Good clean bit of work Nath, kudos. Nice to see you at it :) For what it's worth mate I've seen a boatload of small hand vices (for a variety of purposes) using wingnuts. Considered how small the gap in the vice jaws would need to be to hold said items, then a wingnut with even a fine thread would need no more than a few turns to size and cinch up. More than fast enough for many generations of jewellers, watch makers, etc past and present. The simple fact of the matter is a wingnut is the predominant design for that style of hand vice and that was the style you were reproducing. You did a good job of it as well. I'd also point out that if it didn't use a thread (of some sort) in the closing and holding mechanism it wouldn't actually be a 'vice' in the first place, it'd be a 'clamp'. At least that's my understanding and the dictionary seems to agree with me on it.
No worries mate. I love informed or at least honest questions and constructive critique can lead to discussion and debate that can be illuminating but I just really can't abide 'know-nowts' (a lovely Yorkshire term that encompasses the sort of person who tells you exactly how you should be doing something, or precisely what your'e doing wrong, when clearly they couldn't do it themselves if their lives depended on it). Luckily you can usually stuff the body back under the bridge they crawled out from, after first beating them to death with the wet end of their own ignorance obviously. Do not feed the trolls my arse. Looking forward to seeing your next offering :)
@@ianlowe4666 Hope you are reading this up there matey. only just learned of your passing. pop by the workshop anytime im on the forge my friend i will light the fire and send you a signal each time. thank you for everything!! fly high my friend i think about you often 😇❤
Had to comment, even if you never see this I just want to say that this is such a phenomenally tasty piece of work you should be mega proud of! Thanks a million for sharing :D
Most amazing video of tool making I've ever seen, I've got stuck in front of my computer. No single word, but the demonstration is so clear and beautiful. And so is the result.
Marvelous work! Done with care and attention to detail without overdoing the 'fancy'. A well made tool meant to be used. I like it. Thanks for sharing.
That is another excellent black smithing video. I own and use several jewellers vises but not one as beautiful as this one. I admire your command of shape and form!
Awesome! I wish you were turning out videos more often. Top quality production, and I really like the quiet nature of the vids you make. Got that same stiff brush. Now I just need to get the skill you demonstrate! Keep up the great work. I'm really looking forward to the next video.
Thanks! I really want to do more regular videos and am pushing myself to get more regular with them, it's just finding time when nobody else is in the workshop with the music on, otherwise it would be a silent movie due to copyright issues.
@@workingwithiron I can understand that. The lack of vids just makes each one we do get a lot more precious! I'd also recommend you look into offering T-shirts with your logo on them. I did mine up at www.storefrontier.com/store/three-rivers-forge While I'm not nearly as famous as you and the other youtube smiths, I've found the shirts to be a great addition to my smithing "uniform" and anyone in the world can click on the link, buy one and help support what I do in some small way. Get some of your own in my size and I'd definitely buy a couple!
That's a great idea thank you! I will have to design some and see where I can get them made up. I've thought about getting work wear made before but never thought about it like that. Appreciate the idea!!
@@workingwithiron Glad I could help! I like the Store Frontier place because it's online-only and I'm not a penny unless I buy something. I tried Teespring in the past but found their sizes ran a bit small and were uncomfortable. I'm sure there's a British equivalent so you don't have to worry about international shipping.
@@threeriversforge1997 that's good to know. I would have to do both sides of the pond as most of my viewers are over there. I think only 4% of my viewers are British and over 60%are stateside.
Watchable at 2X speed. Tried three times to get through it at normal speed- fell asleep every time. This says more about me than the video. The work is well worth watching.
Great workmanship and detail an absolute work of art a tool to be cherished for a lifetime and then passed on to generations to come. I is a pleasure to watch you work and it easy to see the love you put into your work... Be well and be safe....
Awesome video! You never had to quench it right? I loved it when you made the wingnut, I am wanting to make one like it because I have some tools that are missing one and the replacement does not look good. Keep up the great work. Looking forward to your next one.
Thanks! I didn't no. But I did heat the loop/hole/springy bit with a short heat to open it up. If I used a spring steel I would have hardened and tempered it with a quench but I just wanted to forge the shape so used mild steel. Yeh I kind of winged it with the nut, I knew the shape I wanted but the size was difficult to achieve, just go bit by bit and keep repeating the method otherwise it is difficult to get right. Have fun with them, I'm sure they could be made fancy with some file work.
Brilliant. Like the comment about the Swedish blacksmith Torbjorn Ahman who I also think is the best on RUclips. You are in the same class! What kind of price would a tool like this cost?
Tal vez sería conveniente que calentara más su acero, para poder trabajar la piezas. Y, ayudaría también, el que mostrara, cómo se usa el maneral que fabricó. Gracias por compartir
Nice work all around, i used a cross slide to film my outro on the video i did before my last one, was still a little wobbly but much better than freehand
@@workingwithiron i thought you might have one already, i picked a cheap one up a while back, never planned to mount a camera to it but it works lol, love bristol by the way one of my favourite parts of the world, i had a cousin living in Avonmouth (passed away last year) who introduced me to some of the local history surrounding brunel, will have to get back over there oneday
@@techronmattic5876 I don't unfortunately, but I have a skateboard I may make a mount for, now you have mentioned it. I don't have much kit, just broken camera, mic and a home made led light. Bristol is a great city, and Brunel was a genius, so much inspiration around here to take in and adapt to smaller scale forgings. Glad you have experienced some of his wonder's.
Now this is excellent work no doubt. Question though: Can you tell me about that beautiful clamp you use while setting the jaws at around 20min in the video?
thank you, They are carver clamps, the most useful tool here, simple to use yet hold so tight. never used them before coming here but now i wouldnt use any other type of clamp.
Still curious about getting to "first thread". Is it possible to forge a functional "chaser" without using any threading tools? Or is making the first "rack" the easiest route to "first thread".
@@workingwithiron Just a thought experiment over "How do I get this far from nothing?" Staging up rocks, lumps of metal, crude hand hammer, crude anvil, hammer, many other things, anvil, seems fine (if extremely tedious and irritating). Even a power hammer is basically saving hours of hammering, but can be made if needed without threads.. But. The tap and die is difficult ... without some access to something threaded. There's a couple of ways to get that first threaded thing, but I was just curious about your thoughts, knowledge, or inclinations for how you'd tackle the problem in a forge. I'm more of a machinist, so I'd be inclined to making 'rack and pinion' arrangements, which just require files. A chaser is like a pie wedge of a die - that could be made with a file and isn't anywhere near as easy as a die to use.
@@workingwithiron I can picture making a functional vise without threads, but more interested in hearing how you'd tackle making a functional thread without a functional thread in a forge.
It's french chalk, I use files to sharpen them when marking out so it just gets left on there. Nothing to do with the job, but it does help keeping filings out of the files teeth.
Thanks. I did make the whole thing from mild steel. If I made another I would use stainless or some sort of spring steel as the mild doesn't really have the memory like spring steel does
Well isn’t that what they more or less did back in the day. They would use a mild steel ( or raw iron) body, and then a tool steel like face for the anvil. And I thought you couldn’t forge stainless steel.
Greetings chapa! It is for holding small items that may be hot, or difficult to get in a regular vise or to work at an angle, such as filing holes or edges. Usually jewellery size work.
Сделано отлично! Но мне кажется, что внизу уместнее было бы сделать шарнир, а не пружинящее кольцо. По принципу стуловых тисков, только меньше размером :)
Good clean bit of work Nath, kudos. Nice to see you at it :)
For what it's worth mate I've seen a boatload of small hand vices (for a variety of purposes) using wingnuts. Considered how small the gap in the vice jaws would need to be to hold said items, then a wingnut with even a fine thread would need no more than a few turns to size and cinch up. More than fast enough for many generations of jewellers, watch makers, etc past and present.
The simple fact of the matter is a wingnut is the predominant design for that style of hand vice and that was the style you were reproducing. You did a good job of it as well.
I'd also point out that if it didn't use a thread (of some sort) in the closing and holding mechanism it wouldn't actually be a 'vice' in the first place, it'd be a 'clamp'. At least that's my understanding and the dictionary seems to agree with me on it.
Thanks Ian, always appreciate your feedback and knowledge. Learned something new today, thanks for sharing!
No worries mate. I love informed or at least honest questions and constructive critique can lead to discussion and debate that can be illuminating but I just really can't abide 'know-nowts' (a lovely Yorkshire term that encompasses the sort of person who tells you exactly how you should be doing something, or precisely what your'e doing wrong, when clearly they couldn't do it themselves if their lives depended on it). Luckily you can usually stuff the body back under the bridge they crawled out from, after first beating them to death with the wet end of their own ignorance obviously. Do not feed the trolls my arse.
Looking forward to seeing your next offering :)
@@ianlowe4666 Hope you are reading this up there matey. only just learned of your passing. pop by the workshop anytime im on the forge my friend i will light the fire and send you a signal each time. thank you for everything!! fly high my friend i think about you often 😇❤
Had to comment, even if you never see this I just want to say that this is such a phenomenally tasty piece of work you should be mega proud of! Thanks a million for sharing :D
Most amazing video of tool making I've ever seen, I've got stuck in front of my computer. No single word, but the demonstration is so clear and beautiful. And so is the result.
🙂Thank you! Means a lot!
Video and forging reminiscent of Torbjorn Ahman. This is intended as high praise, as I consider his work to be the best on RUclips.
si... un tributo al maestro
Sir you are one hell of a Black Smith i will only be half you are Awesome work GOD BLESS
Definitely something I would use for the decades it would last and then some. Awesome job!👍
A true craftsman! Really like how you showed us what was going on throughout the video. Great work!
Thank you!
Marvelous work! Done with care and attention to detail without overdoing the 'fancy'. A well made tool meant to be used. I like it. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you, you are very welcome!
Great film-making, you make it very clear what you're doing (and why) without any need for commentary or subtitles
Thanks! I do miss the narration though but if people like this style I don't mind Keeping the waffle down 😂
Finest workmanship I have seen so far from any of the many videos I've watched. I look forward to others, thank you.
Thanks, that means a lot!
Nathan , I now know where you have been. Perfecting your chops. Most definitely the smartest move you could make. Bravo. I am now a life time fan.
I'm working on it John 🙂 trying to be less boring without speeding anything up. Hopefully it gets better the more I practice with editing.
I watched the entire thing start to finish - mesmerizing. You are quite the craftsman. Thanks.
thank you!
Beautiful! Well done, sir. I would be proud to have that vise sitting on my jeweler's bench.
Who lurks in they shadows....Good job Mister Nathan. Very neat forging.
Thank you!
Just awesome! The skill you have is incredible! Well done!
Nice, we’ve missed you! I need to see more videos from you. You and Technicus Joe are my inspiration!
I've missed making them. Really want to do this full time but have to learn to say no to working for others.
That is another excellent black smithing video. I own and use several jewellers vises but not one as beautiful as this one. I admire your command of shape and form!
Thanks for the kind words!
How is this vise actually used?
Fabulous job, and no doubt the nicest wing nut I have ever seen.
too kind! thank you
Awesome! I wish you were turning out videos more often. Top quality production, and I really like the quiet nature of the vids you make.
Got that same stiff brush. Now I just need to get the skill you demonstrate!
Keep up the great work. I'm really looking forward to the next video.
Thanks! I really want to do more regular videos and am pushing myself to get more regular with them, it's just finding time when nobody else is in the workshop with the music on, otherwise it would be a silent movie due to copyright issues.
@@workingwithiron I can understand that. The lack of vids just makes each one we do get a lot more precious!
I'd also recommend you look into offering T-shirts with your logo on them. I did mine up at www.storefrontier.com/store/three-rivers-forge
While I'm not nearly as famous as you and the other youtube smiths, I've found the shirts to be a great addition to my smithing "uniform" and anyone in the world can click on the link, buy one and help support what I do in some small way.
Get some of your own in my size and I'd definitely buy a couple!
That's a great idea thank you! I will have to design some and see where I can get them made up. I've thought about getting work wear made before but never thought about it like that. Appreciate the idea!!
@@workingwithiron Glad I could help! I like the Store Frontier place because it's online-only and I'm not a penny unless I buy something. I tried Teespring in the past but found their sizes ran a bit small and were uncomfortable.
I'm sure there's a British equivalent so you don't have to worry about international shipping.
@@threeriversforge1997 that's good to know. I would have to do both sides of the pond as most of my viewers are over there. I think only 4% of my viewers are British and over 60%are stateside.
Absolutely love your videos, they are so helpful and enjoyable! Thanks for making them!
That makes it worth my time and effort, thank you for your kind words!
Love the inner tube trick, peachy!
It works really well! Motorbike inner tubes work best if you are going to use any!
Amazing it's a shame I can only give you one thumbs up for such prodigious skill
comment is plenty good for me Tim, thank you!
Only a watchmaker works as precise as you. Very aesthetic work
Thank you, i wish i was that precise... maybe one day!
Great work. We shared this video on our homemade tools forum this week 😎
Awesome! Thank you really appreciate it!
Watchable at 2X speed. Tried three times to get through it at normal speed- fell asleep every time. This says more about me than the video. The work is well worth watching.
haha i know what you mean, thank you!
hermoso trabajo -- es un placer verlo trabajar -- gracias por mostrar estas cosas tan lindas
I had to watch this twice. This is masterful.
Thank you! Makes all the hours I put into it worthwhile, glad you enjoyed it!!
Great video. I didn't even know I needed one of these. Not I need to build one.
I am one of your most admirers and I wish you success
Blessed to have you Zaed!
Nice work, Nathan!
Thank you!
That was a very nice build sir! Well done!
Thank you! Really enjoyed making this one!
i can feel the touch of everyting in the shop just by watching
love that! thank you!
Now, don't start to haunt the shop. 😅😅😅
Great looking tool! Nice work, and thank you for sharing!
Thank you! You are welcome!
Great workmanship and detail an absolute work of art a tool to be cherished for a lifetime and then passed on to generations to come. I is a pleasure to watch you work and it easy to see the love you put into your work... Be well and be safe....
Thank you! It certainly will be around a lot long than me hopefully!
Beautiful work...I'd love to have one of those.
Thanks! Have a go at making one or you can pick them up cheap enough. Just search 19th century jeweler's hand vise.
you are a good one sir,thanks for letting me ride along
you are very welcome! thank you!
You got incredible control of your power hammer.
She is a beauty! thank you!
Beautiful work
Thank you!
Very nice work. Keep it up.
Thank you, will do!
I love your work and process
Thanks! Much appreciated!
This is an artwork. Awesome.
Bravo. Very fine tool.
Thank you!
hermozo trabajo... super fino... me encanto... te felisito
Wanna know an even better trick for the loose hardy shank.... There is not one. Top notch genius enginuity there
Excellent work 👍🏻
Thanks Philip!
Excellent work!
Thank you!
Awesome video! You never had to quench it right? I loved it when you made the wingnut, I am wanting to make one like it because I have some tools that are missing one and the replacement does not look good. Keep up the great work. Looking forward to your next one.
Thanks! I didn't no. But I did heat the loop/hole/springy bit with a short heat to open it up. If I used a spring steel I would have hardened and tempered it with a quench but I just wanted to forge the shape so used mild steel. Yeh I kind of winged it with the nut, I knew the shape I wanted but the size was difficult to achieve, just go bit by bit and keep repeating the method otherwise it is difficult to get right. Have fun with them, I'm sure they could be made fancy with some file work.
Excellent work
thank you!!
phenomenal video
thanks @louis, much appreciated!
Another great video, most excellent!
Thanks! I read that in a bill and Ted voice 😂
Beautiful work!
Thanks!
Nice work.
thanks white beard!
Great work. Great content.
Thank you!
Nice! Needs your touch mark. More videos like this, please.
I have one but it's too big for small items so will have to make a smaller version.
Real nice,love it,thanks.
Thank you kindly!
Brilliant. Like the comment about the Swedish blacksmith Torbjorn Ahman who I also think is the best on RUclips. You are in the same class! What kind of price would a tool like this cost?
Might find it handy
Thanks well shown
Thanks john!
WOW ... FREAKSHOW PORN IRON FORGE ORCHESTRAL HAMMERING.
Once I seen that anvil.... I subscribed.
~ drools heavily~
Haha thanks! Appreciate the subscription, welcome!!
A Masterpiece.
Amazing video
Much appreciated 👍 thanks for the kind words
Muy bueno , tenés algún vídeo del soplete que usas , saludos desde argentina
Great work, bravo.
Thank you!
Magnifique travail.
Very nice work! felicitaciones.
Thank you!
Tal vez sería conveniente que calentara más su acero, para poder trabajar la piezas.
Y, ayudaría también, el que mostrara, cómo se usa el maneral que fabricó.
Gracias por compartir
¿qué parte?
@@workingwithiron dónde empezó a forjar, al principio, que el acero vaya más caliente.
Gracias
Nice work all around, i used a cross slide to film my outro on the video i did before my last one, was still a little wobbly but much better than freehand
Thanks! It's on the to make/buy list after a new computer and camera and lighting and.......
@@workingwithiron i thought you might have one already, i picked a cheap one up a while back, never planned to mount a camera to it but it works lol, love bristol by the way one of my favourite parts of the world, i had a cousin living in Avonmouth (passed away last year) who introduced me to some of the local history surrounding brunel, will have to get back over there oneday
@@techronmattic5876 I don't unfortunately, but I have a skateboard I may make a mount for, now you have mentioned it. I don't have much kit, just broken camera, mic and a home made led light. Bristol is a great city, and Brunel was a genius, so much inspiration around here to take in and adapt to smaller scale forgings. Glad you have experienced some of his wonder's.
Now this is excellent work no doubt. Question though: Can you tell me about that beautiful clamp you use while setting the jaws at around 20min in the video?
thank you, They are carver clamps, the most useful tool here, simple to use yet hold so tight. never used them before coming here but now i wouldnt use any other type of clamp.
NICE ONE JEFF
cheers dude!
Nice Job!
Thank you!
Still curious about getting to "first thread". Is it possible to forge a functional "chaser" without using any threading tools? Or is making the first "rack" the easiest route to "first thread".
Apologies first but I have no idea what you wrote here?? 🤪 Sounds like a baseball move...
@@workingwithiron Just a thought experiment over "How do I get this far from nothing?" Staging up rocks, lumps of metal, crude hand hammer, crude anvil, hammer, many other things, anvil, seems fine (if extremely tedious and irritating). Even a power hammer is basically saving hours of hammering, but can be made if needed without threads.. But. The tap and die is difficult ... without some access to something threaded.
There's a couple of ways to get that first threaded thing, but I was just curious about your thoughts, knowledge, or inclinations for how you'd tackle the problem in a forge. I'm more of a machinist, so I'd be inclined to making 'rack and pinion' arrangements, which just require files. A chaser is like a pie wedge of a die - that could be made with a file and isn't anywhere near as easy as a die to use.
@@shrikedecil to recreate the job of the tool?? Or we trying to figure out how to make a thread without a tap and die?
@@workingwithiron I can picture making a functional vise without threads, but more interested in hearing how you'd tackle making a functional thread without a functional thread in a forge.
Outstanding!
Thanks!
Es un trabajo super fino.
gracias amigo
it's damn beautiful, from Russia With love !
благодарю вас!
This is very nice
Thank you!
Beautiful!
Thanks!
Este cara merece mesmo se dar bem na vida. Que puta trabalho maravilhoso. Abraço aos brazucas.
Gorgeous.
thank you!
Very very nice!
Thanks Alice!
@@workingwithiron No problem
That is... beautiful and such a functional piece as well.
Yeap, I'm subbing.
Much appreciated! hope you enjoy the videos!
I want to make one👍 iv always wanted to make a mini leg vise. Great video and awsome finish work. What did you use for your finish coat???
did you make one? briwax was the final finish, applied hot but not too hot, enough to soak in. then wipe off.
What is that white powder that you use in your files?
It's french chalk, I use files to sharpen them when marking out so it just gets left on there. Nothing to do with the job, but it does help keeping filings out of the files teeth.
Beautiful work. Now did you make that whole thing out of mild steel?
Thanks. I did make the whole thing from mild steel. If I made another I would use stainless or some sort of spring steel as the mild doesn't really have the memory like spring steel does
Well isn’t that what they more or less did back in the day. They would use a mild steel ( or raw iron) body, and then a tool steel like face for the anvil. And I thought you couldn’t forge stainless steel.
Well done!
thanks!
...a real "Jewel" of a work!!!! Brilliant!!! ( ok two puns in one sentence probably too much!) :D
Thank you! Can never have enough puns, keep them coming 😂
Hahahha...ok challenge accepted! :)
Much gratitude
Thanks for watching!
👍👌
a question, what is it for? greetings from Argentina
Greetings chapa! It is for holding small items that may be hot, or difficult to get in a regular vise or to work at an angle, such as filing holes or edges. Usually jewellery size work.
Сделано отлично! Но мне кажется, что внизу уместнее было бы сделать шарнир, а не пружинящее кольцо. По принципу стуловых тисков, только меньше размером :)
Just artist, thank you for sharing
Thank you!
Very nice work! Will this be for a future project?
Thanks! I may use it now I have it. I really want to do some repousse so may use it for that!
Superb
Thanks!
Super 👍
Ok I have a bad case of anvil envy!!
She is a beauty, bloody loud though! 😂
If I was a small amount of that good it would be awesome.
I'm sure you are doing great! Just keep at it and it'll all work out!
Dude, that turned out super sexy, great shape and detailing
Thanks man! That's why I wanted to make it, the shapes are like you say super sexy!!
Are you a member of the Company of Blacksmiths?
I'm not a member of any organisation.
Bonito trabajo
Thank you!
Beautiful! Almost looks machined
Thanks! That's what I aim for when forging. Sort of contradicts itself but I enjoy the challenge.
34/5000
While you're working, I'm listening Bach - Aria mit 30 Veränderungen Goldberg Variations BWV 988 - Rondeau
Nice job dude are you uk based?
Thanks! I am UK based.