I feel like as a whole, the ginyu one shot body swap, his ki blast, and just his damage in general is what’s op about the raider. I wouldn’t mind body change as much but its cooldown is just too low for a one shot ability that also buffs you. Besides this I don’t have much complaint about Ginyu. I find Guildo passively flying around the map and scouting annoying but it’s not that big of a deal for me and Guildo can potentially get clapped without lucky rng anyways.
Exactly why it's important to try and kill every Ginyu force member cause when you reach Ginyu and every member is alive it just makes him stronger Guldo = More health (patrol assist) Recome = More damage (melee assist) Jeice and burter = More speed (plus the super attack assist)
@@OverZeelous the thing is that, not only does he insta-kill you, he also upgrades his beam super attack after he does the move. So they need to have the 2 minute cooldown like the other raiders. Plus why are you basing things from the anime? If this game was lore based then larva cell would take 3 years to evolve. Come on man.
@@KeeganPlayz1234 Upgrades his beam super? You mean the Milky Cannon turning into a different attack? I don't see how that upgrades it, it changes how the move functions, and it's already stupidly broken if Jeice and Burter live. I don't why it needs a nerf because of that. It's nowhere near as powerful Kid Buu's Assault Rain which wipes you out if you aren't taking cover or Ape Vegeta's Stomp which sends you flying and has *gigantic* range, all it does is change Ginyu's model and one of his attack. Also I wasn't basing things off of the anime, I was just saying putting it on a 2 minute cooldown makes no sense. What would it change if Ginyu couldn't use Body Change for 2 minutes? He still has his amped up state, he still has the Ginyu Force Special Attack w/ Jeice and Burter that literally *shreds* anyone regardless of D-Change Level, and he still has busted Ki blasts which almost never miss. The body change is more of a flex skill if anything, as it doesn't regenerate/change health bars like it does in most other games, just his model and one of his abilities.
@@OverZeelous Dude your right! There are so many other skills that ginyu have that are broken! This Raider doesn’t have one part of his kit is broken, ITS ALL OF IT. anyway what I mean by upgrading super attack is that no matter what dragon change you swap with, you always gain full power energy wave. And full power energy wave is better than milky cannon since it’s faster and does more damage. That’s what I mean by upgrading super attacks.
Ginyu is just too much man He gets rewarded for dying He obliterates level 4s with or without Jiece/Burter because of body change He's super fast They control so much space It's insane lmao
tbh ever since vegeta i haven’t been a fan of the multi-health bar raider thing. Killing a raider doesn’t grant a big enough debuff for it to be worth it
Ginyu takes so much damage when you kill guldo i think its okay he does so kich maybe make it that guldo males ginyu lose even more health will make his level 1 vital
Season 3 might be where I drop the game I've already been losing almost every survivor match the past few months now this? With survivor nerfs and Raider buffs on top of that? Yeah I think I'm good.
A part of me thinks ginyu being unbalanced (like GA) is intentional for that delicious paid currency purchases. Not good for the health of the game at all though, (great ape stomp height nerf when?)
Funny thing is Ginyu Force aren't even hard to take down, it's the randoms that are too scared to fight them making these guys a living nightmare. With my friend? Easy coordination to take down each member. When I solo queued? I killed Guldo, Jeice&Burter but only got Ginyu to half way as a solo level 2. We all died because we have dudes looking for dragonballs instead of finishing off the raider. (This happened more times than I can count, I was furious)
@@Eis_Cold true, but then it's more of a odd thing where we're talkin about who has the harder road. Ginyu if he loses the force, is still a good level 4, but hardly better than Kid Buu, where as no matter what Vegeta does, as long as he can get his great ape form, he's still just as big of a threat.
nah this is fair to me. we have a good amount of level 3's or 4's that just slaughter level 4's. Super Buu flats them if he hits and its not hard if he is not splitting his attention. Vegeta great ape 1 stomp its GGS. Ginyu needs to keep Juice and Burtter alive to get that 1 shot power. if you get rid of Guldo he loses the scout and potential Dragon Ball Fighter Confirm into body change (Yes I main Ginyu in that game and its one of his basic confirms into body change) ig you get rid og Juice and Burtter then the game can be delt with much better. but thats why i think its fair.
Tf that’s fair lol. No raider should be able to one or even two shot a level 4… makes collecting DBs basically worthless. Survivors always getting hit with nerfs as it is. Grapple hook slower and less range now so you can’t even get away really with how much faster the raider is let alone Ginyu and their insane mobility and charging dash skills. Also Great Ape Vegeta stomp needs a huge nerf. AOE is insane. If you want to keep the 1 shot dmg then the AOE better be much more contained and not have infinite vertical hit box
@@mh0Ang95 I mean I'm fine with the Raider being buffed to be much stronger in battle but then they need to make it MUCH easier for survivors to escape/hide from the Raider.
I feel like as a whole, the ginyu one shot body swap, his ki blast, and just his damage in general is what’s op about the raider. I wouldn’t mind body change as much but its cooldown is just too low for a one shot ability that also buffs you. Besides this I don’t have much complaint about Ginyu. I find Guildo passively flying around the map and scouting annoying but it’s not that big of a deal for me and Guildo can potentially get clapped without lucky rng anyways.
Yeah the fact that he can one shot level 4 like that is concerning
Ozaru do same with stomp and they let that during all season 2. They just need stomp dmg now XD.
Exactly why it's important to try and kill every Ginyu force member cause when you reach Ginyu and every member is alive it just makes him stronger
Guldo = More health (patrol assist)
Recome = More damage (melee assist)
Jeice and burter = More speed (plus the super attack assist)
@@dabing116 The difference between vegeta and ginyu is that ginyu is guaranteed his level 4 no matter what and vegeta isn't
Super Buu can do the same thing so this is far from a problem bro
@@The_WIll_OF_D99 super buu can not one shot a lvl 4
5:13 That was Perrrrrfect😂
you said that you would have used scouter but the thing is when you body change the scouter option disappears. Nice touch they gave.
2:47 Backwards clash
The melee combat can be kinda wonky
Body change has WAY TOO SHORT of a cooldown time if you miss. It needs to be one of those 2 minute cooldown abilities in my opinion.
Why? It’s not like he can change bodies more than once. Plus, just like in the anime, if he fails he doesn’t take long to try again.
@@OverZeelous the thing is that, not only does he insta-kill you, he also upgrades his beam super attack after he does the move. So they need to have the 2 minute cooldown like the other raiders. Plus why are you basing things from the anime? If this game was lore based then larva cell would take 3 years to evolve. Come on man.
@@KeeganPlayz1234 Upgrades his beam super? You mean the Milky Cannon turning into a different attack? I don't see how that upgrades it, it changes how the move functions, and it's already stupidly broken if Jeice and Burter live. I don't why it needs a nerf because of that. It's nowhere near as powerful Kid Buu's Assault Rain which wipes you out if you aren't taking cover or Ape Vegeta's Stomp which sends you flying and has *gigantic* range, all it does is change Ginyu's model and one of his attack.
Also I wasn't basing things off of the anime, I was just saying putting it on a 2 minute cooldown makes no sense. What would it change if Ginyu couldn't use Body Change for 2 minutes? He still has his amped up state, he still has the Ginyu Force Special Attack w/ Jeice and Burter that literally *shreds* anyone regardless of D-Change Level, and he still has busted Ki blasts which almost never miss. The body change is more of a flex skill if anything, as it doesn't regenerate/change health bars like it does in most other games, just his model and one of his abilities.
@@OverZeelous Dude your right! There are so many other skills that ginyu have that are broken! This Raider doesn’t have one part of his kit is broken, ITS ALL OF IT. anyway what I mean by upgrading super attack is that no matter what dragon change you swap with, you always gain full power energy wave. And full power energy wave is better than milky cannon since it’s faster and does more damage. That’s what I mean by upgrading super attacks.
Yea, with the shield and the fact that Ginyu force pretty much get lvl 4 guaranteed that might lead me to hate season 3 and playing the game less
@ironcane and this is why the Ginyu force needs a debuff and a nerf right now :(
Hopefully officially at start of szn 3
@@mh0Ang95 agree
They cater to raiders in this game so even if it happens it'll be small
Same thing happened when I was Ginyu except we gave the level 4 them hands and they went down incredibly fast
Did the public test server end or ot cause I keep on seeing ginyu force videos.
Ginyu is just too much man
He gets rewarded for dying
He obliterates level 4s with or without Jiece/Burter because of body change
He's super fast
They control so much space
It's insane lmao
But remember they are all squishy asf the Ginyu Force are glass canons except for the Captain of course
tbh ever since vegeta i haven’t been a fan of the multi-health bar raider thing. Killing a raider doesn’t grant a big enough debuff for it to be worth it
This is so true. Absolutely not enough debuff to kill a raider
Yeah multi health Raiders don't even have close to enough drawbacks if the previous phase dies.
Ginyu takes so much damage when you kill guldo i think its okay he does so kich maybe make it that guldo males ginyu lose even more health will make his level 1 vital
Every other raider: struglling to deal with level 4
MEANWHILE GINYU JUST BODY CHANGING-
I just released but with body changes, you lose the scoutter and u can't scan :/
Ye ginyu def needs a nerf to either his base damage so you need recoome alive to really fight or to his health pool to be less than juice and burturs
are the public testing servers over?
Yes
Glad i got to watch this and the other game were Guldo popped off throughout out the match in the stream
0:38 LOL
FIGHT
-darkness-
HO!!!!
Do u think they would ever make it to where multiple online players can control multiple raiders in the same match or maybe new game modes
That's gonna be laggy but they might and that would be SOOOOOOOOO FUN WITH FRIENDS
Season 3 might be where I drop the game I've already been losing almost every survivor match the past few months now this? With survivor nerfs and Raider buffs on top of that? Yeah I think I'm good.
Bro deleted that Lvl 4 faster than his browser history
8:31 Damn bro deleted him
Because the raider players will legit argue that this character was needed
Good video
Glad you enjoyed!!
A part of me thinks ginyu being unbalanced (like GA) is intentional for that delicious paid currency purchases. Not good for the health of the game at all though, (great ape stomp height nerf when?)
I thought they’d become ginyu level 4 with like 50 hp left or some kind of Easter egg
Smh that would make more sense then instant death
Funny thing is Ginyu Force aren't even hard to take down, it's the randoms that are too scared to fight them making these guys a living nightmare.
With my friend? Easy coordination to take down each member.
When I solo queued? I killed Guldo, Jeice&Burter but only got Ginyu to half way as a solo level 2. We all died because we have dudes looking for dragonballs instead of finishing off the raider. (This happened more times than I can count, I was furious)
Best part lol 5:14
Charge would one shot you when you turned into ginyu
I would say Ginyu is very strong, but I think Great Ape Vegeta is still better.
I mean yeah but at least Great ape Vegeta isn't guaranteed every match.
@@Eis_Cold true, but then it's more of a odd thing where we're talkin about who has the harder road. Ginyu if he loses the force, is still a good level 4, but hardly better than Kid Buu, where as no matter what Vegeta does, as long as he can get his great ape form, he's still just as big of a threat.
just toss guldo in the robo coupe smh no nerf needed
honestly tho playing guldo looks like playing dbz kakarot
FIGHT! HO!!!
nah this is fair to me. we have a good amount of level 3's or 4's that just slaughter level 4's. Super Buu flats them if he hits and its not hard if he is not splitting his attention. Vegeta great ape 1 stomp its GGS. Ginyu needs to keep Juice and Burtter alive to get that 1 shot power. if you get rid of Guldo he loses the scout and potential Dragon Ball Fighter Confirm into body change (Yes I main Ginyu in that game and its one of his basic confirms into body change) ig you get rid og Juice and Burtter then the game can be delt with much better.
but thats why i think its fair.
Tf that’s fair lol. No raider should be able to one or even two shot a level 4… makes collecting DBs basically worthless. Survivors always getting hit with nerfs as it is. Grapple hook slower and less range now so you can’t even get away really with how much faster the raider is let alone Ginyu and their insane mobility and charging dash skills. Also Great Ape Vegeta stomp needs a huge nerf. AOE is insane. If you want to keep the 1 shot dmg then the AOE better be much more contained and not have infinite vertical hit box
@@mh0Ang95 I mean I'm fine with the Raider being buffed to be much stronger in battle but then they need to make it MUCH easier for survivors to escape/hide from the Raider.
no hate towards you or your content, just towards this game, it sucks.
Uh... k.