How to get that Vintage, Muted, Rubbery bass tone (Tame Impala, Beatles, Pink Floyd)
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- Опубликовано: 21 июл 2024
- How to get that Vintage, Muted, Rubbery bass tone!
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FLATWOUNDS: "never change them" HA!! That is true. I have flatwound bass strings on my Fender Precision basses that have outlasted my first two marriages!!
How did the first two sets strings break?
Honestly kind of an achievement gg
Go for at least 3 more!
Damn same string for three years 😂
What kind of flats do you recommend? The Rotos are the most affordable to me, but I've read mixed reviews about them. Thomastiks and La Bellas are among the most beloved, but they're really expensive and hard to find in my country.
Shortscale, Flatwounds, turn up low mids.
What’s short scale?
John Miguel a bass with a shorter scale than normal. A Hofner bass is a good example, versus say a fender P-bass or something.
Bass uke with the rubber strings...
@@KitwiSauce 30 inches.
Standard Leo Fender scale is 34 inches. Longer scale results in higher string tension resulting in more harmonics.
Short scale has lesser string tension for more of the base fundamental frequency.
Also a softer feel.
Edit:spelling.
Not shortscale so much. the bass being used in the studios in the 60s mostly was the Fender Precision Bass with the stock foam strip under the bridge cover
Kevin Parker's basslines are the best to be found in music in recent years.
Vulfpeck has some killer basslines too
Ariel pink
UMO
Thundercat
You really need to listen more music
I like it when the bass sounds like "downg downg doww doh doh dowwng" instead of sounding like a low-note piano.
Yūta S. Wdym
like here? Or where?
I like both. On some mellow stuff a mellow sound is perfekt, but on a rough metal mix I love this piano like sound.
I should mention that the palm mute technique with the pick can lead to fatigue and pain pretty quickly, even if it's perfect for guitar.
That's why the sponge/foam was originally used, to prevent hands falling off at hours long gigs and sessions.
yup, good point.
Instead of putting more pressure when you want to mute more you can also move your hand towards the pick ups, how further away you get from the bridge how more you are muting. That way you don't need to put any use any pressure
It's really not that bad, a lot of it is pressure and volume control. You can palm mute for a long period of time and still get the job done, turn your rig up a little more and pick less hard so you don't have to mute as hard Just work smarter and not harder.
-From a longtime gigger that picks aggressively
I actually didn't realize that and wondered why my hand would start hurting after playing for a whole song.
#can’trelate one of my biggest bass heroes is Bobby Vega. I palm mute all the time when using a pick and I don’t feel pain. I’m talking several hours of it a day, minimum, for 20+ years. Often what happens, and I think what you’re referring to, is when a cat’s going for this kind of sound they lay their palm down over all the strings and then start using their finger and thumb muscles to move the pick through the strings. Definitely delivers the plunky warm sound we’re after in this scenario. But that’s poor economy of motion and basically just bad technique. I find it’s good to get more of your picking motion from muscles farther up your arm, and for the mutes you can just get some skin in contact and either clamp it down with a little turn of the wrist or leave it a little more open.
But hey, it’s all about the sound, and any way we get there is good as long as we pay attention to our bodies.
That Feels Like We Only Go Backwards bass line isolated and played like that sounded it could be a 70s funk song
Timestamps please?
@@wiggledixbubsy98 2:20
Oh eirik, what a buterry sweet tone. I really love the bassline of "Feels like we only go backwards" and "It's not meant to be". Nice video!
thanks Gabriel!
Btw McCartney DID use a pick on taxman, he pretty much always used a pick great video
he did? haha
yeah, paul mccartney used a pick for most of his playing. he was primarily a guitar player, so it probably came from that
Gehrig Cupo If McCartney and Carol Kaye both used picks, that’s good enough for me
KingNary9th primarily he was a bass player not guitar
@@icyc909 I think he might have been referring to how McCartney was intially one of the band's guitarists. He switched to bass after their original bassist, Stu Sutcliffe, passed away.
this is singlehandedly the most helpful audio production tutorial I've ever watched. Thank you for this.
The Origin fx pedal is a recreation of an 1176* compressor (to a point). In case someone is interested in recreating the sound here.
*there are plenty of plugins created after that unit
This video is what I've been trying to find! I'm not a gear head and I didn't even know how to describe the sound I was imagining. Thank you so much
To get the McCartney sound on the Horner, have the rhythm on, bass off and treble on. Those are the settings for the three switches next to the volume knobs. That setting is what Paul always used on each Beatles song that has a hofner. So from please please me to help and on let it be. On the other albums, he used his rick except for the white album. He mainly used a fender jazz bass.
McCartney’s Hofner bass settings are R/S switch on Solo, bass on and treble off. He almost never used the bridge pickup, if at all.
Exactly what i was hoping to find when i opened youtube today. Thanks!
Great tips and clear explanations about a vintage bass sound that really hard to imitate. I enjoyed your video and all of your tips was exactly right in my case. Thank you very much!
I've always loved this bass tone!
What a great content. I knew some of these tips by my own experience trying to get this type of sound, but the things you said clarified my mind as I wasn't able to get it 100% accurate.
Thanks for the tips. Definitely subscribed.
Glad you like it and welcome!
This is also great for playing classic dub/roots reggae. A lot of this reminds me of the Scientist, King Tubby etc
Scientisimo Apprenticemaster.
Great stuff! Thanks for the cool content!
I just wish i was rubbery enough to sit on the floor and play
haha, I'm so far away from doing that.
Your tip on the use of a compressor is genius. It really made my hollow-body violin bass sound rubbery with a slight tinge of pick attack. Thud.. thud.. thud.. Thank you very much sir.
What kind of compressor did you use?
I like this style of videos a lot dude, keep it coming!
Me too, thanks for checking it out David!
King Gizzard are great practitioners of this method, too. They use a mustang/musicmaster with (apparently) fender flatwounds. Sounds very crisp and Can inspired
I weave a shoelace through the strings at the bridge, because finding the right foam is a hassle. Also I can tighten it however I want, so much more versatile, if harder to set up.
Good info man, you nailed it!
Appreciate it!
Massive respect. That was a great video.
Thanks! 🙏🏻
I've been wondering how this tone was made, thank you for this informative video.
Glad to help!
Great idea for a video. Nailed that tone on “the less I know the better”!
One of the best examples I've found of this bass tone is in the game Bully from Rockstar. I personally achieved this tone by plugging into the Custom Channel of my Vibrolux with my P bass.
Yes! I loved the bass sound in that game
Killer ost
Also, a felt pick can help in achieving that classic sound, especially if playing a more modern bass.
You want authentic? Then put La bella flats on a pbass or jazz bass, then get some 3/8" tall X 1/2" wide black foam rubber weather stripping at Ace Hardware closed cell, medium density. Stick it on the bridge cover just like Fender did originally but you gotta put it right up against the bridge saddles. Voila authentic mute with just the right decay. Then just adjust your treble as desired.
Great video, subbed!
Awesome, thank you!
Great video, been wondering how to get this sound on my bass!
Glad you like it!
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Guys who use stingrays: "great video"
Guys who already play a p bass with flats: "hmm I'm gonna skip this one"
P bass for this sound is great! Short scales are even better. I just used this bass to prove that some simple steps can give you this tone no matter what bass you have.
Totally agree with you
Beautiful sound
It sure is! Thanks for checking out the video!
Great video! What kind Bass d.i would you reccom to get ghis big sound? Cheers!
I own a Höfner Ignition Series Violin Bass with La Bella Flatwounds and you get that old school sound pretty easily 👌
probably the best bass for this sound!
Same here, Bradleigh.
@@howlin6521 I haven't had the opportunity to play one yet but sounds good!
I've been wondering about this tone, I hear it mostly in Black keys like "weight of love"
well it's on almost every beatle record
When did the Black Keys get a bassist?
@@HighDeafRadio since 2010, on the Brothers tour
Pretty sure Dan did the bass in studio for every record of their’s (the ones that have bass, that is).
Awesome, exactly what I was looking for. What tape machine plugin did/do you use?
Great video! What tape saturation plugin are you using, and what kind of settings if you would be so kind?
Nice video, thank you
Glad you liked it!
I've never heard a Music Man bass sound that muted and dead. The videos I've seen of it are usually played with round wounds, with tone all the way up and are slapped. But this sounds really good.
AWESOME!!!!!!
I like to use Mustang Bass, Tape Wound strings, a piece of foam from a pelican case near the bridge, tone at 0, & pick or no pick depending on the song to get that sound. Cool video !
Literally same even the pelican foam hahha
the Serge Gainsbourg sound - love it!
Sounds like a Ric to me!!
@@johnbarry1965 can be a lot of different basses. depends on the way you play the strings, with a guitar pick and close to the bridge, cutting most of the sustain of the strings. some people also put a piece of foam below the strings close to the bridge. i really love the sound.
Bump Bump Bump
Hey awesome video! Does anyone know a good saturation pedal to suit this type of tone/setup?
4:49
*Glenn Fricker wants to know your location*
Sounds dope man, would you mind making a video showing what you're using inside the Bias FX 2 plugin?
This!
Charming chap! :)
Every point you made is correct.
💪🏻
What is the source that says Macca did not use a pick for the Taxman bass part?
I love using felt picks 😁
As far as the tone knob goes where should I keep that?
Awesome sound! Can you do a lil tutorial on using compression and compare different compressor pedals?
what he said^
Imho what works is something which emphasizes the tone, so you need a compressor setting with a short attack, long release and low threshold, and turn up the gain. It's especially good on compressors which add a bit of tube saturation to the signal.
Depending on your recording, as the threshold is low, you might want a gate before the compressor.
Can you make a bias tutorial for good tone? I find it hard to dial in something i like and always have to rely on other uploads
Ive done this with my Ibanez RG bass, with a 5 string set of Labella flats (tuned BEAD, no G) and even tho the pickups are crappy and also active, i get pretty close to the older sound. I want something passive or at least replace the pickups because theyre finicky and mostly bad.
Definitely use a neck pickup if you have it. Roger Waters plays an old P bass, Paul McCartney never uses his bridge pickup, idk what Kevin parker does but he uses that Hofner too.
I use a pick while playing my p bass to try to get that vintage tone but all I hear is that loud annoying clicking. Do any of you gear nerds know how I can reduce this?
Oh boy did taxman sound tasty, great video! Cheers!
Thanks!
How did you turn off the preamp? I was under the impression that with Stingrays, the preamp is always on when it's plugged in.
Took out the battery 🙈
what plugin did you say you use? It was hard to get with the accent.
You seem like such a nice guy❤️
Video chiaro e sopratutto con traduzione in italiano, complimenti
That bass is insane. What heads did you use in BIAS???
More TAME IMPALA please!!
Wait, Lemme guesse! Passive pickup with flat wound strings??
what is name use bass model?
Also check out the rubbery bass sound of the Canadian “Timber Timbre”
Best band of today!
YES great tones 🤘🏼 that line in Black Water is so nice
Nice video man! The examples you play to illustrate your point really help 🤙🏼
Glad it was helpful!
okay, understand that flatwounds are a tip here. but what about using roundwounds?
What pick are you using? Looks like a felt pick?
How about string action?
I use felt picks. Rounds chew them up but they're buttery on flats
using the less i know the better for reference isnt the best choice since that song was actually done on guitar with the roland gk-3 synth pickup going through the roland gr-55
Can you share more details on the amp and settings you're using on Bias Fx 2? Great tone!
Blue Line amp, some gain so it bites. Bass and treble at noon, boosted mids a tiny bit.
That sound at 3:44 is only made by compresor and EQ ?
I use a hofner 185 short scale (artist bass i think its called) and black nylon tapewounds. Flatwounds don't have as much tone as tapewounds but maybe thats just me.
Dude, so weird!!! I also just learned most of these techniques to get that Mccartney bass tone, about a week ago. Mostly just ended up using foam under the bridge recovered from my mate's Dog's bed mattress thingy a pick and the picking bass preset in Guitar rig 5. All to help in my future "Let it be" multi-instrument cover video I'm doing for my RUclips page. Are we like on the same wavelength or something?
I once did the same, you should try tapewound strings, it makes a huuge difference, and McCartney used them quite a lot, it makes your bass sound a lot closer in most of their songs, and the feel is cool too
Hofner and a felt pick with boosted mids. You’re welcome.
Get a cheap shortscale violin bass and try Rotosound RS88LD Black Nylons. Instant 60s. Used these strings on a Framus shortscale years ago in a coverband for all 60s work....
Carol Kaye bass sounded like this as well .
Can someone help with the names of the songs?
Hi
What BIAS FX preset do you use? or did you create your own one for this tone, if so what is the chain?
Thanks
Blue Line! Very little tweaking from how it is from the get go.
you sound just like Taika Waititi in what we do in the shadows, cool af
haha, do I? Love that movie
So sickkkk mate!!! what plugin did you use to get that warm Tame impala tone
Positive Grid Bias 2 and Waves J37
MM played with palm muted pick is an amazing sound!
MM?
@@LivingroomGearDemos Music Man
My absolute favorite bass track of all time is sympathy for the devil, which I read was played by Keith Richards on the ‘68 recording, not Bill Wymsn. Lots of attack, deep, woody, hollow sound.
Try the nylon coated flat wound strings also!
If you time it correctly, you can get a sweet base loop of "Money" by pressing "J" at 3:10 mins
Hofner ignition series with a orange 🍊 bass amp, played with a pick. Only issue is I HATE the bridge on the hofner, so I am going to get a fender precision or jag. I like ole muddy bass tones but I also like clean well rounded tones when needed.
The bridges ruin the Bass
Let's have the Tubular Bells late side 1 riff - I can feel it straining to burst out.
The Less Fresh Strings The Better
best tame impala tune imho
@@LivingroomGearDemos one of the best, but yeah, catchy af
Bruh you look like Gordon Ramsey.
I AM Gordon Ramsey.
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I liked that Davie reference 😄👌🏼
Less talk more rock!
Get a squier bronco bass, honestly the closest I have gotten without even trying flatwounds, eq , etc etc
Ernie Ball buys an ad in which you say never change your strings. deftly
this made me wanna play a bass even tho i only have a guitar 🥺