She has INCREDIBLE tone control. The way she is able to sound so sweet, honest and nice while under the most extreme pressure imaginable and telling bold face lies is scary!!!
This cross is great. She doesn't even know what is happening. The state got her to admit she thought all that physical abuse was okay YET she made it up because of the police. GUILTY
6:25 Idk, maybe I think differently, I know everyone is different 🤷♀️ But if there was a single father living next door to me, who is working 12-15 hour days and STILL can barely make ends meet, who had a little girl who had no mother, had no toys to play with, and spent 90% of her time away from the only family she has, her dad, and I was watching her, I wouldn’t be keeping track of all the “stuff her father owes me”, especially when I’m married to a husband whose family owns a construction company, I’m able to be a stay-at-home mom, and I’m collecting welfare on top of it. I know Lindsay and T.J. were not well-off by any means, but they weren’t nearly as in dire of a situation as Jason and Hannah were. I wouldn’t be upset about throwing her clothes in our wash when I’m already washing my own kids’ clothes anyway, or giving her a plate of food when I’m already making a meal. I mean how much food could a 30-lb. toddler consume? So I bought her a costume, or a toy, or a shirt at Walmart, whoopty doo? 🙄 I’d just let it go, I wouldn’t mind. I’d be happy to help when I could. The last thing I’d want to do is pile more pressure on them, and I’d be happy to give a little girl who has nothing a few nice things to have, or a bath, or some food, or clean clothes. Idk maybe I’m wrong, but that’s how I would handle it.
I was on the fence until the end. Any level headed mother knows it's not okay to squeeze, punch, shake a child especially a toddler. She's exactly where she belongs.
But my question is, how…. How did that happen so quickly?? Within just minutes of him dropping her off? I can’t imagine her attacking that child right off the bat like that. Poor child probably got beat by her dad too. That’s honestly probably why the babysitter thought well, if dad thinks it’s ok… 😔 so freaking sad for that little girl. The dad obviously didn’t care about her and where was the mom? Breaks my heart
Yes. Her defence lawyer ( female) has no manners and starts yelling at the cop very aggressively. Of course, she has no defence to make and she needs to be seen doing something.
What? The prosecutor made digs and even said something about her non marriage and welfare. The judge asked the jury to disregard but you know that did not happen. Once said it influences your opinion of the person. She was very rude.
Her final answers were absolutely shocking! NO, it’s not okay! If you feel this angry with your child or anyone else’s child…call a true and trusted friend and tell them it’s an emergency! She should have been capable of controlling herself but I understand that sometimes you have to simply quit! She could have told Jason that she wasn’t able to watch Hannah anymore. But she thinks battering a child is fine? She’s a monster!
Being a childcare provider myself, there’s no way I’d work for 12 hour stretch’s, and above all I would never allow my fees to accrue.. All she had to do was simply give her notice instead of using Hanna as a punching bag until the final punch in knocking her out dead! she’d be a free woman today, living a free life with her own two girls if she had. Obviously, killing Hanna was worth more than her freedom with her daughters! She is where she belongs for life!!
I agree, she was overworked and underpaid. My daycare expenses didn’t even come close to being comparable to her fees (low) and I had military child care services. I wish she would of been honest and told him that it’s not ok and had a contract so there was no question of care. Let alone deal with her personal/family issues. Instead she picked on a little girl…I hope she never gets out!
Her rate was cheap, But, keep in mind this merely supplements her government welfare and she kept it hidden as income. Welfare cheat, Liar AND baby killer.
After confessing, des it really matter? I guess it gives Lindsay an out to say I defended it to the max because I'm innocent. This situation is so hard on all families and if you don't plead guilty you have that to cling to.
10 minutes at the end of this video is what i think got Lindsay convicted. The things that come out of her mouth are unbelievable. She practically exposed herself alone
Here's the thing, if she never thought she "would get in trouble," why didn't she just tell the police what happened up front in the interview? She only changed her story when the police told her about the evidence they had
really good point. I've thought she was guilty since the beginning just bc how fast Hannah would have been incapacitated from her specific injuries points to the only possibility being lindsey but what you said just reinforced it. you're absolutely right, it makes no sense why she wouldn't just tell them she punched/smacked/shook Hannah right off the bat if she genuinely believed she had done nothing wrong and wouldn't get in trouble.
When I saw the photo of the bruising on her neck it is so obvious to me…..She was clearly being held by her face. Most likely when she was sitting on the toilet that was covered in ketchup… Lindsay was holding her face with one hand tight wide across her jaw I can picture it. The whole catch-up thing bothered me because anybody who’s had experience with a toddler knows that ketchup that Lindsay said she was squirting in the toilet… You know that ketchup is all over the seat the floor etc... The thought of that kid with her pants pulled down , being flopped onto the toilet seat covered in Ketchup being held by the face, being screamed at and struck! it’s horrifying to me…
I had to actually laugh at the prosecution asking "so is 8 AM before or after 4pm" following it up with so in actuality you googled how to make a bruise disappear BEFORE she fell off the train. Lindsay's answer of I'm not sure just made her look so silly. That's called uh oh I'm caught.
Not sure how to interpret the illogical timeline, does it mean Hannah already was bruised before the (alleged) fall of off the toy truck later That day?
Actually she looked up about bruises two days in a row because Hannah fell 2 days in a row because they went over that testimony earlier so actually what she should’ve said to her was yes 8 AM the next morning I looked up the bruises that were from her falling in the gravel from the day before because the bruises were more substantial the next morning and then of course later on in the afternoon when she fell off the train she looked it up again the following day or later on in the afternoon but either way there was two different times because there were two different incidences so that Did make sense but she didn’t say that she should have replied that to the prosecutor inside well yes because at 8 AM in the morning when he dropped her off in the morning the night before was when she fell in the gravel and she had the bruises on her chin and you know I’m by her T-shirt mark collarbone area so she did look it up at eight in the morning and then Hannah fell later on that afternoon again
I am still torn. The timing. So she laid in wait for her dad to leave and shook her so bad and possibly hitting her head on something then immediately calls her dad for help. Less than 3 minutes. That does not make sense. She did lie on the stand a few times. But the dads lies were very off. Forgot he had a friend sleep over and that he took him home yet the friends suit case was still at his house. He waited till the trial over a year after the investigation was over to tell the sheriff? Come on. You did see the house pics that little girl lived in right. No toys for her but a couple. No sheets on the bed. He is going through a divorce he had custody. I just believe they may have the wrong person. There is enough reasonable doubt here to at least have a hung jury.
@@incognito4522 I didn’t see it just started watching this tonight I’m waiting to see his testimony because he sounds like a “drug” dad to me. I half believe she didn’t beat Hannah but I don’t see all the evidence that she did.
@@incognito4522 yes because Hannah was crying, sobbing hysterical because she didn't want her daddy to leave. And Lindsay wanted her to shut up and that is why she started to shake her and drop her and shake her again. It's enough to shake a baby/ toddler for 10 seconds for the child to die. Lindsay said she shaked her aggressively for 1 minute straight and Hannah's head flipped back and forth. Try to shake your head aggressively for only a few seconds and you will see how awful it is gonna feel. Then imagine a small child being shaken even worse than that for a period of 1 minute.
Prosecutor asks: Was it your belief that you could physically discipline Hanna? “Yes.” Was it your belief that you could poke her in the chest? “Yes.” Was it your belief that you could slap her face with an open hand? “Yes.” Was it your belief that you could squeeze her middle? “Yes.” Was it your belief that you could hit her in the chin with a closed fist? “Yes.” Was it your belief that you could shake her? “Yes.” No further questions.
@@JMac-27 yes and I didn’t smile once. I was terrified, practically sobbing, choking out what happened to me while facing my abuser and his supporters, who happened to be my father and his family. Testifying is not a smiling or laughing matter, especially when the subject is murder of a helpless child.
Wow. Just wow. I feel like getting a flight from the UK just to shake this prosecutors hand for this cross examination. Even though she admitted it I was on the fence. After this. No reasonable doubt at all. High five prosecutor lady🤚🏻 RIP Hannah.
I'll join you, I'm in the lake district, where shall i pick you up.... seriously though, she is so smackable. it is just too horrid. I have only just got my head around the chris watts monster. stay happy and enjoy your RUclips journey from Elle x
@@elle6968 Leeds here! I've had a hard time with the Chris Watts tragedy too. I'm hooked on watching these trials, currently watching the Chris McNabb trial which is equally as horrendous.
I’m thinking that Hannah threw fits in the morning when her dad left ( she kind of says that she’d be upset when he’d leave) I believe that’s when she was beating this child and why… not just that last day but the day before if she googled how to get rid of a bruise a little after 8 am the day before that lines exactly up with her getting those bruises first thing in Am!!! She didn’t get those bruises at 4pm the day before.. how could she know Hannah’s gonna accidentally fall off a train this afternoon so I better Google how to get rid of the bruises she’ll get under her chin and on her chest! If that isn’t proof she did this I don’t know what is!
I think the same thing. I don't think the gravel story or the train story were true. They were just made up to explain the bruising. She kept adding to them and they didn't make sense to me. The train seat was to high and she wouldn't have gotten hurt like that in the gravel and then just jumped up and said she was ok. Liars always add stuff. Truth tellers don't.
Yes the Defense attorney's approach during the entire trial was to aggressive and did not help this Defendant. Remember innocent until proven guilty. It is early in the trial to say she and only she was responsible for Hannah's head injury.
I suffered a miscarriage too. It is extremely sad. I got super depressed and I am a single mom and a pre-k teacher and I made sure I took care of my mental health before anything could ever think of happening to anyone or anything. Even if I hadn't I could NEVER bring myself to what she did. She targeted this little girl! It is a miracle her own children didn't suffer the same fate! That is the only explanation I can come to as to why she didn't touch her own kids as well. She was aware enough to know not to do that to her own kids and that other kid she also watched so she had some sort of premeditated thinking in this.
I’m am sorry for your loss. I hope you took good care of yourself. Women need time to heal. This woman was deeply resentful and unhappy. She kept pretending Everything was fine when clearly it was not. Maybe if she had taken the time to grieve and heal this could have been avoided. I’m not saying what she did was right. It was horrific. I’m only saying if you walk around hiding how you feel, never dealing with your problems they can burst out in the worst way imaginable.
Wow! Excellent cross from the prosecutor!! So sad that Hannah suffered from all of this mess!! Horrible to take out your adult frustrations on a child!!
am I the only person who has a problem with this minuet lie of her being 110 pounds and soon thereafter admittedly lied about her height too on her liscence "make her feel better about herself?!?! Like I know it seems really redundant but it's those little things that put together paint a picture of her character.
And the fact she lied about purposely not being married so she could continue to collect welfare….. she denied this even though her BFF testified she told her this
@@cortneyrens take that with a grain of sand. There was no proof presented by the prosecution. That would be easy for the prosecution to get. Not to mention even the judge said to disregard that statement. Problem is the prosecution knew it would still make an impact just like it did on you.
@@cortneyrens who was her bff? I thought that came from her so called mother in law Paula who lied about cleaning her home when clearly in the pics she did not clean her house at all.
Just knowing my personal texts would be read would be deterrent enough for me to not take the stand. How humiliating. Not to mention she had that 18 hour text fight while she was watching about 8 toddlers.
She said “no but we were walking in the house” ooops she slipped up, it enrages me that she smiles the whole time she’s testifying no matter what the subject is
What's very telling is that every time this lawyer has an objection sustained she gets a nasty, smug smirk, like " ha ha " all proud of herself. You can see the core of her personality is nasty. She can't hide it....her smile is actually creepy Listening to her txt msg's again tells you EXACTLY who she was and what she was like.
i dont see that, the child fell out within minutes of being dropped off. very odd. and the fact that no other child ever had any signs of any type of abuse. usually people who do this will have signs with other kids as well. Im not voting either way but it seems odd tht the kid went down so fast. her arguing with her husband is neither here nor there
Jennifer S. I agree. I know her father should have been looked into further. It sounds like Hannah had a hard life at home. I keep going back and forth thinking that Hannah’s fate had to do with a combo of Lindsay and Hannah’s father. Either way, RIP sweet Hannah.
I completely agree.. Misdirected rage.. My ex would beat our dog when i went to work because we would argue in the morning.. Alot.. I never thought he could break a animals ribs...he also killed her puppies because i put a restraing order on hom and he found out before they served him. My mother is a psychiatrist and she said these people will beat up the weak because they are frustrated and have built up explosive rage. How sickening... That poor baby girl.. I wish we could euthanize her
@@nthedeepblue3521 OMG, Im so so sorry you had to endure and witness that. the poor dog! I hope you were able to rescue her, get her away from him. anyone that can do that to an innocent animal has major issues. Its good that you got away when you did. you could've very well been his next beating victim or dead victim. My uncle killed his childrens puppies IN FRONT of them! Also, my grandfather bought us grandkids bunnies for Easter. a few weeks later their bunnies "disappeared", he killed them and ate them for supper, and told the kids while they were eating!! Let me add, eating fried rabbit was normal when we were kids so eating rabbit wasnt disgusting. But the impact of knowing your dad killed your pet and now your eating it is very much horrific mental abuse. When I listen to the stories my cousins tell me they went thru I just cant imagine how any of them turned out ok. they deal with alot of nightmares
Ohhhhh she almost had me there 😂...i was thisclose to feel that she didn't, until the prosecutor put the squeeze on her, and started reading texts of the real Lindsey.. And her conniving smile.. yeah she going 👇..
It was great to see the smirk wiped off this fake, unfeeling creature's face when she got her prison sentence. Here's hoping it's been kept off her face by her fellow inmates!
@@Moonglow23 isn’t that just crazy that there are so many ppl who thought she was innocent, even after hearing Hanna would’ve immediately fell unconscious after that injury. Or even the fact Hanna didn’t want her dad to leave and was trying her best to get him not to leave her by getting extra kisses from him. I would like to think Hanna knew she was leaving that day and in a way this was her way of showing her dad how much she loved him. I feel like a lot of ppl think bc dads house was so dirty that he had to be a horrible person and was the one to beat his kid. If ppl only realized how many ppl actually have unkept homes. I use to do house cleaning for some very wealthy individuals and let me tell you from the oustside you would think my god I could just imagine how beautiful the inside is, ha! That’s a fricking joke! These ppl lived in some of the worst houses. There were plenty of them who were hoarders newspapers stacked to the sealing, magazines, and books stacked up, open empty cans of food everywhere, where they wanted me to clean” just to dust around everything, I wasn’t to move anything. And they paid me good for no work at all.
Im so glad my 4 year old son says whatever comes to his mind. Like he does Not bite his tongue at all. So if soneone does something to him. Just know hes snitching period!
I've seen you somewhere else, maybe Susan Bahns, I'll remember your handle clear as day! Plus, I think you and I have shared a stance or two! I ALWSYS pay attention to the names, it's weird, lol 💀😁🍀💞💫
@@carmenmorton8122 I wonder if anyone spoke to Lindsay’s oldest daughter? She supposedly was there when Hannah collapsed. She could probably tell if something traumatic happened.
Guess you missed the interrogation video with the police where she ADMITS to punching the child in the face AND shaking her that morning? Feel sorry for your kids, if you have any. 🥴
@@nevakendrick1164 yes.. she actually did say she had done those things . in the interrogations and on the stand. please don't say you think this child murderer is innocent. smh
My mum always told me someone that lies needs to be really good at remembering the lies they tell because they get caught out this is what’s happening here . No justification for killing a child and that’s what’s she did 😢
Her affect is off, she’s on the stand & acting like a giddy teenager. Murder or accident it’s a serious topic & her demeanour throughout is so inappropriate. Near the end finally, it’s getting serious🤬 Well done Madam Prosecutor, lured her in then “snap”.
she thought she could admit to all of that and just walk away like it never happened without consequence. wow. she is the delusional one not her fricking husband
Aha...fighting with her drinking husband, they both work for their parents, she couldn't take out her anger on her own kids, so she killed someone else's child....🤬🤬🤬
Okay, at first I really thought she didn't do it. But NOW, I really think I was wrong. She is a GREAT LIAR..... WHOA! God will want answers someday, she will have to be honest at some point, she may as well do it now and beg for pity on her soul, ask for forgiveness from God and poor baby Hanna's family. 😪👼
The district attorney got to her by rambling questions rapid fire at the defendant and shouting she broke her great job !!! She was tired from answering all questions all day long that just cost her murder charges !
I think it's funny the defense can't even handle not even a quarter of payback to what they have been dishing this entire trial. They are over there like "objection!" "Wahhh" 🍼"they are mean" 😭 🙄😂😂😂
@@renayadams7470 I wanted to drive to Ohio and high five this badass prosecution attorney. She was the bomb. That whole line of just like any husband and wife would, oh wait had a wedding but didn't get married couple would. 🤣🤣🤣
Lindsay provided the motive herself. She first lied when asked if she feared Jason moving in the neighborhood would result in him dumping his kids on her. Then bam, prosecutor produced her text to a friend saying just that! That was the moment I switched sides. Lindsey’s experience is a prime example why we should listen to our gut and just say no! Especially when we have judgments and bad feelings towards someone.
She also retracted her initial statement. She said she punched, pinched, squeezed and shook Hannah and then claimed it never happened. Lindsay is a liar and a child abuser
And the same happened when she was asked about her miscarriage .. she said her husband was supportive & compassionate and then boom prosecutor pulls out a post or text she wrote which stated the very opposite. And that's when the face of this lying defendant screams louder than any words ever could.Gotcha b!tch !! Brava to the prosecution ..
It's obvious that Lindsay is struggling with her lawyer's instructions to say yes or yes mam instead of ya, to smile when answering, and not to answer like a sarcastic child. Losing battle.
So she “had” to calculate her kids’ ages and took a whole minute to do so, but knew right off the bat that the other kid was “a week apart” from her own kids. 🤣🤣🤣🤣can’t make this up
Are you serious? Her counselor used every tactic at her disposal to get around the fact that she confessed, the Medical experts testimony that this was a catastrophic head injury that the little girl would NOT have been walking around and behaving normally after and in fact would be out immediately- she even accused the victim’s father VERY vociferously. She just couldn’t get passed the overwhelming evidence.
OMG, she just buried herself at the end. She answers, Yes, to being OK to hitting, squeezing, slapping etc. 😳. 😡. If the jury don't find her guilty, I'm giving up watching trials. 😪
Did they ask Jason if he got Hannah or how he disciplined her. I couldn’t finish watching his testimony. To me he was too calm for someone who’s child was murdered I don’t believe he’s innocent or father of the year. I saw a lot of red flags with him. I felt Lindsay actually showed more of a range of emotion including deep sadness for Hannah’s passing. Not saying I think she’s innocent just an observation. She doesn’t seem evil to me. This is why people shouldn’t never put their hands on each other accidents can happen. I don’t think anyone meant to really hurt Hannah they live in a culture of spanking and risk comes with that.
Just no. I don’t believe anyone changes their entire story so easily just to please the police interrogators. Perhaps had she been thrown in a dungeon for years or tortured or something, but they barely even had her sweating. Guilty.
Tinafish123 I bet TJ is really glad his uncle “forgot” to get the marriage license now! TJ....find a good woman to help to raise those girls and start fresh. Cut ties with the evil woman. Her daughters can look her up when they are 18yrs if they want to then.
What just happened here!!! Did lindsay not understand the prosecutor was implying she believed she could do all these physical things so DID do them. I think this defendant gets easily flustered and then doesn't fully comprehend the question or its implications so just starts agreeing with everything.
She did seem very unaware of what she admitted to, under cross examination. Her matter of fact demeanor was odd...how could she think those abusive acts against a child, were in ANYONE'S eyes, ok?
what on earth can anyone slap someone across their face? No one else, even their parents. How could it happen to just "babysitter" doing that physical behavior? omg..
LOVE how the prosecuting attorney asks her a question, hears a lie & then makes her read HER text proving she lied.
Yes. That was good
She has INCREDIBLE tone control. The way she is able to sound so sweet, honest and nice while under the most extreme pressure imaginable and telling bold face lies is scary!!!
Her body language/facial expressions tell a different story though!
@@Scrapfan they sure do
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Narcissist. Prolly a sociopath too!
Typical psychopath
This cross is great. She doesn't even know what is happening. The state got her to admit she thought all that physical abuse was okay YET she made it up because of the police. GUILTY
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6:25 Idk, maybe I think differently, I know everyone is different 🤷♀️ But if there was a single father living next door to me, who is working 12-15 hour days and STILL can barely make ends meet, who had a little girl who had no mother, had no toys to play with, and spent 90% of her time away from the only family she has, her dad, and I was watching her, I wouldn’t be keeping track of all the “stuff her father owes me”, especially when I’m married to a husband whose family owns a construction company, I’m able to be a stay-at-home mom, and I’m collecting welfare on top of it. I know Lindsay and T.J. were not well-off by any means, but they weren’t nearly as in dire of a situation as Jason and Hannah were. I wouldn’t be upset about throwing her clothes in our wash when I’m already washing my own kids’ clothes anyway, or giving her a plate of food when I’m already making a meal. I mean how much food could a 30-lb. toddler consume? So I bought her a costume, or a toy, or a shirt at Walmart, whoopty doo? 🙄 I’d just let it go, I wouldn’t mind. I’d be happy to help when I could. The last thing I’d want to do is pile more pressure on them, and I’d be happy to give a little girl who has nothing a few nice things to have, or a bath, or some food, or clean clothes. Idk maybe I’m wrong, but that’s how I would handle it.
Yes indeed, so respect this comment because I was thinking the same thing.
You’re not wrong. I agree and would do the same for a struggling single parent neighbor
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I have done all of these things and never thought twice about it.
Exactly
She even lied about her "husband" being compasionate. This is a prime example of a pathological liar.
All she does is lie. Lol. Her husband isn't even her husband
He is in prison as well!
She says it's okay to slap children and hit them on the chin with a closed fist?! Glad that came out!!
I was on the fence until the end. Any level headed mother knows it's not okay to squeeze, punch, shake a child especially a toddler. She's exactly where she belongs.
Agreed
I know she did it. She's a monster
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Exactly what I was just thinking.
But my question is, how…. How did that happen so quickly?? Within just minutes of him dropping her off? I can’t imagine her attacking that child right off the bat like that. Poor child probably got beat by her dad too. That’s honestly probably why the babysitter thought well, if dad thinks it’s ok… 😔 so freaking sad for that little girl. The dad obviously didn’t care about her and where was the mom? Breaks my heart
Notice how the prosecution talks to this defendant direct without being rude!
Yes. Her defence lawyer ( female) has no manners and starts yelling at the cop very aggressively. Of course, she has no defence to make and she needs to be seen doing something.
The prosecution * SPEAKS without being rude.
What? The prosecutor made digs and even said something about her non marriage and welfare. The judge asked the jury to disregard but you know that did not happen. Once said it influences your opinion of the person. She was very rude.
@@incognito4522 You haven’t watched much, both defense attorneys have been rude to every witness.
In Comparison to her attorneys! The prosecutor was a saint!💁
Her final answers were absolutely shocking! NO, it’s not okay! If you feel this angry with your child or anyone else’s child…call a true and trusted friend and tell them it’s an emergency! She should have been capable of controlling herself but I understand that sometimes you have to simply quit! She could have told Jason that she wasn’t able to watch Hannah anymore. But she thinks battering a child is fine? She’s a monster!
Thank you for the video. My heart breaks for Hannah, and her Daddy! Poor Innocent, Defenseless Baby!💔🙏🕊️💔🙏🕊️💔🙏🕊️
Being a childcare provider myself, there’s no way I’d work for 12 hour stretch’s, and above all I would never allow my fees to accrue.. All she had to do was simply give her notice instead of using Hanna as a punching bag until the final punch in knocking her out dead! she’d be a free woman today, living a free life with her own two girls if she had. Obviously, killing Hanna was worth more than her freedom with her daughters! She is where she belongs for life!!
I agree, she was overworked and underpaid. My daycare expenses didn’t even come close to being comparable to her fees (low) and I had military child care services. I wish she would of been honest and told him that it’s not ok and had a contract so there was no question of care. Let alone deal with her personal/family issues. Instead she picked on a little girl…I hope she never gets out!
Her rate was cheap, But, keep in mind this merely supplements her government welfare and she kept it hidden as income. Welfare cheat, Liar AND baby killer.
And her husband is a CONVICTED CHILD R@PIST. What a pair.
I’m also a provider and mother she did this to her self frfr
So glad this jury got it right. Rest in heaven sweet baby Hannah.
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Yes, they did
This prosecutor is top notch. Great questioning.
They should have never put her on the stand. Humans can’t possibly “strike” a question once it’s asked
After confessing, des it really matter? I guess it gives Lindsay an out to say I defended it to the max because I'm innocent. This situation is so hard on all families and if you don't plead guilty you have that to cling to.
She's completely unlikable.... she's a child murderer.
She would have been convicted even if she didn't take the stand
10 minutes at the end of this video is what i think got Lindsay convicted. The things that come out of her mouth are unbelievable. She practically exposed herself alone
you dont need a good memory if you tell the truth----- judge judy
Here's the thing, if she never thought she "would get in trouble," why didn't she just tell the police what happened up front in the interview? She only changed her story when the police told her about the evidence they had
really good point. I've thought she was guilty since the beginning just bc how fast Hannah would have been incapacitated from her specific injuries points to the only possibility being lindsey but what you said just reinforced it. you're absolutely right, it makes no sense why she wouldn't just tell them she punched/smacked/shook Hannah right off the bat if she genuinely believed she had done nothing wrong and wouldn't get in trouble.
Great point!
That obsequious smile and meekly feminine voice hides (poorly) a devastating amount of rage
This is a cold calculated, devious woman. She killed a baby and is sitting there smiling like butter wouldn't melt. Evil woman..
At the end she just basically confessed! It was crazy
Well she talked herself right into it. Believing it was ok to treat that baby girl like that.
Sherry Dennard I cannot believe anyone can be THAT dumb, but here she is!!
I can't believe she kept saying yes?
@@jessicas564 right. Yes yes yes she actually believed she had the right to hurt that girl.
she wasn't admitting any of it they were hypothetical questions and it tripped her up in the end
When I saw the photo of the bruising on her neck it is so obvious to me…..She was clearly being held by her face. Most likely when she was sitting on the toilet that was covered in ketchup… Lindsay was holding her face with one hand tight wide across her jaw I can picture it.
The whole catch-up thing bothered me because anybody who’s had experience with a toddler knows that ketchup that Lindsay said she was squirting in the toilet… You know that ketchup is all over the seat the floor etc...
The thought of that kid with her pants pulled down , being flopped onto the toilet seat covered in Ketchup being held by the face, being screamed at and struck! it’s horrifying to me…
But how did her dad not notice the bruising?? Doesn't make sense
I had to actually laugh at the prosecution asking "so is 8 AM before or after 4pm" following it up with so in actuality you googled how to make a bruise disappear BEFORE she fell off the train. Lindsay's answer of I'm not sure just made her look so silly. That's called uh oh I'm caught.
and her answer was just smiling slightly and not being sure....!
Sealed her fate in my opinion.
Not sure how to interpret the illogical timeline, does it mean Hannah already was bruised before the (alleged) fall of off the toy truck later That day?
@@Potamotrygorgeous Yes.
Actually she looked up about bruises two days in a row because Hannah fell 2 days in a row because they went over that testimony earlier so actually what she should’ve said to her was yes 8 AM the next morning I looked up the bruises that were from her falling in the gravel from the day before because the bruises were more substantial the next morning and then of course later on in the afternoon when she fell off the train she looked it up again the following day or later on in the afternoon but either way there was two different times because there were two different incidences so that Did make sense but she didn’t say that she should have replied that to the prosecutor inside well yes because at 8 AM in the morning when he dropped her off in the morning the night before was when she fell in the gravel and she had the bruises on her chin and you know I’m by her T-shirt mark collarbone area so she did look it up at eight in the morning and then Hannah fell later on that afternoon again
What kind of human being thinks it's OK to shake a 3 year old, hit this 3 year old up side her head (Lindsay's words)
This is EVIL!
NOTHING LESS!
Last three questions sealed her fate. I think she was very unhappy with her life and resented so much that she took it out on poor Hanna
I concur
I am still torn. The timing. So she laid in wait for her dad to leave and shook her so bad and possibly hitting her head on something then immediately calls her dad for help. Less than 3 minutes. That does not make sense. She did lie on the stand a few times. But the dads lies were very off. Forgot he had a friend sleep over and that he took him home yet the friends suit case was still at his house. He waited till the trial over a year after the investigation was over to tell the sheriff? Come on. You did see the house pics that little girl lived in right. No toys for her but a couple. No sheets on the bed. He is going through a divorce he had custody. I just believe they may have the wrong person. There is enough reasonable doubt here to at least have a hung jury.
@@incognito4522 I didn’t see it just started watching this tonight I’m waiting to see his testimony because he sounds like a “drug” dad to me. I half believe she didn’t beat Hannah but I don’t see all the evidence that she did.
@@incognito4522 yes because Hannah was crying, sobbing hysterical because she didn't want her daddy to leave. And Lindsay wanted her to shut up and that is why she started to shake her and drop her and shake her again. It's enough to shake a baby/ toddler for 10 seconds for the child to die. Lindsay said she shaked her aggressively for 1 minute straight and Hannah's head flipped back and forth. Try to shake your head aggressively for only a few seconds and you will see how awful it is gonna feel. Then imagine a small child being shaken even worse than that for a period of 1 minute.
@@suzannaj3834 I studied law at the Vienna university and I read the entire court documents. I have no doubt that she is guilty. No question about it.
Prosecutor asks: Was it your belief that you could physically discipline Hanna? “Yes.” Was it your belief that you could poke her in the chest? “Yes.” Was it your belief that you could slap her face with an open hand? “Yes.” Was it your belief that you could squeeze her middle? “Yes.” Was it your belief that you could hit her in the chin with a closed fist? “Yes.” Was it your belief that you could shake her? “Yes.” No further questions.
Time stamp?
@@FortheluvofGod 55:10 mark towards the end
i don’t get why she would say yes to all of that this is wild trial
@@l0St03807 thank you!
And the defense team probably yelled at her after court that day for admitting to all of that. Especially that Karen bully!
I do believe she just agreed with detectives, because the real truth was far worse
Agreed. She does sound like she’s agreeing with them, because she’s too much of a monster to say what really happened.
Agreed!
the prosecutor has exactly the right tone during cross..... to illicit the truth even inadvertently...........
That's how it should be done.
Her smiling is so messed up!!
have you ever testified?
@@JMac-27 yes and I didn’t smile once. I was terrified, practically sobbing, choking out what happened to me while facing my abuser and his supporters, who happened to be my father and his family. Testifying is not a smiling or laughing matter, especially when the subject is murder of a helpless child.
Great cross. The prosecution nailed her...
Wow. Just wow. I feel like getting a flight from the UK just to shake this prosecutors hand for this cross examination. Even though she admitted it I was on the fence. After this. No reasonable doubt at all. High five prosecutor lady🤚🏻 RIP Hannah.
She is good this lawyer
I'll join you, I'm in the lake district, where shall i pick you up....
seriously though, she is so smackable. it is just too horrid. I have only just got my head around the chris watts monster.
stay happy and enjoy your RUclips journey
from Elle x
@@elle6968 Leeds here! I've had a hard time with the Chris Watts tragedy too. I'm hooked on watching these trials, currently watching the Chris McNabb trial which is equally as horrendous.
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@@kathyb1188 , The McNabb trial broke my heart. Two week old baby... their own baby. Just sad
Omg she's flippin smiling/smirking.... 🤢
She can't contain her contempt for the prosecutor...🤣🤣....
OMG...FINALLY!!! The prosecution gals rock! (As does detective Turner.)
Detective Turner is delish. Yummy
@@GenX1968 huh? I got the exact opposite from her tone.
The pics are heartbreaking 💔 She beat that poor baby 😢
Her lawyer drills a detective about what is a closed fist, yet Lindsay clearly admits to hitting the baby with a closed fist.
I’m thinking that Hannah threw fits in the morning when her dad left ( she kind of says that she’d be upset when he’d leave) I believe that’s when she was beating this child and why… not just that last day but the day before if she googled how to get rid of a bruise a little after 8 am the day before that lines exactly up with her getting those bruises first thing in Am!!! She didn’t get those bruises at 4pm the day before.. how could she know Hannah’s gonna accidentally fall off a train this afternoon so I better Google how to get rid of the bruises she’ll get under her chin and on her chest! If that isn’t proof she did this I don’t know what is!
I think the same thing. I don't think the gravel story or the train story were true. They were just made up to explain the bruising. She kept adding to them and they didn't make sense to me. The train seat was to high and she wouldn't have gotten hurt like that in the gravel and then just jumped up and said she was ok. Liars always add stuff. Truth tellers don't.
Sounds very accurate
Prime example of if your not telling the truth, don't take the stand !!
Rest in peace a beautiful little Angel
Does she not even grasp the concept of what she is accused of? So sad... poor Hannah
Donna Snyder I felt the same way 😢 Wow 😮
Excellent cross - and unlike the Defence, she wasn't 'rude' to the witness. Truth finds a way of coming out.
Yes the Defense attorney's approach during the entire trial was to aggressive and did not help this Defendant. Remember innocent until proven guilty. It is early in the trial to say she and only she was responsible for Hannah's head injury.
@@robinsmith3987 Early? This was the last day of testimony.
Bev Rhys That would be, “Defense”. 😉
@@perryjohnson8213 OK - but I'm in Australia and in Australia it's spelled defence. Same word, different spelling, same meaning.
@@perryjohnson8213 Some countries use the correct English spelling Defence.
I suffered a miscarriage too. It is extremely sad. I got super depressed and I am a single mom and a pre-k teacher and I made sure I took care of my mental health before anything could ever think of happening to anyone or anything. Even if I hadn't I could NEVER bring myself to what she did. She targeted this little girl! It is a miracle her own children didn't suffer the same fate! That is the only explanation I can come to as to why she didn't touch her own kids as well. She was aware enough to know not to do that to her own kids and that other kid she also watched so she had some sort of premeditated thinking in this.
I’m am sorry for your loss. I hope you took good care of yourself. Women need time to heal. This woman was deeply resentful and unhappy. She kept pretending Everything was fine when clearly it was not. Maybe if she had taken the time to grieve and heal this could have been avoided. I’m not saying what she did was right. It was horrific. I’m only saying if you walk around hiding how you feel, never dealing with your problems they can burst out in the worst way imaginable.
Wow! Excellent cross from the prosecutor!! So sad that Hannah suffered from all of this mess!! Horrible to take out your adult frustrations on a child!!
am I the only person who has a problem with this minuet lie of her being 110 pounds and soon thereafter admittedly lied about her height too on her liscence "make her feel better about herself?!?!
Like I know it seems really redundant but it's those little things that put together paint a picture of her character.
Habitual lying narcissist comes to mind.
Facade...everything was a facade.
@@spiritwalker9903 Absolutely
And the fact she lied about purposely not being married so she could continue to collect welfare….. she denied this even though her BFF testified she told her this
@@cortneyrens take that with a grain of sand. There was no proof presented by the prosecution. That would be easy for the prosecution to get. Not to mention even the judge said to disregard that statement. Problem is the prosecution knew it would still make an impact just like it did on you.
@@cortneyrens who was her bff? I thought that came from her so called mother in law Paula who lied about cleaning her home when clearly in the pics she did not clean her house at all.
Just knowing my personal texts would be read would be deterrent enough for me to not take the stand. How humiliating. Not to mention she had that 18 hour text fight while she was watching about 8 toddlers.
Just knowing my texts and google searches will be looked at is enough to make me never commit a crime!
@@trickortrump3292 lol yes so true; I missed that step lolll
This cross was straight 🔥!!
She said “no but we were walking in the house” ooops she slipped up, it enrages me that she smiles the whole time she’s testifying no matter what the subject is
........ coping mechanism perhaps?
She wants to come across as a sweet person. Many people bought it according to many comments.
This second attorney is EXCELLENT!!! Great Job!! As far as the defendant she is sick! Watching her face how she tries to impress them it’s so weird!
That’s the Prosecution
@@bonniejosavland3227 it is not lol not that I’m proud of it but I live in the same state as the case happened in. It was on the tv daily
@@bonniejosavland3227 the case happened in my own state lol it was all over the news here! It’s not the prosecution haha
@@cfrygirl how do I delete the comment?!
What's very telling is that every time this lawyer has an objection sustained she gets a nasty, smug smirk, like " ha ha " all proud of herself.
You can see the core of her personality is nasty. She can't hide it....her smile is actually creepy
Listening to her txt msg's again tells you EXACTLY who she was and what she was like.
Her and t.j.were fighting so much,maybe she was so upset she took her anger out on the child
i dont see that, the child fell out within minutes of being dropped off. very odd. and the fact that no other child ever had any signs of any type of abuse. usually people who do this will have signs with other kids as well. Im not voting either way but it seems odd tht the kid went down so fast. her arguing with her husband is neither here nor there
Jennifer S. I agree. I know her father should have been looked into further. It sounds like Hannah had a hard life at home. I keep going back and forth thinking that Hannah’s fate had to do with a combo of Lindsay and Hannah’s father. Either way, RIP sweet Hannah.
I completely agree.. Misdirected rage.. My ex would beat our dog when i went to work because we would argue in the morning.. Alot.. I never thought he could break a animals ribs...he also killed her puppies because i put a restraing order on hom and he found out before they served him. My mother is a psychiatrist and she said these people will beat up the weak because they are frustrated and have built up explosive rage. How sickening... That poor baby girl.. I wish we could euthanize her
@@nthedeepblue3521 OMG, Im so so sorry you had to endure and witness that. the poor dog! I hope you were able to rescue her, get her away from him. anyone that can do that to an innocent animal has major issues. Its good that you got away when you did. you could've very well been his next beating victim or dead victim. My uncle killed his childrens puppies IN FRONT of them! Also, my grandfather bought us grandkids bunnies for Easter. a few weeks later their bunnies "disappeared", he killed them and ate them for supper, and told the kids while they were eating!! Let me add, eating fried rabbit was normal when we were kids so eating rabbit wasnt disgusting. But the impact of knowing your dad killed your pet and now your eating it is very much horrific mental abuse. When I listen to the stories my cousins tell me they went thru I just cant imagine how any of them turned out ok. they deal with alot of nightmares
@@jennifers.3818 I got away because it would have been my children next
Ohhhhh she almost had me there 😂...i was thisclose to feel that she didn't, until the prosecutor put the squeeze on her, and started reading texts of the real Lindsey.. And her conniving smile.. yeah she going 👇..
Same!
It was great to see the smirk wiped off this fake, unfeeling creature's face when she got her prison sentence. Here's hoping it's been kept off her face by her fellow inmates!
So why did you think Leslie was 😇
@@Moonglow23 isn’t that just crazy that there are so many ppl who thought she was innocent, even after hearing Hanna would’ve immediately fell unconscious after that injury. Or even the fact Hanna didn’t want her dad to leave and was trying her best to get him not to leave her by getting extra kisses from him. I would like to think Hanna knew she was leaving that day and in a way this was her way of showing her dad how much she loved him. I feel like a lot of ppl think bc dads house was so dirty that he had to be a horrible person and was the one to beat his kid. If ppl only realized how many ppl actually have unkept homes. I use to do house cleaning for some very wealthy individuals and let me tell you from the oustside you would think my god I could just imagine how beautiful the inside is, ha! That’s a fricking joke! These ppl lived in some of the worst houses. There were plenty of them who were hoarders newspapers stacked to the sealing, magazines, and books stacked up, open empty cans of food everywhere, where they wanted me to clean” just to dust around everything, I wasn’t to move anything. And they paid me good for no work at all.
Im so glad my 4 year old son says whatever comes to his mind. Like he does Not bite his tongue at all. So if soneone does something to him. Just know hes snitching period!
Irish Queen 👑 Amen to that! My 3 almost 4 year old daughter is the same way.
Yeah my grandaughter will so snitch
I've seen you somewhere else, maybe Susan Bahns, I'll remember your handle clear as day! Plus, I think you and I have shared a stance or two! I ALWSYS pay attention to the names, it's weird, lol 💀😁🍀💞💫
Thats the only way. Teach them to tell.
@@carmenmorton8122 I wonder if anyone spoke to Lindsay’s oldest daughter? She supposedly was there when Hannah collapsed. She could probably tell if something traumatic happened.
Am I hearing this correctly....she actually thought it was ok to slap, shake, and hit a child with a closed fist?! WTH!!
No. Her friend thought that! She did not say once that she ever actually hit Hannah.
Don't forget it's ok to "upper cut" a child. too! Poor little girl.
@@nevakendrick1164 She admitted it during this cross examination and during the police interviews.
Guess you missed the interrogation video with the police where she ADMITS to punching the child in the face AND shaking her that morning? Feel sorry for your kids, if you have any. 🥴
@@nevakendrick1164 yes.. she actually did say she had done those things . in the interrogations and on the stand. please don't say you think this child murderer is innocent. smh
That was some Legaly Blonde cross examination!
I actually got this vibe a little while she was going at her 😅
My mum always told me someone that lies needs to be really good at remembering the lies they tell because they get caught out this is what’s happening here . No justification for killing a child and that’s what’s she did 😢
Woh woh woh!!! Oh my GOSH! I just flipped my decision! So sad!
What was your original and then flipped decision?
Her affect is off, she’s on the stand & acting like a giddy teenager. Murder or accident it’s a serious topic & her demeanour throughout is so inappropriate. Near the end finally, it’s getting serious🤬 Well done Madam Prosecutor, lured her in then “snap”.
She cries when her friends get up and try to cover for her. The tears for Hannah didnt appear... she murdered that baby.
And she is 36 years old
I think she was trying to act sweet, childlike and innocent
Wowwww she is openly admitting to lying to detectives multiple times during her interviews with them! The last 10 mins were pretty pivotal.
she thought she could admit to all of that and just walk away like it never happened without consequence. wow. she is the delusional one not her fricking husband
She’s not married to him, they pretended to get married but it wasn’t legal!
She smiles and talks so sweet 🙄 we all know the type people. As soon as you turn your back they are abusing elders and babies.
Tonya Cach Right! Referred to herself as a “goody two shoes” 🙄
Lol
Aha...fighting with her drinking husband, they both work for their parents, she couldn't take out her anger on her own kids, so she killed someone else's child....🤬🤬🤬
Okay, at first I really thought she didn't do it. But NOW, I really think I was wrong. She is a GREAT LIAR..... WHOA! God will want answers someday, she will have to be honest at some point, she may as well do it now and beg for pity on her soul, ask for forgiveness from God and poor baby Hanna's family. 😪👼
The district attorney got to her by rambling questions rapid fire at the defendant and shouting she broke her great job !!! She was tired from answering all questions all day long that just cost her murder charges !
The prosecutor slammed dunked this case! It was beautiful! This woman should never get out of prison!!!
I think it's funny the defense can't even handle not even a quarter of payback to what they have been dishing this entire trial. They are over there like "objection!" "Wahhh" 🍼"they are mean" 😭 🙄😂😂😂
Yesss!!!!! I was thinking the same thing.
They tried it! But prosecution was awesome
@@renayadams7470 I wanted to drive to Ohio and high five this badass prosecution attorney. She was the bomb. That whole line of just like any husband and wife would, oh wait had a wedding but didn't get married couple would. 🤣🤣🤣
Lindsay provided the motive herself. She first lied when asked if she feared Jason moving in the neighborhood would result in him dumping his kids on her. Then bam, prosecutor produced her text to a friend saying just that! That was the moment I switched sides. Lindsey’s experience is a prime example why we should listen to our gut and just say no! Especially when we have judgments and bad feelings towards someone.
She also retracted her initial statement. She said she punched, pinched, squeezed and shook Hannah and then claimed it never happened. Lindsay is a liar and a child abuser
@@deeliciousgrapes Absolutely agree. Had she not spoken to the detectives, she'd probably be free today. And honestly, that's terrifying.
And the same happened when she was asked about her miscarriage .. she said her husband was supportive & compassionate and then boom prosecutor pulls out a post or text she wrote which stated the very opposite. And that's when the face of this lying defendant screams louder than any words ever could.Gotcha b!tch !! Brava to the prosecution ..
@@tencoconuts679 do they go over those texts in this video here?
@@PlAiNJaNe521 I wish I remembered so I could answer you but.. if that's what I wrote.. then yes, I'm sure they do..
Defense is getting some of their own medicine.
Excellent prosecutor in my view.
Excellent
Why on earth did her attorneys let her take the stand? With all those damaging texts, what was she thinking?
Great prosecutor attorney
Both. Defence attorney was awful.
She has been caught in so many simple lies.
It's obvious that Lindsay is struggling with her lawyer's instructions to say yes or yes mam instead of ya, to smile when answering, and not to answer like a sarcastic child. Losing battle.
.... She didn't only lose the battle. She lost the entire WAR 😭
Her: No that's not my assumption. That's just what I thought 🤔
All the eye rolling and faces of disapproval didn’t do her any favors!
I bet the defense doesn’t ever complain about them not looking at ALL the phone records again 😂
Exactly
I would of have to have said "look what we found when we looked in your boxes of 35,456 pages,, enough evidence to hang your client LOL
The 1st thing that raises concerns is when she googled somthing hours before the bike incident.
How do you push your hands back and fall on your chest? Push your hands back to where???
The defendant was doing okay and then gave up ! She said screw it
Isn’t it something how respectful the prosecuting attorneys are to the defendant, unlike the defense bullies!!
She snuck that shaking her to unconsciousness good shot
I was extremely skeptical until she admitted that it was her belief that it was okay to hit her with closed hand, squeeze her and shake her. WOW.
She took her anger out on Hannah...so very sad
Amanda Williams exactly what I’m thinking.
yes amanda.
poor baby girl.
Why did let her testify smh
mimi lynn56 Dumbest idea ever!!!
So she “had” to calculate her kids’ ages and took a whole minute to do so, but knew right off the bat that the other kid was “a week apart” from her own kids. 🤣🤣🤣🤣can’t make this up
I see an appeal for ineffective counsel in the future. Hard to believe defense counsel didn't read these texts.
Lmao. She tried, her appeal went horribly for her. 😂 It was laughable.
Are you serious? Her counselor used every tactic at her disposal to get around the fact that she confessed, the Medical experts testimony that this was a catastrophic head injury that the little girl would NOT have been walking around and behaving normally after and in fact would be out immediately- she even accused the victim’s father VERY vociferously. She just couldn’t get passed the overwhelming evidence.
The fact she never checked the child Hannah after falling in the “gravel” was extremely telling and disturbing it exposed so much of your guilt for me
I don't believe she ever really fell in the gravel.
The way she keeps smiling on the stand
RIP little Hannah. You met the worst person in your short life.xxxx
OMG, she just buried herself at the end. She answers, Yes, to being OK to hitting, squeezing, slapping etc. 😳. 😡. If the jury don't find her guilty, I'm giving up watching trials. 😪
This woman is delusional to even take the stand. She is is an abusive twisted idiot.
Found guilty on all counts! Waiting on sentencing
Did they ask Jason if he got Hannah or how he disciplined her. I couldn’t finish watching his testimony. To me he was too calm for someone who’s child was murdered I don’t believe he’s innocent or father of the year. I saw a lot of red flags with him. I felt Lindsay actually showed more of a range of emotion including deep sadness for Hannah’s passing. Not saying I think she’s innocent just an observation. She doesn’t seem evil to me.
This is why people shouldn’t never put their hands on each other accidents can happen. I don’t think anyone meant to really hurt Hannah they live in a culture of spanking and risk comes with that.
Omg she's done take her off the stove. How dare her think it was ok to hurt this little girl. RIP Hanna💋🌹💕
Great testimony
What a vile human being. So nonchalant. Bet she has no friends. Prison for her. She deserves nothing.
My god how dare she she's not hannahs mother this made my blood boil that poor little baby girl heartbreaking 💔💔
Just no. I don’t believe anyone changes their entire story so easily just to please the police interrogators. Perhaps had she been thrown in a dungeon for years or tortured or something, but they barely even had her sweating.
Guilty.
$35 for 12 hours..?? That's undercharging
That’s exactly the comment I just left! $35 for watching a toddler for TWELVE hours?! That’s crazy!
She was overworked, overwhelmed, and underpaid. Plus her husband didn’t pay attention to her
Omg....excellent cross!
She did it
I wonder if the “husband” is still supporting her...Financially? Emotionally? In any way?
Tinafish123 Me too..I also been wondering if she was incarcerated during the trial or if she made bail ,since her bf 's family has money...?
Tinafish123 I bet TJ is really glad his uncle “forgot” to get the marriage license now!
TJ....find a good woman to help to raise those girls and start fresh. Cut ties with the evil woman. Her daughters can look her up when they are 18yrs if they want to then.
They got married after her conviction.
Probably not bc she’s on Welfare 😳
@@somerking7040 she was out for a year before the trial!
What just happened here!!! Did lindsay not understand the prosecutor was implying she believed she could do all these physical things so DID do them. I think this defendant gets easily flustered and then doesn't fully comprehend the question or its implications so just starts agreeing with everything.
She did seem very unaware of what she admitted to, under cross examination. Her matter of fact demeanor was odd...how could she think those abusive acts against a child, were in ANYONE'S eyes, ok?
She simpers and agrees with adults who confront her, because all her rage and hate is reserved for defenceless little children.
Evil girl bet you weren’t this sweet when you killed Hannah
Lol , what you text can and will be used against you.😂🤣😂
I love watching professional lawyers destroy liars
what on earth can anyone slap someone across their face? No one else, even their parents. How could it happen to just "babysitter" doing that physical behavior? omg..