Why Do US Aircraft Carriers Have NO DOORS in Hangar Bay?
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- Опубликовано: 18 май 2024
- On the world's largest aircraft carriers, where hangar bays store jet fighters worth billions of dollars, there's a surprisingly missing detail: NO hangar doors. At first glance, this might seem like a simple design oversight or a cost-saving measure. But could there be more to it? A secret, an innovation, or perhaps, as some jokingly suggest, a portal to another dimension? Of course, leaving the realm of fantasy aside, this mystery is too intriguing not to explore.
How do these floating fortresses protect their precious cargo from the whims of weather and the threats at sea, without the usual protection of hangar doors? The answer lies not just in the design philosophy and the evolutionary history of naval warfare, but also reveals surprising insights about strategy, technology, and the indomitable human spirit pushing the boundaries of the possible.
If there is one thing that we can say without any doubt, it’s that aircraft carriers are the crown jewels of the US naval fleet. Imagine a runway that can sail anywhere… carriers are just that! They can easily launch and recover aircraft at sea, allowing them to provide air support anywhere in the world. They have allowed naval forces to project air power great distances without having to depend on local bases for staging aircraft operations. They’re often referred to as floating cities at sea which are essential for power projection, air superiority, and maritime security, playing a pivotal role in modern naval operations. #usnavy #aircraftcarrier #sailors
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Well, if you keep listening/reading, the article gors on to talk about various hanger doors that arr now used..
I am so confused! Must be the bot voice
RRRRRRR they now? 🦜
Learn how to form a video and maybe you wouldn't get your ass torn apart in the comments. You can literally see the doors in your intro. Not to mention all of us carrier vets don't need to watch to know how wrong you are.
someone fell off a carrier we were following over to Nam in the old days. The carrier did not stop, but gave us the option of stopping to look if we wanted. It was night and we all got up with battle lanterns to look off our destroyer. It was night time and we spotted him after about half hour. lol He was lucky, lucky, lucky!
That was an outright miracle.
That is one of the roles of destroyer screens, although it's usually pilots they are expected to rescue.
I served CV-62, CV-64, CV-66 and CVN-70. All had elevator doors.
INDY BOY!! i Served CV-63
I served aboard IKE 1991-1994.
I was on the Carl Vinson CVN-70. We had hangar doors, but kept them open all the time.
@@Richborg44 the Hawk was only closed for rough seas if i recall. but that was 99-02
Only time I seen our HB doors closed on the Vinson was if it was bad weather or they had the white lights on at night during deployment.
You can literally see the non-existent hanger bay doors in the video. Aircraft Carriers have doors that close the elevators off from the hanger bays, and doors that separate the hanger bays into sections.
I served aboard the Kennedy for 4 years. The hanger had doors at all the elevators. They were closed during general quarters and while at sea during rough conditions.
Yup!
I was on the USS Ranger CV-61, for 3 years. If those weren't hanger doors, THEN, they were side doors by the aircraft elevators, you know the big sliding door, with the bell that rang when they open and closed. We had 3 big elevators with sliding doors, or maybe those were windows.
Can confirm!
USS JFK, VF-14 89-92 Good timez :-)
"Look, I'm not saying all Sailors are gay, but how many centuries did they say it was bad luck to have women on board?"
It was sexist.@@Rotorhead1651
How stupid are they? Every carrier has doors on the hangar deck
You can see them on the screen next to the elevator on the inside of the hanger bay.
Yes, the Nimitz class had hangar doors at the elevators. All US supercarriers have them.
AND a huge door mid hangerbay
Delete this one. Not sure who is reading.
this is a dumb question would you NOT!!!! have doors on your bathroom ????
@@kennethhamilton5633there are doors between each of the 3 hanger bays. ( 2 doors )
I was on the Ronald Reagan CVN-76. We had hanger bay doors. I have to admit... I kinda miss those days lol.
@jayjaySTAR718 I was lucky enough to be on a tour of the CVN-76 whilst she was in Brisbane Australia some years .I was very impressed & very fortunate, I will never forget on board memorial to Ronald Reagan. I believe she lost a couple of F-18s in night training off Queensland .
I can see why some would miss being a part of such a close knit and important team of warriors. A carrier is an organism of immense complexity. Everyone aboard has a job and does it to their utmost ability. I can understand why you would remember that period of your life with pride and longing. Especially because of the other members of the crew that you never see again. What have you done since that was more demanding or honorable, except maybe being a good parent? Thanks for defending my freedom, I use it everyday.
I deployed on CV-19 (Hancock) in 75 and CV-43 (Coral Sea) in 77. Every now and then I kind of almost, sort of miss the flight deck.
@lynnkramer1211 what an awesome reply! I couldn’t have said it any better myself. Thank you & it was absolutely an honor!
me too, but, mostly, I miss being 19!
I'm not sure where you get your information but there ARE hangar door on all aircraft elevator lifts ( 4 ). There are also interior hangar doors splitting the lower hangar into 2 separate spaces for fire containment and damage control. Better check your facts.
I was a Marine Corps grunt and was aboard the U.S.S. New Orleans, LPH-11, and it had hanger bay doors. The only times I saw the doors closed were during high seas during severe storms and general quarters. As someone else mentioned, I could see the hanger doors in almost all the photos and videos.🤔
lolol don't believe your eyes, they say.
I was in E 2/4 31st MEU(SOC) for the last deployment of the New Orleans down to Austrailia for Tandem Thrust '97. We took a rouge wave and nearly lost the ship. If they hadn't had the doors closed they would have lost a lot of gear.
That's a LIE! They have doors, They even have ballistic door for the partition of Bay 1 and Bay 2
Whoever pretends to be editor of this NAVY productions. Would do better by telling us WHY SUBMARINES DON'T HAVE SCREEN DOORS!
Best comment yet! 🤣
Or why the submarines dont have porches and Or screen room? And nursery rooms.
We had screen doors on boats, but the hinges kept squeaking and giving away our location, so we deleted them...
@@subvet694 Didn't that leave you vulnerable to those pesky mosquito boats?
@@michaelleitner1245 No, they can't hold their breath long enough to get down to us.
Steel thick doors designed to restrict the spread of fire, has been present on US aircraft carriers since WWII, also nowadays the ships needed to be airtight(if possible) due to chemical attack.
This person doesn't know what they're talking about, carriers do have hanger doors. They're typically closed during bad weather or General Quarters. In addition, when our helicopter squadron went to sea with the USS Independence (Aircraft Carrier), the Captain often closed the hanger doors and turned off the lights at night in the hanger, we had to do maintenance using flashlights, which I hated. He wanted to simulate battle conditions.
My air wing accomplished deployments on CV 65 Enterprise and CV66 America. All carriers including the aforementioned have elevator doors as well as doors in the middle of the hanger bay for compartmentalization to minimize battle damage during general quarters.
You clearly have never set foot on a Carrier. All the elevators have doors. Generally, they keep them open for ventilation, and close them as needed.
USS Ranger (CV-61), we had hangar bay doors, but hardly ever closed them.
"It goes without mentioning..." and then goes on to talk about it for two minutes. Who writes this stuff?
11:21 - USS Franklin was not lost. The crew put out the fires, and she was underway to Ulithi for temp repairs, then Pearl, and finally to the B.N.Y. for repairs.
The Bonhomme Richard burned because of failures in fire prevention & maintenance procedures, such as all the fire extinguishing systems being disabled, portable fire bottles all being emptied. Everything needed to put a fire out was not available, or disabled. Hangar doors would have been disabled too if it had any.
Me also, I served in 3 carriers and all had doors that close from left or right..and you will know when they are activated to close or open, THEY ARE LOUD,!
At 0:07 you can see the doors. Just behind the sailors head you see the barber pole stripes at the base of the doors.
lololol who the fck made this video?
Bon Hom Richard was a Wasp Class LHD, not America Class LHA. I was stationed on USS Wasp LHD 1 2000-03
In 1968 we were in port at Pearl (home port). I was sitting in bar drinking and ran into high school friend. He was on the Bonny Dick CV-31 . Drunk as skunks at 3AM I'm getting a tour of that carrier. Biggest GD thing I ever saw. Made me appreciate how simple it was to get around in submarine. They had just returned from Yankee Station off North Viet Nam.
I did 3 MEUs 00-01 on the LHA 4 Nassau 22nd MEU, 03 on the LHD 7 Iwo Jima 26th MEU, and 06 on the Iwo again 24th MEU all with the BLT. The berthing was a lot better on the LHDs(coffin racks) then the original LHAs(stacked 4 high and 16 in a cubicle). That and the LHDs took LCACs instead of LCUs.
Also, the fire on the BR was not due to anything about the hanger deck, it was in the middle of repairs when the fire broke out. This video has some interesting video but has waaaay too many mistakes for me to want to watch more.
@@kellyfrench pretty sure the fire broke out in the well deck of the BR also. The hangar deck doors on it wouldn’t have mattered one way or the other.
WHAT? The video you show, has the hanger door in the video. 🤦♂️ wow. Great research.
I was on CVN-65 and 70 and LOTS of doors.
Served on Ranger also we had doors John McVeagh Burbank ILL
The Battle of Midway confirmed the disaster when you provide a sealed environment to an explosive. A single bomb by Lt. Cdr. Richard Best destroyed the Akagi.
In fairness, wasn't the Akagi in the middle of switching out ammunition and refueling planes, thus making the hanger deck that much more of a powder keg?
Not downplaying what Dick Best accomplished, at all.
UH... the U.S.S. Franklin WASN'T lost, they put out the fires and sailed all the way back to New York. Granted her usefulness was compromised but still. Not to mention the Bonhmme Richard was NOT an America class ship, she was a Wasp class amphibious assault ship. Geez.
I served on the USS Kitty Hawk, CV 63. We had doors and in rougher seas, we had to close them, it was serious.
I was on Forrestal, we had doors
All carriers have doors on the elevators. They are heavy doors closed during emergency situations such as fire or collision at sea. I served on the Lexington CVT-16 and USS Saratoga CV-60.
The reason the Japanese aircraft carriers were so easy to sink was the closed hanger decks which trapped in gas fuel and caused a great fire hazard.
Taiho, for one.
I remember all of the times I would get to leave CIC and walk the hangar deck. Just getting fresh air at one of the waist openings. There were Smokers or boxing matches in the hangar bay. We had several bands on the ship. I bought my first guitar onboard and taught myself how to play. USS Independence CV-62 OPS OI DIV 1984 - 1986
V-3 same time
capt love sucked
The early carriers from CV-2 and onward also had doors to keep out inclement weather. They also divided the length of the hangar into two or three bays like the supercarriers.
Makes a lot of sense really and I never really thought about it other than air and faster lifting them to the deck
Would love to see more fire protection explainer videos. The way the fire crews moved fascinated me. Like, do they learn to walk with big high steps so they don't get tripped up by things on the ground? Great video! 😎
Light discipline is an important aspect of warship operation. White light is necessary for some aircraft maintenance operations. Red lights (or the newer blue lights) help preserve night vision. Low tech navies and drones can home in on lights whether they're red, white or blue. Fight ops require lighting--even if it's IR for night vision goggles.
I was on the USS Tripoli/LPH-10 from November 1977 to August 1978 as a Marine avionics tech assigned to the AIMD in support of HMM-262. The hangar deck was red light during hours of darkness to preserve night vision. There were light lockers (double doors to black-painted rooms) for hatches leading to the catwalks and other exterior access points. I was able to observe night flight ops once and the flight deck was lit up with red lights--they could have used white floods but didn't. My avionics shop was lit 24/7 with white lights--just try reading color codes under red light!
Hangar doors assist in light discipline, whether that's preserving night vision or pretending to be invisible. Passing a cruise ship off on the horizon showed me the difference.
This is a really good video. Very interesting, important and little talked about aspect of carriers.
Intro: "Why don't aircraft carriers don't have doors"
Later in the video: "Here are the non-existent doors opening and closing."
A friend of mine was a reactor operator (CVN 71) and also had damage-control duties. Since reactor-spaces were 'special' the only people who could work in those spaces and do preventative maintenance were reactor department personnel. He said that most of his DC duties ended up being cleaning and the greasing of the doors and seals.
USS Coral Sea CV-43 77-80. She had elevator and hanger bay doors
The door slides to open and close !!! 🤦🏽♀️
Served on the Ranger, Kennedy, Kitty Hawk, Vinson and they all had hangar doors. They also have a hangar fire door in the middle of the hangar to stop a fire if the front or back hangar catches on fire. The Hangar Elevator doors were only closed during really rough seas. At time index 2:30 you said "that some hangars decks can have even two or three levels if you can believe that", well I don't. I've been on multiple aircraft carrier hangar decks and all of them only had one level. I've never even hear of a 2 or 3 level hangar deck before. You really need to check your source and ask some folks who've been there and done that before just putting out these crazy stories. Thanks for sharing anyways. Best Wishes & Blessings. Keith Noneya AT1 USN/USNR-TAR Retired.
Thank you very much. I'll definitely check out the hangar doors for my next visit to USS Hornet museum.
Royal navy had fully armored flight decks during WW2. In the pacific when they were hit by kamikaze aircraft they often would simply sweep the kamikaze debris off the deck into the ocean. Seriously! Often the only damage was a slight dent and some burned marks. Check out the story of the USS ROBIN (HMS VICTORIOUS) an aircraft carrier with British crew loaned to the US NAVY during our darkest hours in the pacific. Not only did its arrival with a US flag and paint job scare the Japanese high command. They couldn't figure out why it was so much more resistant to battle damage that previous US aircraft carriers. It really had them worries the US Navy had a new class of carriers with armored flight decks.
I served on CV-62 and she definitely had hangar bay doors and elevator doors. During flight ops the elevator doors were usually open. In port they might be closed or open. Depended what port you were in.
Just leave the doors open at all time other than bad weather
I'm confused. At 0:07, 0:26, 8:43, 8:46, 8:49, 9:46, 9:49, and 17:15, you can see horizontal sliding doors to the sides of the main aircraft lift elevator. Are the carriers shown older, non nuclear carriers? Also, while I can see the weight and complexity posing risks, couldn't a 'sheet' style door be used, such as is common at grocery stores? They use an array of vertical strips to contain the cold air in refrigerated sections. A carrier could adopt a similar approach that's light, fireproof, simple, and could be quickly detached and pitched overboard if it failed during combat. They could be used to regulate air flow, air gusts, salt spray, and interior temperature better than an open door.
USS Kitty Hawk had doors. More important than that, if you look at the ship at 3:04 in THIS VIDEO, the ship shown (Nimitz class) has the hangar bay doors closed. At 8:43 in this video is a shot from inside the hangar deck and you can see the doors from the inside in the open position. Also at 8:52, on the Lincoln, you can see the doors on the extreme left of the screen, again in the open position.
I was on both west and east carriers for thirty five years and they all had very large heavy doors the closed off the hangar maitenance bay of the carrier, it would be crazy not to have them especially in high wave heavy sea weather conditions.
The carriers you display have hanger bay doors. Look to the right. They all have hanger bay door.
Because all carriers have doors, without them everything in the hangar bay would be caked in rust.
I saw the name, "Wasp," and it was gone. I couldn't find that segment of film again. It made me sad--again. Thank you for a clear and detailed report on a subject I never thought I would find so interesting.
One US Navy complaint about Royal Navy Aircraft carriers was the enclosed nature of British fully armored hanger bay. "The armoured hangar prevented the warming up of a second strike in the hangar due to a lack of vents, thus severely slowing the time between a first and second wave of a strike. "
I was on the ranger , saratoga , and midway during my 26 years in the navy and every bird farm i was on had a hanger bay door separating all three bays and it also had doors for the deck edge elevators.
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Great post ❤ but the Bismarck was a German battleship. Not a United States aircraft carrier. You are referring the sinking of the uss Yorktown and the hornet . But the hornet was sunk in the battle of midway. Yorktown was sunk in the battle of coral sea
Hornet did not participate in neither the Battle of Midway nor the Battle of Coral Sea, but she did launch Doolittle's bombers of the infamous Doolittle Raid. The Lexington was sunk at the Battle of Coral Sea. An Essex class carrier built later in the war bears the name Lexington, as well. She survived the war, becoming a training ship, well into the 1990s. The USS Yorktown was sunk at the Battle of Midway.
I'm sure he meant USS Bismark Sea, which was a WWII CVE aircraft carrier.....
I love the way they said "to protect million dollar aircraft" I'm pretty sure that the wheels alone on a modern fighter cost more than a million dollars alone
Short version. Why don't Aircraft Carriers have hangar doors? They do Have Hangar doors.
The next video is called "Why all submarines have screen doors and why they are left open".
@@krashd I’m sure you’re right !
Carriers have elevator doors. And a fire door dividing the hanger bay
I was on the USS Midway from ‘83-‘86 and always wondered why the hangar bay elevators were always open. Now I why. There weren’t any doors! Thanks for schooling me. 👌
The USS Midway has hanger bay doors: ruclips.net/video/774chLDRMTQ/видео.htmlsi=6S5IxFxMbgW0MeiH You can tell this is the Midway because the overhead (ceiling) is lower that new carriers.
@@tolson57 well, I’m just learning so much about my old ship today. I never did see them closed though
Safety is paramount in an aircraft carriers...the hangar bay doors is relatively efficient in providing protection of aircrafts and equipment from gusty winds and waves of waters in coming inside hangar bay but the downside of this is when there is hangar bay doors the tendency of confine mixtures of gases and fumes can cause fire inside of it and due to lack of ventilation as well the personnel can experience suffocation that can lead to death. Thus, the primary concern here is by not having hangar bay doors is more reliable when it comes to safety measures for the sake of aircrafts, equipments and lives of personnel.
My father served aboard the USS Ranger CVA61 AND I went aboard the USS Carl Vinson and they both had said hanger doors, so if they need to they can completely seal the ship
@3:04 the doors are closed -.-
rough seas, darken ship conditions. and more!
The only doors allowed in the Navy is Three Doors Down 🎵
@16;00 ..... Balls-o-steel! Did you see that small craft flying over the waves?!?!?! 🏴☠
Carriers do have hangar doors that slide horizontally to close. These are required for ship defense from NBC attack.
I would think one of the engineering challenges would be the speed with which they open and close. Could be critical in combat or weather conditions.
I was on a "super carrier" & the hanger doors enabled the crews to work on planes without being seen for 20 miles with all the white lights on. When nothing was happening, they'd turn on red lights to reduce being seen and open the doors to make it cooler.
yes I have! thought about these things. Gramps was a Seabee, Uncle was on the Mighty Mo, I'm a Journeyman millwright, controls Haz locations sparky, pipefitter, plumber, glazier, carpenter who wanted to become a Seabee in my mid 50's, but no, navy, or army corps of engineers never answered.
It actually shows them in this video. Several times. Not only does hangar deck have massive doors for the elevators but 2 partition doors to separate bays.
When in combat, if the frame of the carrier bends due to enemy ordnance, the hanger door will be inoperable since the door frame will likely deform. Of course ventilation would be the other benefit of no door.
Nimitz CVN 68 has hanger doors, try looking up pics of the ship at GQ
As a former sprinkler fitter of 39 years, @16:15 that was a failed test or draining down the system and the video was shot after the test
hopefully.
3 major areas. Flight deck, hanger bay, and engineering. Without engineering to make the ship go, you aren't a ship, you are a floating reef. Plus, good luck launching most combat aircraft without catapults, which are (almost) universally steam driven. So yeah, without the engineering spaces, that ship isn't anything to anybody.
In fact, i would say that the engineering spaces are the most important, as they provide power for EVERYTHING on the ship. From propulsion to electricity to steam. You can limp a carrier home without a flight deck and without a hanger. Try getting that ship back without the engineering spaces.
Wait a minute...I remember the Enterprise CVN 65, having hanger doors at the elevators when we unrepped them at sea.
Every carrier I was stationed on had both doors between the hanger bays and doors for the elevator openings.
What I want to know is have we developed an effective counter measure to the Chinese/Russian hyper-sonic missles? We cant lose any of these super-carriers if we get into a fight.
It is funny at 26 seconds on your video you clearly see the hangar bay doors on the right of the elevator opening, with the word "DOORS" warning label clearly stenciled on it. The video at 3:05 clearly shows the two hangar bay doors are closed.
Hang bays do have doors at the aircraft elevators. They are also divided into 3 seaction with blast doors between each.
At 0:07 you can clearly see the set of sliding doors on the left of that bay just by the man standing in front of that E2!!
Sand boxx!!!! Nice job 😊
All US Navy Carriers in use today have hangar doors as well as divisional doors between bays 1 & 2, and 2 & 3
Not sure what you are talking about, I served on 3 carriers and all of them had hanger doors. They also have sectional doors to separate bays.
Oh boy will you have to wait for that answer (9:50).
Please show us life of Senior NCO on board ship.Thanks so much.
This has been up for three weeks. Wow.
Hanger doors will probably become more important as drones become more common. The main problem i can see, is that they are SLOW. So they tend to be left open most of the time.
Any door has to be able to open, any Sea or Battle damage could trap the planes below deck and end the operations of the ship, making it useless....
And an enclosed explosion inside the hanger deck could flat out sink the ship in an attack....
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yes open decks are good, it allows for Diesel powered tractors and machinery to be started up, without the CO2 Hazzard as it is in a well ventilated space, also any fuel or oil spills can be washed overboard, eliminating any trapped vapours, also the jets can be test run, for maintenance, without taking space on the flight deck, also this is away from the bombs aboard, which are also brought onto the flight deck, so minimising risks of damage if something goes wrong.
When HAL takes over the running of the craft, it won' t be able to lock Dave out. "Open the pod bays door, please, HAL.
Hanger doors sound great but in battle, what happens when an explosion occurs inside the hanger? Doesn't that function as a firecracker in a teapot or exactly as a bomb would--incredible amounts of pressure resulting in a massive blow out warping bulkheads while everyone inside is reduced to 1/1000 their original size? And how many doors will be able to still open once the explosion takes place and warps all of them? Being able to open the doors allows for quick disposal over the side of anything at risk of blowing up while I would assume could only help in getting rid of poisonous or explosive gasses. I can only hope the doors are designed to very easily be blown out.
The Indy had them. I've never seen one without them.
I don't know where youre getting this information from, but I was on USS Nimitz and she had doors.
Funny in the thumbnail of the video you can see the hangar doors that are open. They have yellow and red diagonal stripes on the lower half. All most all carriers have hangar doors there just open most of the time!
The carriers built before and during WW II had rolling metal shutters to cover the openings.
I was on the Hornet CVA 12 in 1958 and there were no doors.
Don't know what info u are getting but there are most definitely doors on the side of the ship at elevator bay's. Thera also doors to divide the hanger bay into either 2 or 3 bay's for fire suppression
Short version: They have doors.
NAVY Productions. Every modern aircraft carrier and amphib ship with a flight deck and hanger bay in the USN has both Hanger Bay and Elevator doors. And you show a video of the USS Bonhomme Richard (LHD-6) sailing with it's elevator door closed. Please do at least a little research before you post inaccurate videos.
A rather quick survey of CVNs visually would show the doors. They all have them. If not, you couldn’t use the aircraft during nuclear/ weather emergencies.