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Please cover Riyadh metro, it's first metro in Saudi with six lines and costing 22.5 billion dollars. It will launch this month. Would love to see a video about it's delays, the project success or failure and the 7th line to Qiddiya that was announced.
The Little Andaman project is not a sustainable initiative compared to the second project located in Vizhinjam in Kerala. The Vizhinjam project is strategically positioned near an international trade route, making it a better choice for trade purposes. While the Little Andaman project raises significant environmental concerns, the Vizhinjam project does not face such issues. With the ongoing economic boom in India, the Vikas Bharat initiative appears more viable and economically promising. The Vizhinjam project, with its proximity to Thiruvananthapuram, promotes regional development and benefits nearby cities. This government-backed initiative strengthens the economy by facilitating mother ship connections, making it a key player in enhancing India's trade capabilities. Moreover, the Vizhinjam project is expected to transform the region into a shipping hub for India. The first phase of this project is set to be completed by 2024, with further developments planned to attract more investment into the region. Economically, it is a more viable and sustainable option compared to the time-consuming and resource-intensive Little Andaman project.
Great video, love that you're giving this project the attention it deserves, being the first automated metro system in the US. However at 5:12, there seems to be a slight error, as the 2nd segment is actually the only one opening in 2025, while the 3rd segment is planned for 2031 and the 4th segment still has a date yet to be decided.
I live in Vancouver, and this looks a lot like our Skytrain system. Elevated rail, light rail, commuter system automated trains, its got everything our skytrain system has.
Ayo a video on Hawaii ?! Let's goooo ! Personally this thing doesn't come anywhere remotely near where I live so it serves next to zero purpose for me . I still think it's for the best in the long run (the way the project went about could've been VASTLY more thought out and better executed) . Once the rails get expanded and more places get a station for access is when I'll consider using it .
Hainan in China. Exists. 600km ring high speed rail on a tropical island with same conditions. Ironically often called as "Hawaii of China". Same elevated design. Same huricanes, mountains and complicated soil. Not mentioning, that it's connected to the mainland rail system with ferry. Yes. Trains are entering the ferry, crossing the sea, and reentering the rail system.
The ferry trains are not that uncommon. That's how Sicily is connected to mainland Italy. There also is a train between Stockholm and Berlin, that takes the ferry across the Baltic sea. There even used to be a ferry train on the lake Constance between Austria, Germany and Switzerland. But that's in the past.
The key ingredients are China's weak property rights, small chances to fight the government and overall much cheaper construction costs. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if some corners may have been cut, since it's, sadly, still a common occurrence in China. Of course, the US is on the other end of the spectrum, together with the UK and Canada, for building extremely slow and extremely expensive, being basically a joke at this point. Any democratic country has better examples than China. There's France, Spain, Japan and Korea.
The key ingredients are China's weak property rights, small chances to fight the government and overall much cheaper construction costs. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if some corners may have been cut, since it's, sadly, still a common occurrence in China. Of course, the US is on the other end of the spectrum, together with the UK and Canada, for building extremely slow and extremely expensive, being basically a joke at this point. Any democratic country has better examples than China. There's France, Spain, Japan and Korea.
@@martinbruhn5274 i was about to mention Sicily. Done that crossing many many times, i am looking forward to the bridge though, cause it normally takes over an hour between disconnecting the cars, fitting them piece by piece in the ferry and then putting them back together on the other side, and if you're doing this trip in the summer, the whole time you have no electricity and so no AC. The bridge would cut all that down to a few minutes, especially on HSR.
@@martinbruhn5274 They are. Train system of Europe are good too indeed. I added it to highlight infrastructure of railway system of tropical island of China, of almost same Latitude and weather conditions, compared to Hawaii.
VERY much need to extend this to Nanakuli via the Ko Olina Resorts!! The H1 is a nightmare to the west here! Also need to go East to the University area!!
I worked on that rail, The general contractor was STG when I left, out of my 35 years of working in construction! STG was by far the worst company I’ve ever worked for!!! Poor planning poor communication lack of accountability!!!
The thing about building expensive public transit is that while it's easy to be horrified by the costs when it's being planned and built, once it exists nobody ever regrets building it. You quickly forget about the money, start using it all the time and become appreciative that it exists. You often find people opposed to future tram/train/subway lines, but you rarely hear people in cities that have those things say they wish they'd never been built.
11 billion is _quite_ alot to try and make a return on investment for, it wont be completed for another 10 years and the costs are likely to keep rising. It’s also not open 24/7 which limits some revenue. Hawaii is already one of the most expensive states and people are feeling the tax burdens
The cracks in the columns comes from what they did to them; they were designed and built properly but then after the fact they decided "Oh hey, let's take a few inches off to carve in a design along DBZ way." Which, as you could imagine caused structural problems.
I remember being very young and seeing places before the rail was built. I remember a lot of caution signs and stuff, and being scared that something happened because I didn't understand what was up. I basically grew up with it, I saw it getting longer and longer as I grew. I never rode it before, I always wondered what it'd be like, but the cracking and unstable roads always scared me off.
It's a good future proof project but it needs to run 24/7/365 and have Transit Oriented Developments built at each station site for it to really get use like Vancouver or Hong Kong...
Haha, at $366 million per kilometer, this railway better be made out of gold, diamonds, and a little bit of magic! ✨ I mean, at that price, the tracks should come with built-in Wi-Fi, air conditioning, and maybe even a personal butler for each passenger, right? 😅
We are a small island. Projects like this will cost 10x more than other places. Plus may be a lot of corruption and folks creating challenges for the project.
Welcome to 1980s technology. Vancouver has had a driverless LRT system since 1986 in the form of the SkyTrain. Probably the most successful LRT in all of North America
in many ways it reminds me of the mess that is Rome's Line C. Costs have ballooned astronomically, archaeological remains have stumped the project (leading to the loss of one station and the dramatic redesigning of several others), the construction was subdivided in segments (instead of doing the whole thing in one go) and they started with the least useful bit.
With a big project like this, people just need to give it time to get build out. It's still under construction, and luckily, they seem to be on track to finish the other segments in the near future. Once the downtown and airport segments are finished, it'll be very useful. This is great news and I'd love to visit when it's finished. Keep in mind, the great metro systems around the world were not built in a day. I saw their are proposals to expand to the University and Waikiki and other areas which would be great to see in the future. There's a valid argument that it costs too much when other countries could build for less. Ultimately, it comes down to bureaucracy and poor management which was mentioned in the video. Metro systems in America need to start streamlining design and engineering in-house. A lot of that cost is paying other people to come in a do the work for way more, taking up valuable resources and time. If we had design, engineering teams for these metro systems, the cost for these projects wouldn't be so astronomical, and we could see regular expansions to our metro systems rather than once a decade. That being said, it is difficult to compete against free (go figure). By that, I mean, highways are subsidized by an insane margin that it's no wonder cities opt for building them instead of public transportation. Long term as cities are finding out, they can't keep up with the infrastructure cost of these huge highways that take up valuable space away from urban development. It's not sustainable how we build our infrastructure in the US. It needs to change. Deregulate!
The issue with the rail is it just doesn't go to a lot of places where people actually want to go. If it can be expanded into the city, with off shoots to places like Salt Lake and UH it would really help with traffic
REM is probably better in many aspects because it went with standardized off the shelf technologies and parceled them together... No third rail, just overhead wires which are still the most reliable and affordable option especially in places like Canada where snow can interfere with signals and power supply. And of course modified but standardized Alstom train using standard gauge rails... I honestly hope Edmonton and Calgary launch these soon as part of the Alberta railway roadmap planned for Summer 2025 launch... In theory it lays out railway projects from 2025 until 2040 including Edmonton and Calgary regional express rail, a Calgary-Banff Regional Train, Edmonton-Calgary High Speed Rail and some other Regional lines... In theory anyway... ;-)
The Little Andaman project is not a sustainable initiative compared to the second project located in Vizhinjam in Kerala. The Vizhinjam project is strategically positioned near an international trade route, making it a better choice for trade purposes. While the Little Andaman project raises significant environmental concerns, the Vizhinjam project does not face such issues. With the ongoing economic boom in India, the Vikas Bharat initiative appears more viable and economically promising. The Vizhinjam project, with its proximity to Thiruvananthapuram, promotes regional development and benefits nearby cities. This government-backed initiative strengthens the economy by facilitating mother ship connections, making it a key player in enhancing India's trade capabilities. Moreover, the Vizhinjam project is expected to transform the region into a shipping hub for India. The first phase of this project is set to be completed by 2024, with further developments planned to attract more investment into the region. Economically, it is a more viable and sustainable option compared to the time-consuming and resource-intensive Little Andaman project.
5:13 only the second segment will open in 2025, the third will open 2031 and the fourth is not in the current budget so it is not known if it even will be built
In Hawaii-it’s why build it right the first time when you can keep work on building until you retire. Like H3 10 mile freeway 30 years. It took 6-7 years to add 2 lanes to a stretch of 3 miles of Kalanianaole highway. Big part of the problem is the corruption when every level except the Federal is corrupt in your state it’s hard for the people to benefit. People rather vote in a known corrupt democrat than a unknown candidate. The dept of transportation ideal to help traffic is reduce speed limits, remove lanes, add traffic lights where not needed, add speed humps where not needed, more no right turn on red lights. There biggest innovation is an ideal many decades old of having all corner walk and don’t walk signals at busy intersections. Which means they met quota of 1 thing to improve traffic for the decade.
Why not tax the billionaires who are buying all the land, and the tourists who's numbers are always increasing. But first let's start with Billionaires like The Meta CEO who is buying enough land to make his own private country, unacceptable meanwhile he is doing nothing for the community so take his money god sake
Original plans called for rail to go all the way to UH, but that was scrapped early on. It’s a shame. I voted for steel on steel, and I’m not sure if it was the correct choice.
Our local native Hawaiians call it the most corrupt project in Hawaii. It’s been a meme since its creation. The active times of the rail are stupid and not even 24hrs. The amount of money it costs yearly to upkeep it absolutely greatly outweighs the amount of riders. I have only ever seen a handful or less of riders at any given time. The city buses are packed to the gills way more than the rail.
I was stationed in Hawaii for the Navy from 2011 - 2016 and would have to say, they should change their motto to the traffic jam state, so yes I think this is something that is needed. However, the amount of time they are taking to finish this makes me sick, but doesn't surprise me either. I lived close enough to Kamehameha highway to be able to watch them work on this from my balcony and the sheer amount of just sitting around they did was disgusting. I could be over egadurating, but it seemed like they would work maybe 30 minutes in an 8 hour shift? I noticed the workers would sit around and chat for hours on end getting nothing done, now whether this was because of waiting on materials or because they were encouraged by their company to do so, so that they could make more money I couldn't say. Either way, the sheer slow pace that this thing is being built, at the over budgeting shows yet another example of a government project that is struggling.
you aren't exaggerating at all, its been years and they have hardly done anything past the airport but can at least say the section near aloha stadium/pearl is running so its "successful", despite being empty almost every day meanwhile it already has serious issues breaking down and people needing to walk all the way off already
The mistake was starting in the area least busy first. While more expensive initially, starting in the city then going west would already have a population center that could use the service more often than what it is now.
It isn't worth it. When it was proposed and one of the reasons the council voted against it was the rail in the 60's had no park and rides near the train stations. and there was no money allocated to expand the buses to feed the rail. The rail also was going to lose money for every mile they went further than Kalihi. It was not going to reduce traffic because most of the people who commute do not live along the rail route. So it would not serve the areas where traffic was coming from like the North Shore, Waianae, Central Oahu. the Kapolei station was built on empty land across the future site of West Oahu College site, which still has not been built. It was supposed to go to the U.H., now it will stop short at Ala Moana. In town, there are is good bus service with a bus coming every five minutes to somewhere. It is not like that in rural areas and bus routes don't serve enough of the suburb communities to make it practical to take the bus. Both the bus and the rail run during the day. People working overnight can get a ride. People working earlier than 6 a.m. or getting off after 10:30 p.m. had to have alternate transportation. This is still true to this day. The people who ride the rail are the same people who would otherwise ride the bus and where it is now, it ends at the stadium, in the middle of nowhere and they have to ride the bus to get into town. The next section that connects to a major bus hub may improve that but they have to expand their operating hours for the rural areas. Now most people have to leave at 4:30 a.m. to ger a parking space and get to work on time. The rail does not connect to Pearl Harbor, a major employer. Neither the bus nor the rail will start early enough for people who need to be at work at 5-6 a.m. coming from the rural areas that have poor bus service on a good day and no rail access. It is quiet, but it is an eyesore, and it has detrimentally affected business around the rail while it was being built and cut off access to some businesses altogether if they have to make a left turn or make U turn somewhere or go in a side street and turn around to get to the other side. Nothing in Hawaii built of steel will be rust free, go look at the stadium that needs to be torn down. The steel wheels and rails are going to rust. There is a lot of places with soft soil that is going to make drilling pylons especially around Ala Moana (which was a swamp and when it rains puddles appear in the lower level parking lots) More mysterious cracks are probably going to be found. Not only is the cost of the rail way more than when it was proposed. They don't have enough ridership to even pay for the annual maintenance. Everyone opposes higher taxes since we already have the regressive state tax that taxes everything. The city is paying a ridiculous amount of money to have the state collect the 1/2 percent tax which costs people more since they actually make more money than that because rounding up of those half pennies add up.
@@Wisdom808 For now. They are supposed to all be Transit Oriented Developments infilled at each stop much like Vancouver are they not? And limited hours don't help... Who though 7 PM was a good cut off time? Honestly...
our generation's grandchildren will benefit from this rail sure, but for now its going to be a pain in the ass for many more years before its even efficiently up and running enough to make any of that money back
Montreal canada is building a 67-km elevated rail line similar to this with phase one already complete and running. They started construction in 2018. The project is projected to cost 6.7 billion usd. Even compared to similar countries usa and hawaii remains borrible at creating public transit
8 freeway lanes only being able to move 40,000 people per day is just pathetic. The Shinjuku Station in Tokyo moves 3,000,000+ through it per day. Cars are just too expensive and space inefficient to make any sense as the only mode of transit unless you like being broke and in traffic all the time.
Remove 40,000 cars off the road? If you take 5000 cars off the road then H-1 becomes a viable option. My guess is that if the rail shaves off 30 minutes of a 90 minute commute then people will stay in their cars. The question is how many cars have to leave for H-1 and the rail to reach an equalibriam. 5000? 10000? It ain't 40000.
If Detroit had expanded their UTDC/Bombardier/Alstom central loop it would have been the first but you know... Either way automated, driverless rail transport is and always should be the future... Thankfully Vancouver and Montreal now have extensive automated metro systems built or under construction as well as Toronto's second automated line but only open one since the Scarborough RT was demolished for mostly political reasons...
i wonder if they considered covering the viaducts with solar panels to offset carbon emissions from electricity generation :shrug: not that there would have been any budget for it, but it may have helped community perception of the invasive concrete snake winding its way across the island,
A pretty good summary of the HART system but you left out the fact the system was to serve the University of Hawaii, Manoa but it was short-stopped at Ala Moana . UHM is the number one commuter destination , not downtown. Also you left out the fact that SIDA (State Independent Taxi Association) tied up the project in lawsuits to prevent the rail from serving the airport. And thereby cutting into their lucrative. Waikiki to HNL business. I was there when convicted felon and city counsel woman, Rene Mansho cast the killer vote to prevent funding the project 30 years ago. The vote was to impose a ½ of 1% tax increase for 10 years to fund the project . No doubt the project would have been already completed by now at considerable savings if not for her. The project does not terminate at Kapolei but in a deserted sugar cane field. What were they thinking? I suspect lack of service to Waikiki has something to do with those pesky taxi drivers.
Using steel in concrete construction is the normal procedure, making sure the steel inside the concrete doesn't rust is a problem, ask the folks in Miami where that apartment building fell down or the folks over in Italy who had a big bridge failure. Cracking is the first sign of problems. Reagan is often blamed for cutting money from the budget but the real cost cutter was Carter, he looked at the spending on the DC metro and nearly tore his hair out. Yea, that was out of control. These cost numbers are pretty wicked but this is Hawaii, remember that EVERYTHING had to be brought in from the mainland and getting coordination between both sides becomes awfully expensive. There are no railway experts on Hawaii, at one time they had some but that was in the past. Having government agencies build something makes it cost more, often a lot more. Too often government bureaucrats are put in charge of something that they known little or nothing about, this usually doesn't work out well. Way back when, the private companies that built the bulk of the existing NYC transit system did so rather quickly and it's been in service for over 100 years now so I guess it was pretty good, it's taken over 40 years to build the very limited Second Ave. subway in Manhattan promised to residents in the 1950s being built by a government agency.
It depends on the expertice, capacities, and liberties given to the transit agency. There's a reason that Europe (with extensive govermental control over public transit), and even Latin America are able to construct and provide extensive transit: giving more power over to the transit agency
Absolutely not. For 1% of the cost of this, you could have developed a massive cycling network that would have taken far more people out of cars, especially in the ideal weather O'ahu has.
I am a local teen still living in Hawaii, Oahu and I have a great view of Skyline. But I will say this is a waste of money though I don't understand much about transportation on the ground I do know they could have done better with that $11B to strengthen our tourism or our economy.
So cause this railway is 29.8 kilometers long, and its cost is $11B, this railway costs an absurd 370 million dollars per kilometer. Unreal. Keep in mind, the average high speed rail project costs only 20-100 million per kilometer (and this rail isn't even high speed...). 🙉
Let me see if I understand . 11 billion and it does not go the Waikiki where most of the hotels and restaurants are and tens of thousands of service workers need to travel to ? Just walk from the mall ?
being hawai under american control, i did not expect a different outcome. As always this is a political project, and not a real project to serve the people. only political interest.
@ The high speed rail I voted for 20 years ago at 8 billion still Not done and when it partially opens it will not serve what it was designed for Modesto to Stockton or some other cities just as nuts ! At lest it is hundreds of miles not 15 for 11 billion . Adjusted for inflation the Hawaii project Costs more than the transcontinental Railroad to build .
I am just surprised that to Americans the whole process seems state of the art and challenging, meanwhile, CHina and India are building these systems like its Wednesday
It was not always like this. In the early 20th century the US had the best public transportation in the entire world. However, through car-centric policies they reversed most of their progress, and are currently trying to gain it back
BRO! VANCOUVER HAS SKYTRAIN BUT HAWAII WANTS TO COPY CANADA!!!!!! CANADA EVEN HAS LONGER BUSES TRAVEL AND SEABUS THAT IS A BOAT AND SKYTRAIN AND WEST CAOST EXPRESS BTW i live in Vancouver
As always with countrys/islands under american rule. The amount of bureacracy, corruption incompetence, and the project being a political project, rather then to be a real public transit project, meant to serve the public. This project seems to be meant for political gain rather then to serve the public as public transit is meant to be. For these reasons, it will have low ridership, will be way above the budget, and wont be finished anytime soon.
I am in Hawaii. The Rail is worthless. No one uses it and it was always a development project and never about easing congestion or improving transportation. Hawaii is the most corrupt state in the USA. People need to be in jail for this scam.
Hawaii's $11 billion Skyline railway project, in development for over 50 years, aims to reduce traffic congestion on Oahu. The 30km elevated, driverless system faces numerous challenges, including cost overruns, delays, and structural issues, but supporters argue its long-term benefits outweigh the costs.
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Please cover Riyadh metro, it's first metro in Saudi with six lines and costing 22.5 billion dollars. It will launch this month. Would love to see a video about it's delays, the project success or failure and the 7th line to Qiddiya that was announced.
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8:42 - What up with that? First verse in a rap song?
The Little Andaman project is not a sustainable initiative compared to the second project located in Vizhinjam in Kerala. The Vizhinjam project is strategically positioned near an international trade route, making it a better choice for trade purposes. While the Little Andaman project raises significant environmental concerns, the Vizhinjam project does not face such issues.
With the ongoing economic boom in India, the Vikas Bharat initiative appears more viable and economically promising. The Vizhinjam project, with its proximity to Thiruvananthapuram, promotes regional development and benefits nearby cities. This government-backed initiative strengthens the economy by facilitating mother ship connections, making it a key player in enhancing India's trade capabilities.
Moreover, the Vizhinjam project is expected to transform the region into a shipping hub for India. The first phase of this project is set to be completed by 2024, with further developments planned to attract more investment into the region. Economically, it is a more viable and sustainable option compared to the time-consuming and resource-intensive Little Andaman project.
If the gov spent 50 years to talk, plan, and budget, just tunnel bore it and get it done by the time finish talking.
Great video, love that you're giving this project the attention it deserves, being the first automated metro system in the US. However at 5:12, there seems to be a slight error, as the 2nd segment is actually the only one opening in 2025, while the 3rd segment is planned for 2031 and the 4th segment still has a date yet to be decided.
Good call choosing an elevated rail transit. Cities with at grade rail systems experience more delays for many reasons.
Also the floodiing
I live in Vancouver, and this looks a lot like our Skytrain system. Elevated rail, light rail, commuter system automated trains, its got everything our skytrain system has.
which is better Seattle or Vancouver?
@@pranshukrishna5105obv Vancouver cause we have great rapid busses the sea bus amazing regional busses, 3 trains and excellent times
And we got the SkyTrain back in 1986 😅
Ayo a video on Hawaii ?! Let's goooo !
Personally this thing doesn't come anywhere remotely near where I live so it serves next to zero purpose for me .
I still think it's for the best in the long run (the way the project went about could've been VASTLY more thought out and better executed) . Once the rails get expanded and more places get a station for access is when I'll consider using it .
The fact it will have any effect on decreasing traffic is enough to be a benefit to you
Hainan in China. Exists. 600km ring high speed rail on a tropical island with same conditions. Ironically often called as "Hawaii of China". Same elevated design. Same huricanes, mountains and complicated soil. Not mentioning, that it's connected to the mainland rail system with ferry. Yes. Trains are entering the ferry, crossing the sea, and reentering the rail system.
The ferry trains are not that uncommon. That's how Sicily is connected to mainland Italy. There also is a train between Stockholm and Berlin, that takes the ferry across the Baltic sea. There even used to be a ferry train on the lake Constance between Austria, Germany and Switzerland. But that's in the past.
The key ingredients are China's weak property rights, small chances to fight the government and overall much cheaper construction costs. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if some corners may have been cut, since it's, sadly, still a common occurrence in China.
Of course, the US is on the other end of the spectrum, together with the UK and Canada, for building extremely slow and extremely expensive, being basically a joke at this point.
Any democratic country has better examples than China. There's France, Spain, Japan and Korea.
The key ingredients are China's weak property rights, small chances to fight the government and overall much cheaper construction costs. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if some corners may have been cut, since it's, sadly, still a common occurrence in China.
Of course, the US is on the other end of the spectrum, together with the UK and Canada, for building extremely slow and extremely expensive, being basically a joke at this point.
Any democratic country has better examples than China. There's France, Spain, Japan and Korea.
@@martinbruhn5274 i was about to mention Sicily. Done that crossing many many times, i am looking forward to the bridge though, cause it normally takes over an hour between disconnecting the cars, fitting them piece by piece in the ferry and then putting them back together on the other side, and if you're doing this trip in the summer, the whole time you have no electricity and so no AC. The bridge would cut all that down to a few minutes, especially on HSR.
@@martinbruhn5274 They are. Train system of Europe are good too indeed. I added it to highlight infrastructure of railway system of tropical island of China, of almost same Latitude and weather conditions, compared to Hawaii.
VERY much need to extend this to Nanakuli via the Ko Olina Resorts!! The H1 is a nightmare to the west here! Also need to go East to the University area!!
Excellent video! I've lived on Oahu twice in my life, and yes, it's getting increasingly *congested* , and a rail system has always been needed.
I worked on that rail, The general contractor was STG when I left, out of my 35 years of working in construction! STG was by far the worst company I’ve ever worked for!!! Poor planning poor communication lack of accountability!!!
The thing about building expensive public transit is that while it's easy to be horrified by the costs when it's being planned and built, once it exists nobody ever regrets building it. You quickly forget about the money, start using it all the time and become appreciative that it exists. You often find people opposed to future tram/train/subway lines, but you rarely hear people in cities that have those things say they wish they'd never been built.
11 billion is _quite_ alot to try and make a return on investment for, it wont be completed for another 10 years and the costs are likely to keep rising. It’s also not open 24/7 which limits some revenue. Hawaii is already one of the most expensive states and people are feeling the tax burdens
Building on lava... very expensive
The cracks in the columns comes from what they did to them; they were designed and built properly but then after the fact they decided "Oh hey, let's take a few inches off to carve in a design along DBZ way." Which, as you could imagine caused structural problems.
This "hi tech" solution has been running in Copenhagen since 2004
Same in London. For decades 😂
Vancouver as well since 1985
Yup. Hi tech for America... Which is like 80's pop being current in Russia now... ;-)
It's Great That Hawaii Have A Train Service so Traffic Can Ease Congestion on Freeways Amazing Videos
Ahahahahahahaha!!!
sure but this train wont even get you to downtown, also 3/4's of the island cant even access it without driving far
I remember being very young and seeing places before the rail was built. I remember a lot of caution signs and stuff, and being scared that something happened because I didn't understand what was up. I basically grew up with it, I saw it getting longer and longer as I grew. I never rode it before, I always wondered what it'd be like, but the cracking and unstable roads always scared me off.
It's a good future proof project but it needs to run 24/7/365 and have Transit Oriented Developments built at each station site for it to really get use like Vancouver or Hong Kong...
$366,000,000 per kilometer of built rail.
Absolute insanity.
What's it made from? Gold and diamonds?
Corruption🗿🍷
Haha, at $366 million per kilometer, this railway better be made out of gold, diamonds, and a little bit of magic! ✨ I mean, at that price, the tracks should come with built-in Wi-Fi, air conditioning, and maybe even a personal butler for each passenger, right? 😅
buddy has no idea where hawaii is on the map
We are a small island. Projects like this will cost 10x more than other places. Plus may be a lot of corruption and folks creating challenges for the project.
I didn't know this existed when I visited. It would be a massive improvement to connect the airport to Waikiki
Welcome to 1980s technology. Vancouver has had a driverless LRT system since 1986 in the form of the SkyTrain. Probably the most successful LRT in all of North America
There are countries like china , having more than 10,000 km of metro but also some countries struggling to build 30 km metro😂
Can you think of a reason why ?
look at the quality of the chinese metro system, look at videos about the issues of the chinese metro. it isn’t sustainable for china.
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@@stankythecat6735red tape, bureaucratic bloat, inferior system, democrats.
in many ways it reminds me of the mess that is Rome's Line C. Costs have ballooned astronomically, archaeological remains have stumped the project (leading to the loss of one station and the dramatic redesigning of several others), the construction was subdivided in segments (instead of doing the whole thing in one go) and they started with the least useful bit.
Dubai has already doing driverless trains since 2009. And all 75 kilometres are driverless making it in the world records
Not anymore. Singapore is way ahead.
2009 that’s when they started building the high-speed rail system in California. Democrats stole all that money but I hear it’s really fast
I was surprised that you used a picture of Santiago's Metro L5 to showcase the elevated option. Thank you for that!
Elevated rail is the smartest move. Foot traffic is the life blood of retail, so getting tourists around easier, is ideal.
I think it'll be worth it in the long run. Right now though... not really doing anything.
Sometimes, “sunk costs” aren’t a fallacy. 🤷🏻♂️😄
With a big project like this, people just need to give it time to get build out. It's still under construction, and luckily, they seem to be on track to finish the other segments in the near future. Once the downtown and airport segments are finished, it'll be very useful. This is great news and I'd love to visit when it's finished. Keep in mind, the great metro systems around the world were not built in a day. I saw their are proposals to expand to the University and Waikiki and other areas which would be great to see in the future.
There's a valid argument that it costs too much when other countries could build for less. Ultimately, it comes down to bureaucracy and poor management which was mentioned in the video. Metro systems in America need to start streamlining design and engineering in-house. A lot of that cost is paying other people to come in a do the work for way more, taking up valuable resources and time. If we had design, engineering teams for these metro systems, the cost for these projects wouldn't be so astronomical, and we could see regular expansions to our metro systems rather than once a decade.
That being said, it is difficult to compete against free (go figure). By that, I mean, highways are subsidized by an insane margin that it's no wonder cities opt for building them instead of public transportation. Long term as cities are finding out, they can't keep up with the infrastructure cost of these huge highways that take up valuable space away from urban development. It's not sustainable how we build our infrastructure in the US. It needs to change. Deregulate!
The issue with the rail is it just doesn't go to a lot of places where people actually want to go. If it can be expanded into the city, with off shoots to places like Salt Lake and UH it would really help with traffic
Its planned to go in the city, said city has the wst traffic in the US.
This project is really similar to the one in Montreal (REM)
REM is probably better in many aspects because it went with standardized off the shelf technologies and parceled them together... No third rail, just overhead wires which are still the most reliable and affordable option especially in places like Canada where snow can interfere with signals and power supply. And of course modified but standardized Alstom train using standard gauge rails... I honestly hope Edmonton and Calgary launch these soon as part of the Alberta railway roadmap planned for Summer 2025 launch... In theory it lays out railway projects from 2025 until 2040 including Edmonton and Calgary regional express rail, a Calgary-Banff Regional Train, Edmonton-Calgary High Speed Rail and some other Regional lines... In theory anyway... ;-)
Well, we have a homemade Greater Jakarta LRT. It's GOA 3 consists of 2 branching services with a combined length of 44 km and 18 stations.
Do make some videos on Indian Metros - Like Delhi or Bengaluru. Some innovative initiatives are there
they need to build high density housing around phase 1
The Little Andaman project is not a sustainable initiative compared to the second project located in Vizhinjam in Kerala. The Vizhinjam project is strategically positioned near an international trade route, making it a better choice for trade purposes. While the Little Andaman project raises significant environmental concerns, the Vizhinjam project does not face such issues.
With the ongoing economic boom in India, the Vikas Bharat initiative appears more viable and economically promising. The Vizhinjam project, with its proximity to Thiruvananthapuram, promotes regional development and benefits nearby cities. This government-backed initiative strengthens the economy by facilitating mother ship connections, making it a key player in enhancing India's trade capabilities.
Moreover, the Vizhinjam project is expected to transform the region into a shipping hub for India. The first phase of this project is set to be completed by 2024, with further developments planned to attract more investment into the region. Economically, it is a more viable and sustainable option compared to the time-consuming and resource-intensive Little Andaman project.
5:13 only the second segment will open in 2025, the third will open 2031 and the fourth is not in the current budget so it is not known if it even will be built
In Hawaii-it’s why build it right the first time when you can keep work on building until you retire. Like H3 10 mile freeway 30 years. It took 6-7 years to add 2 lanes to a stretch of 3 miles of Kalanianaole highway. Big part of the problem is the corruption when every level except the Federal is corrupt in your state it’s hard for the people to benefit. People rather vote in a known corrupt democrat than a unknown candidate. The dept of transportation ideal to help traffic is reduce speed limits, remove lanes, add traffic lights where not needed, add speed humps where not needed, more no right turn on red lights. There biggest innovation is an ideal many decades old of having all corner walk and don’t walk signals at busy intersections. Which means they met quota of 1 thing to improve traffic for the decade.
ah yes vote for the republican to cut basic education and utilliies.
Why not tax the billionaires who are buying all the land, and the tourists who's numbers are always increasing.
But first let's start with Billionaires like The Meta CEO who is buying enough land to make his own private country, unacceptable meanwhile he is doing nothing for the community so take his money god sake
they should’ve taxed Mr oracle CEO who bought a whole island 🤦♂️
Take his money that he earned and spent it the way he wants to? You’re foolish.
Original plans called for rail to go all the way to UH, but that was scrapped early on. It’s a shame. I voted for steel on steel, and I’m not sure if it was the correct choice.
Our local native Hawaiians call it the most corrupt project in Hawaii. It’s been a meme since its creation. The active times of the rail are stupid and not even 24hrs. The amount of money it costs yearly to upkeep it absolutely greatly outweighs the amount of riders. I have only ever seen a handful or less of riders at any given time. The city buses are packed to the gills way more than the rail.
big fan as always
I was stationed in Hawaii for the Navy from 2011 - 2016 and would have to say, they should change their motto to the traffic jam state, so yes I think this is something that is needed. However, the amount of time they are taking to finish this makes me sick, but doesn't surprise me either. I lived close enough to Kamehameha highway to be able to watch them work on this from my balcony and the sheer amount of just sitting around they did was disgusting. I could be over egadurating, but it seemed like they would work maybe 30 minutes in an 8 hour shift? I noticed the workers would sit around and chat for hours on end getting nothing done, now whether this was because of waiting on materials or because they were encouraged by their company to do so, so that they could make more money I couldn't say. Either way, the sheer slow pace that this thing is being built, at the over budgeting shows yet another example of a government project that is struggling.
you aren't exaggerating at all, its been years and they have hardly done anything past the airport but can at least say the section near aloha stadium/pearl is running so its "successful", despite being empty almost every day
meanwhile it already has serious issues breaking down and people needing to walk all the way off already
The mistake was starting in the area least busy first. While more expensive initially, starting in the city then going west would already have a population center that could use the service more often than what it is now.
They did this because it was the first part they were allowed to start construction.
7pm closing time is nuts.
Big fan
It isn't worth it. When it was proposed and one of the reasons the council voted against it was the rail in the 60's had no park and rides near the train stations. and there was no money allocated to expand the buses to feed the rail. The rail also was going to lose money for every mile they went further than Kalihi. It was not going to reduce traffic because most of the people who commute do not live along the rail route. So it would not serve the areas where traffic was coming from like the North Shore, Waianae, Central Oahu. the Kapolei station was built on empty land across the future site of West Oahu College site, which still has not been built. It was supposed to go to the U.H., now it will stop short at Ala Moana. In town, there are is good bus service with a bus coming every five minutes to somewhere. It is not like that in rural areas and bus routes don't serve enough of the suburb communities to make it practical to take the bus. Both the bus and the rail run during the day. People working overnight can get a ride. People working earlier than 6 a.m. or getting off after 10:30 p.m. had to have alternate transportation. This is still true to this day. The people who ride the rail are the same people who would otherwise ride the bus and where it is now, it ends at the stadium, in the middle of nowhere and they have to ride the bus to get into town. The next section that connects to a major bus hub may improve that but they have to expand their operating hours for the rural areas. Now most people have to leave at 4:30 a.m. to ger a parking space and get to work on time. The rail does not connect to Pearl Harbor, a major employer. Neither the bus nor the rail will start early enough for people who need to be at work at 5-6 a.m. coming from the rural areas that have poor bus service on a good day and no rail access. It is quiet, but it is an eyesore, and it has detrimentally affected business around the rail while it was being built and cut off access to some businesses altogether if they have to make a left turn or make U turn somewhere or go in a side street and turn around to get to the other side. Nothing in Hawaii built of steel will be rust free, go look at the stadium that needs to be torn down. The steel wheels and rails are going to rust. There is a lot of places with soft soil that is going to make drilling pylons especially around Ala Moana (which was a swamp and when it rains puddles appear in the lower level parking lots) More mysterious cracks are probably going to be found. Not only is the cost of the rail way more than when it was proposed. They don't have enough ridership to even pay for the annual maintenance. Everyone opposes higher taxes since we already have the regressive state tax that taxes everything. The city is paying a ridiculous amount of money to have the state collect the 1/2 percent tax which costs people more since they actually make more money than that because rounding up of those half pennies add up.
A small price to pay for (hopefully) safe and reliable transportation
Ok 😂
We don’t need the rail in Hawaii. It is in the wrong location and stops many miles from anywhere. Utterly useless. It is always empty.
@@Wisdom808 For now. They are supposed to all be Transit Oriented Developments infilled at each stop much like Vancouver are they not? And limited hours don't help... Who though 7 PM was a good cut off time? Honestly...
Only it’s not a “small price”
our generation's grandchildren will benefit from this rail sure, but for now its going to be a pain in the ass for many more years before its even efficiently up and running enough to make any of that money back
Montreal canada is building a 67-km elevated rail line similar to this with phase one already complete and running. They started construction in 2018. The project is projected to cost 6.7 billion usd. Even compared to similar countries usa and hawaii remains borrible at creating public transit
Good job on pronunciation of Hawaiian place names.
Only one short-coming: "Kaka'ako" has two a's in a row, with *both pronounced* , as in "Kaka-ako".
8 freeway lanes only being able to move 40,000 people per day is just pathetic. The Shinjuku Station in Tokyo moves 3,000,000+ through it per day. Cars are just too expensive and space inefficient to make any sense as the only mode of transit unless you like being broke and in traffic all the time.
Remove 40,000 cars off the road? If you take 5000 cars off the road then H-1 becomes a viable option. My guess is that if the rail shaves off 30 minutes of a 90 minute commute then people will stay in their cars. The question is how many cars have to leave for H-1 and the rail to reach an equalibriam. 5000? 10000? It ain't 40000.
It's not AI controlled at all. Its a very common control system that is used in Europe. It's actually kind of outdated Fixed Block technology.
If Detroit had expanded their UTDC/Bombardier/Alstom central loop it would have been the first but you know... Either way automated, driverless rail transport is and always should be the future... Thankfully Vancouver and Montreal now have extensive automated metro systems built or under construction as well as Toronto's second automated line but only open one since the Scarborough RT was demolished for mostly political reasons...
i wonder if they considered covering the viaducts with solar panels to offset carbon emissions from electricity generation :shrug: not that there would have been any budget for it, but it may have helped community perception of the invasive concrete snake winding its way across the island,
A pretty good summary of the HART system but you left out the fact the system was to serve the University of Hawaii, Manoa but it was short-stopped at Ala Moana . UHM is the number one commuter destination , not downtown.
Also you left out the fact that SIDA (State Independent Taxi Association) tied up the project in lawsuits to prevent the rail from serving the airport. And thereby cutting into their lucrative. Waikiki to HNL business.
I was there when convicted felon and city counsel woman, Rene Mansho cast the killer vote to prevent funding the project 30 years ago. The vote was to impose a ½ of 1% tax increase for 10 years to fund the project . No doubt the project would have been already completed by now at considerable savings if not for her.
The project does not terminate at Kapolei but in a deserted sugar cane field. What were they thinking?
I suspect lack of service to Waikiki has something to do with those pesky taxi drivers.
Using steel in concrete construction is the normal procedure, making sure the steel inside the concrete doesn't rust is a problem, ask the folks in Miami where that apartment building fell down or the folks over in Italy who had a big bridge failure. Cracking is the first sign of problems. Reagan is often blamed for cutting money from the budget but the real cost cutter was Carter, he looked at the spending on the DC metro and nearly tore his hair out. Yea, that was out of control. These cost numbers are pretty wicked but this is Hawaii, remember that EVERYTHING had to be brought in from the mainland and getting coordination between both sides becomes awfully expensive. There are no railway experts on Hawaii, at one time they had some but that was in the past. Having government agencies build something makes it cost more, often a lot more. Too often government bureaucrats are put in charge of something that they known little or nothing about, this usually doesn't work out well. Way back when, the private companies that built the bulk of the existing NYC transit system did so rather quickly and it's been in service for over 100 years now so I guess it was pretty good, it's taken over 40 years to build the very limited Second Ave. subway in Manhattan promised to residents in the 1950s being built by a government agency.
It depends on the expertice, capacities, and liberties given to the transit agency. There's a reason that Europe (with extensive govermental control over public transit), and even Latin America are able to construct and provide extensive transit: giving more power over to the transit agency
Resident of Oahu. The rail has been a big bust so far. Ridership of the current working segment is almost non existent.
Absolutely not. For 1% of the cost of this, you could have developed a massive cycling network that would have taken far more people out of cars, especially in the ideal weather O'ahu has.
I am a local teen still living in Hawaii, Oahu and I have a great view of Skyline. But I will say this is a waste of money though I don't understand much about transportation on the ground I do know they could have done better with that $11B to strengthen our tourism or our economy.
you know its not normal to be stuck in traffic for several hours each day right?
I've yet to see more than just a few people riding it. Most of the time looks totally empty.
Metro de Santiago ❤
Regis, when are you going to make a video about de Chacao channel bridge on Chiloé?
If it can just reach the airport then there is some benefit.
What's with the street view, Google?
that looks like the skytrain
So cause this railway is 29.8 kilometers long, and its cost is $11B, this railway costs an absurd 370 million dollars per kilometer. Unreal. Keep in mind, the average high speed rail project costs only 20-100 million per kilometer (and this rail isn't even high speed...). 🙉
They should have done gondolas.
Let me see if I understand .
11 billion and it does not go the Waikiki where most of the hotels and restaurants are and tens of thousands of service workers need to travel to ?
Just walk from the mall ?
It's worse. They ran out of money and cut the last two stations off from the plan. It won't even get to the mall.
being hawai under american control, i did not expect a different outcome. As always this is a political project, and not a real project to serve the people. only political interest.
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The high speed rail I voted for 20 years ago at 8 billion still
Not done and when it partially opens it will not serve what it was designed for Modesto to Stockton or some other cities just as nuts !
At lest it is hundreds of miles not 15 for 11 billion .
Adjusted for inflation the Hawaii project
Costs more than the transcontinental
Railroad to build .
I am just surprised that to Americans the whole process seems state of the art and challenging, meanwhile, CHina and India are building these systems like its Wednesday
It was not always like this. In the early 20th century the US had the best public transportation in the entire world. However, through car-centric policies they reversed most of their progress, and are currently trying to gain it back
Its because america has not invested in rail for decades. They have fallen behind and lack the experience and expertise to build rail
@@ciello___8307 In reality its becase unlike indiia and china there is such a thing as property and land rights
Could you refuse for treck music.? It spill the attention
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Hawaiian islands are a lot bigger than people realize
Oh my God, it cost $11 billion for that? Our government does not know how to manage money.
5:30 what am i looking at
maybe they should have spend that money on fixing the terrible roads instead
I was there in 1988 and it was bad, very bad.
Job security is the reason why its taking too long to build the tracks. 😂
Looks like Tyson’s.
it looks cool. But wish the engineering were better.
Please stop using metres!!
This is America we use feet and miles here. 🏈🇺🇸
The rest of the world uses meters. This video is aimed at a global audience, so it is using the measurement unit that the majority of the world uses.
BRO! VANCOUVER HAS SKYTRAIN BUT HAWAII WANTS TO COPY CANADA!!!!!! CANADA EVEN HAS LONGER BUSES TRAVEL AND SEABUS THAT IS A BOAT AND SKYTRAIN AND WEST CAOST EXPRESS
BTW i live in Vancouver
Nobody rides the rail. The rail doesn’t go anywhere good. You would have to take the rail then take the bus to where you need to go.
4:20 - So not even a special dude on board who can just stop it for stupid people playing with the doors or blocking them?
Doesn't matter, nobody riding it anyways (seriously, only only 2500 per day)
It takes a long time because of gov regulation.
As always with countrys/islands under american rule. The amount of bureacracy, corruption incompetence, and the project being a political project, rather then to be a real public transit project, meant to serve the public. This project seems to be meant for political gain rather then to serve the public as public transit is meant to be. For these reasons, it will have low ridership, will be way above the budget, and wont be finished anytime soon.
Its literally the state with the highest traffic jams.
It was fast
Timestamps (Powered by Merlin AI)
00:04 - Hawaii's Skyline rail project faces decades of challenges and delays.
01:50 - Efforts to alleviate traffic in Oahu faced multiple failures and challenges.
03:35 - Honolulu's elevated rail system combats congestion while enabling driverless technology.
05:13 - Oahu’s railway project faces ongoing political and public challenges despite progress.
06:54 - Hawaii's railway construction faces cultural and environmental challenges.
08:25 - Hawaii's railway project faces engineering challenges and structural issues.
10:06 - Hawaii's railway project faces design flaws, delays, and funding challenges.
11:47 - Hawaii's railway struggles with low passenger numbers and funding challenges.
Disney should replace their monorails with these.
Wow how❤😊😅😮
I am in Hawaii. The Rail is worthless. No one uses it and it was always a development project and never about easing congestion or improving transportation. Hawaii is the most corrupt state in the USA. People need to be in jail for this scam.
i am sure a lot of people have pocketed a lot of money out of this.
Its literally not finished.
too little too late
USA and Railway really don’t match
This rail is a joke. Wasted money spent. And they want to spend more? Bad Idea to continue.
A bus rapid transit line or just a one-way highway may have made more sense.
That's what you get when you have to gain expertise basically from zero. USA will spend a lot of time and money to go back from car-centric society
China would have completed this in 3 years.
Agreed
And with how many workers dead and how many people homeless?
It would have fallen apart on another 3.. standards do not exist in China..
@@arxligion I hate it when people get jealous and assume something out of nowhere
@@AmNotNuclear cracks and the dams and bridges after two years
Number 1
it's not worth the effort because no one likes public transportation
Another example if that old adage...just because you CAN does not mean you SHOULD...dgp/uk
It will ruin the island scenes, if stay above ground, but it will be bad for tourism if go underground.
This railway was a particularly stupid idea in the first place.
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Hawaii's $11 billion Skyline railway project, in development for over 50 years, aims to reduce traffic congestion on Oahu. The 30km elevated, driverless system faces numerous challenges, including cost overruns, delays, and structural issues, but supporters argue its long-term benefits outweigh the costs.
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