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Thanks for this plain exposition of events, covered up by so many years! No wonder, even some Christians honor the purity and radiant spirituality of Fatimah, a name exists even among them!
@Bahrom Olimov The haddith discussed in the video is the half of it. The hadith ends with , "when Imam Ali proposed to Abu jahal's daughter, The prophet said, WHO EVER UPSETS FATIMA, UPSETS ME" and tries to fix this Hadith on IMAM ALI a.s that IMAM ALI WAS THE ONE WHO UPSETTED BIBI FATIMA, diverting the readers and the believers from the fact that FATIMA the DAUGHTER of PROPHET was Upset with 1ST AND 2ND KHALIFA till she passed away. This is mentioned in SAHIH BUKHARI, MUSLIM AND OTHER SUNNI AND SHIA BOOKS. In the response of the hadith, (IMAM ALI PROPOSED TO ABU JAHAL'S DAUGHTER) there are several responses based on facts such as that; one of the Ravi of this Hadith whose name is MISWAR BIN MIKHRAMA, was just a little boy of 5 to 6 years old when this Incident happened and was from the enemies of Imam Ali a.s, and that this hadith was narrated from only one 6 year old companion despite the hadith says that BIBI FATIMA came during prophets khutba and Prophet said this hadith infront of the whole crowd,Other responses are discussed in the video how this hadith contradicts with ALLAH'S Law of marrying more than 1 time, and with BIBI FATIMA'S etiqutte towards his father. Note: The Hadith about "WHOEVER UPSETS FATIMA UPSETS ME" is mentioned on a different occassion with different contaxt, which I can share if it helps you know the background of this hadith.
@@mohamedkashwani950 ; Muhammad bin Abdullah Hazrami told us, he said Abdullah bin Muhammad bin Salim Qaraz told us, he said Hussain bin Zayd bin Ali bin Umar bin Ali told us, he told Jafar bin Muhammad, he told his father, From, on the authority of Ali ibn Hussain, on the authority of Hussain ibn Ali, on the authority of Ali (peace be upon him) that the Messenger of Allah, may God bless him and grant him peace, said to Fatimah: Allah is angry with you for being angry and is pleased with your contentment. طبرانی، سلیمان بن احمد، المعجم الکبیر، ج۲۲، ص۴۰۱۔ Hakim Nisha Puri has mentioned that the sanad of this hadith is Sahih even if it's not mentioned in SAHIH MUSLIM OR BUKHARI
@@mohamedkashwani950 Muhammad bin Husain Kufi narrated from us, he said: From us Malik bin Ismail, he said: From us Qais, he from Abdullah bin Imran, from Ali bin Zayd, he from Saeed bin Musayb, he from Ali. From Ibn Abi Talib (peace be upon him) that Imam Ali (peace be upon him) was in the service of the Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him), he (peace be upon him) said: What is the best thing for a woman?! (Imam Ali (peace be upon him) says) When I returned home, I said to Fatimah (peace be upon him): What is the best thing for women? He (peace be upon him) said: So that men should not see her, so I mentioned it to the Prophet (peace be upon him) and he (peace be upon him) said: Indeed, Fatima is a part of my being, O Allah. Be satisfied with her. بزّار، احمد بن عمرو، البحر الزخار (مسند البزار)، ج۲، ص۱۵۹-۱۶۰۔
@@mohamedkashwani950 And Abd al-Aziz ibn Abd al-Malik Umayy narrated to us, he said to us Sulaiman ibn Ahmad ibn Yahya, he said to us Mahmud ibn Rabi Amri narrated to us, he said to us Hamad ibn Isa Ghareeq Jafah narrated to us, he They say: Tahira bint Amr bin Dinar narrated to us, she says my father narrated to me, he narrated from Ata and Ata narrated from Jabir that he said: The Messenger of Allah, may God bless him and grant him peace, The Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) said to Fatimah (peace be upon him): Verily, Allah is angry when you (peace be upon him) are angry and is pleased when you are pleased. حاکم نیشابوری، محمد بن عبد اللہ، فضائل فاطمہ الزہراء، ص ۴۶، حدیث:۲۱۔
The third one is Miswar ibn Makhrama. His conspiracy is also of another level. According to the ilm-ur-rijal textbooks of our Ahle-Sunnat brothers he was born in 2 AH. (Ilm-ur-rijal: refers to a discipline of Islamic religious studies within hadith terminology in which the narrators of hadith are evaluated). And the marriage of Imam Ali ع and Syyeda Fatima Zahra s.a. took place in 1 or 2 AH. Nabi ﷺ died in the year 11 AH. And this Good-for-nothing fabricated incident took place in the last years of Prophet ﷺ 's life. And for proof of this narration this man Miswar ibn Makhrama said he witnessed the incident when he has crossed the limit of experiencing Ehtelam in his life (i.e., one needs to be at-least 13-14 years). Let's say if this incident happened in 7-8 AH, he would be 5-6 y/o or let's take ahead a little.... Even if the incident happened in 9-10 AH, he would be 7-8. 😂 Even in today's world when entire pornography, adult OTT shows are beneath the finger tips of any kid, he cannot reach the stage of Ehtelam at the age of 5-8, I don't know how the hell he did this!!
Excuse me sir! But I'd not read that Hazrat Fatima (r.s) went to masjid and screamed about the desire of Hazrat Ali(r.s). We always read that she (r.s) went to Prophet's home and told about Hazrat Ali's desire
Literally every 100 years a new version of the same person appears. At this point no one has any idea what actually happened 1400 years ago. Both Sunnis and Shias have so many conflicting accounts. I wish Arabs had a proper historian back in the day.
Tell us who is IMAM, who do you call Imam, what is your belief about Imam? According to your beliefs, what is the status of an Imam, what is an Imam upto?
The short answer: Allah never leaves mankind without a guide appointed by Him. The divine leader appointed after the Prophet is called Imam. The long answer: A new series on Shia beliefs on its way!
@@Thaqlain who was the devine leader for mankind for almost 600 years, the time elapsed between the prophet ESA was lifted to the heavens and our beloved prophet Muhammad PBUH?
Before the narration, comes a basic question: should there be a divine representative or does the justice of Allah allows a human being to be without a divine guide? And did the Prophet appoint someone as a guide after him or did he leave the Ummah without appointing a guide. Everything else becomes secondary.
@@Thaqlain don't know about that (any book )but wherever i see a video on this topic everyone says different things and they say it's in hadidt and mostly wahabi scholars say same thing and I find their words very disrespectful whenever they talk about imam Ali and hassas Hussain i never understand why it's so confusing for me because i dont because i don't follow any sect it's all new for me since I want to gain deep knowledge about these things
It is mentioned in a few Sunni books. However, as it allows them to move their crime of making Lady Zahra (salaamullahi alaiha) angry, they tend to push it more.
The story was 99,99% was fabricated For i know This event was timing before faktu Mekkah So.. Abu sofyan was still leader of kafr mekah And abu jahl was another leader before it And Rosulullah saww already married abu sofyan daughter (sayeda umu habiba) So abu jahl = abu sofyan position Did someone think that Rosulullah saww forbide that Rosulullah swww did it??? It was very very disrespectfullness It was clear evidence When some body promoting LIE There will be victim to comple it And correct sayid speaker said 3 victim was Rosulullah saww, sayeda fatima and Sayidina ali But Imho My brothers from shia school of thoughts Always And always hate And related their hate towards they hated If they speak more carefully, gently Not accusing clear subyect Maybe many our ahli sunnah brother will accept it
Let's suppose a person helps you 1000 times. However, one time he isn't able to be there for you. What will be your tone if he the only time he talks about is when you weren't there for him while ignoring the 1000 times you supported him? :)
Agreed, I have seen this hadith in tiktok n it s very ridiculous, sad things is I can see sunni with poor intellect keep blaming to imam Ali without respect.
Look at this rafdhi shia however he is abusing a companion of (Syedna Abu Huraira RA) of Holy Prophet (sws). This is problem of shiaism they feel entitled to use whatever abusive language they want to use but can't tolerate any reasonable thing if it pinches their false beliefs. This hadeeth is sahih and the explanation of ahl sunnah about this incident makes perfect sense without insult to holy persons like Prophet(sws) Ali or Fatima. However, as is typical of shia he is grossly exaggerating the incident (including his own expressions and lies into it). They are quick to quote sunni books where it suits them but run away from such incidents even if they are sahih.
You are not comfortable with Abu Huraira authencity being questioned But you are comfortable with the thought that Sayeda Fatima would lose her religion if her husband marries abu jahl’s daughter ? That thought challenges the Adl and wisdom of Allah Allah would chose to make Sayeda Fatima princess of heaven and yet you tell me her imaan could be so weak that she would leave Islam ?
The "sheikh/"معمم" is ignorant of his books and Muslims books, he is trying to discredit the book of Al-Bukhari with all his might, and worse than that is his reasoning and his reliance on unsupported narrations from the book “Salim bin Qais”. Indeed, you are ignorant, misguided and deceived
Sorry our mistake. The narration says "Fatima, the daughter of Allah's Apostle got angry and stopped speaking to Abu Bakr, and continued assuming that attitude till she died."
@@Thaqlain why are we trying to make a big deal out of it. It could very well have been a misunderstanding between the two, the prophet 's beloved daughter Fatima SA and the prophet's most trustworthy friend and father in law, Abubakar RA. I can't, even for a moment, think that any of these two had even a slightest of the bad intentions, not at all, it was nothing more than a difference in interpretation of what Fatima SA and Abubakar RA heard from the prophet about the matter. We should not be trying to make a big deal out of any misunderstanding or differences of opinions among the companions RA of the prophet Muhammad PBUH. Even if there was any misunderstanding or differences in opinions, all of them were firm in their believes and hundred percent loyal with the religion the prophet Muhammad PBUH bestowed them with. Will we be asked this question in grave or on the day of judgment, as to who between Fatima SA and Aboubakar RA was right and who was at fault? Let's try to stick to the basic believes and prepare for the question which we will have to face and answer in grave and on the day of judgment and not get involved in such non issues.
Well the thing is you will get questioned about wilayat of Imam Ali A.S in the hereafter, not the son of Abu Quhafa. So yeah, have fun explaining to Allah why you didn't want to follow the Prophet SAWW and his Ahlulbayt A.S.@@abdulm2941
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Wonderfully broken down, brick by brick. May Allah bless the tongues that endeavour to defend the rights of the Ahl al Bayt (a)..
Thanks for this plain exposition of events, covered up by so many years! No wonder, even some Christians honor the purity and radiant spirituality of Fatimah, a name exists even among them!
In order to save some individuals, they had crossed every limit even if it means insulting the prophet and Imam.
@Bahrom Olimov The haddith discussed in the video is the half of it. The hadith ends with , "when Imam Ali proposed to Abu jahal's daughter, The prophet said, WHO EVER UPSETS FATIMA, UPSETS ME" and tries to fix this Hadith on IMAM ALI a.s that IMAM ALI WAS THE ONE WHO UPSETTED BIBI FATIMA, diverting the readers and the believers from the fact that FATIMA the DAUGHTER of PROPHET was Upset with 1ST AND 2ND KHALIFA till she passed away.
This is mentioned in SAHIH BUKHARI, MUSLIM AND OTHER SUNNI AND SHIA BOOKS.
In the response of the hadith, (IMAM ALI PROPOSED TO ABU JAHAL'S DAUGHTER) there are several responses based on facts such as that; one of the Ravi of this Hadith whose name is MISWAR BIN MIKHRAMA, was just a little boy of 5 to 6 years old when this Incident happened and was from the enemies of Imam Ali a.s, and that this hadith was narrated from only one 6 year old companion despite the hadith says that BIBI FATIMA came during prophets khutba and Prophet said this hadith infront of the whole crowd,Other responses are discussed in the video how this hadith contradicts with ALLAH'S Law of marrying more than 1 time, and with BIBI FATIMA'S etiqutte towards his father.
Note: The Hadith about "WHOEVER UPSETS FATIMA UPSETS ME" is mentioned on a different occassion with different contaxt, which I can share if it helps you know the background of this hadith.
@@laughAFrame please do! I would love to know the actual hadith!
@@mohamedkashwani950
; Muhammad bin Abdullah Hazrami told us, he said Abdullah bin Muhammad bin Salim Qaraz told us, he said Hussain bin Zayd bin Ali bin Umar bin Ali told us, he told Jafar bin Muhammad, he told his father, From, on the authority of Ali ibn Hussain, on the authority of Hussain ibn Ali, on the authority of Ali (peace be upon him) that the Messenger of Allah, may God bless him and grant him peace, said to Fatimah: Allah is angry with you for being angry and is pleased with your contentment.
طبرانی، سلیمان بن احمد، المعجم الکبیر، ج۲۲، ص۴۰۱۔
Hakim Nisha Puri has mentioned that the sanad of this hadith is Sahih even if it's not mentioned in SAHIH MUSLIM OR BUKHARI
@@mohamedkashwani950 Muhammad bin Husain Kufi narrated from us, he said: From us Malik bin Ismail, he said: From us Qais, he from Abdullah bin Imran, from Ali bin Zayd, he from Saeed bin Musayb, he from Ali. From Ibn Abi Talib (peace be upon him) that Imam Ali (peace be upon him) was in the service of the Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him), he (peace be upon him) said: What is the best thing for a woman?! (Imam Ali (peace be upon him) says) When I returned home, I said to Fatimah (peace be upon him): What is the best thing for women? He (peace be upon him) said: So that men should not see her, so I mentioned it to the Prophet (peace be upon him) and he (peace be upon him) said: Indeed, Fatima is a part of my being, O Allah. Be satisfied with her.
بزّار، احمد بن عمرو، البحر الزخار (مسند البزار)، ج۲، ص۱۵۹-۱۶۰۔
@@mohamedkashwani950
And Abd al-Aziz ibn Abd al-Malik Umayy narrated to us, he said to us Sulaiman ibn Ahmad ibn Yahya, he said to us Mahmud ibn Rabi Amri narrated to us, he said to us Hamad ibn Isa Ghareeq Jafah narrated to us, he They say: Tahira bint Amr bin Dinar narrated to us, she says my father narrated to me, he narrated from Ata and Ata narrated from Jabir that he said: The Messenger of Allah, may God bless him and grant him peace, The Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) said to Fatimah (peace be upon him): Verily, Allah is angry when you (peace be upon him) are angry and is pleased when you are pleased.
حاکم نیشابوری، محمد بن عبد اللہ، فضائل فاطمہ الزہراء، ص ۴۶، حدیث:۲۱۔
Mash'Allah. Thanks for all your efforts in spreading the truth.
MashaAllah. Jazakallaahu Khairan Sheikh Seyed for the clarification.
Thank you so much Thaqlain & Sayed Mahdi Modarresi ⚘🖤
The third one is Miswar ibn Makhrama. His conspiracy is also of another level. According to the ilm-ur-rijal textbooks of our Ahle-Sunnat brothers he was born in 2 AH. (Ilm-ur-rijal: refers to a discipline of Islamic religious studies within hadith terminology in which the narrators of hadith are evaluated). And the marriage of Imam Ali ع and Syyeda Fatima Zahra s.a. took place in 1 or 2 AH. Nabi ﷺ died in the year 11 AH. And this Good-for-nothing fabricated incident took place in the last years of Prophet ﷺ 's life. And for proof of this narration this man Miswar ibn Makhrama said he witnessed the incident when he has crossed the limit of experiencing Ehtelam in his life (i.e., one needs to be at-least 13-14 years). Let's say if this incident happened in 7-8 AH, he would be 5-6 y/o or let's take ahead a little.... Even if the incident happened in 9-10 AH, he would be 7-8. 😂 Even in today's world when entire pornography, adult OTT shows are beneath the finger tips of any kid, he cannot reach the stage of Ehtelam at the age of 5-8, I don't know how the hell he did this!!
Now here is the icing over cake: This man is from Khawarijs 🤣
@@syed.murtaza_abbas what's that?
@@AliJawad-q5d Miswar ibn Makhrama ل is one of the narrators of this fabricated hadith of Imam Ali ع proposing the daughter of Abu Jahl ل
@@syed.murtaza_abbas but how imam sajjad naratted from miswar. Was he not aware of miswar beliefs?
Salam alaikum do u know the book which contains the refutation by al-kirsa ?
Alaykum Salaam. Sorry we weren't able to understand your question.
Excuse me sir! But I'd not read that Hazrat Fatima (r.s) went to masjid and screamed about the desire of Hazrat Ali(r.s). We always read that she (r.s) went to Prophet's home and told about Hazrat Ali's desire
Well, the original version in Bukhari is indeed disturbing. And in itself is a proof of it being fabricated.
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We will try for it.
Literally every 100 years a new version of the same person appears. At this point no one has any idea what actually happened 1400 years ago. Both Sunnis and Shias have so many conflicting accounts. I wish Arabs had a proper historian back in the day.
Well, that's not the case. So unless you give us proper example, we cannot answer your frustration :)
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Tell us who is IMAM, who do you call Imam, what is your belief about Imam?
According to your beliefs, what is the status of an Imam, what is an Imam upto?
The short answer: Allah never leaves mankind without a guide appointed by Him. The divine leader appointed after the Prophet is called Imam.
The long answer: A new series on Shia beliefs on its way!
@@Thaqlain who was the devine leader for mankind for almost 600 years, the time elapsed between the prophet ESA was lifted to the heavens and our beloved prophet Muhammad PBUH?
The forefathers of the Prophet, according to narrations, were divine representatives. We have covered this to an extent in Our Prophet series.
@@Thaqlain which narration, what is the Source and its authenticity?
Before the narration, comes a basic question: should there be a divine representative or does the justice of Allah allows a human being to be without a divine guide? And did the Prophet appoint someone as a guide after him or did he leave the Ummah without appointing a guide. Everything else becomes secondary.
Did imam ali propose to the daughter of abu jahal or the proposal came to him for the marriage can anyone explain please
A completely fabricated story. There is no credible evidence of proposal from any side.
@@Thaqlainis this story in any Hadith
Do you mean is Shia books?
@@Thaqlain don't know about that (any book )but wherever i see a video on this topic everyone says different things and they say it's in hadidt and mostly wahabi scholars say same thing and I find their words very disrespectful whenever they talk about imam Ali and hassas Hussain i never understand why it's so confusing for me because i dont because i don't follow any sect it's all new for me since I want to gain deep knowledge about these things
It is mentioned in a few Sunni books. However, as it allows them to move their crime of making Lady Zahra (salaamullahi alaiha) angry, they tend to push it more.
Thank you for sharing 🤲
well something is fishy
Astagfirullah.. What's this?????
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What has this got to do that ?!
The story was 99,99% was fabricated
For i know
This event was timing before faktu Mekkah
So.. Abu sofyan was still leader of kafr mekah
And abu jahl was another leader before it
And Rosulullah saww already married abu sofyan daughter (sayeda umu habiba)
So abu jahl = abu sofyan position
Did someone think that Rosulullah saww forbide that Rosulullah swww did it???
It was very very disrespectfullness
It was clear evidence
When some body promoting LIE
There will be victim to comple it
And correct sayid speaker said
3 victim was Rosulullah saww, sayeda fatima and Sayidina ali
But
Imho
My brothers from shia school of thoughts
Always
And always hate
And related their hate towards they hated
If they speak more carefully, gently
Not accusing clear subyect
Maybe many our ahli sunnah brother will accept it
Let's suppose a person helps you 1000 times. However, one time he isn't able to be there for you. What will be your tone if he the only time he talks about is when you weren't there for him while ignoring the 1000 times you supported him? :)
@@Thaqlain Sorry, this answer does not seem to be even relevant to the question
They even say imam ali A.S brought new religion destroying the religion by holy prophet
Ignorance at work.
Agreed, I have seen this hadith in tiktok n it s very ridiculous, sad things is I can see sunni with poor intellect keep blaming to imam Ali without respect.
Am intrested in shia but why do shia not make latmiya of Muhammad s.a.w or allah
Sorry we weren't able to get your question
Look at this rafdhi shia however he is abusing a companion of (Syedna Abu Huraira RA) of Holy Prophet (sws). This is problem of shiaism they feel entitled to use whatever abusive language they want to use but can't tolerate any reasonable thing if it pinches their false beliefs.
This hadeeth is sahih and the explanation of ahl sunnah about this incident makes perfect sense without insult to holy persons like Prophet(sws) Ali or Fatima.
However, as is typical of shia he is grossly exaggerating the incident (including his own expressions and lies into it). They are quick to quote sunni books where it suits them but run away from such incidents even if they are sahih.
Abuse and belittle the Nafs of the Prophet by calling it 'perfect sense' and then agitate on the response. How cool are some of our Sunni brethren.
Please enlighten me! Give me the sunni explanation which makes perfect sense.
You are not comfortable with Abu Huraira authencity being questioned
But you are comfortable with the thought that Sayeda Fatima would lose her religion if her husband marries abu jahl’s daughter ?
That thought challenges the Adl and wisdom of Allah
Allah would chose to make Sayeda Fatima princess of heaven and yet you tell me her imaan could be so weak that she would leave Islam ?
The "sheikh/"معمم" is ignorant of his books and Muslims books, he is trying to discredit the book of Al-Bukhari with all his might, and worse than that is his reasoning and his reliance on unsupported narrations from the book “Salim bin Qais”. Indeed, you are ignorant, misguided and deceived
Read the other comments and you'll find sources. You guys are ignorant.
The same Bukhari that states that Lady Zahra was upset with the first and second caliph?
Sorry our mistake. The narration says "Fatima, the daughter of Allah's Apostle got angry and stopped speaking to Abu Bakr, and continued assuming that attitude till she died."
@@Thaqlain why are we trying to make a big deal out of it. It could very well have been a misunderstanding between the two, the prophet 's beloved daughter Fatima SA and the prophet's most trustworthy friend and father in law, Abubakar RA. I can't, even for a moment, think that any of these two had even a slightest of the bad intentions, not at all, it was nothing more than a difference in interpretation of what Fatima SA and Abubakar RA heard from the prophet about the matter.
We should not be trying to make a big deal out of any misunderstanding or differences of opinions among the companions RA of the prophet Muhammad PBUH.
Even if there was any misunderstanding or differences in opinions, all of them were firm in their believes and hundred percent loyal with the religion the prophet Muhammad PBUH bestowed them with.
Will we be asked this question in grave or on the day of judgment, as to who between Fatima SA and Aboubakar RA was right and who was at fault?
Let's try to stick to the basic believes and prepare for the question which we will have to face and answer in grave and on the day of judgment and not get involved in such non issues.
Well the thing is you will get questioned about wilayat of Imam Ali A.S in the hereafter, not the son of Abu Quhafa. So yeah, have fun explaining to Allah why you didn't want to follow the Prophet SAWW and his Ahlulbayt A.S.@@abdulm2941