Wheel of Time: Before the Breaking

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  • @hathosisnilvera5160
    @hathosisnilvera5160 6 лет назад +352

    For those who haven't read the series, keep in mind that a lot of this information is intentionally vague because it happened 3,000 years ago from the start of the first book. Only fragments are known and Robert Jordan was a firm believer in stories and legends changing and becoming more mythological instead of factual over time. The farther one is from the event, either in space or time, the less likely one is to know what actually happened. Hence the references to Mosk and Merk, Lenn and Salya, and the Mercedes emblem being put in a museum (made of some unknown material that is easy to scratch). Meanwhile the current events in the book resemble or modern day myths and legends, for it happened ages ago.
    We are the source of their myths and legends, and they are the source of our myths and legends. Thus the wheel of time turns

    • @nestrior7733
      @nestrior7733 5 лет назад +15

      It's actually even longer. The Age of Legends was three thousand years before the current story. The First Age was even longer ago. Possibly three millennia before the AoL? Maybe even longer? Who knows? The only two people who knew are dead.

    • @killiondace5411
      @killiondace5411 5 лет назад

      Wait is this real ?

    • @AngryGoats555
      @AngryGoats555 5 лет назад +1

      ace killion Yeah...time is a wheel...what has happened before will happen again and so on

    • @erikkr.r.m7380
      @erikkr.r.m7380 4 года назад +2

      if it wasnt vague it wouldnt be cool

    • @jacobitewiseman3696
      @jacobitewiseman3696 4 года назад +1

      This is a made up world.

  • @AngryGoats555
    @AngryGoats555 6 лет назад +165

    I remember when it was first revealed that the AOL was actually a technological wonderland. It blew my freaking mind. I was even more shocked to learn that the first age and the legends told of it were people and events of the late 20th century

    • @leviathan7751
      @leviathan7751 6 лет назад +4

      possibly the 20th century.

    • @AngryGoats555
      @AngryGoats555 6 лет назад +9

      Leviathan 77 some of the events references are from the 20th. The Cold War for instance

    • @wynnefox
      @wynnefox 5 лет назад +2

      @@hagrid1123 Age of Legends

    • @joshuafischer684
      @joshuafischer684 5 лет назад +24

      Lenn, who flew to the moon in an eagle made of fire is John Glenn, the first American in space.
      Matrese, the great healer is Mother Theresa, the... uh.... great healer.
      Elspet, the Queen of All is Queen Elizabeth who ruled over 1/4 of the Earth's land and people.
      Mosk and Merk, the two brother giants who'se lances of fire reached around the world are Moscow (USSR) and 'merica (USA).
      In Tanchico there was a display of things from the time before the AoL which included a giraffe skeleton and a Mercedes-Benz hood ornament.
      Also, I personally think that the "Age before the age of legends" was ended by a nuclear war between the USSR and the USA simply because that is the most recent contemporary thing mentioned as existing. The nuclear war's fallout mutated humans so that they could learn to access the Power and that led to the Age of Legends.

    • @CNNBlackmailSupport
      @CNNBlackmailSupport 5 лет назад +2

      It's just reflections, not actually the 20th century. They didnt fly with gasoline in their technological age. The closest analog is the conqueror of shambala movie for Fullmetal Alchemist. It's more parallel worlds that have some overlap, rather than age 1 is us, age 2 is AOL, age 3 is dark age, etc...
      We have our own age of legends, which is saidar and saidin free. There is just some bleed over in the form of constants, like the dragon, whose blood on the rocks saves them, and Jesus, whose blood saves us.

  • @kanedomican2248
    @kanedomican2248 6 лет назад +109

    More of Wheel of Time Please, love this series!

  • @levikolevy
    @levikolevy 6 лет назад +111

    I love it when a channel does lore on worlds that I know little about or never even heard of in the first place.
    I'm getting tired of all these elder scrolls and star wars lore channels.

    • @darKILLusionnn
      @darKILLusionnn 6 лет назад +8

      Don't forget those Game of Thrones lore channels...

    • @levikolevy
      @levikolevy 6 лет назад

      Arutemisu yea there's to many of all showing the same thing.

    • @scottmialltablet
      @scottmialltablet 6 лет назад +12

      Word of warning - if you decide to read the Wheel of Time, be ready for 5-8 books in the middle of the series being essentially useless filler.
      I'm not recommending that you NOT read the books. Just a warning that from book 5 to book 12 (you won't know where you fall on that spectrum until you've read them all), you will have to work at reading them because it's a hell of a lot of stuff that is essentially filler - nice to have stuff, but... a slog to get through. Hopefully someone will do an edit on the books and turn them into 3 sets of 4 books - on for Mat, one for Perrin, one for Rand and one for the World at large.

    • @ryanoconnor5176
      @ryanoconnor5176 6 лет назад

      I agree Star Wars and elder scrolls lore is getting old

    • @jcrestonm
      @jcrestonm 5 лет назад +2

      Book 10 was the only book that really didn't need to be written. Some of the books from 7-11 moved much slower but only Crossroads of Twilight was a "below average" book.

  • @robbybains1622
    @robbybains1622 3 года назад +19

    The WOT trailer just released today. Hopefully this series and video starts to get more views. Keep up the good work.

  • @mykeusgaming1510
    @mykeusgaming1510 6 лет назад +40

    One of the best book series ever

  • @brpaoli
    @brpaoli 6 лет назад +38

    OMG I CAN"T BELIEVE THAT YOU STARTED A WHEEL OF TIME SERIES!! NIIIIICE

  • @ProfitYoEL
    @ProfitYoEL 6 лет назад +31

    So glad you did this. Just finished the series. Soooo awesome!

  • @josephmort4039
    @josephmort4039 6 лет назад +203

    SSSHHH!! Do not use the Dark One's true name! What's the matter with you?!

    • @JackoTJK
      @JackoTJK 6 лет назад +13

      Everytime he says it the world seems to lurch

    • @CNNBlackmailSupport
      @CNNBlackmailSupport 5 лет назад +9

      You ever wonder if the dark one waits for his name to be spoken and then it turns out to be a different word?
      Like "look out! That tree is falling! Oh Shaiiit. Shite."
      (Disappointed sigh from Shai'tan)
      "Almost, human. Almost."
      Or what if the dark one isnt listening?
      He must have to listen to some things because he would know all the plans of everyone if he just heard the whole world at the same time.
      What if two people said his name at the same time, but they were 40 miles apart? Would he hear the one closest to the bore? Would he hear both but the speed of sound would make one heard first? Would the first one he hears get a big jolt and the next one get a smaller one because he spent his energy cursing the first one?
      What if 300 people just yelled Shai'tan over and over for a few days? Would he start taking less and less notice until he just quit bothering to curse people back for using his name?
      What if during a battle, you struck while a few infiltrators said his name behind enemy lines, causing the area to shake and disrupt the enemy defenses?
      So many questions...

    • @CNNBlackmailSupport
      @CNNBlackmailSupport 5 лет назад +1

      You ever wonder if the dark one waits for his name to be spoken and then it turns out to be a different word?
      Like "look out! That tree is falling! Oh Shaiiit. Shite."
      (Disappointed sigh from Shai'tan)
      "Almost, human. Almost."
      Or what if the dark one isnt listening?
      He must have to listen to some things because he would know all the plans of everyone if he just heard the whole world at the same time.
      What if two people said his name at the same time, but they were 40 miles apart? Would he hear the one closest to the bore? Would he hear both but the speed of sound would make one heard first? Would the first one he hears get a big jolt and the next one get a smaller one because he spent his energy cursing the first one?
      What if 300 people just yelled Shai'tan over and over for a few days? Would he start taking less and less notice until he just quit bothering to curse people back for using his name?
      What if during a battle, you struck while a few infiltrators said his name behind enemy lines, causing the area to shake and disrupt the enemy defenses?
      So many questions...

    • @dev7615
      @dev7615 5 лет назад +4

      SHAITAN THE GREAT LORD OF THE DARK LET THE LORD OF CHAOS RULE

    • @eskikanal6325
      @eskikanal6325 4 года назад +1

      Joseph Mort shai-tan .-.

  • @s7e8s6
    @s7e8s6 6 лет назад +7

    This is by far the best story ever created. So much detail, how can anyone get bored of this story.👍

  • @MasterMahan-qm8hu
    @MasterMahan-qm8hu 6 лет назад +42

    Very good, one of my favorite book series! Looking forward to more, Cheers

  • @kristopherbarker3282
    @kristopherbarker3282 5 лет назад +3

    I saw this video in my notifications last year, and thought I'd see what it's about. I have grown to love this series. I thank you, because I would not have found this great series without you.

  • @user-ls1ep7qq4n
    @user-ls1ep7qq4n 6 лет назад +2

    Good job. I first read this series in '96 and have reread it twice since. RIP, RJ.

  • @daemonblackfyre3238
    @daemonblackfyre3238 6 лет назад +44

    "I am the Son of the Morning. I am the Dragon Reborn." Lews Therin Telamon/Rand al'Thor

    • @beageler
      @beageler 6 лет назад +5

      "If I fail, the world dies. There is no one else..." -The Dragon

    • @joshuafischer684
      @joshuafischer684 5 лет назад +8

      @@beageler Not the Son of the Morning but the Lord of the Morning.
      Let The Dragon ride again on the winds of Time.

    • @beageler
      @beageler 5 лет назад

      Nöl gefälligst den richtigen an.

  • @Thebees21
    @Thebees21 6 лет назад +21

    Please do more Wheel of Time stuff if you wouldn't mind! I absolutely love this video and the WoT series.

  • @clutch1141
    @clutch1141 6 лет назад +1

    Oh Robert Jordan... You crazy writer of one the best stories in all of human history...

  • @vipset87
    @vipset87 6 лет назад +6

    this is amazing. thank you so much for this. im about to be on the 6th book but i still didnt really quite grasp all of this through reading on my own for some reason. there are some things that flew over my head. this video is so incredibly helpful in giving me a better understanding of the series. i have a few friends that are gettin into fantasy who ask for suggestions and when they ask me what this series is about, its difficult for me to truly explain. im gonna send them all this video even tho it doesnt touch on rand or the other characters but more importantly it doesnt spoil anything and gives the basis for what u should know before jumping into the adventure of the 3rd age

  • @krichardj
    @krichardj 6 лет назад +12

    Incredible! The Wheel of Time Series tells this in between about nine thousand pages. Nice job.

  • @beageler
    @beageler 6 лет назад +31

    Great, but one thing makes it impossible to use it as an intro for new readers: One of the strongest scenes in the series is spoiled. I was shaking with excitement when I read: "You were always so full of thoughts, Elan. Your own logic destroyed you, didn't it?"

    • @antihermes
      @antihermes 6 лет назад

      Dammit I just started reading them. I shouldn't have watched this. I read slowly so maybe i'll forget this before I get to it.

    • @JackoTJK
      @JackoTJK 6 лет назад +2

      It's honestly a bit of a spoiler. If you don't know all the forsaken true names it's all the more exciting and jarring when they are revealed! There's also so cool stuff in Rhuidean that may be wrecked a little by watching this...

    • @tiffanywyatt5137
      @tiffanywyatt5137 Год назад

      What

  • @notjosh4856
    @notjosh4856 4 года назад +2

    i read the whole series over 20 years ago. i cant believe i still remember all the details.

    • @TheRealMike1976
      @TheRealMike1976 3 года назад +3

      It only finished 7 years ago.

    • @garlandking1382
      @garlandking1382 3 года назад

      Sadly it will never be properly finished, amiright my friends??

  • @russs904
    @russs904 3 года назад +1

    This video should be Bumped up, a lot of people would find this super helpful

  • @crazydrummer99999
    @crazydrummer99999 6 лет назад +1

    So glad you started covering the Wheel of Time series.

  • @Alysinwowland
    @Alysinwowland 6 лет назад +8

    I love it! Please do more on the Forsaken, Artur Hawkwing, the Aiel wars and the kingdoms in the Third age😍

  • @JRyomaru
    @JRyomaru 3 года назад +2

    Well I got to thank you, I am composing a codex for an Age of Legends D&D campaign and this video was a massive help in validating my notes!

  • @arte0021
    @arte0021 6 лет назад +3

    nice that he is doing the Wheel of Time now. i really liked his LOTR videos.

  • @emphase6
    @emphase6 6 лет назад +1

    I'm on Book 2 right now, and this video was a great filler of knowledge, thank you!

  • @beckymartin1810
    @beckymartin1810 2 года назад +2

    Thank you, this was very helpful!

  • @thatcreole9913
    @thatcreole9913 5 лет назад +2

    This is incredibly well done.

  • @carolbriscoe9337
    @carolbriscoe9337 2 года назад +1

    The only thing I hate about the Wheel,is that humanity dies seem doomed to constantly repeat their mistakes from the first 2 ages. It's a treadmill, over and over without end

    • @WipesHandsOnPants
      @WipesHandsOnPants Год назад +2

      I feel like I've heard this complaint before somewhere...

  • @Fenris77
    @Fenris77 2 года назад +4

    3:58 Were those Stargates?
    Remembering reading the books when this lore was revealed and I was blown away by it.

    • @kyle18934
      @kyle18934 2 года назад +2

      it might have had inspiration from stargates.
      i always thought of them as a stone platform that you didnt walk through, more you had to be close to it.

  • @CaesarAugustus.
    @CaesarAugustus. 2 года назад +2

    As someone who’s only watched the show, this explains sooo much.

  • @CivilizationEx
    @CivilizationEx  6 лет назад +15

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  • @QueenDaenerysTargaryen
    @QueenDaenerysTargaryen 3 года назад +3

    Wheel of time?
    I'm not going to stop the wheel... I'm going to break the wheel.
    💥🔥🐉🐲🐉🔥💥

  • @QueenIsis13
    @QueenIsis13 3 года назад

    Wow amazing video!! Listening to the audiobooks now for the first time! I am loving this story so far.

  • @hinglemccringleberry7837
    @hinglemccringleberry7837 6 лет назад +1

    Just started reading the first book and I didn’t really understand it but after watch this it’s much more understandable

  • @merai4024
    @merai4024 3 года назад

    Incredible video! Thank you very much!

  • @Dragonjd2187
    @Dragonjd2187 5 лет назад

    I want to watch these, but I just started the series, I’ll check them out after I’m done reading the wheel of time.

  • @davidsandlin9686
    @davidsandlin9686 6 лет назад +8

    Plot twist. The dark one is the creator. He just went insane while trapped and started to destroy what he had created. He was so powerful that he knew he would lose it and created tools (hero’s of the horn, taveran etc) to insure he could not destroy his own creation. When he injected good into the pattern he gave too much and his dark side became dominate. Think about it.

    • @athomenotavailable
      @athomenotavailable 5 лет назад +1

      Meh, that would directly conflict with the Creator's voice in book 1

    • @davidsandlin9686
      @davidsandlin9686 4 года назад

      Vox Populi what evidence disproves that?

  • @tessierashpoolmg7776
    @tessierashpoolmg7776 6 лет назад +3

    Wonderful piece of work! How about following up with a bit about the Seanchen or more about the Forsaken as they were in the third age? I just discovered this channel and am anxious to see your bit on Gandalf and Moraine, what a wonderfully imaginative topic!

    • @CivilizationEx
      @CivilizationEx  6 лет назад +1

      Thank you! I'm thinking about the Trolloc Wars for my next one, which will likely be next month, but haven't decided yet, I'll keep your suggestions in mind.

  • @mlang28
    @mlang28 2 года назад +1

    Awesome find..after watching the Amazon series

  • @frostwitch7234
    @frostwitch7234 6 лет назад +22

    The Dark One's counterstroke was not by accident. The one power (not speaking the true source) was meant to be used by both men and women together. Male and female Aes Sedia. The tainting of the male half crippled the Aes Sedai, and created generations of hate, and disbelief. A man who uses the one power is destined to go mad, leading up to the red Ajah's witch hunts against the "false dragons" Here's what I have to say about the red ajah. Liandrin. Enough said. Are all reds Black ajah? Or are they just simply anti-male? Maybe they're just doing what they can to keep the people safe. I beliee the Aes Sedai forgot their purpose. To serve. To quote el'Nynaeve ti al'Meara Mandragoran "I do not have to make sense. I help others because it is what one does" Any wonder she's yellow Ajah?

    • @julienwood577
      @julienwood577 2 года назад +1

      If there was women with Lews therin Telamon and the 100 companions when they sealed the prison then saidar would have been tainted as well.

    • @bloodmachinebutbloodier
      @bloodmachinebutbloodier Год назад

      @@julienwood577 concord's fault

    • @bloodmachinebutbloodier
      @bloodmachinebutbloodier Год назад

      @@julienwood577 no both halves working together would sheild them from the dark one's taint

  • @Sorero
    @Sorero 2 года назад

    Thanks for this summary

  • @keith_dixon
    @keith_dixon 4 года назад

    It sounds like you're just making all this shit up. Respect. Great primer for those looking forward to the series.

  • @yourmom-kd5fo
    @yourmom-kd5fo 6 лет назад +4

    OMG so many other fans of the wheel of time series

  • @stevewright6632
    @stevewright6632 6 лет назад +12

    Do a video on The Aiel

  • @alanawrisley2860
    @alanawrisley2860 5 лет назад +20

    The release of the dark one sounds just like CERN

    • @ethanclark640
      @ethanclark640 Год назад

      literally lmao i found that out while finishing a memory of light a few days ago

  • @bunnyontherocks
    @bunnyontherocks 6 лет назад +26

    OMG, I clicked on this so fast! I'm on book 5 or 6 and had to stop due to work, but gonna finish the series! Thank you. :3
    Btw I heard a show might be in the making? I hope HBO takes it so we get some good stuff. :)

    • @diyakhalil2686
      @diyakhalil2686 6 лет назад +1

      Bunnyontherocks books slow down a bit between 7 and 10 but they pick up big time after that. Try the audiobooks

    • @nikolay4101-s7r
      @nikolay4101-s7r 6 лет назад +1

      Sony is taking it

    • @captainwilhelm9657
      @captainwilhelm9657 6 лет назад

      HBO is focusing on Game of Thrones and it's one or two spin-off series so they won't touch Wheel of Time. Sony is the company who has the rights but where the series will air is unknown.

    • @Handlehandleistaken
      @Handlehandleistaken 6 лет назад +1

      you also don't want them to take it or they will make you pay a crap ton of money to watch it.

    • @spliff0289
      @spliff0289 6 лет назад

      Sony got the show

  • @clumsyturtle8544
    @clumsyturtle8544 4 года назад +3

    So why didn't the Saidar help the Saidin to seal the dark one after their plan failed? They could of stopped the Saidin from getting the taint? Or maybe it was a lucky escape not to get tainted as well?
    I'm like 12 chapters from finishing The Eye Of The World so I'm sure I will get answers later on in this 15 book series, I'm looking forward to it.

    • @Typexviiib
      @Typexviiib 4 года назад +3

      The books go into more detail. Basically there was a conflict within the aes sedai over how to fix the issue and when. The woman that opposed lews therin's plan got all the female aes sedai to refuse to help, only 100 male aes sedai were willing to help lews therin. Its hinted that possibly saidar would have been tainted too, but there seems to be some small disagreement over if that would have happened.

  • @PRIMAL_HUNTER1988
    @PRIMAL_HUNTER1988 5 лет назад +1

    How Zeus miss you with that thunderbolt man you must be the Beyonder

  • @Allan_aka_RocKITEman
    @Allan_aka_RocKITEman 5 лет назад +2

    FWIW: When I first read the description of that "3 pointed star" several years ago, I *wondered* is that what was being described....

  • @justintime2694
    @justintime2694 6 лет назад +8

    Good video, I wouldnt mind seeing more wot content.

  • @meadoebarlow243
    @meadoebarlow243 4 года назад +4

    Love how they illustrate the dark one

  • @morintedronai8433
    @morintedronai8433 6 лет назад +2

    Where can i find the music you used on this video? It's epic.

  • @daughsonperkins4342
    @daughsonperkins4342 6 лет назад +2

    Yess love this series!!!

  • @saraforney3940
    @saraforney3940 4 года назад +1

    What should I read after GoT, WoT, & kingkiller chrinicles?

    • @CivilizationEx
      @CivilizationEx  4 года назад +1

      The Witcher series, Dagger and Coin series, and the Cosmere Universe are my suggestions :)

  • @jepoicapati7381
    @jepoicapati7381 6 лет назад +113

    it pains me to hear the word "magic". Somehow it doesn't fit.

  • @reviewman
    @reviewman 3 года назад +2

    I wonder if you could do the cosmre ar some point

    • @CivilizationEx
      @CivilizationEx  3 года назад +1

      I likely will at some point, just not sure when.

  • @IamAWESOME3980
    @IamAWESOME3980 2 года назад +1

    So…. What age is the dinosaurs?

  • @monsouranda2822
    @monsouranda2822 6 лет назад +2

    Are all this info can be read on "Crossroad of twilight"?

  • @Rajneesh102679
    @Rajneesh102679 6 лет назад +1

    Did you pull this from the books or other guides? It is very well put together.

    • @spliff0289
      @spliff0289 6 лет назад

      Rajneesh Chellapilla A lot of this comes from books 4 and 12

  • @mercurialsilver5688
    @mercurialsilver5688 5 лет назад +5

    So a lasting progress was impossible? That was always a depressing part of the series.

  • @sebastien160
    @sebastien160 6 лет назад +1

    Bravo this was great

  • @SwipeSide19
    @SwipeSide19 5 лет назад +1

    Does this have spoilers on the books?
    Just checking I am about halfway through book 1 :)

    • @CivilizationEx
      @CivilizationEx  5 лет назад

      There are no story spoilers but there are history spoilers, stuff from the past that is revealed in later books.

  • @brettpetty7840
    @brettpetty7840 2 года назад +1

    Im 1/4th of the way through book 7 can someone tell me if watching this video will spoil anything major in the remaining books? I want to watch but don't want to ruin anything

    • @CivilizationEx
      @CivilizationEx  2 года назад +1

      This video doesnt have major story spoilers but it does contain historical info that is revealed throughout the series, some of which is tied to events near the end of the series.

    • @brettpetty7840
      @brettpetty7840 Год назад

      @@CivilizationEx Just finished memory of light earlier today and found myself back on this video lol this is all such good info alot of it I didn't pick up on in the books

  • @andy420bb
    @andy420bb 6 лет назад +13

    Do the conquest of Artur hawking

  • @jessejaimyhecker3350
    @jessejaimyhecker3350 5 лет назад

    I love these video's and I love your voice !!

  • @douglasbernal3033
    @douglasbernal3033 6 лет назад +2

    what..this came out on my birthday and i missed it.. what... hype hype hype. hopefully show will be better than GoT.

  • @WipesHandsOnPants
    @WipesHandsOnPants Год назад

    One thing: correct me if I'm wrong but I didn't think it's stated that the Dark One came into being at the same time as the Wheel, only that he was sealed at the moment of creation. I thought the Dark One was primordial as he is said to be the "antithesis" of the Creator, thus also not created. This of course tells us nothing about who or even what either of these entities is, or why they exist in the first place. If I'm wrong about that and there is a quote that the Dark One came into being (rather than just being sealed) at the moment of creation, please do reply with it.
    The metaphysics of the Wheel world have never made any sense to me. Maybe not just to me? 1) If the Dark One is only able to touch the pattern once the Bore is opened, and our age is before the age of legends, why do people in our age do evil shit? Shai'tan doesn't need to try so hard, we seem to be doing a fine job of being evil all on our own! 2) Some say the Dark One is not a spirit of evil then, but of destruction, yet at many instances he chooses less destructive paths than he could have. Also, the Dark One clearly has at least some aspects of a personality. He is a bit of a drama queen and is easily upset with people when they don't do what he wants. But what IS he?
    The series just punts on this question, leaving too many contradictory concepts competing for the empty space. Is he really the Creator's antithesis? If so how could be imprisoned? Is the prison within or without the Pattern? The books say it's outside, repeatedly, but Lanfear bored into it from within. That means it's directly adjacent - that sounds more like the prison is MADE OF the Pattern. Which is it? It's honestly maddening that such a baffling character as the Dark One should not be given a backstory or a setting. Sure, he is the essence of evil in Rand's universe, but why does that have to stop him from having an identity in whatever realm of reality he resides? I'm frustrated that we were never given any insight into what kind of reality, if any, the Dark One experiences. How does he (would "it" truly be more appropriate?) perceive himself? Is he called the Dark One because he is bad, or because he is without self-knowledge? Is that his plight?! See, we are never allowed to learn what he is, we are only allowed to see what the people of the pattern perceive him to be. For all we know, in the dimension where the Dark One exists he is a black Labrador, chewing up the Creator's blanket while the latter is away at work. In the absolute void Jordan provides us in terms of metaphysical satisfaction, this narrative is as likely as any, and I find that disappointing.

  • @Tymuel
    @Tymuel 6 лет назад +2

    Very interesting that the female Aes Sedai did not supported the Dragon. I do not remember that... Guess it is time that I read the series again. Greeting from germany

    • @edwardsimpson119
      @edwardsimpson119 4 года назад

      I can't help but wonder if maybe that was the Pattern protecting itself. Lews Therin's plan required touching the Dark One with the One Power, if the female Aes Sedai participated and it was a combined flow of both saidin and saidir that touched the Dark One, would the Dark One have been able to taint both sides of the One Power? With no female Aes Sedai present to channel saidir, one half of the One Power was kept away from the Dark One's corrupting touch, allowing a group of channelers to continue on, preserving knowledge about the One Power on down to the end of the Third Age when the Dragon would be reborn.

    • @khadheejamazeena6517
      @khadheejamazeena6517 Год назад

      ​@@edwardsimpson119it was implied that saidar would also be tainted

  • @dragonworksgaming
    @dragonworksgaming 6 лет назад

    absolutely amazing summary great job m8

  • @blobfish_plays6548
    @blobfish_plays6548 5 лет назад +2

    Is the dark one just a scribble with a red marker?

    • @WipesHandsOnPants
      @WipesHandsOnPants Год назад

      ^As good an explanation as two bestselling authors provided

  • @lenox4166
    @lenox4166 6 лет назад +9

    Do series on Malazan

    • @saraforney3940
      @saraforney3940 4 года назад +1

      Mykar is it really worth reading? Is it better than WoT?

  • @lucasxPPPP
    @lucasxPPPP 6 лет назад +1

    Que ícone. Bem explicado! Cadê os BRs?!

  • @Ritercrazy
    @Ritercrazy 5 лет назад

    Fantastic.

  • @christossymA3A2
    @christossymA3A2 6 лет назад +2

    Haven't read them , but i intend to do so . Is this video very spoilery ? Should i watch it ?

    • @CivilizationEx
      @CivilizationEx  6 лет назад +9

      This video has no story spoilers from the books, but it does have history spoilers about the past of the world and how magic works.

    • @beageler
      @beageler 6 лет назад

      Naah, this video is backstory that gets revealed quite quickly in the books. It might lessen the impact of the revelations, and one of those scenes is one of the strongest in the entire series. But mostly it is just a bit surprise and wonder at the world that you will loose.

    • @spliff0289
      @spliff0289 6 лет назад

      This won't spoil anything. If anything it will help you to understand the books more

    • @beageler
      @beageler 6 лет назад

      Nah, it's way to sparse for that. And I'm obviously talking about new people, and seeing as the strong points of the series are great characters and their deeds, and a ton of background in the margins, spoiling of great scenes is not what newbies need.

  • @Thanks_Biden
    @Thanks_Biden 6 лет назад +1

    When will you release more videos on this series? My brother in law loves this series, but I just don't have time to read these books.

    • @CivilizationEx
      @CivilizationEx  6 лет назад

      +kevin licht the next WoT vid will be in March

    • @HandspunTreasures
      @HandspunTreasures 6 лет назад

      If you don’t have time to read the books yourself, I highly recommend listening to them instead. Michael Kramer and Kate Reading do an amazing job.

  • @benclarke8014
    @benclarke8014 6 лет назад +8

    Only realised this wasn't LOTR 4 minutes in, was thouroughly confused

  • @MrThystleblum1
    @MrThystleblum1 5 лет назад

    The apostrophe in ta'veren indicates that the inflection is on the first syllable.
    Tah-vee-ren

  • @mariadocarmosobreira8323
    @mariadocarmosobreira8323 2 года назад +4

    My problem is that, in the story, "the universe" is just Earth. That's OK for the purposes of the story, but I find it very shortsighted for today. I do hope that people who write fantasy in the future eschew religious nonsense and embrace the unimaginable vastness of the universe, instead of limiting the whole of reality to our tiny little planet.
    The story is somewhat fun to read, but it's limited and small in a way Tolkien's work is not (from which it copies so much...)

  • @brianvalero6272
    @brianvalero6272 Год назад

    Amazon would have been better served by creating a series based on the age of legends. What they did with WOT is almost unforgivable.

    • @WipesHandsOnPants
      @WipesHandsOnPants Год назад

      Almost? It's horrible, because this our chance. We're not going to get any more video content in the WoT after this, not unless someone resurrects it decades later or something. Who knows if the fandom will even endure that long. UNFORGIVABLE!

  • @Matakshaman
    @Matakshaman 3 года назад +2

    Lews Therin Telamon = Ainz Ooal Gown

  • @johnargus9081
    @johnargus9081 2 года назад +4

    One of the sad things about the series is they don't go into any of this.
    They just say 'men' destroyed the world in their arrogance.

  • @crossfire7474
    @crossfire7474 6 лет назад +3

    Is the book good?

    • @captainwilhelm9657
      @captainwilhelm9657 6 лет назад +6

      Yes the books are pretty good.

    • @CapitalMort
      @CapitalMort 6 лет назад +1

      I really enjoyed them. There's a lot to read though, it makes lord of the rings look like a short story.

    • @SaintLeviathan
      @SaintLeviathan 6 лет назад +1

      best books i've ever read, the ending is the most epic ending ever!

    • @HamCubes
      @HamCubes 6 лет назад

      I love the Wheel of Time series. As long as you skip the chapters that include Nynaeve and her endless braid-pulling you will likely enjoy them too. 🎲 🎀 😜🎲

    • @spliff0289
      @spliff0289 6 лет назад

      It's definitely worth a read

  • @michaelokeke4976
    @michaelokeke4976 3 года назад

    Who else is hear after hearing that a new “Age of Legends” film trilogy is in the works?

  • @TheErick1116
    @TheErick1116 2 года назад

    Is there spoiler for 10 and up bc I’m on 10 ?

  • @timmyebert3880
    @timmyebert3880 5 лет назад

    Hey do you draw all the pics on the video

  • @nikmede
    @nikmede 5 лет назад +1

    How much does this spoil the books?

    • @CivilizationEx
      @CivilizationEx  5 лет назад +1

      No story spoilers but there are history spoilers, as in stuff that will be revealed later in the books about the history of the world and its people.

  • @wilagaton9627
    @wilagaton9627 6 лет назад +4

    Wheel of time 😍😍😍

  • @kaloyanradkov8962
    @kaloyanradkov8962 2 года назад

    what happened in the other 5 ages ? (3 to 7)

  • @abbymckelvie8017
    @abbymckelvie8017 6 лет назад

    Loved this!! More WoT pleassse!

  • @Mncat30
    @Mncat30 6 лет назад

    Anybody ever play Wheel of Time PC Game? Very cool at the time...they should make a new one.

  • @aserioussalamander9475
    @aserioussalamander9475 3 года назад

    Whats the motivation of the dark one?

  • @user-ne6vq6pl3c
    @user-ne6vq6pl3c 2 года назад

    So the creator used the true source to create the wheel and the world yet the magic of the dark one is also the true source. Or am I missing something?

    • @user-ne6vq6pl3c
      @user-ne6vq6pl3c 2 года назад

      Err true source/power are interchangeable or different? It's a bit confusing for some of us that haven't read the books yet..

    • @CivilizationEx
      @CivilizationEx  2 года назад +1

      @@user-ne6vq6pl3c They are different. The Dark One uses the True Power, which was the energy imprisoned outside the Wheel. The Wheel itself uses the True Source to turn, and that's where magic comes from.

    • @user-ne6vq6pl3c
      @user-ne6vq6pl3c 2 года назад +1

      Thank you, I hadn't realized there was the sources and powers. True source/true power, one source/one power. If I understand correctly now anyways. I'm only to chapter 9 in the first book. Thank you for the quick response though, definitely helps to understand the lore and world when reading

  • @johnlesis720
    @johnlesis720 6 лет назад +3

    How about making more WoT videos?

  • @JackoTJK
    @JackoTJK 6 лет назад

    Perfect!

  • @jamiepeterson5843
    @jamiepeterson5843 3 года назад +1

    I wonder if Robert Jordan was trying to create a myth like lord of the rings about the biblical creation. Just makes me think.

  • @erikkr.r.m7380
    @erikkr.r.m7380 4 года назад

    I wish there was a WOT lore channel

    • @Andy2kk
      @Andy2kk 4 года назад +1

      Daniel Greene

  • @timmyebert3880
    @timmyebert3880 5 лет назад

    i have never read this book is it good

  • @anonymouslyopinionated656
    @anonymouslyopinionated656 2 года назад +1

    Better than the Amazon shit-show.

  • @davefryer4530
    @davefryer4530 3 года назад

    I still want to know if Beidomon was one of the forsaken or if he was killed when the Sharon was destroyed

    • @matthewhelland9258
      @matthewhelland9258 2 года назад +1

      He survived the destruction of the Sharom, but was horrified at what he and Mierin had unleashed. He tried to be forgotten, but was too well known, and he committed suicide sometime before the breaking.