I can't believe we finally got this closure in Endwalker

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  • Опубликовано: 10 дек 2024

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  • @ericbright1742
    @ericbright1742 Год назад +88

    G'raha: "Good to see you back. How fared your journey to the First?"
    WoL: "G'raha, remember how you left a working time machine on the First?"
    G'raha: "...there are a lot of implications in that question, and I don't like any of them."

  • @nixypixy3474
    @nixypixy3474 Год назад +99

    Love how you're not back from Elpis for even five minutes and Zenos goes and answers Hermes' question.

    • @cyphi474
      @cyphi474 Год назад +7

      I hate how you're back from Elpis and Scions are like 'whatever'....

  • @Irish_Ian17
    @Irish_Ian17 Год назад +60

    Urianger did nothing wrong, He deserves all the love and happiness he can find.

  • @serisothikos
    @serisothikos Год назад +58

    I've played a female Roegadyn since I started, back in January 2014. We've always been the least-played group - typically about 1-3% of any given server. Back then, that meant I could go weeks without seeing another one, whether NPC or player, outside of our occasional interactions with Merlwyb. Then, in 2.4, they introduced this brash, brilliant character who fits right into our squad and is unapologetically herself. And then, not even a whole patch later, they took her away again, in as permanent a way as possible. I'll always look at it as one of the worst storytelling decisions they've ever made.
    Since then, there have been minor femroe characters flitting in and out of the MSQ (Midnight Dew in Idyllshire, Stark Woad in late Stormblood) and important ones in its side content (Mitsuba and Misija come to mind), but there's never been another I thought might endure as a member of the core supporting characters. When Endwalker came out, it had been around six and a half years since 2.5. I was pleased that Ishikawa had acknowledged Moenbryda frequently in Shadowbringers, and even moreso in Endwalker as the story and sidequests progressed, but I still expected it to come to little.
    And then this scene happened, and I ended up full-body sobbing into a pillow for almost ten minutes, so much so that my wife came over to check on me. It felt like someone finally understood just how important this character was to some of us, and offered us a long-belated catharsis. I didn't realize until that second how much that meant to me. I still miss her, but I don't feel cheated by her loss in the same way as I did before.

    • @marls5459
      @marls5459 Год назад +10

      I play femroe and basically exactly built like Moenbryda so I was unbelievably excited when she showed up, twins!
      And then…. I play a walking reminder of what happened to her, I had so many feelings here

    • @castoputa
      @castoputa Год назад

      Being rare is special too! The most precious things are the least common ❤

    • @kixmix2450
      @kixmix2450 Год назад +8

      Moenbryda became my favourit "Scion" the moment she entered the scene. I love loud, energetic characters who bring out something new from the people around them. I was devastated by her loss, much more than about Haurchefant. I was so happy that they included her.

    • @CeruleanRogue
      @CeruleanRogue Год назад +11

      Apparently Moenbryda was one of the NPCs Ishikawa created according to an interview. And she apparently was furious when another writer went and killed her off so quickly. I like to think that both ShB and EW are her revenge. She lost her beloved NPC so now she gets to make the rest of us cry.

    • @shadow98004
      @shadow98004 Год назад +5

      ​@@CeruleanRogueyou wanna know another character she made that someone else killed off? _Haurchefant._

  • @ONYP3RF3C710N
    @ONYP3RF3C710N Год назад +22

    At PAX East this year, Yoshi-P said (for our pleasure as much as his own), the Urianger-and-Moen's-Parents scene is his absolute favourite. What a moment to witness.

  • @Furitaurus
    @Furitaurus Год назад +10

    I've seen the scene of Urianger reuniting with Moenbryda's parents multiple times on other people's playthroughs and it makes me cry. Every. Single. Time.

  • @XenosInfinity
    @XenosInfinity Год назад +44

    Ah, I see you've reached the Advanced Hugging Technology cutscene. It's a shame it took so long to be able to rig that up properly, even for a cutscene with two specific characters so they don't have to make it work for everyone - but I don't think there's anyone more deserving of being in that hug.

    • @ExileTwilight
      @ExileTwilight Год назад +3

      I think a part of why they didn't do it for Thancred and Ryne (as many would like) is simply due to their size differences. I imagine the 3d skeletons to be quite a bit limited, and it might just not have looked good.. Or perhaps they just felt a hand on the head to be more appropriate for Thancred.. *shrug*

    • @WalkerRileyMC
      @WalkerRileyMC 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@ExileTwilight The skeleton rigs are actually really really complex. The reason they don't do this often is because it takes a hell of a lot of effort to get all the bones moving properly.

  • @WalkerRileyMC
    @WalkerRileyMC 10 месяцев назад +3

    I knew Moenbryda's parents weren't going to blame Urianger, but I fully epected Bloewyda to slap him silly for avoiding them. The hug was instant water works.

  • @sylverkat9488
    @sylverkat9488 Год назад +8

    The moment with Moenbryda's parents, for me, was and is one of the best moments in the game. I don't know how many times I've seen this and I still bawled right along with you. Again, thank you so much for sharing.

  • @magus13131
    @magus13131 Год назад +15

    I've been playing XIV since ARR beta phase 3 and out of *every* cutscene, NOTHING has hit me as hard as this scene.
    In ARR, I felt anger at Noraxia's fate, at Livia for harming a *child* like that.
    In HW, grief over Ysayle especially. Sympathy for Count Edmund. Again in SB for Gosetsu and Tsuyu, and of course in ShB, everyone knows.
    But all of those emotions paled in comparison to how rough Moenbryda's parents hit me. The only time I had to step away from the game to take a breather.

  • @GaMEChld
    @GaMEChld Год назад +2

    Midgardsormr is my favorite. Dude traveled across space as the last of his race, "died" destroying the Agrius, then just decides to wake up and do whatever he wants between naps. Even though he's dead. And NO ONE QUESTIONS IT. It's just like... Well of course, you think death would be anything but a mild inconvenience to him?

  • @Piretfreak87
    @Piretfreak87 Год назад +2

    I just saw this cutscene for the first time last night myself. I have watched it over and over and I cry and cry and cry. This one hits hard. Harder than Moenbrydas death back in ARR to be honest. Back then I didn't know how very important she was for him but after seeing this I wish I could go back and save her as well. But now at least Urianger gets the closure he deserved.

  • @SuperLoop7209
    @SuperLoop7209 Год назад +4

    Never in all my years of gaming have I sobbed so much as I did when watching the scene with Moen’s parents.

  • @Corosar
    @Corosar Год назад +6

    Moenbryda's death didn't bother me much. I think i had a few tears for her... But seeing this closure for Urianger... One of my favorite characters alongside G'raha. It made me cry like a baby so so much. especially after seeing him struggling through it the entire time. He might have done so many questionable things. But he is a good man. just wanting to do the best he can. He deserves the hugs. and i am so happy he has family that cares do deeply for him.

  • @cparle87
    @cparle87 Год назад +4

    Did you wonder why everyone was asking you if you did Coils? You didn't include that part in your video but during the talk with Kokkol the WoL can have a PTSD flashback where he imagines the White Raven's ghost haunting him, and Alisaie has to comfort them. That isn't an option if you haven't done Coils and all you have is the cheerful "should I go get the whatsits" or complaining about more chores.
    One thing to keep in mind for Moenbryda is it's been longer for Urianger than for her parents, since he spent years on the First, but he's still in mourning.
    That entire cutscene is just one huge reward for doing the side content:
    If you haven't done Sky Pirates it's a generic Temple Knight instead of Leofard and Cait Sith.
    If you haven't done Four Lords Soroban appears but there's no extra voice lines and they don't donate Tenzen's sword.
    If you haven't done Ivalice the Prima Vista is there but they don't talk about wanting to do another adventure with you.
    If you haven't done Omega then Omega and Alpha aren't there.
    If you haven't done Werlyt there's no package from Gaius Cid delivers along the way.
    If you haven't done Alexander Boulder doesn't talk about the gobbiebooms and the Idyllshire people helping you.
    1:04:01 That's the first time the final member of the First Brood was mentioned.
    1:04:35 Yeah, he only woke up for a moment to say yes. If you haven't read all the short stories on the lodestone I'll put spoiler tags for it. Scroll down if you want to see.
    1:07:15 You are gonna get destroyed by this next part.
    1:11:45 Another "it is beautiful/it is not beautiful". I need a counter for these.
    1:13:25 When this line came up I couldn't help but think thus: "MY influence!? Up until the Bloody Banquet it was YOUR kids dragging ME all around the realm into danger, not the other way around!"
    One of them follows the descendents of the Ironworks after they sent G'raha and the Crystal Tower back in time as they begin to try to rebuild their world. Omega is still in his toy chassis and has begun to understand the human soul, at least a bit. Middy has rejuvenated himself after 200 years and his body around the Keeper of the Lake comes back to life. He approaches the Ironworks folks and pledges to help them rebuild the world.

  • @TarundiMC
    @TarundiMC Год назад +3

    I've never happy cried as hard in my life as I did over this scene. The setup was immaculate, I was so busy being upset over the extended fetch quest that preceded it that it caught me completely off guard, I was not prepared for it in the slightest, and it wounded me with such joy as I had never felt.

  • @BrightNeonBrilliancy
    @BrightNeonBrilliancy Год назад +12

    Whenever I watch this scene and Cid comes on and I'm like 'RIGHT?!?!' Whhhhhy didn't they call for him sooner?! This is the dude's speciality!

    • @RothAnim
      @RothAnim Год назад +1

      To be fair, we already had an expert engineer give us a solution we could provide. If Kokkol didn't tell us exactly what he needed, we probably would have called Cid straight-up.

    • @cparle87
      @cparle87 8 месяцев назад +1

      Wasn't he still busy replacing the lilke 500 magitek terminals of his that we blew up?

  • @willanrac
    @willanrac Год назад +3

    @4:33 LOL i was on my monk wearing the muscle shirt when this cut scene happened LOL . I had to choose never give skip your squat regimen. I was swol as fuck.

  • @GamingFoodie
    @GamingFoodie Год назад +1

    That was an entire appropriate reaction to seeing Erenville!

  • @Nathan-sh1zg
    @Nathan-sh1zg Год назад +4

    i personally feel that the closure with urianger happening so much later in the game from ARR to EW made a lot of sense. because had the closure happened immediately, well then that's it! closure for moenbryda done! move on and reminisce! but in EW, we get to see just how much urianger bottled it up, kept it inside, and we also learn (by moen's parents own words) how much he was crying when writing the letter and just how much he couldnt face them in person to deliver the news
    idk. in my personal opinion, it shows a lot more character depth to leave it for that long and to be able to learn later on that yeah urianger is keeping that from you, in order to protect people from his own grief and probably because he feels like it would burden them. ive seen ppl getting annoyed at how EW takes stuff from ARR and either offers explanations or closure, but to me waiting on it is much more rewarding. to finally not have a game that is hounding you with A Bad Event > Closure > Another Bad Event > Closure over and over but actually taking the time to make characters react like how real people would... by trying to avoid potential closure because it scares them. like a lot of us who went through this fully expected moenbryda's mom to begin yelling at him but instead we got this. god its so good

  • @LuriTV
    @LuriTV Год назад +1

    funnily enough the search for reactions to this moment gives a popup for a hotline for crisis councelling :P

    • @terabellum
      @terabellum  Год назад +1

      HAHA OH NOOOO. But this game is cheaper than therapy 😅

  • @ecyor0
    @ecyor0 Год назад +2

    Fuck, the scene with Moenbryda's parents, it still gets me every time.

  • @WalkerRileyMC
    @WalkerRileyMC 10 месяцев назад +1

    Nah...Fourchenault is a great dad. He was prepared to kidnap his own kids if he had to. The disowning was a charade so he could keep working towards building the ship.

  • @MrDoot-hj2ir
    @MrDoot-hj2ir Год назад +8

    Zenos casually dissing the Emet-Selch fandom
    "Nah bro I fucked around and found out, no biggie. Plus, cope harder, no sad background for you today, scrub"

  • @lvl10cooking
    @lvl10cooking Год назад +1

    That scene with Urianger still has me in tears every time

  • @SkeletonFlower
    @SkeletonFlower Год назад +4

    I don't trust people that don't start crying right away when Urianger is embraced. It's good to know that you're trustworthy!

  • @GamingFoodie
    @GamingFoodie Месяц назад

    58:10 same. Same.

  • @RoyvanG
    @RoyvanG Год назад +3

    We in the endgame now boys and girls. Was excited for this episode and looking forward to the next few

  • @RokkitGrrl
    @RokkitGrrl Год назад +1

    Ooooh I've been waiting for this. 🥰

  • @Nidrog
    @Nidrog Год назад

    42 Minutes in. I ALWAYS. Fucking ALWAYS break at this moment. I love it. And I loved seeing your reaction to it Terra.

  • @mummyheadGamma
    @mummyheadGamma Год назад

    RE: Fourchenault. Something to consider. Alisaie says that Alphinaud is like their mother. A lot of his personality quirks come from her. Smart but maybe too wholesome. Alisaie, on the other hand, is brash and impulsive and sometimes lets her emotions get the better of her. Wonder where she got that from lol

  • @LazzyVamples
    @LazzyVamples Год назад

    So the WoL and the scions are out on a leisurely boat trip. While the WoL is below deck to go to the bathroom, their fishing rod jerk as a fish gets hooked on the line. So Y'shtola grabs a hold of the rod and says: "Until our friend returns, I will hold the line."
    Meanwhile, Alisae is keeping a watch for more fish from the rear of the boat when Alphinaud join her. Alisae pouts and says: "I can look aft myself, you know."

  • @iBLookinATu
    @iBLookinATu 5 месяцев назад

    "Our progeny may never know / Wherefore we look unto the sky, / Nor why we dig for truths below; / We bear their scorn or watch them die." - From the Journal of A Resolute Man

  • @Mhantrax
    @Mhantrax Год назад +12

    Zenos' dialogue is one of those unbearable truths to many.
    I accept what he says. Yet I retain my own will so do not feel compelled to act in such a way.
    But Zenos is correct in his assessment.

    • @acgearsandarms1343
      @acgearsandarms1343 Год назад +7

      Zenos has always been honest. You don’t have to like him to acknowledge how he acts. Trust me, I don’t like him but he is so different to many other antagonists with more complexities.

    • @IsilmeTuruphant
      @IsilmeTuruphant Год назад +11

      Zenos is absolutely right in what he said. But at the same time, so was Alisae. She struck to the core of Zenos' problem, his great malaise - He seeks connection with others, like any other person. But he's unable to, save through the thrill of battle. But he struggled to find even one person to connect to this way, and even then they turned away from him.
      Alisae pointed out that if he could not care for others, they would not care for him. Obvious to most, but Zenos is a complete sociopath, and human emotion is an enigma to him. He sought to cause despair and hatred because that would make the WoL fight harder, but it wasn't what he really wanted. What he WANTED was a connection with them. Alisae's words forced Zenos to consider that the petty, unimportant things other people pursued were not petty and unimportant to THEM, and that it didn't matter if HE valued or understood them. He had bid them find meaning in their lives themselves, yet had always dismissed that meaning they had found, and that blocked him from making the connection he craved.
      He was broken, irredeemable and vicious... but even he evolved a little in the course of the story.

    • @Mhantrax
      @Mhantrax Год назад

      @@IsilmeTuruphant I completely agree!

    • @acgearsandarms1343
      @acgearsandarms1343 Год назад

      @@IsilmeTuruphant Very succinct way to put it.

  • @Salt_Mage
    @Salt_Mage Год назад

    They really put one of the hardest hitting emotional payoff scenes in the middle of the long stretch of repetitive music.

  • @jefferybaird4845
    @jefferybaird4845 Год назад

    Out of all the parts that I cried at this game. This right here absently broke me.

  • @Grimdock
    @Grimdock Год назад +2

    I swear to God Graha is a damn treasure.

  • @capncorby
    @capncorby Год назад

    50:10 Lopporit Terra! 😮

  • @Dastreus
    @Dastreus Год назад

    In an interview with Yoshi-P, he said the scene that got the most tears from him was the Urianger and Moenbryda's parents scene.

  • @rexex345
    @rexex345 Год назад +1

    The worst part about zenos... Is that he's right. We may not agree with his specific answer to the question for himself, but the conclusion that lead him there is 100% correct and in a way that's why he's so dangerous, he's the last person you'd want to have the freedom that comes with that understanding.

    • @rexex345
      @rexex345 Год назад +1

      And yet, that's also why he's wrong. He has the answers and intelligence to reach them, but he lacks the heart for lack of a better term to understand it.

  • @ApexGale
    @ApexGale Год назад

    G'raha, after averting two apocalypses given a century's worth of hard work and toil: Wanna watch me do it again?

  • @AnneAleph
    @AnneAleph Год назад

    I don't have nearly as much to say about this section, so instead I'd just like to say it's been a pleasure to come along this ride so far and that seeing you cry may have been the closest I got to crying as well, which is a bleeding miracle mind you
    And, let us-no, no, I'm not making another Eldwalker pun, we've had too many by now

  • @finnianheart
    @finnianheart Год назад +1

    ZENOS LOVE

  • @PreviouslyDelicious
    @PreviouslyDelicious Год назад

    I was like wtf SE, where the hell did that come from!

  • @danh8804
    @danh8804 Год назад

    Nothing guts me quite as much as Urianger trying to venture that it was his fault Moenbryda died because he asked her for help ("No, more than that. T'was I who...") and her father cutting him off. This scene is his VA's finest hour in the game. Just realizing that that was what Urianger had been carrying around for the... well, let's not playing along with the time bubble, all the years since that happened - certainty that it was his fault she was dead.

  • @DarkPollution
    @DarkPollution Год назад

    Only now when i'm watching this, during the adamantite scene where everybody shows up, everybody that doesn't really play a main role is fucking ROCK SOLID, like they ain't breathing or moving LOL

  • @raisnaix
    @raisnaix Год назад

    Good stuff brother.

  • @BlackWolv13
    @BlackWolv13 Год назад

    *insert spiderman meme* it's you, but it's me!! But you can't be me? We have the same glam and are both lalafellian Popotos o.o

  • @kisaragireion
    @kisaragireion Год назад +1

    Last time we had a hug, it was Dulia’s backbreaker. Which one would you prefer?

  • @KylerStern366
    @KylerStern366 Год назад

    Of all the theories I had about endwalker, I never thought they would make me cry about a character that died before Heavensward. Lol hit me like a truck

  • @LumiereInfinity
    @LumiereInfinity Год назад

    I swear, Urianger with Moenbryda's parents broke me ;n;

  • @pereralonso
    @pereralonso Год назад +1

    You said Mappingway has the cutest voice
    Fun fact: It's the same VA of Livingway :D

  • @monsunoguy19
    @monsunoguy19 Год назад

    The end draws nigh..

  • @celadore
    @celadore Год назад

    The evaccuation is such a hail mary that I just assume it's true ourpose was to give the world hope so they dont transform while the real plan is enacted

    • @terabellum
      @terabellum  Год назад +1

      This makes PERFECT sense, and it never occurred to me! "Hey, the world is ending, and you have to defeat a cosmic horror at the end of the universe to survive." It would absolutely tip some people over the edge into blasphemies.

  • @KitsuneSoup
    @KitsuneSoup Год назад

    Anyone who can forgive Zenos or think this expansion 'redeemed' his character better frickin' respect Fourchenault by the end. I would bear the hate of the entire world if it meant saving the people I love.

  • @xSHIELDBREAKERx82
    @xSHIELDBREAKERx82 Год назад

    They don't call it "Feelswalker" for shiggles.

  • @hermeticallysealed1
    @hermeticallysealed1 Год назад

    Alisaie: Zenos!
    Zenos: ...
    Alisaie: Bitch.

  • @riftwalker9296
    @riftwalker9296 Год назад

    To think the payoff for Moenbryda was nearly 10 years in the coming. I cannot think of any other game or other media that played that kind of long game.

  • @Keira_Blackstone
    @Keira_Blackstone Год назад +2

    1. the Urianger scene is definitely the hardest cry I had the entire game. An absolute masterpiece. No notes.
    2. The Zenos scene to me almost feels like a fourth wall break calling out all the simps for supreme genocide-doer Emet-Selch. "Would you be happier had I a good reason?" No, no I would not. Though a sizable portion of the playerbase seems to disagree on whether Emet even counts as a villain, despite him being almost incalculably evil, just because his evil had a tragic backstory, as most evil does.

    • @jothki
      @jothki Год назад

      Venat has done far worse than Emet-Selch ever could, and is even more easily forgiven for her motives.

    • @jonathanborba9280
      @jonathanborba9280 Год назад

      Someone being labeled a villain a lot of time mean some mustache twirling "I'm a big bad" type of character. It's hard to put Emet into that bucket. He is a villain but I think many prefer to just say he's an antagonist. Also understanding why someone is doing something makes it much harder to throw on labels and dislike. His character is easy to like, but what he does is still awful.

  • @Tazrael
    @Tazrael Год назад

    F in the chat for the people who do the "What do you mean EVERYONE?" scene and get the shorter versions. Or Alpha and Omega are missing from the crowd.

  • @liony9400
    @liony9400 Год назад

    when he says I wish I knew why people like graha so much..... while he is graha.

  • @Ziyanani
    @Ziyanani Год назад

    i still think we need a stable path to the first.. introduce fourcheese to Dulia with a list of what he did to make my twins cry..

  • @25xxfrostxx
    @25xxfrostxx Год назад

    It (fire) wood.

  • @HectorGalvan
    @HectorGalvan Год назад

    One of the BETS MOMTERS in thsi game. Wonderfully scripted, voice acted. great great story

  • @cyphi474
    @cyphi474 Год назад

    And thats not even worst part....just wait. :)

  • @ranaku603
    @ranaku603 Год назад

    As much as i like Jullus he is a bit of a hypocrite here cause as long as it fit him he did go with all the atrocities the empire committed. Cause he thinks his reason was justified. I mean they were about to release the black rose and only zenos came to prevent that by killing his own father thus changing the future G'raha came from.