@@benger88 completely agree! If a company is going to take care of their customers like that then I will remain loyal and buy everything from them. I already have the rower and bike. If I do get a ski erg it WILL be a concept 2.
I wish, as other person said in the comments that more had been said about the inertia factor, C2 is forgiving on that you can pull hard and take a second between pulls at mid range damper settings but likely on this machine, given how magnetic resistance works, should not be as forgiving (if any at all). More details about the actual experience of using it would be great. As for price point, it depends on the need: If you care for your wall and floor space (most garage gym owners) and don’t care for the workout data storage, then this is a great product idea. C2 doesn’t make this cheaper really, if you want to open the wall space you need to pay also for the stand, which is very expensive IMO. Also C2 charges 100 for shipping, when all is added C2 ends up being more expensive than torque even when including the wall mount because shipping is free on this item if you don’t care for wall space and don’t want to move it around, then C2 is a no brainer. It is a cheaper option and well known. If you want something you can move around, the only option is C2, but it is not cheap really. Also consider with the stand not only takes wall space but now also floor space (if not space constrained then who cares, but if you are, then something to consider). I own a C2 skierg and it is mounted to the wall, I wouldn’t sell mine to buy this really, but if I was in the process of buying, this would have been a serious option to consider to get back that space in the wall to move other machines closer and open more floor space, or put hangers under it for storing bands and other stuff which doesn’t get in the way of its use
I can think of a 100 better ways to spend a grand in my gym. I do love the fact it can be mounted on the wall and out of the way. I will stick with my heavy bag for conditioning work. Thanks so much for the review. As always great job.
I’ve been waiting for a review. A bit expensive but worth it. I understand the Ripper isn’t an end game to C2 skierg but as a 2 car garage gym owner, floor space is a premium. I don’t like clutter. Im already rocking a Jacob’s Ladder 2, Rogue echo bike, and C2 rower. I’m good with the Ripper being an excellent alternative to the skierg. Torque Fitness is making some quality equipment. The design looks pretty sweet to me.
With those three options already in place + walking, biking and running probably being an available option, what do you want a ski erg for anyway if space is scarce?
@@andersbjrnsen7203 The Ripper will be installed on my rack opposite side of the Tq Fitness endless rope. I recently sold my C2 Ski erg on Offer Up to purchase the Ripper. I enjoy switching up cardio workouts to reduce boredom. I did enjoy the ski erg though. 😎
It was about $400 more than what I was expecting lol. I could try to justify the price but there were so many reviews about the rope wearing out (fraying) that there’s no scenario where I want it in my home.
For what goes into building it and the relatively low volume, shipping, etc the price seems reasonable. The issue is that the Concept2 has a great price for what is arguably a better product.
Excellent, honest review. I actually am surprised skierg is your favorite machine. I have one and the C2 rowerg and much prefer the rowerg. I do use them both, but average 100-150k a month on rowerg and only 10-20k on Skierg. I have mine on the stand and in a garage gym where space is at a premium, I like the idea of the Torque a lot. I have their sled and love it. Great company.
Very intriguing option especially with the space savings compared to the Concept SkiErg. Definitely want to know on durability and Torques customer support. SkiErgs are just high wear devices and Concepts customer support is stellar.
How heavy is the flywheel? I generally dislike magnetic resistance (even in high-end rowers and bikes) for two reasons: drag is constant regardless of speed; inadequate inertia. Together, I find the experience as pleasant as ploughing through wet sand by foot or bike (i.e. not). The latter is mitigated by a large flywheel. It looks like there isn't space for a large flywheel in this setup. How long does it spin after you pull? It would seem to me that for the rope application, you would not want any significant inertia, but for skiing you would.
I'd like to see how accurate the calories and meters are compared to the C2. Maybe make a video on it? I'd find it hard to decide to purchase it if it doesn't match 1:1 with the C2 because I do CrossFit workouts.
Would 100% buy this with a nice upcharge if there were a possibility to swap out the rope as you mentioned! Hopefully it's possible.. However, as-is I wouldnt even consider buying before the pulley fix. Will def be looking into this in the future for the rack mounting option though. That's huge.
Looks like you need a pretty high rack for this thing not to get in your way. And I'd be leery of mounting it on a 2x4 wall given the dynamic horizontal loads it creates.
Maybe I missed this in the video, but if you had to pick would you buy this or the Relentless Rope? (thinking from a conditioning / cardio perspective in a single car garage)
Off topic but can you please do a review on Major Fitness Adjustable Bench PLT01. i think it must be new as there isnt really any reviews about it but the price point is really making me intrigued. apparently has a 1300lb capacity and on sale for $220.
Can you please review the Body-Solid Endurance (CL300) Vertical Climber Exercise Machine, this seems to be a serious competitor to the Versa Climber magnetic at 1/4 the cost!
Normally I'd dismiss Skierg competitors out of hand, but rackmounting might give them a reason for being. Although your suggestion at the end is spot on, if there was some modularity to keep the cost down if you get multiple Relentless machines. Titan was protyping a rack-attached endless rope at HGC and you have to think their price will be competitive.
great to see more rack attached cardio pieces in the industry. Excited to see where it goes as not everyone can get the space for a C2 bikereg, rower or Echo bike. Although ofc the jump rope is a great alternative
If they fixed the cord rub, make the lever shorter like a handle, and made the mount a little more seamless to a rack - It would be instant buy for me. Hopefully V2.0 is an improvement.
To each his or her own. However, in my opinion, the best way to do cardio exercise is to do something that you enjoy doing, which includes playing ping pong, basketball, or using a Fitness First medicine ball rebounder. I had a Nordic Track ski exercise machine before. I got rid of it because IMO exercising on a ski machine is boring.
I wonder if you could swap those pulley brackets with each other, so the rounded side of them is facing out. That might fix the rubbing issue on the rope without having to cut anything.
@garage gym reviews, can you tell me what height rack you have that mounted too? want to know how high the handles would be if mounted to a REP PR5000 93" rack... feels like it could be too low
Love the idea of a SkiErg because of the small footprint. But I guess I just think a cardio item that doesn’t use/have resistance for your legs seems weird to me…
Concept 2 cannot be replicated. Duplicated or matched. The value of the concept 2 and the module and the community cannot be beat. I will always stick with the original AUTHENTIC designs- the best are the best for a reason.
dont think you ever did a review on inspires multigyms like body lift bl1 which i think is great, its way safer than all these freeweight setups of yours. How about doing a few reviews?
Good Lord, the stickers. Everywhere. Whomever was in charge of the stickers was working overtime. Such a shame--it's a nice piece of equipment that looks cheap due to the stickers. A few more stickers and they wouldn't have needed to paint it...
Most likely any power rack at 100” -Rogue’s Monster racks are 90” with optional 100” and 108” uprights. 90” may be a tad short for a few men but perfect for the wifey. I had a C2 Ski Erg, the handles were also a bit too high for my wife. She’s 5’2.
Its a no for me...1) way to expensive compared to concept 2) Paying for a wall mount pisses me off 3) The rubbing of the cord is bad and will cause wear
The SkiErg is perfect, and takes up hardly any space, easily mounts on wall, air resistance is perfect. Not sure what the point of this thing is. Filling a demand that doesn't exist?
@@ChrisP3000x Firstly, your question is wrong, because there is demand which the Skierg from CS proves. Secondly, your comment suggests, that they shouldnt create a product because there is already a very good product available. Im just saying that it is always good to have alternatives
If I am gonna drop a grand, I will just get the concept 2. The reliability of the concept 2 keeps it as king of the mountain.
And the community.
Also, top notch customer service and if you ever need replacement parts, they appear to be sold at cost.
@@benger88 completely agree! If a company is going to take care of their customers like that then I will remain loyal and buy everything from them. I already have the rower and bike. If I do get a ski erg it WILL be a concept 2.
I wish, as other person said in the comments that more had been said about the inertia factor, C2 is forgiving on that you can pull hard and take a second between pulls at mid range damper settings but likely on this machine, given how magnetic resistance works, should not be as forgiving (if any at all). More details about the actual experience of using it would be great.
As for price point, it depends on the need:
If you care for your wall and floor space (most garage gym owners) and don’t care for the workout data storage, then this is a great product idea. C2 doesn’t make this cheaper really, if you want to open the wall space you need to pay also for the stand, which is very expensive IMO. Also C2 charges 100 for shipping, when all is added C2 ends up being more expensive than torque even when including the wall mount because shipping is free on this item
if you don’t care for wall space and don’t want to move it around, then C2 is a no brainer. It is a cheaper option and well known.
If you want something you can move around, the only option is C2, but it is not cheap really. Also consider with the stand not only takes wall space but now also floor space (if not space constrained then who cares, but if you are, then something to consider).
I own a C2 skierg and it is mounted to the wall, I wouldn’t sell mine to buy this really, but if I was in the process of buying, this would have been a serious option to consider to get back that space in the wall to move other machines closer and open more floor space, or put hangers under it for storing bands and other stuff which doesn’t get in the way of its use
I can think of a 100 better ways to spend a grand in my gym. I do love the fact it can be mounted on the wall and out of the way. I will stick with my heavy bag for conditioning work. Thanks so much for the review. As always great job.
I’ve been waiting for a review. A bit expensive but worth it. I understand the Ripper isn’t an end game to C2 skierg but as a 2 car garage gym owner, floor space is a premium. I don’t like clutter. Im already rocking a Jacob’s Ladder 2, Rogue echo bike, and C2 rower. I’m good with the Ripper being an excellent alternative to the skierg. Torque Fitness is making some quality equipment. The design looks pretty sweet to me.
With those three options already in place + walking, biking and running probably being an available option, what do you want a ski erg for anyway if space is scarce?
@@andersbjrnsen7203 The Ripper will be installed on my rack opposite side of the Tq Fitness endless rope. I recently sold my C2 Ski erg on Offer Up to purchase the Ripper. I enjoy switching up cardio workouts to reduce boredom. I did enjoy the ski erg though. 😎
I was sold until I saw the price. 😭
It was about $400 more than what I was expecting lol. I could try to justify the price but there were so many reviews about the rope wearing out (fraying) that there’s no scenario where I want it in my home.
For what goes into building it and the relatively low volume, shipping, etc the price seems reasonable. The issue is that the Concept2 has a great price for what is arguably a better product.
Fr. Was definitely gunu save for it until… it’s more than the C2 😭
Same. Also at least with C2 you have amazing resell.
Over priced
Excellent, honest review. I actually am surprised skierg is your favorite machine. I have one and the C2 rowerg and much prefer the rowerg. I do use them both, but average 100-150k a month on rowerg and only 10-20k on Skierg. I have mine on the stand and in a garage gym where space is at a premium, I like the idea of the Torque a lot. I have their sled and love it. Great company.
Very intriguing option especially with the space savings compared to the Concept SkiErg.
Definitely want to know on durability and Torques customer support. SkiErgs are just high wear devices and Concepts customer support is stellar.
How heavy is the flywheel? I generally dislike magnetic resistance (even in high-end rowers and bikes) for two reasons: drag is constant regardless of speed; inadequate inertia. Together, I find the experience as pleasant as ploughing through wet sand by foot or bike (i.e. not). The latter is mitigated by a large flywheel. It looks like there isn't space for a large flywheel in this setup. How long does it spin after you pull? It would seem to me that for the rope application, you would not want any significant inertia, but for skiing you would.
I'd like to see how accurate the calories and meters are compared to the C2. Maybe make a video on it? I'd find it hard to decide to purchase it if it doesn't match 1:1 with the C2 because I do CrossFit workouts.
Would 100% buy this with a nice upcharge if there were a possibility to swap out the rope as you mentioned! Hopefully it's possible.. However, as-is I wouldnt even consider buying before the pulley fix. Will def be looking into this in the future for the rack mounting option though. That's huge.
Looks like you need a pretty high rack for this thing not to get in your way. And I'd be leery of mounting it on a 2x4 wall given the dynamic horizontal loads it creates.
Can you do a video on stall bars? I know I want some but I don't know what to look for when buying them.
Maybe I missed this in the video, but if you had to pick would you buy this or the Relentless Rope? (thinking from a conditioning / cardio perspective in a single car garage)
Off topic but can you please do a review on Major Fitness Adjustable Bench PLT01. i think it must be new as there isnt really any reviews about it but the price point is really making me intrigued. apparently has a 1300lb capacity and on sale for $220.
There is Concept2 and then there is everyone else. Cool idea, but I am sticking with C2.
dont know how i ended up at mkbhd but for gym equipment
Can you please review the Body-Solid Endurance (CL300) Vertical Climber Exercise Machine, this seems to be a serious competitor to the Versa Climber magnetic at 1/4 the cost!
Normally I'd dismiss Skierg competitors out of hand, but rackmounting might give them a reason for being. Although your suggestion at the end is spot on, if there was some modularity to keep the cost down if you get multiple Relentless machines. Titan was protyping a rack-attached endless rope at HGC and you have to think their price will be competitive.
great to see more rack attached cardio pieces in the industry. Excited to see where it goes as not everyone can get the space for a C2 bikereg, rower or Echo bike. Although ofc the jump rope is a great alternative
If they fixed the cord rub, make the lever shorter like a handle, and made the mount a little more seamless to a rack - It would be instant buy for me. Hopefully V2.0 is an improvement.
To each his or her own. However, in my opinion, the best way to do cardio exercise is to do something that you enjoy doing, which includes playing ping pong, basketball, or using a Fitness First medicine ball rebounder. I had a Nordic Track ski exercise machine before. I got rid of it because IMO exercising on a ski machine is boring.
Absolutely. Mountain biking for me. I even bought a fat bike a few years ago so I could bike all winter long. One of my best purchases ever.
some people enjoy the ski erg
I have this and the rope. Was happy to pay the premium price to save what minimal space I have.
I wonder if you could swap those pulley brackets with each other, so the rounded side of them is facing out. That might fix the rubbing issue on the rope without having to cut anything.
Surfers swear by the SkiErg for out of water paddle training. . .Can you pull with 1 arm at a time with the Relentless Ripper?
He did in the video
@garage gym reviews, can you tell me what height rack you have that mounted too? want to know how high the handles would be if mounted to a REP PR5000 93" rack... feels like it could be too low
as someone who works with engineer's, your comment about knowing somethings *would* be nice, but probably can't be done got me rolling lmao.
your comment doesn't make any sense at all
Looks like you can take the pulleys off and reverse them instead of cutting them so the cord doesn't rub! 😊❤
Love the idea of a SkiErg because of the small footprint. But I guess I just think a cardio item that doesn’t use/have resistance for your legs seems weird to me…
The poling is only one part of the cx skiing technique. Most of the work comes from the legs, especially in skating and classic singlepoling.
Review the Ironmaster IM2000 please!
999$, for that I might as well just get the Concept Skierg...
Could two Beyond Power voltras recreate this? I’m considering getting two anyway…
Cool Kettlebells in the back, What are the names of those skull shaped Kettlebells?
Concept 2 cannot be replicated. Duplicated or matched. The value of the concept 2 and the module and the community cannot be beat. I will always stick with the original AUTHENTIC designs- the best are the best for a reason.
Is some Assambly required?
Link for price?
dont think you ever did a review on inspires multigyms like body lift bl1 which i think is great, its way safer than all these freeweight setups of yours. How about doing a few reviews?
Waiting for C2 to do a high wall mount skierg 😅
I have to have it! You can truly skip going to corporate gym all together now!
"How long will it take to rub it off, I don't know. Will it eventually? Absolutely."
The eternal struggle.
Good Lord, the stickers. Everywhere. Whomever was in charge of the stickers was working overtime. Such a shame--it's a nice piece of equipment that looks cheap due to the stickers. A few more stickers and they wouldn't have needed to paint it...
Rack mountable? Okay. Most likely on a horizontal frame. At what height would that horizontal frame need to be to put the handles at 8 feet?
Most likely any power rack at 100” -Rogue’s Monster racks are 90” with optional 100” and 108” uprights. 90” may be a tad short for a few men but perfect for the wifey. I had a C2 Ski Erg, the handles were also a bit too high for my wife. She’s 5’2.
Its a no for me...1) way to expensive compared to concept 2) Paying for a wall mount pisses me off 3) The rubbing of the cord is bad and will cause wear
That price is just STUPID.
Looks cool but is faaaarrrrrrr too expensive to compete.
combine it with the Ropee and Im in
I'll stay with the original C2 erg
This should only cost $400 waiting for titan fitness version
Need bluetooth to track my workout... before I would buy this. You could not give me a cycling trainer or any cardio equipment without Bluetooth
The SkiErg is perfect, and takes up hardly any space, easily mounts on wall, air resistance is perfect.
Not sure what the point of this thing is. Filling a demand that doesn't exist?
competition is always good for the market
@@foldinghomealone Just curious, but what exactly did that have to do with my comment?
@@ChrisP3000x And Im curious whats not to understand about my comment...
@@foldinghomealone Just curious, but what exactly did "competition is always good for the market" have to do with my comment? Thanks!
@@ChrisP3000x Firstly, your question is wrong, because there is demand which the Skierg from CS proves.
Secondly, your comment suggests, that they shouldnt create a product because there is already a very good product available.
Im just saying that it is always good to have alternatives
Concept 2 could easily mimic this by shifting the flywheel to the top surely?
Not gonna buy then when it's more expensive lol
“Doody cycle”
It needs to be a lot cheaper
Over priced
Cant justify this at $1000
First
The only way I would buy this is if it were cheaper than c2.
Looks like you can take the pulleys off and reverse them instead of cutting them so the cord doesn't rub! 😊❤