In case anyone is curious how I came by the over 35 billion possible Hero Me setup combinations, follow along with your calculator app... 1 Base X 100 printer models X 46 Hotends X 34 Extruders X 35 fan duct options X 17 ABL sensors X 11 ADXL345 sensors X 10 wire management towers X 4 LED mounts = wait for it.. (Note that these numbers have gone up since the calculation that gave me the 35 billion number. 1 x 100 x 46 x 34 x 35 x 17 x 11 x 10 x 4 EQUALS 40,945,520,000. Just shy of 41 Billion
Looks really cool, would love to see if you ever find a possible solution for a GooFoo Mido as I could use a much better cooling than original and the option to put on a Revo setup for easier change of nozzle :)
@@focalratio456 While I have answered Amaurisstudio’s comments in another post from him, in summary, I apologized for not being clear enough about properly crediting him for his work in the impromptu and unrehearsed interview with Joel. And for incorrectly remembering the country he is from (Dominican Republic). In all my documentation I give him full credit for the creation of the original Hero ME design that he developed over 4 months (nearly 5 years ago) and is comprised of 12 STLs that support four 3D printers (CR-10, CR-10S, Ender 3, Ender 3 Pro), 1 hot-end, 3 fan ducts, and 3 ABL sensors, and was for Bowden setups only. What I do take credit for are all my extensions and significant new design work (over 610 STLs with continuous development over the past 5 years) that bring my Hero Me Gen7 Release 4 to fully support over 115 3D printer models, both Bowden and Direct Drive versions, 47 hot-ends, 37 extruders, 35 part cooling setups, 20 ABLs, 14 accelerometers, 8 LED mounts, 4 endoscope mounts, and much more. The closest descriptive comparison would be that I was inspired by what he designed. With only two exceptions, there is nothing in common between the original Hero ME and my Hero Me Gen7.4. Those two exceptions are #1. Part of the name (kept out of respect for the source from which mine was inspired) and #2. The position of the grooves for mounting part cooling ducts to the Base. Over 600 STLs are brand new. What few parts of his original work (8 STLs) that have the same specific function, mine have been recreated from scratch beyond comparison. Only the core Base STL has any remote resemblance, but when you look at them for more than a few seconds you will see that they are totally different. Anyone can compare for themselves, simply search for Hero Me on Thingiverse and see the differences between the two projects. Going forward, I will be sure to correctly credit his original work (as I have always done in my documentation) and make the distinction between his design and what I have created completely clear in all future interviews, presentations, documentation, etc.
Joel, it was great to meet you in person at RMRRF! Thanks for the interview and posting this video. I will be at MRRF in June, hope to see you and everyone else attending. Happy Printing, Andy
In my opinion this is one of the best things I've done to one of my 3D printers as a modification. My prints went from ho-hum to top-tier quality. I can't thank Andy enough for his and the team's work on the Hero Me hotend ecosystem. I'm now going to finally get around to upgrading my other printer to the Hero Me system but with mostly existing parts I have on hand. I'm so shocked at how great of quality I'm getting out of my existing Hero Me to print the new parts. I still can't believe how dialed in I have this printer. One of those moments I went from how do they all get such great looking printed parts to looking at mine and going whoa did it really just print that? So kudos again to Andy and the Hero me team of designers. But it took the entire 3D printer community around the world to get me to the level. Maybe one of these days I'll start posting my videos I record, edit and then never post. LOL!
Excellent topic.. My very first print was a 'well there's your problem' moment. My second print was a fang fan mount. My third print was perfect. 3d printing is about heart management.
I saw me :D and now I'm curious why the Gloop Andrews were measuring Stefan... also, good camera David when Andy mentioned Stefan and you pivoted to get him in frame. Back to the video: love the modularity of this whole thing. It's something I wish more printers actually did. Have a Voron and want to use a Creality hotend (hey, I don't know your reason...) well... too bad. Have a Prusa and want a single lead screw? (again, your reasons are yours) well too bad. Etc. etc. You can't just go with the parts you want and produce a printer unless you design your own printer. But for the most part, all the printers out there (Prusa, Bambu, Creality, Snapmaker, Stratysis, etc.) are all very similar. It's just those interface layers between the parts that can change. Have a mounting plate for a CoreXY, one for a i3, one for an H-bot, one for a hang printer, whatever... and now you can just pick the other things you want and mount it. There are generators for Marlin to make configs, RepRap firmware and Klipper both take on-the-fly configs. ABL can be done half a dozen or more ways, but they basically home to say "I found the bed" and then go from there... no real need for needing to make everything align every time you want to print. So love this.
today I ordered my first resin printer :) Anycubic Photon Mono M5s I hope I won't regret it. For now, I'm using ultimaker original with an added heated bed and I'm not going to replace it, it will still print larger items cut so that the details are printed by anucubic.
Welcome to your new addiction. My wife got me a Mars 2 Pro with the wash & cure station for my birthday last year & I was instantly hooked on resin printing. Being able to print my original Zbrush sculpts while retaining all the fine details I worked on just NEVER gets old.
I have a video idea. I have seen when using clear resin to print things that it has a yellow tint to it. I have also seen restoration channels remove yellowing from plastic parts by putting them in hydrogen peroxide and UV lights so what would happen if you cured the clear resin prints in hydrogen peroxide?
Why do we want laminar flow for part cooling? Turbulent flow has significantly higher heat transfer coefficients, so it's much better at removing the heat. Wouldn't more effective cooling be better?
I've recently got Gen7 v2.1 and experience was a mixed bag, closer to bad. Let me explain: some parts printed just fine with no supports and no issues, but some was a fail, since I had to do supports with PETG in places that could've been modified to be printed without supports, like 5015 part cooling ducts. Also, the mounting plate where fan supposed to be fastened to, is waay too thin for printing it vertically and easily snaps along the layer lines. I mean, thank you for the system, but it could've been optimized for printing without supports way more. It's just my opinion and first experience, and it's not my intention to shit on the design. Just wanted to voice my frustration with it and bunch of spent time.
No sorry, the Sprite S1 along with the Hemera, NG, etc. are just too big for the Hero Me. Plans are brewing to bring Hero Me cooling to those later this year.
Great to see innovation being pushed. And in sad news. Gcreate shut down May 1st just noticed on there website when I was trying to purchase the upgrade kit.
@@3DPrintingNerd my bad, I misunderstood you in the video. But yeah, even Prusas don't have optimal part cooling, in my experience. We've reached the point where we can print so fast, part cooling needs a lot more thought.
The most greedy mod maker. IMHO. Sells docs, make new little change in system, sell new docs. Repeat several times during year. ) And some configurations doesn't connect correctly even with docs.
Ender 2, Phaetus Rapido Plus, Creality single gear stock extruder as a direct drive, dual 5020 fans, Beacon3D ABL, ADXL345 (ADXL would mount on a spacer riser between the hothead and the extruder, Endoscope mount stacked on Beacon3D sensor mount, plus 100mm curved LED bar between the two 5020 fans two wire towers, and some big ass skull shaped heat sink fan shroud.
A typo I believe (thirteen and thirty-five start off sounding the same, I'm dyslexic and flip numbers) I've done the math. It is a ridiculously large number, and now more than 35 Billion. What's important is that I've most likely got your setup covered, If I am missing anything, it would be a 3D printer model that is not among the over 100 currently supported. I am adding new (to me) 3D printer models almost weekly.
You know the sad part? Is not Costa Rica, is Dominican Republic, its not his idea to be modular, is MY idea, ME means Modular Edition... It's NOT a team effort, I did it by myself!!!! The point of it was to make a light modular fanduct, using the screws that comes with the ender 3 to keep the weight low... The design of the ducts are optimized to keep the airflow even in both sides, because you don't need the extra weight!!! Dude... You don't know shit about 3D printing or design! You can keep saying is your design, but remember, thingiverse have DATES OF UPLOAD!!
Marcelino, I am sorry I named the wrong country. I am dyslexic and I often flip names (in this case countries), and as the interview was unrehearsed, and on the spot, I got it wrong. I have always given you credit as the original designer. It is correct in the first paragraph of the introduction in my assembly docs for my version of the Hero Me. Quote: "Welcome and thank you for selecting the Hero Me Gen7 cooling system for your 3D printer. The Hero Me was originally designed by Marcelino A. Mosquea S. (Kelokera) from the Dominican Republic and posted to Thingiverse in September of 2018." I also always give you credit and a link to your Thing in the description of my model posts. I had long forgotten the meaning of 'ME'. Yes, you started with the design for Ender/CR printers with modularity for a couple fan ducts and ABL sensors. Then I picked up where you left off, and over the past 5 years, I have transformed it. I do know 'shit' about 3D design and 3D printers. My things support over 115 3D printer models, 47 hotends, 37 extruders, 20 ABLs, 14 accelerometers, and much more. Everything fits and components of a type are completely interchangeable. The only similarity left between the two is the spacing of the alignment slots where the part cooling ducts mount on the base, and a tilted face (although at a very different angle), everything else is completely new and different. The name remains the same out of respect for its origins. If I said 'team' in the interview, what I meant by that was that I beta-tested your designs prior to the 'ME' and gave you a lot of feedback where you incorporated a number of feedback points into the Hero Me design. There was no time in the interview to go into that level of detail. I am sorry you feel slighted, and I apologize for not being clearer in the interview. I will be sure to properly attribute you should I get the chance to be interviewed by anyone else in the future.
I have to say, I went and looked at the original Hero Me part cooling and downloaded and printed it and it is complete junk. (from Thingiverse) The newest one you can get for free on pretty much all the sites is 4 billion times better and cools much better from Andy. I printed and tried both and I must say two fans works much better due to the direction of the air. If you think about it, if you only cool one way you will cool 50% of the part in some cases or not at all in others. I had tons of faliures with the single fan version. None with the new version. The changes made by this guy Andy are leaps and bounds above the original. I feel like he kind of ran with it and the original guy is mad at himself he didn't think to capitalize on the money that could be made by selling the directions or whatever. Just bow your head to the better designer and move on. Don't be childish and yell at him on here bro. One last thing, if you are going to write on a public forum I suggest you spell and grammar check it (makes you look ignorant). Plus why wait till 2023 if you started this in 2017?? Cmon man
@@AllinOneBBQ thank you for your comment, but, if you know who's David Petsel, you know that he IS a engineer, he also created several fanducts, and he probably have the best solutions for 3D printers, also modulars, way before I started on 3D printing. If you follow this channel you also know there was a review and comparison between the original Hero Me and the Bullseye from Petsel and both are on par. If you think blowing more air is all you need in 3D print you have A LOT to learn, 3D print is about balance... Weight is crucial when you need speed, as a designer I never even try to put 2 fans because of that, all the thought was put into delivering the same amount of air on both sides as front and back of the nozzle... But don't worry, you don't offended me! When you get noticed from people like engineers from TSMC, you know you're doing good! And remember, without ME! and MY IDEA, there was no "GEN 7"... and my entire discussion is the way he's altering the history and presenting himself as part of the development and even the creator, etc...
So... THIS is the story of the HERO ME. inventions come out of necessities... When I get into 3D printing I already had a background in design and 3D animation. I bought the Ender 3 cuz it was the new thing... But living in the Dominican Republic was a problem cuz everything was double the price because of delivery and import taxes... So... If I wanted to improve the printer I had to do it by myself. As a designer, I didn't like the look and complexity of what was the best fanduct at the time, David Petsel's Petsfang, and understanding how 3D printing works, and I meant the balance between weight, speed, airflow, etc... I started my little project. The Hero journey started with a single-piece heat sink-cooling pipes piece, that looked kind of cool, but wasn't that effective. But over time I was uploading improvements, some of which were major improvements that received versions numbers (V2, V3). I was part of the Facebook group, as Mediaman was in that time, and with every version he modifies mine to add an extra fan, but there's a problem with that. If you know something about 3D printing, you know that adding weight to the x carriage is bad, because adding weight makes changing directions more difficult, but... You may want more airflow because you want to go faster! But what about the weight that we just talk? And... How fast do you really want to go on a swinging bed V-roller 3D printer?! Is the extra airflow necessary? And let's talk about layer adhesion... Do you really want to hold down the plastic that fast if you're not going that fast? What is the right balance?! But! Mediaman wasn't a designer! What should he know? And some people love the idea of 2 fans! So who am I to say no?... So... V4 was planned as the definitive version. Inspired by the Petsfang I wanted something modular, a base that can receive different ABL sensors and pipes for different fans, I took the already proven heatsink base and modify it to make cable management easier, and also make it easier to print by making it flat in the bottom... The ducts were redesigned to allow the same airflow on both sides by moving the air to the middle of the pipes and from there separating it to both sides. The air exit was also redesigned to put more air in front and back of the nozzle, not just below. I call it Hero Me for Modular Edition... I made it open source and even make public the Fusion 360 files so the community could make their own add-ons. But the fanduct was on pair with David Petsel's newer fanduct the Bullseye, and my design was simpler and smaller, using the screws already in the ender 3 tool head, so no need for extra parts or add more weight. Around a month later and thanks to Thinkercad Mediaman released his 2 fan version, totally unnecessary and overkill... But! Who am I to judge? I leave the scene to be a father, I upload the files on September 9, 2018, and my daughter was born on September 16... So my priorities changes and my job was already done. Then, a few years later I saw a video with Mediaman talking about how he collaborated with me in the process... Then another one he explains how he came up with the idea... And now this one... I never stop creating stuff! I NEVER stop designing! I stop sharing! Cuz people like him! I've been in the states for 4 years now! And he knows it! He could ask me to work together on this! But he send me a message to let me know that he was launching a new package full of stuff that you really don't need! You want to learn what you really need to achieve high speed printing? Check the VZBot development! A carriage so simple and light that makes everything else obsolete! You DONT need 10 pounds of stuff in your X carriage You don't need 2 5015 blowers to run then slower and lower the noise! You don't need to put 1 5015 at 100% to get long overhangs!!! And he didn't came with the idea of the Hero me... I DID IT!!!
I have no argument or disagreement with your origin story of the HERO ME. I am very sorry for not being clear enough in properly crediting you for your work in the impromptu and unrehearsed interview with Joel. And for incorrectly remembering the country you are from. In all my documentation I do give you full credit for the creation of the HERO ME design (and the correct country reference) that you developed nearly 5 years ago. Your design's 12 STLs support four common platformed 3D printers (CR-10, CR-10S, Ender 3, Ender 3 Pro, and clones), 1 hot-end, 3 fan ducts, 3 ABL sensors, and the design was only for Bowden setups. What I do take credit for are all is the significant new design work (over 610 STLs with continuous development over the past 5 years) to enable my Gen7 Release 4 to fully support over 115 3D printer models, both Bowden and Direct Drive versions, 47 hot-ends, 37 extruders, 35 part cooling setups, 20 ABLs, 14 accelerometers, 8 LED mounts, 4 endoscope mounts, and much more. The closest descriptive comparison between what you created and what I have done would be that I was inspired by what you designed. There are only two things left that are in common between your work and mine. First, part of the name, which I kept out of respect, and crediting your work from which mine was inspired. Had I changed the name, people could have said that I has appropriated your work and called it my own. I did not, and have not. #2. The position of the grooves for mounting part cooling ducts to the Base. . What few parts from your work (8 STLs) where mine have the same specific function, mine have been recreated from scratch and are beyond any possible direct comparison. Only the core Base STL has any remote resemblance, but when viewed side by side anyone would see that they are totally different. As I have said in my other reply, going forward I will be sure to correctly credit your work (as I have always done in my documentation) and make the distinction between your original design's inspiration. and what I have created, completely clear in all future interviews, presentations, documentation, etc.
Imagine uploading something open source and then complaining that someone said something without bad intentions wrong. In fact, he had good intentions that he acknowledged you. In my opinion you can be happy in the first place that he credits you that way he does. He could just have came up with a new name said "it was an open source project from another guy" and just put credits in the description with very small letters and call it a day. How can you be angry over such nonsense? For outsider it looks like you are jealous and bitter about the accomplishment from Mediaman. And then the argument with getting noticed by TSMC. Honestly, that gives me weird vibes like children saying "my Dad works at Nintendo blabla..". Dude, you made your stuff public and then complain that other people use and improve it. You are embarrassing yourself. Also the thing that you are mad about with you didn't stop designing, you just stopped uploading. How does that matter? It is completely irrelevant because literally who cares? The outcome is kinda the same if you stop designing or stop uploading your creations. Next thing is that he has no obligations when it comes to you to begin with.
The very sad part is, that you also gave your blessing for him to take over. In other words, you gave him the rights for it by giving up yours. That's how it works when someone is taking something over. You literally gave up your rights. From that perspective he doesn't have to Credit you. Or do you see on Fallout 4 that the original creators of classic Fallout 1 are credited in any ways by Bethesda? Honestly, it's so wrong from so many perspectives. Its just throwing a temper tantrum online over nothing.
@@denis2381 the difference is, Bethesda bought the rights of the games, they didn't took fallout and started modifying on top and took it as their... They credited themselves as the creators of 3 and 4... I didn't give up, I finished a product that was in development for some time, I made hundreds of tests to find the right balance of weight and airflow... I didn't give the rights to 1 person, I uploaded the fusion files to thingiverse to the community! To everyone!!! Even you!!! I wasn't mad cuz he's making money or modded the thing... I was mad because he changed the story and took full credit... "He was working with me" then "was his idea" etc...
@@MediaMan3D are you going to give him his cut of the money though? you used a design that had a clear noncommercial tag on it, it's not yours, that's like trying to develop a design based on Pokémon, just because they made it a long time ago and haven't changed the Pikachu design, saying oh well I made it better doesn't mean you didn't steal the idea and the design to begin with!!
In case anyone is curious how I came by the over 35 billion possible Hero Me setup combinations, follow along with your calculator app... 1 Base X 100 printer models X 46 Hotends X 34 Extruders X 35 fan duct options X 17 ABL sensors X 11 ADXL345 sensors X 10 wire management towers X 4 LED mounts = wait for it.. (Note that these numbers have gone up since the calculation that gave me the 35 billion number. 1 x 100 x 46 x 34 x 35 x 17 x 11 x 10 x 4 EQUALS 40,945,520,000. Just shy of 41 Billion
Pure inspiration! Age is not a limit to the size of the dream worth chasing, but a reason to continue the chase!
Looks really cool, would love to see if you ever find a possible solution for a GooFoo Mido as I could use a much better cooling than original and the option to put on a Revo setup for easier change of nozzle :)
@@focalratio456sad his taking my work and saying is his...
you're a thief
@@focalratio456 While I have answered Amaurisstudio’s comments in another post from him, in summary, I apologized for not being clear enough about properly crediting him for his work in the impromptu and unrehearsed interview with Joel. And for incorrectly remembering the country he is from (Dominican Republic). In all my documentation I give him full credit for the creation of the original Hero ME design that he developed over 4 months (nearly 5 years ago) and is comprised of 12 STLs that support four 3D printers (CR-10, CR-10S, Ender 3, Ender 3 Pro), 1 hot-end, 3 fan ducts, and 3 ABL sensors, and was for Bowden setups only. What I do take credit for are all my extensions and significant new design work (over 610 STLs with continuous development over the past 5 years) that bring my Hero Me Gen7 Release 4 to fully support over 115 3D printer models, both Bowden and Direct Drive versions, 47 hot-ends, 37 extruders, 35 part cooling setups, 20 ABLs, 14 accelerometers, 8 LED mounts, 4 endoscope mounts, and much more. The closest descriptive comparison would be that I was inspired by what he designed. With only two exceptions, there is nothing in common between the original Hero ME and my Hero Me Gen7.4. Those two exceptions are #1. Part of the name (kept out of respect for the source from which mine was inspired) and #2. The position of the grooves for mounting part cooling ducts to the Base. Over 600 STLs are brand new. What few parts of his original work (8 STLs) that have the same specific function, mine have been recreated from scratch beyond comparison. Only the core Base STL has any remote resemblance, but when you look at them for more than a few seconds you will see that they are totally different. Anyone can compare for themselves, simply search for Hero Me on Thingiverse and see the differences between the two projects. Going forward, I will be sure to correctly credit his original work (as I have always done in my documentation) and make the distinction between his design and what I have created completely clear in all future interviews, presentations, documentation, etc.
Joel, it was great to meet you in person at RMRRF! Thanks for the interview and posting this video. I will be at MRRF in June, hope to see you and everyone else attending. Happy Printing, Andy
Incredibly awesome system you've come up with! I'm definitely going to work this into my setups now.
@@hazonku Thanks! I think you'll love it.
You have created a great system despite myself not needing it-well done!
For myself I would need a quicker swap with two toddlers..
@@andreasstromberg Hero Me mounted to a Wham Bam MUTANT, or PrinterMods xChange, or BigTreeTech Hermit Crab.
1:54 meanwhile CNC Kitchen has a health checkup in the middle of RMRRF
CNCKitchen in the background. Gotta love it. Good video. Might have to try this for my Kobra assuming it's compatible.
"who are not yet patrons" SMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTH, damn.
In my opinion this is one of the best things I've done to one of my 3D printers as a modification. My prints went from ho-hum to top-tier quality. I can't thank Andy enough for his and the team's work on the Hero Me hotend ecosystem. I'm now going to finally get around to upgrading my other printer to the Hero Me system but with mostly existing parts I have on hand. I'm so shocked at how great of quality I'm getting out of my existing Hero Me to print the new parts. I still can't believe how dialed in I have this printer. One of those moments I went from how do they all get such great looking printed parts to looking at mine and going whoa did it really just print that? So kudos again to Andy and the Hero me team of designers. But it took the entire 3D printer community around the world to get me to the level. Maybe one of these days I'll start posting my videos I record, edit and then never post. LOL!
"Because Stefan..." Literally talking about him behind his back! XD
Excellent topic.. My very first print was a 'well there's your problem' moment. My second print was a fang fan mount. My third print was perfect. 3d printing is about heart management.
I downloaded this last night and subscribed. Thank you thank you for this creation and hard work.
I love the Hero Me Project. I was running the old version on my Ender 5 and switched to the new version a few weeks ago
3DP Community at its best 👍
Really cool setup. This is what I will use when I swap my Prusa "used to be all metal" E3D hot end to the new Revo.
I saw me :D and now I'm curious why the Gloop Andrews were measuring Stefan... also, good camera David when Andy mentioned Stefan and you pivoted to get him in frame.
Back to the video: love the modularity of this whole thing. It's something I wish more printers actually did. Have a Voron and want to use a Creality hotend (hey, I don't know your reason...) well... too bad. Have a Prusa and want a single lead screw? (again, your reasons are yours) well too bad. Etc. etc. You can't just go with the parts you want and produce a printer unless you design your own printer. But for the most part, all the printers out there (Prusa, Bambu, Creality, Snapmaker, Stratysis, etc.) are all very similar. It's just those interface layers between the parts that can change. Have a mounting plate for a CoreXY, one for a i3, one for an H-bot, one for a hang printer, whatever... and now you can just pick the other things you want and mount it. There are generators for Marlin to make configs, RepRap firmware and Klipper both take on-the-fly configs. ABL can be done half a dozen or more ways, but they basically home to say "I found the bed" and then go from there... no real need for needing to make everything align every time you want to print.
So love this.
Loved the hero me. First mod on my ender years back.
See if you can spot the cameos in the background
Parallel 3D print clothes & shoes, EV solid state batteries, etc
Awesome, thanks for this! Much needed for my V1E printer build.
Awesome. Been wanting to do something like this for the cooling on my ender 3 pro. You just solidified the choice
YES!
today I ordered my first resin printer :) Anycubic Photon Mono M5s I hope I won't regret it. For now, I'm using ultimaker original with an added heated bed and I'm not going to replace it, it will still print larger items cut so that the details are printed by anucubic.
Welcome to your new addiction. My wife got me a Mars 2 Pro with the wash & cure station for my birthday last year & I was instantly hooked on resin printing. Being able to print my original Zbrush sculpts while retaining all the fine details I worked on just NEVER gets old.
I have a video idea. I have seen when using clear resin to print things that it has a yellow tint to it. I have also seen restoration channels remove yellowing from plastic parts by putting them in hydrogen peroxide and UV lights so what would happen if you cured the clear resin prints in hydrogen peroxide?
Don't look now, but there's a Stefan over your shoulder.
Strength is so many possibilities. Weakness is so many possibilities. Just to exciting and just so overwhelming.
Why do we want laminar flow for part cooling? Turbulent flow has significantly higher heat transfer coefficients, so it's much better at removing the heat. Wouldn't more effective cooling be better?
I've recently got Gen7 v2.1 and experience was a mixed bag, closer to bad. Let me explain: some parts printed just fine with no supports and no issues, but some was a fail, since I had to do supports with PETG in places that could've been modified to be printed without supports, like 5015 part cooling ducts. Also, the mounting plate where fan supposed to be fastened to, is waay too thin for printing it vertically and easily snaps along the layer lines. I mean, thank you for the system, but it could've been optimized for printing without supports way more.
It's just my opinion and first experience, and it's not my intention to shit on the design. Just wanted to voice my frustration with it and bunch of spent time.
I print everything nicely with ABS
Does this have a Creality Sprite Extruder on a Ender 3 v2 variation?
No sorry, the Sprite S1 along with the Hemera, NG, etc. are just too big for the Hero Me. Plans are brewing to bring Hero Me cooling to those later this year.
@@MediaMan3D Thanks for the feedback, very excited for this. X-)
Great to see innovation being pushed. And in sad news. Gcreate shut down May 1st just noticed on there website when I was trying to purchase the upgrade kit.
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Does Joel really think the typical i3 clone manufacturer puts any thought into part cooling? Because they really don't.
That’s right most don’t.
@@3DPrintingNerd my bad, I misunderstood you in the video. But yeah, even Prusas don't have optimal part cooling, in my experience. We've reached the point where we can print so fast, part cooling needs a lot more thought.
13 or 35 billion?
It's over 35 billion. see more recent comment where I show the math.
The most greedy mod maker. IMHO.
Sells docs, make new little change in system, sell new docs. Repeat several times during year. )
And some configurations doesn't connect correctly even with docs.
I'd love to see the least practical combination that anyone who knew what they were doing would only install as a joke.
Ender 2, Phaetus Rapido Plus, Creality single gear stock extruder as a direct drive, dual 5020 fans, Beacon3D ABL, ADXL345 (ADXL would mount on a spacer riser between the hothead and the extruder, Endoscope mount stacked on Beacon3D sensor mount, plus 100mm curved LED bar between the two 5020 fans two wire towers, and some big ass skull shaped heat sink fan shroud.
OH, and all this mounted on a Wham Bam MUTANT so we can quickly swap it out for the next sick setup!
Why did I see Thomas the tank engine in the thumbnail on first sight?
Lemon is that you? Finally out of Bullet Train? Ha ha.
Ha! It is a Hero Me sticker on the front of the extruder.
9:46
22 Billion short
A typo I believe (thirteen and thirty-five start off sounding the same, I'm dyslexic and flip numbers) I've done the math. It is a ridiculously large number, and now more than 35 Billion. What's important is that I've most likely got your setup covered, If I am missing anything, it would be a 3D printer model that is not among the over 100 currently supported. I am adding new (to me) 3D printer models almost weekly.
personally i prefer the EVA system, as it is more compact and just as modular :)
You know the sad part? Is not Costa Rica, is Dominican Republic, its not his idea to be modular, is MY idea, ME means Modular Edition... It's NOT a team effort, I did it by myself!!!! The point of it was to make a light modular fanduct, using the screws that comes with the ender 3 to keep the weight low... The design of the ducts are optimized to keep the airflow even in both sides, because you don't need the extra weight!!! Dude... You don't know shit about 3D printing or design! You can keep saying is your design, but remember, thingiverse have DATES OF UPLOAD!!
Marcelino, I am sorry I named the wrong country. I am dyslexic and I often flip names (in this case countries), and as the interview was unrehearsed, and on the spot, I got it wrong. I have always given you credit as the original designer. It is correct in the first paragraph of the introduction in my assembly docs for my version of the Hero Me. Quote: "Welcome and thank you for selecting the Hero Me Gen7 cooling system for your 3D printer. The Hero Me was originally designed by Marcelino A. Mosquea S. (Kelokera) from the Dominican Republic and posted to Thingiverse in September of 2018." I also always give you credit and a link to your Thing in the description of my model posts. I had long forgotten the meaning of 'ME'. Yes, you started with the design for Ender/CR printers with modularity for a couple fan ducts and ABL sensors. Then I picked up where you left off, and over the past 5 years, I have transformed it. I do know 'shit' about 3D design and 3D printers. My things support over 115 3D printer models, 47 hotends, 37 extruders, 20 ABLs, 14 accelerometers, and much more. Everything fits and components of a type are completely interchangeable. The only similarity left between the two is the spacing of the alignment slots where the part cooling ducts mount on the base, and a tilted face (although at a very different angle), everything else is completely new and different. The name remains the same out of respect for its origins. If I said 'team' in the interview, what I meant by that was that I beta-tested your designs prior to the 'ME' and gave you a lot of feedback where you incorporated a number of feedback points into the Hero Me design. There was no time in the interview to go into that level of detail. I am sorry you feel slighted, and I apologize for not being clearer in the interview. I will be sure to properly attribute you should I get the chance to be interviewed by anyone else in the future.
I have to say, I went and looked at the original Hero Me part cooling and downloaded and printed it and it is complete junk. (from Thingiverse) The newest one you can get for free on pretty much all the sites is 4 billion times better and cools much better from Andy. I printed and tried both and I must say two fans works much better due to the direction of the air. If you think about it, if you only cool one way you will cool 50% of the part in some cases or not at all in others. I had tons of faliures with the single fan version. None with the new version. The changes made by this guy Andy are leaps and bounds above the original. I feel like he kind of ran with it and the original guy is mad at himself he didn't think to capitalize on the money that could be made by selling the directions or whatever. Just bow your head to the better designer and move on. Don't be childish and yell at him on here bro. One last thing, if you are going to write on a public forum I suggest you spell and grammar check it (makes you look ignorant). Plus why wait till 2023 if you started this in 2017?? Cmon man
@@AllinOneBBQ thank you for your comment, but, if you know who's David Petsel, you know that he IS a engineer, he also created several fanducts, and he probably have the best solutions for 3D printers, also modulars, way before I started on 3D printing. If you follow this channel you also know there was a review and comparison between the original Hero Me and the Bullseye from Petsel and both are on par.
If you think blowing more air is all you need in 3D print you have A LOT to learn, 3D print is about balance... Weight is crucial when you need speed, as a designer I never even try to put 2 fans because of that, all the thought was put into delivering the same amount of air on both sides as front and back of the nozzle... But don't worry, you don't offended me! When you get noticed from people like engineers from TSMC, you know you're doing good!
And remember, without ME! and MY IDEA, there was no "GEN 7"... and my entire discussion is the way he's altering the history and presenting himself as part of the development and even the creator, etc...
So... THIS is the story of the HERO ME.
inventions come out of necessities... When I get into 3D printing I already had a background in design and 3D animation. I bought the Ender 3 cuz it was the new thing... But living in the Dominican Republic was a problem cuz everything was double the price because of delivery and import taxes... So... If I wanted to improve the printer I had to do it by myself.
As a designer, I didn't like the look and complexity of what was the best fanduct at the time, David Petsel's Petsfang, and understanding how 3D printing works, and I meant the balance between weight, speed, airflow, etc... I started my little project.
The Hero journey started with a single-piece heat sink-cooling pipes piece, that looked kind of cool, but wasn't that effective. But over time I was uploading improvements, some of which were major improvements that received versions numbers (V2, V3).
I was part of the Facebook group, as Mediaman was in that time, and with every version he modifies mine to add an extra fan, but there's a problem with that.
If you know something about 3D printing, you know that adding weight to the x carriage is bad, because adding weight makes changing directions more difficult, but... You may want more airflow because you want to go faster! But what about the weight that we just talk? And... How fast do you really want to go on a swinging bed V-roller 3D printer?! Is the extra airflow necessary? And let's talk about layer adhesion... Do you really want to hold down the plastic that fast if you're not going that fast? What is the right balance?!
But! Mediaman wasn't a designer! What should he know? And some people love the idea of 2 fans! So who am I to say no?... So... V4 was planned as the definitive version. Inspired by the Petsfang I wanted something modular, a base that can receive different ABL sensors and pipes for different fans, I took the already proven heatsink base and modify it to make cable management easier, and also make it easier to print by making it flat in the bottom... The ducts were redesigned to allow the same airflow on both sides by moving the air to the middle of the pipes and from there separating it to both sides. The air exit was also redesigned to put more air in front and back of the nozzle, not just below.
I call it Hero Me for Modular Edition... I made it open source and even make public the Fusion 360 files so the community could make their own add-ons. But the fanduct was on pair with David Petsel's newer fanduct the Bullseye, and my design was simpler and smaller, using the screws already in the ender 3 tool head, so no need for extra parts or add more weight.
Around a month later and thanks to Thinkercad Mediaman released his 2 fan version, totally unnecessary and overkill... But! Who am I to judge? I leave the scene to be a father, I upload the files on September 9, 2018, and my daughter was born on September 16... So my priorities changes and my job was already done.
Then, a few years later I saw a video with Mediaman talking about how he collaborated with me in the process... Then another one he explains how he came up with the idea... And now this one... I never stop creating stuff! I NEVER stop designing! I stop sharing! Cuz people like him! I've been in the states for 4 years now! And he knows it! He could ask me to work together on this! But he send me a message to let me know that he was launching a new package full of stuff that you really don't need! You want to learn what you really need to achieve high speed printing? Check the VZBot development! A carriage so simple and light that makes everything else obsolete! You DONT need 10 pounds of stuff in your X carriage You don't need 2 5015 blowers to run then slower and lower the noise! You don't need to put 1 5015 at 100% to get long overhangs!!! And he didn't came with the idea of the Hero me... I DID IT!!!
I have no argument or disagreement with your origin story of the HERO ME. I am very sorry for not being clear enough in properly crediting you for your work in the impromptu and unrehearsed interview with Joel. And for incorrectly remembering the country you are from. In all my documentation I do give you full credit for the creation of the HERO ME design (and the correct country reference) that you developed nearly 5 years ago.
Your design's 12 STLs support four common platformed 3D printers (CR-10, CR-10S, Ender 3, Ender 3 Pro, and clones), 1 hot-end, 3 fan ducts, 3 ABL sensors, and the design was only for Bowden setups.
What I do take credit for are all is the significant new design work (over 610 STLs with continuous development over the past 5 years) to enable my Gen7 Release 4 to fully support over 115 3D printer models, both Bowden and Direct Drive versions, 47 hot-ends, 37 extruders, 35 part cooling setups, 20 ABLs, 14 accelerometers, 8 LED mounts, 4 endoscope mounts, and much more.
The closest descriptive comparison between what you created and what I have done would be that I was inspired by what you designed. There are only two things left that are in common between your work and mine. First, part of the name, which I kept out of respect, and crediting your work from which mine was inspired. Had I changed the name, people could have said that I has appropriated your work and called it my own. I did not, and have not. #2. The position of the grooves for mounting part cooling ducts to the Base. .
What few parts from your work (8 STLs) where mine have the same specific function, mine have been recreated from scratch and are beyond any possible direct comparison. Only the core Base STL has any remote resemblance, but when viewed side by side anyone would see that they are totally different.
As I have said in my other reply, going forward I will be sure to correctly credit your work (as I have always done in my documentation) and make the distinction between your original design's inspiration. and what I have created, completely clear in all future interviews, presentations, documentation, etc.
Imagine uploading something open source and then complaining that someone said something without bad intentions wrong. In fact, he had good intentions that he acknowledged you.
In my opinion you can be happy in the first place that he credits you that way he does. He could just have came up with a new name said "it was an open source project from another guy" and just put credits in the description with very small letters and call it a day. How can you be angry over such nonsense? For outsider it looks like you are jealous and bitter about the accomplishment from Mediaman. And then the argument with getting noticed by TSMC. Honestly, that gives me weird vibes like children saying "my Dad works at Nintendo blabla..". Dude, you made your stuff public and then complain that other people use and improve it. You are embarrassing yourself.
Also the thing that you are mad about with you didn't stop designing, you just stopped uploading. How does that matter? It is completely irrelevant because literally who cares? The outcome is kinda the same if you stop designing or stop uploading your creations.
Next thing is that he has no obligations when it comes to you to begin with.
The very sad part is, that you also gave your blessing for him to take over. In other words, you gave him the rights for it by giving up yours. That's how it works when someone is taking something over. You literally gave up your rights. From that perspective he doesn't have to Credit you. Or do you see on Fallout 4 that the original creators of classic Fallout 1 are credited in any ways by Bethesda? Honestly, it's so wrong from so many perspectives. Its just throwing a temper tantrum online over nothing.
@@denis2381 the difference is, Bethesda bought the rights of the games, they didn't took fallout and started modifying on top and took it as their... They credited themselves as the creators of 3 and 4... I didn't give up, I finished a product that was in development for some time, I made hundreds of tests to find the right balance of weight and airflow... I didn't give the rights to 1 person, I uploaded the fusion files to thingiverse to the community! To everyone!!! Even you!!! I wasn't mad cuz he's making money or modded the thing... I was mad because he changed the story and took full credit... "He was working with me" then "was his idea" etc...
@@MediaMan3D are you going to give him his cut of the money though? you used a design that had a clear noncommercial tag on it, it's not yours, that's like trying to develop a design based on Pokémon, just because they made it a long time ago and haven't changed the Pikachu design, saying oh well I made it better doesn't mean you didn't steal the idea and the design to begin with!!