Story Time, episode 1: The 'Otherworld'... (Bernardo Kastrup)
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- This is a myth about the nature of reality and of our condition as conscious entities in it, with ramifications into metaphysics, life after death, survival of identity, the telos of world history, and the unconscious agendas of people and groups. Fact or fiction? You be the judge. But whatever the answer, this is an intriguing, aesthetically pleasing story for the enjoyment of both right- and left-brained connoisseurs; a sculpture of thought at play in the sandpit of ontological possibilities...
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About the graphical effects in this video: All graphics are generated by 'Morphogence,' a generative art algorithm I've developed over the past 5 years. Morphogence uses a cellular automaton framework to simulate a universe whose entire phenomenology is determined by artificial neuronal networks. In other words, none of the graphical effects in this video is explicitly created by a human being, but emerge from a form of machine intelligence that constantly struggles between the opposite poles of structure and chaos; habit and novelty. If you are an academic, an artist, or would otherwise like to explore commercial uses of Morphogence, please contact me through this contact form: www.bernardokas.... (Please don't forget to include your full name, affiliation, contact information, and the nature of your interest, otherwise I won't be able to reply.)
Music track "Decisions" copyright by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com). Licensed under Creative Commons Attribution 3.0.
I recently dreamt walking down a long corridor and seeing 2 of myself in multiple rooms. Each wearing a vr headset, completely oblivious of the other standing just inches away. Realizing they had forgotten they were playing a 'game' and how unlikely it was they would hear me if I asked them to keep the noise down, I turned the lights off in each of the rooms and walked away. A dream is never just a dream.
Thanks AirFiveR! Yes, I uploaded a few more stories, as you probably already found out. And I do have three published books.
Again very similar to Tom Campbell's My Big TOE where we are avatars in a virtual reality, programmed by consciousness, and the aim of the game is to increase the quality of our consciousness, and therefore the quality of the consciousness of Mind, through our free will decisions.
Suas concepções são admiravelmente convincentes, claras, elegantes. A. Watts comenta a contradição entre as duas cosmogonias vigentes, a oriental, de origem hindu, que vê a vida como um jogo com primazia da consciência, e a ocidental, que adota o modelo cerâmico (adão feito do barro) com primazia da matéria. Ao que entendo, ao acoplar os dois modelos, você mantém a superioridade da consciência. O que lhe interessa, se não estou enganado, é resolver como a realidade densa se substancializa na consciência. (Algo que também atarefava D. Bohm). Acho sua empreitada muito empolgante e quero agradecer por suas ativas e generosas explicações.
+Helio Biesemeyer Obrigado!
Amazing, I think I'm passed at my metta self.. Thanks Bernardo.
I really enjoyed this series of videos and have listened to them multiple times while working out or cleaning or driving.
Fantastic work!
this is fantastic
Interesting myth! I thought of the same concepts, but instead of several meta self I thought of it as one big self that is EVERYTHING. Indeed a role play of sorts but I visualised it more that such a meta-self ultimate goal would be an accumulation of everything, and I really mean everything. It just wants to "grow" and consumes every emotion, every experience, every situation trough trillions of forms and in order to best do this it has to forget itself, lose itself in the dream. And as we know we can only grow from relationships, if all there was that is was me, then I could not grow, which is why "ego" are temporary programs and characters this original meta self plays.
Sorry had not finished the whole video, heard your final conclusion at the end! Really appreciated this little "myth", thanks a lot!
I like it.
I like this metaphor.. .however, have you considered that "our level" is just another of the "meta-levels". What gives you the confidence to suggest that we are the "end-point" of the meta-levels. Could we ourselves be yet another "meta-level" and our dreams or sub-conscious are in fact spawning off new levels?
You use the idea of a hierarchy, but what if we instead inserted the idea of a fractal structure instead, what would be the implications of this?
Lexx Icon I like the idea of fractal structure and, in fact, use it in another "Story Time" video, have a look. As for our level being the bottom level or not, well, if we are meta-players in a level below us, we don't seem to be aware of it, which makes the story a little difficult. Our artificial reality and gaming technologies may suggest, but I think it's too much fantasy to say that characters in our games are conscious, so I didn't make that part of this myth.
Nice theory, but shouldn't the game extend beneath our reality where we are 'meta-players' to a multitude of beings below us, where we direct their realities as done with us by beings of higher levels?
In principle yes, but then we would know, wouldn't we? :)
Well, we wouldn't know if it would be something that we do "unconsciously".
“As flies to wanton boys are we to the gods; They kill us for their sport.” King Lear
Thank you for this, and all the rest that you do.
I like the story but I think that it could be that the meta-selfs are
not playing characters completely independent from each other on a
sub-level. I would rather think that there is one main player split into
two others (representing good and evil) and those two are split into
several other players (entities that represent one aspect of our human
psyche like, for example, envy, hate, hope, love, etc.) each having
their own goals in the game and our consciousness is so to speak a
vessel for them and a playboard itself. So the outcomes of the smaller
games played within our human consciousness will ultimately determine
the outcome of the complete human narrative.
Would there be a way to opt out of the game?
Love the story time collection, truly grateful to have them
I am glad to have found you through Mu. I could feel my brain. Nice!
It is fun to entertain ideas like this sometimes, but I generally dislike the idea of looking at life as a game. If you view life as a game, then all of the worst kinds of suffering are also part of a "game" (such as children getting cancer and suffering until they die). It would mean that our meta-selves playing this game are quite callous and twisted.
Some games are pretty serious and no reason for jokes. But they are still games so long as at the "game over," only the game ends and not you. It is also tricky to pass value judgments on the overall game from the limited perspective of being within the game.
Excellent stuff as usual by Bernardo! Anyone who finds this difficult to understand, should read the Yoga Vasistha. The dream within a dream within a dream story of Queen Lila and a number of other stories make this concept easy to understand for non-technical audience.
Very similar to Robert Monroe's books, very interesting
metaception...
Brilliant idea!
My god