Traque - Classic WoW Hunter WSG PvP Guide

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  • Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
  • Hey guys ! Trying out a new type of video, please tell me what you thought about it and if you'd be interested in more videos of this type. I've been getting some requests lately about a guide on warsong or just playing hunter in general, so I thought I'd give it a try :D
    You can find me live on : / traquenuage
    BIS List for PvP Throughout all patches : docs.google.co...
    Ohhgee's guide to Premade : • WSG Premade Guide - De...
    Special thanks to Perplexity for being my personal english teacher

Комментарии • 248

  • @Traque
    @Traque  5 лет назад +38

    Hello there, please don't forget to read the description for the BiS PvP List.
    Also tell me if you want more (or less) of this type of videos in the future, if you do, tell me on what topic :D
    Enjoy !

    • @joshreed9337
      @joshreed9337 5 лет назад +2

      awesome guide, you should have a list/link of useful macros for hunters. I know there are quite a lot of macros that are good (forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=21017) but specifically which ones you deem the most useful.

    • @shadowkingd0m
      @shadowkingd0m 5 лет назад +1

      @@joshreed9337 these wont work on classic since it uses the modern client

    • @joshreed9337
      @joshreed9337 5 лет назад +1

      @@shadowkingd0m well shit.

    • @Traque
      @Traque  5 лет назад +1

      The only macro I actually use is /script if (not PlayerFrame.inCombat) then AttackTarget() end
      /cast Raptor Strike
      /cast Counterattack
      /cast Mongoose Bite
      And ofc Skull macro

    • @harrison878
      @harrison878 5 лет назад +1

      Do you think you could update that hunter PVP bis for WoW Classic Phases? I am sure a lot of people would be interested in that. I guess I am specifically talking about the super early game PVP bis, before dire maul/Honor system and before you can realistically get 8/8 T1. Cheers!

  • @957ad
    @957ad 5 лет назад +68

    Dueling guides vs the best of each class! Would LOVE to see that

  • @evilazza14
    @evilazza14 5 лет назад +25

    I normally don't comment on videos, but this was one of the most informed hunter pvp videos I've seen. I would love to see a guide on how to PvP, macros, pvp toys/items and how to win against each class. Keep up the good work!

  • @ksherman51
    @ksherman51 5 лет назад +26

    bro, your gonna be huge if u keep making stuff like this. Even tho hunter is popular theres barely any good guides on RUclips at this level just shitty leveling guides. Thanks for this.
    Edit: btw they tested lupos on beta and he is nerfed once tamed and no longer does shadow damage.

    • @Traque
      @Traque  5 лет назад +3

      Thanks man :D
      Yeah I heard, Wind Serpent will probably be the go to pet instead

    • @ksherman51
      @ksherman51 5 лет назад +1

      @@Traque quick question. Is that 2nd spec you show, the marksman one good for pve as well? or do any of these serve as a good pve/pvp spec?

    • @Traque
      @Traque  5 лет назад +2

      This marksman spec could be used in pve as well, but if you want to perform, I believe this would be the go to spec (slight changes depending on what raid classic.wowhead.com/talent-calc/hunter/BOQMMgAEONM3NAHA)
      Of course this also means you need more hit gear (no surefooted = need 3% extra hit)

    • @agrious39
      @agrious39 5 лет назад

      @@Traque Is going bm a bit for damage worth losing surefooted, imp. Wingclip health and increased trap resist?

    • @igotaces3286
      @igotaces3286 5 лет назад

      @@agrious39 if you can get 9% hit from gear that is the go-to raid spec

  • @IvanPlutiNZ
    @IvanPlutiNZ 5 лет назад +13

    Yeah this was awesome! More vids on wpvp or general pvp tips would be appreciated. Keep up the good work :)

    • @Nuclearcx
      @Nuclearcx 5 лет назад +1

      The only thing I disliked was not telling to target rogues more during all phases of the wsg fight. They are more important to kill than warlocks imo and just as squishy, plus a hunter or a well geared warrior is the only real counter to them.

  • @tionblack
    @tionblack 5 лет назад

    I came here randomly and i admire the SIMPLE and GOOD and TO THE POINT explanation.You even kinda made me wanna roll hunter for classic.

    • @Traque
      @Traque  5 лет назад

      Glad I was helpful, join the hunter community :D

  • @akselolsson7576
    @akselolsson7576 5 лет назад +1

    Dude this was the best video in ages!! Would love to see more. Maybe a more in-depth trap video with wsg focus. With different situations. Or maybe some more in-depth video about item swaps and consumables! Or just some 1v1 tips.
    Loved the video 👍

    • @Traque
      @Traque  5 лет назад +2

      Thanks for the feedback, I'll think about those :D

  • @shadowkingd0m
    @shadowkingd0m 5 лет назад +1

    Awesome vid man, I'd love to see any videos related to hunters at a high level such as this one, what to do when a rogue opens on you without a trap, how to get a mage out of your deadzone, AV, AB, pretty much anything, even PvE stuff would be cool to watch from such a good hunter

    • @Traque
      @Traque  5 лет назад

      Hi, thanks man, pve is not really my kink so I don't think i'll make videos on that topic, but anything about pvp, I'm down :D

  • @Daxterous
    @Daxterous 5 лет назад

    Thank you for the extra effort for doing this in English with subtitles Traque!

    • @Traque
      @Traque  5 лет назад

      That was a little bit of work indeed but fortunately I had the greatest English teacher by my side!

  • @taylenday
    @taylenday 5 лет назад +1

    Dude thank you so much. Love this kind of content. Especially appreciate the bis list!

  • @polylols6991
    @polylols6991 5 лет назад +3

    7:28 ofc drexxer is crying as always xD great vid baguette

  • @Sc00rm
    @Sc00rm 5 лет назад +2

    Just a like for the best Vanilla WOW Hunter. I hope you can shortly stream the beta. :)

    • @Traque
      @Traque  5 лет назад +1

      Thanks, I hope as well :D

  • @Lyachos
    @Lyachos 5 лет назад +1

    Best Classic Hunter on RUclips, you have a real opportunity here to build up a big channel!

  • @Deathtouchttv
    @Deathtouchttv 5 лет назад

    As a multi-glad hunter I have to say it is a good guide and always important like you say to call things out. I look forward playing alliance this go around since most people will play horde.

    • @Traque
      @Traque  5 лет назад +1

      Hi, thanks, means a lot to me :D

    • @Deathtouchttv
      @Deathtouchttv 5 лет назад

      @@Traque lmk what server you play when it goes live. Love to play with some elite hunters

  • @217mmax
    @217mmax 5 лет назад +1

    Love the video, I would like to see a video on your thoughts on each hunter race horde and alliance with a pros and cons!

    • @Traque
      @Traque  5 лет назад

      Thanks :D
      I'm working on it !

  • @thesmileup6827
    @thesmileup6827 5 лет назад +7

    Can you make pvp 1vs2 break down guide how to fight rouges locks mages how to fight biggest Hunter counters with several pvp options since Hunter are as I see underdogs hard to master in general as ppl say huntards btw like your shadow meld freezing trap reset strategie

    • @Traque
      @Traque  5 лет назад +4

      Thanks, sure, I'll think about something like that :D

  • @mikem9265
    @mikem9265 5 лет назад +1

    I want to play Hunter, but my guild is rolling Horde. How superior is NE vs Orc? I feel like shadowmeld gives a lot more versatility as a Hunter.

    • @Traque
      @Traque  5 лет назад

      It won't be as good in Classic because you get in combat as you fire a projectile instead of as you hit, meaning that feign death smeld combo won't be as efficient. Overall I think this change makes Shadowmeld as useful as orc racial, so don't worry about that.

  • @Leuk0s
    @Leuk0s 5 лет назад +1

    This was very helpful, thanks!
    I've been playing casters for ages and I'm strongly considering playing Hunter for Classic, however, I was wondering if you could go even more basic with Hunter fundamentals. Stuff like your macros, what to do when you get Cheap Shot'd by a Rogue, Racials and how they affect Hunters, the combos you can pull off of a Scatter Shot or a Grenade toss, notable weapons and their on-use effects, when to go Aggressive with your melee, Item/Trinket interactions, and any useful pet abilities. Simply, the sort of stuff that you figure out on your own after spending hundreds of hours on the class and having all sorts of "aha!" moments that aren't too obvious for people new to the class.
    There's a lot of info out there but it's all so disorganized and questionable that I'm not sure where to even look.

    • @Traque
      @Traque  5 лет назад

      My Pleasure to help!
      I've been considering those type of guides but I feel like they won't matter as much as this kind of guide since the more basic I go the more it's possible that someone already did a guide about such topic. But if there's nothing like that available I guess that's always an option

  • @thesmileup6827
    @thesmileup6827 5 лет назад

    You only french person that I don't hate love you dedication to Hunter class

    • @Traque
      @Traque  5 лет назад

      Wow thanks that's sweet

    • @100plusRG
      @100plusRG 5 лет назад

      That's also mean to all the other frenchies :P

    • @Traque
      @Traque  5 лет назад

      Rofl yeah

  • @logangayler
    @logangayler 5 лет назад +5

    More hunter pvp videos please

  • @gsxcxsc1012
    @gsxcxsc1012 5 лет назад

    This is amazing, ive always had a hard time becoming good at pvp. I've realized that the biggest issue is my game knowledge, knowing what classes have what spells and what animations they bring etc. Hunter seems like a class heavily reliant on knowing what others are doing. Im going to pick up hunter in classic because of that. And ths guide makes life abit easier. :)

    • @Traque
      @Traque  5 лет назад +1

      Happy to help :D

  • @shkrosse
    @shkrosse 5 лет назад +1

    Great guide, would love to see guides to wPvP and the other BGs

  • @Nordanix
    @Nordanix 5 лет назад +1

    Amazing video, looking forward to other guides in the future! :)
    Just a quick question: How come you don't play Dwarf? I've been told that Stoneform is way better than Shadowmeld, but I guess this varies greatly depending on which is being played Battleground?

    • @Traque
      @Traque  5 лет назад +2

      Night elf is actually way better than Dwarf in my opinion.
      Dwarf is basically only useful rogue's poisons, dealing with rogue is not really hard as hunter if you have the proper tools.
      Whereas night elf has that amazing spell being shadowmeld. You can use it in many ways, whether it is to set up an ambush or hide from opponents.
      If it was only that, then it would have been a tie, but you can also combo Feign Death with Shadowmeld since it brings you out of combat to stop your opponents from casting twice in a row, this is super valuable considering casters are the hardest classes to deal with as a hunter.
      So basically, Nelf is better as their racial ability is way more reliable in almost every matchup (+ it's super fun)

    • @Nordanix
      @Nordanix 5 лет назад +1

      @@Traque I really appreciate your answer, thank you! :)

  • @kitarriwow683
    @kitarriwow683 5 лет назад

    Great video! Loved the larger text this time more central to the screen. Please consider doing a Great Wizard style duel video if you get the time.
    Thanks for putting in the time to create this and once again great video très bien!

    • @Traque
      @Traque  5 лет назад +1

      Merci monsieur, I'll think about it although with beta and all, gonna be hard to meetup with great players :D

  • @roolsrojc1
    @roolsrojc1 4 года назад

    U are insane. Hunter POW 4ever. playing hunter for 11 years now.

  • @jefferybrown413
    @jefferybrown413 5 лет назад +1

    Hey Traque, great video! Can you make another video on some complex things hunters need to know from being "good" to "really good"? Like weapon switching, intricacies, etc. Thanks :D

    • @Traque
      @Traque  5 лет назад +2

      Hey there, thanks :D
      That's definitely what I plan on focussing on.
      I think most people can easily figure out the basics and slightly advanced things by themselves so guides really have a value when they are in depth and actually focused on complex mechanics

    • @jefferybrown413
      @jefferybrown413 5 лет назад +1

      @@Traque super good philosophy! keep it up

  • @TatistCrusade
    @TatistCrusade 5 лет назад

    These videos are great, I’d love to see videos pertaining to other bgs, strategies, hunter tips and tricks and how you approach each class and situation strategically, how you feel about alliance vs horde play orc/nightelf :)

  • @LuckR-
    @LuckR- 5 лет назад +2

    Amazing! All aboard to hype train

    • @Traque
      @Traque  5 лет назад +2

      Thenk you !

  • @axelkriborg3153
    @axelkriborg3153 5 лет назад +3

    Loved the vid, do you prefer Night elf over Orc hunter?

    • @KumaSC2
      @KumaSC2 5 лет назад

      Would like to know this too.

    • @breed4659
      @breed4659 5 лет назад +2

      Shadowmeld is soooooo useful. Never played an orc hunter but i used to catch people slippin with shadowmeld constantly. Theyd be running across midfield and out of nowhere my cat would start in on them and theyd get a crit aimed shot, autoshot, multishot, autoshot, arcane shot..... dead before they had any idea where i was.

    • @axelkriborg3153
      @axelkriborg3153 5 лет назад

      @@breed4659 Yeh i can definately see the usefulness of shadowmeld paired with a stealthed pet. Blood fury together with hardiness isnt bad either tho.

  • @edmontonlivermoore4935
    @edmontonlivermoore4935 5 лет назад

    very useful guide, I wish other class specialists would create similar videos
    edit: use music w/o lyrics during explanations so your words don't get mixed up with the music

    • @Traque
      @Traque  5 лет назад +1

      Thanks !
      I'll be careful about this next time :D

  • @GermanPvP
    @GermanPvP 5 лет назад +1

    Do a Duels vs each class. Good, fun and informative content!

  • @jacobhall6801
    @jacobhall6801 5 лет назад

    Hey Traque. Watched your vid a second time now because your accent is cool and your expertise is intriguing to my ears. I will be going hunter for classic and one concern for me has been pets. The idea of losing a pet because it dies a lot in pvp concerns me. I was curious how much damage pets contribute and if one running away is a huge burden? How often do you have to feed a pet as well? Thanks! I am super excited to play classic as a hunter. Trinket switching seems cool too. Vurtne videos showed me the importance of it. Awesome vid btw. Best one I've seen on RUclips

    • @Traque
      @Traque  5 лет назад +1

      Jacob Hall hey, thanks a lot!
      You don't have to worry about pet running away, it's only a thing early on, once your pet reaches loyalty level 6 it barely asks for food anymore and it won't run away unless you really want it to.
      It does deal a fair amount of dmg early on but later on its more used to pushback casters

  • @peepeepooopoo
    @peepeepooopoo 8 месяцев назад

    I'm 4 years late but amazing quality

    • @Krelian89
      @Krelian89 7 месяцев назад

      With SoD most of this guide is outdated, but still good to know the basics

  • @timblomqvist2275
    @timblomqvist2275 4 года назад

    Traque. Please. More hunter videos.

  • @leglonglon
    @leglonglon 5 лет назад

    Excellente vidéo, les sous-titres sont superflus à mon goût car ta diction est très claire. On sent que tu fais des efforts pour que les rosbeefs te comprennent :)))

    • @Traque
      @Traque  5 лет назад

      Merci :D
      J'étais pas trop sur, alors on va dire que c'était pour les sourds et malentendants

    • @leglonglon
      @leglonglon 5 лет назад

      @@Traque Aie confiance en toi mon fils

  • @sovietforce9846
    @sovietforce9846 5 лет назад +4

    Great guide , it will be rly helpfull for every hunter ! Keep it up!

    • @Traque
      @Traque  5 лет назад +1

      Thanks :D

  • @Stormy2021x
    @Stormy2021x 5 лет назад

    I did WSG with melee hunter... it was hilariously effective.

    • @Traque
      @Traque  5 лет назад

      I guess it can deal some damage, but I'd rather stay far away and watch as my melee tank for me :D

  • @mastrbutcher
    @mastrbutcher 4 года назад

    Good shit homie! Ty

  • @IWillSexU
    @IWillSexU 2 года назад

    How come you didn't mention the scattershot/rest in survival spec?
    It seems the strongest for pvp. more dmg/crit/hp/cc. It may have only weaker burst if you got renataki, since you won't be having imp multi shot.

  • @tylerdurden8191
    @tylerdurden8191 5 лет назад +1

    Woow!!! you make pvp look so fun as hunter! I am torn between being FC druid or with my other choice of leveling Hunter to 60 first... I was kind of thinking not to do hunter because I thought pvp for them would be so drab.. but you totally turned around my thinking on that! I can't wait for phase 2 classic haha! do I go for hunt pvp gear or Druid gear first?! Thanks for the insightful video.

    • @Traque
      @Traque  5 лет назад +2

      Hi, thanks, means a lot to me :D
      Well if I were you, I'd go hunter first, because at launch is when leveling will be most exciting and dangerous at the same time. Hunters are the most powerful leveling classes so you would feel at east.

  • @Mammel248
    @Mammel248 5 лет назад +2

    Nice accent lol :P
    Great guide, very interested to see something like this for AB and AV

    • @Traque
      @Traque  5 лет назад

      Merci merci!

  • @joel-kv7ng
    @joel-kv7ng 2 года назад

    I’ve always assumed Druid on offence for FC? Why do you think it’s better on Def.

  • @adamjackson7585
    @adamjackson7585 5 лет назад +1

    Amazing video. Thanks. Can we get a dueling 1v1 guide for every class also? Thanks!

    • @Traque
      @Traque  5 лет назад +1

      I believe Prisom is working on it, but I could get to it eventually

  • @b4sh1kops
    @b4sh1kops Год назад

    FFS HOW THIS MAN CAN EVEN BE A HUMAN (o.o') AMAZING VIDEO LUV U

  • @MrCallumDennis
    @MrCallumDennis 5 лет назад +1

    Love this, but thank god for the subtitles :P JK :P
    So in short i attack, with pet on aggressive, melee plate wearers and avoid warlocks at all cost, hope nothing got lost in translation

    • @Traque
      @Traque  5 лет назад +3

      Yeah that's definitely it, always focus plate wearers, keep pet on agressive, always look for sheeped units and cast Tame Beast

    • @MrCallumDennis
      @MrCallumDennis 5 лет назад +1

      @@Traque oh and of course be a good team player and keep encouraging Alex and Sam, as they are not french, so no where near as talented or confident on rogue

    • @Traque
      @Traque  5 лет назад +1

      You got it :D

  • @Brian_irl
    @Brian_irl 5 лет назад

    Excellent video! I think a lot of new hunters, interested in PvP, would like your insight on how best to fight each class. For example: How would you deal with an Enhancement Shaman who keeps using totems to eat your traps?

    • @Traque
      @Traque  5 лет назад +1

      Hi there, thanks a lot !
      that's a good topic of video but there would be a lot to cover, I'll try to make something like that if I have time

  • @andorieljixx8903
    @andorieljixx8903 5 лет назад

    i dont play or plan to play hunter in classic but i learnt so much here great video.

  • @craptor1234
    @craptor1234 4 года назад

    how do you deal with fap rocket boot pushes when you dont have an offensive dispel on defense?

  • @nimloth8267
    @nimloth8267 5 лет назад

    Great content, would love to see some AB guides, as well as WPVP and 1v1 guides

  • @addohm
    @addohm 4 года назад

    You said to spec your pet properly, but you didn't say what properly is?

  • @kurtak_
    @kurtak_ 5 лет назад +1

    great vid.

  • @hilzu3098
    @hilzu3098 5 лет назад

    Very good guide,thx for this:D

  • @jean-michelnicolas9999
    @jean-michelnicolas9999 5 лет назад

    Hi, thanks for the guide, a few questions :
    - why spec your pet in arcane resistance instead of frost ? A frost novaed pet is useless.
    - why do you put 3 points in humanoid slaying instead of parry ? 3% gives 60 more damages on a 2000 aimed shot, not worth 3 points in PVP imo, I'd much rather parry a mortal strike or a sinister strike.
    - the blacksmithing trinket is only available to alliance fyi

    • @martinfalk4093
      @martinfalk4093 5 лет назад +2

      Sheep is an arcane spell

    • @Traque
      @Traque  5 лет назад +4

      -So, it's better to put Arcane for sheep than frost for nova, if mage nova's your pet, this means he won't have nova for you, and that basically means he lost the fight against you. So all mages keep nova cd for you, not for the pet.
      -3 points in humanoid slaying is better than parry because you shouldn't ever need to parry melee attacks. Don't forget that humanoid slaying also increases crit damage. You make use 100% of the time of humanoid slaying whereas the parry should be useful like 10% of the time.
      -Not sure about that? It should be both faction

    • @jean-michelnicolas9999
      @jean-michelnicolas9999 5 лет назад

      @@Traque thanks for the answer !
      Got it for arcane resistance, didn't think about the sheep.
      I can't agree on humanoid slaying for PVP : even if you crit for 3000 (I guess you would need to be full Naxx geared) you get 90 damage more, not a fight breaker imo. But parrying a warrior execute might make all the difference.
      If we're speaking about Glimmering Mithril Insignia yes it's alliance only, you can only get the quest from a dwarf in IF : classicdb.ch/?item=10418#reward-of

    • @Traque
      @Traque  5 лет назад +3

      My pleasure to answer questions :D, it is for both faction : classic.wowhead.com/item=10418/glimmering-mithril-insignia check the comments
      The humanoid slaying is passive on humanoid (+3% damage) and on crit (+3% crit damage) so that would be 180 extra damage on that 3000 crit.
      3% Parry is extremely low and will basically give you one parry out of 33 melee hit.
      You should very rarely get stuck in melee with a warrior or a rogue, and even if you do, you should have deterrence up by that time, it's only a 5 minute CD, and getting stuck in melee with warriors or rogue shouldn't happen more often than that.

    • @jean-michelnicolas9999
      @jean-michelnicolas9999 5 лет назад +2

      @@Traque Oh cool for the trinket, I guess I'll have to go blacksmithing / engi now.
      You're cheating with humanoid slaying :p It was 3000 total damage, crit included.
      Still not convinced but since you have much more experience than I have, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt I'll test both talents once I reach 60 ;-)

  • @jeanneymar2603
    @jeanneymar2603 5 лет назад +1

    salut mec, j'espère te voir bientôt sur Classic.

  • @brendanj8344
    @brendanj8344 5 лет назад

    I'd like to see a guide on spots hunters can get to, I saw you climbing the walls in a different video just outside of the tunnel and I would like to know all of the terrain tricks

    • @Traque
      @Traque  5 лет назад

      Hi, I did a little guide on those but I didn't cover every single jump, if you wanna know more there should be guides around, else just pm me on Discord :D

  • @guillermocrocetti
    @guillermocrocetti 5 лет назад +1

    Excelent video. Can you give your opionion on races for pvp as a hunter. (I like tauren but orc seems better for stun ressistance)

    • @Traque
      @Traque  5 лет назад +1

      Hey there ! Thanks
      If you are going Horde, I can only suggest going Orc (female preferably as the Deadzone is smaller than male). Tauren's Deadzone will be 2y bigger than your usual Deadzone, which is extremely bad for hunters

    • @100plusRG
      @100plusRG 5 лет назад

      Alliance side? Is creative use of Shadowmelding better than Stoneforming viper stings/crippling poisons/blind? EDIT: nvm answered below :) Good guide!

    • @Traque
      @Traque  5 лет назад +1

      I'll make an in depth video about that

  • @zekay_
    @zekay_ 5 лет назад +1

    I love your accent! Keep ur vids up bud.

  • @Adamantiis
    @Adamantiis 5 лет назад

    whoa a whole 5 years? amazing

  • @martinfalk4093
    @martinfalk4093 5 лет назад +1

    Good job perp his English improved a lot
    Jk
    Good video thanks for the insight on hunter

    • @Traque
      @Traque  5 лет назад +1

      perp #1 eng teacher

  • @Deathhybr1ds
    @Deathhybr1ds 5 лет назад +1

    best huntard guide out there for classic. keep it up lad' subscribed

  • @Fropxy
    @Fropxy 2 месяца назад

    is NE a best race for wsg/fc hunter?

  • @anticoomer
    @anticoomer 5 лет назад

    Spicy video

  • @KumaSC2
    @KumaSC2 5 лет назад

    How do hunter fare in pvp post AQ release and later? I have heard that their dps drops off a lot in PvE due to poor scaling, but i don't really care too much about that. What about PvP? Will warlocks start dominating us when they get hands on t3 scaling? That is where classic will end up it seems :)

  • @ogikay7056
    @ogikay7056 5 лет назад

    I really want to play as a nelf but orc racial seems way too good to pass. What do you think of Nelf racial especially in wpvp?

  • @masemaxwell7311
    @masemaxwell7311 4 года назад

    You said to get pet resistances but how would you spend those points/what is priority for pet points :D

  • @yfba7261
    @yfba7261 5 лет назад

    Hey dude, love your guide.
    What do u think about Bm/aimed shot? Is it so underrated spec, or is a really bad spec?

    • @Traque
      @Traque  5 лет назад

      Hi, it's only good in early game when you have shit gear, as soon as soon as you reach pre raid bis, you can drop and go 0/31/20

  • @jff2def
    @jff2def 4 года назад

    wouldn' t 8/8 t1 be better than 8/8 t2 due to the increased multi shot damage?

  • @apx777
    @apx777 5 лет назад

    Could you please make a video covering tactics and tricks against every class for WPVP 1v1 situations?

    • @Traque
      @Traque  5 лет назад

      Hi! I'll probably do that in the future yeah

  • @Julien-sv1hi
    @Julien-sv1hi 5 лет назад

    Salutt ! belle video gg ! Tu n'utilise pas les frappes cacs ?

    • @Traque
      @Traque  5 лет назад +1

      Merci, si, en burst en général

  • @d2tz
    @d2tz 5 лет назад

    Hey I really enjoyed this video, hope to see more content from you soon :)

    • @Traque
      @Traque  5 лет назад

      Thanks, will surely do !

  • @Alyxcz
    @Alyxcz 5 лет назад +1

    How about the wyvern talent build but instead of wyvern get scatter, isn't that good?

    • @jacobhall6801
      @jacobhall6801 5 лет назад +1

      Yes. Many do that

    • @jacobhall6801
      @jacobhall6801 5 лет назад

      I'd like to add tho that you miss out on damage for multishot tho. Lightning reflex is only better once you have 600+ agi

  • @ahnoldshort5500
    @ahnoldshort5500 5 лет назад +2

    Lol @ hearing Cadets funny voice/accent in the clips

  • @Jobbazz
    @Jobbazz 5 лет назад +1

    Moar!

  • @aidsimo
    @aidsimo 4 года назад

    very interested in this type of content, what server is this?

  • @alphapolimeris
    @alphapolimeris 5 лет назад

    Ah ben tiens, j'ai justement décidé de jouer un chassou pour Classic. Je n'ai pas joué depuis le milieu de WotLK.
    Bravo pour le gameplay en tout cas. On voit du très bon niveau :)
    Tu as un avis sur Viper Sting pour le drain de mana ? Trop lent pour le format BG ? Meilleur en sauvage 1v1 ? Est ce vrai qu'elle casse les mezz ?

    • @Traque
      @Traque  5 лет назад

      Hi, merci ça fait plaisir :D
      Le viper sting est très utile mais peut parfois se retourner contre toi, si un caster que tu as viper est en mêlée, tu ne peux plus le cc parce que le tick de viper va break les cc.
      En BG c'est très utile, mais seulement lorsque personne n'est dans le coin pour dispell, en général la plupart des compos ont quelqu'un pour dispell en atq/def, le spamming viper est seulement utile lorsque le heal est trop pressure pour heal et ne peut pas dispell dans ces situations.
      En 1v1, la viper est rarement utile sauf dans les matchup SL / SP car tu ne peux pas les burst, donc je suggère pas trop de viper en 1v1, tu devrais avoir tué ton adversaire avant qu'il soit oom.
      Un truc bon à savoir est que tu peux cancel viper en appliquant morsure du scorpide qui n'inflige aucun dot (réduction des stats) résultat tu peux cc après.
      Pas trop compris les mezz :D

    • @alphapolimeris
      @alphapolimeris 5 лет назад

      @@Traque Pardon, j'ai pas fait de mmo depuis un moment et je suis surement dépassé niveau vocabulaire ! Tu as déjà répondu à mes questions: par mezz, je voulais parler des contrôles qui cassent avec les dégats. Je crois que ça vient de mesmerize sur un autre jeu. Et en franglais abrégé ça a donné mezz je suppose.
      Merci pour tes réponses !

  • @frederikvanhees4701
    @frederikvanhees4701 5 лет назад

    Hi great video : I want a video about hunter races breakdown : horde (orc ) vs alliance (dwarf ne ) as an alliance u will fight a lot more low armor class so that’s beneficial and I would love to get a stoneform vs shadowmeld (combo) breakdown. Also which pets you use in pvp (serpents vs wolfs vs cats) and a breakdown if howl + zg trinket + aimed is viable.

    • @Traque
      @Traque  5 лет назад

      Hi! Thanks!
      I think I will do a video about races for hunter and compare both factions as it's often asked
      For the pet : since lupos will be nerfed, wolf is just bad for pvp
      Wind serpent is good for extra damage, I'd recommend taking it only in early game when you don't have a lot of dmg or if you didn't get broken tooth
      Otherwise, the go to is broken tooth for sure
      So na furious howl isn't worth it, the dmg bonus is great, but you lose too much pushback and ur pet is too bad for fights

  • @genk1929
    @genk1929 5 лет назад +1

    vary cooL)

    • @Traque
      @Traque  5 лет назад

      hey ur COOL

  • @viviencasado6207
    @viviencasado6207 5 лет назад +1

    Bonne vidéo continue ! ;)

  • @anihroxxor
    @anihroxxor 4 года назад

    no counter attack + scatter spec?

  • @grimetone
    @grimetone 4 года назад

    For next guide: Skip the heavy music with vocals and use a more ambient sound instead.

  • @LyRiCkZ417
    @LyRiCkZ417 5 лет назад

    Whats your client your graphics is retextured if i see right

    • @Traque
      @Traque  5 лет назад

      It's the usual client but I downloaded a texture patch, you should be able to find it on the internet

  • @timex3254
    @timex3254 4 года назад

    how do you get in I had tried can get in

  • @Actionlutz
    @Actionlutz 5 лет назад

    I would be interested to hear your opinion on the 21marks / 30 survival spec. Isn't there a point where the 15% agi outscales the trueshot aura and range spec?

    • @Traque
      @Traque  5 лет назад

      The issue with that spec is losing 15% increased dmg on Multishot and 5% on all shots, it's not worth it

    • @jacobhall6801
      @jacobhall6801 5 лет назад

      I've read that 600+ agi outscales mm. But 600 agi is late game raid gear so for awhile, not worth it. When 600+ agi, lightning reflex is a go to for pve too

  • @cc-hl9yo
    @cc-hl9yo 5 лет назад

    rly nice video man

  • @brettessex5634
    @brettessex5634 5 лет назад

    Whats your opinions on a true BM class, speccing into pure pet dmg? particularly in early patches to benefit from their base dmg.
    Another note, what do you think about scopids for Pvp, as dispelling poisons they may often dispel the lesser scopid poisons over your scorpid sting,

    • @Traque
      @Traque  5 лет назад +1

      Hey there, true bm is only good when you have low gear in early game, once you have around pre raid you can go for mm.
      Scorpids for pvp may sound like a good idea at first, but it is actually pretty bad in my opinion because it blocks all cc's for you and your team, and you can't cancel it unlike viper.

    • @brettessex5634
      @brettessex5634 5 лет назад

      @@Traque ah thats some pritty good points man thankyou!
      My dreams of a true BM scorpion raidboss is dead however.

  • @swihkjmhplmWPH
    @swihkjmhplmWPH 5 лет назад

    nice vid man please do more

    • @Traque
      @Traque  5 лет назад

      sure thing!

  • @yongefy
    @yongefy 5 лет назад

    Nice content! Keep it up!

  • @kimbraskerud231
    @kimbraskerud231 5 лет назад

    what do u think about full beast hunter with bestial wrath?

    • @Traque
      @Traque  5 лет назад

      It could have worked if Lupos wasn't nerfed and did ignore armor but without that, it's no use. Because of pet not scaling this can only work in very early game/

  • @adamjackson7585
    @adamjackson7585 5 лет назад

    What addon was that "Poly morph on you" ?

    • @Traque
      @Traque  5 лет назад

      Hi, that was EnemyFrames

  • @peraspera1302
    @peraspera1302 5 лет назад

    Synthwave music and hunters, what a sweet combo.

  • @thesmileup6827
    @thesmileup6827 5 лет назад

    I wanted to play Hunter suv &mm hibrid for classic but I noticed that Hunter are underdogs in dps and pvp now planning switch to soul link lock for world pvp and bg top kills lock have way way more options for pvp situations since lock won 1v1 turnament and always in top kills in bgs and top dmg am I doing good decision for going lock for classic ? I was maining sp for past 12years and I am kinda Hunter at heart

    • @Traque
      @Traque  5 лет назад

      You should play what you like playing (ok cringe answer)
      Hunter is actually really good at pvp, warlock are good in pure duel situation where they get to adapt their gear etc, but Hunter is actually one of the class that performs really good in all dimensions of pvp, whether it's wpvp / duel / bgs they perform pretty good everywhere.
      Also, Soul Link is super boring

    • @jw4792
      @jw4792 5 лет назад

      Should never play a class because it looks to be the best. Just because that one person performs well, does not mean you will perform well, thus play what you enjoy

    • @jacobhall6801
      @jacobhall6801 5 лет назад

      Hunters will always be good in pvp in vanilla because of cc. You are right for pve tho. They are good initially but do not scale well and fall off 2 raids later. Still better than hybrids, but the lowest pure dps. They have tranq shot tho and most people wont deny you unless you show you are a huntard.

  • @NelsonFPV
    @NelsonFPV Год назад

    I've been playing for 5 years now...

  • @tiagoferrari2392
    @tiagoferrari2392 5 лет назад

    Hey man, how would you compare Hunters to Locks when it comes to BGs?

    • @Traque
      @Traque  5 лет назад

      They're pretty hard to compare, I think I have an answer to this on my Discord server, otherwise ask me in pm I'll give you a pretty extensive answer :D discord.gg/aQDn96x

  • @samisuhonen9815
    @samisuhonen9815 5 лет назад

    I have heard of a survival spec that goes 21 in marksmanship to get scattershot, while still getting the 15% agi with 30 in survival. Wouldn't this be a rather good spec? Especially for lower gear levels, since it gets a lot of hit chance and crit chance from talents, as well as good bonus agility and stamina.

    • @Traque
      @Traque  5 лет назад

      This spec actually gets stronger as you get stronger gear, I don't recommend it because I think 15% dmg on multishot is just too good to be skipped, this spec could be OK once you're in t3

    • @jacobhall6801
      @jacobhall6801 5 лет назад

      15% agi is good when 600+ agi. Especially good for pve tho

  • @pr0gressd
    @pr0gressd 5 лет назад +2

    Great guide but only 50 players in the world play "competitive vanilla wsg"

    • @Traque
      @Traque  5 лет назад

      Hey hopefully more thanks to this :D

  • @micka2504
    @micka2504 5 лет назад

    Salut !! Super vidéo bien expliqué et tu explique bcp de choses en détail cest le feu 😁 je voulais savoir si tu compte faire des vidéos en français à l'occasion du même genre ? Bravo sinon !

    • @Traque
      @Traque  5 лет назад +1

      Salut ! Merci !
      Je ne pense pas, j'essaie de faire en sorte que ça soit accessible à tout le monde donc l'anglais est la meilleure langue pour ça, je pourrais essayer d'ajouter des sous-titres fr dans youtube à la limite

  • @antoinegodin4229
    @antoinegodin4229 5 лет назад

    super video man :)

  • @kewlbfy
    @kewlbfy 5 лет назад

    what is the actual benefit of putting so much resources into a single wsg fight in order to grind the ranks (honor per minute wise)?

    • @Traque
      @Traque  5 лет назад

      Well if you only want to min max the honor you get out of bg's, you might as well just farm alterac and such on classic from what we've been told about the bg's.
      And well putting as much resources into warsong basically allows you to force your way to victory which is really good in terms of honor. (You get honor for each flag cap, +3 marks instead of 1 if you win)
      These type of games we usually happen to play on Henhouse rarely happens as if you're farming Warsong as a premade you won't meet other premades a lot, but when you do meet another premade, you need to be prepared to fight :D (or /afk and wait 15 minutes)

    • @kewlbfy
      @kewlbfy 5 лет назад

      @@Traque the usual fast wsg matches last 7 minutes, arathi 5 bases are done in 5 minutes. the bonus honor from a bg win is much higher than the honor you get from kills (since you get less honor killing the same players all over again). alterac was the best to get the most kills per time spent. however, in terms of honor, you had to go arathi/wsg to grind for ranks. grinding so many resources for pots and engineering could only be done during the night, when there were not enough players that a bg could open up.
      I did play 2x rank 14 in classic back, playing bgs from 11am-2am every day in the week whenever a bg opened. i can't remember that anyone of our team or the groups of the opposing factions ever had the time to farm so many resources to pull them on a regular basis. sure some pve groups here and then, seeing some thistle tea or slow fall reagiens was not uncommon. but when i see those guides nowadays i wonder if they are made for classic players?!

    • @Traque
      @Traque  5 лет назад

      You should easily be able to get all those consumables whether you rank to 14 or not, this can be done by either good planning or simply having connections.
      There's plenty of ways to make money, whether it is with the mafia, farming, or simply getting a lot of consumes ready before you actually start ranking very intensively. Especially if there is some downtime, it shouldn't be hard. Those consumes won't be worth a lot on AH as there will be plenty of them on sale.
      If you are actually tryharding, having a lot of consumes shouldn't be a big deal, it's really easy to get if you invest the time.

  • @mattsmovies5061
    @mattsmovies5061 5 лет назад

    What do you think of 21/30 down to scatter in marks with the rest in survival to get lightning reflexes?

    • @Traque
      @Traque  5 лет назад

      It can be worth it if you have a lot of gear, but you lose a lot of damage on multishot which I really don't like. It is to me the most important part of the hunter's kit in pvp. You get more crit but smaller damage etc which is not good either imo. 0/31/20 crits less but crits way harder

    • @jacobhall6801
      @jacobhall6801 5 лет назад

      As I have read, the build that goes down to lightning reflexes is very good in pve with 600+ agi. So it technically does more dps when reaching that agi goal. With that being said, 600+ agi is late raid so for a long while, lightning reflexes is not worth it

  • @Baracuda520
    @Baracuda520 5 лет назад

    What about best trinkets? There were none in the gear sheet.

    • @Traque
      @Traque  5 лет назад +1

      All of them are useful depending on the situation, might have to make a detailed guide about it

    • @Baracuda520
      @Baracuda520 5 лет назад

      @@Traque do it :)