Lyme Disease -- History and Current Controversies
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- Lyme disease is the most common tick-borne infection in the United States. Over the last 15 years Lyme disease has become one of the most controversial and politicized diseases in medicine with vastly different views about how to make the diagnosis and how to effectively treat patients. Richard A. Jacobs, Emeritus Professor, Division of Infectious Diseases at UCSF, reviews the historical aspects of the disease and explores the often contentious controversies surrounding diagnosis and therapy. [12/2013] [Show ID: 25794]
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I got Lyme disease from my mother.
I told myself for years that my symptoms weren't enough to justify even getting tested.
I was wrong.
Now I'm 20, and I can't stand the misinformation anymore.
I've known dozens of people who have died of Lyme disease, mainly because the symptoms were just too normal for them to take them seriously.
This video is outdated, so below are some LIFE SAVING updates:
- Lyme disease is very common
- You can be infected 15 minutes after a bite!
- Many cases don't even show severe symptoms for years
- Nearly all ticks are infected in the north east, and it is spreading
- By the time you notice the bite, the tick has likely already injected its saliva into you
- The only way to know if the tick transmitted Lyme to you, is if you bring the tick to a specialist to get tested
- Lyme specialists should always be contacted after a suspected bite, since most doctors are not Lyme-literate, and will only refer you to Lyme specialists, or dismiss it due to underestimating the risk
- There are co-infections (alternate strains) of Lyme Disease that you can get in each different tick, and each co-infection causes a different group of symptoms
- Ticks are not the only way to get Lyme disease!
- Lyme is passed through blood, so it can be passed from mother to child in utero, and can be SEXUALLY TRANSMITTED!
- Symptoms can be very hard to detect at first, and if you have any odd or mundane symptoms that don't seem related, I strongly suggest visiting a Lyme specialist. Even if you have never seen a tick on you.
- People living in the north eastern areas of the US are recommended to get tested to Lyme annually.
Those I knew who have died, or are currently receiving treatment had symptoms like these:
headaches, back pain, and they felt cold or even feverish at times. Over time, they got dizzier, and more tired and sometimes just so depressed that they couldn't motivate themselves to do everyday tasks. Others felt constantly on edge, and stressed to the point that they physically and mentally broke down.
These are all symptoms of spirochete damage. They dig into your brain and your nerves and your organ tissue. It messes with your blood flow by attacking your heart, making people feel cold, or have vision issues from low blood pressure. Spirochetes damage your ability to concentrate by attacking the brain, causing headaches that feel like pressure behind your eyes and to the back of your head. Peoples hormone regulation is thrown off, and emotions are set into constant turmoil until glands like your thyroid slowly stop working, causing weight gain.
There are many symptoms of Lyme disease, because the spirochetes could be attacking anywhere in the body.
Please realize that pain is not normally a constant. You shouldn't feel tired all the time, or have trouble going to bed or getting up. You shouldn't have to feel stressed, overwhelmed or depressed every day.
I was treated for Lyme, and it was like my life became consistently enjoyable. I still had all the same daily troubles, but they became manageable.
All I hope is that some of this information will reach someone and they will take the leap to meet with a specialist, because that was all I needed to be set on the right track. It is just so worth it.
Thank you for breaking it down. I believe my brain is toast
how did you ultimately find out? i asked to be tested for lyme and my doctor laughed at me. i live in eastern virginia
How did you treat your lyme?
Thank you for sharing but what was your treatment please explain
Love this comment t and I want to add any creature bug or animal who has saliva and has been bitten by a tick, flea or mosquito or horse fly can trasmit to human horse dog cat bird, and the cycle repeats, if we hot rid of these bugs amd parasites imagine we could stop the spread of it! Get on groups to learn about lyme disease and all the co infections that can be far worse than typical lyme. Research bebsia and bartonella which can cause people to lose their ability to deal w stress! Intrusive thoughts of suicide and rage. All because they're loaded w so much toxicity these bacteria and parasites cause when they poop, and set up shop in the vessles. If you want to know more google RUclips but know if they says it's just from ticks they either don't know and are just parroting what they've been told like the last 40 plus years, or they're lying through their teeth and probably being harassed and threatened to say so.🎉 the more you know the better. You can fix this even after years and have to have a positive outlook and drop people who don't believe in you or appreciate you. Heads up, many people will leave you if you mention lyme. They don't know enough about it and they don't care to learn amd research. And I don't know why it's like this but just be ready if you tell them you're positive for lymes weather that's based off symptoms or if miraculously a test shows a positive. They always give flase negatives.
I had a positive Lyme test, but I also had about 26 or more of symptoms. Believe me, even if your test comes back negative, it doesn't mean you don't have Lyme. Most tests available are only 50% accurate, if that much. Again, do your research.
GREAT COMMENT
Hello?...Plum Island???
Yeah, really!! Wheres the acknowledgenents of the PATENTED BIOWEAPON?? PATENTED IN 1972 , AT PLUM ISLAND, NY. UNDER NELSON ROCKEFELLER'S GUISE OF RESEARCH THERE UNDER THE U S. DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE!!
yup\
Symptoms: everything you say Lyme can't possibly be.
Doctors seen: 17, including 2 MS specialists at the Cleveland Clinic.
Blood and spinal fluid results: IgeneX positive/CDC negative for Lyme. High Mycoplasma count. Negative for everything else tested for. Which was pretty much everything we can test for including MS and Lupus.
Conclusion: My MS doc tells me I have many MS symptoms but also too many that are not associated with MS. She said there is nothing she can do for me. So the only thing I have to go on is Lyme. i have taken a month of Doxy and i am still sick. what should I do? Abandon treatment and just deal with being a shell of my former self? Assume that it is an as of yet undetectable autoimmune disorder? Who can help me?
Very confusing so much contradictory information
I’m with you. I have chronic joint and muscle pain and thought I had Lyme. I was tested and was negative, although I was slightly positive in something. I was tested again and everything came back negative. I might have some neural or autoimmune problem. I DON”T KNOW
A negative test doesnt mean Lyme isnt in you. You need to see a Lyme literate physician. Not an infectious disease doctor. At Healingwell.com you can go to the Lyme forum, they will gives you the list of closest lyme docs near you..
veronica baragona Your right, I’ve always had joint pains, tingling fingers, cold feet, and a moderate tension like, waterlogged headache, can’t concentrate to often as headache will worsen, usually persists throughout the day and night, blurry vision but not so much blurry just that the colors are bland, face tingling. I went and took two blood samples and both came back negative, Everything was good! Good cholesterol, iron levels and B12 levels were perfect as well. I am going to a neurologist soon to see if I have a anxiety disorder of some short, although I’m usually not that anxious all the time, just a little introverted. Not sure just feels like my brain is cloudy and can’t remember anything these days. Did smoke weed a while back but I do not think that was the primary cause.
I was given Biaxin 500 mg twice a day and Flagyl 500 mg twice a day 1 week on 1 week off. Really helped. I am also told I have MS. You need more than 30 days worth of treatment. Also you need a gluten free and sugar free diet. It sounds like you have lyme.
Did he really say 26 days of treatment with antibiotics to cure Lyme? Is he joking?
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I DID 30 DAYS OF INJECTIONS AND IV THERAPY. THAT WAS AFTER A YEAR OF SILVER, GARLIC OIL, OZONE, AND OTHER MODALITIES. SINCE THE NATURAL THERAPIES HELPED, THEY DIDN'T ERADICATE... TODAY I AM LYME FREE, THE ANTIBIOTIC THERAPY HELPED I AM SURE BUT THE COPPER 1 SUPPLEMENT HAS SAVED COUNTLESS LIVES. ruclips.net/video/vhZomhBgJ2s/видео.html
@@desi6870 can you please explain what you mean. I'm desperately trying to find information to help my wife. This thing is really making her sick. And I need help for her. If you know anything could you pls reply
@@TheHigherTruthRises are you well now???
Spent an hour talking about testing, but nothing about co-infections. What an expert!
Lots of bad info here!
yup
Only if you trust anecdotal evidence from random liars on the internet more than scientists who analyze the facts.
Lot's of misinformation here. He sets up strawmen after strawmen and peppers his presentation with false equivalencies. This guy seems unwilling and unable to help those suffering from Lyme.
“no disclosures” what does that mean? Bangkok-Johnnie www.pattaytoday.net
Long term antibiotics and alternative methods of healing in combination saved my life. You need to do both! Find a LLMD who uses the ILADS guidelines!
You can’t culture it out we can’t culture syphilis to this day this dr is full of it. This is the problem with the hole controversy is this guy.and why patients can’t get treated he is the problem
this man is a tool of the establishment.
I might add, a willing tool!!! It sounds mean, but I hope a lot of these guys get Lyme. I do not know of any LLMD who has not first had Lyme him or herself.
and your just a tool
Misleading and belittling of all of us who suffer from chronic Lyme and tick borne diseases.
Dude starts off appearing unbiased but as it goes on it's clear that he is against ILADS and LLMD recommendations. Shows that even those teaching the medical community are highly mistaken about the condition and use their great intelligence to convince physicians and the public across the country that they are the ones that are correct.
I remember when stories of Lyme first came out and people were told they were crazy and turned away by doctors
That’s still happening now all around the world
Still happening. Told me for 13 years it was just "stress"
interesting but what about the co-infections like babesia and others ...
Mar Ric Lyme is defined by Borrelia plus all the other nasty pathogens that you get when you (or someone you got it from) that were acquired from "nature's dirty needle." That dirty needle can be a tick, flea, lice, etc.
Etiology of Lyme leads directly to bio-warfare research and development at Plum Island, Ft Detrick and more... more of the US govs Jurassic Park gain of function adventures
The voice of sanity. Of course it’s all but lost among the people with fewer facts, but who somehow know better.
has this guy ever heard of Plum Island?
Anyone who wants to see a super educational documentary on the real issues behind Lyme disease, please watch "Under Our Skin" there are very many layers
to this condition.
People can lose their homes and jobs. This is dangerous when people live single. It will not end well without proper support. It's critical to a patients success.
I had the tick. but flushed it down the drain. I had the bullseye. I had the headache, fever, muscle/joint aches and pains, weight-loss, and fatigue, and some pretty weird dreams and daydreams. I have taken 100 mg of doxycycline twice a day for a month. I'm really a lot better. But I still have a persistent headache and fatigue. (Did I get sick or did I just get lazy?) The antibody tests were negative. It all seems pretty obvious to me, so why is my doctor reluctant to call it Lyme? This video was VERY helpful in explaining why. All the comments too. It's like Sunni and Shite. Apparently to diagnose Lyme disease you have to buy into a belief system. Call it what you will, I KNOW I was really sick.
+Joseph Graf The tests are very unreliable. Don't listen to this guy in the video. Check out ILADS and find a lyme literate physician. In the meantime, treat yourself with herbs.
Plum Island not too far away.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erich_Traub
common scenario #3, patient has lyme disease, never tested, never treated
non person So true!!! So sad!!!
The guy in this video is a joke. He failed to refute any argument against the chronic Lyme "theory" with evidence and, instead, essentially just personally attacks anyone who follows ILADS.
I thought this was an excellent presentation by Dr. Jacobs. He said something however, that I didn't understand. When asked the question of alternative medicine he said due to his beleif of the the lack of effect of antibiotics..he would welcome any herbal remedies. Did Dr. Jacobs mean the lack of effect of long term anti-biotics on treating Lyme disease? Because he seemed to believe that antibiotics were effective for periods of less than a month. Thanks, Stan
Not excellent, evil. He has no idea what it is like to have Lyme. He is a criminal sicko!
Stanley Ross, he meant any alternative herbal long term treatment if the initial month of antibiotics doesn't work on the disease
I want to be believe his good faith and think he is just an ignorant
Well He lives in California and obviously a great actor. What a better role to play than a real life one. One that makes you rich. Another great example would be the King of Ponzis Mr,. Bernanrd Madoff. We got plenty going around in Wall Street and the Lyme cover up.
Although he's making an attempt at presenting facts, he has missed so much. It's tragic he misses the facts. At least he mentions the alternative organizations who will protect the patients and offer help for Borrelia and the co-infections and he mentions other symptoms, tests etc. Please find a LLMD or ND to help you in your treatment! This guy is undermining the patients and the treatment when tests are failing patients. It's tragic! He is so clueless about biofilms and other co-infections.....the new science is at least coming out with more facts than what this guy presents. It's a shame now, honest doctors who do want to help patients are being fined and who are now afraid to help us. CHRONIC LYME DISEASE DOES EXIST!
I have not found this medical establishment to be very impressive.
for the most part , i agree. the people, if the Main Stream Medical Community will ONLY listen, will tell them all they need to know about Lyme...
This just increases the marginalization of these people who are suffering severely.
This doctor must have accepted some funding from the CDC and the IDSA - BOTH which have been found to have several board members with conflicts of interest on their boards! Most are part of Big Pharma and are heavily involved in trying to stop the LLMDs and researchers who almost always include natural remedies in their protocols! The use of “long term” antibiotics has now been reduced, I believe as this video is very old. But I DID have the “Bulls Eye Rash” but did not know what it was, and so ignored it as a weird bruise. I suddenly had weird brain symptoms, dizziness, extreme fatigue, insomnia, extreme brain fog (I previously worked for NASA in computer science and after I could barely concentrate). This was NOT IN MY HEAD! I absolutely RESENT this idiot standing up there and reciting what the CDC and IDSA have tried to tell us! Chronic Lyme IS REAL! The problem is that their science has not caught up to the disease yet! Why are their no double-blind studies on Lyme? I believe that there now have been BUT the LLMDs and researchers work on very limited funds. There is no funding from the Big Pharma (like the others get) for these studies!
Take what this guy is saying as FAKE and compromised!
Lyme, as I see it, is now transferred through bird mites, and other vectors, including bed bugs and does not necessarily show the bulls eye rash.
Who paid him to do this talk? That’s the question.
"Erosion of bone at the joint." Do they have archaeological specimens with possible borreliosis? How would you differentiate borreliosis from treponemal disease osteologically?
This is BS
49:00 There was an effective Glaxo Vaccine for Lyme disease removed for poor reasons. You may still get them for dogs, because dogs don't sue.
Jaii Raph NO NO NO they actually give dogs lyme...stay away from that people!!
I agree! NO NO NO! Dogs stay away from all people!!
Also, Lyme can be transmitted by other vectors besides the tick. Almost any insect that bites can transmit. Again, I urge you to do your own research!
you should not believe everything you read on the web. Go to your doctor and listen to him / her. psudoscience you should stay away from
Conspiracy theory is rampant...best information to date is probably here..www.cdc.gov/lyme/stats/index.html
I'm sure that's what you think, but this has not been established as fact yet.
Decretum Executionis Takes very little to convince someone who is tortured 24/7 and who cannot get treated by conventional medicine. We hate a vast majority of conventional practioners. We know FIRST hand how bad we get treated. The thing is, most of us respond to proper Lyme treatment. We just cannot get the treatment.
That's most likely because most doctor's still don't know about the HLA/DR or MTHFR gene issues. IF you have either of these, it can make it so you can't get better from Lyme.
I've heard about a new ultraviolet machine called the UVLRx that's being used for Lyme patients. It uses a fiber optic thread which is inserted directly into the vein and the treatment lasts for an hour, so all the blood is treated. Has anyone tried this?
7 years ago you ask this question. You may have found the answer, I know about this machine.. in the end it did not help me.
Lived in Old Lyme as a kid back in the '50's (remember swimming lessons at Rogers Lake)..Great little town..everybody knows Lyme disease was engineered and escaped from Plum Island...
Oilsmoke Jones Idiot lyme type symptoms have been around for centuries.
mrgetrealpeople
I might be an idiot but you seem to be having a little trouble recognizing sarcasm...anyway even we idiots know that "lyme type symptoms" applies to 100's of non lyme conditions...I prefer to trust CDC recognized cases.. www.cdc.gov/lyme/stats/index.html .. um, so if I'm an idiot where does that leave you???
Oilsmoke Jones How can he know you are sarcastic when he doesn't even know you?
Oilsmoke Jones "everybody knows Lyme disease was engineered and escaped from Plum Island"Sorry I thought you were serious.
mrgetrealpeople Doesn't matter if you think he is an idiot or not. It is true. A more viral Lyme that used to be around. Weaponized. W. Burgdorfer chased the money. He wanted fame. Even this ignorant lecturer says that. W. Burgdorfer was no humanitarian. He died just recently.
Published on Dec 9, 2013
(Visit: www.uctv.tv/) Lyme disease is the most common tick-borne infection in the United States. Over the last 15 years Lyme disease has become one of the most controversial and politicized diseases in medicine with vastly different views about how to make the diagnosis and how to effectively treat patients. Richard A. Jacobs, Emeritus Professor, Division of Infectious Diseases at UCSF, reviews the historical
To remove a tick.i put vaseline on it .leave it on 5 mins.tip the tic backwards for a while .he will let go & back out.he cant breath.
You have done some superficial research my dear and it is clear that you have focused on disproving the need for proper treatment of suffering people.
The Elisa test is highly accurate? Funny.
I know! That test is a joke, from everything I've read! Thank goodness my doc did the westerb blot, which came back positive the 1st time, not that it helped, I was already in stage 2 & only got 21 days of oral antibiotics, which didn't even begin to cure it, plus I was on prednisone at the time for bulging discs in my neck, which totally destroyed my immune system! I've been fighting this nightmare disease for 13yrs now! At least I'm lucky enough to have a positive test though, so most Dr's don't think I'm crazy, like some people who have it, but can't even get a proper test!
Reinfected different stain not chronic this dude doesn’t make any sense whatsoever
I know that VINEGAR absolutely counters the Borellia Bacteria. I feel that birds have Salmonella we have Borellia. We share the same super dense Cerebral Cortex.
Even if you look at us. We are starting to look a little like parrots.
This is so out of date. Some people never develop antibodies for various reasons. So will always test negative even though they have LD. Treatment for 1 month for late LD is also ridiculous.
Is he really an expert on the subject? Very biased in his presentation.
i cant even get treated for this and its been years after bittin i get the rare watery eyes numbness in hands and feet and i wemt too the er in ottawa, ontario CANADA and they laughfed at me i spent 18 hrs of time waiting too
Dr. Jacobs gives a great history, but some of the claims thereafter a bit spurious. The "herculean" effort in California Center for Disease Control to locate, identify, and assay for borrelia is non-sense (There is no wide spread systematic program). Out here in California you are on your own... Your own awareness is critical. Lyme literate physicians are rare. The diagnosis is still a clinical matter. So you must communicate well with your physician. When your Insurance Co. Uses the ISDA as standard, start documenting everything.
J.C. Dealy You have more LLMDs in California than Colorado or Texas. Just saying. It is difficult for LLMDs everywhere. Insurance companies usually won't pay them, and sue them, so Lyme patients suffer. CRMINAL
This just is a joke they test for one strand when there is hundreds of strands of borellia. this guy has a carrot up his bottom
I'm in the Bay Area and I saw the same thing. After a bit of research I was told that the head of the Infectious Disease Dept at UCSF is one of the most vigorous anti chronic Lyme Docs there is. I would heavily advise against going there for Lyme.
There are 4 good LLMD-LLND's in the San Francisco area.
These are replies on his website..WOW
I can totally see that in this presenters tone and lack of quality information in his presentation.
This is BS..
Thank God for ILADS!
Please....new up dated info!!!!
Now I found ticks on my dog last week while he was sleeping on my bed. I also found rashes on my leg and feet. I didn't find any ticks nor do I have a bullseye rash. They are however bite marks and they are itchy. At this point I want to know what to do in order to prevent stuff like Lyme.
kulera The things you mention about your dog is one reason I will never have pets again. However, I am already stuck with weird Lyme and have a ZERO quality life.
wkjeom what do you mean?
kulera Sorry. You said, "Now I found ticks on my dog last week while he was sleeping on my bed. I also found rashes on my leg and feet." You can get bit more than once. I already have Lyme and ZERO quality of life and can no longer get treatment. I just do not want to take the chance of getting bit again, so have no pets. I love little animals and used to nurse them all back to health when I was young. Now I am freaked out about pets. If i ever did have a pet again, it would be an indoor pet because of a much lower chance that the pet would bring infected victors into the house. You have a good day.
kulera go on a cycle of antibiotics, doxycycline right away, so you don't get lyme
Great speech!
How many Lyme disease patients have you seen\treated personnaly?
Wrote a Lyme disease brochure with the help of 2 Lyme specialists. Will email a copy to anyone interested.
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Am feeling like packing a bag and go to Dignitas
Jack Jackson So true for so many of us!
What about Oceania/ Australasia bacteria forms?
Enjoyed this presentation until he suggested that physicians who believe Lyme spirochetes can be present in a human host (eg Chronic Lyme Disease) without specific elevated serological levels predetermined to match their expected outcomes. "Because I say you have Lyme Disease" really isn't a sober and fair statement.
Big Skid Media Group That's because these specific bacteria can suppress the immune system so that it doesn't produce the antibodies that the tests look for. So if a person's immune system is suppressed, they can't get a positive test result - yet they still have the infection. There are lots of scientific papers on this if you wish to look.
+PJ Herby Goatlady Pangle source for this discovery?an llmd ass
+JaCk MeOff - your chosen screen name kind of says it all...
I have no opinion about the controversies, but the lecture was well presented and I enjoyed it.
what is the informal fallacy involving the bob dylan lyrics at 1:04:50? what no joan baez pete seeger or woody guthrie lyrics? what about llweyn davis? meer sir my sir
This guy must be on the payroll of IDSA!
In real Life it is more controverse and confusion...Two months I was so sick, my Doc. thought is Syphilis...and came neg.
I ask for Lyme test..it came pos....but the symptoms do not match the Lyme and five different Doctors said it is not Lyme
I got "doxycycline" many times did not work until now I am Lyme pos.My suffering stop after using intervene Vit.C therapy
everything else as Acupuncture, Ozone therapy ....and many similar did not work at all
My question to everybody is how baby tick get infected ,from another tick or from hot blood animal as deer, mice ...
Base in medical diagnosis is to insulate the cause..."spirochete" from sick body, in the Lyme case They do not do...but They look for antybody ...what is chemestry....and can lead to nowhere..in my case
Sorry Teacher , Do we have lyme disease by the pediculus bite ? If so , Is there any diffrences between these lyme diseases ? ( manifistaions and treat an prevention ) . Thanks .
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great video....
Currently on medication for stage one Lyme disease. As a scout I’ve known what to look for and as soon as the bulls-eye rash appeared I went to a doctor. On Doxycycline rn and have been doing better.
Well I have the dizziness - but I'm working on it - and have had some success. But I'm working on it and well let you know if can subside this....and I think I can !!!! .
Well I have the dizziness - but I'm working on it - and have had some success. But I'm working on it and well let you know if can subside this....and I think I can !!!! .
Well I have the dizziness - but I'm working on it - and have had some success. But I'm working on it and well let you know if can subside this....and I think I can !!!! .
Mr Jacobs states it is unlikely long term abx wont help. Yet to support this idea talks about studies where abx was given for 3mths, 3mths is not long-term!!!!! The LLMD's state ''measurable' change may occur after a year. So a study would need to compare the efficacy of at least 1 year of abx, ideally 2-3 years, versus 2-4 weeks.
+jaco russell will, not won't help!
Wow a documentary about PLUM ISLAND AND LAB 251,
anyone interested in lyme must see the movie/documentary "Under Our Skin" mind blowing and brilliant labor of love showing how this is widespread and killing people of all ages and runs generationally
Wise Up Yes, it can be passed. If I had known about Lyme, I would made sure all my children were treated at birth. Funny how I just read an article which says you could get MS from your mother, but not from your father. Who has the babies to pass germs? Not fathers for sure ... ... ... unless the father first passes it to the mother and then the mother passes it to the baby.
wkjeom Doctors had no idea. Seems Hulda Clarke knew more about this than anyone.
People are now waking up. The documentary "Under Our Skin" has been monumental in educating the public.
I am starting the Beck protocol, have you tried that? Lots of colloidal silver and the pulser?
Along with Banderol and Samento? Learned about those on Amazon.
Have you looked into the hyperbaric oxygen chamber? Ozone therapy?
Wise Up "Under Our Skin" shows it like it is. I do wish it would go totally viral. I've done Beck, good for making colloidal silver. In my opinion forget the Beck pulser. Probably better:www.ebay.com/itm/Mini-Zapper-Hulda-Clark-Hi-Quality-Low-Price-/351306564883?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item51cb80c513 my opinion. I would love to try IV ozone and vit c. Too expensive though. Have hyperbaric chamber, lots of stuff. Using all the holistic stuff is great. However, for me only the IV ABX while using the holistic stuff ever worked. Had my treatment jerked. Now, like most Lyme patients, have no money to do any more. CRIMINAL medical establishment.
wkjeom I did the IV ozone, you are right it is ridiculously expensive..I know a woman who did it to herself with a pic line. (Kae Hix she is on you tube with worms eating her eyes) I decided that taking the food grade hydrogen peroxide drops in distilled water is just as good and so much cheaper. I follow "flood your body with oxygen" by Ed Mc Cabe on Amazon the commenters are a wealth of knowledge. I do believe there are many ways to attack a condition. Please check it out.
Banderol and Samento also not expensive and break the cell wall. You can get better, you really can...I am here for you. Big Hug!!
wkjeom Oh I also take the liquid ivermectin from the feed store it blew plenty of junk out of me..you can do this...you need to break the biofilm...do you have a colloidal silver machine? Ionic foot bath? Bentonite clay?
Internally and externally? Our modalities have to change this stuff has intelligence...
Capitalism in America.
A lot of this is full of untruths, thank you.
There is so much misinformation here it's scary! They may mean well, but spreading this hurts instead of helps.
NO, Terry, they do NOT mean well; this info is so old, it should be removed. He obviously has never had any of these illnesses.
What a total jerk.
Dr. Horowitz would kick his ignorant ass.
Wow,a documentary on PLUM island bio warfare and LAB 257
Lab 257 book worth reading!!! Also book Bitten and book Tick Bite and MS by Bonnie Bennett.
A documentary on plum island and lab 257
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1. Go to meetup.com.
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6. Whether you can make our local meetings in person or national meetings online you can find support here.
After 50 years of excuses this is the truth.
What a damn liar. It's truly criminal.
Lyme decrease value of the property
thanks for posting - I was worried about a reddish circle around my tick bite after a day or so - watching the vid (up to about 45 minutes) I noted that the tick needs to be there for about 2 days and also that the rash takes a week to show up. thanks!
Only about half the people infected with Lyme ever get a bullseye rash.
I agree Daniel! Best of luck to you!
Not true. research further.
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Some may still be curious about why a small amount of the people have chronic Lyme and not just a simple case, I suspect there are a number of reasons why the infection could be so resilliant or recurrent. Does anyone have any ideas???
Max Howard If treated early in the disease there is a very great chance of total recovery. The longer you have it, the longer it takes to even just put it into remission.
Max Howard Lyme usually comes with co-infections such as Babesia, Bartonella, Anaplasmosis, Powassan virus (that can be transmitted in 15 minutes!), Rocky mountain Spotted Fever, etc etc etc. Antibiotics wont work unless caught early. less than 6 weeks of antibiotics wont kill a growth cycle of Berellia because they got through cycles of dormancy and growth about every 4 weeks. You can only kill the bacteria when they are growing. You also have to consider that they form cysts of bacteria and they recently discovered that they form BIOFILMS which are very hard to eradicate and medicine has a tough time getting past these cystic and biofilm barriers. As well as breaking the blood-brain barrier and getting into deep tissues where the bacteria likes to hide out and wait until the barrage of antibiotic/hostile environment is over. They also curl up into a small circular form when antibiotic are trying to find them. They are a very complex and smart bacteria. We need to do more research to find ways to beat it and we need to STOP the corrupt governing groups from preventing advancement in the technology we are trying to develop in defeating this horrible and WIDESPREAD problem. It is going to get much worse before it gets better unless we all band together and do something about it. There are more of us that there are of those holding us back. The regulating bodies are supposed to be working FOR us not AGAINST us. They know there are too many of us that is why they are lazer focus on keeping us as STUPID as they can.
This video pissed me off. They way he spoke about how an LLMD practices is completely delusional. They don't diagnose like that, they look at facts AND SYMPTOMS and TRY to test to see if anything supports their suspicions. They most definitely use SCIENCE. The reason they have to rely on labs like Igenex should be obvious. The US tests are garbage and "they" wont let us update them. The fact of the matter is; your DOG can get a more accurate test than you can.
This guy is an ASS! What kind of "professional' rips on democrats? how is this supposed to be 'educational??" I'm not a democrat but that's just completely tasteless and totally unprofessional. There wouldn't be such a contention between Lyme advocacy groups and conventional medicine if the HARD SCIENCE WERE RIGHT IN THEIR FACE!! And it is. Unfortunately they won't look at it because it might hurt their precious ego. It might prove how WRONG they are. Can't have that now can we?
kweenofrocknroll I notice they call "their" tests valid when they have 35 or so results. But they called my Lyme doctor "crazy" when he had personal results of over 2,000 tests plus the results of many other Lyme doctors. You sound as angry at the system as I am. We need a masses of people to get angry and force change. Will it ever happen? A really good post.
wkjeom It is happening. There are really strong advocacy groups out and about and all over. We just don't have the numbers we should have because not enough people are aware of what's going on. It's our duty to spread that awareness to anyone that will listen. Unfortunately too many people have blinders on and won't give a damn until its biting their own ass or affecting someone they care deeply about. There just isn't enough information getting to where it needs to be.
At this point in time, almost everyone knows someone who has or had Lyme. There are more affected than they even know because it is so frequently misdiagnosed as other diseases because Lyme and the co-infections is/are "The Great Imitator". I wonder how many people are thinking their life is over because they have been diagnosed with MS, fibromyalgia, Altzheimers, Parkinson's, ALS, Chronic Fatigue, etc etc?? If we had accurate testing, I can guarantee those numbers would go way down and Lyme numbers would go way up and would be more accurate. 300,000 people a year get it and most have no idea what it is or that they even have it. I'm LUCKY I knew I was bitten and noticed a barely recognizable rash. Our doctors are either afraid to tackle it because they will have to go before the corrupt Boards of Medicine for doing so too often (at the behest of insurance companies who don't want the expense) OR they are clueless or pigheaded and don't want to know the truth. If they DO know and ignore it, it's a DIRECT violation of the OATH they took to become a doctor!!
Yes I am angry and disgusted with so many things. But this one is personal. I've just started learning about Lyme and I've been blown off by my PCP I had for over 15 years and my new PCP was just as much of a dick as the last one. The PA at my former PCP's office was the stupid pusshole who didn't treat me properly when I initially got bitten by ticks after camping in July 2013 and now I'm screwed. I should have demanded proper treatment and advocated for myself more over the past year and 1/2 when all these strange symptoms started popping up but I was naive back then and believed they knew better than I did about Lyme and I BELIEVED their stupid inadequate initial test. Now I'm fighting a system with other plans and way more power than the few of us trying to make change against a system governed by M O N E Y and not caring at all about making people get well. Healthcare is the biggest scam in the world and the biggest money maker in our country and I can't fight that alone. Not enough people are aware of that. Most people trust that others can take care of us and know what's best for us. When did we get so lazy and stupid? When are more people going to catch on the what is really going on around them? When professional sports and reality TV goes away????
This nation (and others) is in for a seriously rude wake up call because the tick population is exploding and they are infected with MULTIPLE bacteria and viruses and parasites. Birds and deer are carrying it EVERYWHERE! How long are they going to ignore THAT???? Is ignoring that even possible when it is affecting over 300,000 people a year?? If we had accurate tests, it would be impossible to ignore. That's why accurate testing is NOT ALLOWED here. Then we would want to know why it has been growing into pandemic status since the 80's and getting worse every year. They made a HUGE mistake bringing that sicko Nazi Traub over here and giving him vectors to play around with. They obviously know that now OR they did it on purpose. This is most certainly NOT a free country. Anyone who thinks so is delusional. Truth spreads like a virus, too you know. More people need to get some of it and let it take it's course! Pass it on ;)
kweenofrocknroll Another really good article. You sound like me, except I've known I had Lyme for over 17 years. I had it many years before that. I had one really good conventional hematologist/oncologist. I was so fortunate. He facilitated the treatment I had for 4-5 years. He took doctor orders from my LLMDs. It was my last LLMD that failed me. He has Lyme himself, and I watched him go from depending so heavily on his nurses because he could not function himself, to becoming very well. However, he justified himself stopping my treatment by calling me what he gets called by most conventional medicine. They called him crazy, and when he felt threatened by conventional medicine, he called me crazy and stopped my treatment. I was disheartened, lost my job and my insurance. I got so sick. I must say I now feel hopeless. I cannot see any way to get treatment so am having to go through torture 24/7. When my LLMD dropped my treatment, my hematologist/oncologist told me to find another doctor but none were around. So really it was my LLMD who put me in the situation I now find myself and for the last six years. falling, falling falling, falling, ... ... ... ... ... with no bottom in site. Without a lot of money a Lyme patient does not have a chance. You know it is polite to "suffer silently." I think "suffering silently," is immoral, and sinful. I admire Yolanda Foster so much for telling the total truth about what she is going through and doing all she can to stand up for Lyme patients. I do so much want to see her get well. I know it is hurting her career for not "suffering silently." I think she is depending too much on holistic medicine. Lyme (and all its infections acquired by nature's "dirty needle") is very debilitating, and kills. It took me over a year on ABX to begin to feel "normal." I did all the holistic things I could in addition to the ABX. I do wish the whole world did not have to get Lyme before it gets the attention it needs. I think Ebola is much like Lyme, we no longer hear about it, but it is still killing. I sit back and really cannot wrap my brain around what I am going through, and have gone through, and realize there are so very many of us out there. The thing is, it is not necessary for us to suffer so. There is successful treatment for us, if we could only get it. The fake researches, are dependent on us being sick to get their big fat salaries. Willy Burgdorfer was one of those fake researchers. The guy giving the lecture is a FAKE doctor, FAKE educator, who actively mis-educates as many people as he can. Lyme absolutely is not just Bb. As long as they make M O N E Y, fat salaries, from our being ill, we will not see treatment for those who need it. God bless.
Excellent presentation: Good info
Outstanding Presentation.
Most people infected with the poliovirus don't even get symptoms. No one knows why but many people died from it also. I think the case is the same with Lyme where it could be specific to a person's DNA. Some people get acute Lyme Disease while others become chronic.
I think what he says sounds more sensible than giving the same thing for a long time.
It sounds as if these "want to be doctors" giving patients antibiotics for months / years are those who want to make money. When antibiotics are used too much makes many bacteria resistant. The again if you take antibiotics for too short time is as bad.Take a pill mentality in the world will make the bacteria will wipe us out in the near future if we continue as we do now. Hope all who are sick get better soon Peace
Niklas Steen I was tortured 24/7 for 4 years before I had ABX number one. I did not even know what was causing the torture that first 4 years. It was usdescribable! ONLY the IV ABX and accompanying treatment every gave me any relief.
Good for you! I hope you are ok today
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Niklas Steen I am not OK. My treatment was taken away. The result was almost immediate relapse.