Testing the new OXO Carbon Steel pan vs Matfer, and wow!

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  • Опубликовано: 11 дек 2024

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  • @kathismatastic
    @kathismatastic Год назад +12

    So glad to see a review of the Oxo pan. I bought mine when there was hardly anything review-wise available and really liked it.

  • @edwardcasper5231
    @edwardcasper5231 Год назад +17

    The OXO pan looks very similar to the Chinese made BK black carbon steel pan I have. It won't surprise me if I find out that both are made in the same factory. The reason I bought the BK is that I could get it at a store instead of using mail order. I guess I'm a bit old fashioned that way, My pan is 12 inches in diameter and I think it's deliberately bowed up slightly at the center (to reduce the possibility of creating a pan that spins). I routinely cook hash browns and eggs in it with excellent results.

    • @stylis666
      @stylis666 Год назад +1

      That's good to read. I just ordered a BK black carbon steel pan so I didn't have to go to a store :p I live on the edge of the world, so stores are a luxury for people with money. I have never cooked with carbon steel so how much of a rip off that relatively cheap pan was gonna be. Apparently it's gonna be just fine. A lot better than the $15 and $18 dollar stainless steel I bought before doing some homework XD But hey, you live, you learn, and I can surely still make some sauces in the pan until the bottom falls off from deglazing :p Might take years, who knows :) By that time I probably have some money for a better pan for tomato sauces and indonesian dishes :)
      My brother says that cast iron is good for sauces but I really don't like the weight. I still have to be able to hold it with one hand while scraping the sauce out while pouring it.

    • @Obsidian369
      @Obsidian369 5 месяцев назад

      All made in china by same company... Makes many brands.. all garbage

    • @mansoural7050
      @mansoural7050 3 месяца назад

      Well I have Bk but after awhile it got many white spots and a lot of black residue even though I clean it all the time? But I can’t get rid of this residue! Does anyone have any advice? Or just Chinese garbage!!!!

    • @edwardcasper5231
      @edwardcasper5231 3 месяца назад

      @@mansoural7050
      I have no clue. I don't have any of those problems. My pan has been an absolute champ.

  • @NateJamesAcoustic
    @NateJamesAcoustic Год назад +9

    This was a great review to see. I’m a huge fan of matfer’s pans but am currently teaching a friend some cooking basics who doesn’t quite have the arm strength to handle the weight of the matfer. this oxo looks like the perfect solution. Thanks Cook Culture! You have some awesome content!

    • @Cook-Culture
      @Cook-Culture  Год назад +1

      Thanks for the support!

    • @peterl.104
      @peterl.104 Год назад

      Maybe you should incorporate strength training into your curriculum. J/k, it would be funny if you did though. Like Mr. Miyagi in Karate Kid.

    • @Obsidian369
      @Obsidian369 5 месяцев назад

      Stay with Matfer regardless of cost... Oxo is chinese garbage

  • @samias.8498
    @samias.8498 Год назад +11

    In my opinion, this is fine for lightweight use, the way is was used in this video, but for meats we need a heavier pan than retains heat better. I would consider buying a small-sized Oxo pan for eggs, for instance.

    • @Thejzzman4
      @Thejzzman4 Год назад +2

      That's right. One of my primary uses for carbon steel is high heat searing of meat and I don't believe the light oxo would perform as well for that purpose. For eggs I use either carbon steel, cast iron or non-stick depending on what I'm doing exactly. The non-stick has lasted for years because I'm using it appropriately.

  • @boudreaux1
    @boudreaux1 Год назад +2

    OXO has a version of this pan that is perforated and intended for cooking over live fire. Made a stir fry with it and flavor of the meat and veggies was an improvement over stove top use.

  • @ThomasWilliams-ee6li
    @ThomasWilliams-ee6li Год назад +6

    I have both the Matfer and the deBuyer pans and love them. I think the Oxo would be great for our camper which currently has nonstick pans.

    • @Cook-Culture
      @Cook-Culture  Год назад +1

      Good call!

    • @charlesjacques750
      @charlesjacques750 9 месяцев назад

      Curious why you would buy both the de Buyer and Matfer French pans? But I like the idea. Want the best omelette pan myself.

    • @ThomasWilliams-ee6li
      @ThomasWilliams-ee6li 9 месяцев назад

      @@charlesjacques750 I have purchased 3 sizes over time and, honestly didn't see a difference in the quality when buying them. So, I bought whichever was the best deal at the time. I'd say that I don't notice a difference in the brands and we've had them all for a few years now. Those pans and one cast iron pan do the most work in our kitchen. Now only if the saucepans were so easily replaced.

  • @dbkfrogkaty1
    @dbkfrogkaty1 Год назад +7

    It looks exactly like the BK Dutch Cookware carbon steel pan. Probably made in the same Chinese factory. I'm sure this OXO pan will cook food just fine. Just like the BK. The biggest plus for these pans vs the Matfer and de Buyer pans is weight. Their steel is much thinner so they lack the mass of the French brands. Depending on the size of the French pans their thickness varies from 2.5mm to 3mm thick. They will heat up a little more slowly.

    • @clarenceyee3529
      @clarenceyee3529 Год назад +1

      Is there a warping issue with BK pans due to the thinness?

    • @dbkfrogkaty1
      @dbkfrogkaty1 Год назад +2

      @@clarenceyee3529 If I was to guess I would say yes. Probably a pan not for real high temp cooking. Best for eggs, sautéing veggies, and the like.

    • @-Armand-
      @-Armand- Год назад +3

      It does indeed look identical to BK black steel pans, I also expect it to be from the same factory (I posted that comment too but it got removed?). I own BK black steel pans and can confirm them to be very non stick, but also to be very thin which makes them warp on induction (except for their wokarang which is a great pan)

    • @Panholistic
      @Panholistic Год назад +3

      I have a thin hand forged German Turk pan that warped quite fast on my flat top electic. After hammering it upwards it has remained its shape. I think these Oxo pans also have a stronger bow upwards to prevent easy warping.

    • @josemarquez21
      @josemarquez21 Год назад +3

      These do look very much as the BK black steel pan. I have an induction stove and I do run into warping issues. Instead of cooking at a 6 I cook at a 3-4. And when it warps i have to hammer the back to get it strait again .

  • @eminusipi
    @eminusipi Год назад +2

    I bought a Matfer carbon steel pan that had the old coatings. I scrubbed it off and oven seasoned it to cover the inside and out. It is the best pan for eggs.

  • @WanderingBobAK
    @WanderingBobAK Год назад +6

    I'm really surprised, Jed! As a new pan to you and new to the market pan, this looks like a contender. A great starter pan for for someone wanting to experiment with Carbon Steel.
    I did originally start with de Buyer Mineral B, then switched to there Pro model for the stainless handle (albeit heavier), then lucked into winning the lottery at Blu Skillet (hand crafted). So I now have 6 pans, 2 of each in the 8" and 10" range. Need to thin the herd, but if I ever wanted a larger or smaller carbon steel pan, I would definitely give the OXO a go.
    Thanks for continuing to work on cleaning up our dumps of nonstick garbage!

  • @paulasimson4939
    @paulasimson4939 Год назад +11

    With a thinner, lighter-weight pan, would it make sense to cook at a slightly lower temperature? I'd love a carbon steel pan that weighs a bit less, so it looks great to me.

    • @djC653
      @djC653 Год назад +1

      this is what I do with my BK Blk Steel skillet, about as thin as this one, just incase.

  • @DanGriffin10
    @DanGriffin10 Год назад +3

    Jed - I am new to carbon steel and have been enjoying your videos. I am about one month in with new OXO. My experience has been a bit different than yours. I think it is becasue the pan heats up so quickly and gets hotter than others at the same setting (we have a gas range). First time I used it my eggs stuck like crazy . It was before i learned about chain mail and when I cleaned it used a scrub pad that basically took a lot of the seasoning off. I reseasoned it again a couple of times before the next use. The next time I used it was to cook burgers which turned out great. But I neglected to clean the pan right after cooking and it sat overnight with the burger grease and pieces in it. It was stuck on so badly I had scrub once more which took off the reaseasoning. so I reseasoned a couple of times again. Next use with eggs was better than the first. Then I cooked some chicken tenders and that went much like the burger experience. Just over the couple of days I put the range on lower heat than I had been and so far so good - clean up with only warm water and paper towels. But I'd be lying if I didn't say I am bit leary about cooking something else on higher heat (searing scallops or burgers again, for example) and how it will turn out for the pan. Note - I saw that you don;t recommend using avocado oil due it's fiber content. Guess what I have been using? Yep, avocado oil. I am going to ppick up some grapeseed oil and start using that. Would you recommend I strip the pan and then season with the grapeseed oil or can use the grapeseed oil when post-use seasoning? Thank you.

    • @DanGriffin10
      @DanGriffin10 Год назад

      I;ve also noticed that the OXO does not heat up evenly as you did.

    • @Cook-Culture
      @Cook-Culture  Год назад +2

      It should be fine to keep using. It sounds like you just need to learn how to match the pan to your stove. You're doing all the right things!!

  • @markjohnson4053
    @markjohnson4053 Год назад +2

    If the pan had been coated with a layer of wax from the factory, I would probably heat it to see if there is any cook-off of the residual wax first. A regular wash probably won't remove all of it.

    • @Cook-Culture
      @Cook-Culture  Год назад +3

      The OXO pan is heat treated. No coating from the factory

  • @knifesharpeningnorway
    @knifesharpeningnorway Год назад +15

    I think even ikea has a carbon steel pan. This actually looks nice. Would like to know what its seasoned with from the factory though.

    • @Obsidian369
      @Obsidian369 5 месяцев назад

      All china garbage and so many alphabet letter names all made in the same place oxo is made! Its junk

  • @swicheroo1
    @swicheroo1 9 месяцев назад

    You convinced me to buy this for my mother-in-law in Korea. We are visiting her and a carbon steel pan was her request. I was going to season up a de Buyer pan. But the one I got in the mail is just too heavy for a senior citizen. So, the fact that you mention that it is lighter is a plus. Also, this seems like it will have less of a learning curve for a total newbie!

  • @kelpcowboy
    @kelpcowboy Год назад +18

    There is a reason that Matfer is the gold standard in a lot of great kitchens. It is significantly lighter than cast iron yet heavy enough to distribute heat evenly, unlike the OXO. Try using an infrared thermometer to scan both pans as they heat up and you will see a marked difference in the even distribution of heat as the come up to temp. As you use your Matfer more, it will acquire a complete coating of nonstick polymer and give you even greater nonstick qualities.

    • @Cook-Culture
      @Cook-Culture  Год назад

      Maybe. Time will tell.

    • @EarlHayward
      @EarlHayward Год назад

      I have a carbon steel wok and pans I purchased when I lived in Hong Kong, all Chinese made… They still work great… For instance, I have a 10” heavy duty (better heat retention, great for steaks, etc.) and a 10” blue carbon steel that is thinner/lighter with higher sides (perfect for veggies or tossing pasta) … All were a fraction of the cost of Matfer and work just as well… The only advantage Matfer has is a welded handle (I had to grind off the rivets and weld the handle to get a smooth side wall)… Frankly, many brands are just over priced with no significant quality differences if the same gauge/thickness!

    • @Cook-Culture
      @Cook-Culture  Год назад +3

      @EarlHayward fair enough, but most people that I deal with would rather have a pan made anywhere but China, and are willing to pay more for made in the USA or Europe.

  • @eda7875
    @eda7875 Год назад +1

    I made french omelet with my oxo by using high heat and lifting and moving the pan to control the heat as I move the eggs around and it turned out perfect.
    I have an entire set of old Wagner cast iron and they are superb. I bought the OXO carbon steel pans (10in and 8in) removable handle version for my teardrop trailer and have been using it in the kitchen so the nonstick builds up. I can say in terms of non-stick it is already as good as my Wagners. There definitely are hot spots/cold spots... Ive been considering buying a Matfer but with an inherited wagner set and a few all clad pans I think I can't justify the wagner lol. Plus in reality the OXO works perfectly fine on my gas cooktop.

  • @dalefriedrich735
    @dalefriedrich735 Год назад +3

    I bought the 8 inch OXO carbon steel pan 2 years ago. I make omletes daily. I did reseason pan and completely happy with it. Bought mine on Amazon.

  • @rockys7726
    @rockys7726 Год назад +4

    If you leave the pan on an induction burner on high it will leave a big burn ring permanently. Don't ask me how i know that. The pan is really thin so it's not the same as the other premium brands.

  • @philipstaite4775
    @philipstaite4775 Год назад +9

    It is exciting to see carbon steel becoming more mainstream. Obviously they “did their homework” and made sure people buying these entry-level pans have a good experience - light weight, good handle, good initial seasoning (ready to go out of the box). The slight differences are entirely understandable, it is a thinner, lighter weight pan. That helps hold costs down in materials, manufacturing, and shipping. Hopefully having these at a reasonable price point will bring more people over from the artificial non-stick camp into the carbon steel camp. These could be “gateway pans” ;-)…

    • @Cook-Culture
      @Cook-Culture  Год назад +2

      Hope so!

    • @ajumbo7762
      @ajumbo7762 Год назад +1

      If the OXO is lighter than the Matfer, then that's their angle right there. I just bought m first Matfer and may grab one of these for.... reasons.

    • @hilsenbeck2
      @hilsenbeck2 Год назад +3

      The edges are rolled steel and about 1.5mm thick. The base is 3mm thick. They've simply engineered away the weight on the edges, which I don't think most makers do. This makes them much lighter but perform the same.

    • @Visitkarte
      @Visitkarte Год назад

      @@hilsenbeck2are you talking about OXO? 3 mm bottom, thin sides? That sounds a-ma-zing!

    • @hilsenbeck2
      @hilsenbeck2 Год назад +1

      @@Visitkarteyes, both Oxo and Merton use this technique AFAIK.

  • @angusvanhalen2886
    @angusvanhalen2886 Год назад +2

    Great video! I have a 10” Merten & Storck carbon steel skillet, made in China for a German company, and absolutely love it. It came preseasoned, has held up great so far, & no warping on electric flat top.

    • @RayCharound
      @RayCharound Год назад

      I have that M&S skillet. It is unlike anything I've used before. I don't understand how that is just a preseasoned carbon steel skillet, since it is by far the most nonstick steel surface I've used. There's gotta be more than just carbon steel, right?

    • @Assimilator702
      @Assimilator702 Год назад +2

      @@RayCharoundWith a regular carbon steel pan you develop a seasoning layer and of course every time you cook food use fat to provide that non stick barrier. A pre seasoned pan has no steel exposed so the question is.....what is the seasoning layer made of? Is there some Teflon in the seasoning layer making it no different than a non stick pan?

    • @maxcontax
      @maxcontax Год назад

      Same here. I have the 12” M&S, it works. I did re-season it properly to get rid of that weird coating it came with.

    • @0zel0
      @0zel0 Год назад

      Googling it, seems the OXO and M&S coating is a nitride treatment. Used in firearms and industrial tools and components.

  • @greatpix
    @greatpix Год назад +1

    My first question about a pan is 'How flat is the bottom?'. A lot of pans/skillets have raised centers which means oils and other liquids run off to the sides. Not great if you're trying to fry something and have to use a more oil to cover the pan bottom.
    My second question is how resistant is it to becoming deformed if dropped a small distance onto a hard surface. An out of round pan means the lid won't sit tight, if the lid can even fit on the pan again. The test also applies to lids.

  • @geoffreydowen5793
    @geoffreydowen5793 10 месяцев назад

    in the UK the pans are"Salter " pan for life, they are tough as old boots oven and Weber kettle proof, my wife keeps putting them in the dishwasher! and I keep trying to season them 😭 they are wonderful 👍 we have halogen hobs which I don't like, never seem to get them hot enough but cheap enough to practice and they can be abused so I can recommend them . great post

  • @neilmac4730
    @neilmac4730 Год назад +1

    Funny, i was watching and just noticed the name of you're channel.
    I just bought a 9.5 inch DuBuyer from you, it arrived today!
    Cheers!

  • @markir9
    @markir9 Год назад +3

    Great review! I have 2 de Buyer Mineral B pans and they are awesome. However - they need some work to get them there, which fine for me (I like seasoning and seeing how they improve every time you cook with them). However the OXO pan is good to go straight out of the box. That is pretty cool for folk wanting to get into carbon steel but do *not* want to mess about with seasoning!

  • @Iconoclast1919
    @Iconoclast1919 Год назад +5

    The thing is, onion can be used to make even stainless steel at lower temperatures (which notoriously sticks) into a non-stick surface for a time, so cooking the onion first interferes with seeing how good the seasoning and non-stick capabilities are immediately after purchasing.

    • @stylis666
      @stylis666 Год назад

      That's interesting and handy! :D

  • @Marlonbc90
    @Marlonbc90 Год назад +1

    I often hear that thickness is crucial for a good quality pan. I understand that it helps retain heat and spread it more evenly, but I have a few stainless steel pans and pots with a very thick 1cm bottom and I don't like them all that much.
    It takes a lot of energy to heat them up and I wuold guess that the thickness makes them less responsive.
    I just moved into a new place, started using induction for the first time and I am still getting used to it and if you heat those pans too much you are going to burn stuff because they don't cool down

  • @jcnone
    @jcnone 2 месяца назад

    You might consider using a infrared thermometer for a test like this because there could be a measurable difference in temp.

  • @ahill209
    @ahill209 Год назад +4

    It's not surprising the Oxo did as well as it did in your tests. It's a much thinner and more lightweight pan, so when not loaded with a lot of stuff to cook, they will both perform pretty close. I think it would be easier to burn things in the Obsidian until you get used to the heat settings on your particular cooktop, despite your experience. Your hash browns did brown a lot more compared to the Mafter. Also, if you're putting in a fair amount of cold veggies to sautee or want to sear a steak that's not at room temp, the Mafter would be a better choice simply because it will hold more heat than the Oxo. Considering the price, I wonder what advantage the Obsidian is going to provide over a similarly priced non-stick pan. Durability, maybe?

    • @Cook-Culture
      @Cook-Culture  Год назад +2

      That's the entire point, durability.

    • @grepora
      @grepora Год назад +3

      The advantage is it's lighter than the Matfer and not Teflon (or some other gimmicky coating), so it lasts longer without the negative health effects -- as long as you don't cook acidic food in it.

  • @BarryMcConnell
    @BarryMcConnell 10 месяцев назад +2

    Two non-starter for me: raised rivets that will be a major pain to keep clean, and a handle I can't put in the oven. I'm staying with Matfer.

    • @emmaturner-kress9343
      @emmaturner-kress9343 10 месяцев назад +1

      The silicone handle cover is removable

    • @Cook-Culture
      @Cook-Culture  10 месяцев назад

      Not a bad choice!!

    • @BarryMcConnell
      @BarryMcConnell 10 месяцев назад

      @@emmaturner-kress9343 Better, but those raised rivets are still a deal breaker. I had the same problem with my All-Clad and they're ridiculously hard to get completely clean. Not again.

  • @jennifermcmillan9518
    @jennifermcmillan9518 Год назад +2

    Hey Jed. Our kitchen reno is finally done. I need to get with someone about purchasing pans for my new wolf induction. What’s the best way to start the discussion because I have some special circumstances and also don’t want to buy a set. I’m in the states but I’m buying through you because you have helped me so much.

    • @Cook-Culture
      @Cook-Culture  Год назад +2

      Thank you. You can contact me directly at jed@cookculture.com

  • @nandoacv2
    @nandoacv2 Год назад +4

    Great video. Wanted a Matfer but now seriously considering a OXO. Just because it seems more energy efficient. I would just like to see a video on searing a steak on the OXO vs the Matfer or Mineral B.

    • @TheGrandMug
      @TheGrandMug Год назад +9

      Thicker pans will always win if searing large cuts of meat is your goal. I can tell you even my Matfer can sometimes struggle if I'm making a big steak, especially on the second side once you flip. Id probably recommend finding a cheap Lodge cast iron pan for your major searing needs and doing just about everything else in the carbon steel. I have no doubt the OXO would struggle to sear even a small steak properly given how thin it is

    • @Assimilator702
      @Assimilator702 Год назад +4

      Get the Matfer. It’s no contest. Just from this short test you can see with the potatoes the Matfer is the superior pan.

    • @eda7875
      @eda7875 Год назад +2

      For searing steak go with cast iron.

    • @amoswhitwam2691
      @amoswhitwam2691 Год назад

      ​, I came to the opposite conclusion with that potato test, but I think it might be what we are expecting/desiring out of the cookware and the finished foods. With hashbrowns, I am always aiming for more browning rather than less, and doing so in less time is all the better... as long as you don't have too many other things going on at the same time.

  • @juanchapa2721
    @juanchapa2721 Год назад

    Thanks for the great video. I just bought the OXO crepe version of the blue carbon steel line. Plan to use it for quesadillas, tortillas, and grilled cheeses.

  • @scottfoster6607
    @scottfoster6607 Год назад +2

    I would love to get your take on some of the one piece carbon steel pans like Solidteknics and Darto.

  • @SpodTeK
    @SpodTeK Год назад +5

    Can you find out how it is preseasoned?

    • @Cook-Culture
      @Cook-Culture  Год назад +1

      Heat treated

    • @petesjk
      @petesjk 10 месяцев назад

      So this is a chemical treatment? I’m allergic to wheat, soy and corn, so any seasoning utilizing those ingredients won’t work for me. Unfortunately, this makes Lodge products not an option for me.

  • @DasGrinch
    @DasGrinch Год назад +1

    The biggest issue I'd have with the Oxo is the raised rivets. They're gonna get crusty and/or loosen over time. But the rest of it looks pretty nice.

    • @twatmunro
      @twatmunro Год назад +1

      I've got DeBuyer pans with raised rivets. They're fine. They don't get crusty or loosen.

    • @Cook-Culture
      @Cook-Culture  Год назад +6

      We sell a lot of riveted cookware and that doesn't happen.

    • @markir9
      @markir9 Год назад +1

      I have de Buyer and Scanpan pans (and pots) all with raised riveted attached handles. None of them have loosened. Not something to worry about.

    • @annaburns5382
      @annaburns5382 Год назад

      use a stiff bristle brush to clean around the rivets, or even an old toothbrush.

  • @pjwroblewski
    @pjwroblewski Год назад +3

    You didn't mention how temperature safe is the handle. I'm guessing that it is not broiler safe.

    • @Cook-Culture
      @Cook-Culture  Год назад +2

      You can remove the cover, so yes, broiler safe

  • @johnhoward7298
    @johnhoward7298 21 день назад +1

    My very limited experience with oxo
    ( a can opener ) is that they appear to be a very cost effective product .
    If these pans are as
    utilitarian as the can opener I have they'll stand up to Most home Cooks
    without many problems ( just My opinion )

  • @spodvoll
    @spodvoll Год назад +5

    I have two Matfers and a De Buyer. I prefer the Matfers.
    That said, I learned recently that Matfer changed their design and it's less robust, more prone to warpage problems.
    Anyway, De Buyer is not pronounced De Bye-Er. It's a French name. It's pronounced De Boo-yay.

    • @D4PPZ456
      @D4PPZ456 Год назад +5

      I believe Matfer added a slight curve at the bottom of their pans in a similar fashion to most other carbon steel makers because people were complaining that it was spinning at higher heat. I don't believe this makes the pan worse, as it was meant to make it less likely to warp.
      That being said, De Buyer made larger versions of their more flaired out omlette pan, so you also get the benefit of thicker steel in something closer to the Matfer design that people like.

  • @greatpix
    @greatpix Год назад +3

    I heard you should let a pan cool before putting it under water. (rapid temperature change)

  • @gabrieldomocos7570
    @gabrieldomocos7570 Год назад +1

    Being thinner is it more vulnerable to warping on induction?

    • @Cook-Culture
      @Cook-Culture  Год назад

      Could be. It seems to depend on the type of induction surface. I haven't had an issue on my cooktop but lots of people have different experiences.

  • @PDXTundra
    @PDXTundra 2 месяца назад +1

    Be aware that this pan is not pre-seasoned with vegetable oil; it does indeed have a manufactured artificial non-stick coating. OXO will not back the pan as it’s not made by them. Some on Amazon did some digging on the actual company that manufactures this, and they said it was a non-stick coating:
    “So I contacted OXO, who directed me to the manufacturer (they don't make their own cookware), The Cookware Company. From there I drilled down into Green Pan, one of their subsidiaries that makes the OXO pan, whose claim to fame is a "non-toxic ceramic non-stick coating". They claim it is non-toxic because it is made of a ceramic derivative of sand, and the manufacturing process doesn't use PFOA or PFAS chemicals.”
    So, in reality, it’s a non-stick coated carbon steel pan, and for that reason I’ll avoid it.

    • @stevenshepherd9661
      @stevenshepherd9661 Месяц назад

      Thank you! Since I got my 8" Merten and Storck I've been trying to figure out what's up with it. It acts like a non-stick pan. The website words things to seem like it's not coated, but if you look again the phrasing leaves open the possibility that it's non-stick. I just emailed Green Pan yesterday with some questions. Hopefully they get back to me in the coming week. I'm probably going to get a DeBuyer blued steel pan to replace the Merten. I'll still use the Merten but only as an ancillary pan.

  • @g4alwong
    @g4alwong 11 месяцев назад

    Something that I’d like to see is how this pan works for searing steaks. Wondering if the thinner material won’t hold heat as well and result in less consistent searing for steaks and other meats when you need consistent heat

  • @leslie-annepepin8927
    @leslie-annepepin8927 Год назад +2

    I think the silicone handle would prevent you from using it in a hot oven.

    • @Cook-Culture
      @Cook-Culture  Год назад +3

      It will take quite a bit of heat but you can remove it

    • @TamarLitvot
      @TamarLitvot Год назад +2

      @@Cook-Culture that’s important information. I had assumed it was permanent. If it’s removable, that makes the Oxo pan more versatile.

  • @johndoh5182
    @johndoh5182 5 месяцев назад

    Yes, there is a good reason the pan won't last forever because it happens even to carbon steel pans, warping. It would probably be really hard to warp cast iron but you can warp carbon steel.

  • @karenr67
    @karenr67 Год назад +1

    I've been looking for 10" fry pan to replace nonstick. That's wore out. I was thinking stainless 3ply but now I might consider this one instead

    • @dbkfrogkaty1
      @dbkfrogkaty1 Год назад +1

      Try a Matfer or a de Buyer carbon steel pan. Get one from these two manufacturers and you never need to replace it.

    • @Panholistic
      @Panholistic Год назад +1

      My Matfer warped instantly on my flat top electric, better to heat slowly on induction or electric ceramic stove tops.

  • @linda1541
    @linda1541 Год назад +1

    Would you need a thicker pan is using an electric stovetop?

  • @EconAdviser
    @EconAdviser Год назад

    Can't put in OXO oven (unless remove the silicone), has rivets sticking out on the inside, warping always a fear if don't gradually change heat up or put in cold water. French handles really steeps

  • @blaqfish
    @blaqfish Год назад +1

    When do you have to season it and place it in the oven? If it's not necessary will it say so on instructions? Thank you

    • @stevenshepherd9661
      @stevenshepherd9661 10 месяцев назад

      You don't have to season it at all. If the seasoning it comes with comes off, through cooking acids or whatever, you can scrub it down with a scrubby pad and do a quick stove-top reseasoning.

  • @wngimageanddesign9546
    @wngimageanddesign9546 10 месяцев назад +1

    I've not had luck with OXO products. So, if it's $50, forget, that's too much for an OXO pan of that thin gauge. I can invest $20 more for a deBuyer.

  • @rocinblues
    @rocinblues Год назад

    Nice looking pan, and good video. Note, cooking onions greatly improves the non-stick ability of any pan.

  • @douglaspierce8480
    @douglaspierce8480 Год назад

    The problem with induction is the size of the element. It doesn't fit the pan size and until manufactures up the element size you'll always have hot/cold spot issues, as well as warping.

    • @Cook-Culture
      @Cook-Culture  Год назад +1

      Not the case with all cooktops. I use Jenn-air and have zero issues

    • @douglaspierce8480
      @douglaspierce8480 Год назад +1

      @@Cook-Culture Jenn Air seems to have solved the problem.

  • @PastaMakerCordy-qy4uz
    @PastaMakerCordy-qy4uz Год назад +1

    I love my Matfer and will be getting the deBuyer.

  • @arFredBuild
    @arFredBuild Год назад

    Nice video. I wish you had given the Made In pan this same test.

  • @112wade
    @112wade Год назад +4

    Well, and this is entirely non food related, the OXO is just too damn pretty. I want my carbon steel to show proud signs of it's use ( kind of like me, a 72 year old with some use and abuse.)

    • @Cook-Culture
      @Cook-Culture  Год назад +2

      Haha! It's just a baby! Give it some time.

  • @Visitkarte
    @Visitkarte Год назад

    How many millimeters is the thickness of the OXO pan? I was told the bottom is 3 mm but the walls are much thinner, which saves weight. How high are the sides?
    And could you please review the Ikea model, VARDAGEN frying pan, carbon steel?

  • @RyszardRudy
    @RyszardRudy Год назад

    Interesting, as I was looking prices of Black Steel from BK Cookware and Amazon suggested me these ones. Was very tempting, since they include this silicone handle, unlike BK's, but BK's Black Steel pans have nice cast iron handles, although I don't know if it's good idea, but looks awesome.

  • @callicordova4066
    @callicordova4066 11 дней назад

    If the seasoning goes bad, could you re-season it? I ask because of the silicon handle.

  • @JoEpunkt
    @JoEpunkt Год назад +3

    We are talking about a 3mm and a 2mm pan I would suppose. I myself have both of those pans (Debuyer Carbonne 3mm and an unknown brand, Kela Ferrum in 2mm - I call it my „tin pan“ bc of the clear sound of it. What confuses me are two things: 1. the coating/ seasoning seems awesome. Are you sure it is not coated with PTFE or sth like that? It even looks like „plastic coating“! 2. your Oxo pan did not warp at all! My 2mm pan warps a little on my induction stove top, even on a 6/10, especially if I make crepes for the whole family. Maybe you should check that again in a long-term test (make crepes for your family and afterwards put some water into the 2mm pan, it will rinse to the sides only I bet!!). Otherwise, „tin pans“ are super lightweight and handy. I really like this Oxo Pan! Thanks for this test!

    • @stancooper5436
      @stancooper5436 Год назад +1

      The OXO does seem a little too good to be true, I must admit.

  • @geniuspharmacist
    @geniuspharmacist Год назад +1

    Did the chickpeas come in a can, home cooked, or just soaked?

  • @robertpollak6572
    @robertpollak6572 Год назад +2

    Good, but would like to see if the oxo cooks the same as the Matfer with lower heat.

  • @kohort1
    @kohort1 Год назад

    Any findings on oxo's seasoning? I used the camping version over a propane stove and accidentally burnt off a bit of the seasoning from the get go. But still fussing with the reseasoning. But i just watched the video re not bringing to smoke point.

  • @Back2SquareOne
    @Back2SquareOne 6 месяцев назад

    I would have liked to have seen a comparison using a steak or hamburger patty. My carbon steel is my goto pan for searing meat.

    • @Cook-Culture
      @Cook-Culture  5 месяцев назад

      Follow @unclescottskitchen for meat dishes

  • @hernancoronel
    @hernancoronel Год назад +1

    I am not from the US or Canada, I recall hash browns in US restaurants looked much different from what you made. Is that the Canadian version of hash browns? Thanks!

    • @notthesnail
      @notthesnail Год назад +1

      I'm from Canada and would call those fried potatoes, but wouldn't blink if they were referred to as hash browns. Hash brown is a more "breakfasty" term and not exclusive to the pressed potato patties that most fast food restaurants serve (deep fried).

    • @nlokteff
      @nlokteff Год назад

      Yeah, what he did here are often referred to as "skillet potatoes". Hash browns are shredded potatoes that are more like a patty, crisp on top and bottom, a bit less cooked inside.

  • @M21467
    @M21467 Год назад

    What do you think about the Oxo carbon steel wok? I'm curious about the shape. It seems to have a wider bottom than most traditional carbon steel woks.

    • @Cook-Culture
      @Cook-Culture  Год назад

      I haven't gotten my hands on it yet!

  • @shortschannel6576
    @shortschannel6576 Год назад

    Great video, great comparison, pretty stunned by the oxo for the price.
    Have you tried out their oxo carbon steel woks yet? Cause im thinking about getting one, thanks.

    • @Cook-Culture
      @Cook-Culture  Год назад

      Not yet! But I would assume they will perform well.

  • @hepgeoff
    @hepgeoff Год назад +2

    Great demo, Jed! Pretty impressive on the OXO. I'd be curious to see if it warps over time on an electric or induction stovetop.

    • @Cook-Culture
      @Cook-Culture  Год назад +6

      Thanks, Geoff. The base is quite solid but I will put it through the wringer and find out!

    • @gizzyguzzi
      @gizzyguzzi Год назад +1

      it is very thin. like 1.2 mm

    • @hepgeoff
      @hepgeoff Год назад

      @@gizzyguzzi Good to know, thanks.

  • @liamball8335
    @liamball8335 4 дня назад

    I made hash browns with my homemade ghee and it was the most heavenly food I’ve ever eaten. (Using my matfer) - golden honey butter crust. Omg

  • @TuRBiNeSaNdK9s
    @TuRBiNeSaNdK9s Год назад

    I think this is a clone of my BK pan. It looks exactly the same and I have to say my BK is also made in China. I can also report that my BK even though it's made in China is awesome. I love the weight the depth the ease of seasoning and how non stick it became with little effort. I can also say that I see my BK pan lasting me a long long time. So I would def recommend going that route if you don't want to buy a pan that's so new to the market. It's an excellent first carbon Steele pan. I call mine carbon steel on training wheel because of how easy it is to season and take care of.

  • @joesanders6898
    @joesanders6898 Год назад

    I would like to have seen you sear a steak, and I'm curious if you can use the OXO in the oven.

    • @Cook-Culture
      @Cook-Culture  Год назад +1

      I don't cook meat. Yes, the pan can go in the oven.

  • @hambonelouis
    @hambonelouis Год назад +4

    The OXO handle slides off. Needs to be said for all those who don’t watch the entire video.

    • @Cook-Culture
      @Cook-Culture  Год назад +4

      What? People aren't watching the entire video?

    • @Visitkarte
      @Visitkarte Год назад +1

      @@Cook-Culture😂

  • @MK-zi7ym
    @MK-zi7ym 11 месяцев назад

    Thank you!

  • @M_Ladd
    @M_Ladd Год назад

    Great job! Thank you very much! There has to be something in that Oxo seasoning from China!
    Let us know when you figure out what it is? Somebody is making a lot of money selling Chineese for almost US prices.

  • @ejw726
    @ejw726 Год назад

    You recently did a years test with the Marquette 10.5 cast iron. Is it possible for you to do a months test or 2-3 months of the OXO?

    • @Cook-Culture
      @Cook-Culture  Год назад

      Thanks, yes, I may do an update in the future.

  • @ansonmanagementcorp7874
    @ansonmanagementcorp7874 Год назад

    You use a chain cloth for cleaning? Never soap?

    • @Cook-Culture
      @Cook-Culture  Год назад

      Yeah, sometimes, but always chain mail

  • @mansoural7050
    @mansoural7050 Год назад

    But the question here is what’s kind of coating on the oxo? I see this kind of pan everywhere but is this coating (seasoning) safe to use??

    • @Cook-Culture
      @Cook-Culture  Год назад

      It's heat treated.

    • @mansoural7050
      @mansoural7050 Год назад

      @@Cook-Culture I got myself one of those, and I did as the instruction suggested but even after I checked with it I still get black powder or seems like paint or something! Is that normal? Any idea how can I fix them? Bty I really appreciate you channel very informative!
      Thanks

    • @Cook-Culture
      @Cook-Culture  Год назад

      @mansoural7050 Hi, soundsl like carbon flaking. Cook with lower heat.

    • @mansoural7050
      @mansoural7050 Год назад

      @@Cook-Culture I’ll try. Thank you

  • @GamerNxUSN
    @GamerNxUSN 11 месяцев назад

    Is it confirmed that this is legitimate non toxic pre seasoning? When I examined one at the store, it felt more like a coating than a seasoning

    • @Cook-Culture
      @Cook-Culture  11 месяцев назад

      It's a heat treatment, so the pan is not coated. That is what OXO claims, and I've now used the pans dozens of times and can confirm that it works as any carbon steel pan. It's good to be skeptical, though!!

    • @stevenshepherd9661
      @stevenshepherd9661 Месяц назад

      @@Cook-Culture just to add to this, I just got done with a conversation with a Green Pan consumer services rep. I had questions about my Merten and Storck CS pan. I believe the oxo and Merten and Storck are the same pans. Anyway, she said the seasoning is only from the heat treatment. There was no non-stick coating put on before or after the heat treatment. No extra chemicals or ceramic or anything. "...they aren't coated with anything. Carbon steel is carbon steel" is how she put it.

  • @jooky5
    @jooky5 11 месяцев назад

    Have you tried searing a steak with the oxo?

  • @justinerogers1353
    @justinerogers1353 Год назад

    Even the toxic non-stick pans work really well to start with. The silicone handle is a phaff if you want to put it in the oven. Uncle Scott seasons his de Buyer just once yet you are talking about having to season again.

    • @Cook-Culture
      @Cook-Culture  Год назад +1

      How many times you build a seasoning layer depends on your preferences and how you cook. There isn't one best way.

  • @Blueskies-h3e
    @Blueskies-h3e 14 дней назад

    Nutritional yeast ???

  • @djC653
    @djC653 Год назад +2

    Do you have access to the BK Blk Steel skillets? Pretty much the same pan but with a cast iron handle. I got it to wean my wife off of non stick.

  • @senior_ranger
    @senior_ranger Год назад +1

    He's "stoked."

  • @da900smoove1
    @da900smoove1 Год назад

    Question...... you record in a studio kitchen or a very nice well equipped home ???

  • @dhallett77
    @dhallett77 Год назад

    Have you ever tried a Darto carbon steel pan?

    • @Cook-Culture
      @Cook-Culture  Год назад +1

      Yes, I have one. I like it but have not got around to a video yet.

  • @mgreg8134
    @mgreg8134 Год назад

    I bought an oxo just for cooking eggs in and in about 2 yrs it was no longer non-stick. Around the same time I bought a carbon steel pan and seasoned it and it is still non stick. If the seasoning begins to break down in the steel pan I can always reseason it. Where as the OXO becomes just another piece of trash in my garbage bin.

    • @Cook-Culture
      @Cook-Culture  Год назад +4

      Yes, that is what is unique here. It looks as though OXO understands that.

  • @arashnikamal
    @arashnikamal Год назад +3

    forgive my ignorance but the oxo looks powder coated with some synthetic material, i/e. like a nonstick. are we sure we are comparing apples to apples?

  • @justinerogers1353
    @justinerogers1353 Год назад +1

    I would prefer to spend more (not much more) and get a French made company such as de Buyer, Matfer Bourgeat, Mauviel - I hate it when a premium product which artisan - often family-owned - centuries old companies are taken on by the mainstream which ultimately could put them out of business.

    • @Cook-Culture
      @Cook-Culture  Год назад +3

      Most people watching this channel probably would, but this is about making carbon steel pans mainstream. This will help to eliminate non-stick pans.

  • @glenniwasa9683
    @glenniwasa9683 Год назад +1

    Matt -Try it on an induction element to see if it warps on higher temp.

    • @robgover8341
      @robgover8341 Год назад +4

      That was on induction!

    • @glenniwasa9683
      @glenniwasa9683 Год назад

      @@robgover8341 I saw that but some carbon steel pans have warped on high heat particularily on induction tops.

  • @andreif.2412
    @andreif.2412 Год назад

    For everybody claiming the pan is thinner: this is wrong and misleading.
    While the sidewalls are extremely thin at around 1mm, the actual bottom is a full 3mm thick and comparable to any other high-quality pan. The side walls have those undulations on the exterior because they are hot-rolled thin, while other classical brands have just the whole shape pressed, hence why they are heavier.

    • @Cook-Culture
      @Cook-Culture  11 месяцев назад +2

      Good explanation. , thanks.

  • @CP-zb3ky
    @CP-zb3ky 4 месяца назад

    OXO wins hands down imo, cheaper, lighter, pre-seasoned with a larger cooking surface

  • @bryanmcgivney3778
    @bryanmcgivney3778 Год назад +2

    24 minutes in before you casually mention the handle is removable. 24 minutes I'm thinking to myself, this pan is looking better and better, to bad it's probably not oven safe, then boom the handle comes off, sheesh.

  • @Nope145
    @Nope145 Год назад

    Good review

  • @TheSuperi9
    @TheSuperi9 Год назад

    oxo is available in canada have 2

  • @richm9157
    @richm9157 Год назад +1

    Cool that OXO is selling a carbon steel, it may help get other options besides non-stick coatings on 'everyday' pans. Field #8 is my go-to, best pan I've ever used, gonna (non) stick with the Field.

  • @robgover8341
    @robgover8341 Год назад +7

    Oxo/Good Grips only puts out quality products. Being made in China does not make a product bad. Chinese manufactures make things to whatever standard the American company requests. Y’all type these anti Chinese made comments on phones that are the best made and most expensive phones on the planet 🤣.

  • @mmyersracing
    @mmyersracing Год назад +1

    Amazing!!

  • @michaelgonzalez8863
    @michaelgonzalez8863 7 месяцев назад

    Oven test ?

  • @happypuppy8221
    @happypuppy8221 Год назад +1

    Was it seasons with gutter oil?

    • @Visitkarte
      @Visitkarte Год назад

      😄 extra heat - no factory seasoning involved obviously.

  • @jeffnesbitt1168
    @jeffnesbitt1168 Год назад

    Do u sell the matfer pan?

  • @nikokurk
    @nikokurk Год назад

    Can't handle oven temperatures above 450F with that handle.

    • @Cook-Culture
      @Cook-Culture  Год назад +3

      The handle cover slides off quite easily

  • @bobejonesjr
    @bobejonesjr Год назад +2

    Good video at your new studio. I think that a longer test is advised before you start selling the OXO pan because on the Amazon reviews, several customers indicated that because of the light weight, it will warp over time. Also, I'm very interested in you nuking the pan and seasoning it with your 5 day seasoning process like I did with my De Buyer pan. I really question what they use to season the OXO pan.....maybe Teflon?

    • @clarenceyee3529
      @clarenceyee3529 Год назад +1

      Reminds me of the Matfer Bourgeat CS pans that warp on flattops. This was a known problem and now the 12" comes with a convex bottom.