Hey, this gold sheen sapphire looks alot like a cross between labradorite and 🐅 tigers eye. The facet cut stones are okay but because of all the streaks in the stone, the cabachons are just gorgeous and seem to almost glow, I need a gold sheen sapphire in my life.😝
Glad to see a new video from you. I have just recently taken an interest in mineral mining/cutting and found your channel. You make wonderful quality videos and I really like the support you show for the workers on the front line. Thanks for the quality content!
Interesting story you have submitted Mr. Charles Lawson. The gentleman that first recognized that this form of corundum could be so effectively presented is a credit to his good self and to his time invested in both the semi-precious gemstone aspect, as well as the more valuable fine cut faceted traditional jewel quality gemstones. (Diamonds, Beryllium, et al, along with very rare forms of specific hardness facet-cuttable jewel stones. Did you know that Australia's first entry into the international sapphire jewelry market had their quality demeaned because they were harder to facet than the traditional sapphires being marketed in those times past. An interesting hypothesis that the 'moh hardness scale' could accept Australia's sapphires being superior in hardness to figure 9 that he had designated to corundum per his hardness scale.
Reminiscent of smudgy bronze asterism, available from North Carolina to China. More readily available than transparent corundum, although I would suppose one location has it's own specific idiosyncrasies.
Yeah, it is the inclusions that make this variety unique and so far it is just the one mining area in Kenya that has been able to produce this hematite/ilmenite rich variety in any significant quantity, at least to the point where the GIA has classed it as a new type of sapphire :)
If they didn't say that this was gold sheen sapphire I'd bet the farm that it was labradorite. Honestly as an admirer of gems and not educated in them I would never buy gold sheen sapphire it looks too similar to labradorite and would be afraid I would be easily fooled into buying labradorite pieces at gold sheen sapphire prices by dishonest merchants. So I would avoid it all together. In fact I'm so skeptical I'd be more willing to believe that this some large scale conspiracy by the gemology world to get precious gem dollars for semi precious gems.
Haha nothing wrong with being skeptical. In this case, seeing as institutions like the Gemological Association of America, the Gemmological Association of Great Britain, the French Gemological Association and more have all confirmed this as a new variety of sapphire I think we can rest easy ;)
@@Lawsongems There are so many semi precious gems out there that look like precious gems is there any way to really tell that I'm not being taken for a ride. I feel like the only way to really be sure is to do some kind of chemical test. How would one even go about that? Maybe I'm just not that trusting.
Funnily enough it is the relatively small amount of rutile and the very large amounts of illemenite and chromite that prompted labs like GIA to classify it as a separate variety of sapphire :)
Have there been any other colours found? The ones displayed all seem to have a blueish background, but as sapphires come in all colours I was wondering if more had been found. Specifically as ruby(or "pink" sapphire) is closely related I'm wondering if red or pink has been found? ofc I do realise that just because they're basically the same mineral, doesn't mean that the formation of the gold sheen asterism is also gonna be conducive to the formation of pink/red stones as well, not to mention that ruby is the rarest corundum colour. That would be stunning en cabochon I think tho, if they were to be found.
+catz Keet There is a bit of blue and yellow material found but when these colours are obvious there is usually a lack of the sheen effect. That said you may have noticed in one of the shots there was a yellow that had been cut with half clear yellow and half gold sheen, so though there is a little bit of material with other colours it is usually cut to show a multicoloured stone.
Hey Charles! I just found your video now because I visited Tanzim's stand a moment ago. He's a great human being, with some incredible stones. I might get an article together about it, and embed your video. Is that cool? :)
Beautiful gemstones!! They actually remind me of rutile quartz except the rods inside look different in color; not gold or black but kind of silver. I wander what the Moh's scale render their hardness level to be? I would love to add to my small collection of gems.
I've never seen anything like it. I've heard that some Star Sapphires can be black with inclusions of Hematite. This must be what I've read in a book called, "The complete illustrated guide to minerals, rocks, and fossils". It was written by John Farndon and Steve Parker.
It is a very unique variety of sapphire, black star sapphire is predominantly included with hematite and rutile, what makes this variety different, in short, is that the colour and star is caused by a combination of ilmenite, hematite and magnetite, at least enough to the point that bodies such as the GIA and the Gemmological Association of Great Britain have classed it as a new variety haha :P
Part way through at the beginning of the section showing the cutting process there are number of large pieces shown. From what I have seen it does not tend to form nicely formed crystals very often.
Wow! Gorgeous...Very dangerous part of the world- that should hopefully drive the price up, esp. if no other veins are found... just an observation- those are good working conditions? Really? Because it's dry rather than wet? I'm sure it could be ALOT worse. No OSHA out there!
When a new stone, gem or mineral is identified, do archeologists ever get as excited as the geologists and gemologists, and try to see if stone artifacts ever have or was made with said stones?
@@Lawsongems Could make for an interesting video topic, on the simple fact that new minerals don't literally form over night, but takes millions of years to form.
That is exactly correct. We pay for jewellery, clothes, cars, houses, music/art and every other item or process in our lives that involve any amount of style, fashion or popularity at a price higher than their actual value simply because our society attaches value to them. I do not need to buy a nice pear of jeans to wear but it definitely beats wearing a utilitarian hessian sack that would do the same job =P
It reminds me alittle of laboradite, it has it's great differences of course- but has that irridecent quality that laboradite is so popular for. How interesting & special to find that rare quality in sapphire...
The main difference would be that generally the term "chocolate sapphire" is simply used to describe a brown sapphire, where gold sheen is referring to a specific variety of sapphire. So potentially if you had a particularly brown, gold sheen sapphire, you could call it a "chocolate gold sheen sapphire" :)
It is actually high amounts of hematite and ilmenite that are the cause of the effect (rutile and magnetite may also be present in small amounts) and it is due to this unique combination of minerals instead of the usual suspect, rutile, that it has been classed as a new variety.
Yep the hardness is the same, it is essentially a new variety of sapphire, but with large amounts of ilmenite and hematite present where as with the more common varieties of sapphire it is almost always rutile that is present :)
The majority of the material is quite opaque or translucent at best (some have transparent sections) because of this most are cut as either cabochon or rose cut. This both shows off the optical effect the best and gives the best face up to weight ratio, if they are faceted there would be a lot of weight sitting underneath in the pavilion of the stone that does not add to the apparent beauty of the stone. However some are occasionally faceted in a full cut but this is a bit more of a novelty in most cases.
It is similar but not quite the same, the inclusions causing the sheen effect are differdent to regular black star sappphire and the body colour in gold sheen can vary from black to blue to yellow.
As there is tight control on the supply of this new stone the rough is not available I am afraid but it can be cut to pretty much any shape/style you are looking for. However if you want to shoot me through an email I can look into whether or not procuring rough would be possible at all in the future for you support@lawsongems.com
Yeah for sure, labradorite is far far cheaper than gold sheen sapphire. However there is no doubt this is sapphire, you would have to prove the Gemological Institute of America wrong to say it isn't haha!
Hey, this gold sheen sapphire looks alot like a cross between labradorite and 🐅 tigers eye. The facet cut stones are okay but because of all the streaks in the stone, the cabachons are just gorgeous and seem to almost glow, I need a gold sheen sapphire in my life.😝
I was literally thinking the exact same thing. LOL XD
Glad to see a new video from you. I have just recently taken an interest in mineral mining/cutting and found your channel. You make wonderful quality videos and I really like the support you show for the workers on the front line. Thanks for the quality content!
Thanks for the kind words :)
Gorgeous! It's like a labradorite and tigers eye married and had a baby. How exciting it must have been to discover it.
Haha for sure, discovering must have been pretty cool, even better when it got recognition from the big labs as a new variety.
Lovely it looks so extraterrestrial almost like cut, and polished meteorite.
Interesting story you have submitted Mr. Charles Lawson. The gentleman that first recognized that this form of corundum could be so effectively presented is a credit to his good self and to his time invested in both the semi-precious gemstone aspect, as well as the more valuable fine cut faceted traditional jewel quality gemstones. (Diamonds, Beryllium, et al, along with very rare forms of specific hardness facet-cuttable jewel stones.
Did you know that Australia's first entry into the international sapphire jewelry market had their quality demeaned because they were harder to facet than the traditional sapphires being marketed in those times past.
An interesting hypothesis that the 'moh hardness scale' could accept Australia's sapphires being superior in hardness to figure 9 that he had designated to corundum per his hardness scale.
An interesting point you have
tks so much !! 👍👍👍
Those stones are beautiful. Ty for sharing.
No worries :)
great finding!
Reminiscent of smudgy bronze asterism, available from North Carolina to China. More readily available than transparent corundum, although I would suppose one location has it's own specific idiosyncrasies.
Yeah, it is the inclusions that make this variety unique and so far it is just the one mining area in Kenya that has been able to produce this hematite/ilmenite rich variety in any significant quantity, at least to the point where the GIA has classed it as a new type of sapphire :)
Stunning!
Looks like they are gem crystals of tigers eye, very beautiful!
They are stunning stones :)
Beautiful gemstone. I do not claim to be an expert on gemstones; but i too prefer the cabachon cut in these lovely stomes.
The gold sheen sapphire does cut lovely cabochons doesn't it :)
Looks like spectrolite/labradorite and or tiger eye.
i have a beautiful piece of gold sheen sapphire, a beautiful carving I collected 2 years ago while I work there in HK....Great vids!
Thanks!
If they didn't say that this was gold sheen sapphire I'd bet the farm that it was labradorite. Honestly as an admirer of gems and not educated in them I would never buy gold sheen sapphire it looks too similar to labradorite and would be afraid I would be easily fooled into buying labradorite pieces at gold sheen sapphire prices by dishonest merchants. So I would avoid it all together. In fact I'm so skeptical I'd be more willing to believe that this some large scale conspiracy by the gemology world to get precious gem dollars for semi precious gems.
Haha nothing wrong with being skeptical. In this case, seeing as institutions like the Gemological Association of America, the Gemmological Association of Great Britain, the French Gemological Association and more have all confirmed this as a new variety of sapphire I think we can rest easy ;)
@@Lawsongems There are so many semi precious gems out there that look like precious gems is there any way to really tell that I'm not being taken for a ride. I feel like the only way to really be sure is to do some kind of chemical test. How would one even go about that?
Maybe I'm just not that trusting.
@@cynthiafarris1051 study. like anyone else who wants to learn to be an educated consumer.
Que maravilha da natureza essas Safiras, que tipo são essas? Excelente documentário.
Love to have these sapphires. They would be good for engagement rings.
They are really stunning stones and great for engagement rings due to their durability!
Looks beautiful though
Beautiful gemstone. Sort of looks like it has rutile bars when you look at if from various angles.
Funnily enough it is the relatively small amount of rutile and the very large amounts of illemenite and chromite that prompted labs like GIA to classify it as a separate variety of sapphire :)
@@Lawsongems Awesome. I guess I have a good eye at spotting that detail. Beautiful gem; would love to own one.
Awesome gems
Thanks :)
Have there been any other colours found? The ones displayed all seem to have a blueish background, but as sapphires come in all colours I was wondering if more had been found. Specifically as ruby(or "pink" sapphire) is closely related I'm wondering if red or pink has been found? ofc I do realise that just because they're basically the same mineral, doesn't mean that the formation of the gold sheen asterism is also gonna be conducive to the formation of pink/red stones as well, not to mention that ruby is the rarest corundum colour. That would be stunning en cabochon I think tho, if they were to be found.
+catz Keet There is a bit of blue and yellow material found but when these colours are obvious there is usually a lack of the sheen effect. That said you may have noticed in one of the shots there was a yellow that had been cut with half clear yellow and half gold sheen, so though there is a little bit of material with other colours it is usually cut to show a multicoloured stone.
Hey Charles! I just found your video now because I visited Tanzim's stand a moment ago. He's a great human being, with some incredible stones. I might get an article together about it, and embed your video. Is that cool? :)
Hi Angela, I am more than happy for the film to be embedded. Share the knowledge I say! ;)
Beautiful gemstones!! They actually remind me of rutile quartz except the rods inside look different in color; not gold or black but kind of silver. I wander what the Moh's scale render their hardness level to be? I would love to add to my small collection of gems.
It is a bit reminiscent of rutilated quartz. This has a hardness of 9 (as it is a variety of sapphire) :)
I've never seen anything like it. I've heard that some Star Sapphires can be black with inclusions of Hematite. This must be what I've read in a book called, "The complete illustrated guide to minerals, rocks, and fossils". It was written by John Farndon and Steve Parker.
It is a very unique variety of sapphire, black star sapphire is predominantly included with hematite and rutile, what makes this variety different, in short, is that the colour and star is caused by a combination of ilmenite, hematite and magnetite, at least enough to the point that bodies such as the GIA and the Gemmological Association of Great Britain have classed it as a new variety haha :P
I would have liked to seen what a full crystal looks like.
Part way through at the beginning of the section showing the cutting process there are number of large pieces shown. From what I have seen it does not tend to form nicely formed crystals very often.
Wow! Gorgeous...Very dangerous part of the world- that should hopefully drive the price up, esp. if no other veins are found...
just an observation- those are good working conditions? Really? Because it's dry rather than wet?
I'm sure it could be ALOT worse. No OSHA out there!
really weird intresting gem that it looks nice xD
Looks nice.
Thanks :)
Gold belíssimo maravilhas...top
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To me it looks just a type of star sapphire
Yep for sure. Gold sheen sapphire does produce some beautiful star stones :)
Kinda reminds me of some images I've seen of labradorite
Haha it does a bit :)
When a new stone, gem or mineral is identified, do archeologists ever get as excited as the geologists and gemologists, and try to see if stone artifacts ever have or was made with said stones?
haha that is a good question 😂
@@Lawsongems Could make for an interesting video topic, on the simple fact that new minerals don't literally form over night, but takes millions of years to form.
Interesting
Thanks :)
Well that is exiting
Haha it sure is!
OMGSH I have 2 Indian head or totems w this gold sheen looks like star graphite
Lola Brigette you might be thinking of gold sheen obsidian. I also have a totem, made of gold sheen obsidian
a rock or mineral deposit is ONLY as valuable as what a person determines, then you must convince everyone else it is that "precious "..... 😲😩
That is exactly correct. We pay for jewellery, clothes, cars, houses, music/art and every other item or process in our lives that involve any amount of style, fashion or popularity at a price higher than their actual value simply because our society attaches value to them. I do not need to buy a nice pear of jeans to wear but it definitely beats wearing a utilitarian hessian sack that would do the same job =P
Close to gold sheen obsidian!
True, and close to tigre eye & Labradorite too
It reminds me alittle of laboradite, it has it's great differences of course- but has that irridecent quality that laboradite is so popular for. How interesting & special to find that rare quality in sapphire...
It is abit similar to labradorite in appearance, just with primarily goldish sheen from silk instead of the more rainbow colours from twinning :)
am I the only one this looks like golden labradorite
It does have a bit of a similar sheen effect ;)
Is it more of a copper-ish color or is it just the lighting?
It has a pretty dominant gold colour but it can become a bit more bronze or steely depending on the light and the stone.
Is there a way to purchase some raw?
You can get in touch with Tanzim Khan Malik at genuinegems07@gmail.com, he is the owner of the store in the video.
How do you rate the chocolate sapphire against these gold sheen sapphire?
The main difference would be that generally the term "chocolate sapphire" is simply used to describe a brown sapphire, where gold sheen is referring to a specific variety of sapphire. So potentially if you had a particularly brown, gold sheen sapphire, you could call it a "chocolate gold sheen sapphire" :)
Some type of rutile??
It is actually high amounts of hematite and ilmenite that are the cause of the effect (rutile and magnetite may also be present in small amounts) and it is due to this unique combination of minerals instead of the usual suspect, rutile, that it has been classed as a new variety.
How much is that kind of stone??
Genuine Gems and Jewellery in Bangkok is the supplier for this material.
MY like 💎💎💎🖒🖒🖒🖒🖒🖒😁
Thanks :)
New gemsona opportunities?
Who did know where we can find this store please?
Genuine Gems and Jewellery in Bangkok is the supplier for this material.
Is this mohs scale 9?
Yep the hardness is the same, it is essentially a new variety of sapphire, but with large amounts of ilmenite and hematite present where as with the more common varieties of sapphire it is almost always rutile that is present :)
Are they expensive?
These are more expensive than regular black star sapphires but cheaper than say a blue star sapphire.
Very
Am I wrong or do I see a star in some of them?
Yep, these can often show stars :)
ゴールドシーン美しいですが、カボションカットにするのはなんだかもったいないような気もしますね。
The majority of the material is quite opaque or translucent at best (some have transparent sections) because of this most are cut as either cabochon or rose cut. This both shows off the optical effect the best and gives the best face up to weight ratio, if they are faceted there would be a lot of weight sitting underneath in the pavilion of the stone that does not add to the apparent beauty of the stone. However some are occasionally faceted in a full cut but this is a bit more of a novelty in most cases.
is golden Sheen saphire different from the Black golden star sapphire?
It is similar but not quite the same, the inclusions causing the sheen effect are differdent to regular black star sappphire and the body colour in gold sheen can vary from black to blue to yellow.
unfortunately this type of sapphire is still pretty rare in market
Pls make a video that compare and explain the difference of gold sheen sapphire and any other gemstone that similar to it.
I'm looking for stones. How do I get them from the miners. Contact me. Thanks
you can get in touch at support@lawsongems.com
please does any body tell me where does this person live and what is the store address?
Genuine Gems and Jewellery in Bangkok is the supplier for this material.
Where can I buy this gold sheen sapphire? I'm very interested in investing in this stone
Just shoot through an email to support@lawsongems.com and I can help you out :)
Lawson Gems could I have a estimate of how much these stones might go for?
What are the price ranges on the rough, or is it generally only sold as a preform / cut?
there is a bit of a range depending on the grade of the stone and the quantity required but it can range anywhere from $30-$500USD per carat
As there is tight control on the supply of this new stone the rough is not available I am afraid but it can be cut to pretty much any shape/style you are looking for. However if you want to shoot me through an email I can look into whether or not procuring rough would be possible at all in the future for you support@lawsongems.com
mhm thats the rock hehe
:P
that is labadorite!
Haha it does look similar at times, now if only it were the same price as labradorite haha!
Lawson Gems labadorite is less money then sapphires. it is labadorite....no question
Yeah for sure, labradorite is far far cheaper than gold sheen sapphire. However there is no doubt this is sapphire, you would have to prove the Gemological Institute of America wrong to say it isn't haha!
I thought these were man made?
looks like tiger eye ,nothing special about this at all
James Anagnos how long have you been in the gem stone business ?? Its not tigers eye.