@@oabd13 you're saying Casemiro conspired to give away 2 goals deliberately against our biggest rivals just to get a manager sacked and the proof of this was that he scored 2 goals against a worse team in the league cup a couple of months later. How could I possibly argue with that logic?
As a neutral fan, I’m annoyed how little praise is given to the De Ligt and Mazraoui signings. Both very composed and fitted right in, but its lost amongst the chaos to united’s start.
@@MaxDangVu they've only been here 5 minutes during a time where united are 14th. They were praised during their first couple of appearances but since then their performances have been mixed. Like everyone's.
@@MajorMumwett I disagree. Mazraoui hasn't put a foot wrong all season and been so smart and technical in his play. De Ligt been brilliant as well and no signs of him being inconsistent. Maybe the Porto game but Martinez was terrible in that game also. Ugarte has been unfairly hammered for no reason other than frustration of how badly we have started the season. He's looked world class against Fenerbache and Leicester and I'm sick of people questioning his passing as if he's just another Fred. He is class and only 23. Yoro a world class talent. Only Zirkzee looks like a bad fit doesn't look like scoring a goal ever which is a terrible sign but lets see what happens. He will be easy to sell to a Serie A club at least.
@@satarmezher6244 not sure what you're expecting. They've played less than 15 games and united have only won 4. The club has just sacked the manager because the team has been so poor. Nobody has stood out as playing brilliant and no one is criticising Mazraoui or De Ligt. Don't expect them to be praised when the team has performed so badly.
While I think Antony is shite and Amad is a better player, its funny to see them say Amads goal against Liverpool is a reason to keep him and "Antony hasnt done anything in the last 18 months" despite scoring an important goal on the same game. I like Amad and think he should play more, but I wouldn't be surprised if he doesnt light up the league after a run of games.
Yep I'm not quite sure where that idea of him not playing is a bad thing on him it's not his fault he performs everytime he plays but ten hag spent 90 million on that brazillian clown so I feel l8ke he was forced to give him game time over amad
Don't get me wrong but If you're going to talk about the importance of the amad goal vs Liverpool you have to talk about the importance of Antony's goal vs Liverpool too if it wasn't for that goal we don't even get extra time
@@scottsinner7530 well, he was the only united player to win a Premier League player of the month last season. He isn't first choice anymore and I honestly can't remember the last time he played badly. I'm glad he's still at the club. I don't give a toss about memes or Howson's opinion. I judge him by what I see.
@@MajorMumwettWhat determines a good player? By that right anyone playing professionally is a good player. In my opinion I think Maguires only attribute is his heading and yet he barely scores headers.
Rashford gets rid of managers for fun. The reason why they won't let rashford go is because they bias to people who not only come from the academy but to players who are local lads. So no matter how shit rashford is u will never hear him being held accountable the way let's say an anthony would be.
Joe throwing shade at Amad because Ten Hag didn't rate him! Ten Hag is the man who thought Antony was worth 80 million quid, I wouldn't trust his judgement of players!
His formations at Sporting don't use wingers. I'm concerned therefore, that he'll want to sell Garnacho and Amad. I hope I'm wrong because they're talents we should be keeping.
He does, they just become inside forwards which is perfect for Garnacho and Amad because they can link up. He’s used wingers as wing backs too so Garnacho could easily fit there
@@sethtrollins4202, he could but then, that's assuming that a) he rates Garnacho and Amad as inside forwards and b) that either or both have the defensive qualities that he will want in wing backs.
@@tolkienfan10 His wing backs aren't particularly great defenders; just bodies in that position really. They are far more important to the attacking unit.
Dalot was just as patient and sacrificed even more to be able to play for United than Dialo. Dalot produced the goods. He was United's player of the season last year. Dialo is a baller, but he's also a whole lot of unfulfilled promises.
Jay and Joe must be deluded to still make a case for Rashford in Nov 2024 lol! He just turned 27 and he’ll never reach his much-hyped peak. He can’t just be in the club for the odd “moments” he can produce. He gets paid 300k a week ffs! Look beyond your sentimental bs and the blatant Manc/English bias! We don’t want politician players or PR merchants in our club anymore. Rashford is done at Man United.
Bro wants to sell Amad when he scored in his debut for united at 19, became player of the year for sunderland scoring and assisting, and when he returned to united, Ten Hag benches him, so we don't get to see what he's really capable of. He really needs a run of games to see what he can actually do but we did see glimpses of his talent. We need that kind of player in our team.
I do want Ruben Amorim as manager but there is too many players that wouldn’t suit Ruben Amorim system at the club. So another big clear out for next season. He doesn’t play wingers he players with 2 CAMs, He plays with 3 CBs and doesn’t play with full backs he uses a right mid and left mid
Said this in another comment. Our attackers don’t want to play like wingers either so they’ll be fine and Garnacho could even be a wing back if we want to be mega attacking
@@leemassey24 Have you not learnt that allowing managers to bring in "there" players to the PL is a mistake. We wouldn't look at those two players if it wasn't for the new manager. Any good CB can change to a 3, its more difficult going from a 3 to a 2.
@@leemassey24If we’re getting anyone it’d 100% be Gyokeres for me and Hjulmand possibly. But there’s some solid CB’s out there, and I do believe he’ll enjoy working with Kukonki too
Joe do you know what a manager favourite is? Your critcism of amad can be reversed, by your logic anthony is worth a new contract because the manager picked him a lot. Rashford was awful for 15 months and was picked every week. We've seen players like salah be rejected at top clubs for whatever reason. The best player dont always picked and sometimes dont even get opportunities to get into the team. Humans are bias...
People keep talking about his 343 system as though it's 5 defenders. He plays with 4 traditional wingers, his "wingbacks" are both midfield wingers, his 10's are wingers. His version of 433 is incredibly attacking.
I don't know if he'll stick with the 3-4-2-1 but it's quite likely given the success he's had. I like the fact that he mostly uses hardworking wingers in the fullback position. I'm no tactician but it makes Sporting exciting to watch.
Agree with SH on just about everything. There should be a follow up video that shows which teams are going to be able to, or even want to be able to afford the wages of these players in relation to their quality that are in the sell column. That would be cracking if it could be accomplished but don't see it happening.
46:00 After a new deal is he? 😂😂 I'd keep Rashford. I want him to lift the Premier League title. First academy graduate to win the league for Man United in a long time. He deserves it. Hopefully, Amorim plays him in his preferred position on the left wing. As for Garnacho, for me at best he's a squad player unless he improves his decision making in the final third. However, if Real Madrid want him for £100 million, I'll drive him to the airport myself. I dont believe he is worth that but Garnacho fan boys would let you believe otherwise.
Sounds to me that Amorin is another "system' Manager, just like Pep. They have a set 'system' , never deviate from it and go after only players that fit their 'system'. When United were at their best, they never had a 'system', they never went after players that fit their system, they found players that fit their needs. Case in point, when United lost their title to City on Goal difference, SAF went out and got someone who would score goals. Robin Van Persie. He never worried if he was great at hold up play, whether he was good with his back to goal, or if his pressing was up to speed or if he could drop deep and bring people into play, etc, etc. He knew RVP could score goals and that's what United NEEDED. So , again United have gone after a 'system' guy who will force players to play his 'system' instead of a Carlo Ancelotti type who plays the best system to fit his guys. That's what Ineo should have considered with their next hire. It seems to me that this move is the same as the move for ETH in the first place. He couldn't get this group to play Ten Hag ball, whatever that is and he didn't have the coaching mantle to figure out the best way to play to get the best out of his players. Wonder if Amorin is more Pep or Carlo?
Is he good enough? Do you really trigger the clause in his contract & extend for one more year paying him 190k per week to sit on the bench? Release him. Invest in young CB on 50k
Ste I think you are very knowledgeable about football and definitely a lot more than me, but I totally disagree that we were better against West Ham than Leicester. West Ham we were dominant but wasteful in the first half, poor until their goal where we kicked on, then unlucky in the end mixed with not urgent enough. I’m never going to get carried away because it’s United but we were much more dominant (without being as dominant possession based) against Leicester. Please could you elaborate why you think we were better against West Ham?
I don’t quite get the opinions on Dalot. Fella was our player of the season last year - this year he’s been stuck at left back.. Is Mazraoui great? Yep. Did we really need him? Not as much as we need a LB.
5:00 conte and tuchel got success from 3 at the back , lvg tried playing 3 at the back in his first season and didn’t have the right centre backs to play it (Blackett rojo McNair etc). No one cares what formation we play we just want to see improvements on the pitch
Onana absolutely is a problem. He is fine most of the time when the shots in his arm span but his diving form is poor which kills his spring and that stunts his reach. Even this season where he has made less howlers a number of the goals he has conceded other keepers would have atleast got a glove on them and he gets no where near. He also has what I call jelly arms, the best keepers will have strong arms which allows them to divert the ball powerfully out of the danger zone, all too often we see Onana get no control on the save and it will limply drop back into the damager area. He just technically isn't good enough, even if you want a ball playing keeper he has to atleast be solid in the basic of a keeper and he just isn't. And its not even as if its a TAA situation where a player is just so effective in other areas of the game that you can forgive being weak at the core elements of that role, his distribution just hasn't been to the level where you can forgive his keeping issues, maybe if he was playing players in with amazing balls a few times a match you could but he isn't doing that
@@steve0ization it is actually doable when you consider the savings on wages alone. Four are out of contract (Evans, Maguire, Lindelof, Eriksen) already saving of £25m
Look at all the people that have been defending Ten Hag all come out in the comments to blame the players. So predictable. Unfortunately the players were behind ten hag throughtout, trying to play a flawed gameplan every match. It was the manager's stubborn refusal to admit his tactics were terrible and would never work. Everybody could see it since the wolves game on the first day of last season. Accept it.
i don’t see why you’re so keen on getting rid of mount. he doesn’t have a long term history of injuries so he’s just been unlucky, if he leaves and performs at another club we’ll be kicking ourselves for letting him go
I’d break down to: people who are just taking the pay cheque, troublemakers and people that down suit style. Shaw, Antony , malcia. Maguire, rashford, zerksi,mount.
Are you guys not concerned about the lack of wingers been watching United since 1985 and you talk about the United way for me it’s developing young players and counter attacking football with flamboyant wingers. For me a big part of the problems is trying to play out from the back and replicating tiki taka. The press conferences I’ve seen I like his personality but concerned about no wingers
But thats not what we have been doing at all.. we have never played tiki taka, and playing out from the back, how is that a problem? We have been playing direct, high press, low defensive line. What do our wingers get us rn? Garnacho 9-10 goals max per season, Rash same, Amad 2-3, Antony 0. Thats best case scenario. Reality more like 3-5 from Rashy & Garnacho. We dont have any elite wingers.
Joe is off his rocker even questioning Diallo… 18months of the 4 years he’s been here he’s been on loans and one of those he absolutely teared up the championship as a 19 for Sunderland… we signed him wen he was 18 what does Joe expect from him wen Tan Hag never really liked him and give him a chance
It’s a shame that Joe and Jay have such low standards for Rashford. It’s says a lot about where he’s at with his football. I think it’s better for him that he moves on
Luke shores got to go straight away cuz he's never there. And as for wingers I'd like wingers that come up with assists not just out for himself. Can't have your wingers shoot him more than you forward and if they're not doing nothing but set themselves up all the time. It's no good. Didn't see the likes of gigs and Beckham just doing that did you?
Not rocket science atleast 10 of this squad need told to do one, primarily Maguire Lindelof Shaw Dalot Rashford Bruno who have been here year after year and been a part/leaders of this vile culture that’s been built.
@@luckyboi1183 Name one strength he has got other running around Anyway it’s all academic whether he is a good footballer or not He has been mostly been injured for 2 years if you include his last year at Chelsea .He is finished as footballer in the top flight just accept pal need to move him Tired of these injury prone players hindering our progress
Joe wants to keep mount because we haven’t seen him and then wants to sell amad because we haven’t seen him 🤣🤣🤣 it’s so obvious the manager kept playing Antony because he spent the money on him and if he genuinely thinks we should sell amad before mason mount then he needs to give his head a wobble
I feel like we've done this video 5/6 times in the last two years
And soon the Man Utd players will plan the down fall of Ruben 💔😭
@@LeaoK2it was the manager. Not the players.
@@MajorMumwettyou sure about that? Cause the same casemiro gave away 2 goals to liverpool scores from outside the box😂
@@oabd13 you're saying Casemiro conspired to give away 2 goals deliberately against our biggest rivals just to get a manager sacked and the proof of this was that he scored 2 goals against a worse team in the league cup a couple of months later.
How could I possibly argue with that logic?
@@MajorMumwett ofc the players are at fault as well. Did your watch literally ANY game this season? 😂
As a neutral fan, I’m annoyed how little praise is given to the De Ligt and Mazraoui signings. Both very composed and fitted right in, but its lost amongst the chaos to united’s start.
@@MaxDangVu they've only been here 5 minutes during a time where united are 14th. They were praised during their first couple of appearances but since then their performances have been mixed. Like everyone's.
@@MajorMumwett I disagree. Mazraoui hasn't put a foot wrong all season and been so smart and technical in his play. De Ligt been brilliant as well and no signs of him being inconsistent. Maybe the Porto game but Martinez was terrible in that game also. Ugarte has been unfairly hammered for no reason other than frustration of how badly we have started the season. He's looked world class against Fenerbache and Leicester and I'm sick of people questioning his passing as if he's just another Fred. He is class and only 23. Yoro a world class talent. Only Zirkzee looks like a bad fit doesn't look like scoring a goal ever which is a terrible sign but lets see what happens. He will be easy to sell to a Serie A club at least.
@@satarmezher6244 not sure what you're expecting. They've played less than 15 games and united have only won 4. The club has just sacked the manager because the team has been so poor. Nobody has stood out as playing brilliant and no one is criticising Mazraoui or De Ligt. Don't expect them to be praised when the team has performed so badly.
@@MajorMumwett had 5 or 6 clean sheets
While I think Antony is shite and Amad is a better player, its funny to see them say Amads goal against Liverpool is a reason to keep him and "Antony hasnt done anything in the last 18 months" despite scoring an important goal on the same game. I like Amad and think he should play more, but I wouldn't be surprised if he doesnt light up the league after a run of games.
And so it begins
The Portuguese Inquisition 😩
Incredible 😅😅@@robbiekop7
It never ended.
I agree with Ste. Looking at the xG, Erik can still turn this around.
Here we go again😂
Rashford gonna scrore 25 goals this season and then get Amorim sacked next season 😂
Been here like 5 times before
@@snapper993 L L L L L L L
@@ThisIsMyRodrick yeah next season, maybe season after… it’s all a matter of time
Keep mainoo, everyone else can go
Joe ‘s obsession and criticism of Amad is weird
The fact he argued keeping Mount and selling Amad is utter bonkers
He is actually a bit of a clown
He doesn't know football....it's obvious on every upload
Joe has no idea about football
Yep I'm not quite sure where that idea of him not playing is a bad thing on him it's not his fault he performs everytime he plays but ten hag spent 90 million on that brazillian clown so I feel l8ke he was forced to give him game time over amad
Don't get me wrong but If you're going to talk about the importance of the amad goal vs Liverpool you have to talk about the importance of Antony's goal vs Liverpool too if it wasn't for that goal we don't even get extra time
The Bruno goal ⚽ from his own half set the tone for that win
Spot on, and i dont lie antony at all
@@robbiekop7Different game. That was the league fixture we drew 2-2.
They never will critique a player who comes from.the academy oppose to an actual transfer . They can never see things from a objective point of view
Rashford free pass again 😂🤡🤡
He'll go at some point surely, he personifies the post Fergie era
@@ste4392he will go when he’s 31
@harismujkanovic2327 oh good
They might wise up if he’s gets another 2 managers sacked
I'm shocked, I tell you, shocked.
Joe and Jay are obsessed with trying to make people think Maguire is a good player 😂
@@joecassie4975 he is a good player. Not world class but definitely good.
It's embarrassing at this point 😂
@@MajorMumwetthe’s good. But he’s not good enough.
@@scottsinner7530 well, he was the only united player to win a Premier League player of the month last season. He isn't first choice anymore and I honestly can't remember the last time he played badly. I'm glad he's still at the club. I don't give a toss about memes or Howson's opinion. I judge him by what I see.
@@MajorMumwettWhat determines a good player? By that right anyone playing professionally is a good player. In my opinion I think Maguires only attribute is his heading and yet he barely scores headers.
Get rid anyone who can't stay fit for 5 games in a row
@@Jamiestanlee471 that leaves us Bruno and Onana lol
@MajorMumwett exactly lol
@@MajorMumwettGarnacho and Dalot too.
@@Adamwhite-e9d true. To be fair Rashford doesn't get injured very often either. Over 400 games by 26 years old is incredible.
@@MajorMumwett Very true indeed, though the argument stands that he hardly exerts himself in games over the last couple of seasons.
The decision to keep Rashford is crazy! He's not inconsistent - he's consistently rubbish. Anything we get for him would be a bonus.
Rashford gets rid of managers for fun. The reason why they won't let rashford go is because they bias to people who not only come from the academy but to players who are local lads.
So no matter how shit rashford is u will never hear him being held accountable the way let's say an anthony would be.
You're mental. Rashford is mint.
I really don’t like when Ste is like that. I rather when he’s calm and a bit more rational
Joe throwing shade at Amad because Ten Hag didn't rate him! Ten Hag is the man who thought Antony was worth 80 million quid, I wouldn't trust his judgement of players!
Joe will fight tooth and nail for Maguire yet has a problem with amad is all the evidence I need that he’s related 😂🤣🤯🤯
His formations at Sporting don't use wingers. I'm concerned therefore, that he'll want to sell Garnacho and Amad. I hope I'm wrong because they're talents we should be keeping.
He does, they just become inside forwards which is perfect for Garnacho and Amad because they can link up. He’s used wingers as wing backs too so Garnacho could easily fit there
@@sethtrollins4202, he could but then, that's assuming that a) he rates Garnacho and Amad as inside forwards and b) that either or both have the defensive qualities that he will want in wing backs.
but if they don't fit in the system - why keep them? Maybe they can play as wingbacks?
@@tolkienfan10 they don't get into any other top 4 team
@@tolkienfan10 His wing backs aren't particularly great defenders; just bodies in that position really. They are far more important to the attacking unit.
Dalot was just as patient and sacrificed even more to be able to play for United than Dialo. Dalot produced the goods. He was United's player of the season last year. Dialo is a baller, but he's also a whole lot of unfulfilled promises.
“ I don’t he did fuck it let him go”absolutely fucking classic
Jay and Joe must be deluded to still make a case for Rashford in Nov 2024 lol! He just turned 27 and he’ll never reach his much-hyped peak. He can’t just be in the club for the odd “moments” he can produce. He gets paid 300k a week ffs! Look beyond your sentimental bs and the blatant Manc/English bias! We don’t want politician players or PR merchants in our club anymore. Rashford is done at Man United.
Bro wants to sell Amad when he scored in his debut for united at 19, became player of the year for sunderland scoring and assisting, and when he returned to united, Ten Hag benches him, so we don't get to see what he's really capable of. He really needs a run of games to see what he can actually do but we did see glimpses of his talent. We need that kind of player in our team.
"player of the year for sunderland"
Good interview with Welbeck on Sky we shouldn't have got rid LVG 😡
I did this with ya'll , one disagree on one choice but also put in my options to buy.
Keep and Buy ? in-between ? :
Gk: Onana / Vitek / Heaton
Defense: CB Yoro / De Ligt / Evans / Martinez / Shaw / ? Hato ?
Midfield: WB Dalot / Mazroui / Amass / ? F. Parisi ?
CDM/CM Ugarte / ? Hjulmand ? / Collyer / Mainoo / Eriksen
Forwards: CAM Amad / Bruno / ? Wirtz ? / Rash / Gnacho
ST Hoijlund / Zirks / ? Ferguson ?
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My picks :
Jorrel Hato -LCB / Fabiano Parisi - LWB / Morten Hjulmand / Florian Wirtz / Evan Ferguson
Other Options:
LCB - Castello Lukeba / Nico Schlotterbeck / Jarrad Branthwaite
LWB - Luca Netz / Adrien Truffert / Quentin Merlin
CDM/CM - Nico Gonzalez / Nicolò Rovella / Martín Zubimendi
ST - Benjamin Sesko / Viktor Gyökeres
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Sell:
Bayindir
Linds
Malacia
Cass
Mount
Antony
For the wages, we need more from Rashford.
Pay doesn’t equate to goals son
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@ no he’s long gone pal
@@onefortheroad1 I can't tell if you're agreeing or not 😂
Been waiting all day for off the bar, always a fun one
I do want Ruben Amorim as manager but there is too many players that wouldn’t suit Ruben Amorim system at the club. So another big clear out for next season.
He doesn’t play wingers he players with 2 CAMs, He plays with 3 CBs and doesn’t play with full backs he uses a right mid and left mid
Said this in another comment. Our attackers don’t want to play like wingers either so they’ll be fine and Garnacho could even be a wing back if we want to be mega attacking
@ I’d like us too sign diomande or inacio for centre back either one. Probs summer tho not January coming up. We need 1 more centre back
@@leemassey24 Have you not learnt that allowing managers to bring in "there" players to the PL is a mistake. We wouldn't look at those two players if it wasn't for the new manager. Any good CB can change to a 3, its more difficult going from a 3 to a 2.
@@leemassey24If we’re getting anyone it’d 100% be Gyokeres for me and Hjulmand possibly. But there’s some solid CB’s out there, and I do believe he’ll enjoy working with Kukonki too
@@sethtrollins4202 fucking hell yea definitely need a striker. Need someone whose gonna get goals
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When the moon hits your eye like a big pizza pie, that's Amorim!!!!
😂😂😂 Songs right themselves. . . 😂
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Joe do you know what a manager favourite is?
Your critcism of amad can be reversed, by your logic anthony is worth a new contract because the manager picked him a lot. Rashford was awful for 15 months and was picked every week. We've seen players like salah be rejected at top clubs for whatever reason. The best player dont always picked and sometimes dont even get opportunities to get into the team. Humans are bias...
Alvaro Fernandez is an option at LB
Joe and Jay are obviously too comfortable with us being shit for so long. it shows..
As an American who was an adult during the Clinton era, I can confirm that impression is absolutely mint!
People keep talking about his 343 system as though it's 5 defenders. He plays with 4 traditional wingers, his "wingbacks" are both midfield wingers, his 10's are wingers.
His version of 433 is incredibly attacking.
I know Antony is shit, but I think he could legit make a half decent lwb
Why ?.
Because he can’t defend. He’s small. No bravery at all. Is tiny. Has no end product.
Rashford is a sell! Sell!!! SELL!!
I don't know if he'll stick with the 3-4-2-1 but it's quite likely given the success he's had. I like the fact that he mostly uses hardworking wingers in the fullback position. I'm no tactician but it makes Sporting exciting to watch.
Keep: Mainoo, Garnacho, Amad
Loan: Hojlund, Yoro, Zirkzee
Sell: Everyone else.
Agree with SH on just about everything. There should be a follow up video that shows which teams are going to be able to, or even want to be able to afford the wages of these players in relation to their quality that are in the sell column. That would be cracking if it could be accomplished but don't see it happening.
Garnacho should be benched under Ruben until he learns how to be composed on the ball e.g Yamal settings.
Yamal settings ..no pressure then
Joe said Amad never did anything other than Liverpool. Had an absolutely class goal against ac Milan too under ole. A goal that won us the tie.
46:00
After a new deal is he? 😂😂
I'd keep Rashford. I want him to lift the Premier League title. First academy graduate to win the league for Man United in a long time. He deserves it.
Hopefully, Amorim plays him in his preferred position on the left wing.
As for Garnacho, for me at best he's a squad player unless he improves his decision making in the final third.
However, if Real Madrid want him for £100 million, I'll drive him to the airport myself. I dont believe he is worth that but Garnacho fan boys would let you believe otherwise.
You're up for a rude awakening. Take care
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Litterally Ste or Jay every third sentence “Imagine Roy Keane..” 😂 Standards. Love it!
Sounds to me that Amorin is another "system' Manager, just like Pep. They have a set 'system' , never deviate from it and go after only players that fit their 'system'. When United were at their best, they never had a 'system', they never went after players that fit their system, they found players that fit their needs. Case in point, when United lost their title to City on Goal difference, SAF went out and got someone who would score goals. Robin Van Persie. He never worried if he was great at hold up play, whether he was good with his back to goal, or if his pressing was up to speed or if he could drop deep and bring people into play, etc, etc. He knew RVP could score goals and that's what United NEEDED.
So , again United have gone after a 'system' guy who will force players to play his 'system' instead of a Carlo Ancelotti type who plays the best system to fit his guys. That's what Ineo should have considered with their next hire. It seems to me that this move is the same as the move for ETH in the first place. He couldn't get this group to play Ten Hag ball, whatever that is and he didn't have the coaching mantle to figure out the best way to play to get the best out of his players. Wonder if Amorin is more Pep or Carlo?
Harry M has the right attitude
But wrong attributes
@davidellinsworth3299 at least he gives a fuck
Is he good enough? Do you really trigger the clause in his contract & extend for one more year paying him 190k per week to sit on the bench? Release him. Invest in young CB on 50k
You know what, mate. Maguire's attitude makes me fume. His social media posts make me want to puke.
Ste I think you are very knowledgeable about football and definitely a lot more than me, but I totally disagree that we were better against West Ham than Leicester. West Ham we were dominant but wasteful in the first half, poor until their goal where we kicked on, then unlucky in the end mixed with not urgent enough. I’m never going to get carried away because it’s United but we were much more dominant (without being as dominant possession based) against Leicester. Please could you elaborate why you think we were better against West Ham?
I don’t quite get the opinions on Dalot. Fella was our player of the season last year - this year he’s been stuck at left back.. Is Mazraoui great? Yep. Did we really need him? Not as much as we need a LB.
Love Utd but I don’t want this club ruin another yes another good manger If I was him stay at sporting
5:00 conte and tuchel got success from 3 at the back , lvg tried playing 3 at the back in his first season and didn’t have the right centre backs to play it (Blackett rojo McNair etc). No one cares what formation we play we just want to see improvements on the pitch
Lost me at keep Harry McGuire
No they did not 😮
Got arguably the best mentality in the entire squad. Unironically.
@@RaffaDeee mentality and athletic ability of a donkey. He CAN'T play out from the back
You cannot have Maguire on £190k/week on the bench. Better to sign prospect on £50k
Onana absolutely is a problem. He is fine most of the time when the shots in his arm span but his diving form is poor which kills his spring and that stunts his reach. Even this season where he has made less howlers a number of the goals he has conceded other keepers would have atleast got a glove on them and he gets no where near. He also has what I call jelly arms, the best keepers will have strong arms which allows them to divert the ball powerfully out of the danger zone, all too often we see Onana get no control on the save and it will limply drop back into the damager area. He just technically isn't good enough, even if you want a ball playing keeper he has to atleast be solid in the basic of a keeper and he just isn't. And its not even as if its a TAA situation where a player is just so effective in other areas of the game that you can forgive being weak at the core elements of that role, his distribution just hasn't been to the level where you can forgive his keeping issues, maybe if he was playing players in with amazing balls a few times a match you could but he isn't doing that
Questioning Amad and Kobbie but sticking up for Mount is an interesting opinion.
I heard so many different pronunciations of Amorim, I don’t know what’s the right one anymore😂
I have the same last name. It’s 50/50 how it’s pronounced. I say it Amor-um. But I know other who say Amo-rim
It's tamarind
The Amo is silent.
Let go:
Evans, Maguire, Lindelof, Shaw, Malacia, Casemiro, Eriksen, Fernandes, Mount, Antony.
Sign:
A.Fernandez, Kerkez, G.Ignacio, Frimpong, Rigg, Nypam, Sesko.
Sigh if only FFP allowed us, would take multiple transfer windows
@@steve0ization it is actually doable when you consider the savings on wages alone. Four are out of contract (Evans, Maguire, Lindelof, Eriksen) already saving of £25m
if Mount went to Liverpool he'd be a star. If he'd gone to Arsenal or City he'd be a star.
Maguire and Evans keep 😂😂
Ste when Joe said "he's on a 6 year deal" 🤦♂️🤣
Sell/Release:
Shaw, Dalot, Lindelof, Evans, Malacia, Eriksen, Casemiro, Antony.
Last straw:
Mount
Look at all the people that have been defending Ten Hag all come out in the comments to blame the players.
So predictable. Unfortunately the players were behind ten hag throughtout, trying to play a flawed gameplan every match. It was the manager's stubborn refusal to admit his tactics were terrible and would never work. Everybody could see it since the wolves game on the first day of last season. Accept it.
i don’t see why you’re so keen on getting rid of mount. he doesn’t have a long term history of injuries so he’s just been unlucky, if he leaves and performs at another club we’ll be kicking ourselves for letting him go
I’d break down to: people who are just taking the pay cheque, troublemakers and people that down suit style. Shaw, Antony , malcia. Maguire, rashford, zerksi,mount.
I was thinking too good to be true that you guys got this far and no swearing from Howson then he did abd even had Jay doing it too.😮
12:27 It's got to be Nuno "Menj" and Amass for me.
Giving a 32 year old Maguire a new contract is just dumb, we need fast and very good on the ball CBs.
The like of Joe are the reason why we end up with martial for that long
100%
How does that even make sense and how did you get anyone to agree with this, y’all are missed
@@dillondavis-tirado7181 watch the video carefully, read my point again and digest it then maybe you’ll understand why most people agree to the point
Are you guys not concerned about the lack of wingers been watching United since 1985 and you talk about the United way for me it’s developing young players and counter attacking football with flamboyant wingers. For me a big part of the problems is trying to play out from the back and replicating tiki taka. The press conferences I’ve seen I like his personality but concerned about no wingers
But thats not what we have been doing at all.. we have never played tiki taka, and playing out from the back, how is that a problem?
We have been playing direct, high press, low defensive line.
What do our wingers get us rn? Garnacho 9-10 goals max per season, Rash same, Amad 2-3, Antony 0. Thats best case scenario.
Reality more like 3-5 from Rashy & Garnacho.
We dont have any elite wingers.
We have no left back,
instead of signing someone.
Isn’t it easier to hire a new manager and change formation
Not necessarily to this video but my thoughts on the channel:
Jay and Joe the dream . Jay and Ste kills Jay as Ste dominates. Keep Joe forever.
Keep or we're fighting😂😂that's why I love ste
Joe is off his rocker even questioning Diallo… 18months of the 4 years he’s been here he’s been on loans and one of those he absolutely teared up the championship as a 19 for Sunderland… we signed him wen he was 18 what does Joe expect from him wen Tan Hag never really liked him and give him a chance
Amad just isn’t that good. He’s small. Doesn’t have pace. Very little attacking output.
Squad player ... at best
3-4-3 can work in the Premier league. Conte won the title. And Nuno, at Wolves, had two 7th place finishes in a row.
I think the Palace manager plays a 343, no? At least he did last spring, and they were really cooking for a while. This season, not so much…..
It’s a shame that Joe and Jay have such low standards for Rashford. It’s says a lot about where he’s at with his football. I think it’s better for him that he moves on
How do you talk long term yet keep Evans? you want to play him till 45?
Luke shores got to go straight away cuz he's never there. And as for wingers I'd like wingers that come up with assists not just out for himself. Can't have your wingers shoot him more than you forward and if they're not doing nothing but set themselves up all the time. It's no good. Didn't see the likes of gigs and Beckham just doing that did you?
Seriously would like Ste to do a whole episode as Bill Clinton 😂
I like these keep or sell vids,
great stream boys
8:10 Sell Micah Rashford, Larry Shaw, Barry Maguire, Vincent Lidleloff and Phil James
Nobody:
Paddock: “Keep or sell vid?”
Just is Bearded Rub's Red and White Army ❤
Not rocket science atleast 10 of this squad need told to do one, primarily Maguire Lindelof Shaw Dalot Rashford Bruno who have been here year after year and been a part/leaders of this vile culture that’s been built.
Bruno has to go obviously, being our best player isn’t enough.
😂muppets
Love how you all defended EtH and in the same breath would keep 10 of your current starting xi
Your standards are in the toilet
I get the Manager had to go! But can the players who can’t cut it regardless of who the manager is go too!
Like who
It’s bad when our current Dutchmen scores goals on there open games 😊😊
Joes a proper weirdo for that Amad stuff. Especially if you compare it to his takes on other players
He’s biased towards English players
Joe’s footballing opinion is pure garbage , man
Imagine the reception the gaffer is going to get at anfield after turning them down…
He'll get the exact same reception as any other United manager
Sell lindelof but keep maguire is literallyyyyy insanity
Punt em all
Pound for pound does Maguire turn faster than a super tanker
Ste looks like a new man
J.O.B.L.E.S.S & Useless Speculation is back.
Idle Mind used to be A Devil's Workshop
Now It is A Football RUclipsr's channel. 👋🏼🤣
Keep them all and add Gyokeres.
Joe’s comments on Amad is very Souness-ish.
Ste is not the oracle,,he knows wht we do
Mount shouldn’t be sold. He’s been really unlucky. He will start under Amorim. He works hard and is quality on the ball. Give him time.
@@luckyboi1183
He is a headless chicken and not actually excel at anything
@ you don’t win player of the year twice at Chelsea if your not a good player
@@luckyboi1183
Name one strength he has got other running around
Anyway it’s all academic whether he is a good footballer or not
He has been mostly been injured for 2 years if you include his last year at Chelsea .He is finished as footballer in the top flight just accept pal need to move him
Tired of these injury prone players hindering our progress
@ I am as well but for £60 million I think it’s too early to cut our losses. I think we give him until end of season
17:25 Maguire really please stop it
Joe wants to keep mount because we haven’t seen him and then wants to sell amad because we haven’t seen him 🤣🤣🤣 it’s so obvious the manager kept playing Antony because he spent the money on him and if he genuinely thinks we should sell amad before mason mount then he needs to give his head a wobble
This has Jorge Mendes’s fingerprints all over it 👀
Didn’t we have this video 3 months ago 😂
Sorry joe but your take on Amad is WILD. No hyperbole I think he can turn into a Salah level player for us over the next couple seasons.
lol insane opinion. Amad is very average
Haha, Joe's opinion is the wild one here?
Keep Erickson for back up, do these guys not know what subs are?
Eriksen is on big wages. Utd will sign Rigg, Nypam in January & combined will be on half of Eriksen wages! Time for youth.
Looking trim Ste