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Nuclear energy's true cost hidden by Australian ban: Will Shackel
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- Опубликовано: 18 сен 2023
- Nuclear for Australia's Will Shackel says critics of nuclear energy "can't understand" the cost of it until the ban is lifted.
He argues that the government's justification for the ban based on costs is inconsistent, pointing out that if expenses were the main concern, solar panels and Snowy Hydro would have been banned in the past.
Shackel also notes that even Tesla would face bans by such logic.
"It just makes no sense to me," Will Shackel told Sky News host Chris Kenny.
"I think if the government wants to work out the economics of nuclear energy, the first thing they have to do is to lift the ban."
A 17 yr just proved how un-serious and low quality Australian politicians are.
A 17 year old school boy educating the people who are supposedly running our country (more like running it into the ground!), these politicians should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves. Thank you Will, more power to you mate.
He is a kid, what does he know? Sorry but Bowen has a number of experts that have the proper expertise. This kid is some two-timer who thinks he is so smart yet he is just bull of BS. Why is even given a platform? What a joke. You obviously have an even more simple mind than him. Easy to entertain folks with low IQ.
Don't get excited. They won't be Listening to Him.
Goodonya Will.
I am VERY IMPRESSED with, Very PROUD of you Young fella.
Please keep up the good work. All the best in the future.
Regards, Darryl.
Everything's not lost when we have smart young people like this young man, not all youngsters have been completely brainwashed; we have hope on the horizon.
Yes govt thinks they are dumb its easy to deal with dumb people more youngsters need to wake up to things happening around them.
Bowen put in his place by a 17 year old, made my night😊
What an incredible young man. His parents must be so proud of him. All you need to do is to follow the money which is more then likely going directly into the politicians and experts pockets. The answers are always found when you follow the money.
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Corruption is the evil in this country
What a top lad! Gives me hope. Incidentally, vote NO to the Voice.
Stupid Bowen was brought undone by a 17 year old. Well done Will Shackel.
Bowen could be undone by a monkey
Bowen is just like a mother joe Biden not even smart 😊
You know your politicians and bureaucrats are a massive joke when a well educated young fella has more of a clear and concise argument on such a subject and cause the same said politicians and bureaucrats to look like absolute fools. Good on you Will. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
I think it's one of the first time I have heard an intelligent conversation there might be still a chance to get it right good onya Yung man😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
@@anthonyholder1786 that young fella has more brains in his toe than most politicians and bureaucrats have combined. He really does give me hope for the future.
Bowen smashed it .
When he was allowed to talk on the Sky 2 channel.
It's incredible that all the media has been taken over by the right.
@@gore1089😂bowen couldn't smash a rotten tomato, he has more chins than a chinese phone book
@@infidel202
He killed it.
The kid they planted was supposed to out shine Bowen, but The QnA ( ABC/ SKY channel coalition ) backfired 🐥👍
What a brilliant 17 year old. I just watched his Q&A and he really put Bowen in his place. We need to go Nuclear Power.
The cost of Nuclear is minimal compared to the destruction of 1 Million Hectares of land needed for turbines and transmission lines.
The wholesale environmental degradation of Australian bushland and wildlife habitats is a criminal act.
It's also minimal in comparison to the environmental degradation caused by burning fossil fuels.
The carbon dioxide emissions from fossil fuels are actually beneficial. Benefits include greening of the planet with increased agricultural yields (main effect) reduced winter heating costs and fewer deaths from hypothermia.
I agree with you about wind turbines, however there are other shelved alternatives besides wind and solar.
Very impressed by Will Shackel and his message.
Meanwhile, Bowen is stuck in the 1980's with his negative spin about Nuclear.
Bowen needs to go back to school to get areal education.
He is a kid, what does he know? Sorry but Bowen has a number of experts that have the proper expertise. This kid is some two-timer who thinks he is so smart yet he is just bull of BS. Why is even given a platform? What a joke. You obviously have an even more simple mind than him. Easy to entertain folks with low IQ.
@davidhodder4479Exactly right, David.
They are worried about the Greens taking their seat.😅
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It is nuclear that is stuck in the 1980's. It is going nowhere. Nuclear power plants generated less power last year than they did 2 decades ago.
Smart kid.
If albo had a brain he would get rid of Bowen and hire this kid.
But Albo has no brain, only a big mouth to put his foot in.
Albo hasn’t got a brain so rule this out
Spears should have known the answer to the question before he asked it and then demanded an answer, you cannot know the cost until the moratorium is lifted on nuclear energy in Australia
Very smart young man, he has a very big future ahead of him. Well said mate
Great to see our youth speaking truth...rather than watching greta
Sweden is different from Australia
And most swedes disagree with her
This is the story of your enslavement by the corrupt culture which is doomed to collapse 👉The Connections (2021) [short documentary] 💖
Young man has great energy and speaks plain facts, unfortunately he hasn’t been exposed to the dark side of politics . That’s why he doesn’t understand.
I say dump all the idiots like Bowen and let this young bloke run the show, completely uncorrupted.
Just highlights how dumb our so call leaders are. Top marks Will
Nuclear power is by FAR the best alternative right now. It's not even close.
This is the story of your enslavement by the corrupt culture which is doomed to collapse 👉The Connections (2021) [short documentary] 💖
I agree that it's much better than coal or natural gas, since it doesn't produce carbon emissions.
No one is discussing gravity amplifiers…it’s better than anything else.
A gravity generator works by using movable weights that are impelled from a resting position to an extended position as the wheel rotates, causing rotation and generating electrical power.
This young guy is making more sense than any politician I've heard all year.
Let common sense prevail.
What a great young man! Australia has hope....lifting the ban costs nothing. We have plenty of desert to put the waste
except for ground water, the artesian basin for example is in a desert. better to dump it at sea
almost 96% of the spent fuel used in nuclear reactors for power generation or research purposes can be recycled. Nuclear material is recoverable to make new fuels that will in turn generate their own electricity.
@JuanVasquez-zz1mx are you assuming his sexual orientation? The only people i see that show an attitude of hatred or intolerance toward members of a particular group are lefties!
He had nothing as I suspected. Bowen killed it.
While lifting the ban does cost nothing the Libs never did it in 9 years of government. They're only interested now because they're in opposition.
$380 Billion is Too Much for Nuclear, but 1.3 Trillion is OK for Blowins, Renewables ?
The “renewable equipment “ also depreciates more rapidly and has higher overall maintenance costs.
The whole basis of Net Zero is false. The carbon dioxide emissions from fossil fuels are actually beneficial. Benefits include increased agricultural yields (main effect) reduced winter heating costs and fewer deaths from hypothermia.
Can you please cite the reference for the $1.3 trillion claim. Thanks.
@@pwillis1589oh perhaps the CSIRO or Renewables Australia. $1300-$1500 billion by 2030 then several trillion more by 2060…. Makes nuclear energy look like the bargain it is 😂
@@polarbear7255 Which particular document? Thanks.
@@polarbear7255 You need context. Anyone can say the government of Australia regularly spends $600 billion a year, which it does. So what!
Talk about cutting through the political BS. Well done Will.👍🇦🇺
This kid has more sense than the whole ALP Front Bench together!
That’s not real difficult….
He only needs to be able to tie his laces to achieve that goal
Michael Shellenberger and Alex Epstein have spoken about this at length: nuclear has been artificially inflated in price due to layers or bureacracy and anti-nuclear policy. Nuclear is the silver-bullet solution to our current-and future energy challenges. It makes ‘renewables’ look ridiculous and childish by comparison.
So you are perfectly happy with potentially one of the most poisonous substances known to us, being used to power your home only 500 meters away without any public regulation. Have you any idea of the potential for weaponisation.
What does a private trucking company do every time it needs to cuts costs? It cuts its maintenance and safety, and another truck slaughters a family in a car accident. You don’t have much of an idea about how industry works.
Decouple Media in Canada is presented by a doctor, one of a group of medicos concerned about their children's future with climate change and strongly in favour of nuclear power.
@@chrisruss9861 I have no issues with the safety or reliability of nuclear power as long as it is well regulated, and regulation costs. Nuclear energy is safe and reliable if well regulated but will not be cheap.
@@pwillis1589 At present coal mines, wind and solar farms and pumped hydro are so tragically wrecking the natural environment the public should take a mature look at nuclear and how it can be safely managed.
@@pwillis1589 Yet you are willing to use Chinese made solar/wind that can also be weaponised and most probably already is.
Last time I looked most power stations were not 500meters away from public housing and the Nuclear Plants can be constructed on those existing sites(so again you simply peddle ignorant fear). How does France manage it, how did Germany manage it for many years with OLDER technology that that proposed, How does Canada manage it, USA, etc etc etc. Seems you fail to acknowledge it is currently used in many countries without the dramas you detail.
Instead you want the least efficient and most expensive. Take subsidies away and the renewable industries of Solar and Wind become uneconomical and it is you and me subsidising them every day my friend.
I have solar yet still pay nearly $1500 a year supply charge simply for being connected to the grid. And I am one of the lucky ones as I pay nothing for electricity myself. Some families are paying $4000+ per year sir to appease Mr Bowen.
This has risen $1100 since I installed solar and my feed in has dropped from 22 cents/kwh to 9cents/kwh.
Renewables are a curse to our wallets contrary to Mr Bowens claim they are the cheapest form of energy.
Show me 1 country using renewables such as solar/wind that has cheap electricity sir. Or has less blackouts than other forms of electricity.
Lets get some REAL environmentally friendly power before BOWEN destroys reliable power supply with his obsession with environmentally dangerous solar/wind and empties our wallets in the process.
Get some facts before you spew ideological nonsense.
It tells everything if "expert" Bowen can't respond to a completely basic but perfectly logical argument presented by 17 years old high school student. But it also raises a very simple question. Who is more and better qualified to be responsible for the whole Australian energy industry - Bowen or a student. Answer is rather obvious.
The current government is colluding with ridiculous and economically destructive popular delusions in order to garner the votes of the ignorant and ill informed. Net Zero is economically destructive delusional insanity.
We are exporting millions of tons of coal each year to other countries which continue to build coal fired power plants for cheap reliable energy. We also export uranium to declared nuclear powers.
And who set the ban in the 70’s? Guess
It was banned in 1998 by The Howard Coalition Government. You may be thinking of a Nuclear Plant that was approved by the Gordon Coaltion Government in 1969 and subsequently cut by the McMahon Coalition Government in 1971 mainly due to cost. I have no problem with Nuclear but it is just too costly and will take at least 20 years before the first Nuclear Plant is built. Renewables are relatively cheap, are environmentally friendly and can be built ount now not in 20 to 50 years.
Can we scrap the Minister for Climate Change which is a joke position and install Nicholas as the first Nuclear Tsar ⚛ 👌🏻
Yes please! Talk about a useless, made up government position. So sick of these morons trying to wreck our country and lives from within while stuffing their fat pockets with foreign commie cash.
Australia is always 200 years behind the rest of the world.
I wouldn't say that. People in Australia are working against your country's interests in the same way it is happening here.
Britain would have a nice shiny new nuclear power-station right now if it weren't for idiot politicians
Germany cancelled their nuclear program because of Japans accident. Despite Germany not being in an earthquake zone and nuclear being the safest fuel
Don't listen to children with soft hands and fuck all life experiences.nuclear is dirty and poisonous.
Don’t worry New Zealand is about another 100 further back
They have Chris Hemsworth, Hugh Jackman and Margot Robbie so ..
Don't feel bad, in Canada they are spending billions on battery plants while EV sales are dropping to oblivion, too late to the party by years.
Even teenagers are smarter than Labor politicians 😂😂😂
I used teach grade 5 kids who were smarter than ANYONE in the Labor or Greens.
Someone had to say it 😂😂😂😂
@@williamblack7813
Lnp and the greens are the new coalition.
@@gore1089🤣 just a minute ago you were praising bowen
@@infidel202
You think the..
Greens and the LNP..
are a good coalition.. 😂..
Greens are just an unripened version of the LNP.
They will go rotten very quickly now that Sky has taken them under their wing.
Will, you're a champion.
We need so many people like yourself to lead this country back to being great.
No political bullshit, just sound research and honesty.
Keep up the great work.
Something was banned because it's too expensive? What kind of idiot thought of that logic?
This kid's intellect make Bowen look about as smart as a lump of coal
Do you have any evidence that Bowen is that smart? (as a lump of coal)
In Ontario, these plants have been active for 40+years. Zero 'waste' has left the property. Anyone seen the blue glowing pools? That's all onsite.
This guy is half Bowen's age yet twice as smart.
The savings from not having to rewire the grid or pay money to crooked organisations is never taken into account
It would take 5 to 10 years to build all the western built reactor have blown out in cost and time. The USA and UK haven't desposit sites themselves.
We should abandon the economically destructive delusional insanity of Net Zero and use the most economical energy resources available.
Nuclear power plants should be legalised, however, coal is much cheaper.
Numerous other countries are continuing to build coal fired power plants and we continue to export millions of tons of coal each year. The hypocrisy and stupidity of our politicians is incredible.
Aussies are paying 18 billion annually to subsidise Green Energy.
@@yfelwulf its 2.8 billion to 11 billion to the fossils fuel companies.
Is Bowen taking notice?? I don't think so-head in the sand-scared he ll be kicked out
In France we have the cheaper energy thanks to nuclear energy.
Westinghouse has a newer small scale reactor called the AP300. It takes up less space than half a football field, generates power for up to 300,000 homes and is a smaller model of their successful AP1000 that has been in the field for over a decade. Cost is 1.2 billion US. Lifespan of 75 years. The costs are known, the technology is safe and the power is reliable and efficient.
Which grid is that SMR producing electricity for?
@@pwillis1589 Westinghouse’s AP1000 design was certified by the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission in 2005. The company currently has six AP1000 nuclear plants operating or under construction. Four are operating at two separate sites in China: two at Sanmen Nuclear Power Station and two at Haiyang Nuclear Power Plant.
Two AP1000 units also are under construction at the Alvin W. Vogtle Electric Generating Plant near Waynesboro, Georgia. Construction at Vogtle has been bogged down by numerous delays and rising costs. In December project engineers told the Georgia Public Service Commission Vogtle Unit 3 wouldn’t meet the completion range of July 2022 to September 2022 set by Georgia Power, who shares ownership of the project. Engineers told state regulators a more accurate completion target might be November 2022 to February 2023. They said Unit 4 may not come online until sometime in late-2024.
Westinghouse Electric Company signed memorandums of understanding (MOUs) with seven companies to potentially deploy the company’s AP1000 nuclear reactor for the Dukovany 5 project in the Czech Republic.
@@pwillis1589Surely you can do your own research?
😊
@@typetersen8809 If you understood the topic you would know the question was rhetorical. Only two SMRs are in production one in China and one in Russia, both are not operational yet and hopelessly over budget. The potential for SMRs is huge but yet to be realised. You need to do some research.
@pwillis1589 what do you think is in a nuclear submarine.... we have been putting small reactors in those for a fair while now.
Odd how $380B is too much to provide the nation with power, but the same amount has been found for half a dozen submarines.
A network of conventional nuclear power plants would be much less expensive.
Especially when it was costed for something like 60 reactors and we only need around 10.
And these submarines are powered by wait for it nuclear power!
@@blackprince4074moving targets
Yet to go fully solar/wind will cost upwards of $1.5 TRILLION. I have heard he based his Nuclear costings on 70 plants and some have said we will require only 10 to generate same power as wind/solar and the cost will be substantially below Bowens figure(closer to $50billion).
Now, been many years since I was at school but am sure $50Bn or even $380BN is substantially less than $1.5TRILLION so if Bowen believes we can afford $1.5TRILLION how is $50BN - $380Bn too expensive? Surely Trillion is more than billions or did I miss something in my old math classes?
Can't you get a good idea of the costs for Nuclear Energy just by looking at neighboring Countries who do use Nuclear!!??!!??
You can but the total cost (build, decommissioning and safe disposal for 10000 years is so unaffordable that even The USA cannot afford to put in a permanent disposal facility for waste or decommissioning. This however does not fit the pro nuclear agenda.
Apologies for my typo . There safe time-line for high level waste is 100,000 years not 10000. Every recent build I have looked at has also gone so far over budget that they cannot afford to Finish a lot of them.
@@peteseed5383 Well Ameruca has 54 Nuclear Power Plants in opperation atm which averages to more than 1 a State, France has 56 operational, Japan has 33, Russia with 38, and many other Ciuntries with Nuclear Power to compair costs to for building and opperations!!
Wow that was excellent unbelievable, 17 years old ay, it’s good to see that not all the young people are ignorant and brain dead
Wow. HIS EXCITING.
1) Articulate, Educated on the topic, Bold, Clear in communication, Confident.
2) His got an honest, natural leadership quality.
I hope his talents are nourished by the right people.
Well done young man. I sincerely hope you concur your life goals without loosing your roots.
This is basic information which should have been heeded many years before this young one was born.
If we want to get anywhere near “Net Zero” , which we won’t, then nuclear is the only way to go. Small Modular Nuclear Reactors. Good Onya Will
Since carbon dioxide emissions are actually beneficial, there is no need for Net Zero in the first place.
It is fantastic delusional green nonsense.
Labor is afraid of the Greens
Labour is afraid of the dark ….
And that’s exactly where Bowen is taking us
Why are politicians going on about Nuclear Energy and issues, when we are going to have a nuclear submarine fleet !! 😳
Great question!
The next generation technology to generate energy from nuclear waste is already here. Australia could be at the forefront of solving the last hurdle to clean and safe nuclear waste deposal for good with smart nodular nuclear power generators reusing nuclear waste generated by conventional reactors until it is spent. There's plenty of it, hundreds of years worth.
Fast breeder reactors are currently being built and used in Russia and India.
The ITER project in France will shed light upon the feasibility of nuclear fusion power plants.
We should withdraw from the Paris Accord and repeal the renewable targets legislation and legalise nuclear power and simply use the most economical energy resources available.
So, the underestimated 2 trillion-dollar cost of transitioning to renewables is cheaper than nuclear? Is that what Labor are trying to spin?
Well spoken Will Shackel
Inspiring young man.
Onya Will . What a legend
Its a crazy time when young adults have more common sense than bought off politicians!!!!
Wow! Is there really a ban on nuclear energy in Australia? How entrenched are the greens in that country anyway? Waste from nuclear energy shouldn't be a concern any longer. We have the technology to put it on the moon if we have to. If you serious about CO2 generation, the only way to go is nuclear. Period. Will Shackel is an impressive young man who has looked beyond the fear mongering and is asking the right questions.
A 17 year old outsmarting Chris Bowen is hardly a surprise or news.
Will for PM.
Hard to believe South Africa is still the only country in the Southern Hemisphere with a nuclear power plant.
Brazil has at least 2 operational reactors (in the SH) and Argentina has at least 3 operational reactors. Argentina has a well developed nuclear sector due to the German nuclear scientists who went to Argentina after WW2. The German and Argentine nuclear physicists etc convinced the Argentine leadership to invest in nuclear power. Argentina had nuclear power since 1974, Brazil 1982. The Argentinians are working with both China and India on future projects.
@@alanb9337 Yes indeed. I've just looked that up. Cheers
Thank god for Wil … hopefully there are more young people like him out there
Thank God for Will! Australia may yet has hope!
Why a 17 year old? Simple. Our lot are cowards!
YOU CANT MAKE PEOPLE SUFFER WHEN YOU HAVE RELIABLE POWER
There is a famous movie, Dorothy is told to "follow the yellow brick road" There were many obstacles on the road. At the end of the road, there is a wizard, but the wizard turns out to be a fake, it turns out it was all a dream anyway...Now we have Chris 'Follow the Net Zero Road" It's all turning out to be a dream or will it turn out to be just a huge nightmare.
Net Zero is economically destructive delusional insanity.
There is no need for it.
We should simply use the most economical energy resources available.
Refreshing to listen to this young man what a Voice he has..
What a great young bloke, good on you mate, keep up the fight
Diversity 💯👍👏
Even 387 billion would be cheaper than renewables. The cost of the transmission lines alone is 1.5 trillion ffs 🤦♂️
Chris Bowen - we can't have a nuclear reactor because we don't have a nuclear industry.
Common sense - we don't have a nuclear industry because we are not allowed to have a nuclear reactor...
Fantastic argument Will. Facts over emotion.
AUSTRALIA NEEDS MORE YOUNGE BLOKES AND CHICKS LIKE THIS YOUNGE DUDE. WELL DONE YOUNGE DUDE..
Amazing kid and so well spoken. Seems very very intelligent - and also very humble.
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What great young man so bright I take my hat off to him
Bless you young man. Clarity in a place where the politicians thrive by killing clarity.
Bravo, Will !
This ban was always super stupid.
Net Zero is economically destructive delusional insanity.
Squandering hundreds of billions of dollars of taxpayers money trying to prevent small and largely beneficial changes to the earth’s climate is lunacy, especially when other countries are continuing to build coal fired power plants for cheap reliable power.
Listening to this kid gives me hope for the future of young people in this country.
Keep it up Son, love listening to your ideas 🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
Well done mate.
He should get into politics. What a well spoken 17 year old! He could do some actual good.
What a wonderful contrast - intelligent young man on one site and political idiots on the other.
Well done Will Shackel - you and other alike young people make the future of this country brighter.
Changing the name of the portfolio is their priority. As a 30yo, I thought my generation was the last that was exposed to common sense. This kid has inspired me advocate the common sense of the silent majority I believe can't be silent anymore. He has proved we are all fed up with an environment dictated by politixal idealogy not debate centred on reason.
What a brilliant young man telling it like it is they don't call him Casanova Bowen for nothing
Well said bro
See you can see who isn't paid off in Australia
Labour doesn't support it because they know they can't manage the launch of a new national industry.
In 2009 Rudd promised FTTP by 2013.
If we had stayed on labours path, in 2024 half the country would still be on dial up.
In 2024 every Australian provider offers gigabyte plans and close to 90% of users are satisfied with their service.
Those that can, do. Those that can't become politicians.
Good on you Will, at least someone can see what good it would actually do us.
If someone asks: "Do you know Greta Thunberg, the most prominent youth climate activist?"
My answer is "I know William Shackel the most sensible youth climate as well as clean energy activist, and I'm proud of it!"
Cheers
Naweesch
I think the stigma of those politicians and the X Generation is that we were born into the Nuclear age, nuclear being a dirty word of destruction in wars and catastrophes and accidents. As well Australia being an egalitarian country are not up to date with the latest technologies in nuclear and current usage like a majority of world countries at the moment
Coal fired plants are just fine….we don’t need a ‘solution’ to what we already have. CO2 atmospheric concentrations have absolutely no effect on the climate changing, which is driven by our suns own cycles and has changed continuously for our planets history. This whole discussion is moot.
So a 17 year old student has proven beyond doubt that Mr Bowen does not have the necessary equipment between his ears
Haven’t we a lot of dumb people in our current Government. Dumb and dumber in charge .
They are shown up by this very smart 17/18 yr old 👏👏👏👍👍👍
We need these outdated politicians to go and get young pragmatic in the office
We are currently burdened with a large cohort of dishonest duplicitous politicians who are colluding with ridiculous and economically destructive popular delusions. They are acting contrary to the national interest and need to be removed from power.
It’s about time that Nuclear energy is used, it is cheap, clean and limitless. Yes there are safety issues but that’s why it would be managed by technology and professionals. It is important for every country that it is energy independent and not ever in a position where other countries can hold them to ransom.
Could you please point me to a LCOE study that shows nuclear is cheap? Thanks.
@@pwillis1589the IEA has stated clearly the LCOE cannot be used to compare dispatchable baseload to intermittent variable energy. Break that down and try to understand it and then realise how stupid your question was…
@@polarbear7255 Nope you are factually wrong because there are also LCOS studies. I’m amazed at how ignorant of the subject you are or how little understanding you have of grid capacity v demand and the technology available to maintain capacity with renewables. Can you read?
For the dimwits the question was to the cost not the reliability or capacity. Idiot strawman arguments or comment are a dime a dozen.
@@pwillis1589 🤣 it’s funny you think you know stuff: read a little wider… that’s not the comparison metric you are looking for… want me to help you?
🤣 such an amateur
The young fella is right about nuclear, there is new and proven technology available right now that negates almost all of the issues of the past. What Australia needs is strategically place small scale reactors to supply base load power to the grid..the trick with nuclear power has always been keeping them cool, provided the reactors are placed so that they have a more than significant access to water for cooling then it is a no brainer.
keep this pressure up and there will be a scare at lucas heights reactor like last time
You can't understand the cost of building a house until you build it. What BS. Think banks are going to give you a loan on that basis?? Think the public should foot the bill?? I'm for a decent discussion but this is way below standard.
Good to see young people
Taking resposibility after all its going to affect them in the future
Sad state of affairs when a 17 year old wipe the floor with a group of politicians. He really showed everyone how pathetic they are.
Good on him, what a brilliant young man
This kid is a future energy minister in the making. Cuts through the BS with facts. Laughable that Labor sends its people on to then dodge answering questions and being exposed by a 17 year old.