Kansas City's New $1.5 Billion Airport
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- Опубликовано: 31 июл 2024
- Kansas City is the largest city in Missouri, and is home to one of the most infamous airports in the country. Opening back in the 1950s, the MCI airport featured 3 terminals with an interesting thin c shape, built with the premis of only being a few steps from the entrance to your gate. While that design worked fine back then, the airport can be a nightmare post 9/11 security, with all of the shops, restaurants, and other conveniences being on the wrong side of security. To solve this problem, city officials are building a brand new terminal from scratch that will fix the awkward layout of the existing airport. This is Kansas City’s New $1.5 Billion Airport!
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Hey guys, just a small correction. At the beginning of the video, I said that MCI opened in the 50s, but I meant to say that the old downtown airport opened in the 50s and MCI opened in 69-70. Sorry for the confusion.
Also, the downtown airport was opened at least in the 1930s, maybe before. A terminal was dedicated by Charles Lindbergh in the 1930s.
Thank you for covering my hometown's new airport. Many Kansas Citians did not like the new terminal idea because it would take away the drop off and walk straight to your gate but after many years (and threats from Kansas on opening a new single terminal) the city finally moved forward with the project. The drop off, walk up to gate was great or locals but the current airport was cramp and gloomy. It lacked amenities and was not a great first impression to the rest of the world. Keep up the great work! Love these airport and architecture videos.
No problem! Thanks for watching!
KANSAS CITY IS NOT IN KANSAS OMFG IT IS IN MISSOURI!!!!! KANSAS CITY, MISSOURI GET IT RIGHT! IF YOU CAN'T GET WHAT STATE YOU ARE IN, THEN LEAVE!!
@@johnwesleyhuss2327 so I live in Kansas City, KS. We all know the airport is in KCMO And I guess you didn’t read my comments right where Kansas was sending threats to KCMO that it would build a new airport if KCMO DID NOT.
@@joshxyooj I live in kansas to about an hour north of the airport......
I most certainly agree with you the old airport was not welcoming at all
The current airport is great if you travel once every five years. But I travel 2-3 times a month and it is more of a chore than the bigger airports. Once you are past security and in the gate you have the choice of a candy bar or a bottle of water at the concession. It is cramped and uncomfortable. I cannot wait for the new terminal!!
Yeah, the new terminal will be a big upgrade! Thanks for watching!
It feels like the airport has been in construction for ages now. Can’t wait to see it finished
One of my earliest memories when I was a little kid was taking someone to fly out of the old downtown airport. It's still an active corporate airport. I actually remember when MCI was still brand new (yeah I'm old). Drive to the gate was nice, but honestly that was the only thing that was nice. It's terribly outdated now and the new airport is a welcome sight as it is under construction.
Cool!
Your not that old.
The new airport has not paused construction since the pandemic started. It is on budget and on time.
You are right, the airport has resumed construction. Should've realized that before making this video.
@@jonesrmj it never stopped. Still a good video
@@aaronlenig6839 Oh ok, you are right. I just checked my source, and must've gotten it confused with another airport.
Btw, these videos look like they take a TON of time to make. You seriously deserve more subs. 1.77K is extremely low for a channel this great!
Thanks!
I live in the KC area, but have traveled to many cities. The best part of MCI is that you can get dropped off and picked up with ease. It is important that you eat before you go or land because there isn't a great selection of eating places at MCI. No, it isn't a good looking airport, but functional.
I'm glad that they are building a new airport. KC is a nice place to live, but we don't have the star power like other cities because of most of the small minded people that live here. I'm glad that we will be able to share our city with new people once the new terminals open.
Very well researched history of the airports. I remember eating a delicious dinner in the restaurant that overlooked the tarmac at the old downtown airport and appreciating the short walk from my car to the airplane (when I was running late!) at the new airport. Times sure have changed!
Thanks for watching!
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Thanks!
@jonesrmj, once again a great job describing new aviation facilities. KC will probably never become a hub, but an updated design will serve the population well.
I never said in the video that it will become a hub. I said that it used to be a hub for TWA back then when they used to exist.
@@jonesrmj It's all good!
I like it. We did a virtual tour of the old one and can see a big upgrade here
Supposedly, TWA also considered a landside-airside design, similar to Tampa International, which opened at about the same time. They scoffed at the costs, though. Sometimes I wonder what KCI would be like today if they'd gone with a Tampa-like design. Tampa's one of my favorite airports, and the airside terminals would make for easy connections.
Even without taking security into account, it's hard to believe they thought the ring terminals would be able to accommodate a 747's worth of passengers disembarking and checking in. I guess modeling passenger capacity for a given space is a newer science than I thought it was.
That would be interesting. Thanks for watching!
Wichita did the same thing to their terminal. They also used the glass jetways. Interestingly Mid Continent Airport
Yeah.
KCI has allot of land area where they can expand. They can add several parallel runways on the western side of the airport. Great location for a hub airport.
Yeah. It’s not a hub airport since TWA left and eventually went out of business, but who knows if it becomes one again in the future!
They already been there done that tried that for a hub airport. Not enough local traffic for a hub and too many large hubs in close proximity. It's not going to be hub anymore.
@@johniii8147 Yeah that's true.
Since you're doing videos about major airport expansions or renovations, Pittsburgh would be a great candidate to profile since they're completely rebuilding their existing airside terminal, which dates back to the 1990s when USAir had their hub at PIT (before they bailed and moved their major hub operations to PHL and CLT).
That is a good idea! Thanks for watching!
The old MCI was easily in my top 10 worst US airports.
Yeah, good thing they are improving the design!
@@jonesrmj Worst part, I flew armed for work so needed to get through security a bit early. Once through you were stuck.
Great to see that our airport terminals are starting to look like modern chinese airports and not just a boring square building
Agreed!
The Drive to Your Gate terminal concept was popular in the early 1970's. This type of terminal was used at DFW Airport in 1974. Shortly after opening in 1972, this terminal was rendered obsolete when security checkpoints were mandated at all US airports. Curve-Linear terminals are great for locals but lousy for connecting hubs. TWA found this out the hard way after millions were spent. These terminals were built with saving money in mind. Early on TWA specified they did not want people movers and that mechanical conveyance systems (like elevators or escalators) be kept to minimum. TWA should have asked for a Centralized terminal with piers or a Finger-Dock design like that of the old ATL, MIA or ORD. It would have worked out a lot better.
Good points!
The biggest issue with Kansas City's curvilinear design is that the terminals were not built with sufficient depth. At DFW, the terminals were built deep enough to accommodate adequate space on both side of security (which facilitated the use of DFW as a hub) but KC's airport doesn't have that luxury. Beyond security, KCI is very narrow with little room for any facilities (shops, restaurants and restrooms) and the movement from gate to gate is hampered by lack of space. All that translates into a very uncomfortable gate situation for passengers. If you are travelling alone and arrive late to the airport, it can be convenient. For everyone else; people who arrive earlier, families, business travelers from out of town or if your flight gets delayed, it can be a pretty miserable experience.
@@markb3806 Yeah agreed!
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Question of the Day - What do you think of Kansas City's New Airport?
I think it looks nice. 3:22 it almost looks like Mickey Mouse lol! :)
Nice observation lol!
You should do a video on the history of passenger air in Atlanta and how it came to be the busiest airport in the world
That’s a good idea!
@@jonesrmj I am old enough to remember the previous airport in the 80's before they built a new one
Correction.... KCI opened in 1972! Excited for the new single terminal. I have a flight out of it on March 6th and return on March 10th.
Love it 😍! Yes I do! ⚾️⚾️⚾️⚾️
Interesting video. A couple of comments. I do not think the major cause of the Continental plane running off the runway was the airport being too small. I lived in KC at the time and remember the cause was the 707 hydroplaned during a heavy rain and the brakes did not hold. The too small part may be because there was not enough runoff room at the end of the runway. Interesting that one thing that came from that accident was that Kansas City and other airports began to cut grooves in the runway to move the water. Now it's a normal thing. Secondly the "C" design was a great idea when the airport was conceived. That was before the hub system and security. Some of us remember when you could nearly always get non-stop service to many, many major cities. Then suddenly after airline deregulation the hub system came into fashion. KC was once the hub for Braniff. It's no fun to fly now knowing that nearly every flight will mean a connection through Dallas, Denver, Chicago, Phoenix, Atlanta, etc. Oh for the days of non-stop service.
Yeah, good points. Thanks for watching!
I fly into this airport twice a month and it's pretty easy to navigate threw definitely a good airport
The satellite view of the Kansas City Airport definitely looks like a number 4 at 0:51
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Just a note: they never paused construction of the much-needed new terminal.
Yeah I know, somebody else told me in the comments too! I mistook it for another airport, I’m sorry about that.
I can't wait for the new airport to open up. It will give everyone in KC a lot of new non-stop flights and still have a convenient design. Also the pandemic has not put the airport on hold, they have been working strong through it and are ahead of schedule.
Yeah it’s definitely a much needed upgrade! Thanks for watching!
You should make the video from upcoming Indian Airports. From there you'll get a number of Airports.
Bihta Int'l Airport, Patna, India
Mopa Int'l Airport, Goa, India
Kalyani Airport, Kolkata, India
New Chennai Int'l Airport, Chennai, India
Thanks for the suggestions!
The current design worked untill the city installed security walls and closed terminal A you used to be able to park walk in even if you were not flying that day and watch the ground crews.
TWA moved to st louis. And went bankrupt. Southwest demanded these changes and won't even use kansas city as a main hub and rebuild center
TWAS overhaul buildings sat empty for years.
Some local residents loved the short walk to the gate so much, that they once had Santa Clause bribe the city clerk with Christmas cookies in hopes she would stop the construction of this new terminal.
Actually?
@@jonesrmj well it was someone dressed as Santa of course. Here's a video of santa Santa Clause bribing the city clerk with Christmas cookies: ruclips.net/video/ej3s-y7YRXU/видео.html
I like the new airport design for MCI. The last time that I went there, the terminals were dark, cramped, and you couldn't really get much more than a candy bar and a bottle of water in terms of food or drink. Worse, the terminals had no connection with each other, so if you arrived at one terminal, and had your departure at another terminal, you were almost entirely out of luck. I hope that if they do similar replacements for the other terminals, that they at least include underground walkways between terminals, or maybe a people mover.
Yeah, I like the new terminal design as well!
Hey, I know I’m late, but I just wanted to kindly point out that you never have to go from one terminal to the next because it’s just simply impossible with the way it’s set up, so if your flying Southwest for example, you’ll go to the terminal where Southwest is😁
@@taxiway207 There is even to this day occassional interline travel booked as one ticket between Delta (B) and United (C), American (C) and Alaska (C). That involves going from terminal C to B or vice versa if you're on Delta for one of the legs. Southwest, Allegiant, Spirit and Frontier do not have interline agreements so one would stay with that airline unless they bought 2 seperate tickets, which could happen I suppose. There is a Red Bus that shuttles people between terminals. It is faster to walk outside between the two terminals most times (4 minutes outside) vs 10 minutes claimed frequency of the Red Bus which is optimistic. Not great if the weather is bad, not to mention unnecessary pollution created by having to use a bus to go from one terminal to another. The new KCI will fix a great many inefficiencies.
@@mciramp688 yes, very excited for it😆
It only took Kansas City a couple of decades to realize their terminals were the biggest hindrance to being anybody’s hub. They were never designed to handle today’s level of security. At thispoint there has been so much consolidation in the industry that short of some wacky startup, it never will be.
There’s nothing wrong with a large non-hub airport having a modern user-friendly airport. It’s long overdue.
Absolutely agree! Thanks for watching!
I dislike it because, now you have too much traffic coming into one area... The 3 terminal was the best, in and out and you're back on the highway.
What’s your home airport?
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I kind of liked the idea of designing an airport around short walking distance. I think that for an airport like Kansas City where their is no hub the idea would work. But Kansas City has been rumored to want to become an airline hub so I can see why they chose a more inconvenient design for terminating passengers
Kansas city will never get a air line hub
dknowles60 it could as a lot of cities are already occupied. Salt Lake is a Delta Hub so Kansas City could be one too
@@G-546 not. its in the wrong place. the only reason delta is in salt lake is it was a western air lines hub and delta merge with western airlines
dknowles60 Whenever their are rumors of an existing airline trying to expand into a traditional airline Kansas City is always brought up as a potential hub.
@@G-546 Not by anyone with any real knowledge of the industry. It's been tried several times and just don't have the local traffic for any significant connecting hub and many large hubs in close proximity.
Here's a good video update on progress, btw: ruclips.net/video/AqS7eory2VI/видео.html
i know i’m a bit late but are they going to demolish all the old terminals as well.
Yes I’m pretty sure.
The parking garage for terminal B will be used for employee parking it’s a short walk from the new terminal
As a KC resident, I love the old airport. Longest I've had to wait in a TSA line was 20 mins the day before Thanksgiving. Arrive 30 minutes before the flight and go. MCI is not a layover airport so really not much of a need for restaurants next to the gates. Ill take that minor inconvenience over standing in an hour long line at Seatac or Atlanta
20 minutes is honestly pretty average. When I’ve been to airports, even big ones like O’Hare, I’ve almost always cleared security in less than 20 minutes.
So? I travel all over the USA and world and 20 minutes is average. I have actually waited in some of the longest most annoying lines at MCI because when they have more than one flight departing from a gate area at once, things bog down real fast there. In other airports, they just open more TSA lanes if things get busy. MCI you can't do that and you end up with long lines. The ONLY positive thing about KCI is if you arrive from a flight, and you have no bags checked, you are at the curbs in literally a minute. But that's hardly worth all the other inconveniences as I can do that any just about any other airport in less than five minutes and most of the time I check bags anyway. MCI has been an embarrassment to KC for quite some time now. This is long overdue.
I travel a lot and I probably travel through SeaTac more than any airport in the US. I cannot recall every waiting more than 20 minutes at SeaTac. In fact, not sure if I recall ever waiting more than a half hour anywhere with the exception of Las Vegas in the last 10 years.
@@markb3806 Used to live in seattle 2012 to 2019. It has just gotten worse and worse there. I flew out of seatac easter sunday at 5 am and the line was about 20 minutes then. The great thing they have is the ability to ramp up throughput while MCI really has a max of 2 scanner per section to get people through.
KCI Opened in 1969-1970 not the 50s.
Yes, I said the old downtown airport was build then and that the new airport was build in the 70s.
@@jonesrmj I watched it again and you said MCI and then talked about old municipal airport, but whatever. The airport opened in 1969 not the 70's. Also look at your own intro..."Opening back in the 1950's, the MCI airport featured three terminal..." You had several factual errors in the story. I lived in Kansas City for 50 years. Your story was poorly researched.
@@michaelp.jeffers7930 Ok looking back, yeah I did make it sound confusing because I was mixing things up, I should’ve been more clear. But what I’m generally saying is correct.
Do the remodel of pdx next
Thanks for the suggestion!
The current airport was built in the 70s.
Yes. I said that the old downtown airport was built before then, and that the new airport was built in the 70s.
So what are they going to do with terminal B in C disappointed to hear there’s only 39 gates with a maximum of 50 that’s less than what the three terminal design offered unlikely we will get an airline to call Kansas City at home with those few of Gates plus I didn’t hear anything about more international flights with larger jets arriving the design is pretty but I think it fall short of what Kansas City needed
I think the old terminals are all getting demolished. Remember though, Kansas City isn’t a hub anymore so there isn’t a need for a lot of gates.
The gates at the current KCI aren't much bigger than a shoebox. If you have a 737 departing out of an end gate like 31, 60, 61, there are passengers on the flight who cant even queue in the gate because there isn't enough room. These new gates will have much more room. I think KC residents will come to love the new design.
Please Do KPHL 😭😭 (Philadelphia International Airport)
There are no major projects going on at PHL that I’m aware of.
So what will be done with the other two terminals, or are they in better condition?
I think this new terminal is replacing the old ones.
@@jonesrmj Maybe KCI will only operate one terminal.
Terminal B and C will be torn down
@@keithallen7602 Said in the KCI website right?
@@defencover7697 Correct....that way if/when the time comes to expand KCI will have more than enough room to add additional gates or a whole other Terminal/Concourse
We need 747 airlines plane came to Kansas Missouri please..
The new terminal International gate is capable of accommodating a category 5 commercial aircraft, that includes the A380. The new terminal will open doors that were closed by the outdated design of the current facility.
Did the remaining “ C” shaped terminals will be demolished after the new terminal is opened????
I'm pretty sure yes.
yes
Yep. The exterior steel is starting to fail. It's lived past its useful life. The two parking garages sitting in the B and C terminals will not be torn down. Employees will park in the B ramp, saving the airport over a million dollars a year.
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If anyone thinks any airline will make this city a hub I hate to burst your bubble but there is absolutely no way that will happen. Unless they build another terminal.
TWA airlines back then used to have a hub here, but they then moved to St. Louis and eventually got bought by American. Since then, no airlines have had a hub here.
Kansas City needs to just concentrate on getting back some of the Southwest traffic they lost to St Louis and Denver by dragging their feet so long on this airport. KCI could have been a major airport if it were rebuilt back in the 90's or early 2000's, but everybody was so worried about having to walk a little further so the airport lost a lot of relevancy over the past 20 years. Airlines stopped wanting to make KCI a focus city. Frequent flyers avoid the airport like the plague. KCI lost a lot of flights to other cities and now most flights from KCI go to a handful of hubs. So people walked less at KCI, but have to use two airports to get to many places. Makes no sense. I don't live in KC anymore and hated KCI when I lived there. I really hate it now as a non local. This project is decades overdue.
I doubt KCI will become a hub in the traditional sense, especially as the three mainline carriers have consolidated their hubs over the last 10-20 years. There is a good chance we could become more of a focus city for Southwest, however. Terminal 2 (the former East Terminal) at STL is essentially at maximum capacity, although they have repurposed some of the former D gates for use. Southwest is already KCI's biggest carrier, but the existing terminals don't make layovers easy. A brand-new terminal with room for expansion could entice Southwest to move some of their flights from STL, or at least slow their expansion there while adding more flights here.
@@jonesrmj Actually, several airlines attempted to make KCI a hub after TWA left. Braniff and Eastern are two airlines that did plus a couple of smaller airlines. Unfortunately, both Eastern and Braniff were in financial trouble when they opened their KCI hub and both airlines eventually went bankrupt. KCI's 3 terminal configuration makes it an inefficient and unlikely hub and I suspect lack of competition by a dominant airline was the biggest draw to KC as a hub. That situation has changed with the emergence of SW at KCI making it less likely to attract even a startup as a hub but a better more efficient KCI could be attractive to a bigger operation for SW.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braniff_(1983%E2%80%931990)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Air_Lines
As a regular visitor to Kansas City, I have often commented that KC is the worst airport I have ever travelled to. The terminals are like giant cement caves with no amenities. Congrats to the leaders of KC for for having the vision to build a new airport that will be an amazing welcome for visitors to KC, the hidden gem of the midwest. I remember the first time I visited KC was in January, several years ago. I got their late in the evening and had to stand out on the center curb with a frigid wind and snow hoping that rental car bus would come. There was no place to eat in the airport. It was a terrible welcome to KC. Let's hope they get rid of the "stand on the center curb" to wait for a rental car bus. I have also had to stand in the rain waiting on that center curb. The new airport terminal design looks amazing and I expect the locals to be proud. My only complaint will be that the airport is so far to the north outside the city. Sadly, my relatives and my business always takes me to the Southeast of KC, so the drive is really long.
I get what you are saying about the distance from MCI to the SE side of KC, but the airport is in the city limits of Kansas City, and the Northland is leading Kansas City's growth.
While some credit is due to our city leaders, the ultimate credit goes to the voters of KC who approved the project after several earlier vote-downs. It will be awesome and the walk from the new mega-garage isn't as bad as you think!
It is a new TERMINAL not airport.
Yes.
All this for "additional restaurants." Basically no one wanted to go back to the 1960's but it was railroaded through. SWA didn't think it was needed either.
I live here in Kansas City .
I wish they weren't building the new airport.
I think it's one of the best airports in the world you can get right out of your car and walk right up to your gate.
Most the people at that airport are from Kansas now. Read about all the white flight and urban decay from kcmo. Kcmo is a poverty stricken city full of crime. The new airport was a waste of money.
1.5 billion dollars wasted . Everyone who supported this will see its not worth it.