to tear down another person. Black women may go for dissing the sexuality since it's an easy target. It can get disgusting throwing out aids and other demented comments (reference Khia). I've seen black men go low as well with the "that's why your baby daddy ain't shit, that's why you're broke, or your kids are bad". It's a mutual disrespect and let's be honest in the black community we can be vicious with our tongues to loved ones trying to cut each other down bad.
@@blkcoverboy1049 What’s the difference between a gay man calling a woman a hoe and a woman calling a gay man a gay slur
@@sierramcclary2897 No difference at all. Both are disgusting and disrespectful.
@@blkcoverboy1049 That's only because most of them are trying to be women and compete for the same men so it would be silly to attack a woman's sexuality.
@@blkcoverboy1049 but he will call her all kinds of misogynistic slurs. You can’t call women bi$hes, hoe$ and every other disrespectful misogynistic term and then play victim when they respond.
I stand with Claudia. She stated facts. Of course gay men are able to do what women do because again their MEN! they have always been given rights that women have never had. So we definitely should not discredit or take away from women.
@@KamalaHarris2024 women give birth to the world, so of course they are ruling the world, they can control us through their sexuality and that is a fact all around the world.
Without women there is no life. 🙄
And if don't know, that is their superpower toward men, you are living in a gay land full of fantasy🙄🙄🙄
@@KamalaHarris2024 I don't think anyone has a problem with the statement gays rule the world. Its the statement that we need gays to do what we already have been doing. It's disrespectful.
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The hand that rock the cradle rules the world. Remember that.
Thank you Claudia for setting it straight!!!
I HAVE NEVERRRR WANTED TO BORROW SHIT FROM A GAY MAN, not a thought 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜I loveeeeee Claudia’s response 💜💜💜💜💜 thank you 🙏🏾
I have never went to a gay man for anything. Not to learn makeup, babysit Etc. He’s taking a small group of woman and saying it’s ALL! It’s bad enough trans woman want us to stop calling ourselves woman at some point this has to stop! Guess when apart of the community that can’t be canceled you can say anything.
CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT TREND DID GAY BLACK MEN TEACH BLACK WOMEN?? AND HOW IS A WHOLE ASS NIGGAH.. MORE FEMININE THAN A WOMAN?? and please don't delete this comment like yall been doing. Let the people speak..
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Look at yall A list stars 🌟
@@dbvavadb3563 Drake, Beyonce, Kim Kardadhian, Rhianna... and so on what about them??
Number one thing is makeup,
WHAT CLAUDIA SAID!!!!!🗣
Claudia sitting there looking naturally gorgeous telling the whole truth. There is a female celebrity niche that allow their faces to be masked by a full beat to the gods look with severe contouring and heavy makeup previously only seen on performance stages. However, the majority of black woman wear moisturized fresh faces with very little (if any) makeup so our natural beauty is seen and appreciated, not a man made mask.
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FACTS,
I am a multiracial Afro-Caribbean gay man. I agree 💯 with what Claudia said. The part that I also agree with my gay brothers is how our sexuality has been used as a way to insult others. So, we as black gay men (SOME) need to stop this weird attempt to "outshine" black women b/c it will NEVER happen. And, for our beautiful sisters. We humbly ask to be mindful & for those who do it, please don't use our sexuality as an insult. I love you all.
Black women are the inspiration for EVERYBODY. However because our beauty is consistently diminished appropriated and re-introduced our own need for sisterhood validation and acceptance is so great that we have turned over our *Majic* to gay men ……they feature all things rooted in fabulousness that is ours !
Ain’t no man ever gonna out woman me. I hear you Claudia !!!
Nobody roots harder for the gays than us , nobody has practiced greater love respect and acceptance than black woman.
Saucy is mad at his mama ….
As black women divest from straight black men and open up our dating options, we should also divest from gay black men. They have the same mindset:humble or get rid of the black woman. Baby we are the BLUEPRINT! Trying to be a woman and being a woman are two DIFFERENT things! You’re ketchup in a bottle, preservatives and chemicals added. I am the tomato, grown and plucked off the vine, ripened naturally by the sun, natural and whole. We will NEVER be the same.
You said a whole lot 👌🏾
You are a Queen and the TRUTH 💝
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👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 All of the tomatoes 🍅🍅🍅🍅
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Preach Claudia ❣️ Preach ❣️ No shade just facts. ❤️❤️❤️❤️ No love lost.
@@KamalaHarris2024 ...SMH 🐝
Zulu swashbuckler.
Staygolden I always had a problem with that damn song as a man not because I was threatened by a strong successful independent assertive woman especially not a black woman but because that was taken it to damn for...I mean t.l.c. song no scrubs I sampley ignored but that song but because it was Beyonce people she could do no wrong and the dudes didn't have the stones to call her out because they didn't want to look sexist or because it was Beyonce they let her go unchecked🤷🏿♂️
Saucie Santa said also that women could learn something from gays about being feminint with is bullshite a gay man in emphasis on the word man can't teach a woman how feminint just like a woman can't teach a man how to be masculine🗣‼️
Oooooh I’m soooo glad Claudia did not sugarcoat her answer. She said what needed to be said 💯
@@KamalaHarris2024 lol if you really knew me, homophobic would not be the name you chose to call me, so I’m not even going to take offense to that. You’re also comparing apples to oranges in my opinion. Beyoncé said women run the world which is actually true in my opinion even down to the point that women are the original blueprint for gay men. The problem with Santana is he bashed a whole gender that he is emulating. Beyoncé never did that. He could have said gays run the world if that’s how he feels and left it at that. Just because someone disagrees with a gay person does not make them homophobic. Go off though lol
Claudia gave it raw no chaser.... as needed!!!! NOTHING WILL EVER BE BETTER THAN AN ORIGINAL. PERIODT.
WELL said 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾Thank you Claudia .
I don't think so Gays... We have nothing in common.
When it comes to self hate, why imitate and emulate, and simulate who you "hate on" the most? Born a woman and rose up on my throne, been a woman adjust my crown and in the afterlife a womb still will be found💯
Sis that was a whole WORD
I agree Claudia! You're TOTALLY right ma'am 🤎🤎🤎🙌🏾💅🏾 Us gay men add to the creativity of femininity, that's all, that's it! 🤷🏾♂️ We can NEVER relate to females internally.
The gays just over simplify a woman's demeanor. Too extra, just be a man and stop trying to be extraordinary ❤️
Just because someone is good at putting a couple of outfits together and combing hair does not mean they add creativity to femininity because without those things I'm still a feminine women the energy is from within.
@@youknowwhatflav9916 Girl don't try to discredit our creativity! Don't forget the majority of these high-end clothing designers is gay, and the majority of our choreographers and hair stylist for celebrities, is gay. Listen to Beyonce new single, You Can't Break My Soul! Get into it! 🌈
@@onlyonejabari there's no denying in the industry the gays dominate but in real life foh with that
@@youknowwhatflav9916 With what???
One thing about a woman honey, we were born female. He will never duplicate the real
Well aren’t you a scholar
As a straight Black man, I’m glad Claudia spoke up because this panel was spewing complete trash before and after she spoke. There should’ve been even 2 straight Black women to defend the truth equally.
Exactly
Lord now gay people have to work another 50 years to win back the people
Exactly usually Al an que are on point with their comments. I have absolutely nothing against gay men but they are not the blueprint for woman. Lol. It’s a very odd way of thinking
Why though? This topic has nothing to do with you straight Black men. It’s between Black women and gay Black men.
Claudia called you toxic and you taking up for her? 😂
As a black woman, our physical attributes are a microcosm of all the things we are. Our looks are a grain of sand on the beach that makes up our femininity. Our wombs have birthed nations, our breasts have fed everyone's children, our arms comfort anyone in need, our backs have been the foundation for this country, our blood, sweat and tears have been the life blood of the world. Our pain and ability to invent something out of nothing has fueled invention. Even at our worst, we've given our best. Our femininity is too complex to be explained away by trends, exagerrated or not, elevated or not. All of this without the influence of ANYONE else but those women who came before us and our internal roadmap...our poets, singers, models, actresses, lawyers, doctors, scientists, etc are the examples of the wide array of our femininity.... Claudia Said what needed to be said. Besides, you can't compete where you don't compare.
Claudia better preach! Baby, she really spoke for Black women and articulated her points well.
BOOM, Claudia! I’m a 55 year old BW that had a Black mother, 2 Black Grandmother’s and oodles of Black aunties that taught me, so Saucy sat down!
Thank you Claudia for keeping it💯
There is no way in hell that a gay man or even straight man for that matter, can tell a woman how to be a woman! And l hate the term cis-woman/ women. I am a woman PERIOD!
Thank you that cis is annoying to a born woman!
FACTS!!!!!!!
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The term cisgender is usually used in textbooks/psychology studying trans ppl now everybody wanna use it to label what we already know
I just became a super Claudia fan !!!!!! For the first time. I ain't never agreed with more 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
@@KamalaHarris2024 Stop spamming the comments because you're in the wrong. 🙄
@@KamalaHarris2024 I'm not homophobic
Me too!
No lie, for a long time I was not a fan of Claudia but sis has been laying it down on her show and I am here for it!!! Everything she said and more!!!! 💯💯💯
Speak Claudia! I’m going to tell you the truth I was not the biggest fan of yours before but I am going to watch you every time now because I respect that you stood up because there are a lot of times when we women are not really standing up to gay men because to be truthful about it sometimes were scared of the backlash when we do speak against the gay and trans community. I love many of my gay men and i have a trans daughter but the truth is the truth. We as women are the blueprint of all WOMEN. Let’s not forget that all people gay or straight, born a woman or trans woman came from a woman!
We can also talk about how some gay men exploit the loneliness of some rich women. So they use them as accessories and they use them for access to $$ and lifestyle. Everyone can do better.
Ooooop!!
This one!!
This is where we are when a man is going to say they are able to out "woman" a woman. Can you imagine if a lesbian said that about men?
A lot of studs have.that mentality, actually, since their "dicks" don't give out like ours do (eventually)
Valid!!!!
OMG YES! 💯 Best comment… 👏🏾
This!
When you wear makeup, women clothes, weaves and go through these drastic surgeries to look like a woman, that means The women is the blueprint. It’s no in between, Rather you think a man does it better, the point is our black women is and will always be the blueprint. If a woman doesn’t conceive then how can the (blank) man get here to show a woman he can do it better. This the type of Claudia I like to see. One thing I notice, she will protect black women when she feel their disrespected and I think she’s good at it
Can a wo(man) get here without sperm? Were men wearing dresses, makeup, jewelry, wigs in ancient times? It’s not a new invention for men or women but woman wearing pants, shorts and button down shirts is a recent phenomenon.
Thank you, Claudia!!!! Well SAID!!!!
I'm with Claudia on this one. I'll give gay men credit where its due however the disrespect is a no. I've had the most disrespect from gay black men, but always find myself defending one. At this point I try to stay away altogether all love though 💜
Claudia has never been so right!!
REAL TALK... Well said Claudia Jordan, well said!♥️✌🏿💪🏿🌹
Go awf Claudia!!!!! I for damn sure don't learn my feminity from a gay man.
Thank you Claudia for saying what needed to be said even amongst the company to your left and right. That's integrity and you spoke the absolute truth. I could've said it better!
Claudia laid me out and I'm a woman a female with natural estrogen and progesterone the shit that make you sultry curvy soft you know womanly. Yo feelings gone stay hurt if you trying to be something you not.
Go Claudia!
Claudia be holdin it down.....
I agree with Claudia, this us vs them need’s to not to continue, because both groups have toxic relationships with heterosexual BM, and we’re all we got . Saucy slapped BW in the face , I want him to win, but he’s not with this type of behavior. Real talk , that language reminds me of the toxic-hate we get from BM all over social media , and Saucy’s still a BM,,, never forget that ladies .
I get what you saying and absolutely right regarding Saucy but there is ignorance in all groups even black women. There are black women that are very toxic, homophobic, and can be just as bad as bm even regarding other black women. I've seen this first hand with rape allegations and leaving black girls unprotected to protect a bm. The best we can do is check those bad behaviors and not subscribe to this in-group/out-group dynamic.
@@dariusd2003 Black women aren't getting on stage saying we better than gay men. We are competing or trying to compare with gay men. There is no comparison. We simply embrace gay men and it's being flipped as tho we need them somehow. Gay men talk BAD about women. I've heard it. Let's not.
Al, I beg to differ. I’m a black woman, I didn’t know any gay black men when I was growing up. Like Claudia, my femininity came from watching my mother, aunts, teachers, pastor’s wives.🤷🏾♀️ I disagree Funky Dineva.🤷🏾♀️
Claudia needs a standing ovation!!!. 🙌👏👏
Thank you Claudia! Why do some gays assume that every black woman has a male gay black friend? We don’t lol…
THIS because not all of us do. And for them to act like it's a one way thing when it comes to two faced ppl is a joke. They do it just as much as bw and that's a fact. Hell Saucy doing it to all black women is what has this discussion going.
bc of housewives of Atlanta
Right. I don't.
Thank you. I take nothing from them and have nothing to do with them....period. I have none as friends nor enemies.
Or follow gay fashion. Some of these flamboyant men that supposedly we are copying or oversaturated are extremely exaggerated and I'm a natural born female and I don't act like that. Yeah!!!
I never knew I liked Claudia so much... I’m just realizing it lately.. she is smart and sensible, my type of girl.. I wanna be her fran 😹😹😹
Thank you!!!!!!
Thats how I feel as of late, maybe its because she finally got her own space to shine! ❤
@@claudiajordanreal thank you so much Claudia 🌹🌹🌹Everything you said was on point 👏👏👏
Saucy acting just like a man. Misogyny can cone from many places.
Saucy Santana is a perfect example of why the music/entertainment industry still needs gatekeepers. Everyone getting a record deal after posting a Tiktok dance or singing a demo is getting out of hand!
FACTS. Every average NOBODY with a gimmick has an audience now.
As a heterosexual black woman, I do, at times, feel disrespected by gay men. It does feels uneven when it comes to respect. Now, to what Funky said about how black women disrespect black gay men is true but here's the thing: I feel that a gay black man would be so quick to disrespect a black woman than a heterosexual black man. For example, Lil Boosie, I don't hear the gay men talk about his hair, or his clothes, or his appearance in general. The only thing that they may talk about is his music (maybe). Now, Kim Burrell on the other hand, they came for her edges, her weight, her clothes.....the level of "comebacks" definitely not the same between hetero women and men. Now, what Kim and Lil Boosie has said was wrong but I want gay men to keep the same energy when it comes to disrespect, regardless of who it comes from.
Very good point.
First of all, KUDOS to the CORRECT punctuation...LOVE IT! Secondly, you are so correct!! They really let Kim Burrell have it, but to that, not saying she is right, Kim Burrell was raised in church, and many churches preach(ed) that "homosexuality is bad" and will "send you straight (no pun intented) to the fires of HELL". When you're raised like that, it can be hard to break away from that mindset. I was raised in a strict Pentecostal home, and it wasn't until I became an adult and created friendships with gay people, that my mindframe changed. Now, I know that love is love and it DOES NOT matter who you get it from.
Very good point!
Women have always loved and accepted gays even when straight men have shunned gays ,cant believe saucy santana said that nonsense
Guys called Boosie all kinds of things. Ragged on his whole look. Gays get disrespectful horribly by women when she gets mad. So gays do clap back. Thats a normal reaction. Guays have fought heterosexual hating males all their lives. I've definitely seen women disrespect gays and turn on them quick
Claudia you better go👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
She said that!!!!
Claudia! Thanks for sticking up and at the same time being fair.
Thank you Claudia for making sense. Culture, norms and roles can be duplicated, yo mamma, grandmamma, auntie, ovaries and fallopian tubes cannot. The men on this panel were REACHING!!!! Why do gay Black men have to disrespect what women have always brought to this life, in order to walk in pride or self confidence. If love ain't in it, it ain't right!!!!
Claudia as a Woman THANK YOU FOR HAVING OUR BACKS!!!!!!!
The gays ain't redefined sh*t for me. This is some effd up stuff! Thank you Claudia.
Everybody wanna replace the Black woman... Black women this is more reason for US to be mindful of our self hatred and envy towards one another and LEARN to stick together again!👑👑👑👑👑👑👑👑👑
Back in the 90s everybody knew their place and stayed in their lane. Claudia you are correct and we do support the community.
Thank you!!!!!! Claudia!!!!! We love tf out of y’all ❤❤❤❤
Gay does not mean feminine. Saying that is problematic and putting a group of people in a box is reinforcing stereotypes. Gay men are still men. To add, Saucy Santana said publicly that straight men respect him.
Lmao as Funky got quiet ASF. Claudia, yes maam, yes maam. In the words of Claudia- "Get the hell out of here with that". Lol
Funky got quiet to let Claudia speak, all three of them had valid points whether it fits your narrative or not
@@aaronb127 oh for sure! I love Funky - hes just not speechless a lot. Lol. But he did say he was going to catch heat for what he was about to say.
@@aaronb127 thank you!
Thank you , Claudia! Women ARE the blueprint. Saucy worded it exactly how he meant it. I’m an older woman who has always loved and respected the community. And the community has respected me. However, there has always been an undercurrent of jealousy and competition from some of the LGBTQ community. I do understand it, but It’s not right.
They hate you.
Claudia dropped the mic!! It needed to be said.
Tell them girl they lose themselves and have forgotten their places. She said it in a nice way
Thank you Claudia round of 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
As a gay, black man, it is clear to me that women get their cues on femininity from other women. Some gay men may provide enhancements or an exaggerated take on the idea of femininity or style and some women may adapt their presentation, accordingly.
I agree
@nathaniel...I agree
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I agree. I feel like it’s more of an exchange between gay men and women
I've seen some rough women out their with not much femininity or wardrobe appearance. Gays definitely helped some women connect with their feminine side. I think the problem is everyone is talking in general and as a whole, instead of saying "some".