There is case law protecting users from prosecution that came from pirate radio. The FCC wasn't able to go after pirate radio operators out of their jurisdiction and they tried to go after the end users and the courts held that as long as you don't store, save, re-transmit, distribute or financially profit from the illegal content, you are a passive user and cannot be held liable. The way they went after end users in the Napster days was because people were storing and sharing the copyrighted content. The government can go after box sellers because they are financially profiting from the distribution of pirated content.
Yeah, all of these sticks and boxes are legal, but you watching something you are not legally paying for is the part that’s illegal. But nobody’s enforcing it.
Most of the ones that I have seen are simply Android computers with an HDMI and USB ports. It is entirely possible to use them legally, and they really aren't worse than a knock-off phone. They are basically giving your monitor smart TV capability. It's all mainly in the apps that you use. NOW, one thing I have been wondering about is the issue & legality surrounding using a VPN's location feature to access content from other locations. It seems like countless legitimate content creators with VPN's as their sponsor, specifically mention this use case as the primary selling point. I don't want to cause anyone any trouble, but would that be considered "grey" or risky? Just wondering. Perhaps, it's less gray than it seems, since I often hear the feature pitched in adverts.
There's also the difference between downloading something and streaming something. Those people that charge you money for 1500 channels on a Firestick And charge a monthly fee makes it seem to the user that they're paying for contact therefore there isn't a problem. But the problem is just because you're paying for it doesn't mean the person that's offering the IPTV service is paying for it so if he shuts down everybody who has an account shots down any gonna get your money back. So if it was me, I'd use a Firestick and enable a couple third party apps or If you know how to use Kodi, that's the only app you need.
Looking back to the Audio/Video dubbing for personal use was legal, if you are rebroadcasting, seems to me is where the problems hit....like several on RUclips rebroadcasting Live/Sports without a license is the biggie....
Is the vsee elite box still your top pick for 2024? I read where the elite apps were having issues. I’m new to this streaming box stuff, and I’m very confused on which one to purchase. Any help greatly appreciated.
Why are people paying crazy prices for these junk boxes. They are junk lots of buffering and horrible customer support. I have had probably every streaming box on the market and i cant stand these units. I finally got one that is a android tv or Google Tv box with the voice search and the apps they use are none of that KODI stuff. It has worked great for years. I did not have to pay $400 for it either. StreamOne Media is the company
Lots of semantics and rationalizations here. The primary reason people buy these boxes is to engage in theft of service. The short answer to, "is it legal?" is: NO. If you are using the box for it's intended purpose you are in violation of copyright law. Understand that going in. The authorities are probably not going to come for an end user...but they could.
I am a total technological nerd so excuse my ignorance. I currently have an older vseemax and vsee pro1 as well as a roku with fubo and youtubetv record every major sports event plus all horse racing and boxing. My questions are is it worthwhile for me to upgrade to a newer vsee box pro3 + elite etc? What would the benefits be? Also for live games exclusive to Peacock Amazon Apple etc I was told that the elite will show them but the vsee pro and plus will not is this correct? Thanks
NO, if your happy with these boxes don't upgrade. You would need to check thier website on what channels they offer as RUclips doesn't like it done here!
What is it? You started by saying "are these boxes legal"? What are the boxes? Do they provide media, I am assuming? Do they hook to a tv? Or a computer? This video was in my recommendations. I have no clue what exactly the subject matter is. I have an inkling...sure would have been nice to tell me exactly what it was at the beginning of the video. It was frustrating, so I stopped watching.
Sorry you didn't get that, it's right in the opening while I am holding the Superbox and saying these fully loaded boxes. I will try to be more clearer in future videos
use a vpn. and if u have virgin, u dont get msg for downloading, like horrible rogers does. no vpn needed, with virgin) i download from websites and torrent all the time.
so, are the apps that come with the box legal to use? ie: BlueTV or Blue VOD on the SuperBox? I watched the video, but I am still unsure. Obviously it would be illegal to get a free PPV or something, but what about watching like the history channel, or sports games? It's all kind of confusing. What I found through some research is that it is legal if it is used for personal, non-commercial use. I just don't know how accurate that is, and I want to make sure I am not breaking the law
Not being a lawyer, I can only say that if you are getting free what others have to pay for it might not be legal. If you would like to be sure in your area just contact your local Attorney general office for clearification.
I have no idea if this is legal or illegal.. yes I'm an American citizen.. who now is the Philippines for the past 11 years.. and yes I see these boxes available in many different parts of the country of the Philippines.. Oh well have a good day..
Linus tech tips made a video about how these boxes leave open ports in your network, doesn't mean you'll get hacked but does leave open the ports for ppl to get into the network and snoop on what you're doing or info getting enter on wifi
@@HitzEmUp LT Good isn't he, If I remember they found one box with the back door, I have tested many, many boxes for this and have not found any other then two cloned boxes ordered through Aliexpress (in which they have been removed) it is unfortunate and usually the backdoor would come in later on 3rd party apps updates since you already gave permissions to the initial app installed.
I have never found one that was, and we test each one before using. Not to say buying a fake box may have the backdoor but they are few and far between
Considering those boxes are their own creation, it fits in the gray area. If you modify equipment THEY provide, that falls into a piracy box. Copyright laws have more to do with broadcasting their channels to others. And less to do with a user watching something. There is no way for them to find out WHO is using those boxes. If you own a bar, and use FREE PPV fights to get people inside you are in trouble. I know a bar owner that got caught using FREE Tyson fights to pack his bar. He got a $50,000 fine. Plus made them pay per each seat inside his bar to the PPV company. Ended up costing him over $150 grand. Just watching one of these in your home, doesn't break any laws at all. Just don't stream what you are watching and you are good to go.
Even a high-quality VPN can slow down your internet speed, although typically not significantly. Here's why: Encryption: VPNs encrypt your internet traffic to protect your privacy. While strong encryption is essential for security, it adds processing overhead, which can slightly slow down your connection. Server Distance: If you connect to a VPN server that's far away from your physical location, the increased distance can lead to higher latency. This can cause noticeable delays, especially when streaming high-quality video or playing online games. Server Load: Even with a reputable VPN provider, server load can impact performance. If a particular server is heavily used, it may become congested, leading to slower speeds for all connected users. Try changing locations. Internet Service Provider (ISP) Throttling: In some cases, a VPN can actually improve your internet speed by preventing your ISP from throttling your connection. This is because your ISP can't easily identify the type of traffic you're using when it's encrypted by a VPN. Even if it's slower it usually is a more stable connection especially if your ISP maybe throttling you without you knowing it. They do this often more for streamers.
Your explanation of legality is a little off, content cannot be legal or illegal, if I have the right to watch something, say I own a particular dvd, it is legal to watch that content via any source. This is why it’s so hard to enforce because they must prove you don’t have the right to watch something.
@@LatitudeSky I’d love to see a court back your position. There’s a concept called ‘time shifting’, this example would broadly fall under this concept.
I always see people brag on Facebook and other sites about paying nothing or very little for almost unlimited access to any content. I always ask if they would walk into Walgreens and just take what they want w/o paying? I rarely ever get a reply other than people saying they were tired of the high fees from cable companies. You can make that argument with anything tho but I guess since they are not stealing something tangible it’s ok to them. Amazing.
Yes... yes they would go into Walgreens and just take what they want to without paying.,.happens everyday here in San Francisco, Baltimore, Philadelphia....
i pay for everything, but internet tv. lol sorry but i dont have 150.00 for basic cable with nothing on them, but news and weather, all with 4 min commercials, and 2 min airing of the show.. i haven't paid for cable in over 15 yrs.. and not sorry!! and there are free movie apps that are legal, out there.. more and more are showing up, u just need to know where to look.
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There is case law protecting users from prosecution that came from pirate radio. The FCC wasn't able to go after pirate radio operators out of their jurisdiction and they tried to go after the end users and the courts held that as long as you don't store, save, re-transmit, distribute or financially profit from the illegal content, you are a passive user and cannot be held liable.
The way they went after end users in the Napster days was because people were storing and sharing the copyrighted content.
The government can go after box sellers because they are financially profiting from the distribution of pirated content.
I sure appreciate you joining in here and the input, it means a lot to me that you would take the time to watch my video!
I cut the cord on comcast best thing I did Bought a vSee Box I'm enjoying it
Thats sad that you think thats a good box. Its crap. They charge way to much and they are junk
Vsee is horrible just buffering and more buffering.
Maybe you have horrible internet 📶
It's probably because you're watching unauthorized services
Just use a VPN
These boxes have been around for 7 years that I know of. If there was an issue with them, they would have been gone a long time ago.
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Thank you for turning me on to these. Ive been bootlegging things off websites. This will make it easier.
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It's been a while since you have streamed a video which is the best live TV android box can let us know which is the best thanks
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Good info. I understand it is such a ‘Touchy’ complicated subject. Good expaination. Thx 👍
I am lucky I live in texas no issues here
Yeah, all of these sticks and boxes are legal, but you watching something you are not legally paying for is the part that’s illegal. But nobody’s enforcing it.
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Dish started to take down illegal services
Most of the ones that I have seen are simply Android computers with an HDMI and USB ports. It is entirely possible to use them legally, and they really aren't worse than a knock-off phone. They are basically giving your monitor smart TV capability. It's all mainly in the apps that you use. NOW, one thing I have been wondering about is the issue & legality surrounding using a VPN's location feature to access content from other locations. It seems like countless legitimate content creators with VPN's as their sponsor, specifically mention this use case as the primary selling point. I don't want to cause anyone any trouble, but would that be considered "grey" or risky? Just wondering. Perhaps, it's less gray than it seems, since I often hear the feature pitched in adverts.
With VPN it's only against their Policy as I am told to change country to gain access to blacked out media
It all depends on where you live different laws in different states
There's also the difference between downloading something and streaming something.
Those people that charge you money for 1500 channels on a Firestick And charge a monthly fee makes it seem to the user that they're paying for contact therefore there isn't a problem. But the problem is just because you're paying for it doesn't mean the person that's offering the IPTV service is paying for it so if he shuts down everybody who has an account shots down any gonna get your money back.
So if it was me, I'd use a Firestick and enable a couple third party apps or If you know how to use Kodi, that's the only app you need.
Thanks for the input, we appreciate it! Keep em coming!
What box do you prefer or would you purchase ?
As far as this type of box it would be the vSee V3 Pro
Over the v3 plus???
@@CouchPotatoCafe cool you have a video on it because that’s what I want to purchase ?
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Looking back to the Audio/Video dubbing for personal use was legal, if you are rebroadcasting, seems to me is where the problems hit....like several on RUclips rebroadcasting Live/Sports without a license is the biggie....
Very good point, thanks for the share!
How do u use a vpn? Is it on ur box or on ur phone? Don’t understand that part of it
A VPN is on each device which I do but you can install on some routers to mask everything on you wifi system
Is the vsee elite box still your top pick for 2024? I read where the elite apps were having issues. I’m new to this streaming box stuff, and I’m very confused on which one to purchase. Any help greatly appreciated.
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Why are people paying crazy prices for these junk boxes. They are junk lots of buffering and horrible customer support. I have had probably every streaming box on the market and i cant stand these units. I finally got one that is a android tv or Google Tv box with the voice search and the apps they use are none of that KODI stuff. It has worked great for years. I did not have to pay $400 for it either. StreamOne Media is the company
Lots of semantics and rationalizations here. The primary reason people buy these boxes is to engage in theft of service. The short answer to, "is it legal?" is: NO. If you are using the box for it's intended purpose you are in violation of copyright law. Understand that going in. The authorities are probably not going to come for an end user...but they could.
Thanks for watching I appreciate it!
I am a total technological nerd so excuse my ignorance. I currently have an older vseemax and vsee pro1 as well as a roku with fubo and youtubetv record every major sports event plus all horse racing and boxing.
My questions are is it worthwhile for me to upgrade to a newer vsee box pro3 + elite etc? What would the benefits be? Also for live games exclusive to Peacock Amazon Apple etc I was told that the elite will show them but the vsee pro and plus will not is this correct? Thanks
NO, if your happy with these boxes don't upgrade. You would need to check thier website on what channels they offer as RUclips doesn't like it done here!
Who pays for satellite or crappy cable anymore 🤣🤣🤣
There are a ton that still do! LOL
Have you had a chance to review the Vseebox V3 plus box yet?
It's the same as the V3 pro except they added app that I didn't think it was worth any hype
What is it? You started by saying "are these boxes legal"? What are the boxes? Do they provide media, I am assuming? Do they hook to a tv? Or a computer? This video was in my recommendations. I have no clue what exactly the subject matter is. I have an inkling...sure would have been nice to tell me exactly what it was at the beginning of the video. It was frustrating, so I stopped watching.
Sorry you didn't get that, it's right in the opening while I am holding the Superbox and saying these fully loaded boxes. I will try to be more clearer in future videos
if u already have box, then u know what he's saying..lol how did u get to this page? LOL
@@cuetTimmonz LOL RUclips recommended it to me LOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOL
@@claycassin8437 No worries, just let me know if I can help
In your opinion what is the best box on the market right now?
As of right now I lean this way: ruclips.net/video/Ic2QO-7cQiw/видео.html
In my case I'm using Nvidia shield
Thank you for this information 😊
in canada says streaming is ok but not downloads so is there laws about streaming anything on line just don't download?
I haven't read or heard anything like that for Canada.
use a vpn. and if u have virgin, u dont get msg for downloading, like horrible rogers does. no vpn needed, with virgin) i download from websites and torrent all the time.
@@cuetTimmonz Thanks for the input
Where is SuperBox based at? Are they located in China?
They are made in China, but I believe the servers are not
They sell Superbox S4 Pro at Walmart, so it IS legal.
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When in doubt, illegal.
so, are the apps that come with the box legal to use? ie: BlueTV or Blue VOD on the SuperBox? I watched the video, but I am still unsure. Obviously it would be illegal to get a free PPV or something, but what about watching like the history channel, or sports games? It's all kind of confusing. What I found through some research is that it is legal if it is used for personal, non-commercial use. I just don't know how accurate that is, and I want to make sure I am not breaking the law
Not being a lawyer, I can only say that if you are getting free what others have to pay for it might not be legal. If you would like to be sure in your area just contact your local Attorney general office for clearification.
Of course these boxes are legal. Its what you put on it that's questionable.
I have no idea if this is legal or illegal.. yes I'm an American citizen.. who now is the Philippines for the past 11 years.. and yes I see these boxes available in many different parts of the country of the Philippines.. Oh well have a good day..
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💪😎👍You are the best thanks for the information and orientation ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
I appreciate that!
Hey is the super box still worth still buying??? Or any for that matter?
Sure but as I said it's up to the user to open up the apps on their own
@@CouchPotatoCafe yeah not to worry about the tv police
Linus tech tips made a video about how these boxes leave open ports in your network, doesn't mean you'll get hacked but does leave open the ports for ppl to get into the network and snoop on what you're doing or info getting enter on wifi
@@HitzEmUp LT Good isn't he, If I remember they found one box with the back door, I have tested many, many boxes for this and have not found any other then two cloned boxes ordered through Aliexpress (in which they have been removed) it is unfortunate and usually the backdoor would come in later on 3rd party apps updates since you already gave permissions to the initial app installed.
Is super box safe? Does it contain malware or backdoor? If I use superbox will it steal my passwords or banking ?
I have never found one that was, and we test each one before using. Not to say buying a fake box may have the backdoor but they are few and far between
That avengers poster on the wall could be a copy right violation .........
Thanks Fred, I appreciate the input!
I can not believe anyone cares about tv service,we connected our TV to you tube 8 years ago,and never looked back.
how do i make an account
More information is needed Spidey! What account are you talking about? Also nice RUclips channel, hope others here will take a look at it!
@@CouchPotatoCafe for blutv and thank you
Only buy official Android boxes. There's a reason it says official
What about preloaded apps from a guy in his garage?
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Pretty much not legal!
Considering those boxes are their own creation, it fits in the gray area. If you modify equipment THEY provide, that falls into a piracy box. Copyright laws have more to do with broadcasting their channels to others. And less to do with a user watching something. There is no way for them to find out WHO is using those boxes. If you own a bar, and use FREE PPV fights to get people inside you are in trouble. I know a bar owner that got caught using FREE Tyson fights to pack his bar. He got a $50,000 fine. Plus made them pay per each seat inside his bar to the PPV company. Ended up costing him over $150 grand. Just watching one of these in your home, doesn't break any laws at all. Just don't stream what you are watching and you are good to go.
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Awesome yup
VPN’s slow down my streaming, why???
Even a high-quality VPN can slow down your internet speed, although typically not significantly. Here's why:
Encryption: VPNs encrypt your internet traffic to protect your privacy. While strong encryption is essential for security, it adds processing overhead, which can slightly slow down your connection.
Server Distance: If you connect to a VPN server that's far away from your physical location, the increased distance can lead to higher latency. This can cause noticeable delays, especially when streaming high-quality video or playing online games.
Server Load: Even with a reputable VPN provider, server load can impact performance. If a particular server is heavily used, it may become congested, leading to slower speeds for all connected users. Try changing locations.
Internet Service Provider (ISP) Throttling: In some cases, a VPN can actually improve your internet speed by preventing your ISP from throttling your connection. This is because your ISP can't easily identify the type of traffic you're using when it's encrypted by a VPN.
Even if it's slower it usually is a more stable connection especially if your ISP maybe throttling you without you knowing it. They do this often more for streamers.
Your explanation of legality is a little off, content cannot be legal or illegal, if I have the right to watch something, say I own a particular dvd, it is legal to watch that content via any source. This is why it’s so hard to enforce because they must prove you don’t have the right to watch something.
That's incorrect. The end user gains no rights to other forms of the same content. Don't kid yourself.
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@@LatitudeSky I’d love to see a court back your position. There’s a concept called ‘time shifting’, this example would broadly fall under this concept.
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Soooo....your car is legal to own...you going 100 in it is not legal...who knew?
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just make it simple .......
Sorry I thought I did, I 'll try to do better
Are the super boxes legal?
Did you watch the video?
@@CouchPotatoCafe I thought some boxes were different , just wanted to make sure
@@darrengrantham8975 No worries, Yes boxes are legal, but the majority of programming is not
Ant news on the missing apps ??
vSeebox is the only one that brought back the elite apps
Uzzu... then cast to TV. Done
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But I'm a nice guy!
@@CouchPotatoCafe lol just kidding
@@Sam_Blakley LOL me too!
I always see people brag on Facebook and other sites about paying nothing or very little for almost unlimited access to any content. I always ask if they would walk into Walgreens and just take what they want w/o paying? I rarely ever get a reply other than people saying they were tired of the high fees from cable companies. You can make that argument with anything tho but I guess since they are not stealing something tangible it’s ok to them. Amazing.
Yes... yes they would go into Walgreens and just take what they want to without paying.,.happens everyday here in San Francisco, Baltimore, Philadelphia....
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i pay for everything, but internet tv. lol sorry but i dont have 150.00 for basic cable with nothing on them, but news and weather, all with 4 min commercials, and 2 min airing of the show.. i haven't paid for cable in over 15 yrs.. and not sorry!! and there are free movie apps that are legal, out there.. more and more are showing up, u just need to know where to look.
So u don't mind paying 120$for cable huh. It's tv. Shouldn't be that expensive but it is
@@dmo848 you can use that argument on anything. So you’re good with shoplifting?
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Legal......not legal???.........who fffkn cares!!!!!!!!
LOL, thanks for the input Bruce!
A lot of words no information
Alrighty, thanks for watching anyways
Don't know what's so funny dude??
Sometimes I just think funny thoughts I guess.
Is your conscience getting to you?
No
My conscience is clear, always have been.
@@CraigRamage-t7e I am not paying the likes of CNN that I don't want.
@@CouchPotatoCafe depends on what u smoke..... lol.
It's people like you, that didn't need to be born
Hello @CouchPotatoCafe Are the Elite apps done forever at this point?
As of right now Vseebox is the only ones that have them, I think they will go away in the future and box makers will come up with their own addons