Man, im not sure why you dont get more views and subs. Your content is great and it has helped me learn the F/A 18C MAJORLY. I hope more people pay attention to you and your content.
Lol yep, I saw some tutorials there many things you don't need to check in a simulator like dcs, check the lights things like that. You can be good to go with the Hornet in about 3min not really more since we have in flight alignment lol
Haha me too. I don’t get a lot of time to play so tend to either auto start and use the time to read up on mission and think of plan, or just accelerate time until it’s done and get flying.
I am no longer a beginner at DCS. I’m beating campaign missions on the first try with the FA-18. I didn’t have any kind of plan with my learning. I started with the Su-25t and learned weapons systems fairly quickly. I guess I would just caution against starting with too much of the dry stuff. I enjoy all the “boring” stuff but I’m guessing some people might want to be able to use weapons quickly in order to motivate them to learn? Maybe….just a thought. Because we aren’t real fighter pilots and we aren’t really flying planes. As much as that pains me to say :p
There is a lot of crossover between planes. Once you learn a concept or skill in one module, it often has a lot of applicability in others. Shared equipment, shared central concepts with slightly different switches and interfaces with more or less options. There is a definitely a hell of a front loaded learning curve in DCS - that is, you can't do much until you learn quite a lot.
Good video, you nailed it. This is the most fun when you know what you're doing and you get satisfaction when you master your module. I think the frustrating thing is not having enough time to get it down, I recommend you set up a method of learning, like one system per time and then practice that until you get it down instead of trying to learn everything at once. Everyone learns at a different rate, but you do need to practice as you learn. I discovered what a huge time suck DCS is and very frustrating because every time you get in the cockpit, you will burn up hours just doing a few things and then it's time to go off to bed, or work, or family time.
I couldn't agree more. The next logical step is a curriculum to each one of the steps. How cool would it be if DCS had progress unlocks like in the shooter games. You can't have access to taxi and take off until you can cold start. You can't land until you can taxi and take off. You can finish that then learn navigation. Each step expands your capability.
Yeah, I've been using the CASE1 Mission Qualification to get a few tries in each evening I get some time, takes about 6 minutes each go. Otherwise I'd never get it right at all I think haha
@@janlapple5686 I use TACAN and ILS and set the course. By the book, you aren't supposed to use the "needles" in a Case 1 landing, but if you get down safely use what works. 😏
A lot of people don’t fully understand how much time is needed to learn this stuff to be able to do the “cool” shit. I was very fortunate by having a job that had a lot of free time during the day which allowed me to fly regularly pretty much 7 days a week. I think I would fly around 2-3 hrs a day on average for the first 2 years of playing DCS. That’s a lot of hours to go from knowing nothing to what I know now which is still not very much in the big scheme of things.
I just joined DCS and I joined because I'm 61 years old and because I have all these challenges “to get an F/A 18C Hornets with almost 95% of all flight, navigation and combat commands” and because I can do it with a good computer and with Virtual Reality, transforming all of this into the most attractive flight simulator. It doesn't make sense for you to have all this and not learn it correctly. I truly appreciate all your videos and knowledge. Congratulations on your RUclips channel
A friend and I decided to get into dcs, something we've pondered for a few months. We decided to go with the f14 b because we love the jet and felt a two seater would offer both of us the chance for trial and error as both the pilot and Rio. We try to switch roles every 3 sessions. I think one thing is you have to really enjoy digging in and taking time to learn the systems. You have to enjoy the grind in my opinion. The trial and error. If you aren't one of those people then the high fidelity planes are probably not for you.
I really want the f-14 but I'm waiting till I can really fly, I was buying modules before my pc was built. I've got fc3 av-88 and F/A-18. Watched hours of videos and had fun BUT I'm starting over with the hornet to really learn and it's starting to pay off. Cheers for the videos they are helping me each and every step
This is an amazing guide, and I appreciate how much you go into detail. Your first tip about setting only the most basic keybinds is utterly brilliant. I imagine it's easy to try and bind 100 actions and completely stress about memorizing them, or even thinking you need them in your first several sessions. This single piece of advice is sure to improve my outlook when learning new, big projects like DCS. Thank you!
There is only one way to eat an elephant: a bite at a time. Break the big task down into small simple ones and before you know it you’ve learnt the whole thing 🙏🏻
Truth. I’d only say that AA refueling doesn’t seem necessary to pick up before weapons systems training. After take off and landing without looking stuff up and radio procedures, go ahead and start learning how to find targets using the various sensors and how they share data with each other, and how they link up to guided and precision weapon delivery.
Only reason I say it is necessary is because if you want to fly with other people not being able to fly formation on transit or being able to hit a tanker is going to rule you out of a lot of multiplayer missions. You will struggle to stay with your wingman or flame out on long sorties if you can’t get gas in the air so to be mission ready I’d say it’s a pre requisite for complex missions. But if you just want to fly within one tank of gas range of your airfield stuff then it’s good to skip I guess 👍🏻👍🏻
@@TorniQuetHD that’s probably true. I’ve only flown Ka-50 and A-10C multiplayer, and though the latter can AA refuel I always have to fly home for rearm well before bingo fuel.
As someone new to DCS this definetly helped putting me in the right direction. Currently learning flight pattern landings and navigation with TACAN. Will for sure look into waypoint navigation aswell. The F18 is so cool, love starting it up from cold. Cheers
@@TorniQuetHD Just a thought but have you considered doing something similar for Helos? Also, perhaps an outline of the basics for A2G and A2A tactics? I know it would help me....but I also know you put this together on your own accord. Cheers!
@@EvansRG78 I’m not that confident on the progressions for a helo, I’d assume it would be very similar to learning a fixed wing module. A2A and A2G I would start with the basic fundamentals like CCIP dropping and BFM before going for the more advanced precision and radar guided weaponry but that is just me
Just spent the last 2 hrs at sochi......cold start......take off, 4 way points and land...and again...appreciate the brutal honesty BUT HEY you are 100% correct
I trained as a pilot in the Australian Army IRL. This is good advice. The only thing I would add is consider not starting with a jet. WWII aircraft are easier to manage, but harder to fly (which is a good thing). If you can fly a Spitfire, you'll have no trouble flying a Hornet. In reality, it's even longer. At the time I was training, we would spend a minimum of 6 months on the CT-4B piston engine trainer learning nothing more advanced than aerobatics and navigation without GPS. Then it's on to Bell 206B Kiowa for 6 months of helicopter pilot training. Then type conversion (say, Blackhawk or Tigre ARH) just to learn how to fly that aircraft. Only after type conversion do you start actually learning to fight/fly in the battlespace with the aircraft - we're talking a bare minimum of 18 months but more typically 2 years. So if you follow TorniQuet's advice and you're flying for an hour or two, five times a week, you might be competent in 6 months. I have 60-odd hours in the Hornet in DCS and I can complete a campaign, but I wouldn't say I'm competent yet and I learned to fly IRL (so there's a bit of a shortcut for the basics). DCS is a sim. The more you treat it like real flying, the faster you'll learn. Quite seriously, it takes me back which is why I love it.
If you start with a World War 2 module the learning curve goes the same way as you have described here, but not as steep. I am now learning the Harrier, and it is a big jump, but the training instruction that comes with the module is probably the best thing to follow at first. But you have to be patient and persevere.
I 100% agree with this. I've flown aerobatic taildraggers in real life and nothing in DCS gives me a rush of memories like flying a Spitfire. If you can fly a warbird, you'll have no problems flying a jet. It gives you the mental space to learn about managing the jet's systems. I fly the Hornet now in DCS, but I very intentionally entered DCS on the Spit.
💯 ^^^ this is why I do the tutorials! I’ve seen a fair few never having flown a module to being an absolute weapon with it by doing the right thing and learning in the right sequence.
thank you 👍 it's a really relaxing video i'm about a month old in DCS i bought my self an f-15 .. witch is an easy FC3 module .. but i also picked the f-16 as a 14 days free trail when it expired i picked the f-18 and exactly as u said i got mad and stressingly blaming my self for not quickly understanding and needing to repeat the same lesson alot but now with ur video i'm feel good and not ashamed for slow learning
New player only 20 hours into my training on the SU-25t and after the first hour trying to bomb stuff I soon released that was no the way to go. Just came across your channel. Top advice Thanks Subscribed
I would add something to your first point. Start with Flaming Cliffs planes as the planes are much easier to learn. That will tell you if you’re going to enjoy it and get into it. If you can’t invest time to learn those planes then don’t bother with the full fidelity ones.
I would even suggest getting an older plane and learning the core basics of flight, trim, navigation, etc. I started with the F16; but wanted to go basics so I'm learning in the C101 and P51 when I want to chill. It's helped me understand how to actually fly before diving into a full on fighter jet with all the bells and whistles.
Agree mate, it’s hard to not get tempted to do the “cool” shit but if you try to do too much too early you will only get frustrated and end up giving up because you’re not getting any better due to skipping the fundamentals of flying the module first
Loved the vid, great info! Just bought a new rig and a thrustmaster1600 FCS set, looking forward to actually learning something with all the hours wasted gaming :)
One other thought. I advise not attempting air to air refuelling too early. There is a good chance you will end up throwing your joystick through the monitor in frustration then it’s game over. 😂
Great video, and that opening truth bomb is oh-so-true. After watching a bunch of DCS videos I thought I'd give it a try. Messed around for a little bit and realized there was realistically no way I had the time to invest to not suck, and uninstalled it. I'll get my fix through the many excellent YT channels.
Very wise to recognize that you don't have the time... that being said, if you watch videos all the time you will learn vicariously through them and prob pick up the flying stuff a lot quicker than you think.
Great video roadmapping what needs to be done. I’ve been at this for three weeks now P51. Still mastering these basic skills. What if any changes would you make to this plan for mastering warbirds. Thanks
Started dcs 2 months ago and I have yet master cold start for every aircraft I have. Not to mention, how to land. Flaming cliffs, tomcat, hornet, viper, just straight how to fight 😂😭 P.S = haven't mastered how to control their weapons too 💀
Great video I just got DCS and the JF-17/FC-1 module a couple of weeks ago and have been messing around using chucks guide and feeling overwhelmed a bit. This has given me a clear plan of action for the next few weeks just nailing down the basics before dealing with the myriad of weapons and radar options the aircraft has.
Thanks mate, it is something that is easy to overlook and become frustrated with when you are trying to do something advanced when you don't know the basics first. Hopefully you're on track with it all now and starting to enjoy things
Thanks mate, tried to look at it from when I first started and all the mistakes I made so new players don’t do the same things I did and get better faster
Love your vids, as a noob im slowly starting to learn the F18, cutting corners is not an option i have noticed that myself first hand. Great to have a guide to work with thank you!
Thanks! 👍This is just what I needed to hear to confirm what I already knew deep inside. As a young man, my first experience with military flight simming was with Falcon 3.0, 4.0. I was really stoked back in those days just like I am now with DCS World. I remember clearly studying the Falcon manual, I read it from cover to cover 3-4 times and referred to it on a regular basis. I got quite good like you say in the video, but it took patience, perseverance, and religious dedication. Jump to the modern day after decades of not simming and I find myself drawn once again to my beloved F-16! I'd heard about DCS a long time ago, but I knew that my old 10 year computer was no match for any of the current sims. Right around the time the pandemic hit, I bought a custom made PC with the latest and greatest money could by for the sole purpose of getting back into flight simming. When I went to look for a Warthog HOTAS system, they had become very scarce and scalpers wanted more than double the MSRP, so I decided to wait once again. I was very fortunate to find a more normal deal for the HOTAS so I jumped on it and got DCS World and MSFS 2020. I also recently picked up the matching TPR rudder pedals. Anyway, I'm feeling a little overwhelmed by just the mapping of the HOTAS, TPR controls to the vast list of options in DCS, let alone the complexity of the F-16 avionics and flight mechanics in comparison to the now inferior Falcon. I'm slowly and painfully learning how to key bind the mappings of my controllers and learning my way around the user interface. As mentioned before, your video was very re-assuring and helps to drive home the point that patience and dedication is what's needed to get good at DCS. I'm looking forward to learning how to do my first cold start and going on from there. Cheers!
It’s a long journey for sure mate, check out tricker on RUclips for some good F-16 tutorials as well as DCS chucks guide for the F-16. I need to get some time back up in the viper, it’s been a hot minute
Great Video Sir! I just bought the F18 module and did a cold and dark start training mission. I was also experimenting with my new Tobii Eye tracker settings. It was nice! I felt like I was trying to drink from a fire hose. This aircraft is definitely study level. I'll be taking my Chucks guide to work tomorrow to start my training.
Yeah, I will. I've got almost 1100 hrs in Microsoft flight simulator but DCS definitely ain't that! MSFS did prepare me for memorizing engine start sequences, programming navigation computers and aircraft handling so that part should progress quickly but the radar and weapons deployment are what makes me nervous, lol
Practice formation flying first mate, get decent at that before trying to go for the basket… little stick inputs and constant throttle corrections is the key mate. Set up a big axis curve of 25 or more on pitch and roll if you haven’t already
@@TorniQuetHD oh I've done those things, thanks though. Struggling with not being able to exactly control speed where I either I'm not catching up to the tanker or I'm overshooting it. That's why I was referring to the auto throttle, also paying attention to the tanker calling out its own speed as reference as pretty important.
@@Mike-rt2vp top tip for managing your speed as you approach the tanker is to lock it up with your A2A radar. This gives you your range. Then, as you approach it, make sure that your speed = tanker speed + (distance x 10). For example, if tanker speed is 300 kts and you’re 10 miles from it, set your speed to 400. Then at 9 miles bring it back to 390, at 8 miles 380, etc. this gives you a nice slow 10kt approach to the tanker at 1 mile. As you practice and start to get it, you can increase your speed multiplier (e.g. distance x 20).
It is harsh but true... you're just going to get frustrated and quit and end up wasting money on modules and peripherals etc if you don't want to set some serious time aside to learn this stuff.
I got DCS a few weeks ago, I bought FC3 and have been having a blast with those planes so far. I flew all of them except the Mig29 thus far. I have around 50 hours into the game and I feel I’ll need a lot more hours before I get bored with the low fidelity models. Also Su27 is the best!
The Su-27 is definitely a beast mate, I love how it looks… just a very sleek and menacing looking airframe 💪🏻 I’m enjoying the FC3 modules too, haven’t really spent much time in them so it’s nice to get to know what they are capable of
Awesome video, this really gives me a sense of grounding on where I should start in my learning progress and sort of a progression bar of where I should be. This is more relieving then it is daunting.
Glad it gave you a bit of a guide of what you're getting yourself into mate. It's a brilliant game but it just needs some time to put in to it to get the hang of your module of choice
@@miloa5833 the harrier is a great module, it can defend itself in a dogfight with aim-9 missiles but it most certainly isn't built for air to air... it has no radar at all so you need to rely on CAP cover or attack areas where air superiority has already been established. SEAD and ground attack is what it does best and the ability to hover is pretty damn cool too!! very similar to the F18 in terms of cockpit layout too so if you do transition to the hornet one day you won't feel super out of place in the cockpit
It took me about 60 hours of training to be able to smash first PVP enemy on online server. Self learner here only with ED instruction, I even discovered by myself that doing burner for a few minutes drains all the fuel (wtf? this plane just stops midair? WTF??) With MiG 29A which is my favourite plane. Module is easy to use, bigger problem is tactics to use it efficiently, especially versus much better planes. Now after 160 hours of gameplay I am able to go for a mission, shoot a plane or two and get back, refuel, rearm and get back. On the other hand I started learning Mig21 and its a crazy plane.
Really good video, summed it up pretty nicely. Trust me the axis tuning is a must. I’m only decent at the game but only have 253hrs, love the game to chill.
Ive gone and done exactly what you are saying NOT to do, ive key bound everything and then got confused and lost, ive only totalled about 15hrs of which half was in the f-15c then i purchased the fa-18c so ive had a nightmare making the very mistake you have just pointed out so heres my master plan, im just going to go back to basics learning to start up, take off, fly and then land before i start trying to bomb everything in sight and going kamikaze! Back to basics and basic flight key binds! Im having trouble understanding flaps and speed brakes atm, the fa18 has a terrible turn compared to the f15 so how do i bring the nose round to make tight turns? Thanks for these vids btw, priceless when the chips are down ✌🏼💙✊
I learn all the basics first, how to start up, taxi and take off. Keybind just the basics, as if I'm flying a MSFS 2020 module. After all the basics (keybinds, navigation, take off and landing) are done, I move to the weapon systems, countermeasures, radars....but it takes days/weeks to move in between these two. And even then, there's always something new that you didn't see at the beginning, after 6 months learning the module. Maybe a year later...
This is the way I’d recommend matey ^^^^ longer process but when you get to the end you will be extremely proficient in all aspects of that module and be a great asset to a multiplayer mission or even just doing campaigns etc.
The main aircraft I fly are the Huey, Apache and F14. I found the Huey and the Apache were pretty straightforward to start but the F14 looked so daunting, even looked hard in tutorials but I forced myself to learn how to do. Feels so satisfying to hear the whine of the engines come to life..... trimming for Onspeed, actually trimming in general I find really tough even after owning it since lauch day I still can't get it properly trimmed so I can let go of the stick and keep level. Are there any drills you could suggest so that becomes second nature at all?
For the tomcat or the hornet are we talking for on speed trimming?? The tomcat I’ve found you still have to hand fly it a bit, I can’t get it to sit perfectly at on speed like the hornet either, I can get it close but I still have to use the stick for nose authority to keep it looking bang on.
For those who aren’t ready to go full nerd, IL2 is a great middle ground! It’s an excellent combat sim that gets you in the air and in the fight quickly compared to DCS. The flight models aren’t as nuanced and the cockpits aren’t clicky, but you can become and excellent and deadly sim pilot by flying IL2. All the skills you learn in IL2 will make DCS easier to get into as well!
I do not think the flight model is inferior in il2. Even if you master all procedures you still are a flying cannon fodder as it takes several months even years to get modereately capable in air to air combat. And you will meet in the virtual sky people years ahead of you. Also as all those games have extremely small community (niche) you will meet predominantly more experiences players than your peers and that adds to the frustration.
It is a good guide for being helpful on multiplayer servers for sure but as long as you’re up front and honest with people on the servers and say that you’re new then most people are considerate and helpful
Great video. for those adults of us out there, It's just like learning to drive a car, remember how intimating it was when we first started to drive? We have to go thru the whole thing again like we're teenagers before we can do it without thinking and just jump in the car and go to the store like we take for granted every day.
I never felt intimidated when I learnt to drive a car, but then again I was 12 and had nothing to hit apart from the odd tree stump😀 Flying an F/A-18, now that’s intimidating!
@@TorniQuetHD I've been playing for months, I'm still rubbish lol... mission editor is superb... I think I have been learning the wrong way ! fingers crossed
Man, you nailed the fact that other flight sims might be a much better choice, considering what is required in DCS to get maximum enjoyment, which for some can be unexpectedly excessive. I'd plenty of flight sim experience at the time when a friend got me into Battlefield 3 and 4. I stuck with it for maybe 2 years, teaming up with him and a guy in Moscow over Skype. However, I finally abandoned BF to the hacker-cheaters who'd found the exact coordinate on the map from which to spawn-kill, or somehow eluded being kicked for non-stop ramming with aircraft........ I began to notice servers had become arenas where players no longer played but watched and encouraged the curiously immune smegma, complimenting on their hacks and cheats. That friend who'd introduced me to BF lives in it every second he's not at work....... evidently dying within seconds of spawning is really really fun. I've heard that the same ilk of hackers/cheaters come with online DCS......... those that orbit airfields and spawn-kill, rammers, etc., with little to no enforcement with size 18 boot in the ass to the imbeciles. Not only dedication to learning required but also thick skin for tolerance of the cockroaches.
The barrier to entry for DCS is much higher than an FPS so the trolls generally don’t make it through the learning phase of flying. Don’t get me wrong there is still a few clowns out there but for the most part everyone who flies online and is dominant in the air is generally a good pilot who knows how to fight more than running hacks and cheating.
I have a question: You mention watching videos in order to understand the deeper functionalities of your aircraft, but would doing the Training Missions included with the aircraft have more or less the same effect, if not slightly better since you're applying the requisite skills in DCS already? This is a dope video btw i know how to streamline my learning processes and eventually want to master the F/A-18 and F-14
I’m talking from my experience of never having flown an actual study level flight sim before… all of the tutorials went straight over my head, I didn’t understand anything that they were saying so I had to find other avenues to learn in a simpler way because I didn’t understand the pilot lingo etc. It’s easy to forget Wht it’s like to not know anything at all when you’ve been doing something for so long. The curse of knowledge is a real thing, it’s not always as “simple” as it sounds to someone with no experience to draw from. RUclips has got so many content creators and tutorial series that one or multiple creators are bound to make sense to you and help you get better 👌🏻 find the resources that help you fast track your learning and take it all in ☺️
@@TorniQuetHD Ahhh i sorta get what you mean The Training Missions feels more technical (in an unnecessary way) whereas the few YT Vids i've seen cut to the chase and i found that the YT Vids get to me faster XD
Yeah that’s it, if you have a background and understanding of aviation terminology etc the tutorials are probably fine or learn from but if you are not familiar with terms and jargon they use it can be lost in translation. Finding your learning source that suits you is all that matters in the end, whether it be from the built in training tutorials or YT videos or online documentation like chucks guides 👌🏻👌🏻
@@TorniQuetHD this is a great way to put it and I was seriously struggling with this so badly. I must have restarted the cold start training mission for my first module about 30 times before I eventually gave up and came back to DCS later and just watched RUclips videos on it. Everything they were saying made zero sense to someone like me who had no idea about the technical side of aviation. I think how you learn and practice is just as important as the practice itself, I mean I spent like 8+ hours doing that cold start mission and could still barely start the aircraft.
Great vid! Too many times I've run into people in my group that get DCS, buy a module and the first flight they are try to dogfight or bomb targets and crash or get shot down and they blame it on the game. I do have a question for you though. In the waypoint section what is the opaque snip tool you use for copying coordinates? Keep up the good work!
Good video and lots of useful advise, BUT this is a game and not real life. Above can be described as the «HARDCORE» way. Remember there is SEVERAL ways to reach the goal. Not all DCS players can learn is such a rigid and structured way. Others do not have that many hours to play each week, but you still can ENJOY DCS! I agree with you that it takes MANY hours to be proficient in a module. That is why I now only fly a few modules on a regular basis, even if I have bought/setup/flown most of them. Remember to once in a while during training to go drop some bombs and do some silly things and not strictly follow all above steps above in video, otherwise you may/will be bored. Main goal of the game is to have FUN 😉. For me this ia achieved by completing a mission with all steps succesfully (from cold start to shutdown). But it is not needed to have a good time. PS: Have played DCS for years with a few thousand hours experience, so I am one of the addicted ones 😂
Agree totally mate, my reasoning for the above approach is to get the most enjoyment out of the sim by flying structured and complex missions where you need to have the basics down before the cooler stuff. By all means have a crack at doing stuff like bombing and the rest but you just won’t be as effective or proficient as you could be if you try and sprint before you’ve learnt to crawl. I know a guy who did that and it took me a long time to go back to the basics and re-learn the proper way to get better so it is from my experience of never flown in a flight sim to where I am now that I draw from 👌🏻 There is something satisfying for me anyways when you finally nail something you’ve been working really hard on getting the hang of so all of that frustration makes the victory taste much sweeter when you get it dialled in.
Oh yeah the rage is real when you’re first starting out… I would get a sore jaw and arms from being so tense concentrating. Now it is effortless, just takes practice to get the procedure down, once you get it it’s just another part of flight that is second nature
Dude, great video again. I made (continue to make LOL) very mistakes you mention. Speaking of curves, how are you liking your new pedals, and how the heck do you keep your office chair from moving/swiveling when using any pedals?
I’m lucky my pc is set up in a room with carpet so I don’t slide on the floor but in my previous house I had tiles so I had to go to Amazon and buy some bell glides I believe they were called. Swaps out with your wheels for a pad type thing if that makes sense
@@TorniQuetHD awesome, I will check them out! Do you do anything with the swiveling office chair? My awesome wife took the twins out for a drive so I just fired up Raven One: Dominant Fury!
@@ColonelAkirNakesh I just bought that! Going to get into it this weekend I think. Raven one OG campaign will be on hold for a bit I think haha. The swivel chair thing doesn’t really bother me, I just reset my trackIR center every now and then. If you watch my videos you will see what looks like a glitch when the camera snaps back to center real quick when I reset my head tracking. I do it so much I don’t even remember doing it half the time now
For playing MSFS, I cut a piece of plywood to a shape that fits with some stuff under my desk and cut 2 slots on the back end that trap 2 of the chair wheels. There's still some wiggle room, but it does a good job of keeping the chair in place relative to the controls.
Truth Bomb In Yo Face!!!! Get off that carrier noob!! Great vid bro. TBH I rely completely on your tutorials and a few other choice creators, when I’m learning new modules. Sure there are folks out there that jump in and go, but like you said, the level of frustration is high. I would go so far as to say the level of frustration is directly proportional to the amount of pre-learning and practice one does. I absolutely find your videos are what help me with that. Maybe someone else finds a different tutorial series helpful. Bottom line is…find the help somewhere. You will have such a better experience if you do some research first. Thanks again Tourni! I appreciate your time and effort put in to helping us become proficient.
Exactly mate, I know I’m not everyone’s cup of tea. The main thing is that you do the research, find someone whos teaching style makes sense to you and then apply all of it to your flying to improve.
I believe the raven one campaign team with Baltic dragon are looking at making one that is targeted at how it would be going through flight school with the hornet. Learning actual procedures and the like. I hope they do make it because I would be all over that
@@TorniQuetHD 100% DCS can be one of the most rewarding experiences you can get from a game, and a commitment not everyone realises until they try. So you giving people a heads up is in my opinion super helpful. 👌
@@TorniQuetHD I think you're 95% right. I think it's okay for newbies to play around with some stuff for a bit, which can be a little fun, but then they got to start "going to school" as you pretty much described.
What? You mean I'm not supposed to drop into random Discord channels and announce "HI I just bought the Hornet, I demand that somebody spend their personal time teaching me everything about it but I refuse to do any studying on my own." Yes. That happens. Alot
Haha yeah some people do that… a bit of kindness and gratitude goes a long way from the people seeking help, and yes agree also do your own research at the same time to compliment your learning
Great stuff. One tip I'd add to the binds section, is to clear out all the axis binds that DCS "helps" by automatically setting up for you (eg you also have your xbox controller plugged into your PC, but primarily use a HOTAS). Without doing this, other controllers can interfere in comical ways with any axis binds you do have set.
just to remind .. arma and war thunder aren't as deep and complicated as DCS .. but at the same time they are not as casual as BF or ace combat or hawx ...they need practicing for not a short while
I can only encouage everybody to give DCS a Chance, search help online if u like. The community is very helpful and its so much fun to do air to air dogfight if you are a little bit into the Game after a while!
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Man, im not sure why you dont get more views and subs. Your content is great and it has helped me learn the F/A 18C MAJORLY. I hope more people pay attention to you and your content.
i'm such a dirty auto starter lmao
Nooooooooo!!! Honestly autostart takes longer to do than a cold start
@@TorniQuetHD u right tho. i'll eventually learn em.
Lol yep, I saw some tutorials there many things you don't need to check in a simulator like dcs, check the lights things like that. You can be good to go with the Hornet in about 3min not really more since we have in flight alignment lol
autostart and fly by feel 🤣
only thing i've tried learning is weapons management because you can't really wing that
Haha me too. I don’t get a lot of time to play so tend to either auto start and use the time to read up on mission and think of plan, or just accelerate time until it’s done and get flying.
I am no longer a beginner at DCS. I’m beating campaign missions on the first try with the FA-18. I didn’t have any kind of plan with my learning. I started with the Su-25t and learned weapons systems fairly quickly. I guess I would just caution against starting with too much of the dry stuff. I enjoy all the “boring” stuff but I’m guessing some people might want to be able to use weapons quickly in order to motivate them to learn? Maybe….just a thought. Because we aren’t real fighter pilots and we aren’t really flying planes. As much as that pains me to say :p
There is a lot of crossover between planes. Once you learn a concept or skill in one module, it often has a lot of applicability in others. Shared equipment, shared central concepts with slightly different switches and interfaces with more or less options. There is a definitely a hell of a front loaded learning curve in DCS - that is, you can't do much until you learn quite a lot.
💯 true mate
i got my first 2 kills in DCS yesterday and they were back to back. I dont think ive ever been more excited
NICE MATE!!! Hard work is paying off for you buddy!!
Good video, you nailed it. This is the most fun when you know what you're doing and you get satisfaction when you master your module. I think the frustrating thing is not having enough time to get it down, I recommend you set up a method of learning, like one system per time and then practice that until you get it down instead of trying to learn everything at once. Everyone learns at a different rate, but you do need to practice as you learn.
I discovered what a huge time suck DCS is and very frustrating because every time you get in the cockpit, you will burn up hours just doing a few things and then it's time to go off to bed, or work, or family time.
I couldn't agree more. The next logical step is a curriculum to each one of the steps. How cool would it be if DCS had progress unlocks like in the shooter games. You can't have access to taxi and take off until you can cold start. You can't land until you can taxi and take off. You can finish that then learn navigation. Each step expands your capability.
Yeah, I've been using the CASE1 Mission Qualification to get a few tries in each evening I get some time, takes about 6 minutes each go. Otherwise I'd never get it right at all I think haha
@@janlapple5686 I use TACAN and ILS and set the course. By the book, you aren't supposed to use the "needles" in a Case 1 landing, but if you get down safely use what works. 😏
A lot of people don’t fully understand how much time is needed to learn this stuff to be able to do the “cool” shit. I was very fortunate by having a job that had a lot of free time during the day which allowed me to fly regularly pretty much 7 days a week. I think I would fly around 2-3 hrs a day on average for the first 2 years of playing DCS. That’s a lot of hours to go from knowing nothing to what I know now which is still not very much in the big scheme of things.
I just joined DCS and I joined because I'm 61 years old and because I have all these challenges “to get an F/A 18C Hornets with almost 95% of all flight, navigation and combat commands” and because I can do it with a good computer and with Virtual Reality, transforming all of this into the most attractive flight simulator. It doesn't make sense for you to have all this and not learn it correctly. I truly appreciate all your videos and knowledge. Congratulations on your RUclips channel
A friend and I decided to get into dcs, something we've pondered for a few months. We decided to go with the f14 b because we love the jet and felt a two seater would offer both of us the chance for trial and error as both the pilot and Rio. We try to switch roles every 3 sessions. I think one thing is you have to really enjoy digging in and taking time to learn the systems. You have to enjoy the grind in my opinion. The trial and error. If you aren't one of those people then the high fidelity planes are probably not for you.
Well said mate 👌🏻👌🏻
I really want the f-14 but I'm waiting till I can really fly, I was buying modules before my pc was built. I've got fc3 av-88 and F/A-18. Watched hours of videos and had fun BUT I'm starting over with the hornet to really learn and it's starting to pay off. Cheers for the videos they are helping me each and every step
This is an amazing guide, and I appreciate how much you go into detail. Your first tip about setting only the most basic keybinds is utterly brilliant. I imagine it's easy to try and bind 100 actions and completely stress about memorizing them, or even thinking you need them in your first several sessions. This single piece of advice is sure to improve my outlook when learning new, big projects like DCS. Thank you!
There is only one way to eat an elephant: a bite at a time.
Break the big task down into small simple ones and before you know it you’ve learnt the whole thing 🙏🏻
Truth. I’d only say that AA refueling doesn’t seem necessary to pick up before weapons systems training. After take off and landing without looking stuff up and radio procedures, go ahead and start learning how to find targets using the various sensors and how they share data with each other, and how they link up to guided and precision weapon delivery.
Only reason I say it is necessary is because if you want to fly with other people not being able to fly formation on transit or being able to hit a tanker is going to rule you out of a lot of multiplayer missions. You will struggle to stay with your wingman or flame out on long sorties if you can’t get gas in the air so to be mission ready I’d say it’s a pre requisite for complex missions.
But if you just want to fly within one tank of gas range of your airfield stuff then it’s good to skip I guess 👍🏻👍🏻
@@TorniQuetHD that’s probably true. I’ve only flown Ka-50 and A-10C multiplayer, and though the latter can AA refuel I always have to fly home for rearm well before bingo fuel.
As someone new to DCS this definetly helped putting me in the right direction. Currently learning flight pattern landings and navigation with TACAN. Will for sure look into waypoint navigation aswell. The F18 is so cool, love starting it up from cold. Cheers
Thanks for this! I've been flying on DCS for 5 years now and will use these principles to go back and refine my skillset in my favorite modules.
Glad the video resonated with you mate, it is the best way to learn your module in DCS I feel
@@TorniQuetHD Just a thought but have you considered doing something similar for Helos? Also, perhaps an outline of the basics for A2G and A2A tactics? I know it would help me....but I also know you put this together on your own accord. Cheers!
@@EvansRG78 I’m not that confident on the progressions for a helo, I’d assume it would be very similar to learning a fixed wing module. A2A and A2G I would start with the basic fundamentals like CCIP dropping and BFM before going for the more advanced precision and radar guided weaponry but that is just me
Just spent the last 2 hrs at sochi......cold start......take off, 4 way points and land...and again...appreciate the brutal honesty BUT HEY you are 100% correct
I trained as a pilot in the Australian Army IRL. This is good advice. The only thing I would add is consider not starting with a jet. WWII aircraft are easier to manage, but harder to fly (which is a good thing). If you can fly a Spitfire, you'll have no trouble flying a Hornet.
In reality, it's even longer. At the time I was training, we would spend a minimum of 6 months on the CT-4B piston engine trainer learning nothing more advanced than aerobatics and navigation without GPS. Then it's on to Bell 206B Kiowa for 6 months of helicopter pilot training. Then type conversion (say, Blackhawk or Tigre ARH) just to learn how to fly that aircraft. Only after type conversion do you start actually learning to fight/fly in the battlespace with the aircraft - we're talking a bare minimum of 18 months but more typically 2 years. So if you follow TorniQuet's advice and you're flying for an hour or two, five times a week, you might be competent in 6 months. I have 60-odd hours in the Hornet in DCS and I can complete a campaign, but I wouldn't say I'm competent yet and I learned to fly IRL (so there's a bit of a shortcut for the basics).
DCS is a sim. The more you treat it like real flying, the faster you'll learn. Quite seriously, it takes me back which is why I love it.
If you start with a World War 2 module the learning curve goes the same way as you have described here, but not as steep. I am now learning the Harrier, and it is a big jump, but the training instruction that comes with the module is probably the best thing to follow at first. But you have to be patient and persevere.
Warbirds are amazing for learning the fundamentals of stick and rudder coordination no doubt 🫡
I 100% agree with this. I've flown aerobatic taildraggers in real life and nothing in DCS gives me a rush of memories like flying a Spitfire. If you can fly a warbird, you'll have no problems flying a jet. It gives you the mental space to learn about managing the jet's systems.
I fly the Hornet now in DCS, but I very intentionally entered DCS on the Spit.
I love helping new comers. It’s great to watch a total noob grow and learn and become a total war machine.
💯 ^^^ this is why I do the tutorials! I’ve seen a fair few never having flown a module to being an absolute weapon with it by doing the right thing and learning in the right sequence.
I'm so noob. Plz help.
thank you 👍
it's a really relaxing video
i'm about a month old in DCS
i bought my self an f-15 .. witch is an easy FC3 module .. but i also picked the f-16 as a 14 days free trail when it expired i picked the f-18
and exactly as u said i got mad and stressingly blaming my self for not quickly understanding and needing to repeat the same lesson alot
but now with ur video i'm feel good and not ashamed for slow learning
It’s a long and slow journey mate 👌🏻
Really happy to have found your video's huge help as a new comer to dcs.. keep up the outstanding content
New player only 20 hours into my training on the SU-25t and after the first hour trying to bomb stuff I soon released that was no the way to go.
Just came across your channel.
Top advice Thanks Subscribed
Thanks mate, glad you’re enjoying the game 🙏🏻 it’s a long long road to learning all of the stuff but it is well worth it
I would add something to your first point. Start with Flaming Cliffs planes as the planes are much easier to learn. That will tell you if you’re going to enjoy it and get into it. If you can’t invest time to learn those planes then don’t bother with the full fidelity ones.
I would even suggest getting an older plane and learning the core basics of flight, trim, navigation, etc. I started with the F16; but wanted to go basics so I'm learning in the C101 and P51 when I want to chill. It's helped me understand how to actually fly before diving into a full on fighter jet with all the bells and whistles.
Agree mate, it’s hard to not get tempted to do the “cool” shit but if you try to do too much too early you will only get frustrated and end up giving up because you’re not getting any better due to skipping the fundamentals of flying the module first
Loved the vid, great info! Just bought a new rig and a thrustmaster1600 FCS set, looking forward to actually learning something with all the hours wasted gaming :)
One other thought. I advise not attempting air to air refuelling too early. There is a good chance you will end up throwing your joystick through the monitor in frustration then it’s game over. 😂
Great video, and that opening truth bomb is oh-so-true. After watching a bunch of DCS videos I thought I'd give it a try. Messed around for a little bit and realized there was realistically no way I had the time to invest to not suck, and uninstalled it. I'll get my fix through the many excellent YT channels.
Very wise to recognize that you don't have the time... that being said, if you watch videos all the time you will learn vicariously through them and prob pick up the flying stuff a lot quicker than you think.
Jep totally agree with your message...go trough it as if in fighter pilot training school
That’s it mate 👍🏻 How do you eat an elephant? One bite at a time…
Start basic and work your way up from there
Great video roadmapping what needs to be done. I’ve been at this for three weeks now P51. Still mastering these basic skills. What if any changes would you make to this plan for mastering warbirds.
Thanks
Started dcs 2 months ago and I have yet master cold start for every aircraft I have. Not to mention, how to land. Flaming cliffs, tomcat, hornet, viper, just straight how to fight 😂😭
P.S = haven't mastered how to control their weapons too 💀
I’d suggest picking one of those modules and focus on learning it completely first before moving on to another one
Great video I just got DCS and the JF-17/FC-1 module a couple of weeks ago and have been messing around using chucks guide and feeling overwhelmed a bit. This has given me a clear plan of action for the next few weeks just nailing down the basics before dealing with the myriad of weapons and radar options the aircraft has.
That’s it mate, get the basics down and then the more advanced is more manageable for your brain to process
Good no nonsense video. I have done something out of this order and as a result I am struggling. Thanks again.
Thanks mate, it is something that is easy to overlook and become frustrated with when you are trying to do something advanced when you don't know the basics first. Hopefully you're on track with it all now and starting to enjoy things
Hi great video not long got DCS and a Hotas one flight stick and throttle looking forward to learn how to fly properly 👍
I can't see how you could have done this much better.
Effin', bang on!
Thanks mate, tried to look at it from when I first started and all the mistakes I made so new players don’t do the same things I did and get better faster
Love your vids, as a noob im slowly starting to learn the F18, cutting corners is not an option i have noticed that myself first hand. Great to have a guide to work with thank you!
Glad they are helping mate!! Appreciate the kind words 🙏🏻
Wel said introduction..!!
Finnaly somebody say's it
The truth is sometimes a hard pill to swallow but it’s true 👌🏻
I'm sprinting for sure.
Gotta slow that sprint down to a crawl mate 🙏🏻 You’ll fast track your proficiency by nailing the basics first
Thank you. I know I'm doing ok now. Thank you thank you.
Glad the video helped you out mate 👍🏻
Thanks! 👍This is just what I needed to hear to confirm what I already knew deep inside. As a young man, my first experience with military flight simming was with Falcon 3.0, 4.0. I was really stoked back in those days just like I am now with DCS World. I remember clearly studying the Falcon manual, I read it from cover to cover 3-4 times and referred to it on a regular basis. I got quite good like you say in the video, but it took patience, perseverance, and religious dedication. Jump to the modern day after decades of not simming and I find myself drawn once again to my beloved F-16! I'd heard about DCS a long time ago, but I knew that my old 10 year computer was no match for any of the current sims. Right around the time the pandemic hit, I bought a custom made PC with the latest and greatest money could by for the sole purpose of getting back into flight simming. When I went to look for a Warthog HOTAS system, they had become very scarce and scalpers wanted more than double the MSRP, so I decided to wait once again. I was very fortunate to find a more normal deal for the HOTAS so I jumped on it and got DCS World and MSFS 2020. I also recently picked up the matching TPR rudder pedals. Anyway, I'm feeling a little overwhelmed by just the mapping of the HOTAS, TPR controls to the vast list of options in DCS, let alone the complexity of the F-16 avionics and flight mechanics in comparison to the now inferior Falcon. I'm slowly and painfully learning how to key bind the mappings of my controllers and learning my way around the user interface. As mentioned before, your video was very re-assuring and helps to drive home the point that patience and dedication is what's needed to get good at DCS. I'm looking forward to learning how to do my first cold start and going on from there. Cheers!
It’s a long journey for sure mate, check out tricker on RUclips for some good F-16 tutorials as well as DCS chucks guide for the F-16.
I need to get some time back up in the viper, it’s been a hot minute
@@TorniQuetHD Thanks for the info. 👍 I'll check it out.
Great Video Sir!
I just bought the F18 module and did a cold and dark start training mission. I was also experimenting with my new Tobii Eye tracker settings. It was nice!
I felt like I was trying to drink from a fire hose. This aircraft is definitely study level. I'll be taking my Chucks guide to work tomorrow to start my training.
Enjoy the deep dive mate, a lot of reading and watching videos ahead but it’s all worth it in the long run
Yeah, I will. I've got almost 1100 hrs in Microsoft flight simulator but DCS definitely ain't that! MSFS did prepare me for memorizing engine start sequences, programming navigation computers and aircraft handling so that part should progress quickly but the radar and weapons deployment are what makes me nervous, lol
I'm struggling with air refueling. I think a combination of trim or Auto throttle might help out though.
Practice formation flying first mate, get decent at that before trying to go for the basket… little stick inputs and constant throttle corrections is the key mate. Set up a big axis curve of 25 or more on pitch and roll if you haven’t already
@@TorniQuetHD oh I've done those things, thanks though. Struggling with not being able to exactly control speed where I either I'm not catching up to the tanker or I'm overshooting it. That's why I was referring to the auto throttle, also paying attention to the tanker calling out its own speed as reference as pretty important.
@@Mike-rt2vp top tip for managing your speed as you approach the tanker is to lock it up with your A2A radar. This gives you your range. Then, as you approach it, make sure that your speed = tanker speed + (distance x 10).
For example, if tanker speed is 300 kts and you’re 10 miles from it, set your speed to 400. Then at 9 miles bring it back to 390, at 8 miles 380, etc. this gives you a nice slow 10kt approach to the tanker at 1 mile.
As you practice and start to get it, you can increase your speed multiplier (e.g. distance x 20).
The intro' summed it up: if you don't have the time or the patience to learn a full fidelity module, don't start.
It is harsh but true... you're just going to get frustrated and quit and end up wasting money on modules and peripherals etc if you don't want to set some serious time aside to learn this stuff.
Thanks a ton for Teaching us newbs greetings from Canada.
Brilliant vid! I know it's not part of the vid's remit but I would like to add TRY TO KEEP CURRENT.
Cheers mate!!
I got DCS a few weeks ago, I bought FC3 and have been having a blast with those planes so far. I flew all of them except the Mig29 thus far. I have around 50 hours into the game and I feel I’ll need a lot more hours before I get bored with the low fidelity models. Also Su27 is the best!
The Su-27 is definitely a beast mate, I love how it looks… just a very sleek and menacing looking airframe 💪🏻 I’m enjoying the FC3 modules too, haven’t really spent much time in them so it’s nice to get to know what they are capable of
Awesome video, this really gives me a sense of grounding on where I should start in my learning progress and sort of a progression bar of where I should be. This is more relieving then it is daunting.
Glad it gave you a bit of a guide of what you're getting yourself into mate. It's a brilliant game but it just needs some time to put in to it to get the hang of your module of choice
@@TorniQuetHD Well I've been eyeing the harrier, module. Im willing to put the time in regardless of the module I truly end up choosing.
@@miloa5833 the harrier is a great module, it can defend itself in a dogfight with aim-9 missiles but it most certainly isn't built for air to air... it has no radar at all so you need to rely on CAP cover or attack areas where air superiority has already been established.
SEAD and ground attack is what it does best and the ability to hover is pretty damn cool too!! very similar to the F18 in terms of cockpit layout too so if you do transition to the hornet one day you won't feel super out of place in the cockpit
@@TorniQuetHD Oh sounds amazing! I was aware of few of those facts, and I won't lie when saying its VTOL capibities were a key deciding factor!
It took me about 60 hours of training to be able to smash first PVP enemy on online server. Self learner here only with ED instruction, I even discovered by myself that doing burner for a few minutes drains all the fuel (wtf? this plane just stops midair? WTF??) With MiG 29A which is my favourite plane. Module is easy to use, bigger problem is tactics to use it efficiently, especially versus much better planes. Now after 160 hours of gameplay I am able to go for a mission, shoot a plane or two and get back, refuel, rearm and get back. On the other hand I started learning Mig21 and its a crazy plane.
Nice work mate!! The mig-29 is a beautiful aircraft… be amazing if we one day get a full fidelity version of it
Really good video, summed it up pretty nicely. Trust me the axis tuning is a must. I’m only decent at the game but only have 253hrs, love the game to chill.
Thanks mate, glad the video hit the mark for you 👍🏻
Ive gone and done exactly what you are saying NOT to do, ive key bound everything and then got confused and lost, ive only totalled about 15hrs of which half was in the f-15c then i purchased the fa-18c so ive had a nightmare making the very mistake you have just pointed out so heres my master plan, im just going to go back to basics learning to start up, take off, fly and then land before i start trying to bomb everything in sight and going kamikaze!
Back to basics and basic flight key binds!
Im having trouble understanding flaps and speed brakes atm, the fa18 has a terrible turn compared to the f15 so how do i bring the nose round to make tight turns?
Thanks for these vids btw, priceless when the chips are down ✌🏼💙✊
I learn all the basics first, how to start up, taxi and take off. Keybind just the basics, as if I'm flying a MSFS 2020 module. After all the basics (keybinds, navigation, take off and landing) are done, I move to the weapon systems, countermeasures, radars....but it takes days/weeks to move in between these two. And even then, there's always something new that you didn't see at the beginning, after 6 months learning the module. Maybe a year later...
This is the way I’d recommend matey ^^^^ longer process but when you get to the end you will be extremely proficient in all aspects of that module and be a great asset to a multiplayer mission or even just doing campaigns etc.
The question is:
have you enough time and patience to learn flying and fight in a plane of DCS?
That is the question for sure mate 👌🏻
The main aircraft I fly are the Huey, Apache and F14. I found the Huey and the Apache were pretty straightforward to start but the F14 looked so daunting, even looked hard in tutorials but I forced myself to learn how to do. Feels so satisfying to hear the whine of the engines come to life..... trimming for Onspeed, actually trimming in general I find really tough even after owning it since lauch day I still can't get it properly trimmed so I can let go of the stick and keep level. Are there any drills you could suggest so that becomes second nature at all?
For the tomcat or the hornet are we talking for on speed trimming?? The tomcat I’ve found you still have to hand fly it a bit, I can’t get it to sit perfectly at on speed like the hornet either, I can get it close but I still have to use the stick for nose authority to keep it looking bang on.
For those who aren’t ready to go full nerd, IL2 is a great middle ground! It’s an excellent combat sim that gets you in the air and in the fight quickly compared to DCS. The flight models aren’t as nuanced and the cockpits aren’t clicky, but you can become and excellent and deadly sim pilot by flying IL2. All the skills you learn in IL2 will make DCS easier to get into as well!
IL2 is a great sim for sure, keybinds are a pain in the ass but it is great to learn in i agree
@@TorniQuetHD ahh yes, I forgot about key binds. It’s been a minute since I mapped that game. They are definitely not intuitive.
@@Spiniker0056 I thought I saw a Developer Diary were they showed an improvement to the IL-2 control menu. I think it was a while ago now.
I do not think the flight model is inferior in il2. Even if you master all procedures you still are a flying cannon fodder as it takes several months even years to get modereately capable in air to air combat. And you will meet in the virtual sky people years ahead of you. Also as all those games have extremely small community (niche) you will meet predominantly more experiences players than your peers and that adds to the frustration.
@@zirgity You should check out the video of the guy flying a real P-51 Mustang and he then compares it to the IL-2 and DCS version's.
Nice video (from a Dirty Hotstarter lol)
Oooh. I see you have the C-101 there. Nice. My fave module.
TBH I have barely touched her 😳
@@TorniQuetHD That's ok. Now you know what your next 15 part tutorial will be on ;)
Great video mate, you are awesome.
Haha cheers mate 🙏🏻
@@TorniQuetHD I sent you a steam friend request as well mate :)
Great video!
Cheers mate 🙏🏻
Great video - just what I’ve needed in the way of a checklist to be ready for a server
It is a good guide for being helpful on multiplayer servers for sure but as long as you’re up front and honest with people on the servers and say that you’re new then most people are considerate and helpful
12:17, how do you have the lat alt showing on screen? i always write em down and take off and on vr google to enter. thanks
Great video. for those adults of us out there, It's just like learning to drive a car, remember how intimating it was when we first started to drive? We have to go thru the whole thing again like we're teenagers before we can do it without thinking and just jump in the car and go to the store like we take for granted every day.
Hit it on the head mate, gotta go back on the L plates for a while
I never felt intimidated when I learnt to drive a car, but then again I was 12 and had nothing to hit apart from the odd tree stump😀 Flying an F/A-18, now that’s intimidating!
Wow, A very good explanation of wow to learn properly ! I will be try to learn your way.. Thank you
Good luck mate, it’s a long journey but it’s well worth it 👌🏻
@@TorniQuetHD I've been playing for months, I'm still rubbish lol... mission editor is superb... I think I have been learning the wrong way ! fingers crossed
@@andrewpowell904 you’ll get there mate, it takes time but it’s well worth it once it all starts clicking into place
Man, you nailed the fact that other flight sims might be a much better choice, considering what is required in DCS to get maximum enjoyment, which for some can be unexpectedly excessive.
I'd plenty of flight sim experience at the time when a friend got me into Battlefield 3 and 4. I stuck with it for maybe 2 years, teaming up with him and a guy in Moscow over Skype. However, I finally abandoned BF to the hacker-cheaters who'd found the exact coordinate on the map from which to spawn-kill, or somehow eluded being kicked for non-stop ramming with aircraft........ I began to notice servers had become arenas where players no longer played but watched and encouraged the curiously immune smegma, complimenting on their hacks and cheats. That friend who'd introduced me to BF lives in it every second he's not at work....... evidently dying within seconds of spawning is really really fun.
I've heard that the same ilk of hackers/cheaters come with online DCS......... those that orbit airfields and spawn-kill, rammers, etc., with little to no enforcement with size 18 boot in the ass to the imbeciles. Not only dedication to learning required but also thick skin for tolerance of the cockroaches.
The barrier to entry for DCS is much higher than an FPS so the trolls generally don’t make it through the learning phase of flying. Don’t get me wrong there is still a few clowns out there but for the most part everyone who flies online and is dominant in the air is generally a good pilot who knows how to fight more than running hacks and cheating.
"I'll bet both my balls on it" - best line from this vid. Also true.
That’s how I roll mate 🏀🍆🏀
I have a question: You mention watching videos in order to understand the deeper functionalities of your aircraft, but would doing the Training Missions included with the aircraft have more or less the same effect, if not slightly better since you're applying the requisite skills in DCS already?
This is a dope video btw i know how to streamline my learning processes and eventually want to master the F/A-18 and F-14
I’m talking from my experience of never having flown an actual study level flight sim before… all of the tutorials went straight over my head, I didn’t understand anything that they were saying so I had to find other avenues to learn in a simpler way because I didn’t understand the pilot lingo etc.
It’s easy to forget Wht it’s like to not know anything at all when you’ve been doing something for so long. The curse of knowledge is a real thing, it’s not always as “simple” as it sounds to someone with no experience to draw from.
RUclips has got so many content creators and tutorial series that one or multiple creators are bound to make sense to you and help you get better 👌🏻 find the resources that help you fast track your learning and take it all in ☺️
@@TorniQuetHD Ahhh i sorta get what you mean
The Training Missions feels more technical (in an unnecessary way) whereas the few YT Vids i've seen cut to the chase and i found that the YT Vids get to me faster XD
Yeah that’s it, if you have a background and understanding of aviation terminology etc the tutorials are probably fine or learn from but if you are not familiar with terms and jargon they use it can be lost in translation. Finding your learning source that suits you is all that matters in the end, whether it be from the built in training tutorials or YT videos or online documentation like chucks guides 👌🏻👌🏻
@@TorniQuetHD this is a great way to put it and I was seriously struggling with this so badly. I must have restarted the cold start training mission for my first module about 30 times before I eventually gave up and came back to DCS later and just watched RUclips videos on it. Everything they were saying made zero sense to someone like me who had no idea about the technical side of aviation. I think how you learn and practice is just as important as the practice itself, I mean I spent like 8+ hours doing that cold start mission and could still barely start the aircraft.
Wait... I am supposed to take time to learn a highly realistic simulation of a complicated, real world flying machine?! Damn!
Crazy concept I know 🤪🤪
Great vid! Too many times I've run into people in my group that get DCS, buy a module and the first flight they are try to dogfight or bomb targets and crash or get shot down and they blame it on the game. I do have a question for you though. In the waypoint section what is the opaque snip tool you use for copying coordinates? Keep up the good work!
Went to your home page and found the video on the scratch pad, thanks!
Yeah I’ve seen the exact same thing happen too mate, hence the hard truth at the start of the vid 👌🏻 yeah DCS scratchpad it is buddy
Good video and lots of useful advise, BUT this is a game and not real life. Above can be described as the «HARDCORE» way.
Remember there is SEVERAL ways to reach the goal.
Not all DCS players can learn is such a rigid and structured way. Others do not have that many hours to play each week, but you still can ENJOY DCS!
I agree with you that it takes MANY hours to be proficient in a module. That is why I now only fly a few modules on a regular basis, even if I have bought/setup/flown most of them.
Remember to once in a while during training to go drop some bombs and do some silly things and not strictly follow all above steps above in video, otherwise you may/will be bored.
Main goal of the game is to have FUN 😉. For me this ia achieved by completing a mission with all steps succesfully (from cold start to shutdown). But it is not needed to have a good time.
PS: Have played DCS for years with a few thousand hours experience, so I am one of the addicted ones 😂
Agree totally mate, my reasoning for the above approach is to get the most enjoyment out of the sim by flying structured and complex missions where you need to have the basics down before the cooler stuff.
By all means have a crack at doing stuff like bombing and the rest but you just won’t be as effective or proficient as you could be if you try and sprint before you’ve learnt to crawl.
I know a guy who did that and it took me a long time to go back to the basics and re-learn the proper way to get better so it is from my experience of never flown in a flight sim to where I am now that I draw from 👌🏻
There is something satisfying for me anyways when you finally nail something you’ve been working really hard on getting the hang of so all of that frustration makes the victory taste much sweeter when you get it dialled in.
@@TorniQuetHD Thanks for the reply and love your turorials btw 😉
@@Mightymoose02 thanks for the comments too mate, love hearing from all of you guys!!
Thanks
Hope it helps 👌🏻
I am f18 certified thx to u
Hey do you use curvature for the f18? I leave it as linear. I wonder what is the most realistic.
Sure do mate, I run 15 for pitch roll and yaw… started at 25 for all of them though
I’ve shot down so many Tankers trying to mid air refuel.😅
Oh yeah the rage is real when you’re first starting out… I would get a sore jaw and arms from being so tense concentrating. Now it is effortless, just takes practice to get the procedure down, once you get it it’s just another part of flight that is second nature
Dude, great video again. I made (continue to make LOL) very mistakes you mention. Speaking of curves, how are you liking your new pedals, and how the heck do you keep your office chair from moving/swiveling when using any pedals?
I’m lucky my pc is set up in a room with carpet so I don’t slide on the floor but in my previous house I had tiles so I had to go to Amazon and buy some bell glides I believe they were called. Swaps out with your wheels for a pad type thing if that makes sense
@@TorniQuetHD awesome, I will check them out! Do you do anything with the swiveling office chair?
My awesome wife took the twins out for a drive so I just fired up Raven One: Dominant Fury!
@@ColonelAkirNakesh I just bought that! Going to get into it this weekend I think. Raven one OG campaign will be on hold for a bit I think haha. The swivel chair thing doesn’t really bother me, I just reset my trackIR center every now and then. If you watch my videos you will see what looks like a glitch when the camera snaps back to center real quick when I reset my head tracking. I do it so much I don’t even remember doing it half the time now
Yeah since it's a prequel you can do them chronologically like when my kids are old enough for Star Wars 😂
For playing MSFS, I cut a piece of plywood to a shape that fits with some stuff under my desk and cut 2 slots on the back end that trap 2 of the chair wheels. There's still some wiggle room, but it does a good job of keeping the chair in place relative to the controls.
Truth Bomb In Yo Face!!!! Get off that carrier noob!! Great vid bro. TBH I rely completely on your tutorials and a few other choice creators, when I’m learning new modules. Sure there are folks out there that jump in and go, but like you said, the level of frustration is high. I would go so far as to say the level of frustration is directly proportional to the amount of pre-learning and practice one does.
I absolutely find your videos are what help me with that. Maybe someone else finds a different tutorial series helpful. Bottom line is…find the help somewhere. You will have such a better experience if you do some research first. Thanks again Tourni! I appreciate your time and effort put in to helping us become proficient.
Exactly mate, I know I’m not everyone’s cup of tea. The main thing is that you do the research, find someone whos teaching style makes sense to you and then apply all of it to your flying to improve.
Do you offer paid 1 on 1 lessons on the hornet?
Some genius programmer should build a "Pilot Training Module' that mimics a military fighter pilot regime.
I believe the raven one campaign team with Baltic dragon are looking at making one that is targeted at how it would be going through flight school with the hornet. Learning actual procedures and the like. I hope they do make it because I would be all over that
@@TorniQuetHD I'd pay good money for that!
Good opening spiel
Thanks mate, the truth hurts sometimes but it’s for the greater good in the long run 🙏🏻🙏🏻
@@TorniQuetHD 100% DCS can be one of the most rewarding experiences you can get from a game, and a commitment not everyone realises until they try. So you giving people a heads up is in my opinion super helpful. 👌
I learned about track while scan before I learned how to land, LOL.
That is a lot of peoples problem mate don’t stress, but the basics help with the advanced for sure
@@TorniQuetHD I think you're 95% right. I think it's okay for newbies to play around with some stuff for a bit, which can be a little fun, but then they got to start "going to school" as you pretty much described.
What? You mean I'm not supposed to drop into random Discord channels and announce "HI I just bought the Hornet, I demand that somebody spend their personal time teaching me everything about it but I refuse to do any studying on my own."
Yes. That happens.
Alot
Haha yeah some people do that… a bit of kindness and gratitude goes a long way from the people seeking help, and yes agree also do your own research at the same time to compliment your learning
Great stuff.
One tip I'd add to the binds section, is to clear out all the axis binds that DCS "helps" by automatically setting up for you (eg you also have your xbox controller plugged into your PC, but primarily use a HOTAS).
Without doing this, other controllers can interfere in comical ways with any axis binds you do have set.
Very true!!! Forgot that one!!
just to remind ..
arma and war thunder aren't as deep and complicated as DCS .. but at the same time they are not as casual as BF or ace combat or hawx ...they need practicing for not a short while
Agree mate, def have a challenge to learn but no where near as hard to get good in those compared to DCS
800 hours of DCS and im still watching how to get good videos🤣😭
Me too mate, I always learn new things all of the time. It’s what makes it so addictive, there is so much to learn and not enough time to learn it all
You need 10 minutes it’s not that difficult
I can only encouage everybody to give DCS a Chance, search help online if u like. The community is very helpful and its so much fun to do air to air dogfight if you are a little bit into the Game after a while!
It is an amazing sim!!! Just takes a bit of time and dedication to get your head around the modules
nope, just a simpilot!!!