True but some of the designs for Transformers with like Sidewipe, Hound, Crosshairs, Drift, Arcee & the other motorcycle girls were pretty decent imo. Along with some decent action scenes imo to.
>Sadly that the bayverse is discontinued Yeah it's sad. Bayverse was good and the 2007 to 2011 was the true live action transformers film. I hope for one last bayverse movie where a lot of autobots and decepticons come back and one last battle and sam coming back. I just want to see my boy sideswipe and ratchet back. I really hope one more bayverse movie gets made by a different director and Micheal Bay just use the explosions
This might take a little but I’ve always had my own take on quintessa. My fan theory is that she was one of the quintessons. And long ago after the cybertronians rebelled against her species she split from the others and eventually came across the husk of unicron. She ended up touching his almost lifeless spark and unicron ended up corrupting her to turn into one of his followers. Unicorn wanted to use her to revive himself so he can take revenge on cybertron/ primus/ the primes. Unicron guided quintessa to create the staff and she also ended up befriending the guardian knights towards the end of the war. Once the war on cybertron was close to over the knights found out her true motives and decided to take it from her but not before banishing her and defeating her. This is why she is referred to as the great deceiver. But knowing she was not dead they knew that she would one day come back for the staff. After the events of dotm she arrived to cybertron seeing it on all destroyed but seeing it still had life. She knew she could still use cybertron to awaken unicron. When megatron arrives she lies to him and uses him for her own biding. So basically the prophecy was incorrect. Unicorns horns weren’t rising to fend off the mad goddess quintessa, they were rising welcoming her as she could help him rise again. She was never a prime, she used this to gain the trust and respect from the knights, she was the great deceiver. The rest is history.
One thing I'd like to sorta say about your theory, the fallen says "the last prime is dead" which can be interpreted to say "The last prime that could get in our way is dead. Sentinel and Quintessa are both aligned with the decepticons in terms of what they want to do with the earth. So Optimus is the only one who would try and stop them.
I like to think of Quintessa as the former prosecutor of the Quintessons. A well admired figure to the Quintessons. However she was so beloved to most of the Quintessons that the judges tried to kill her. Surviving she and her followers swore revenge and created the iacon knights who also betrayed her. Now I like to characterize the Quintessons as businessman like most incarnations. Not as creators. So they wanted to harness dark energon as a means for making a profit. Quintessa knew this so she sought to kill unicron herself creating the Knights of Iacon but again they betrayed her. So eventually she found galvatron and reverted him back to megatron then the last knight happened.
I wouldn't say she never lied. I believe she was lying about being the creator of the Cybertronians and here are my reasons to support this. 1. Here design doesn't match the aliens seen in the opening of AOE. The aliens were shown to be biomechanical and Quintessa is a purely mechanical being. Unless some form of evolution occurred, I doubt the aliens in AOE and Quintessa are the same individual. 2. Quintessa's goals literally contradict what AOE established about the Creators
The power of friendship brought optimus back from mind control so then you could imagine barricade using the power of friendship to bring megatron back
Fact about Prime's sword: during forest battle he throws one sword on grindor and did not retrieve that's why he used hand held in DOTM and the second one was disintegrated by galvatron this goes unlike the theory of how optimus got his shield.
I have a post Dark of the Moon theory regarding why people hated the Autobots. I know that's a minor detail, but I think there's more than what we saw. Here's my theory: In Dark of the Moon, Dillan's group was involved with the Decepticons in organizing the pillars and during the Chicago war, Dillan was the only one out of his group to try to assist the 'Cons on bringing Cybertron closer to Earth 'till he was killed by Sam with the pillar destroyed. So I guess that after the war, Dillans group decided to escape without being seen and lied to the entire public about the Autobots. This might be unlikely, but if it wasn't for their experience with having the Decepticons Soundwave and Laserbeak as Dillan's clients, along with the possible fact that those 2 lied to him and his group about the Autobots, which explains why Dillan's group were helping the Decepticons out before the Chicago war, this possibility would be nonexistent.
I think that the aliens were the original creators, and created the first primes with their own image (that's why they had the samehand shape with the fallen) but after a while they changed themselves to become machines (like quintessa), we already saw that half of the alien's arm was robotic, so it may be just a phase to becoming a machine
I definitely believe she was lying because there are parts of her character that contradict what AOE estbalished. 1. From what glimpses we could gather, the aliens shown in the opening of AOE were organic or biomechanical based on the hand. Quintessa, on the other hand, appears to be purely mechanical. Unless the creators evolved some new form of armor, no one never points out how Quintessa appears to be a Cybertronian herself. It's likely the aliens and Quintessa are two different characters. Perhaps Quintessa was manipulated into working for the aliens. 2. Her goals completely retcon what AOE said. Lockdown implied that the creators wanted to kill all Transformers and start from scratch. Here, Quintessa wants to revive Cybertron using Unicron's energy. This doesn't make sense in regards to Quintessa being a creator. Why would they go out of their way to send Lockdown to kill all Transformers only to then make their goals be reviving Cybertron? That right there just tells me that Quintessa was gaslighting Optimus.
I think galvitrons still out there and the new Megatron is not the Megatron from 12 and3 and that the new Megatron killed galitron and that is why you don't see Galvatron anymore
I will give you my simple theory Galvatron goes to Quintessa she then transfers his consciousness into a new body and getting his Megatron name back and the Galvatron body becomes an empty shell so Quintessa creates the Nemesis Prime personality and tests it on Optimus after it’s done it’s work it loads into a computer or something and she loads it into the Galvatron body and with the Transformium she then has her so called perfect creation a black and purple Optimus Prime
I'm gonna have to disagree with Quintessa being a creator and the fleshy hand creature not being, we can clearly tell that she is made of the same stuff all other cybertronians are, so she is also built. Her rule over the guardian knights is around the same time as King Arthur in the 6th century. Those fleshy beings who dropped the seeds, I'm gonna say that those are the definite actual creators of the majority of cybertronians because we know for a fact that they existed far longer of a time period before Quintessa. As they were operating around 66 million years ago while we only know that Quintessa operated 1500 years ago. It is more likely that the flesh creatures built cybertronians than it is for Quintessa as we have no confirmation on how long she has been working just that it goes are far back as King Arthur, but we know for a fact that those flesh creatures worked millions upon millions of years before Quintessa Quintessas with s as in multiple are a subrace of cybertronians made by one of the 13/7 primes give powers by the primes My theory is that Quintessa the one in TLK killed the rest of her subrace so she could be the only one and made the guardian knights who then rebelled around the 5th century making their way to earth and were discovered in the 6th century by Merlin. We should also note that most of anything if not everything Quintessa says could be completely false, While what she is doing is true, using the staff to kill Unicron and furth rebuild Cybertron, The knights called her the great deceiver, it is reasonable to assume that she did in fact NOT make Optimus, as Optimus was not always a prime He was a normal librarian turned prime during the war. And if the staff is her only power of creation, how does she make Infernicus? It is reasonable to assume that it was 1- A Lie 2- infernicus was made at the same time as the knights, or 3 the staff increases her ability instead of being her ability. I would say that it's opinion 3. She uses the staff to make 13 knights, loses it makes 5 insecticon to replace the knights. The Staff only increased the amount she could make (5 and 13) and how strong they are, as the 13 Knights are most definitely stronger than the Instecticons. Prime was gonna be killed by the knights, but Prime was able to easily kill the insecticons. So the story is The One Makes Primus living Good and Unicron Living Evil. The two fight for eternity, Primus makes the 13 Primes using the Cube or the 7 primes if you want to go off of ROFT lore personally I say 13. The 13 defeat Unicron and he eventually goes on to become Earth. The 13 under the guidance of Primus commission the Creators, a race of aliens with advanced technology similar to the 13. While the creators work on making the transformium, the Primes work on getting the Energon. The primes do this for millions of years intel 16 or 17 thousand BC where the primes have the falling out. But before this event one of the 13 named Quintus Primes, an alchemist made the subrace of cybertronians called Quintessas, named after him. Quintessas were taught all of cybertronian history, science, and alchemy they were made and taught for the purpose of continuing the construction of cybertronians. One Quintessa was power-hungry, killed her race, and made the guardian knights for the purpose of protecting her, but they rebelled in the 5th century and made their way to earth where they are discovered by merlin in the 6th century. In response, She makes infernicus to protect her instead. It is also important to note that in the 11th century 500 years later, Megatron had made his way to earth where he crashed landed on earth, and frozen in the artic for him to be discovered in the 19th century by Witwicky. I have another reason as for why Optimus wasn't created by Quintessa, but it's sorta outlandish and I can't find where I saw this so I don't think anyone would believe me.
After watching this video, I think the Allspark created Quintessa and the other Quintessons and then they harnessed the Allspark's power into weapons such as her staff to create Transformers and stuff. Then the organic "alien hand thing" from AoE were an enslaved race by the Quintessons to do their hard work. What also ties nicely into these organic aliens being their slaves is the steeljaws on Lockdown's ship. We see when Bumblebee shoots them apart that underneath their armour they are organic. I think they are another species from the same planet as the "hand things" that were also enslaved. PS, sorry this comment is way too long.
I had a theory that she might have been created by Liege Maximo, who was the Prime of Lies. And she wanted to destroy Unicron once and for all and bring in a new era for Cybertron by destroying Unicron and bringing Cybertron back to life. But this theory seems plausible. Awesome video as always dude.
I also took a pinch of salt to her in the movie To me, the Quintessons we're organic life form as we see in Age of Extinction but would slowly use the transformers elemental metals to become cyborgs, and I can't help but think that they built Quintessa to tun r Optimus into becoming Lockdowns replacement and giving her the power to make new soldiers and anything they would need so she is like a living version of a cube. Plus I also think that the cube we see in the first film was a prototype for a line of Cubes that would be sold to different alien races, to wipe them out as the cube would begin to make transformers that would come online and start attacking everything they see like how we see the Xbox and the vending machine, as Lockdown says "species mixing with species the creators don't like it" and once a planet was purged of life the creators would turn the transformers into slaves.
Hey trans in 6 months or a year or however long it takes, you should make a full timeline of events for bayformers. It doesn't matter how long it is because ill watch it regardless
In my eyes because how much this film pulled from the prime's story i believe that Quintessa is one of the 13 who created the Quitessons but after leaving the Quintessons tricked some transformers into thinking they were the creators and I believe the seven primes from Revenge of the fallen can not sense the original 13 i also believe that movie fallen is not Megatronous
Hey Trans, you should do a video on which Transformers you think are the strongest, combiners included. I know RBG made a vid on it, but it would still be cool to see your opinion.
@Zap Genesis in my comic I made Transformers resurrection Unicron Quintessa transforms into a purple Cybertronian jet and flies to earth to visit Megatron who she forms a “relationship” after resurrecting him.
Wait if Quintessa really was a Prime, she should have been among the Primes creating the barrier around the Matrix of Leadership, but she didn’t. So that kinda fell apart
My assumption is that she is one of the original primes. She used her abilities to create to alien creatures from the start of 4. That's also why the hand looks the way it does, it's a fleshy version of a prime's hand because that's something that seems normal to her, since her brothers all locked like that. They then cyber formed planets and quintessa then used the resources from that to create the guardian knights. It's also possible that she was simply hiding from megatronus because she didn't want to go against him herself. She may not have even planned to do what she did in t until after 4 when Cybertron got damaged mid teleportation.
My theory is that quintessa was one of those beings in age of Extinction just she fell out of the ship and got terraformed into metal like the rest of the landscape on the planet but survived somehow.
@@shaunessyalmeida2212 that's not the reason dumbass people think she isn't a creator because 2007 the cube created cybertron and gave transformers life and in the comics its always said the cube is life and I think nobody cares if she is a female your just talking shit you sound like you apart of the LGBTQ because you talk about things you don't know
The best thing about you trans is that you upload in times of need like I was like I hope he uploads today and you did and the last time you uploaded was like month after u want to see in the future you doing uploads every 3 weeks like after 3 weeks another upload and btw keep up the good content I love how you always heart other people's comments and that you are super funny at making vids like that one time you said sentinel prick that was funny
Maybe I could complement this with a little theory of my own. Spoilers for Transformers Earthrise! In Earthrise, we meet a G1 inspired Quintesson, Deseeus, that, after arguing with its many faces, was fractured when Wrath tore off the other 4 faces. Going mad as a single entity. What if Quintessa was like Wrath? One of 5 faces inhabiting a full Quintesson until breaking free, or being severed, to act on her own agenda. Being only a fraction of what we see in the concept art.
Awesome theory video on Quintessa. When she said that she was the 'Prime of life', I believed her until the Autobot Knights of Cybertron came in and informed us that Quintessa is the great deceiver. Otherwise, great video, man. Keep up the good work.
Three more videos to look for?? :0 EPICCCCC also you should make a Discord server Also, i think Quintessa would not have the rank of prime. It is said that Primus created the Primes to defeat Unicron (idk about this in the bayverse, but its confirmed for the transformers prime timeline) and it is also said Quintus Prime is the creator of the Quintessons. If Quintus Prime indeed exists in the bayverse, Quintessa would probably have been the first Quintesson and Quintus Prime's second in command. Being the youngest of the Primes, Optimus was probably unaware of Unicron becoming the earth, while Primus and the remaining original Primes kept tabs on Unicron, who was in stasis at the time.
@@Theorymus don't try too hard remember these Bayformers movies aren't known to make any sense, the script for these movies are just "BOOM", underage girls, and chachas.
In the comics, if I remember right, the Allspark was actually Cybertron's spark, and the creative force of the Transformers..........Which makes sense, to me, seeing as Cybertron is Primus, even in The Last Knight, and Primus is their creator in many continuities.....Of course, Megatron wanted that power for himself, so they were forced to launch it into space, effectively killing Cybertron.........
Is "who sent lockdown to earth" the Lockdowns history with autobots video? Love your stuff, Trans...... You are the best and answered questions i didnt even know. Love yoi
In the comix Cybertron is actually a being called Prima his brother was unicorn and he created the 13 Knight's to take him down and he went into deep sleep and debre started to form around him so prima went to sleep knowing if he woke up unicorn would awake
Remember that the Primes in this continuity are also a lineage, that's why both Optimus and Sentinel can have the Prime surname, so yeah, Quintessa can be a Prime.
@@Theorymus trans I have a question that's ben bugging me all day. I want to create transformers content but I don't have any ideas. How do you get your ideas and do you use scripts
Well I use Scripts to structure my ideas I mean content comes from the bay verse like plot holes take example barricade where was he during Revenge of the Fallen and why does he appear in Dark of the Moon then try to make a logical explanation out of it or a story
Dude I love Transformers because there is so much interesting stuff going on but nothing is explained well. Your channel makes this series so much better
Bayverse movies: has confusing lore and plotholes
Trans theroys: "fine I will do it myself"
Indeed
Aligned: Has 2 contradicting prequels.
Emperor Kumquat: Fine, i'll do it myself.
True but some of the designs for Transformers with like Sidewipe, Hound, Crosshairs, Drift, Arcee & the other motorcycle girls were pretty decent imo. Along with some decent action scenes imo to.
The Bayverse lore was confusing but I managed to piece it together
Bayformers has confusing lore and plotholes
Trans theorist:fine I'll do it my self just wait 2 and probably 9 years
I think Quintessa nominated herself "Prime of Life", being that she was the one trying to rebuild Cybertron and bring life back to it.
“Now the bayverse transformers has been discontinued”
Me: *sad giant robot noises*
as shockwave would say *angry cybertronian screaming*
not true, release date is just pushed to 2022
@@basedpota atleast its another transformers movie bro
Me: just cryies.
>Sadly that the bayverse is discontinued
Yeah it's sad. Bayverse was good and the 2007 to 2011 was the true live action transformers film. I hope for one last bayverse movie where a lot of autobots and decepticons come back and one last battle and sam coming back. I just want to see my boy sideswipe and ratchet back. I really hope one more bayverse movie gets made by a different director and Micheal Bay just use the explosions
There is going to be another movie tho an Optimus prime solo movie? In 2022
Sadly ratchet isnt coming back but they could use red alert for a replacement:)
@@Blobsketch that would be frenzy old friend
@Infinity Multiverse Studios fuck the knight verse u know how they treated peter cullen???
@@basedpota ah
This might take a little but I’ve always had my own take on quintessa. My fan theory is that she was one of the quintessons. And long ago after the cybertronians rebelled against her species she split from the others and eventually came across the husk of unicron. She ended up touching his almost lifeless spark and unicron ended up corrupting her to turn into one of his followers. Unicorn wanted to use her to revive himself so he can take revenge on cybertron/ primus/ the primes.
Unicron guided quintessa to create the staff and she also ended up befriending the guardian knights towards the end of the war. Once the war on cybertron was close to over the knights found out her true motives and decided to take it from her but not before banishing her and defeating her. This is why she is referred to as the great deceiver. But knowing she was not dead they knew that she would one day come back for the staff. After the events of dotm she arrived to cybertron seeing it on all destroyed but seeing it still had life. She knew she could still use cybertron to awaken unicron. When megatron arrives she lies to him and uses him for her own biding.
So basically the prophecy was incorrect. Unicorns horns weren’t rising to fend off the mad goddess quintessa, they were rising welcoming her as she could help him rise again.
She was never a prime, she used this to gain the trust and respect from the knights, she was the great deceiver.
The rest is history.
Hot diggity dog, 10 outta 10
@@Theorymus hey I got a reply😀. Love your channel man, keep up the good work.
Thx man. I enjoyed it
@@Theorymus I agree
That’s a pretty good take on it
Me: *watches this video without headphones*
My family: Why are Transformers trying to kill Unicorns?
Did someone at your house actually say that?
Tell them it’s the start of the new hasbro cinematic universe where Transformers crosses over with My Little Pony.
Cron not corn
@@pancho855 Yes, they did
@@javenmod I know but my family thought it was Unicorn
palpitine x quintessa = unlimited power!!!!!!
UNLIMITED POWEERRRRRR AAAA!!
@@Truly.H1ni POWAH! UNLIMITED...POWAHHH!!!!
Still no match against Obi Wan's high ground.
Well that girl (the staff one) does somwhat looks like Rey in some scenes
What about me " Cough Cough"
One thing I'd like to sorta say about your theory, the fallen says "the last prime is dead" which can be interpreted to say "The last prime that could get in our way is dead. Sentinel and Quintessa are both aligned with the decepticons in terms of what they want to do with the earth. So Optimus is the only one who would try and stop them.
He also said only a prime can defeat me
@@Theorymus true
Megatron: your so weak
Optimus: wining in every single Bayverse movie
Megatron:😭😭😭
@Star Saber in the aligned continuity megatron was winning for most of the time
Hahaha
I like to think of Quintessa as the former prosecutor of the Quintessons. A well admired figure to the Quintessons. However she was so beloved to most of the Quintessons that the judges tried to kill her. Surviving she and her followers swore revenge and created the iacon knights who also betrayed her.
Now I like to characterize the Quintessons as businessman like most incarnations. Not as creators. So they wanted to harness dark energon as a means for making a profit. Quintessa knew this so she sought to kill unicron herself creating the Knights of Iacon but again they betrayed her. So eventually she found galvatron and reverted him back to megatron then the last knight happened.
I love it how quintessa never lied once. She promised megatron a new army and swore to restore cybertron.
It’s less she lie’s out right and more just goes along with to get along. Optimus was look for his creators so she pretended to be his creator.
I wouldn't say she never lied. I believe she was lying about being the creator of the Cybertronians and here are my reasons to support this.
1. Here design doesn't match the aliens seen in the opening of AOE. The aliens were shown to be biomechanical and Quintessa is a purely mechanical being. Unless some form of evolution occurred, I doubt the aliens in AOE and Quintessa are the same individual.
2. Quintessa's goals literally contradict what AOE established about the Creators
The power of friendship brought optimus back from mind control so then you could imagine barricade using the power of friendship to bring megatron back
Friendship is magic
Nah megaton doesn’t think of him as a "friend"
@@mozzy2858 starscream could probably do it 🤷
This means the Primus and Cybertron are different entities if Cybertron was built by the Quintessons.
Primus doesn’t exist in the movies.
Unicron is some ancient being that eats universes
@@basedpota primus is never mentioned and cybertron isn’t even a living entity in this universe
@@basedpota the movies contradict the comics
Though here is the thing who or what created the quintessons
I wonder how the original primes were able to take on unicorn. I would love to see how that fight would’ve looked like.
Fact about Prime's sword: during forest battle he throws one sword on grindor and did not retrieve that's why he used hand held in DOTM and the second one was disintegrated by galvatron this goes unlike the theory of how optimus got his shield.
Do anyone support this theory?
Those anyone support this theory?
@@nirmala8843 I support it
He got the shield when he got his knight sword lol
I have a post Dark of the Moon theory regarding why people hated the Autobots. I know that's a minor detail, but I think there's more than what we saw. Here's my theory:
In Dark of the Moon, Dillan's group was involved with the Decepticons in organizing the pillars and during the Chicago war, Dillan was the only one out of his group to try to assist the 'Cons on bringing Cybertron closer to Earth 'till he was killed by Sam with the pillar destroyed. So I guess that after the war, Dillans group decided to escape without being seen and lied to the entire public about the Autobots. This might be unlikely, but if it wasn't for their experience with having the Decepticons Soundwave and Laserbeak as Dillan's clients, along with the possible fact that those 2 lied to him and his group about the Autobots, which explains why Dillan's group were helping the Decepticons out before the Chicago war, this possibility would be nonexistent.
So basically she's Alice from rotf reincarnated (robot transforming into human)
No because Alice was to weak not like quintessa
@@nottiboppin3451 it's just a joke
Ayy trans liked my comment dang I keep getting liked comments by him that’s good
I think that the aliens were the original creators, and created the first primes with their own image (that's why they had the samehand shape with the fallen) but after a while they changed themselves to become machines (like quintessa), we already saw that half of the alien's arm was robotic, so it may be just a phase to becoming a machine
That is likely and would be a good way of clearing the inconsistency up
I just learned this but she's named after the planet the Quintessons eventually settled on a quote "the small, twisted planet of Quintessa"
Quintessa could have lied about being the Prime of Life because shes the great deceiver, she only said that to Optimus to shut him up
I definitely believe she was lying because there are parts of her character that contradict what AOE estbalished.
1. From what glimpses we could gather, the aliens shown in the opening of AOE were organic or biomechanical based on the hand. Quintessa, on the other hand, appears to be purely mechanical. Unless the creators evolved some new form of armor, no one never points out how Quintessa appears to be a Cybertronian herself. It's likely the aliens and Quintessa are two different characters. Perhaps Quintessa was manipulated into working for the aliens.
2. Her goals completely retcon what AOE said. Lockdown implied that the creators wanted to kill all Transformers and start from scratch. Here, Quintessa wants to revive Cybertron using Unicron's energy. This doesn't make sense in regards to Quintessa being a creator. Why would they go out of their way to send Lockdown to kill all Transformers only to then make their goals be reviving Cybertron? That right there just tells me that Quintessa was gaslighting Optimus.
That actually brings a terrifying possibility. The aliens seen in the opening of AOE are still out there and we may never learn more about them
mee when i see the protoform from ,,Autobot and decepticon protofom misconceptions also me shocked when i see the protoform
I MEGATRON AM COMANDED BY NO ONE
But me😈😈
@DEVLIN WATTERS FAGNAN did i ask?
@@BlooMonkiMan oof
@DEVLIN WATTERS FAGNAN Thats tfp unicron. And cool.
@DEVLIN WATTERS FAGNAN at least we got Predacons Rising
I hope we get one more Bay movie (even if it’s not directed by him) to wrap the story up
I made up my own theory of what she really did to Galvatron and why she created Nemesis Prime
Awesome, the fun thing with the bayverse is that almost anything is correct I just put my own spin on things but yours is just as good
I think galvitrons still out there and the new Megatron is not the Megatron from 12 and3 and that the new Megatron killed galitron and that is why you don't see Galvatron anymore
Spelt Galvatron wrong twice 😂😂😂
I will give you my simple theory
Galvatron goes to Quintessa she then transfers his consciousness into a new body and getting his Megatron name back and the Galvatron body becomes an empty shell so Quintessa creates the Nemesis Prime personality and tests it on Optimus after it’s done it’s work it loads into a computer or something and she loads it into the Galvatron body and with the Transformium she then has her so called perfect creation a black and purple Optimus Prime
@@Lord_Galvatron that's a good one. Why didn't ksi use Sentinel Primes body if they wanted an optimus prime clone in the movie
4:08 I mean I can build a computer and I have no idea how a gpu is made so does that mean I am even more powerful then Quintessa
Probably
I'm gonna have to disagree with Quintessa being a creator and the fleshy hand creature not being, we can clearly tell that she is made of the same stuff all other cybertronians are, so she is also built. Her rule over the guardian knights is around the same time as King Arthur in the 6th century. Those fleshy beings who dropped the seeds, I'm gonna say that those are the definite actual creators of the majority of cybertronians because we know for a fact that they existed far longer of a time period before Quintessa. As they were operating around 66 million years ago while we only know that Quintessa operated 1500 years ago. It is more likely that the flesh creatures built cybertronians than it is for Quintessa as we have no confirmation on how long she has been working just that it goes are far back as King Arthur, but we know for a fact that those flesh creatures worked millions upon millions of years before Quintessa
Quintessas with s as in multiple are a subrace of cybertronians made by one of the 13/7 primes give powers by the primes
My theory is that Quintessa the one in TLK killed the rest of her subrace so she could be the only one and made the guardian knights who then rebelled around the 5th century making their way to earth and were discovered in the 6th century by Merlin.
We should also note that most of anything if not everything Quintessa says could be completely false, While what she is doing is true, using the staff to kill Unicron and furth rebuild Cybertron, The knights called her the great deceiver, it is reasonable to assume that she did in fact NOT make Optimus, as Optimus was not always a prime He was a normal librarian turned prime during the war. And if the staff is her only power of creation, how does she make Infernicus? It is reasonable to assume that it was 1- A Lie 2- infernicus was made at the same time as the knights, or 3 the staff increases her ability instead of being her ability. I would say that it's opinion 3. She uses the staff to make 13 knights, loses it makes 5 insecticon to replace the knights. The Staff only increased the amount she could make (5 and 13) and how strong they are, as the 13 Knights are most definitely stronger than the Instecticons. Prime was gonna be killed by the knights, but Prime was able to easily kill the insecticons.
So the story is The One Makes Primus living Good and Unicron Living Evil. The two fight for eternity, Primus makes the 13 Primes using the Cube or the 7 primes if you want to go off of ROFT lore personally I say 13. The 13 defeat Unicron and he eventually goes on to become Earth. The 13 under the guidance of Primus commission the Creators, a race of aliens with advanced technology similar to the 13. While the creators work on making the transformium, the Primes work on getting the Energon. The primes do this for millions of years intel 16 or 17 thousand BC where the primes have the falling out. But before this event one of the 13 named Quintus Primes, an alchemist made the subrace of cybertronians called Quintessas, named after him. Quintessas were taught all of cybertronian history, science, and alchemy they were made and taught for the purpose of continuing the construction of cybertronians. One Quintessa was power-hungry, killed her race, and made the guardian knights for the purpose of protecting her, but they rebelled in the 5th century and made their way to earth where they are discovered by merlin in the 6th century. In response, She makes infernicus to protect her instead. It is also important to note that in the 11th century 500 years later, Megatron had made his way to earth where he crashed landed on earth, and frozen in the artic for him to be discovered in the 19th century by Witwicky.
I have another reason as for why Optimus wasn't created by Quintessa, but it's sorta outlandish and I can't find where I saw this so I don't think anyone would believe me.
I think your right
wow this is very convincing
Interesting theory and I like it
When a fan has a way better explanation than the actual movie writers
I ain't reading allat
Now that you mention about the staff, I could've sworn I saw a glowing blue cube inside the staff when it was activated
After watching this video, I think the Allspark created Quintessa and the other Quintessons and then they harnessed the Allspark's power into weapons such as her staff to create Transformers and stuff. Then the organic "alien hand thing" from AoE were an enslaved race by the Quintessons to do their hard work. What also ties nicely into these organic aliens being their slaves is the steeljaws on Lockdown's ship. We see when Bumblebee shoots them apart that underneath their armour they are organic. I think they are another species from the same planet as the "hand things" that were also enslaved.
PS, sorry this comment is way too long.
This is also very possible
Prime:Leave planet earth alone cause im coming for you
Quintessa: *n O e*
I had a theory that she might have been created by Liege Maximo, who was the Prime of Lies. And she wanted to destroy Unicron once and for all and bring in a new era for Cybertron by destroying Unicron and bringing Cybertron back to life. But this theory seems plausible. Awesome video as always dude.
Thx man, she doesnt have a concrete backstory so this works as well
I also took a pinch of salt to her in the movie
To me, the Quintessons we're organic life form as we see in Age of Extinction but would slowly use the transformers elemental metals to become cyborgs, and I can't help but think that they built Quintessa to tun r Optimus into becoming Lockdowns replacement and giving her the power to make new soldiers and anything they would need so she is like a living version of a cube.
Plus I also think that the cube we see in the first film was a prototype for a line of Cubes that would be sold to different alien races, to wipe them out as the cube would begin to make transformers that would come online and start attacking everything they see like how we see the Xbox and the vending machine, as Lockdown says "species mixing with species the creators don't like it" and once a planet was purged of life the creators would turn the transformers into slaves.
1:50 "Being able to shoot lightning like Palpatine."
Hey trans in 6 months or a year or however long it takes, you should make a full timeline of events for bayformers. It doesn't matter how long it is because ill watch it regardless
Quintessa the creators of armies a lot
I can't believe you made it it's like you're nuking the rocket into a alien Mothership it's so beautiful 🤯
I got that avengers reference
It doesn't matter, Trans Theories posted another video, early crew, present! 👀
Hell yea
early crew? ok im calling FBI department.
Connection about her shooting out later in life Emperor Palpa teen and I really like that
I believe she is the creater (one of then) because she can shape-shift so she must have looked like the rest of them.
In my eyes because how much this film pulled from the prime's story i believe that Quintessa is one of the 13 who created the Quitessons but after leaving the Quintessons tricked some transformers into thinking they were the creators and I believe the seven primes from Revenge of the fallen can not sense the original 13 i also believe that movie fallen is not Megatronous
bro 3 years ago almost 4 years the bayverse films ended and ur still here making theories, what a legend
That's my job 👍
Could the Drillers be created by her? She did seen to have a thing for Beastformers.
Quintessa is probably the one who made megatron start the war
This makes a lot of sense
What would happen if trans directed a tf movie
It would be focused on the transformers
I agree
Logic
@@Theorymus They should have focused it on the transformers or the movies would be called Humans.
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Hey Trans, you should do a video on which Transformers you think are the strongest, combiners included. I know RBG made a vid on it, but it would still be cool to see your opinion.
Quintessa is underrated
Prob
@@basedpota perhaps I mean ya kinda
@Zap Genesis in my comic I made Transformers resurrection Unicron Quintessa transforms into a purple Cybertronian jet and flies to earth to visit Megatron who she forms a “relationship” after resurrecting him.
@@DylanZombie Thats an interesting story
@Zap Genesis She kisses him on the face giving him the red streak
Wait if Quintessa really was a Prime, she should have been among the Primes creating the barrier around the Matrix of Leadership, but she didn’t. So that kinda fell apart
I headcannon the idea of the first 3 transformers movies as a part of their own timeline with AOE and TLK being another timeline 😂
Amazing Ive been watching this for a while now and its amazing keep up the amazing work king of Transformers
Thx man
i want that with protoform i think how they look before heading to earth
She need to be in more transformers content like cartoons, comics, etc...
IT'S A PLANET!!!!
YES
My assumption is that she is one of the original primes. She used her abilities to create to alien creatures from the start of 4. That's also why the hand looks the way it does, it's a fleshy version of a prime's hand because that's something that seems normal to her, since her brothers all locked like that. They then cyber formed planets and quintessa then used the resources from that to create the guardian knights. It's also possible that she was simply hiding from megatronus because she didn't want to go against him herself. She may not have even planned to do what she did in t until after 4 when Cybertron got damaged mid teleportation.
Nice! I’m watching it right now!
Am I the first to watch it?
Bayformers: My continuity is bullcrap
TransTheories: If Film Theory won’t make these movies make sense, Then I will
My theory is that quintessa was one of those beings in age of Extinction just she fell out of the ship and got terraformed into metal like the rest of the landscape on the planet but survived somehow.
WTF 🧐
@@ernie9538what a dumb theory? Am I right or am I right? Ehh??? Yes. 😊.
A return of a king of transformers theories
Of course that Quintessa send Lockdown 2 earth 2 find Optimus 4 her I mean who else.
Yes, Lockdown said, "We all work for someone"
They showed how the alien race created transformium using the seeds
Well ... it is possible. I personally believe it was her doings.
I wonder how the Sharkticons and Allicons would of been in the Last Knight. Just replace them with Infernocus.
Also I love you’re vids
That was an excellent video trans theoies. Looking forward to the next 3 videos.
Why are some people disagreeing that Quintessa, is not the Prime of Life?
Cuz they're dumb. Another thing is that they're upset that the creators was actually a female creator with God-like abilities.
Well quintessa isn’t solus prime since if she was prime would have recognized her because of the matrix
@@shaunessyalmeida2212 that's not the reason dumbass people think she isn't a creator because 2007 the cube created cybertron and gave transformers life and in the comics its always said the cube is life and I think nobody cares if she is a female your just talking shit you sound like you apart of the LGBTQ because you talk about things you don't know
@@kirby6897 is Solus Prime even apart of the Bayverse?
@@ryanfarrelly4647 I don’t think so, but it is possible
what if the allspark was a part of primus's spark that he provided to the creators to store and transport energon to do their job of creating
Finally got my first masterpiece movie character
Awesome
Cool
Worth the wait
What happened to the other primes
Maybe they died or just shut down like how jet fire was
@Parker Olson but the fallen said the last prime was dead
@Parker Olson the fallen said after optimas died that the last prime is dead but sen and qui was alive sen was sleep but alive
The best thing about you trans is that you upload in times of need like I was like I hope he uploads today and you did and the last time you uploaded was like month after u want to see in the future you doing uploads every 3 weeks like after 3 weeks another upload and btw keep up the good content I love how you always heart other people's comments and that you are super funny at making vids like that one time you said sentinel prick that was funny
I think the allspark created Quintessa, then Quintessa created everything else
If I remember correctly didn’t the knights say she was the great deceiver? I may be thinking of something completely different
Maybe I could complement this with a little theory of my own.
Spoilers for Transformers Earthrise!
In Earthrise, we meet a G1 inspired Quintesson, Deseeus, that, after arguing with its many faces, was fractured when Wrath tore off the other 4 faces. Going mad as a single entity.
What if Quintessa was like Wrath? One of 5 faces inhabiting a full Quintesson until breaking free, or being severed, to act on her own agenda. Being only a fraction of what we see in the concept art.
It's possible
I think Michael Bay just forgot the storyline
Yoo Im First HAHAHAAH
Third.
@@JustinSambula fourth
Quintessa the Palpatine of the Bayverse !
Lmao people always say that how do we know you’re not a bot Trans 😂😂😂
4th
Yay ur back! RUclips got quite boring without u uploading videos.Thanks and btw ur intro is cool and unique
Happy to help
Woah u replied!
I am a huge fan of transformers and u
Poor lockdown did not talk to his creator
I haven't watched this channel since 2018, ahh feels good to sit back and watch my 3r- i mean FIRST favorite channel
That's the golden answer
Awesome theory video on Quintessa. When she said that she was the 'Prime of life', I believed her until the Autobot Knights of Cybertron came in and informed us that Quintessa is the great deceiver. Otherwise, great video, man. Keep up the good work.
Three more videos to look for?? :0 EPICCCCC also you should make a Discord server
Also, i think Quintessa would not have the rank of prime. It is said that Primus created the Primes to defeat Unicron (idk about this in the bayverse, but its confirmed for the transformers prime timeline) and it is also said Quintus Prime is the creator of the Quintessons. If Quintus Prime indeed exists in the bayverse, Quintessa would probably have been the first Quintesson and Quintus Prime's second in command. Being the youngest of the Primes, Optimus was probably unaware of Unicron becoming the earth, while Primus and the remaining original Primes kept tabs on Unicron, who was in stasis at the time.
I never clicked so damn fast
OMG i just realized that your so close to 100k congrats
Wait didn't in the first movie; Optimus explained that the Allspark was the creator of the their race!?!
Yes but that gets later retconned by the last night
@@Theorymus wow these movies make a shit of sense.
I try to fix them as best as I can
@@Theorymus don't try too hard remember these Bayformers movies aren't known to make any sense, the script for these movies are just "BOOM", underage girls, and chachas.
In the comics, if I remember right, the Allspark was actually Cybertron's spark, and the creative force of the Transformers..........Which makes sense, to me, seeing as Cybertron is Primus, even in The Last Knight, and Primus is their creator in many continuities.....Of course, Megatron wanted that power for himself, so they were forced to launch it into space, effectively killing Cybertron.........
WOW TRANS KEEP UP THE AMAZING WORK, GG m8
Another OG subscriber how's it going mr. Monkey man
Hi trans it’s me agen, what about the cube from tf1
Welcome back dude
Thx man
@@Theorymus np man
Trans theories I ordered 19 tranformers figure and I'm ordering devastator and leadfoot today maybe
Nice
Omg I just realised Sam has a higher kill count then unicron lmao 😂
can you do what happened to the 7 primes
Sure
@@Theorymus Thxs
@@basedpota and his spark got kapow
Is lockdown working for quintessa
@@donaldbridgewater9674 i Dont think so
Damn this is make sense so much. nOW i SAD they canceled Rise of The Unicorn movie, interesting to see what would happened next
Quintessa is a Prime. She is the Creator of Quintessons. She created the creators.
It would be awesome if unicron will also have a godlike alternate form or just an illusion
I clicked as fast as I could
bro i will be happy to see u hit 100k subs
Yes TransTheories is back with another good video imo.
Its been a while
Indeed
AAAYYY finally it felt like a year since you uploaded great video
Thx
Nice 👍
Is "who sent lockdown to earth" the Lockdowns history with autobots video? Love your stuff, Trans...... You are the best and answered questions i didnt even know. Love yoi
Yes sir
Thanks!
No problem
I gotta be honest, I loved Quintessa’s design and the fact that she survived.
In the comix Cybertron is actually a being called Prima his brother was unicorn and he created the 13 Knight's to take him down and he went into deep sleep and debre started to form around him so prima went to sleep knowing if he woke up unicorn would awake
Remember that the Primes in this continuity are also a lineage, that's why both Optimus and Sentinel can have the Prime surname, so yeah, Quintessa can be a Prime.
Fineshed it and I LOVED IT!! I've been dying for some new transformers news my thirst is quenched. Thank you 💖
Happy to help
@@Theorymus trans I have a question that's ben bugging me all day. I want to create transformers content but I don't have any ideas. How do you get your ideas and do you use scripts
@@Theorymus also merry Christmas 💖
Well I use Scripts to structure my ideas I mean content comes from the bay verse like plot holes take example barricade where was he during Revenge of the Fallen and why does he appear in Dark of the Moon then try to make a logical explanation out of it or a story
@@Theorymus thank you very much 💖💖💖
Dude I love Transformers because there is so much interesting stuff going on but nothing is explained well. Your channel makes this series so much better
Happy to help