Driving Fail Viewers Edition #35 | Liverpool Again!

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  • Опубликовано: 10 дек 2024

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  • @oxide_fx
    @oxide_fx 2 года назад +491

    People driving like mental with their company logo plastered all over the vehicle always crack me up...

    • @marklittler784
      @marklittler784 2 года назад +11

      Did you notice how lane one and two were virtually empty for quite some distance after it had overtaken and the camera car was only doing 64mph with the road clear in front.

    • @robertwillis4061
      @robertwillis4061 2 года назад +12

      Would be very interesting to see how his company ( assuming he isn't self-employed) would react to him driving like that. Worked for a company about 13 years ago, where the owners son was killed on a country road by a van driver that did a stupid overtake. He checked licences twice a year, so any bumps or points, you HAD to tell him. I know he sacked a salesman for a speeding ticket. Think it was 40+ in a 30mph area. The boss promoted that drivers do advanced driver courses, I didn't as I could not drive at the time due to a heart problem.

    • @shm5547
      @shm5547 2 года назад +27

      ​@@marklittler784 do you mean 3:20? If so, take another look...
      The GPS states 66mph, which will be an indicated speed on the cars speedo of over 70mph as they over-read. Lanes 1 & 2 are not virtually empty, there are 2x HGV's and a car. When the cammer pulls over after the overtake, there's a sensible 2 second gap between them and the car ahead (you can time it yourself as the grey car moves out of the shadow under the gantry). Dashcams often make things seem further away than they really are, due to the wide angle lens.
      The cammer was driving in an exemplary manner. They just failed to anticipate the utterly stupid and dangerous undertake by MF71 XBP - Tatton Drives and Patios Ltd.

    • @CelestisForgeUK
      @CelestisForgeUK 2 года назад +2

      It’s hilarious, indeed, but also a good advertisement for the company. Advertising what company I do not want to deal with 😂

    • @marklittler784
      @marklittler784 2 года назад

      @@shm5547 There was far less room being left by most of the surrounding vehicles than the Cammer even though they're in the wrong when you have a large gap in front others get the impression your not making progress.

  • @swiftyblueredblue715
    @swiftyblueredblue715 2 года назад +137

    Holy shit. That tractor couldve ended in a passenger decapitation very easily. Glad nobody was hurt in that. Scary

    • @se-kmg355
      @se-kmg355 2 года назад +26

      Not as bad as the tractor video that was a couple of years ago.

    • @swiftyblueredblue715
      @swiftyblueredblue715 2 года назад

      @@se-kmg355 which one? I think I remember seeing another but I'm not too sure it'll be the same one

    • @ashley_neal
      @ashley_neal  2 года назад +25

      ruclips.net/video/fT8fNE736lE/видео.html this one!

    • @RichO1701e
      @RichO1701e 2 года назад +5

      @@se-kmg355 the one with the BMW going for the overtake as the tractor is turning right into his field with a MASSIVE piece of hay bail machinery on it.

    • @swiftyblueredblue715
      @swiftyblueredblue715 2 года назад +2

      @@ashley_neal ohhhh yes, I remembered instantly when I seen you stood on the corner of the wall. That could've been horrific. It's scary how fast you can become more or less a passenger when something goes wrong in a split second.

  • @RustOnWheels
    @RustOnWheels Год назад +17

    I can honestly say that Ashley’s responses to viewer’s clips made me a better driver.
    Ashley’s way of words when addressing the temper tantrums and short fused drivers made me realize that 1. keeping your cool is always best and 2. when coming across such drivers don’t bother with them. Don’t punish them or retaliate. Just let them have their ‘win’ and stay safe yourself. It’s not worth being ‘right’ and maimed.

  • @SiCrewe
    @SiCrewe Год назад +2

    6:55 One of my personal "rules" is that I simply NEVER drive next to another car on a roundabout or multi-lane junction.
    I'll stay behind any cars in other lanes and if somebody else enters the junction/roundabout and pulls alongside me I'll ease off slightly and let them get ahead.
    There's simply too many muppets on the road to risk a collision because somebody hasn't checked their blindspot or they've suddenly decided they're in the wrong lane.

  • @kenbrown2808
    @kenbrown2808 2 года назад +23

    love the "there's a guy on youtube" commentary.

  • @gravemind6536
    @gravemind6536 2 года назад +61

    I really think Ashley needs to do a video about people in modern cars not turning on their headlights at night as its becoming a very common issue on the roads. Modern cars all have DRLs and interior clusters lit up at all times so idiots drive around at night with just DRLs on and no back lights at all its crazy.

    • @robinhosleftfoot
      @robinhosleftfoot 2 года назад +5

      Try flashing them and they just flash back🤦

    • @gravemind6536
      @gravemind6536 2 года назад +16

      @@robinhosleftfoot 95% of them are completely oblivious to it, I even try turning my lights off and on again beeping and nothing they are just next level stupid.

    • @robinhosleftfoot
      @robinhosleftfoot 2 года назад +9

      @@gravemind6536 the result of automating everything. Only succeeds in dumbing down drivers

    • @drsnz
      @drsnz 2 года назад +4

      Agreed. I also don't understand why cars don;t have rear DRLs. At least it would help with the numpties who don't turn their lights on.

    • @Everything_Lincolnshire
      @Everything_Lincolnshire 2 года назад +2

      There's also the dumb drivers who never check their lights from head lights out to poorly eimed headlights and now its darker earlier you should be checking them at least once a week

  • @ibs5080
    @ibs5080 2 года назад +39

    Clip 8: From the in car conversation, sounds as though the cammer already decided there and then that this was material to send in to you Ash!

  • @kevincuthbert3058
    @kevincuthbert3058 2 года назад +40

    Ashley, you are a shining light in a world of darkness. I took the IAM test after 30 years of driving and it opened my eyes to improvement. Your videos are a very helpful learning aid and I find I see a lot of the hazards before they occur. Than you for what you do.

    • @marklittler784
      @marklittler784 2 года назад +1

      That RoSPA handbook by Nigel and Margaret Stacey with comic like clips of potential situations I thought was good.

  • @TheTradge
    @TheTradge 2 года назад +3

    So many drivers don’t seem to realise that they’re not rally drivers, yet seem dead set on turning their drives from A to B into a race, and that just gives them a competitive mentality towards their journey, which just isn’t necessary and will only potentially cause an accident.

  • @drbennyboombatz9195
    @drbennyboombatz9195 2 года назад +16

    7:20 I definitely wouldn't flash my lights, that could be interpreted as "go-ahead and do your maneuver"

    • @JoshAston23
      @JoshAston23 7 месяцев назад

      Not sure I would attempt to overtake 2 vehicles in one go either. Considerable distance to cover there before he tucks back into the left.

    • @Jhonfryet867
      @Jhonfryet867 4 месяца назад

      @@JoshAston23Long straight with good visibility and zero junctions.
      No issue with doing a multiple car overtake as long as there’s room to pull back in if need be. You just have to be aware of other drivers paying no attention and pulling out to overtake as demonstrated in the clip.

    • @almightyhydra
      @almightyhydra 2 месяца назад

      Not sure if the cam car indicated. If not, it's doubly bad - one for not signalling, and two for not signalling when a BMW of all things did!

  • @mymemeplex
    @mymemeplex 2 года назад +16

    5:26 What your and other uk dashcam video's have taught me is to not overtake directly after a roundabout in the UK.

    • @marklittler784
      @marklittler784 2 года назад +4

      And avoiding overtaking and undertaking on them.

    • @RidgwayBrandon
      @RidgwayBrandon 2 года назад

      I'm not sure how much the roundabout is linked to what happened here; there's normally very little issues overtaking near this roundabout in this direction and there's 2 clearly marked lanes to go straight on, and the road to the right is an Army Barracks so gets very little traffic that doesn't know the layout. Plus, the overtake was a little clear. I think the issue was actually a distracted driver who saw the bus lane markings late and tried to get out of it quickly. If they were paying attention; they would have seen the signs saying Bus Lane not in use, use both lanes

  • @320iSTWEdition
    @320iSTWEdition 2 года назад +4

    2:25 Another thing you should point out is the fact, that on a camera fog is NEVER as dense as it is in reality! So this was basically a blind overtake.

  • @MartinBarker
    @MartinBarker 2 года назад +9

    The Moran HGV, is because Moran are the shipping company for Arla, so they are often delivering large quantities of Milk (liquid in containers), so if something causes the liquid to start swaying it can be a problem of trying to counter is reinforcing the problem, as you say it seems like the driver is aware and it trying to control it and get somewhere safe to stop it.

    • @misterflibble9799
      @misterflibble9799 2 года назад

      Liquid in (rigid) containers only causes problems if the container is part-full, though. A full liquid container is not a problem because there is no room for the liquid to slosh around.
      I would have thought that it would be unlikely that you'd have milk in a large, part-filled container, inside a refrigerated box trailer. If it's carrying milk, then it would likely be in bottles (which would all be full), or perhaps IBCs (at least mostly full).
      My guess for that truck is either hanging meat (e.g. beef), or something on wheels (e.g. cages of bottles of milk) that's not been secured.

    • @MartinBarker
      @MartinBarker 2 года назад

      @@misterflibble9799 so I agree with most of what you're saying but 2 things I think matter with this that you seem to have acknowledged is a problem but then not realised it applies to a lorry full of plastic milk bottles, they have quite a bit of air at the top of them, the second point they are most definitely not ridged containers beside the scientific base definition of ridged of they can hold there shape on there own, they can't when any sort of pressure is applied to them.

    • @zxbzxbzxb1
      @zxbzxbzxb1 Год назад +1

      In that case I hope Arla were happy when their truckload of cheese was delivered 👍

  • @macbitz
    @macbitz 2 года назад +9

    Driving safely is about so much more than working the controls of the vehicle. It's about situational awareness, judgement, patience, commonsense and a host of other things. Sadly for many drivers they stop learning once they figure out how to work the pedals and the steering wheel.

    • @zaink7037
      @zaink7037 2 года назад

      Here in London I feel there's a lack of patience and common sense. People with bad lane discipline wanting to jump ahead of a few cars thinking they saved significant time 🤦. I'm happy I've learnt to be patient

  • @David-sw2fn
    @David-sw2fn 2 года назад +19

    06:46 A driver giving off a clear vibe that they’ve lost all situational awareness. Well done for hanging back. I don’t think the car intended to go through the red light. I can understand this to an extent. You don’t know where you’re going and suddenly at the junction there’s a whole bunch of white lines pointing to multiple lanes. No doubt the driver was distracted by something (maybe a SatNav). As I always says, drive safely, communicate what you’re doing, then worry about where you are.

    • @kenbrown2808
      @kenbrown2808 2 года назад +1

      and if you just make a habit of not trying to overtake people in junctions, - a habit the cammer seemed to do well at - there's a lot lower risk.

    • @David-sw2fn
      @David-sw2fn 2 года назад

      @@kenbrown2808 Agreed. High risk areas like that are the last places to try and make progress.

  • @ibs5080
    @ibs5080 2 года назад +5

    Clip 7 with the white pickup. Swerving between lanes with no signals whatsoever and tailgating...on a busy multi lane motorway. Not to mention undertaking on the hard shoulder. Police would have a field day with that!

  • @InstaSim6
    @InstaSim6 2 года назад +6

    My biggest gripe with Clip 16 is the BMW did the classic thing of indicating whilst moving out instead of indicating to move out. I think the cammer was travelling a bit too fast given the conditions, but it's very clear the BMW made no observations before attempting to overtake, I'm personally not sure if a flash of the lights would have helped.

    • @marklittler784
      @marklittler784 2 года назад +1

      Yeah of course there's also fast accelerating motorbikes you need to give a warning to that you might not see too.

  • @realhass
    @realhass 2 года назад +2

    @ 0:30 a lot of newly qualified drivers like speeding and forgeting all trainining they have received. As new a driver ( only 7 months as in Oct. 2022) I do find myself on those situations (want to speed) but then when I remember the voice of my instructor "WATCH YOUR SPEED HASS" then I quickly go back to my sense.

    • @jacksonkedward283
      @jacksonkedward283 2 года назад

      I think the bigger problem is the total lack of any education regarding car control (correcting slides etc) and reading the road surface to asses it's traction.

  • @RidgwayBrandon
    @RidgwayBrandon 2 года назад +11

    Hi Ash, Clip 12 is one of mine, although I was in the passenger seat at the time. I remember getting a feeling from the speed of the lorry that something wasn't quite right and was thinking about whether an overtake is safe. My mum (who was driving) I think possibly was following the car in front a bit combined with wanting to pass the slow vehicle to get home. I was still a learner at the time but it's one that's stuck with me and (hopefully) helps me put a bit more thought and observation in before I commit to going past. Cheers 👍

  • @barneyerror4561
    @barneyerror4561 2 года назад +2

    This man sounds very much like Bennett Foddy in “Getting Over It”. There’s just something about the calm voice that always seems to make situations calmer, and more hilarious.

  • @dannydee2668
    @dannydee2668 2 года назад +6

    The Audi driver at the end is worth keeping away from because no mot and not taxed so I'm guessing that any accident the drivers involved in they won't hang around to give details.

  • @yorkshirethegreat
    @yorkshirethegreat 2 года назад +6

    I'm not sure if I should be thanking you Ashley for curating these clips or your wonderful viewers for sending them in? Another great video.

  • @daddybeediary
    @daddybeediary 2 года назад +50

    "Prevention is always better than Reaction"
    Brilliant Ashley, I'll be applying this to my driving from now on 👍

  • @ibs5080
    @ibs5080 2 года назад +2

    Clip 11: Yes, the cammer could have "read the script earlier". For one thing, at around 5:05 you can see brake lights on the car that's parked on the left in the side street. Meaning it's occupied and hence could move off. Especially also as the cammer would be in the parked car's blind spot whilst they are coming up to make the turn. Yes, the driver of the parked car should have carried out all round observation, including a shoulder check behind and to their right but it's quite predictable that they might not do so,

  • @stevie-ray2020
    @stevie-ray2020 2 года назад +2

    Ashley; The voice of common-sense & wisdom!

  • @ibs5080
    @ibs5080 2 года назад +5

    At around 0:40, I have to say, I truly hate those narrow country lanes and find it quite nerve wracking not knowing what might be coming the other way. Doesn't help if you have an impatient tailgater behind and with nowhere reasonably wide enough to pull over and let the tailgater past, though i will do so if the opportunity arrises. Either way, folks drive way too fast on those narrow lanes. Doesn't help that my sat nav will send me down a narrow lane just because it thinks it's the faster route...and all just because it's a 60 mph NSL road! Edit: In this example, this "narrow" country lane was at least "wide enough" for white lines down the middle in places, but still "narrow".

    • @David-sw2fn
      @David-sw2fn 2 года назад +1

      Ah yes I feel your pain. This is exactly what my SatNav loves doing. Many a time I’ve found myself on a desperately narrow country lane, scratching my head while getting a close up view of a farm. Of course everyone else in the car is wondering why I’ve taken them on the scenic tour…

    • @ibs5080
      @ibs5080 2 года назад +2

      @@David-sw2fn I can totally relate. And I truly wish sat nav's had a setting for "Avoid Narrow Country Roads" in the same way that they have "Avoid Motorways" and "Avoid Toll Roads" etc. The issue is that sat navs are programmed to recognise these roads.

    • @grahambonner508
      @grahambonner508 2 года назад +1

      ​@@ibs5080 Maybe a sat nav for HGV would help?
      Another problem is that what were nice quiet, peaceful hamlets on country lanes get turned into rat runs.
      Outside rush hours they are my preferred roads for cycling.

    • @ibs5080
      @ibs5080 2 года назад

      @@grahambonner508 I did think about HGV sat nav actually but my thought is that this could then deny me many routes that would be perfectly decent for cars and send me on some long HGV diversions. Another solution is to do a dry run of a sat nav route before actually driving it and putting in an intermediate Via Point to get the route you actually want, thus avoiding the narrow country lane.

    • @stevekenilworth
      @stevekenilworth 9 месяцев назад

      i set my sat nav to avoid motorways, much more enjoyable taking the country route and so many places you can stop for rest. could take a simple 3 hour trip along motorway more stress and to get to first bathroom after motorway you really got to put foot down after average cameras even if only get caught in 20 min slow traffic. i stick to country roads you can always find a place to stop and i like to explore, simple 3 hour trip M6 around Birmingham, M54, A5 i actually head the wrong way i head south first then head towards the A44 A470 Towards Crossgates after that every trip from there i take a different route it means driving never gets boring you never get tired you to busy to get tired, so 3 hour trip fast roads anything from 5 hours half to longest drive 12 hours the 12 hours i decided to drive the coast west wales until i was in line with crossgates then head east, every trip add few way points through cut overs over few mountain roads what less used it makes a stress free drive and enjoyable but average is about 7 hours winter and about 8-9 hours in summer. just take lots mini stops, 5-10 mins and back on the road stop to long back pain sets in the rest trip horrid so try to keep moving with lts short stops so quick bathroom stop a quick smoke and back on the road. even my trip to scotland to the very north 1500 miles in total and mostly A roads all the way, can do 180 miles in about 8 hours in wales so its going to be a week plus long road trip going and exploring. ive always thought the trip away is a part of the holiday so i start my holiday for the journey too and now so many places i want to go back to with my better camera, holiday trip to coast as kid i always looked forward to the long drive still got that now @@ibs5080

  • @TheDantheman12121
    @TheDantheman12121 2 года назад +7

    0:36 I can imagine that he figures because he is on a national speed limit road he should be driving around the actual top speed allowed. Especially if someone was behind him.

    • @marklittler784
      @marklittler784 2 года назад +1

      Good they reduced the speed on many a few decades ago.

    • @TheDantheman12121
      @TheDantheman12121 2 года назад +1

      @@marklittler784 yeah, It always amazes me how they have these national speed limits on roads that seem dangerous to drive at 30 on lol.

    • @marklittler784
      @marklittler784 2 года назад

      @@TheDantheman12121 Yeah even 20mph on some bends and some are only a few hundred yards long. I think originally national speed limit roads were the responsibility of central government ?

  • @davidshipp623
    @davidshipp623 2 года назад +29

    I drove a Tesla for 7 years and encountered the lights and away situation a lot. The problem is the instant torque meaning you can easily seem like you are “racing” in the first few feet. This triggers certain drivers it seems, I ended up starting off as slowly as I could, preferably after the other car had already done so, but it actually took a bit of practice.

    • @zaink7037
      @zaink7037 2 года назад +2

      When I was learning to drive my instructor would tell me give way to the right including when at the front of traffic lights. Whenever I'm at the front of the lights and in the left lane I generally do let the car in the right lane get in front of me first. Sometimes their speed kind of gestures to me to go in front of them which I might do if safe to do so.
      Saying though about electric cars I had a Nissan leaf seem to speed off at the lights like he was trying to race in front of me. As you said though it must of been the instant torque from a standstill as he then proceeded to do 20mph in a 30 zone

    • @T-1001
      @T-1001 2 года назад

      @@Slicks21 I agree. I get overtaken all the time at a particular junction on my commute just the way you describe. Usually by people in Audis or BMWs knowing they can get away faster than my Corsa. Doesn't work against a Tesla though.

    • @----.__
      @----.__ Год назад

      @@zaink7037 The problem in the clip you're referencing is the fact the right lane is a right turn only lane. The Audi had moved to that lane with no intention of turning, and you'd have to almost wait for them to clear the intersection before pulling away because there wasn't a lane for them after the lights. In some cases it's best to outrun an issue just as much as it's sometimes best to wait out a situation. It all depends on many factors, unfortunately the only common denominator is that a-holes will always be around.

    • @zaink7037
      @zaink7037 Год назад

      @@----.__ ah if that's the case I'd see the audi in the wrong then. These people are really sad to think queue jumping in this means is going to save them significant time. Have reported a few drivers like this with a few of them getting action taken on them

    • @----.__
      @----.__ Год назад

      @@zaink7037 All good mate, I had to watch it a few times to see the arrows. Nonetheless, your logic is sound, as would be expected from someone with such a magnificent moustache :) Peace mate.

  • @jfergs.3302
    @jfergs.3302 2 года назад +21

    I must admit the litter one gave me a wry smile. The situation is pretty bad in Liverpool, and doesn't seem to improve much. I remember reading Bill Bryson's Notes from a Small Island when it came out in the mid 90's. He describes how after a few hours walking in the city, he thought he must have arrived right after a ticker-tape parade 🙂 Sadly, if he came back he'd find little has changed. I mean, how tricky is it to leave the stuff in the car till you get home, and then bin it...

    • @davidrobinson4118
      @davidrobinson4118 2 года назад +11

      It's not tricky at all. But when you are dealing with selfish anti-social morons you will never win.

    • @tony_w839
      @tony_w839 2 года назад +5

      A walk along a road in the countryside is just as bad, sadly.

    • @jfergs.3302
      @jfergs.3302 2 года назад

      @@davidrobinson4118 Indeed, sadly.

    • @ibs5080
      @ibs5080 2 года назад +4

      Oh I do like Bill Bryson's writings! Especially as I'm a dual Brit Canadian and have also spent a lot of the time in Bill's homeland of the USA. Anyhow maybe see you on the road to Little Dribbling!

    • @PedroConejo1939
      @PedroConejo1939 2 года назад +3

      Send the clip to the LA. The driver (actually, the registered keeper) is responsible even if they won't identify the passenger.

  • @Touchofbond
    @Touchofbond 2 года назад +5

    I’ve been watching your videos for a few months, as I’m currently learning to drive in St Helens. Instructor took me to the Moss Bank roundabout you showed in one of your videos; what a strange roundabout!

  • @will4may175
    @will4may175 2 года назад +27

    I always think it's a great idea to have your company name i.e. Tatton Drives & Patios painted over your truck while driving like a Juan kerr.
    I genuinely hope that clip made it to the police, too many focus on getting it on social media rather than giving it a chance to cause some punishment for them no matter how small.

    • @CycolacFan
      @CycolacFan 2 года назад +6

      I certainly hope people don’t go to his website and leave poor reviews based on his dangerous driving. That would be awful…

    • @dopiaza2006
      @dopiaza2006 2 года назад +3

      @@CycolacFan Yes, I certainly won't be doing or encouraging that......

    • @zaink7037
      @zaink7037 2 года назад

      I hope so that it was reported. I don't understand why people drive like that.

  • @damian-795
    @damian-795 Год назад +1

    07:21 Rate the overtake = Terrible, unnecessary , dangerous. Also there is water pooling on right verge entering road which presents potential aquaplaning hazard.

  • @Aj-qy3kg
    @Aj-qy3kg Год назад

    I'm 30 hours in from tomorrow got driving lesson tomorrow and just finding bigger roundabout hard ATM leaving and switching lanes, great video Ashley Neal again catching up on them all 👍💯

  • @adamrules01
    @adamrules01 2 года назад +1

    The tractor coming out like that is basically every reaction test i got in my theory exam haha! that's why whenever i see a red tractor on the road my brain automatically identifies it as a threat :D

  • @denaco
    @denaco 2 года назад +7

    That last clip, you can almost smell the insecurities of the guy in the audi

  • @DAFPvnk
    @DAFPvnk 2 года назад +3

    5:46 (clip 13) Appears to me that the driver has somehow rear-loaded their trailer. Good video to demonstrate why you should load from the front first whenever possible.

    • @JulianShagworthy
      @JulianShagworthy 2 года назад

      Yeah I was curious about how they'd accomplish that in a box trailer - I could understand in a curtainsider if their first drop was on the front (in which case it shouldn't have left the yard or done it second drop instead), but... The only thing I can think of is that he was picking up, say, 6 heavy pallets and stuck a bar across a few metres in and loaded to the rear doors to make unloading easier...

    • @kenbrown2808
      @kenbrown2808 2 года назад

      @@JulianShagworthy with the axles that far back, it would be challenging to accomplish.

    • @DAFPvnk
      @DAFPvnk 2 года назад

      @@JulianShagworthy or he was running cages, had them strapped in with a single strap that gave out during the drive. Forcing the cages to back of trailer.

  • @_Steven_S
    @_Steven_S 2 года назад +4

    I've seen Ranger's (usually the lifted ones) driving around waaaaay more dangerously than that through town centres! No dashcam in the work van unfortunately.

  • @thewaywardgrape3838
    @thewaywardgrape3838 2 года назад +1

    As a former test engineer that road tested tractors: Don't tailgate tractors, especially with trailers. I've had someone crash into me and both passengers ended up in the air ambulance. Whatever room you think is enough, double it. For your own safety!

    • @eziitis8
      @eziitis8 4 месяца назад

      Same thing with HGVs, do not tail gate them and also do not cut Infront of them when slowing down.

  • @ibs5080
    @ibs5080 2 года назад +6

    Clip 6 in the fog. As well as the dodgy overtake, the overtaking car seemed to be travelling way too fast to be able to stop within the distance it could see to be clear in the fog.

    • @highdownmartin
      @highdownmartin 2 года назад +3

      I remember one ridiculous overtake in the fog after a long straight and just before a sharp left. I ended up following him as he realised that I was going as fast as it was safe to go, and once his pathfinder was behind him suddenly he was the one that had to do all the work.

  • @brantnuttall
    @brantnuttall 2 года назад +2

    7:53 personally, I wouldn't have done it. However, that's a powerful car and although it was raining, I'd say very safe. Probably 10/10.

  • @nigelfarley814
    @nigelfarley814 2 года назад +1

    I remember many years ago a tractor arrived at a junction with the baler tines raised. It was just as a double deck bus was approaching. The tines went straight through the upper deck of the bus. Luckily no-one was hurt as all school kids on board saw it coming and moved to the other side of the bus

  • @clivewilliams3661
    @clivewilliams3661 2 года назад +4

    Its a shame that learner drivers aren't taught how to handle a car, a lot of this is down to the way that learner drivers gain their experience before passing a test, which is a result of a combination of factors:
    1) No time is given to getting a feel for the car in a safe environment with skid control and the like. I had the advantage of playing around on a grassy field with an old van and my daughters had occasions at various car club (I'm a member) venues to experiment. There are various skid pans that are available but very rarely used as part of driving tuition. Does Ashley encourage his student to experience that?
    2) Modern cars are very adept and their limits of adhesion are too high for most learners and when it is lost it is beyond their ability to even attempt recovery so disaster ensues.
    3) The majority of driving school learning is carried out at very moderate speeds in and around urban areas where skidding rarely occurs, which results from a desire to maximise the students ability to pass the test, not to learn how to drive.
    4) Car insurance for learners is too high to allow any experience to be had in the majority of cases. Families are lucky if they have a small car that can be insured for a learner but most don't.
    5) My right of passage to getting a car license was to get a scooter with a provisional license at 16 that taught me a huge amount about road conditions because failure to learn that would see you dumped on the floor! Too many learners go straight into cars which isolate them from the conditions.
    Having a probationary period is not about education but punishment. Passing your driving test should then follow on with more (mandatory?) focused development.

    • @marklittler784
      @marklittler784 2 года назад

      I rode a 12 gear racing bicycle at 30-45mph as a kid, I know I put a Speedo on it you learn escape routes that don't involve braking.

  • @QiuEnnan
    @QiuEnnan Год назад +1

    7:21 extremely poor - obviously breaking the speed limit and involving serious tailgating beforehand (remember, AT LEAST a four-second gap is needed in wet conditions).

  • @stephenjohnston8282
    @stephenjohnston8282 2 года назад

    Ashley even though I drive professionally for a living ie have LGV and pcv licence it a complete pleasure to watch your dascam photages and learned some interesting driving advice even after 38 years as a licence holder

  • @scottking869
    @scottking869 2 года назад +2

    That speeding round country lanes is the exact type of thing i did when i first passed my test getting cocky in the rain. I went up a ramp of the side and luckily a van passed and pulled me down. That was the last time i done something stupid.

  • @marklittler784
    @marklittler784 2 года назад +2

    MF71 XBP was definitely tailgating especially at 64mph remember some vehicles are hired or borrowed or being sold on so the one driving now might not be the one driving then.

  • @WouterKoenders
    @WouterKoenders 2 года назад +3

    3:10 Of course the inpatient driver at fault, but I think the viewer could have communicated his intentions by indicating early (I don't think I hear an indicator). If I have a car like this on my bumper I would start indicating left when i am still next to the lorry and move over when its safe.

  • @JoshuaNicoll
    @JoshuaNicoll Год назад

    The junction at 04:54 is in Dublin, Ireland, just beside St. Patricks church in Ringsend.

  • @Plexipal
    @Plexipal 2 года назад +3

    Well done using my clip Ash. Now I’m famous! Get ready for an onslaught of clips 😂

    • @Jonc25
      @Jonc25 2 года назад

      I miss the Pie Factory.

  • @paulfaulkner6299
    @paulfaulkner6299 2 года назад +2

    The levels of impatience and stupidity never cease to amaze me

  • @Techathy
    @Techathy 2 года назад

    7:20 - As the car in front is close to the centre line (generally an indication they're evaluating an overtake themselves) I'd typically move to a centreline straddling position (e.g. the position they were in around 7:28) and have a short pause before making my overtake decision and committing (it also gives a clear signal to others "I'm looking for the overtake and about to go"). This gives a clear view of the road and allows for the driver in front to commit an overtake themselves or for you to verify that it's just a single-vehicle overtake. As for a flash of the headlights, this more often than not induces a blocking road position.

    • @kiradotee
      @kiradotee 2 года назад

      It probably wasn't obvious to the cammer but if you reach 2 cars one of which is stuck behind a slow moving one, there's a good chance they're evaluating an overtake.

    • @Techathy
      @Techathy 2 года назад

      I totally agree hence why you go to that centre line straddling position. It's a the last pause and evaluate chance allowing for a "I think this is on and I'm going to give my self a half second look just to confirm my assumptions/observations are true" moment.

  • @aquanick2001
    @aquanick2001 2 года назад +3

    7:03 - absolute proof that the driving test is too easy if this “driver” actually has a license 😂

  • @theslavicimmigrant4795
    @theslavicimmigrant4795 2 года назад +8

    3:09 impatience is one thing, another problem is that a lot of drivers hog the rightmost lane(especially annoying if you flash them multiple times to move over since they aren't overtaking anybody and they won't move) and half the time, the middle and left lanes travel at a faster speed leading to impatience, anger and dangerous manoeuvres

    • @Cohen.the.Worrier
      @Cohen.the.Worrier 2 года назад

      3:09 there are two lories on the left lane and the car moves to the left as soon as he can. The driver of that Ford is a retard and shouldn't be allowed to drive a shopping cart.

    • @StefanVeenstra
      @StefanVeenstra 2 года назад +2

      There's no hogging when people on the fastlane keep to the speed limit.
      Although place on the road is a thing. If there's room in one of other lanes and it isn't going much slower, might as well make room for the narcissists driving like highway codes are not for them. No use escalating it to something more dangerous.

    • @notcrediblesolipsism3851
      @notcrediblesolipsism3851 2 года назад +4

      @@StefanVeenstra
      Highway code, rule 264 - Keep in the left lane unless overtaking. If you are overtaking, you should return to the left lane when it is safe to do so.
      There is no excuse for driving in the right-hand lane when there is no-one to your left

    • @RichO1701e
      @RichO1701e 2 года назад +4

      you shouldn't be flashing any road user to get out of your way.

    • @marklittler784
      @marklittler784 2 года назад +1

      Sat nav said camera car was doing 64mph trucks are limited to 60mph speed limit was obviously 70mph and lane 1&2 was clear ahead!

  • @UnbeltedSundew
    @UnbeltedSundew 2 года назад +4

    7:46 Frankly the guy they were overtaking looked to be going about the appropriate speed for the road conditions. I didn't hear a signal clicking from the cammer, but he may have signaled. But in any case if you are overtaking on a two lane road you should be wary of people only focusing on what is in front of them for what is a stressful maneuver.

    • @marklittler784
      @marklittler784 2 года назад

      Should know your there if you've got your headlamps on especially.

    • @UnbeltedSundew
      @UnbeltedSundew 2 года назад

      @@marklittler784 If you base your driving on what people should be doing rather than what they are doing you are very likely to end up in one of these fail videos.

    • @marklittler784
      @marklittler784 2 года назад

      @@UnbeltedSundew You've got three mirrors you don't necessarily need to be paying particular attention to them to notice a vehicle behind with headlamps on though.

    • @copperfield3629
      @copperfield3629 2 года назад

      @@marklittler784 You're assuming the other drivers involved are as diligent and focused while driving as you are. Take a look around you sometime and validate that assumption (or, better, just watch a bunch of Ashley's videos) - I think you'd be in for a rude surprise. Consider the VW driver who veered all over the roundabout then ran a red light on leaving it, for example...

    • @marklittler784
      @marklittler784 2 года назад

      @@copperfield3629 That's what I'm saying it was dusk and the headlights of the Cammer were definitely on you can see them lighting up the back of the white BMW they stood out a mile at that time, you didn't need to be especially diligent to notice.

  • @xaiano794
    @xaiano794 2 года назад

    2:00 I'm an impatient car driver and it always amazes me how many people who want to overtake will close to within feet of cyclists or vehicles when as you say, if you leave a much larger gap you can pass quicker and easier AND leave a safe space for the cyclist should anything happen.
    Win win

  • @paulcollyer801
    @paulcollyer801 2 года назад +9

    Re Police hands being tied, it’s more complicated than that. Most forces have 3 levels of Police officer driver. (Lets call the 3, 2, & 1, with 1 being the best.)
    Level 3 must remain within the highway code & can only use lights stopped at incidents or to pull someone over. If someone drives off they must disengage.
    Level 2 can use blues & twos to drive outside the highway code as & when required, & if additionally trained may pursue. If a level 1 joins the pursuit level 2 must draw back and let level 1 lead.
    Level 3 are trained to a very high standard, very hard to pass the course, and will then be eligible for T-PAC & potentially tactical contact with bikes (very specialised training).
    If you ever see a marked car do nothing, it’s probably a level 3 driver.

  • @DAFPvnk
    @DAFPvnk 2 года назад +2

    8:30 nice! Up on the poavement to avoid getting caught by traffic cameras for entering a road unlawfully.

  • @simmybear31
    @simmybear31 2 года назад

    We have some Nutters in Northampton but I'm afraid for the sheer number of Scally's per square kilometre Merseyside holds a record. Thanks again for your efforts to educate us all.

  • @steves5172
    @steves5172 Год назад

    Hi Ashley, in clip 16 - conditions of rain, wet road and failing light should have stopped any overtake. The white car pulled out with zero observation BUT had space enough to pull out a second time and cause a collision. This has happened to me more than once!

  • @collynkieranmclaughlan6983
    @collynkieranmclaughlan6983 2 года назад +1

    4:00
    Saw an example of this today, coach/bus was parked letting people off and had indicator on, on the left. The two cars that were right behind the bus was still there in the queue and were there for at least 3 minutes before drivers behind saw the road was clear. I was sitting in the van laughing my head off 🤣🤣

  • @steve5772
    @steve5772 2 года назад +18

    I must admit, when Tesla's first came out over here, I attempted to keep up with one as we both pulled out of a layby onto a dual carriageway. I was in a reasonably quick car and was a bit curious about their reputation for acceleration. I soon learnt that there wasn't any point trying to keep up with one and never tried again.

    • @andrewthomas2406
      @andrewthomas2406 2 года назад +2

      nothing worse than a properly powered vehicle getting beat by some sh*ty battery car.

    • @se-kmg355
      @se-kmg355 2 года назад +2

      Since you get virtually instant torque in an EV, a combustion engine is bound to lose I am afraid.

    • @Monkeh616
      @Monkeh616 2 года назад +6

      @@andrewthomas2406 Nothing worse than a caveman thinking burning highly processed oil is a better way to create motion than harnessing magnetic fields properly.
      Thankfully, engineers know better.

    • @hughchilds5888
      @hughchilds5888 2 года назад +6

      @@andrewthomas2406 do you drive an Audi by any chance?!

  • @Jabular1
    @Jabular1 2 года назад +2

    Tractors are scary when you're on a bicycle. One of those massive tractors with the huge tyres front and back come flying past me at full speed down a country road. The road was only wide enough for him but I couldn't move over because there was a ditch on each side. He could have moved over a bit into the ditch or slowed down but no. Imagine one of those wheels right up at the side of you at 25 mph. It was the closest pass I've ever had ..... bought some new bib shorts that weekend🤣

  • @kostas1003
    @kostas1003 2 года назад +4

    6:55 he breaks some rule at least once a second, just woah.

  • @st200ol
    @st200ol 2 года назад +5

    MF71 XBP - I do hope the driver of that one got a NIP in the post. Edit not taxed either.

    • @trueriver1950
      @trueriver1950 2 года назад +1

      I was wondering if the MF on the number plate meant what our American friends would think ...

  • @PedroConejo1939
    @PedroConejo1939 2 года назад +10

    Autumn is upon us, the season of mellow fruitloops who drive their Nissan Micras with one sidelight; of wet, slippy roads and wet, slippy brains; of falling temperatures and falling IQs. I both love and hate this time of year. So much light-related nonsense, impatient speeding and utter cluelessness.
    Thanks for highlighting some of this, Ash.
    And thank you to everyone who submits these clips to the police before sending them to Ashley. We have to take community responsibility for dealing with these potentially lethal drivers - and litterers.

    • @bluebellmalarkey3538
      @bluebellmalarkey3538 2 года назад +1

      Ah, yes, the mellow fruitloops of Keats's poem!! Too funny, Peter Rabbit🤣Thanks for the laugh!

    • @pifko87
      @pifko87 2 года назад

      Had to go out in the late afternoon for some shopping. Arrived in daylight, parked at an underground car park. Time to drive home and because of the lit underground parking I don't realise it's now dark outside. Numpty here was driving for at least a mile without his lights on, despite various motorists flashing me. Oops!

    • @PedroConejo1939
      @PedroConejo1939 2 года назад +2

      @@pifko87 Everyone does it from time to time, that's why it's always worth giving a quick flash to remind them. With so many back-lit instrument panels, one of the main indicators of lights off in the dark has gone. I know not all cars have the facility, but I leave mine on auto lights by default these days. Fog is the main problem with that as often it doesn't trigger the auto lights - having said that, I'm pretty keen on that one.

  • @stephencopps1561
    @stephencopps1561 Год назад +1

    Even though I'm only looking at film my right foot is hovering over the imaginary brake pedal 😂

  • @mikewade777
    @mikewade777 2 года назад +1

    The first clip reminds me of a comment from a retired US police officer on a video about ''should cyclists wear helmets''. The cyclist because of the low sun did not see the dropped tailgate of a reversing truck that stopped to let the cyclist past. The helmet did not protect his face or save his life.

  • @matthewiles5714
    @matthewiles5714 2 года назад +2

    00:56 - Can't the police give the motorcyclist a fine and points on the driving licence for dangerous or reckless driving or driving without due care and attention?

    • @JohnSmith-yv6eq
      @JohnSmith-yv6eq 2 года назад

      Catch them first...
      no plate???? Stolen bike? false plates?????

  • @craigkearns6425
    @craigkearns6425 2 года назад +2

    Clip 7, pickups are the new Audi drivers, this example and three instances I’ve had this week

  • @ibs5080
    @ibs5080 2 года назад +3

    Clip 15: The VW just about made every mistake humanely possible, including not only being all over the place with respect to the marked lanes but also running the red light!

    • @ilikechickensausages2075
      @ilikechickensausages2075 2 года назад +1

      Clip 15 you mean

    • @ibs5080
      @ibs5080 2 года назад +3

      @@ilikechickensausages2075 Well spotted! I've gone back and corrected it now. Apologies for my poor observation...and no I wasn't the driver of the VW, though this may still indeed count as a Viewer Fail!

    • @ilikechickensausages2075
      @ilikechickensausages2075 2 года назад

      @@ibs5080 😉👍

  • @tigerarw
    @tigerarw 2 года назад +1

    7:00 Solihull roundabout, probably one of the most confusing roundabouts ever lol

  • @archechme
    @archechme 2 года назад +8

    Got the complete package with the Audi driver at the end. Old Audi ✓ high mileage ✓ diesel ✓ driving like a complete turnip ✓ cheap ebay LED side lights flickering probably with a CANBUS error on the dash ✓ perfect.

    • @1ninjatiger
      @1ninjatiger 2 года назад +2

      The flickering always happens when you record led lights..that wont be visible to the naked eye. Correct on every other point though.

    • @thromboid
      @thromboid 2 года назад +1

      I wonder if self-driving AIs will learn to spot these sorts of risk factors too. :)

    • @archechme
      @archechme 2 года назад

      @@1ninjatiger Yes but i can guarantee they'll be flickering by the naked eye too, they always do because they're terrible quality.

    • @1ninjatiger
      @1ninjatiger 2 года назад

      @@archechme well you can’t really “guarantee” it lol some of the aftermarket lights are pretty good. A lot of these guys do spend a lot of money on their older cars. Can’t be sure about this moron though eh.

    • @stonestreaker
      @stonestreaker 2 года назад

      Also playing right turn lane/straight on bingo.

  • @thoughtful_criticiser
    @thoughtful_criticiser 2 года назад +2

    I hope that several of the clips had been submitted to the police for action. Then only sent to Ashley after the police advise they no longer need it. The clips I would have submitted are the undertaking/tailgating Tatton, driving through the red light, moped on the pavement, the 4x4 on the pavement with the pedestrian and the Audi chasing the Tesla. Let the police educate the driver and when they have finished let Ashley educate everyone. I was fortunate to have been trained within 15 months of passing my L test to drive at very high speed (legally) in all conditions and predict the probable behaviour of other drivers, skills which I have honed over my driving career. Whilst I cannot help anyone with the first skill, the second is available to anyone. The IAM Roadsmart can help you become a better and safer driver, without breaking the bank as well as being beneficial when insurance renewal date comes around.

  • @Flipmole123
    @Flipmole123 2 года назад +8

    6:32 The entitlement of drivers knows no bounds. Not happy that pedestrians in towns and cities are hemmed into the most meagre and narrow of pavements, now they're using their 4x4s to mount pavements and kill others just to save a few precious seconds

  • @welshwizard645
    @welshwizard645 2 года назад +1

    Last clip re racing off the line. I get people challenging me when I am in the Golf R-Line, you can see it and I mouth …it’s only a 1.4!!! They see the R and think I have the 300Ps…I wave as they waste their petrol..

  • @raithrover1976
    @raithrover1976 2 года назад +1

    Overtaking other vehicles at the start of a section of bus lane is always risky. You might be aware of the bus lane's operational hours but there's a good chance the other driver won't be and will instinctively move into the right hand lane.

  • @mentaldavethefirst
    @mentaldavethefirst 2 года назад +2

    5:16 looks like it is the A5116 in to Chester having turned off the A41. The van appears to be the army bomb disposal van and given they have just gone past the barracks I'm surprised they are so unsure of their location!

    • @RidgwayBrandon
      @RidgwayBrandon 2 года назад

      Yes, that's exactly where it is (I sent the clip in and didn't recognise the location so 👍) I was shocked both of that and that they didn't turn in

    • @trueriver1950
      @trueriver1950 2 года назад +1

      Visiting squaddies from elsewhere??

  • @gftyhify
    @gftyhify 2 года назад +2

    I’ve been overtaken in fog that was so thick you could barely see a few inches in front of you.

  • @juliancarter557
    @juliancarter557 Год назад

    It never ceases to amaze me how attached some folk are to the horn button. I have been driving nearly 40 years and often cant remember where the horn is, (in my defense I have several vehicles where the horn is situated differently). I cant say I havent done some stupid things in the past though.

  • @shm5547
    @shm5547 2 года назад +1

    7:20 the cammer was going way too fast for the conditions. Crossed a junction, with a vehicle that _could_ have pulled out, at 60mph in heavy rain! Then went for a flying overtake at over 70mph. The BMW driver was very wrong to pull out without looking, but the cammers reactions were very poor. Yes, they managed to brake, however, the use of the horn was FAR too late, clearly the cammer was not anticipating this and did not have their hand on the horn ready during this manoeuvre.

  • @1blackballed
    @1blackballed 2 года назад +4

    The police seem to have gave up on basic crime in general from what we see on a daily basis!

  • @julesw4037
    @julesw4037 2 года назад +1

    At 7.25 into the video - Mr Neal might have reminded road users, before overtaking - mirror, signal. manoeuvre. This incident is common, for some reason, a lot with BMW and Audi drivers. My motorcycle was destroyed in an incident like this, but in dry and sunny conditions.

  • @richardough5004
    @richardough5004 2 года назад +1

    Clip 12: An RLC Bomb disposal vehicle. This would have been driven by an LGV driver who had received additional blue light training before being allowed out on the roads. Not a good advertisement for someone who is supposed to drive to a much higher standard than ordinary road users.

  • @grahamnutt8958
    @grahamnutt8958 2 года назад +2

    Plenty of "squeaky bum" moments - most of which could easily have been avoided 🤔. The opening clip was too close for comfort and very much reminded me of another 📽 featured on your channel last year.
    Poor Roadcraft is the disease; Ash might be the cure.
    Stay safe out there.

  • @mcgherkinstudios
    @mcgherkinstudios 2 года назад +2

    The reason I’d be hanging back from that EOD truck is because I’ve seen their efforts at engineering before and let me say there’s a reason why you’re chosen to go play with bombs, and it’s not because you’re valuable.

  • @fervent2896
    @fervent2896 2 года назад

    I found the dark VW approaching the roundabout most interesting in this clip. The cam car maintains a safe speed behind the car as the VW looks unsure. Patience pays off and the cam car possibly avoids the VW merging into them. 😊

  • @jonnycraig183
    @jonnycraig183 2 года назад +1

    I agree with you regarding the quality of some family members instruction (but have to say I was lucky with mine as my dad was an advance motoring instructor) I was walking over a DIY store care park and caught someone being instructed to do a reverse park they successfully did park but would have failed as didn't do any observations other than looking over the same shoulder (I politely let them know they would failed due to observations and they accepted the advice)

  • @paulcollyer801
    @paulcollyer801 2 года назад +2

    Clip 7, can never understand the mentality of idiots doing such things in liveried vehicles. (Unless self employed.)
    High time insurance companies had a show & tell reporting system, such that drivers like this can be charged a premium suitable for their driving style, and not their luck in avoiding police

  • @TheLordHiggs
    @TheLordHiggs Год назад +1

    5:35 Almost crashing into a bomb disposal vehicle. Lol

  • @nightw4tchman
    @nightw4tchman 2 года назад +1

    1:53 Cyclists trying to tell me to pass annoy me a little. I won't go till I judge it to be safe.

  • @AdrianNelson1507
    @AdrianNelson1507 2 года назад +2

    Many learning opportunities here, though I worry that the people who need to learn aren't watching! 👍😊

  • @yozzacup
    @yozzacup 2 года назад

    4:48, so bad for that. I’m sat in the car park where the SUV was trying to go currently, not long after that exact thing happened to me

  • @marklittler784
    @marklittler784 2 года назад +2

    #11 Often worth pulling your window down before moving from being parked it shows from a mile away the cars got life to it and could move away anytime soon.

    • @angledwallaby
      @angledwallaby 2 года назад

      It’s a reason I always drive with dipped lights on. It shows front and rear that the car is ‘live’. It helps differentiate between parked and stopped vehicles that can move off at any moment

    • @marklittler784
      @marklittler784 2 года назад

      @@angledwallaby Yeah sometimes you get caught out like I was dropping someone off at about 3am in a residential area and no sooner had I started pulling away a car parked on the opposite side ahead pulled out from the kerb with no lights.

  • @stuartmcconnachie
    @stuartmcconnachie 2 года назад

    0:36 “Piloted” is totally correct - they were absolutely flying!
    1:32 The Mazda driver certainly didn’t “miss” the Porsche driver though 😮

  • @smallkid444
    @smallkid444 2 года назад +1

    That 7:25 clip I had to pause because of how uncomfortable that speed in those conditions made me. It's insane to me that someone thought that was a good idea.

    • @roaduser6438
      @roaduser6438 2 года назад +1

      The cammer was doing 70mph on a road that was 60 at most. You're right to think that overtake was a bad idea. It baffles me the number of people who are saying that there was nothing wrong with it.

  • @carusmike
    @carusmike 2 года назад +4

    I always try to drive as if Ashley's watching me. Sod the police. It's Ashley that scares the crapoutame.

  • @nanookmoose
    @nanookmoose 2 года назад

    I don't think I would have messed with the bomb disposal lorry at 5:39. They're usually quite solid.

  • @ibs5080
    @ibs5080 2 года назад +1

    Clip 14 with the car mounting the pavement to get ahead...and in poor visibility. That deserves a driving ban right there! I wonder also if that motorist is the type who gets angry when a pedestrian legitimately has priority when crossing in front of them...and yet it's OK for the motorist to drive on the pavement.

  • @andrewdaley5480
    @andrewdaley5480 2 года назад

    Got to admit that in car camera you recommend is very good I noticed how much lighter and sharp the picture was in low light conditions. 🇬🇧👍

  • @TheEulerID
    @TheEulerID 2 года назад +2

    For the overtake clip at @7:20, then, personally speaking, I am always very, very cautious if considering overtaking more than one vehicle, and only do so after allowing ample time for the second in the queue to overtake a slower moving vehicle first. As it is, the cammer appears to have started the overtaking manoeuvre almost as soon as the hatched lane. The conditions, with wet spray and poor visibility would have made me hesitate over that move, and I'd certainly have given some time for the second in line vehicle to overtake. I'd feel very uncomfortable doing a double in wet conditions.
    I have processed the longitude/latitude figures for the clip, and for the period from the start until 17:16:29 on the dashcam, the cammer was averaging 50.4 mph, which is not ridiculously slow given the conditions. From that point, the cammer starts accelerating reaching 65 mph at the 17:16:32 interval when the white car signals to overtake. However, rather than backing off then, the acceleration continues reaching 71 mph at 17:16:34 a couple of seconds later. Then the speed drops rapidly, falling to 42 mph at 17:16:37 due to some fairly heavy braking.
    Whilst there is some lag in the updating of co-ordinates of course, it seems to me the cammer ought to have backed off the instant the white car started to signal, whilst from the stats is seems it took a couple of seconds for that to have happened. The white car is, of course, culpable for not looking first, but there is a matter of self preservation here.
    There is, of course, the issue of speeding when overtaking. That is, whatever the law might say about the matter, is it safer to briefly go over the speed limit to minimise the time spent on the "wrong" side of the road or should you pass at the legal speed limit? In this case, the cammer would have had no more than 10 mph in hand for the overtake at the legal speed limit. With a 2 second interval between vehicles (arguably more in the rain), and the speed they were travelling, he/she would have had to gain 74 metres to pull in safely (2 x 4 metre car lengths + 3 x 22 metre gaps). That speed differential of just 10 mph (4.5 metres per second) would have meant the passing manoeuvre would have taken over 16 seconds unless he/she closed the gap before moving out. In 16 seconds, that lead car would have covered 352 metres. If a car had been coming the other way at the legal speed limit of 60 mph (26.8 metres per second), then that would have travelled 429 metres in the opposite direction
    What this means, is that the cammer would have to be able to see that there was a clear gap of almost 800 metres free of on-coming traffic. That's half a mile, and I wonder if anybody can see that far in such wet conditions. Of course passing at 70 mph, the time is halved, and the required gap is halved, as you have twice the differential speed.
    I should add that the section of the A1303 shown (near Newmarket) is dead straight for another 1.9 km from where the overtake started with no side roads so in clear visibility it might not be a huge problem.

    • @R04drunner1
      @R04drunner1 2 года назад

      Impressive analysis!
      I was taught by IAM Roadcraft to only overtake at the legal limit, but I agree it sometimes seems safer to go faster to reduce the TED (time exposed to danger). My instructor's comment was that if I needed to plan to exceed the speed limit then my overtake wouldn't be safe, so I shouldn't do it. I took the point, but I'd still prioritise safety in a situation like that.

    • @TheEulerID
      @TheEulerID 2 года назад +1

      @@R04drunner1 Thanks. I don't believe many people realise just how far you travel when overtaking, especially a double overtake like this (which I would have been very reluctant to do in those conditions). Generally, when I overtake I want to get it done as quickly as possible, and looking at the speedometer is not a priority, which is another way of saying that I undoubtedly do go over the speed limits at times (note, I'm not talking of dual carriageways where the issue doesn't arise).
      However, I'd say overtaking is, for me, a rarity (unless I count cyclists). It's hazardous and unless there's a significant margin to the speed limit, it's not worth the limited time gained.

    • @R04drunner1
      @R04drunner1 2 года назад

      @@TheEulerID totally agree. I've learned to let the frustration slide, sit back and enjoy the ride.