Should you live in Melbourne? | Pros and cons of living in Melbourne
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- Опубликовано: 28 май 2024
- Today, I'm sharing what I love and don't love about Melbourne. I've lived here since 2015 so these are some pros and cons I wish I knew before moving here! I hope you find this video helpful, thanks for watching!
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spoiler alert: i love Melbourne (if it wasn’t already obvious from my vlogs!) :P
Great video. I had lived in both Perth and Melbourne as well and love both cities. 😂 Could you do a video on Perth or compare Melbourne to Perth? Thank you very much!😄👍
My first day in Melbourne was in January of 2010, it was 36 C at noon by 3pm it was 15c🤔 I was in total shock 😲
wild weather haha!
Sounds exciting. I am so bored of our weather here. Forever humid and hot. When overseas colleagues asked how is the weather, I said same. 🥱
Youd be surprised if you came to the north of Mexico, mornings are 10 C and noons can be up to 40 C
New Zealand Weather is also crazy
The weather is so naughty🤣
Love your perspective on Melbs! As someone who has lived here my whole life, it all feels normal to me, I don’t notice the tricky bits! Also explains why when I travel I’m often disappointed in the food scene as I’ve been spoilt by the amazing options here!
Aw I’m glad you enjoyed this!! Yesss melb food scene is amazing! 😍
Cool, when you travel where tho?
Very similar description to Barcelona, if you ever wanted to visit!
love the city except the annoying push on afl
Thank you for going straight to the point and keeping it concise! Your energy is calming and fun~
Thanks for this lovely comment Maureen!
i'm still learning english but this video make the english classes so fun, thank you!!! :D
So happy to hear! Thanks so much for watching ☺️
Everyone, and I do mean everyone, critiques the weather. For me though, it’s just about the main thing I’d wanna live there for. That’s one of the most unique things in the world.
Such a lovely take ☺️
Love it. Really useful!
Glad to hear, thanks for watching!
Melbourne weather!!!!! I agree 100% 4 seasons in 1 day isn't a lie. Layer up your clothes, take an umbrella, sunscreen, sunnies, an extra warm jacket and carry all in a big bag. 🤣
From an x-qlder and semi Perth-ite. Love Melbourne though!! 🥰
Hahaha always gotta be prepared 😂 thanks for watching!
Spot on with driving in Melbourne, especially in the Cbd. Great video overall :))! Subbed
Thanks Hyu! Appreciate it ☺️
As someone who has been visiting Melbourne for years and who is planning on moving by the end of the year, I think your pros and cons were right on the money. I find driving in Melbourne incredibly scary too!! I intend to bring my car, but will only use it if I have to e.g. will be using public transport to get around, day-to-day. I love the public transport system there, it really is very good, overall. I think Melbourne has the best vibe of any city I have ever been to; whatever your ethnic background, you are just part of the mix. And of course, the food is amazing! Now to keep on looking for apartments....
Thanks for commenting Monica! All the best with the move to Melbourne!! Excited for you 🤩
Love your view on the different cultures and diversities/profiles of the suburbs here. Having lived in Perth for most of my life,you don't really have that. So true about having to travel out to get to a beach, let alone a nice one. Cottesloe stands out so so much. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Thanks Adrian! I definitely miss the Perth beaches 🤩
Thank you for the info! I’m thinking about moving to Melbourne to study, so I would love to see the financial side of the story as well. Lovely video and straight to the point.
P.S. the weather changes doesn’t bother me too much because I already live in a city where is so random, you have to dress in layers and always carry an umbrella 🌂
How I can go to Melbourne for study
Will be hard getting affordable housing
Thanks for your video. Loved it.
So happy to hear! Thanks for watching grace 🥰
Great video and beautiful presentation, Jamie 😍👍 Keep your wonderful work going 👍 Greetings from Melbourne 👍
Thank you!
I would love to visit Melbourne one day, it looks so beautiful!!😍 I love how you edited this jamie, so well done! I’m not the best driver either, I can only imagine my struggle driving around there lol! That’s awesome there are so many shows in Melbourne and free ones too! Would def be interested in seeing how much it costs to live in Melbourne!
Aw thanks so much Cleo!! Yes you gotta visit, I think you’d love this city 😍 appreciate you watching!
Very insightful! Thanks a lot fot the video!
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Glad you found it helpful, thanks for watching!
I'm born and lived all my life in Sydney and am moving to Europe soon but if I ever came back to Australia Melbourne is where I would go. Amazing city.
Wow all the best with the move to Europe! 🤩
@@SundayswithJamie Vente pa' Madrid amiga!
ahh love ur vids! so well put together
Thanks viannca! ☺️
This seems to be a very nice place, I hope I can visit sometime in the future. Seeing and sharing places like this is why I love traveling and make videos so much! And please keep up the great job! Subscribed!!
thanks so much for watching!
Good evaluation skills and efforts to deliver each vignette but it has not rained for a long time now. Have a very Happy Easter!
Being from Melbourne this city has everything if you love restaurants bars live music and art it's the place to be xx
so true! Thanks so much for watching, Meg :)
I'm moving there next week! I love it there !!!
So exciting! All the best with the move ☺️
Love your videos - thanks for sharing. :)
Thanks so much for watching 🥰
As someone seriously considering moving to Melbourne, I found this very helpful thank you!
I’m so happy to hear, thank you!
Nice video. Greetings from Sydney. Been to MEL around 5 times in total, but haven't been there since 2015. I reckon the Yarra River / Southbank area is so beautiful. Also like the Southern Cross Station area where we stayed at (Holiday Inn).
Thank you! Agree about the Yarra River area - so stunning! There's a few more waterfront restaurants that have opened up in the area which is lovely. Sounds like it's time for your next Melb trip :D
Great vid! Considering moving to Melbourne next year to attend university, this video means everything to me! I’m looking forward to the cost-of-living vid.
Thanks so much for watching!! And huge thanks for your DM - gave me the inspo to film this! 🥰
@@SundayswithJamie wao I didn’t expect you recognize me! Please keep up with this, all of your vids are very helpful for me!
@@uyennguyenphuong889 aw of course! Thank you so much, means a lot 🥰
Great🙏 I went tbere in 2016.My daughter and son were given full scholarships in their Masters degree in Melbourne. I really love the place because Australia is a very peaceful and progressive country. Thank you 👍😀
I remember Melbourne in the early 60’s. In the suburb where I lived we had a couple of fish n chip shops and a Chinese restaurant. If you wanted takeaway you had to bring your own saucepan. Now you can eat in a different country everyday for a year. Hook turns are easy. As for the beaches at least you’re not getting swept out to New Zealand.
I've moved here 3 months ago from Brisbane and I must say that it was a right decision :) I love this city! Thanks for your video! I subscribed ;)
Happy for you!! Thanks so much for watching ☺️
What are the advantages and disadvantages between both cities?
Your vlogs are so awesome. Never regretted since I subscribed.
I am currently in the process of applying PR from Malaysia and I totally agree with your pros and cons. Especially the pros. Your video today just reminded me of why I wanted to move 😍
This means so much to me! Thanks so much for watching 😊 good luck with your PR application!!
You can consider coming to Sydney too. =) But on the other hand, MEL property prices are much more reasonable compared to Sydney.
Love your videos💚
Thank you so much! 🥺☺️
Jamie I'm also from Perth (north of the river, not too far from the ocean) and have also lived in Melbourne for years and years. I miss Perth/WA beaches too! 😭 I was a "water baby" growing up, thankfully my lifestyle isn't beach-dependent as an adult but I'd still like to have the option of being able to go to a great suburban beach without leaving the city.
I actually like the changeability of Melbourne's weather, for the most part, because I know that if there's a scorching 40 degree day there's a good chance of the heat breaking tomorrow. A reprieve. Whereas in Perth summers it's just way too damn hot, over and over.
And I empathise with those memories of musicians skipping Perth!
I'll add a pro: Because there are lots of people in Melbourne who are from elsewhere, I think it's easier to strike new friendships, people on the whole are less insular and less limited to their existing/longstanding friend groups.
And a con: How long the winters are. I don't mind the cold so much, but winter seems to start earlier and end much later here than in Perth.
That’s so cool that you’re from Perth as well, Joanne!! That’s such a good point about the weather, I really struggled during summer in Perth haha and yes!! Feel like Melbourne’s winter lasts very long. Completely agree with you about making new friends here ☺️
Thanks so much for watching and commenting, really appreciate it! 🥰
I love cities that are diverse! I definitely love that its so rich in diversity and that there is such cool festivals! :)
Same here!! Thanks so much for watching Alex 🥰
i loved all your broll, it was so helpful!! new sub xx
Great to hear! Thanks so much for subscribing Lea!
Regarding the beaches in Melbourne - Melbourne is on the Yarra River ( joined by the Maribynong River) which empties into huge Port Phillip Bay which empties into Bass Strait. The greater city area wraps around the bay on the east and west. There are quite are a number of beaches on both sides of the bay. Then there are more beaches on the Mornington and Bellarine Peninsulas and the open sea not too far away.
The public transport is insanely good, my average wait for a tram is 3.5 minutes. I’m Adelaide my average wait for a bus was 20 minutes!
Yess, definitely agree!
I agree with Con #2: Roads. Having been living in Perth for the better part of the last decade, getting stuck in traffic for TWO-AND-A-HALF HOURS in Melbourne was shocking! Everything else has a lovely vibe... the energy, the fashion, culture (I wish I had more time to spend at the art gallery), the food is great.
Omg 2.5 hours 😣😣 so bad! So cool that you also lived in Perth!! And yess love the art here so much 😍
Melboring has a rather depressing vibe.
Oh I’m with you on the beaches! I grew up two hours from melbourne where the beaches are MUCH better. But good for a walk. Super used to driving in the city these days but I understand what you mean! - context - I live right in the cbd but have lived in multiple suburbs. The food and coffee and top notch.
Thanks rose! Yes so many food and coffee choices haha 😍
Hi! My uncle lives in melbourne and i plan to move there either before uni or after uni and god i love it the atmosphere and everything. Yes the weather may be cold and rainy but eh cover up youll be right :) Also the regional trains are so good
Haha aw that’s so exciting!! Good luck with the move back to melbs :)
@@SundayswithJamie yeah cant wait to move there!!
Although as a Melbournians who grew up most of his life in QLD I hate the hook turns and contending with trams on the road as well but you can’t complain about the roads here until you go to Sydney, what I call the pothole city and roads that make absolutely no sense
Awesome content! 😊
Thank you! 😁
Thanks for sharing 😍
Thanks so much for watching!
Hi I grew up in Melbourne love it but moved to the country some 20 years ago but still love it
I love love love Melbourne. It is so culturally Vibrant and Cosmopolitan. And walking and taking free tram in CBD and watching the festivals and buskers. The food is so amazing. Is the place I would really love to stay and not get bored with the mountain Ranges, nature, snow mountains just 1 or 2 hours drive to reach. And the crisp cold weather in the city is a Plus for me.
Definitely agree! The free tram zone is so great in the city. Thanks so much for watching and sharing Lynn!
amazing video!
thank you so much!
Very good sharing 🎉 Thanks
Thanks for watching!
The public transport is pretty good compared to other cities. Up until recently I’ve lived without a car. It is really good. Melbournians have just been climatized to quick transport so when it’s delayed it’s a bummer 😂
Jaaamie! 🙌🥰🥂 As an F1 fan, I really envy Melbourne's hosting of the Australian GP. 😭😂 Makes me think of moving to Melbourne - in addition to all the good things you've mentioned! 😄 Props again to the quality vlog! 👌💯🍻
Have a great week ahead!! 😄
Aw haha completely understand!! Thanks so much for watching Justine, appreciate you being here ☺️
Being a tokyo boy Melbourne is just small village town, I was there and love to visit again ❤️
Melbourne is on the bay so that's one thing. Sydney and Perth are on the ocean. It's comparing apples with oranges. The rest is fairly accurate!
I loveee your RUclips name plus the fact that I am interested with your videos❤❤❤ It's my dream to move in Melbourne🥺
Thanks so much Aya, appreciate you watching!!
@@SundayswithJamie No worries however I just want to ask because I am still an undergrad and I am a single mom. I want to migrate together with my son in Melbourne, do you think it is possible for both of us to study in Melbourne? Thank you so much and more power to your channel❤
Lovely video! It was very informative! I’m born and raised in NYC and although I’ve never been to Australia .. Melbourne is my dream city! 🌹❤️
Thank you so much, glad you found this informative! Hope you can visit some day soon 😍
NYC is far superior. All the good points that are raised in the video are done better in NYC. I.e. the culture, food, bars, night-life etc. You may be disappointed when you come. Although do come for the Australian Open. That's a blast!
Tks Jamie... greeting from an Argentinean in CA about to move there soon , best
Thanks for watching! All the best with your move
Woot for public transit! So glad you're living without a car. We are going to start exploring cities around the world that have great quality of life, and our top criteria is car free livability. Thanks for mentioning this in your vid. Would love to see more content about Melbourne's public transit system.
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Great video! Very thoughtful perspectives. I moved to Melbourne from Maryland 3 years ago and I am still amazed by it every day. PTV is elite! Bus/trams/trains can get you pretty much anywhere. They are clean and pretty reliable. Only a hater would say otherwise!!
Thanks Ian! Yas - I’m so grateful for the PT!! Love the positive vibes 😊
you can say that again about melbournes weather, i spent 72 hours in melbourne in the last week of july and it was 9c and pissing down with rain at 2pm on a monday afternoon, it was apparently 6c warmer back home in wellington new zealand that day
Ah classic melbs 🙈
Really enjoyed listen to your opinion on Melbourne. Where do you live? Near de CBD? I would love to see more content like that, expanses included!
I live about 30 mins from the CBD via public transport 😊 thanks so much! Planning to do a video about living costs in melbourne!
I loved your videos. Can you pls make a video on pros and cons of living in Perth.
Thanks so much! I definitely will ☺️
Hi Jamie! I love your videos - they’re so thoughtful and pretty! Would you consider making a video comparing living in Melbourne vs in the US/Boston? Thank you ☺️
I would love the same video as well! I am also thinking of moving to Melbourne from the US
Hi Karen!! Thanks so much 🥺💓 great idea!! It’s been a whiiiile since I lived in the US but will put this on my list ☺️
@@justincho965 so exciting!! Thanks for letting me know ☺️
We all have trust issues with Melbourne weather 🙌 Lovely video! As someone who has lived in Melbourne her whole life, I am have acclimatised to the roads here. Driving in LA and Mostar which is in BiH was definitely an “experience” 😅 Glad you’re loving the city! A couple of other cons are there is so much to do … you often experience FOMO and because of all the brunch options… your bank account will suffer 😂🎉
thanks so much! haha you're so right, there are so many options sometimes it was overwhelming 😂😂
On the beaches - Greater Melbourne offers awesome beaches and I've been snorkelling here for almost 2 years now, i.e., Ricketts Point, Half Moon Bay, the beaches of the Mornington Peninsula, etc. These beaches are only 15 minutes to an hour's drive from the CBD and sure, the waters are cold, especially in the autumn and winter months, but I love the sea life and diversity here. I guess it also depends on people's preferences, i.e., tanning, picnicking, amenities, and the like. But if that's the case, most of the beaches from the CBD to the east and to the west (extending outside Greater Melbourne) have tons of these to offer as well.
Hi Jamie, I am short of words to express how fond I am of your channel. Keep on creating, we need you! All the best!
Thank you so much!
Melbourne is a great city but the weather is unpredictable especially during the Rainy season out there since the 2010s.
Thats why they call it winter LOL
The weather is changing. Melbourne's weather is now a lot steadier. This Summer was absolutely perfect. Beautiful Summary. You are a great representation of this City.
So true, we had such a long lovely summer 🤩 thank you for watching!
That's a good thing.
I would love to see a video on how much it costs to live in Melbourne!
Thanks so much for letting me know, Justin!! Will put this on my list ☺️
Melbourne is a very expensive city (Australia is an expensive country) You need plenty of $$$$ to reside here
Melbourne is CHEAP. There are apartments for 300-400k in the Melbourne CBD whereas a 1 bedroom in Sydney CBD is 800k- 1mil. There are also African refugees coming in to Melbourne because it’s cheap which means property values will be going down.
It is pretty expensive thats why you see alot of homeless people in melbourne
I’m looking forward to move to Melbourne
So exciting!
I agree, they have too many roads! We need more people to take public transport.
PT here is so good!
I live there so yes MOVE TO MELBOURNE
Great vid
Thanks Alex!
Will be Australian's largest city in terms of population in three years!!
thanks for this video, what is the weather like most of the time and how does it vary between the months? I’m looking to move and work here from Manchester, UK (where it’s constantly cold and rainy😂)
Totally agree that the traffic and roads are horrendous in Melbourne. Melbourne needs to discourage private motor vehicles from its CBD and pedestrianise the streets, prioritise pedestrians.
Melbourne weather sounds exactly like Auckland weather 🌧🌞
ooh interesting to know! have always wanted to visit NZ
me too i love the diversity
Hey! Jamie your vlogs are so so beautiful I can’t explain how happy I am and I really enjoyed watching your vlogs so so much you’re too cute and I wish you reach 4K Subscribers very very soon!😍✨🙈💫💖💓💕😘
Thank you!!! Appreciate you watching every Sunday ☺️
Thank you for sharing this info. I’m from Durban South Africa. Our humidity is just as bad id assume. I’m hoping to move to Melbourne next year having been granted a skilled visa. Please can you share information on rental costs and how to get rentals. Or share a link if you’ve done something similar. I’m just anxious as I hear there’s a housing shortage in Australia. Thanks
Im 26 and lived in melbourne my whole life and what you said about the weather really made me laugh its so true. I want to move because I cant stand it hahaha!
Haha glad you could relate!! Would you live somewhere else in Aus?!
@@SundayswithJamie Im thinking the sunshine coast because i love the beach!
Hi Jamie, I would love to see a video with a direct comparison between Perth and Melbourne! I am stuck deciding which city to move to in the new year for school, they both seem to have their pros and cons but I would love to hear which you prefer!
That’s a great idea! Thanks so much for watching and commenting Tessa 😊
I have lived in both states if you like seasons then Melbourne is for you but if you love the heat then Perth is the place I no which one I would go for
Hi Tessa,Lived in Perth for 20 years, 2 years and a bit in Melbourne, just really depends on what you want out of living in the city and how that might impact school...but my overall take, Melbourne has lots of more this and that and the shitty weather and beaches. In Perth you just have to find the gems.. I don't know if this helps
@@patriciachippendale2022
Heat?
I definitely agree with Patricia & Adrian on their points (I’ve lived in Melb my whole life). If you’re into a more fast paced city, a BIG night life, more diversity in people, food, cultures, entertainment + you’re okay with unstable weather (carry a small umbrella lol) and you’re good at managing your time (because you often have to factor 1-2 hours of commuting into your plans 🥲 painful sometimes) then you’ll vibe with Melb really well. The beaches in Melb are definitely pathetic😅 but you can have day trips or even a night away/weekend away when you explore beaches outside of Melbourne (there are some stunning areas around Victoria). Road trips are soooo fun on a summer day!
I’ve visited Perth a handful of times & have family that live there to provide insight. It’s muccch more laidback & traffic (driving) isn’t as long or intense from experience. During my visits, I realised 40 minutes drives were considered ‘long’ by my family in Perth because everywhere is fairly close/ quick to drive to. The weather seems pretty damn perfect and predictable, the near by beaches were nice. Only downside for me was shops closing so early (I think 5pm? Someone pls correct me) and the lack of night life (because I’m too use to the Melb night life). Otherwise, it was very calming and relaxing ☺️
Yeees plz make videos about Melbourne/ how much it costs etc
Will do!! Thanks for letting me know ☺️
@@SundayswithJamie (✿^‿^)
Moving from Africa to Melbourne soon
How exciting, all the best with your move!
Thanks 👍
Hey jamie! new to the city, can you maybe suggest, or perhaps make a video on some of your go to cafe's/retaurants in and around the city? extra brownie pointss if they're vegetarian :D
Hi Amrit! I recently made a video on cafes/restaurants I love and a lot of them are in the CBD or the inner city suburbs. A lot of the places I recommend also have great vegan and vego options 😊 ruclips.net/video/eXx8CUJyz3Y/видео.html
i am praying that i get to study or live in melbourne 🙏🙏🙏
All the best! 🥰🤞🏼
I arrived here on 16 November 2022
And now it s been more than two months
It s a beautifull multi cultural city
The Beach thing is so true haha
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I'm scared of Australian summers cuz I live in Canada where it is pretty cold most of the year!
I still struggle with the summer haha i definitely understand!
I just moved in, and tbh I love it..but its really stressful 🙃
so exciting you've moved in!
As a Melbourne person, the public transport has improved a lot in the last 10 years. I can see you are not a sporty person, but that's OK. There are different things here for everyone.
Thanks for watching and commenting, Roger!
It's probably best next time, if you add the Melbourne Cricket Ground and the Tennis Centre and Melbourne's mad passion for sport, even if it's not your thing. Anyway, happy Easter.
@@rogergraham2526 yeah that’s a great point! Thanks Roger, happy Easter to you too!
Yes Melbourne's weather may be ordinary but you can always go to NSW or QLD and have a wet suit as your daily outfit. Those guys really need a break.
Love this, can you make video about career, job's, and and cost of living in melbourne please? Love from indonesia❤
ahh thank you for watching and commenting! i was born in Indonesia 😊 i made a video answering a lot of questions about melbourne here that might be helpful: ruclips.net/video/s-TA-qjvtG4/видео.htmlsi=I_lLi011ZbwH4CmT
i also made videos showing what i spent in a week living in melbourne - i hope this helps a little ruclips.net/p/PLLVAe9z1PhPhkyb9BTUQN8XWCoME4CQpa&si=BrEC4eYXtBooNSWi
Could you do a pro and cons of Perth if you’ve lived there before?
This is a great idea! Thanks Alicia! ☺️
I Like the quality of your video specially in the start , can I ask you what camera are u using? Please
Thank you! Canon g7x and my iPhone 11
@@SundayswithJamie thanks is it gx7 mark iii or gx7 mark ii
@@BarackQLD mark ii but I’d choose a diff camera in the future where I can connect an external mic
@@SundayswithJamie that mark iii is better because you can contact mic on it
I love melbourne’s public transpo as well!
First let me thank you for this great videos ❤
I'm willing to move to Melbourne in about 6 month
Any advice for me would be great
thanks so much, I appreciate you watching! good luck with the move!!
in another video, i talk a little bit more about where to stay and finding accommodation that you might find helpful! ruclips.net/video/s-TA-qjvtG4/видео.html
@@SundayswithJamie Thank you and i wish you all the best.
@@raadkasem not a prob, thanks so much for supporting the channel :)
Why are the beaches near Melbourne average Jamie? Are they small and busy?
i would say it's more the sand and water quality - i found a couple of beaches quite dirty as well (lots of trash!)
We plan to visit Mellbourne in several months
So exciting, I hope you have a great time here! ☺️
I have lived in Melbourne for my whole life, and half of these things (like the frequent weather changes) I just thought that was normal.
Also, fun fact I thought the food was normal. Only a few hours ago I was having Gyoza and the night before it was Australian food!
haha amazing! Thanks so much for watching :)
Coming from far north queensland that weather here is whacky. We'd get weeks, sometimes months of just pure sunshine without a cloud in the sky compared to living down here where it's sunny for 10 minutes then raining for 10 minutes.
Your beauty is like a Filipino/Filipina, and you're beautiful. If I have the chance of going abroad. I would totally go to Australia. And I'll also consider going to Melbourne😁
thank you so much! I am Filipina :) definitely have to visit Melbourne!
FUN FACT Sydney actually has DOUBLE the rain of Melbourne, one thing that needs to be mentioned a bit more often
Oooh great fun fact
@ion7 neither does Melbourne, no where has all 4 seasons in one day, what a ridiculous comment
When it rains, it rains in Sydney and more like the subtropical summer rain. It doesn't drizzle throughout the year with depressing grey skies.
A nice video
Thanks Greg!
I used to hate the weather too, now i miss it. Living in hot summer weather all year round gets really boring, who knew you live inside more in hot weather. You can't compare the bay beaches with actual beaches. The weather helps the city to be vibrant, when you live in seasons it encourages changes, fashion changes, menu's change. I also miss the Wine regions, only 45 mins away, cultrally progessive country towns like Daylesford and threntham. No where else in Australia has the diversity vibrancy and also work opportunities.
I agree 👍 1 million percent.
Well, Sydney has more work opportunities and diversity and vibrancy. More beauty and much better weather and beaches and everything else.