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LOL nintendo have softporn tetris games and puzzle games busty japs in bikini's yet violence is a no go nintendo are becoming a laughing stock of the gaming industry
Chapter 3: Sexual Deviants is truly among the most atmospheric and creepy levels ever in a video game. That's the kind of sadistic, brutal but darkly comic tone Rockstar should've gone for as a whole. In a largely forgettable experience, this level is a bonafide masterpiece.
Really? Maybe it's because I'm playing the lackluster Wii version but it felt like a lazy edgy Duke Nukem 3D strip club knock off. I respect your opinion, maybe it's because I'm old now, I liked this game 10 years ago but I just played through that section again and it was kinda eye rolling. Admittedly it's got the most personality in the game, it certainly had an atmosphere whereas the environments in the rest of the game feel pretty generic.
@@Roflcrabs I felt like Manhunt 2 also fell short on the gangs/hunters. In Manhunt 1 the gangs were varied (I also think in their AI behaviors) and usually had like three levels dedicated to them which gave variety. In Manhunt 2 most of the time you're dealing with the Watchdogs/bounty hunters which gets repetitive quick, especially when the game shifts to shooting much earlier in my opinion than in the first game which also doesn't allow you to hear their dialogue.
@@themac7915 oh totally, agreed. Actually I finally finished the game tonight and even though I just complained about the pervs they're sadly the most interesting and distinct enemies in the game.
We can at least be comforted by the fact that as of today, Jack Thompson has been disbarred from practicing law for 14 years, particularly due to making false statements over lawsuits and legal matters he started and attempting to intimidate or humiliate others involved in them. Just goes to show how people like him always ruin their own lives because if their mindstate and rhetoric.
Manhunt 2 definitely is a flaccid experience, in most areas and regularly. You really have no reason to be brutal, and Daniel would probably avoid killing people, instead of going after them. The Pickman idea is not a bad one, but Leo should've been a cold, jingoistic and disciplined soldier, not a sadistic screaming killer, if he really was supposed to be an assassin. I don't blame de devs, most of it seems to have been lot of flak in the backstages and shuffling around. But the game missed a big opportunity to make the Pickman project use Mr. Nasty's footage and films as material for their indoctrination and brainwash. Hell, half the game could be Mr. Nasty and the CIA producing footage for a subject to watch, and be turned into a cold-blooded soldier, that follows what their earpiece tells them to. Even as it was, the game could try to make Leo be appeased by Brutal killings. So you do them to "calm him down" and subside him in Daniel's psyche. But the choreographed twist is the more you do it, the more he becomes stronger and takes control in the end. Just as the brutality in the original Manhunt is incentivized or forced, and after you cut ties with the DIrector, you have no reason to do it anymore, only inertia or sadism at best. In Manhunt 2 you never had a reason, false or real.
I played manhunt as a kid and remember manhunt 2 coming out on halloween back when i was in grade school, my mom was reluctant to the game because of the rating but she prob would never think a game could be so gorey. I remember the kid at gamestop counter gave me looks lol but, i remember how much much i was shitting my pants playing it because it starts off with a bunch of inmates going nutts. 30 years old now and i still grew up pretty normal headded lol, just my love of horror genre deff came from great horror games like re,silent hill, deadspace etc.
I feel like the way this game should've went is like this: Keep leo alive, and have him kill all the people in his path that's in his way to go see pickmen and stop him from running the whole pickmen bridge operation once and for all And have danny kill no one, as seen in gameplay in the beginning of how fearful, resistant, and how he wants to be passive with certain situations, they could've have danny be stealth missions, having him slip past watchdogs, corrupt cops, etc, until he finds all the pieces to restore his memory And maybe for an ending when danny realizes that he was brainwashed and manipulated by pickmen to have a killer in his head that made him kill his wife, he goes out to find danny to kill him and remove him from his life as revenge for what happened to his wife, and then continue the original ending from here where danny wakes up on a road, with documents that tells him his new name and extra info
@@jonnysac77 Some murders could be justified but then you get to kill innocent cops that are just doing their jobs in Ritual Cleasing and Domestic Disturbance, and also that innocent trashman that Danny killed after escaping the asylum, it's ironic that Danny feels guilty for killing the Watchdogs and Pickman who are actually bad people, but the cops who are actually innocent are nowhere to be seen in Personality Clash
@@yunjin909 It's not that he just kills them, he kills them in the most brutal ways imaginable, which made more sense when you were playing as a fucked up guy performing the murders for a snuff porno, not just a normal guy trying to get out of a bad situation
@@jonnysac77 Imo the brutal kills would only make sense if only Leo could perform them considering his background, Danny's levels should have been just about avoiding the hunters, it wouldn't justify the kills but at the very least it would make more sense and it would make the two personalities more distincts in gameplay
I think Leo was written to have a sort of supportive big brother kind of feel while Starkwheather is written to be an employer. Two very different kinds of characters but Starkwheather's dialogue is definitely better written and more darkly humorous while Leo just comes off as edgy and lame.
@@rabbait1308i think your forgetting that leo isn't exactly suppose to be a psychotic killer, he's suppose to be a deadly assassin. Honestly i like this game more than the 1st because of the psychological horror and honestly i really love Daniel lambs story
@@ItsjustBlackJackhere I suppose but I still don't really care for the character. I remember getting annoyed with Leo when I played it but Maybe that'd change if I went back and played manhunt 2 because it's been a few years idk.
21:25 Does he really forget who he is? I thought repeating that he is Daniel Lamb in the end was the reassertion of his real personality, whilst the ending was him simply reading the envelope that had arranged a new identity for him.
In Manhunt 2's defense, even tho it did have more gun focused levels, most of these are completable using the melee stealth kills, at least on the psp version I played, with the exceptions being that Leo flashback level with the sniper rifle and the occasional "shootout" set piece, like the cinema room you mentioned. Still not the smartest decision, since I would prefer guns to be less present in the game, but it does bring back that extra tension of hunting well armed gangmembers and it is better than having all gun focused levels only having guns to use with no melee weapons available (and for those situations you have the gun executions). But overall I agree with you in that Manhunt 2 isn't as good as the first one, even tho its still a game I really enjoy and play from time to time on my psp. it does help that that version doesn't have the weird annoying aiming while maintining the whole "headshots only available when at a closer distance", since it helped maintain the sneaking up close to an armed enemy and then holding the (auto)aim button, instead of the main console version giving you free aiming that isnt actually that free and is more annoying than anything
The scariest part of Manhunt 2 for me was the mission early game (I think the second) where Danny has to search his house and Watchdogs show up while he’s in the basement. Hard to describe without sounding weird but it reminds me of a nightmare I had where I killed someone and police showed up to my house, just the feeling that your life is over if you don’t act quick.
Heavy exposition that also gives you almost no exposition ironically. There is a certain brilliance involved however with Leo’s levels, when you spend the whole game wondering when the experiment went wrong only to realize you’ve been playing it
i remember seeing manhunt on my uncles pc when i was a kid, seeing the main menu and parts of the first level. i remember ever since that manhunt has ALWAYS creeped me out but at the same time left me with a morbid curiosity for the game
I actually really really liked this sequel, as a straight up sequel to the snuff film ring of Manhunt, it was disappointing, but as it’s standalone game, it deserves its Manhunt title. If A Clockwork Orange, Hostel and Fight Club had a baby, it’ll be Manhunt 2. Playing Leo Kasper was great, if there was ever a live action film about this, I always thought Jon Bernthal would make a great Leo Kasper.
I guarantee had they made the version of the game with Frisbee in place of Leo Kasper (despite him still being in the game as a separate person/Project Defector), it not only would’ve been a more engaging story but also opens up significantly more room for Dark Comedy + more Meta stuff more akin to the first game. Although…I honestly would’ve loved to have seen the Religious Fanatic story that was also in contention. It would further put into context some of the cut levels/executions/weapons like the Aztec Sacrifice Altar + the Iron Maiden (still in the final game) from the History Museum and the D*ldo within the Sorority House level that was found within the files as a named Chapter. They could’ve PUSHED THE DAMN ENVELOPE with this premise so hard, we probably wouldn’t have Rockstar around today had they “gone there” But with the MK Ultra version in the final game, while it does make sense and give context for the Hunters basically being test subjects without any humanity left + refuse of the Pickman Project(s), somehow you feel cheated by how much they cut and confused by what was actually left in! Like, for example, “Domestic Disturbance” being the second to last level (or third if you go for the Bad Ending) and it just being Leo running around the Suburbs evading Police and Neighborhood Watch to reach Danny’s Wife…when in the first drafts, it was Level 3 and had you hunting members of the Pickman Project while dispatching the Legion (no Caesar), which was a Hunter Faction still present in the final game…but only in Level 1. They were supposedly going to be a MAJOR Hunter Faction like the Project’s Cleaners, but then completely sidelined…full models for more variants and everything I could go on, but yeah…it was shipped Incomplete AF, but as it is, it’s still a good game that’s caught in the shadow of its original iteration(s)
I want everyone to remember that when Manhunt 2 was shown at E3 the ESRB released a statement that day that the content shown in the demo would warrant an AO rating. Manhunt 2 feels really sloppy in the second half because that’s where a lot of the changes to the story and plot were made. I would say they were going for something more like Outlast and that was a mark almost impossible to hit back in that era of gaming. The amount of violence combined with the context the violence is presented in is something most people couldn’t handle. This is one of the few games that I still think about to this day what it would have been without the ESRB coming down on it so hard so quick
This game has its strengths and its weaknesses. It’s still a pretty good game (other than the godawful frame rate), but it had potential to be a GREAT game. I do like the gangs though. The Pervs, Watchdogs, and those bounty Hunter redneck dudes especially. Great voice acting too, even though whenever I hear Leo, I just think of Robin from Teen Titans lol. They don’t have the same voice actor, but their voices are pretty similar. I respect the attempt to try a different take on the story though, as much as I prefer the VHS snuff slasher atmosphere of the first game and I think Manhunt 1 was better at balancing the edginess to a proper level of edgy that doesn’t become cringe.
I was also pretty disappointed with how much less gritty and creepy the sequel felt. It was censored and banned for the amount of gore that it had, but in terms of psychological horror, the first game did that much better. That said, it wasn't a bad game as far as sequels go. The MK ultra inspired story was pretty cool in my opinion.
I'm starting to think that a lot of the missions where It's just a generic third person shooter we're probably originally just going to be more stealth levels with more and more weapons to use but due to how much was cut they had to just slap guns on there. Could've been so much more If Rockstar didn't get into any shit involving media outlets an all that.
If i be honest manhunt 2 with his atmosphere and psicological horror and the edgyness remind me of the First postal game but the only differnt Is that the game was simpler and straight foarwoard and the story even if simple It did his job with the diary entry with the creepy art work
Manhunt 2 feels like it was made by people that really didn't "get" the first Manhunt and went with just "Manhunt 1 but more extreme" instead of the dark satire the first one was.
I feel like manhunt 1 was alot better the 2nd one was fun and I enjoyed it overall but I thought number 1 was great and I liked the gun play in number 1 that you had to run away alot and think of how you would get rid of people looking for you and how you can die so easily
In terms of atmosphere, I prefer Manhunt 1. But gameplay and mechanical wise, Manhunt 2 is good, but it story and atmosphere feel "edgy and forced". Not to mention Daniel Lamb as a dangerous killer protagonist, as Leo mentioned "Lame". Manhunt 1 feel "Dirty and raw".
This game was ruined by banning censorship and the rating system being removed the uncut version is great and would of sold much more also why does the ao rating even exist if most consoles dont allow them on their systems and arent 18 year olds technically adults.
3:22 you know what the best thing to say to those kinda idiots that be like you're going to hell and everything like that just tell them they're gonna join you cause in at the end of the day only god can give judgement n that they will be judged in the same way they are doing it to you
Why don't people go after the console manufacturers, platforms like Steam and shops who won't stock AO games (even behind the counter) as much as the moral guardians? Can platforms not filter what you can see on a store page using the DOB attached to a credit card?
"vIdEO gaMeS CAusE vIoLEnCe." -.- If anything, being able to get rid of stress in a video game reduces violence... Boxing doesnt cause an increase in violence either for example...
I'm one of the few who enjoys Manhunt 2 a lot. In fact, it's my favourite compared to the original because the plot is more engaging and I love the characters. The twist ending of Daniel Lamb having a split personality, which I did not see it coming, was awesome. I find myself playing Manhunt 2 on the PC and Vita once a year. The only thing I didn't like was the graphics. We had Modern Warfare, Uncharted, Mass Effect, and Half-Life 2: Episode 2 in 2007 and Manhunt 2's character models looked ugly and outdated in comparison. With the games we have now like Outlast, Mortal Kombat 11, and Grand Theft Auto V, Manhunt 2 is pretty tame with the violence and sex content (especially GTA V's sex scene in one of Franklin's side quests). Rockstar shouldn't worry about making another Mahhunt game, which is something I really really want, but I feel the momentum is gone and most of the creators have left the company. Still, I dream and hope that there will be Manhunt 3 in the near future.
I personally feel the gun centered levels were more fitting for Leo. I feel the game could of been better if the characters and story was more fleshed out considering how the idea behind the story was very promising.
the lost content of manhunt 2 is the best thing about it. the concept art and old story concepts were really good but were apparently too violent so they were scrapped.
Manhunt 2 was destroyed by censoring, changing story mid development and lower budget. Also broken AI, average design at few places and a lot more shooting than in first Manhunt. First few levels are awesome (asylum, S&M club or red light district) but the further in the game the more shooting there is. Story has big holes and most of characters are plain bad (like good granny dr Whyte)
I actually liked the environmental executions and the story could work with some tweaking, I just wish they were in a better game. With it's lack of connections to the original, Manhunt 2 could have easily been it's own game. It's brand name wasn't the only problem, but it was a pretty big one in my opinion. I think the controversy behind the game is more interesting than the game itself. Calling the game a "murder simulator" is so comical to me since horror movies around the time were just as gruesome, yet apparently over the top violence is only a problem when video games do it.
The thing about Manhunt 1 is that the violence in that game actually had a purpose. If you really think about it, it was basically a satire of violent media, complete with someone complementing the violence as it happens onscreen. It also had a lot of other things that are still relevant today such as corrupt cops and someone abusing their power to get away with sick shit (Starkweather is basically if Harvey Weinstein made snuff films). Manhunt 2 on the other hand is basically violence and controversy for the sake of violence and controversy. It doesn't really say anything with the violence depicted other than, "Look how edgy we are." This game is basically an NC-17 rated version of _Fight Club_ but that movie didn't need that much violence to get its point across whereas here it's just shock value.
True. Apparently he’s chilled out more and has more of a sense of humor about himself nowadays though (he was in a pretty funny comedy skit that was pretty much making fun of his mindset)
People keep saying they miss the old times yet they had no idea how crazy parents and media back then was, at least for gaming. You can play GTA one day and the next you'll be branded as a risk for society.
In the AO PC version you can easily un-censor the game by running in "Stereoscopic Mode." It gets rid of the red haze and camera effects making the game brutal as shit. I've played this game every year around Halloween (since its' release) and I've gotten so good at it I can do the motion executions fluidly without delay. The more you play it the better the story gets and the more you actually feel the madness of Danny. Also, the inner voice being a "child-like burn the ants type narrative" is kind of the point. Danny was subjected to MK Ultra programming and highly traumatized. It caused him to split into 2, one being the primal side (that we all try to suppress) and the other being a father and husband who can't come to terms with the fact that he is the reason his family died. The deeper he goes down the rabbit hole he then realizes that he is both Danny and Leo but he realizes this creation is not of his own doing. It's badass really.
I loved manhunt 2. They dared to speak blaintly about the CIA mind control mk ultra shenanigans. Which makes, imo, a more interesting narrative about a sleeper agent/Manchurian candidate than simply a snuff film actor
I feel like the original manhunt story is great and it also captures this seedy underworld of corruption that exists in real life unfortunately and I think the story was better executed
Too bad cause the game has interesting concept of MK Ultra but had to be dumbed down cause of normies interfering with our entertainment. Even after all that Manhunt 2 has a place in mind as a messy flawed cult classic
Oh the memories, I remember finding the uncensored ps2 beta version & playing it for hours until finishing, even if I no longer find gore and excessive violence entertaining I will always look back to this title & its prequel as pieces of gaming history that perhaps simply wouldn’t exist in today standards.
Im doing a full gameplay series on manhunt 2 , in my opinion its amazing. the later chapters do miss out on the atmosphere because of guns but in the start its awesome, the kills feel real , its not just press a button and hes dead , its not cod cold war comical shenanigans, its real , brutal, animalistic and i love it
the game tormentor by madmind studios seems to take inspiration from man hunt with agony and succubus being very good i trust that they'll more than likely hit that manhunt feel
The game started decent introducing each hunter in every ''episode'', but even so they are so forgettable, and you are mostly dealing with the Watchdogs, the Project Militia and the Bloodhounds, so I wonder why Rockstar even bothered with the other groups, especially the Red Kings, you deal with like 5 of them in Red Light and that's about it, they won't appear ever again after that
I find it funny as a Christian the way some people get so mad about these games. I do believe in God yes, but i don't think these games affect people as some may think. Don't like it then don't play it.
I enjoy both Manhunt games for different reasons. I love the first as this gritty and mostly grounded story of human evil, and the second for its crazy MKUltra esque storyline, so it just depends what mood I'm in which one I'll play. One thing I'll say about Manhunt 2 is I think Leo is a really interesting character, and his actor, Holter Graham, absolutely kills it. I think he's as good a character as Starkweather.
I only played the first one for a few hours and my understanding is that is better but i finished this one and is pretty good. I enjoyed the mk ultra based story (something that actually happens and the government does it) and how strategical it was.
Kind of feel that the rating system didn't work here compared to the first Manhunt. The first one's manual has in-game snuff films rated on a scale of 1-5, so if you get a 5, it's both indicative of you doing well in-game and the consumers of Starkweather's snuff films rating it high due to the brutality, which is clever. Here there's no justification other than ranking how well you did. They could have dressed it up to look like a Dixmor evaluation or maybe even bring back the snuff format due to the Pervs having that front for the Project.
I really don't like how they did the original devs on this game. It was by then that I realized Rockstar has always been bad to work for. There's still a bit of "censorship" in the AO version.
I love this game A lot seeing not many people played it and not many people liked it makes me sad for me. Thinking about a brutal game this game immediately comes to my mind. Manhunt 1 was a cool concept but the story and the gameplay is what I love about Manhunt 2. Its unique and much different than any other game out there. Good Video though.
There's a good clip from an interview with Strauss Zelnick who is the head of Take Two who owns Rockstar and he's asked by the interviewer if he purposely hyped up Manhunt 2's violence and cashed in on the controversy of the first game and wanted it to be censored for the consoles so they could rake in more money for the inevitable PC release. Because he knew more people would be clamoring for it. It explains why it feels so hollow and empty compared to the first one. ruclips.net/video/9EDcELxKed8/видео.html
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LOL nintendo have softporn tetris games and puzzle games busty japs in bikini's yet violence is a no go nintendo are becoming a laughing stock of the gaming industry
Chapter 3: Sexual Deviants is truly among the most atmospheric and creepy levels ever in a video game. That's the kind of sadistic, brutal but darkly comic tone Rockstar should've gone for as a whole. In a largely forgettable experience, this level is a bonafide masterpiece.
Really? Maybe it's because I'm playing the lackluster Wii version but it felt like a lazy edgy Duke Nukem 3D strip club knock off. I respect your opinion, maybe it's because I'm old now, I liked this game 10 years ago but I just played through that section again and it was kinda eye rolling. Admittedly it's got the most personality in the game, it certainly had an atmosphere whereas the environments in the rest of the game feel pretty generic.
@@Roflcrabs I felt like Manhunt 2 also fell short on the gangs/hunters. In Manhunt 1 the gangs were varied (I also think in their AI behaviors) and usually had like three levels dedicated to them which gave variety. In Manhunt 2 most of the time you're dealing with the Watchdogs/bounty hunters which gets repetitive quick, especially when the game shifts to shooting much earlier in my opinion than in the first game which also doesn't allow you to hear their dialogue.
@@themac7915 oh totally, agreed. Actually I finally finished the game tonight and even though I just complained about the pervs they're sadly the most interesting and distinct enemies in the game.
Honestly that level is the perfect amount of edginess. It’s edgy enough to be shocking and disturbing but also darkly comedic at times.
I agree
3:06 Violent video games don't make me violent, but people like Jack Thompson legitimately make me angry
We can at least be comforted by the fact that as of today, Jack Thompson has been disbarred from practicing law for 14 years, particularly due to making false statements over lawsuits and legal matters he started and attempting to intimidate or humiliate others involved in them. Just goes to show how people like him always ruin their own lives because if their mindstate and rhetoric.
Jack Thompson causes violence.
@@Winabagel23 didn't he been disbarred from practicing law for 14 years for haveing porno or someshit?
@@Winabagel23 That's awesome.
Manhunt 2 definitely is a flaccid experience, in most areas and regularly. You really have no reason to be brutal, and Daniel would probably avoid killing people, instead of going after them. The Pickman idea is not a bad one, but Leo should've been a cold, jingoistic and disciplined soldier, not a sadistic screaming killer, if he really was supposed to be an assassin.
I don't blame de devs, most of it seems to have been lot of flak in the backstages and shuffling around. But the game missed a big opportunity to make the Pickman project use Mr. Nasty's footage and films as material for their indoctrination and brainwash. Hell, half the game could be Mr. Nasty and the CIA producing footage for a subject to watch, and be turned into a cold-blooded soldier, that follows what their earpiece tells them to.
Even as it was, the game could try to make Leo be appeased by Brutal killings. So you do them to "calm him down" and subside him in Daniel's psyche. But the choreographed twist is the more you do it, the more he becomes stronger and takes control in the end. Just as the brutality in the original Manhunt is incentivized or forced, and after you cut ties with the DIrector, you have no reason to do it anymore, only inertia or sadism at best. In Manhunt 2 you never had a reason, false or real.
I played manhunt as a kid and remember manhunt 2 coming out on halloween back when i was in grade school, my mom was reluctant to the game because of the rating but she prob would never think a game could be so gorey. I remember the kid at gamestop counter gave me looks lol but, i remember how much much i was shitting my pants playing it because it starts off with a bunch of inmates going nutts. 30 years old now and i still grew up pretty normal headded lol, just my love of horror genre deff came from great horror games like re,silent hill, deadspace etc.
I feel like the way this game should've went is like this:
Keep leo alive, and have him kill all the people in his path that's in his way to go see pickmen and stop him from running the whole pickmen bridge operation once and for all
And have danny kill no one, as seen in gameplay in the beginning of how fearful, resistant, and how he wants to be passive with certain situations, they could've have danny be stealth missions, having him slip past watchdogs, corrupt cops, etc, until he finds all the pieces to restore his memory
And maybe for an ending when danny realizes that he was brainwashed and manipulated by pickmen to have a killer in his head that made him kill his wife, he goes out to find danny to kill him and remove him from his life as revenge for what happened to his wife, and then continue the original ending from here where danny wakes up on a road, with documents that tells him his new name and extra info
That ending definitely felt undeserved for all the horrible things you did as Danny in the game
@@jonnysac77 Some murders could be justified but then you get to kill innocent cops that are just doing their jobs in Ritual Cleasing and Domestic Disturbance, and also that innocent trashman that Danny killed after escaping the asylum, it's ironic that Danny feels guilty for killing the Watchdogs and Pickman who are actually bad people, but the cops who are actually innocent are nowhere to be seen in Personality Clash
@@yunjin909 It's not that he just kills them, he kills them in the most brutal ways imaginable, which made more sense when you were playing as a fucked up guy performing the murders for a snuff porno, not just a normal guy trying to get out of a bad situation
@@jonnysac77 Imo the brutal kills would only make sense if only Leo could perform them considering his background, Danny's levels should have been just about avoiding the hunters, it wouldn't justify the kills but at the very least it would make more sense and it would make the two personalities more distincts in gameplay
I think Leo was written to have a sort of supportive big brother kind of feel while Starkwheather is written to be an employer. Two very different kinds of characters but Starkwheather's dialogue is definitely better written and more darkly humorous while Leo just comes off as edgy and lame.
The problem is, they give no context for Leo being that way. It could have been justified if they actually told us enough
Edgy isn't lame
@@comedylyfe2113 well I was thinking more 'trying too hard' kind of edgy which to me comes of as lame
@@rabbait1308i think your forgetting that leo isn't exactly suppose to be a psychotic killer, he's suppose to be a deadly assassin. Honestly i like this game more than the 1st because of the psychological horror and honestly i really love Daniel lambs story
@@ItsjustBlackJackhere I suppose but I still don't really care for the character. I remember getting annoyed with Leo when I played it but Maybe that'd change if I went back and played manhunt 2 because it's been a few years idk.
21:25
Does he really forget who he is? I thought repeating that he is Daniel Lamb in the end was the reassertion of his real personality, whilst the ending was him simply reading the envelope that had arranged a new identity for him.
I thought they wiped his memory again and then gave him the new identity
In Manhunt 2's defense, even tho it did have more gun focused levels, most of these are completable using the melee stealth kills, at least on the psp version I played, with the exceptions being that Leo flashback level with the sniper rifle and the occasional "shootout" set piece, like the cinema room you mentioned. Still not the smartest decision, since I would prefer guns to be less present in the game, but it does bring back that extra tension of hunting well armed gangmembers and it is better than having all gun focused levels only having guns to use with no melee weapons available (and for those situations you have the gun executions). But overall I agree with you in that Manhunt 2 isn't as good as the first one, even tho its still a game I really enjoy and play from time to time on my psp. it does help that that version doesn't have the weird annoying aiming while maintining the whole "headshots only available when at a closer distance", since it helped maintain the sneaking up close to an armed enemy and then holding the (auto)aim button, instead of the main console version giving you free aiming that isnt actually that free and is more annoying than anything
The scariest part of Manhunt 2 for me was the mission early game (I think the second) where Danny has to search his house and Watchdogs show up while he’s in the basement. Hard to describe without sounding weird but it reminds me of a nightmare I had where I killed someone and police showed up to my house, just the feeling that your life is over if you don’t act quick.
I hate that level. A flashback in form of "ghost". Very creepy.
Belive it or not I played this game multiple times when I was 13 💀
I had fun with it but I admit it's not even close to the first game
I loved the first game, I really wanted to like this one but I just didn't get into it for whatever reason.
@@PlasticCogLiquid I mean it's not great
But a 13yr old can think any game is awesome
Bruh 💀
They are both good horror games lol
Heavy exposition that also gives you almost no exposition ironically.
There is a certain brilliance involved however with Leo’s levels, when you spend the whole game wondering when the experiment went wrong only to realize you’ve been playing it
i remember seeing manhunt on my uncles pc when i was a kid, seeing the main menu and parts of the first level. i remember ever since that manhunt has ALWAYS creeped me out but at the same time left me with a morbid curiosity for the game
I actually really really liked this sequel, as a straight up sequel to the snuff film ring of Manhunt, it was disappointing, but as it’s standalone game, it deserves its Manhunt title. If A Clockwork Orange, Hostel and Fight Club had a baby, it’ll be Manhunt 2. Playing Leo Kasper was great, if there was ever a live action film about this, I always thought Jon Bernthal would make a great Leo Kasper.
Both manhunt games were so fucking good imo I love them a lot
Both manhunt games were so fucking bad imo I hate them a lot
Razormoon makes Manhunt 2 so much more fun, I think. I recommend giving it a try if you haven't.
I guarantee had they made the version of the game with Frisbee in place of Leo Kasper (despite him still being in the game as a separate person/Project Defector), it not only would’ve been a more engaging story but also opens up significantly more room for Dark Comedy + more Meta stuff more akin to the first game.
Although…I honestly would’ve loved to have seen the Religious Fanatic story that was also in contention. It would further put into context some of the cut levels/executions/weapons like the Aztec Sacrifice Altar + the Iron Maiden (still in the final game) from the History Museum and the D*ldo within the Sorority House level that was found within the files as a named Chapter. They could’ve PUSHED THE DAMN ENVELOPE with this premise so hard, we probably wouldn’t have Rockstar around today had they “gone there”
But with the MK Ultra version in the final game, while it does make sense and give context for the Hunters basically being test subjects without any humanity left + refuse of the Pickman Project(s), somehow you feel cheated by how much they cut and confused by what was actually left in! Like, for example, “Domestic Disturbance” being the second to last level (or third if you go for the Bad Ending) and it just being Leo running around the Suburbs evading Police and Neighborhood Watch to reach Danny’s Wife…when in the first drafts, it was Level 3 and had you hunting members of the Pickman Project while dispatching the Legion (no Caesar), which was a Hunter Faction still present in the final game…but only in Level 1. They were supposedly going to be a MAJOR Hunter Faction like the Project’s Cleaners, but then completely sidelined…full models for more variants and everything
I could go on, but yeah…it was shipped Incomplete AF, but as it is, it’s still a good game that’s caught in the shadow of its original iteration(s)
I want everyone to remember that when Manhunt 2 was shown at E3 the ESRB released a statement that day that the content shown in the demo would warrant an AO rating.
Manhunt 2 feels really sloppy in the second half because that’s where a lot of the changes to the story and plot were made. I would say they were going for something more like Outlast and that was a mark almost impossible to hit back in that era of gaming. The amount of violence combined with the context the violence is presented in is something most people couldn’t handle.
This is one of the few games that I still think about to this day what it would have been without the ESRB coming down on it so hard so quick
This game has its strengths and its weaknesses. It’s still a pretty good game (other than the godawful frame rate), but it had potential to be a GREAT game. I do like the gangs though. The Pervs, Watchdogs, and those bounty Hunter redneck dudes especially. Great voice acting too, even though whenever I hear Leo, I just think of Robin from Teen Titans lol. They don’t have the same voice actor, but their voices are pretty similar.
I respect the attempt to try a different take on the story though, as much as I prefer the VHS snuff slasher atmosphere of the first game and I think Manhunt 1 was better at balancing the edginess to a proper level of edgy that doesn’t become cringe.
I was also pretty disappointed with how much less gritty and creepy the sequel felt. It was censored and banned for the amount of gore that it had, but in terms of psychological horror, the first game did that much better. That said, it wasn't a bad game as far as sequels go. The MK ultra inspired story was pretty cool in my opinion.
bruh i love the gun combat so im glad both games had a lot of it
Will you ever consider reviewing Second Sight?
It was a "good" game on PS2, nowdays it runs on PC too.
It has crossed my mind at some point.
@@BoulderPunch Heh...Mind.
14:30 my favorite one is the shoe thief
I'm starting to think that a lot of the missions where It's just a generic third person shooter we're probably originally just going to be more stealth levels with more and more weapons to use but due to how much was cut they had to just slap guns on there.
Could've been so much more If Rockstar didn't get into any shit involving media outlets an all that.
If i be honest manhunt 2 with his atmosphere and psicological horror and the edgyness remind me of the First postal game but the only differnt Is that the game was simpler and straight foarwoard and the story even if simple It did his job with the diary entry with the creepy art work
Is everything under the sun considered edgy nowadays? It's just a meaningless word parroted by try-hsrd teens eager to sound cool
>LAMB vs. LEO
I'm 14 and this is deep.
Manhunt 2 feels like it was made by people that really didn't "get" the first Manhunt and went with just "Manhunt 1 but more extreme" instead of the dark satire the first one was.
I feel like manhunt 1 was alot better the 2nd one was fun and I enjoyed it overall but I thought number 1 was great and I liked the gun play in number 1 that you had to run away alot and think of how you would get rid of people looking for you and how you can die so easily
I find Manhunt was used as inspiration for the SAW games, both played very similarly, but SAW didn’t have the sneak kills.
Wait, rockstar vienna....oh, that repression of violence really shows
i rather enjoyed manhunt 2, the kills were amazing and gory for its age. and the story was pretty abstract is was nice.
In terms of atmosphere, I prefer Manhunt 1. But gameplay and mechanical wise, Manhunt 2 is good, but it story and atmosphere feel "edgy and forced". Not to mention Daniel Lamb as a dangerous killer protagonist, as Leo mentioned "Lame".
Manhunt 1 feel "Dirty and raw".
Still have my ps2 copy with the wristband I love it n play it every other year
That manhole ex.
I adore it.
Man I actually like this way more than the first game
it's not disappointing, just not on the same level as the first one
Where can i get this game on pc?
If you guys are wondering how to download patch Manhunt 2 on pc I made a video on it if your interested: ruclips.net/video/iZ5R1RUnv4Y/видео.html
This game was ruined by banning censorship and the rating system being removed the uncut version is great and would of sold much more also why does the ao rating even exist if most consoles dont allow them on their systems and arent 18 year olds technically adults.
3:22 you know what the best thing to say to those kinda idiots that be like you're going to hell and everything like that just tell them they're gonna join you cause in at the end of the day only god can give judgement n that they will be judged in the same way they are doing it to you
Manhunt 2 wasn’t disappointing only thing is that manhunt 2 don’t have boss fight unlike manhunt 1 otherwise i like both of the games very much
Why don't people go after the console manufacturers, platforms like Steam and shops who won't stock AO games (even behind the counter) as much as the moral guardians? Can platforms not filter what you can see on a store page using the DOB attached to a credit card?
That news guy has alot of practice with that
While not as memorable as the og I definitely had a great time with manhunt 2
How dare you i loved this game as a kid the only disappointment is this video
"vIdEO gaMeS CAusE vIoLEnCe."
-.-
If anything, being able to get rid of stress in a video game reduces violence...
Boxing doesnt cause an increase in violence either for example...
perfect just need zombi mod to pass any rating restrictions
If violence is too much for y’all to handle then don’t play nor watch it
The problem really is that Manhunt 2 is just waay to easy compared to the first game.
Agreed.
I'm one of the few who enjoys Manhunt 2 a lot. In fact, it's my favourite compared to the original because the plot is more engaging and I love the characters. The twist ending of Daniel Lamb having a split personality, which I did not see it coming, was awesome. I find myself playing Manhunt 2 on the PC and Vita once a year. The only thing I didn't like was the graphics. We had Modern Warfare, Uncharted, Mass Effect, and Half-Life 2: Episode 2 in 2007 and Manhunt 2's character models looked ugly and outdated in comparison.
With the games we have now like Outlast, Mortal Kombat 11, and Grand Theft Auto V, Manhunt 2 is pretty tame with the violence and sex content (especially GTA V's sex scene in one of Franklin's side quests). Rockstar shouldn't worry about making another Mahhunt game, which is something I really really want, but I feel the momentum is gone and most of the creators have left the company. Still, I dream and hope that there will be Manhunt 3 in the near future.
great content, I loved these games
i play manhunt on mobile with pspppsp
I know that’s an emulator but it sounds like the sound you make to make cats come to you
I remember playing this on my PSP. Totally thought it was twice at good as the first one🤷♂🤷♂
i feel special being the 50th viewer
I personally feel the gun centered levels were more fitting for Leo. I feel the game could of been better if the characters and story was more fleshed out considering how the idea behind the story was very promising.
the lost content of manhunt 2 is the best thing about it. the concept art and old story concepts were really good but were apparently too violent so they were scrapped.
I didn't know there was story concept, do you know where I can read or listen about it?
I didn't include it, but there was lots of interesting stuff there.
Got a link to any of this? I've followed this series since the beginning and this is news to me.
Where can we find these lost concepts?
What the fuck are you taking about?
Manhunt 2 was destroyed by censoring, changing story mid development and lower budget. Also broken AI, average design at few places and a lot more shooting than in first Manhunt. First few levels are awesome (asylum, S&M club or red light district) but the further in the game the more shooting there is. Story has big holes and most of characters are plain bad (like good granny dr Whyte)
I actually liked the environmental executions and the story could work with some tweaking, I just wish they were in a better game. With it's lack of connections to the original, Manhunt 2 could have easily been it's own game. It's brand name wasn't the only problem, but it was a pretty big one in my opinion.
I think the controversy behind the game is more interesting than the game itself. Calling the game a "murder simulator" is so comical to me since horror movies around the time were just as gruesome, yet apparently over the top violence is only a problem when video games do it.
Horror movies went through the exact same bullshit, just like 20-30 years earlier and by the early 2000s, people had gotten used to it.
Is it weird to want a Manhunt 3 with modern MK levels of realism and gore?
That would be amazing, but Rockstar would never do it. Especially in our current buthurt/cancel-culture ridden world.
All rockstar cares about is cash now anyway
Well, there are reports that even Rockstar workers thought Manhunt crossed a line. The first game was a legit, awesome stealth game.
People nowadays are too sensitive and anything they see would be easily offended
The closest thing we have right now in terms of gore is The Last of Us Part 2
The thing about Manhunt 1 is that the violence in that game actually had a purpose. If you really think about it, it was basically a satire of violent media, complete with someone complementing the violence as it happens onscreen. It also had a lot of other things that are still relevant today such as corrupt cops and someone abusing their power to get away with sick shit (Starkweather is basically if Harvey Weinstein made snuff films).
Manhunt 2 on the other hand is basically violence and controversy for the sake of violence and controversy. It doesn't really say anything with the violence depicted other than, "Look how edgy we are." This game is basically an NC-17 rated version of _Fight Club_ but that movie didn't need that much violence to get its point across whereas here it's just shock value.
Somebody liked Max Derrat's video LMAO
All jokes aside, yeah, pretty much hit the nail on the head here
@@vaudevillain_2 Actually I watched MrHammers' videos on Manhunt 1 and 2.
I don't see how Manhunt 1 is a satire... If you mean is an attack to a reality that Rockstar dissaproves... Then I guess so.
Cringe as fuck weak as hell Harvey reference use something relevant not just a media frenzy over nothing
not really. Its pretty clearly inspired by the real life MK Ultra government experiments
Jack Thompson was such a clownish excuse for a human being.
True. Apparently he’s chilled out more and has more of a sense of humor about himself nowadays though (he was in a pretty funny comedy skit that was pretty much making fun of his mindset)
@@SOBEKCrocodileGod redemption
People keep saying they miss the old times yet they had no idea how crazy parents and media back then was, at least for gaming. You can play GTA one day and the next you'll be branded as a risk for society.
I wish someone would buy the rights and keep this franchise going.
Nah u tripping
I thank God everyday that Jack Thompson doesn't have a job
RDR2 was probably rockstars final hurrah before getting completely schlorped by 2K
That one lawyer...I can see why he never won a case against Rockstar. He is full of himself.
Dude's been disbarred from practicing law in 2009. Also, he's a gigantic piece of shit.
There's always some holier than thou nobody who has an idea on what's right and wrong
In the AO PC version you can easily un-censor the game by running in "Stereoscopic Mode." It gets rid of the red haze and camera effects making the game brutal as shit. I've played this game every year around Halloween (since its' release) and I've gotten so good at it I can do the motion executions fluidly without delay. The more you play it the better the story gets and the more you actually feel the madness of Danny. Also, the inner voice being a "child-like burn the ants type narrative" is kind of the point. Danny was subjected to MK Ultra programming and highly traumatized. It caused him to split into 2, one being the primal side (that we all try to suppress) and the other being a father and husband who can't come to terms with the fact that he is the reason his family died. The deeper he goes down the rabbit hole he then realizes that he is both Danny and Leo but he realizes this creation is not of his own doing. It's badass really.
Daniel Lamb looks like Zero from Gta San Andreas
Lol where's his lucky red hat?
Since manhunt 2 is set in the future, thats actually plausible, that explains daniel's pussy attitude
I loved manhunt 2. They dared to speak blaintly about the CIA mind control mk ultra shenanigans. Which makes, imo, a more interesting narrative about a sleeper agent/Manchurian candidate than simply a snuff film actor
I feel like the original manhunt story is great and it also captures this seedy underworld of corruption that exists in real life unfortunately and I think the story was better executed
I think both are intriguing stories. The underground snuff ring slasher gang Purge mixed with Halloween type atmosphere is my favorite though
Manhunt 1s story is so much better than the 2nd and is more realistic. Regardless Manhunt 2 is still a good game
@@therealwaltewhiteboth stories exist brother manhunt was never recreated because both stories are true
@@Drunkmonk2122 shit you're not wrong !!thanks cia!
Too bad cause the game has interesting concept of MK Ultra but had to be dumbed down cause of normies interfering with our entertainment. Even after all that Manhunt 2 has a place in mind as a messy flawed cult classic
I was wondering when this was gonna come out , great work man you never disappoint .
Oh the memories, I remember finding the uncensored ps2 beta version & playing it for hours until finishing, even if I no longer find gore and excessive violence entertaining I will always look back to this title & its prequel as pieces of gaming history that perhaps simply wouldn’t exist in today standards.
Im doing a full gameplay series on manhunt 2 , in my opinion its amazing. the later chapters do miss out on the atmosphere because of guns but in the start its awesome, the kills feel real , its not just press a button and hes dead , its not cod cold war comical shenanigans, its real , brutal, animalistic and i love it
the game tormentor by madmind studios seems to take inspiration from man hunt with agony and succubus being very good i trust that they'll more than likely hit that manhunt feel
Manhunt one was really enjoyable but I manhunt 2 lost the gangs. the gangs and themes of the first were so great but the second one was disappointing
The sequel just felt so ...... random you know?
The game started decent introducing each hunter in every ''episode'', but even so they are so forgettable, and you are mostly dealing with the Watchdogs, the Project Militia and the Bloodhounds, so I wonder why Rockstar even bothered with the other groups, especially the Red Kings, you deal with like 5 of them in Red Light and that's about it, they won't appear ever again after that
@@shawklan27 it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me
@@yunjin909 yeah the game felt a bit less thought out compared to the original
I find it funny as a Christian the way some people get so mad about these games.
I do believe in God yes, but i don't think these games affect people as some may think.
Don't like it then don't play it.
It's more than just "don't like it then don't play it" for them. Basically just don't make such games at all.
@@mr.sinjin-smyth think that’s being kinda soft
Swear the protagonist in this is just white CJ , his face looks almost identical
Daniel was model after the Zordic Killer. When I see Fantano's face, it reminds me of Daniel.
I enjoy both Manhunt games for different reasons. I love the first as this gritty and mostly grounded story of human evil, and the second for its crazy MKUltra esque storyline, so it just depends what mood I'm in which one I'll play. One thing I'll say about Manhunt 2 is I think Leo is a really interesting character, and his actor, Holter Graham, absolutely kills it. I think he's as good a character as Starkweather.
I only played the first one for a few hours and my understanding is that is better but i finished this one and is pretty good.
I enjoyed the mk ultra based story (something that actually happens and the government does it) and how strategical it was.
more dsp
Man has a way with words.
Kind of feel that the rating system didn't work here compared to the first Manhunt. The first one's manual has in-game snuff films rated on a scale of 1-5, so if you get a 5, it's both indicative of you doing well in-game and the consumers of Starkweather's snuff films rating it high due to the brutality, which is clever.
Here there's no justification other than ranking how well you did. They could have dressed it up to look like a Dixmor evaluation or maybe even bring back the snuff format due to the Pervs having that front for the Project.
I really don't like how they did the original devs on this game. It was by then that I realized Rockstar has always been bad to work for.
There's still a bit of "censorship" in the AO version.
I Like the Game that f××ks with my brain
Some of them are manhunt 2 / silent hill 1 & 2 /...
But manhunt 1 isn't one of them so i like manhunt 2 more
DSP is a good friend of the channel? Yikes
I approve your continued use of DSP references to review video games. Keep it up.
Ack ack ack!
@@BoulderPunch I don't say Ack ack ack! I go like Hah hah hah haaaahh! 🐷
@@BoulderPunch snoooooort shut up dood, you're just jealous that im a happily married "mature" adult, you damn detractor !
14:11 the game just turned into twisted metal black
I love this game A lot seeing not many people played it and not many people liked it makes me sad for me. Thinking about a brutal game this game immediately comes to my mind. Manhunt 1 was a cool concept but the story and the gameplay is what I love about Manhunt 2. Its unique and much different than any other game out there. Good Video though.
Edgy?? Yeah, but Disappointing?, no way
I love this game i still play it to this day
I really like your content dude. Your style fits my taste in videos perfectly :)
Their only "Mistake" was Censoring Manhunt 2.
If they didn't then the game would've been PC only.
I don’t think it’s bad it just had a horrible release
Hyper Cope.
I need DSP to make a cameo in every video
I adore manhunt 2.
Just played it on psp and thought it was pretty fun
There's a good clip from an interview with Strauss Zelnick who is the head of Take Two who owns Rockstar and he's asked by the interviewer if he purposely hyped up Manhunt 2's violence and cashed in on the controversy of the first game and wanted it to be censored for the consoles so they could rake in more money for the inevitable PC release. Because he knew more people would be clamoring for it. It explains why it feels so hollow and empty compared to the first one. ruclips.net/video/9EDcELxKed8/видео.html
@@A.I.A.M. ruclips.net/video/9EDcELxKed8/видео.html
I love these 2 games.