Classic Austin Mini Repaint / Respray And Iwata W400 vs W400 Bellaria Comparison
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- In this video i will be taking you through the Repaint on this classic austin mini and also doing a comparison for you on the standard IWata W400 VS The IWata W400 Bellairia
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I paint at home and the W400's are the first really good guns I have purchased. Prior to that I was using Chinese knock-offs with varying results.
I will never forget how it felt to use the Iwatta the first time instead of a 30 dollar paint gun.
Just everything seemed easier, flowed better, and I didn't even have to cut and buff the paint if I didn't want to.
It’s amazing how a better gun can really up your finish abs ease of it to isn’t it Scott
I use my w400 for primer with a 1.8 tip and gives amazing results. It has been used like this for countless jobs, and still sprays beautiful. I love it.
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great job..ive watched a lot of painting videos and I must say I enjoy yours the most because you explain things so well an have answered a lot of questions i needed answers to just by listening to you talk..your channel will go far because you're so thorough..thanks again and I will continue to watch and learn..Thanks Wendell....
thankyou for the great comments and appreciate you taking the time to comment too
Best channel on RUclips
Had to give this one a look again as you have just done a mini on the channel 👍great content mate
Thanks mate just a shame I filmed it on a brick lol
@@TonysRefinishingTV 😂great job mate and the new video you have just done on the mini i have just posted a video up tonight and gave you a shout out and link
Thanks man appreciate that buddy
@@TonysRefinishingTV your more than welcome mate 👍
i have same w 400 i change only cap from bellaria best gun i have used
Nice video! I have used the Devilbiss Gti pro and newer get used to it so I sold it and bought a W400 and like it alot.Not as goodlooking gun but it is lighter and applies paint smoother than the Gti pro.
yes i have to agree mate the iwata w400 is so easy to setup for a super flat finish and a great gun for the money all day long but recently ive streered more towards the prolite for clear as ive just hit a groove with it and found it effortless to use
I just got this same gun except the 1.4 .
I have been doing full paint jobs with a devilbiss flg4 . I was promoted to paint tech 4 months ago and that's all I had been able to get my hands on but the fan is so small . and it takes forever for me to get in and out of the booth . I can tell wait to get this iwata in the mail!!!
+john murphy love the iwatas ive for my bellairia had it a long time now with no issues and still sprays as good as the day I bought it , big jobs or small it never lets me down for the money they have to be one of the best mid range all rounders
Nice job i am a spray painter from the netherlands and your new subscriber 😉 i only have 3 years of experience so i am still kind of new to this trade
+kevin hekers hi Kevin welcome to
The channel nice to have you with us and hope you enjoy
Nice clean job Tony.no need to rush well done 10 out of 10
thanks
to lewigas290
i use the te10 air cap on my pro lite for direct gloss,through a 1.3 fluid tip of course. Also good for any base coats and pearl... Devilbiss Dedicated
Thank for another great gun review along with tips on the 2k direct gloss job I liked the fade out thinner tip never new how that was done. Aslso looking forward to giving the gun a try myself
Cheers Mark
+Mark Emmett youl have to let me know how you like it mark when it gets sent out and hope you enjoy it
Thank you for the advice great work keep the videos coming
I have found that the original w400 1.4mm nozzle opening measures about 1.3mm, while while the bellaria 1.4mm nozzle opening mesures 1.4mm. I have measured the original w400 1.3mm nozzle opening as well and it measures about 1.2mm. This may explain the slower flow of paint with the original w400 in 1.3mm, as it is really a 1.2mm nozzle. In the bellaria iwata has accurately labeled the nozzle size.
nice job Tony great video congratulations to Mark on winning the gun.
+Stuart Smalley thanks Stuart
I didnt know they made paint like the old celly that i used when I was a YTS in 1984 . It looks like a nice paint to spray or you make it look easy, Its a shame about the color..Thanks for the upload Tony....
+Tosh twentythree (tosh 23) lol it's 2k direct gloss , miles apart from the old celly paint but ideal for budget resprays and vans ect
Cracking finish tony nothing wrong with that!
Thanks Andrew
Buen trabajo, que bueno!! me gusta mucho tu vídeo
Good stuff Tony,i often wondered what the differences between the two of them were. I have nearly bought a bellaria a few times but being Devilbiss Dedicated i have'nt. Did you try the te20 cap on your pro lite yet? I love them myself as i do the t110 as they are both awsome clear air caps. Keep up the good work and a big hello from Perth Australia.👍
+Troy Beauchamp hi troy yes ive tried it but ive gotta admit i didnt like it but i will be trying again as i was probably biased to the performance of the t110 at the time , and a bellairia is brillant for the money teams up niceley next to the prolite
We would never had guessed you had a bellaria, after all you only mentioned it 53 times!
Well least you didn’t miss it mate
it would be very nice to see you prep it and block it
cos you do it so informative
it help for people who just starting
many thanks
+Sergei S if you look through there's a few videos on the channel with prep blocking alsorts , but this one my job was just to paint I'm afraid
+Sergei S If you hit the subscribe button you will be able to see all of Tonys Uploads that show how he preps and blocks out his jobs. And like you say he does take the effort to explain what he is doing and why he does things the way he does. Top guy spending a lot of his time to do this for us that are looking for hints and tips Cheers Tony.
+Mark Emmett thankyou for the nice comments mark they are appreciated
great job.
super idea with fade out thinner !!! Briliant
+Mirek M. Thanks it's a trick I learnt a few years back and thought it would be a handy one to share
The ongoing question - when repairing damaged/rusty parts what goes first on the bare metal? Anticorrosion primers or filler?
Epoxy is best then filler over that as the epoxy will seal the cleaned up metal from moisture not only from the usual places but also moisture and humidity in the air
When you say direct gloss, do you mean single stage? As in, no clear coat needed. Or lacquer?
Yes Curtis so 2k gloss colour
My old dad had a Mini that colour. We called it Shining Light Diarrhoea.
Carry on...
lol its not the best colour but its its original one
Another great video mate👍 thanks for sharing.
+Marc Pople cheers fella and no problem at all thanks for watching
You dont happen to have the paint code for this colour do you ?
I'll add it to the shopping lost then mate..
Classic cream gloss. Nice
Mr Tony,,which gun of yours do you like the best,,for best finish"s..The Devillbiss prolite with T110 air cap,,The flg 5,,Or the Iwata w400 bellaria..??Please let me know what you say is best for awsome finish"s on clear caot..Really love all your video's but ,,I haven't seen you make any new video's,,One of the best in youtube out there keep it rolling..
+Arianamarie Fernandez Thankyou for the very nice comments I just needed a break from things for abit but we have new videos up in the next few days , it's a very close battle between the prolite with t110 and the sata 5000 for clearcoat finish either of them are a great gun and tbh I'd recommend either of those if you had the budget go for the sata as it does lay so clean and flat but with budget in mind then I'd say unless you use your clear gun all day everyday then go for the prolite you can't fault it for price or finish
Tonys_Refinishing thanks for the information,,do you still use your two other gun's flg 5 & iwata w400 bellaria for clear coat..?Did you buy a sata 5000 rp 1.3??I understand you need a break everyone does from daily things in life..Just keep positive & your family & your self should better,,Thanks for the reply,,I'll see you in your new video's coming up,keep it rolling..
+Arianamarie Fernandez the sata 5000 I have is a 1.2 rp digital , beautiful gun , the flg I don't use for clear anymore just as I have plenty of better guns for clear but I'm still I big fan and still use my w400 for clear aswell
Hi Tony, great vid as always. How would you rate the Pro Lite for spraying direct gloss versus the iwata bell aria and W400? What fluid tip and air cap set up would you go for if you were to use the Pro Lite for direct gloss on mainly classic cars. Thanks in advance of your help
+lewigas290 i cant seem to crack the prolite for direct gloss if im honest the bellaria wins hands down , something im trying more with the prolite but the bellaria is just so easy to setup for it and lays it down so nice
iwata w400 bellaria 1.3 is good for basecoat silver metallic?
Yes !
@@mitchellferre1652 thanks, mate.
I'm doing a mini at min,using mac1 paint black,nice job👍
Fade out idea was a must on mine thank you for the info
+daz baker awesome man , if you follow us on Instagram make sure you tag us in the pictures would be great to see your work
how long have you got to get the paint on after adding hardener to paint ? love the videos mate keep it up.
+mrrover35 thanks mate and I will be keeping the videos up , as for time to paint ideally you want to start to paint straight away as the catalysts in the hardner will start to work straight away so the sooner the better , paint has a pot life as such but it's always best to prep up suit up and then mix and shoot your paint straight away really
Arm prosthesis color. Very nice color if you are not planning to own that car.
each to there own , this was the cars original factory colour when new so as most this customer wanted to keep it original
Tried that ANI primer gun today mate, didn't want to put any thinners in it in case it upset the celly it was going over.
It just spat bits of primer onto the car....wouldn't spray at all.
Had to strip the gun down , clean it out , and remix whith 30% thinners .
This primer is really thick out the tin, what do you recommend mate ? Is there a thinner 2k primer or shall I just put some thinners in ....seemed to spray ok with the thinners .
Just use with abit of thinner mate the ones that spray the real thick primers are like the sagolas I’ve got that are mega money for primer so it’s best just to add a tad of thinner
hi Tony very good video.I have a complete interior including including full roll cage with many tubes to spray also engine bay and inside of boot compartment on the same car in 2k solid colour,having checked the colour on a spray out card it took 9 coats to get coverageThe colour is orange and very transparent.Ime a bit concerned about too much material build up with 9 coats to apply and runs occuring any ideas to save a world of pain. cheers
+steve ruf hi personally id drop a full white layer over the car have no break throughs showing anywhere and it should colour up faster that way for you, but 9 coats would be way to much build
Hiya Tony.. I'm using Maxmayer 2k primer with the ANI . this stuff is just too thick for this gun. Its like bloody treacle, you can literally stand a spoon up in it. What else can I use that is thinner ?
What size tip ?
@@TonysRefinishingTV 1.8 mate
Try a tad more thinner mate
@@TonysRefinishingTV Did as you suggested mate, got it spot on in the end..cheers Tony !!
Brilliant mate glad it helped
What would be the cost of doing this job on a mini? Thanks
it depends really on the work that goes into it before the paint stage id say with us around £3000 for a job like this
Will the fade out thinners cause any long term paint defects? I know on blends that it will haze the area after several years in the sun.
Do you get a chance to see your paint jobs as they age? I haven't seen the thinners used on a complete respray before. I like the idea of re-wetting the dry areas but I am concerned about long term effects (if any).
Thanks in advance for any response.
Not on this job it won’t as it’s all fresh paint and the safe out thinner is just basically a strong 2k thinner which the paint has in anyway
Really like this guy.....think he can cross my t's and dot my i's
thanks fella really appretiate the feedback
Nice job again mate. Can you use ordinary 2k thinners instead of fade out thinners for the dry edges?
+Barry Jones hi Barry I have done in the past but it doesn't melt the same as blending thinners does for the price it's just worth grabbing some if I'm honest
Brilliant job. adorable colour looks on that mini.. glad to know what's the code colour? if you don't mind to share.😉
I’m sorry this was years ago I’ve no idea on the colour
@@TonysRefinishingTV it's ok. thanks for your kind prompt. thanks for sharing.
Great review Tony thanks, quick question if you wouldn't mind, how does the W400 standard compare to your FLG5? I'm a DIY guy and love to paint, looking for an all-rounder and can't decide between FLG5, W400 or possibly GPi? Would really appreciate your thoughts.
+Ian1044 Taylor out of the threee id o gpi as its the mid priced gun but does the job of any of the guns thhe w400 is a tad more pricey but the gpi defintey sprays better uless u spend th extra on the bellaria then thats the best of those but if it was me id would say gpi mate
+Tonys_Refinishing cheers Tony, really appreciate it 😀
Hello there new to the channel . Nice job
Thankyou and welcome to the channel
lovely job,what colour is the mini?
I'm retired now but I had a couple of binks for years do they still make them
I think so mate I’m honestly not 100% sure on that
Nice job
Thanks man
Whats the difference in the W400-LV, other than more than double the cost?
Great video, thanks. And for some reason I like the color on the Mini.
+David S lol the colours quite nice if I'm honest suits it , and if you mean the evo then they are a completely different gun much wider fan much wetter applicator than the normal w400 and they have a huge fan too awesome well built gun the evo
The fluid nozzle on the w400 -LV is more akin to the LPH400...it has 3 “slits” ( best way to describe) rather than the 4 that the LPH400 nozzles have...it’s kind of like iwata RP (reduced pressure) version of and LPH. just a FYI...the LPH and w400 gun body is exactly the same ...you can swap out the air caps and nozzles and make totally different t guns..I have a Bellaria and a w400 but I really have a Bellaria, a w400-LV and aN LpH400 In a 1.4 and 1.3 by swapping out nozzles and air caps. Good day!!
Great job!!! What’s the color code for that? Thanks for posting!
I have no idea mate this was so long ago lol
Do you think a 1.4mm will be quicker around a large job with a better film build and finish than the 1.3mm non Bellaria gun?
its mot about speed but quality in my book tbh id rather spend a little longer and gain a better finsih
like you did it on subaru and old vw van
Hello what would you suggest is the best spray gun to spray a whole car?
gotta be honest mate theres a thousand variable there lol what sor of paint type, experience budget compressor setup size of average job ect ect
Whats its the goal of using 2k thinners. Sorry i don't understand all that you say. Thanks for sahring
+Martín Denez 2k fade out thinners , so if you have an area you end up with a dry edge because of how you have to paint getting to the other side of the vehicle and the wet edge has started to flash off so it leaves a slight dry patch you can use fade out thinner on those areas to active the dry and wet edges and melt them together
nota 10 parabens trabalho lindo
is fade out thinners the same as ordinary thinner? . great video by the way.
no they are different products and thanks
Does the regular W400 have a tulip shaped fluid nozzle?
+faustsmith regular the water based base version uses the other style
Hi Tony, I am having a 1275GT classic mini and it is read for paint. Do you take on work? Gary
+Gary Cox replied to you through our Facebook gary
what are the specs on your compressor volume cfm and 2 bar in psi how much is that exactly brother.
+Rodolfo Pierre hi we run a 150 litre compressor with 14cfm free air delivery , roughly 30psi
Hi Tony, just found you on utube and have been watching all your great videos. I'm 49 and recent to painting but it's the trade I wanted when young. I paint all kinds of vehicles as part of my job from car panels, trucks and I've even done a fuel tanker! One thing that no one seems to do vids on is how to fix paint defects e.g. runs in 2k direct gloss any chance of a video on that some time? Keep up the brilliant vids
+Barry Gallagher hi mate so glad you like the channel and that's a great idea for a video mate once I'm back from Greece from my hols I a week or so il be hammering the vids with new ideas n tips so I'll be sure to add that in anything else you think of just ask
Hiya Tony, just bought one of those cheap ANI primer guns you used in another video.
About £30 I think in a 1.8.....they do a 1.5 setup for £ 10...any chance of throwing some 2k through the 1.5 see what its like ?
Cheers Mate
Alan.
Me throwing some through mate or you in lost mate
@@TonysRefinishingTV Sorry Tony, I was thinking of you, just to see what it comes out like? Happy to pay for the set up from SGD .
I don’t even have the gun anymore tbh mate I’m afraid
excellent work !!! What is the color of the paint? cordially
+tony montana hi tonynin really sorry if I didn't include it in the description of the video or the narration then I'm not sure it's an old English white type colour
Hi Tony great vids have you got any on spraying / flatting Apoxy primer thanks
hi rich i havent ive just got the high build primer videos but i will try in the near future to include some for you
+Tonys_Refinishing hi Tony ok, thanks for the reply... Just thought I'd ask as hadn't seen any.... Be good if you ever get chance...... Videos are great ... Very detailed keep up good work and thanks
not a problem rich and anytime theres something you want to ask or see included just shout and il get that sorted in future ones
+Tonys_Refinishing , thank you very much Tony, still got a lot of your vids to view..... The good thing I do like is your very detailed and it helps ppl.... Keep up good work and thanks again
i try to include as much as i can but sometimes ding it for so many years i leave bts out just because its secind nature so to have suggestions from guys like yourself is great and appretiated , hope you enjoy them mate
How much is a budget jobbie like this then
Which direct gloss was it?
man this was years ago i have no idea
What's the cost to have a mini done? Few coats of red base and few of clear?
But of a longer question then that tbh there’s never a repaint that’s that simple , red base usually needs a lot more coats as it’s very transparent by nature and it would depends on the confirm of the car too
Tonys_Refinishing well for the most part she's red already and will probably have a light coat of red or white to help with coverage prior to having around 2 coats of red.
honestly id not repaint one even if part prepped for less than £1500
Tonys_Refinishing sounds about right and pretty close to my budget ha want pisses me off the most is i have all the gear and the ability to paint just no where to do it haha guess that's part of what people pay for, the facilities, time,materials etc
Yeah unfortunately that’s the main cost in this game really the tooling materials and the day to day expense of he shop too
would love to see the cars on the sun after they are done an assemble and please do a review on the sharpe fx 3000.
+Rodolfo Pierre unfortunately I don't always get to see them finished myself but I will try and get those shots whenever I can for you , do you have any idea where I can get one of those guns from
hello tony can you explain a bit more eg if i was to spray clear a light coat and then a heavy coat is it about distence from panel or being quick as i am new to al this
Light coat vs heavy coat = same distance, move a bit slower or faster. Possibly have fluid adjustment wound more in or out too.
can you tell me the name of the paint and code please
I’m sorry mate I’m not sure
super! iwata cool!)
Why wouldn't you paint the roof first!
is it ok to cut and polish direct gloss.
I am unfortunate enough to have to spray outside. i have a few midge flies landed on paint. need to get them out.
what do you recommend apart from doing it inside instead. 😂
thanks. vids are helpful.
Lol I’d recommend a good compound then mate and some wet flat lol , tbh if your painting outside or just under cover you run the risk of contamination either way , even in booths flies get in sometimes trust me lol, for direct gloss I’ve found 3m fast cut to be my personal favourite and yes it’s fine to flat and polish
@@TonysRefinishingTV many thanks. it's a 20 year old sprinter so not expecting perfection but reasonable finish would be nice.
A quick flat and polish will soon sort that for you buddy if you get stuck with anything your always welcome to message me through the Facebook page or Instagram too mate
That is a nice finish???
+Alphonse Marian Gabriel how do you mean ?
How regulation you use?
How do you mean
@@TonysRefinishingTV What regulation do you use in the w400 product and fan?
2bar full fan fluid adjust as required
W400 is great clear gun and for single stage.not so good for metallics in base coat
Not tried it for base I’ve got the bellairia for base and that’s beautiful tbh
@@TonysRefinishingTV thanks for the review I just ordered one 199 bucks on Ebay direct from japan
No problem at all mate
Do you also prefer the Bellaria for water based basecoat ? Silvers and light metallics for example
I use mostly my sagola dvr aqua for water but the bellairia is more than capable with water based paints
Only a mini shame on you Lol
Thanks for sharing.
sorry haha and thanks for watching
Ral?????
Not sure it was years ago I painted this
5:18 "it's only a mini" said with contempt in his voice!
Glad that's not my restored car!
Please donate me one of your gun...please..🙏🙏🙏😌😌😌😌😌