Another kerosene equipment that my father teached me to maintain and operate! I was fourteen years old! And now I am sixty! Foul of emotions and memories again!
@AllUnique Fashion Yes. I understand. “Petroleum oil” is what we call “heating oil” in the United States. It is a lower grade of fuel that does not burn as well or as cleanly as kerosene fuel. Petroleum oil will cause more soot and will coke up (clog) burners rather quickly over time. In the "Third World", where poverty is still rampant and education is spotty or non-existent, “petroleum oil/heating oil” is likely to be a less expensive fuel source used for home cooking by the poor and ignorant with these sorts of stoves - stoves that were designed for and are intended to be used kerosene. Just because people do a thing doesn’t mean it’s “right” or the “best choice”, I’m sure you’ll agree. It’s always best practice to use the proper fuel for the stove whenever possible. Use water-clear 1-K grade kerosene (the proper and intended fuel) exclusively and at all times for best performance and longest stove life. BD
Hi Bernie can u please tell me the difference between an alcohol yet from a kerosene yet? Im just wondering, im not trying to be a smart alec. Thank you in advance and great video.
Yes, I can tell you that.The alcohol jet has a jet hole in it that is a lot bigger than the jet hole in a kerosene jet - a bit more than twice as big, in fact. This is because there is not very much energy in alcohol compared to kerosene, so you need lots more alcohol vapor coming out of the jet to get the same amount of flame as a kerosene stove jet. Sometimes the alcohol jets will have a little "A" stamped right next to the jet hole which can make them easier to identify, but sometimes not. Using alcohol means you have to tote lots more fuel around to get the same work done as kerosene. Thanks on the video. 👍BD
Hi bernie, I have a recent 1960's large german military stove (Geniol?) look very much like the larger version of the Primius 111 with the "silent" burner rather then the "roarer" version...it says inside in German “Do not fill with Benzin. Only for diesel and petroleum.” ?? Does Benzin mean regular automotive gasoline? Does "petroleum" in Europe mean Kerosene?
The Geniol instructions say not to use gasoline or naphtha (aka Coleman fuel). "Benzin" means gasoline - don't use that. Please use only high quality water-white kerosene (called "petroleum" in some EU countries) in the Geniol military stoves.
Nice stove. I have a optimus 96 kerosene stove, after priming I pump it up a few times and the whole thing burst into flames with kerosene leaking out of the nipple? I wonder if you know what's the problem with it. Thanks you, if you can help.
I have a couple of "how-to-light-your-stove" videos on my channel. Here's one: ruclips.net/video/Z_zRgcmSWh0/видео.html Here's another: ruclips.net/video/9Y1sTEiBU7I/видео.html If you watch those and still have problems, just drop an email to berniedawgstove@comcast.net . We'll get you squared away.
The whole point of using denatured alcohol for fuel is that all you have to do is simply pour water unto it and it goes out. You can not do that with kerosene it will just burn on top of the water.
The *whole point*, Andrew Armstrong?? Well, perhaps for some American boat owners, that would be the "whole point". And, yes, what you say is true - denatured alcohol can be extinguished with water. Especially in bilges. But, for those who lived in Sweden and worked in the Swedish stove-building industry during WWII years under Swedens odd “neutrality”, the more important *point* behind the development of alcohol burners was that petroleum fuels were not available. Those petroleum fuels were unavailable due to Allied blockade of North Sea shipping and Axis use of petroleum fuels for their war machine. Hence, the development in Sweden of alcohol burners like the modified example I discuss in this video. Alcohol burners were developed, manufactured, sold and used during the war years to cook and heat - in some cases as a matter of survival. Post-WWII, leftover caches of these burners found their way into the marine yachting stoves in the newly prosperous USA where they provided a safer alternative to kerosene use on board. So, not really “the whole point”, you see now. BD
Mr.Berniedog I have a Kerosene Kenyon Marine stove and oven. I have been looking for information,diagrams, & parts on the stove but have been unsuccessful. I was wondering if you can please help me or point me in the right direction if there is any for this kerosene Animal.👍🏼 It’s Missing: 1. One of the outside burner cap 2. Fuel tank? (Don’t if know if it comes with one) 3.Looking for kerosene jets 4. Basic info And loving all music and videos!!! Keep it Burning!!! 🤙🏼
Hi Dave This seems like a good topic to discuss via email if you don't mind. Could you please kindly contact me via email at: berniedawgstove@comcast.net ? Thanks! BD
Have you seen this Butterfly 2412 Brass Pressurized Kerosene stove with a cap? Links in video are not quite right and it is from 2010-ish. Looks like the Butterfly stove manufacturer got their hands on a cap at one point and were selling a few until they ran out of stock. I like the 2412 because you can seal it up and travel with kerosene in the tank. Perhaps one of your current in production caps might work? I have your BernieDawg DragonTamer 3 for the MSR Dragonfly Stove which is outstanding. Nice to see an intelligent concept brought to production with benevolent intent. Kudo's to you for paying if forward... Here is the video: ruclips.net/video/LpQChxAi4KY/видео.html
The stove you show in your link is a standard silent-burnered stove design. They've been made in this general configuration for over 100 years by various manufacturers. I believe the Butterflys are made in China. Replacement inner and outer silent caps for these and other brands are available from a number of online retailers. My 3D-printed silent cap designs do not fit these sorts of stoves. The stove shown in your video link is performing very poorly. There is either something in need of repair on the stove in the video, or, the user is unfamiliar with proper operation of the stove. Probably poor user technique. Thanks for the cap purchase! :-)
Another kerosene equipment that my father teached me to maintain and operate! I was fourteen years old! And now I am sixty! Foul of emotions and memories again!
Nice burner conversion Gary, enjoyed the adaptability of this one! Cam
Thanks, Cam! I didn't do the conversion, but it sure is pretty neat.
excellent explanation of the stove burner kerosene, diesel and gasoline, already subscribed and like, greetings from venezuela
Thanks! BD
Brilliant video
Many places in overseas still using this type of stove and almost all of the stoves operated with petroleum oil instead of kerosene.
@AllUnique Fashion Yes. I understand. “Petroleum oil” is what we call “heating oil” in the United States. It is a lower grade of fuel that does not burn as well or as cleanly as kerosene fuel. Petroleum oil will cause more soot and will coke up (clog) burners rather quickly over time. In the "Third World", where poverty is still rampant and education is spotty or non-existent, “petroleum oil/heating oil” is likely to be a less expensive fuel source used for home cooking by the poor and ignorant with these sorts of stoves - stoves that were designed for and are intended to be used kerosene. Just because people do a thing doesn’t mean it’s “right” or the “best choice”, I’m sure you’ll agree. It’s always best practice to use the proper fuel for the stove whenever possible. Use water-clear 1-K grade kerosene (the proper and intended fuel) exclusively and at all times for best performance and longest stove life. BD
Really neat. Nice to see how much you know about these types of stoves. Nice. Jules
nice music, great video
Hi Bernie can u please tell me the difference between an alcohol yet from a kerosene yet? Im just wondering, im not trying to be a smart alec. Thank you in advance and great video.
Yes, I can tell you that.The alcohol jet has a jet hole in it that is a lot bigger than the jet hole in a kerosene jet - a bit more than twice as big, in fact. This is because there is not very much energy in alcohol compared to kerosene, so you need lots more alcohol vapor coming out of the jet to get the same amount of flame as a kerosene stove jet. Sometimes the alcohol jets will have a little "A" stamped right next to the jet hole which can make them easier to identify, but sometimes not. Using alcohol means you have to tote lots more fuel around to get the same work done as kerosene. Thanks on the video. 👍BD
Hi bernie, I have a recent 1960's large german military stove (Geniol?) look very much like the larger version of the Primius 111 with the "silent" burner rather then the "roarer" version...it says inside in German “Do not fill with Benzin. Only for diesel and petroleum.” ?? Does Benzin mean regular automotive gasoline? Does "petroleum" in Europe mean Kerosene?
The Geniol instructions say not to use gasoline or naphtha (aka Coleman fuel). "Benzin" means gasoline - don't use that. Please use only high quality water-white kerosene (called "petroleum" in some EU countries) in the Geniol military stoves.
Nice stove. I have a optimus 96 kerosene stove, after priming I pump it up a few times and the whole thing burst into flames with kerosene leaking out of the nipple? I wonder if you know what's the problem with it. Thanks you, if you can help.
I have a couple of "how-to-light-your-stove" videos on my channel.
Here's one: ruclips.net/video/Z_zRgcmSWh0/видео.html
Here's another: ruclips.net/video/9Y1sTEiBU7I/видео.html
If you watch those and still have problems, just drop an email to berniedawgstove@comcast.net . We'll get you squared away.
do you make quiet adapters for the msr dragonfly? how do I contact you ...if you do. thank you
@John Coles Yes. www.berniedawg.com/contact-faqs/ for me. Or, go to the store directly here: www.shapeways.com/shops/berniedawgshop Thanks! BD
The whole point of using denatured alcohol for fuel is that all you have to do is simply pour water unto it and it goes out. You can not do that with kerosene it will just burn on top of the water.
The *whole point*, Andrew Armstrong??
Well, perhaps for some American boat owners, that would be the "whole point". And, yes, what you say is true - denatured alcohol can be extinguished with water. Especially in bilges.
But, for those who lived in Sweden and worked in the Swedish stove-building industry during WWII years under Swedens odd “neutrality”, the more important *point* behind the development of alcohol burners was that petroleum fuels were not available. Those petroleum fuels were unavailable due to Allied blockade of North Sea shipping and Axis use of petroleum fuels for their war machine.
Hence, the development in Sweden of alcohol burners like the modified example I discuss in this video. Alcohol burners were developed, manufactured, sold and used during the war years to cook and heat - in some cases as a matter of survival.
Post-WWII, leftover caches of these burners found their way into the marine yachting stoves in the newly prosperous USA where they provided a safer alternative to kerosene use on board.
So, not really “the whole point”, you see now. BD
@@BernieDawgCinema You learn something new everyday, or you should at least......very informative info, thanks.
Mr.Berniedog
I have a
Kerosene Kenyon Marine stove and oven.
I have been looking for information,diagrams, & parts on the stove
but
have been unsuccessful.
I was wondering if you can please help me or point me in the right direction if there is any for this kerosene Animal.👍🏼
It’s Missing:
1. One of the outside burner cap
2. Fuel tank?
(Don’t if know if it comes with one)
3.Looking for kerosene jets
4. Basic info
And loving all music and videos!!! Keep it Burning!!! 🤙🏼
Hi Dave This seems like a good topic to discuss via email if you don't mind. Could you please kindly contact me via email at: berniedawgstove@comcast.net ? Thanks! BD
What's the diameter of the jet for kerosene?
Around 0.28mm diameter.
Have you seen this Butterfly 2412 Brass Pressurized Kerosene stove with a cap? Links in video are not quite right and it is from 2010-ish. Looks like the Butterfly stove manufacturer got their hands on a cap at one point and were selling a few until they ran out of stock.
I like the 2412 because you can seal it up and travel with kerosene in the tank. Perhaps one of your current in production caps might work?
I have your BernieDawg DragonTamer 3 for the MSR Dragonfly Stove which is outstanding.
Nice to see an intelligent concept brought to production with benevolent intent.
Kudo's to you for paying if forward...
Here is the video:
ruclips.net/video/LpQChxAi4KY/видео.html
The stove you show in your link is a standard silent-burnered stove design. They've been made in this general configuration for over 100 years by various manufacturers. I believe the Butterflys are made in China. Replacement inner and outer silent caps for these and other brands are available from a number of online retailers. My 3D-printed silent cap designs do not fit these sorts of stoves.
The stove shown in your video link is performing very poorly. There is either something in need of repair on the stove in the video, or, the user is unfamiliar with proper operation of the stove. Probably poor user technique.
Thanks for the cap purchase! :-)