@@JoelBranam like I’m fine with him exposing game decisions because that’s what he’s meant to do. But bringing up her weight in front of a live audience and DEMANDING an answer?? So distasteful
Ahahaha😭😭You guys Would be bad at survivor to even Think of choosing Courtney over Rob or Tyson. But I get it. You guys like her as person. She's Really funny I'll give her that. Especially when she's on the Jurry watching the tribals.
@Eli Williams news Flash Courtney Would vote an ally out too. She just never got the chance too. Bc she's bad at the game anyways. What exactly is wrong with wanting power in survivor? Having Power Mean you can control Your game and not be a Goat like Courtney. That's what she is a Goat. GOATS don't deserve to win this game. You gotta actually play the game. You guys sound like children. I will agree thought that Rob plays the kind of game where It either Works 100% or it Fails Badly. No one is Truly Loyal in survivor. You can only Have One winner so if your in alliance with 5 people Only 2 or sometimes 1 of them will Last and that's only If Y'all have the numbers and have a core 3 or 2. And That's the thing it's ricksy asf to sit at the finals with someone you Started day 1 with bc. Y'all basically would have the same resume and Level of Power in the game. UNLESS you outshine them and was the one taking the shots. And that's usually what happens. For example Wendall & Dom were loyal to each other but technically give them any opportunity to vote each other out and they'd do it. And guess what In the end they LITERALLY Tied. Yall need to watch the game with more than just Feelings and who you like and start Seeing who actually plays a Good game. Corutney Is just a TV Player. She's funny asl and HAS to be loyal bc she can't take the power role in the game snf everyone is after her bc of how weak she is. So whoever does mess with her for her personality ofc she'll be Loyal. For example HvV. Sandra was really her only ally hence why she stuck with her. Good day
@@sockmonkeyjg ok i pretty some person would come here and said natalie did played a good gane and should win waw at some point,So i just gotta leave this here. Natalie got voted out first come back at day 36 only actually played for 6 days,Idol/immunity her way to the top.
Michelle’s own experience arguably shows gender bias. She got a lot of crap for her win, but at least she knew what was going on, unlike Fabio in Nicaragua. I loved Bob in Gabon, but he had terrible FTC and kinda drifted to the end. Her WaW game could be compared to Jay in MvG. He was on the wrong side of the numbers and even a bit of a jerk and a bully when Taylor was still in the game. With the help of an idols and some immunity wins, he was a threat to win. Michelle was never a jerk and was on the right side of the vote at least a few times, but was seen as a goat. There have also been players like Pascal in Marquesas, Butch in Amazon, and Keith in San Juan Del Sur who had zero strategy but were threats to win like Fabio and Bob because they were likable. They were threats to win over women with game.
@@josabby474 i did feel bad for michelle because of this, she really did struggle through and did deserve some votes more than natalie for sure which i will address in a minute to the other person
@@miz_flamingo1470 im glad you did because proving that she didnt really play a good game is a great pasttime of mine 1) if she was being graded on EoE performance then she would have won, but EoE is only an aspect of the season WaW and it is important to consider that 2) EoE only really works in this season because almost all the winners were popular so people wanted to see more, but its survivor jr really, there is no aspect that gets your voted out, you vote yourself out so there is no real danger to it, ontop of it you get to get launched into a ongoing survivor game where you have seen all the moves played, alliances drawn etc so you can see where to insert yourself (and most of the people who had the best odds in returning had an hidden immunity idol) so its a pretty safe bet if you run the odds that the person coming back gets to final 3) all of their achievements mean nothing because (as natalie pointed out) everyone knew who was the running the show and leaving him in the game was tandament to losing 4) while there isnt alot of social game on EoE it was noted that (especially near the end) people began to notice natalie sneaking off and distancing herself from key jurors like amber who had been their for a very long time and should have at least had some comradery with them 5) BUT THE KEY ISSUE is that ANYTHING NAT does is negated by her winning the challenge and then chickening out to avoid taking tony head to head... she honestly should have understood that anything other than tony being slain by her is a loss (sarah takes him out and she gets the credit for it netting her the win, michelle takes him out and she gets credit for the kill) you can play the best game in the world but a dire mistake like that negates everything that player has does
I agree. Cagayan she was painfully ignorant GC she was boring af and WaW she basically was Amanda 2.0 and played with someone who for sure was gonna beat her in the end
Oh how I haaaated this tribal. It was literally infuriating to listen to Sarah act as if she's been valiantly fighting for women's rights her whole life 🥴 people didn't dislike her because she was a woman, they didn't like her because she sucks as a human 💀
I really dont like Sarah, shes a massive hypocrite. She constantly talks about how Tony betrayed their alliance in Cagayan yet theres footage of her talking about voting Tony off. She would've done the same thing in his position so i dont see why she acts like a victim.
Yeah like i was confused when Sarah brought up Tony "betraying" her in Cagayan despite the Cops R us alliance like... Weren't you both part of opposing alliances?
worst of all she is a huge MAGA Trump supporter, yet claims to be a hardcore feminist, and complains about bias against women!?!? The two together are not impossible. If you support Trump fine, but atleast don't look like a hypocritical idiot.
It's hard to determine intentions with Sarah's WaW speech about bias in the game towards women. Her statements are absolutely true, though I think Kass talking about it with Tony in Cagayan was more apt to the scenario she was in and had a greater impact to the viewer. It's hard to not feel like Jeff leans in to these types of talks at tribals as of late; it's hard to tell if it's genuine, related to his guilt for being prejudiced against certain types of players in the past, or just convenient. At any rate, I really do think Survivor has a history of baseline misogyny and unwelcome attitudes to poc and those who identify as anything but a cis white American. I think it's a good thing to have diversity. When these issues are talked about every single week it feels both self-congratulatory and an attempt to dissolve any social issues or biases with orchestrated monologues rather than organically in the game.
Very well put together. The "new" Jeff and CBS is purely for public relations and profits. Survivor is a show and money is ALWAYS the businesses goal, dont get fooled people.
Her statement is completely false lol, the most hated contestants for being liars are literally all cis white men. This anti white male propaganda on survivor is a joke and insulting to every real victim of racism/discrimination. Which you clearly are not.
I am laughing like an idiot for like 3 minutes at this. I get what he is trying to say, more cynical people cannot empathize until you ask them to imagine their loved ones being the ones that are wronged, but it still is hilarious to read it this. :))
@A Nigerian ninja I think Sarah was going to vote off Tony at 5 but he won immunity so I think she would've voted him out because he was the last jury threat
This is perfect. Saw a similar video of the clip where Jeff swears off saying "guys" and then says it about 30 times in season 41 lol. What a bunch of ridiculous posturing
this is pretty much total speculation but i 100% believe the whole not saying "guys" was jeff's idea to make the show seem more progressive but production coaxed ricard into bringing it up in case there was backlash (which there was) so the backlash wouldn't all be on jeff. like it's just the most performative thing ever especially since he keeps saying it lol
Her and J’Tia might be the only ones still to come off clean from that tribe. Kass of all people. Maybe David Samson bc he was such a good sport about being voted off.
Uh Danielle threatened to sue CBS after they almost let Amanda keep the reward advantage, so I understand his frustration with her, but Courtney did not deserve any of that. But Jeff has grown as a person and would never do that today.
I was cringing so fucking hard during the tribal with Kellee, because EARLIER THAT DAY all the women were together on the beach and the idea of an all women's alliance was brought up as a possibility. Then later that night they all act like it's the most offensive and unreasonable thing in the world for a man to consider the possibility...
I really would love to see all three of them play again! Especially the girls. the way Kelle was treated was disgusting and I hated seeing how Janet was treated as well.
1:34 Ben isn't being hypocritical here, he's right about Chrissy. Chrissy wanted and expected everyone to make decisions based on her will. Every time someone else didn't vote with Chrissy, Chrissy was an unnecessarily a prick about it that implied that other people can't play the game as they see fit.
Similar to Sarah, if he was genuine and actually knew wtf he was talking about, then he would actually own up to his previous misdeeds and say specific times where he had the bias but alas
Kass is eighth especially because at the time of 2014 the huge anti-feminism/incel movement started to gain traction and the comments she got was pretty disgusting. Meanwhile a lot of rude and sexist comments spencer made (specifically the playing with her estrogen) then were made out to be so funny by the fanboys, Kass made one comment about how college age men act like beasts and she was annihilated. I find it funny the amount of love someone like spencer gets when I think he has just as poor of social skills (second chances shows this) as her at times vs Kass. She makes a great point, yeah Kass can be a bit mean and lack self awareness but there is some truth to her point.
She made a similar disparaging comment to Spencer about guys, its literally 1:1 and later in Ponderosa said the it was sexism that didn't get her game recognized, lol, the delusion and hypocrisy in playing the sexism card after making sexist remarks. She was toxic as fuck with zero social game and kept backstabbing people. She was delusional to think she ever had a chance, Woo would have swooped her in FTC, thats how disliked she was by everyone on the jury. They didn't even talk with her when she was eliminated, everyone was ignoring her and I can guarantee you it had nothing to do with what was between her legs. But its up to par for other toxic accountability adverse people to pick her as their girl boss champion, I guess. I also find it funny the amount of love someone like Kass seems to get, see how it is? People can like what they like and find funny what they find funny, its only one that gets to play the victim card and its seen as brave and worthy of applause by society by acting like the victim and spoiler alert, its not Spencer.
I'm not sure I find it hypocritical. I know Sarah had her own biases in the past, but I feel like the reason she brought it up during Winners at War was because she had grown as a person in the years since she first played, and she realized those biases were wrong, not because she's a hypocrite :P
Personally I find it incredibly irritating cuz literally the entire game she's basically playing with Tony and is totally fine with going to the end with him even tho it's obvious af that he's gonna beat her and then when things don't go her way when Natalie tells her the Jury consensus from EoE she pulls a half hearted sjw speech and it leaves such a sour taste in my mouth.
If that's the case, I think it would have been great if she acknowledged her own biases in the past. It may be the way it was presented in the edit, but the episode makes it look like this is her putting down other people with these biases (likely in order to boost her chances of beating Tony in the end), rather than acknowledging her own biases and newfound growth.
@@eagerturtle4791 I haven't watched the episode in a while, but I wouldn't be surprised if that's how it was presented. I think it's just a tricky subject because I agree with Sarah's premise, but I certainly don't believe she deserved to win Winners At War. I still think she likely intended to point out bias in everyone, including herself, but I can see a world where she ignores her own biases based on arrogance. :P will have to rewatch to fully affirm my feelings on the matter
It's weird because ben's feeling male guilt for Tony beating Sarah while Ben was aligned with Sarah the whole game and wouldn't have got a single vote against her
@@10secondlaughs96 Apparently ben wanted jeremy to be his #1 on day 1 then caught jeremy mocking him behind his back and then didnt trust him. When natalie got back in at final 6, she said she wanted ben out bc he would beat anyone at fire but she shouldve used him to beat tony and then she would've won.
@@MP-ef9yo Yeah he saw Jeremy make a gesture to the camera and assumed it was about him and had a temper tantrum in a 2 million dollar game. Weird move but his life
@@MP-ef9yo I doubt Ben would actually try to beat Tony in fire I bet he would throw the fire making challenge just like he threw in the towel at 5 for Sarah
Tbf.. at least Sarah seemed to change her opinions in a good way lol if she had said that stuff about gender biases BEFORE bashing Kass, that would have been absolute clear-cut hypocrisy. But in this case.. I think its more like she just grew and matured a little over the years.
She hasn't changed shit, LOL! She is a huge Trump supporter and wore a MAGA hat at Ponderosa, AFTER this speech. This speech was full of shit and in no way conforms to any of her true beliefs. It was simply desperation since she was told Tony had the edge on her in a jury vote, and she wasn't willing to betray Tony due to their friendship.
Sarah got blindsided by Tony on Sophie vote out, got handed a resume by Ben, refused to split the votes at 6 like an idiot… arguably the most overrated player of the season
Also girls: "Shouldn't we be looking for idols or doing anything of value instead of sitting in the water?" "Nahhh let Tony do everything and say its sexism!"
I don’t agree with all the Tony examples. To ignore the possibility of a women’s alliance simply because it sounds sexist is silly and just wrong. Women’s alliances are a thing to worry about in the game of survivor and is a legitimate thing to watch out for just the same as men’s alliances. I’m sorry but I’m not going to simply disregard it because it might be considered sexist when $1 million is on the line.
Being honest and speaking facts turning into false and blind ass kissing isn’t a positive change lol it’s just a bunch of people being fake around each other. People just need to grow up and learn to take criticism without making it seem like someone is being biased towards them. That goes for both men and women. All genders are equal, doesn’t matter what you identify with. It’s about you as an individual and how you behave. But of course the actions of others like you can have an influence on others’ perceptions of you. That’s how everyone’s personalities are created lol. It’s all based on past experiences. And it’s also up to you to learn to perceive others based on how they behave and not how others did. It’s kinda complicated but it’s also pretty simple at the same time depending on how open or closed minded you are. Idc either way I just wanna see people playing great games and putting on a great show without having to hear any whining or complaining from anybody (men or women) about fair or unfair.
I mean Kass got an incredible amount of hate from basically everybody that season for trying to make moves. Idk if it’s because she’s a woman or not, but it makes sense that she’d think that.
Wait.. didn't Jeff say that if you looked back at everything he's said over years, surely you'd find some things wrong..? Lol that's literally the opposite of being a hypocrite. Did I misunderstand what he said?
Almost 7 years is the gap from where Sarah first played in Cagayan vs her speech in WaW. A lot can happen in 7 years which includes self reflection and giving more thought to things especially since you won a million dollars, it gives you more avenues to think outside what you really are. That aside, I still cringed lmao but the benefit of doubt is still there that hey, maybe she did change her thinking loool.
2:16 I have to be honest with you all, I'm not crazy about Kellee. She was the hero in the season, and she did do the right thing by standing up against Dan, but Janet and Jamal were also heroes and I preferred them by quite a bit. Has she seen Micronesia? All girls alliances were a thing and there's no reason to conclude that it couldn't happen again. Just because society is shifting doesn't mean there's no chance people won't temporarily choose to go back to the old way of doing things. I really respect her for speaking out against Dan, but I have to be honest, I think living on an island with her for 39 days would borderline intolerable. Janet and Jamal no issue whatsoever.
2:32-2:39 "The amount of fear that there's a women's alliance, outpaces the times that there's been a women's alliance". So you're still acknowledging they have existed though? That's like saying the amount of fear get paranoid about car crashes outpaces the number of times there are accidents...If Tony and Woo don't recognize the women's alliance might happen they probably don't get to the end of that game.
Sarah had changed after playing and seeing herself the first time. She criticized Tony for swearing on his badge, then played like him and game changers. She also became friends with Lass. Tony and Sarah were also enemies that became friends. Ben had a contentious relationship with Krissy in HHH, but he had very close friendships with Sophie, Sarah, and Denise in WaW. If the clips had been flash forwards instead of flashbacks, I’d say it was hypocritical, but as it stands, it looks like growth: often the reason that people play: aside from winning. But maybe the title is sarcasm like many other videos of yours. One instance of gender bias from Probst was from the MvG reunion when he criticized Figgy for having a showmance, but talked about how beautiful it was that Taylor had a new baby instead of criticizing him for getting a girl pregnant then having a showmance. One of the most hypocritical players ever: JT Thomas. He said never ever ever trust a woman when he was voted out of HvV. Um which woman did he trust? Sandra when she warned then about Russell? Cirie when he voted her out? Amanda when she didn’t want him to give away the idol? Candace when she showed a brain and he stirred up paranoia for her? In Tocancins, he worked with nerdy and not Uber macho Stephen, Taj- a woman, and Erin-a woman. He over cam a 2-1 numbers disadvantage and won by working with a nerdy city boy and two women. HvV he calls himself, Tom, Colby and James the good guys and gets beguiled by Uber macho southern guy Russell and screws up the games of all the heroes with his bias. Game Changers, he’s beguiled by Uber macho Southern guy Brad Culpepper and screws up Malcolm’s game. And Apparently he told people not to trust Cirie when he was the one that betrayed her. Ozzy actually worked with Cirie in Gamechangers and she had voted him out in Micronesia. There’s some hypocrisy. JT had the opposite of growth in his seasons.
@G R his working with the Uber macho guys alone would not have been a problem, but the fact that it blew up his game as well as the games of his Allies and he blamed women that he never actually trusted in the first place and the fact that he was the one to betray Cirie in HvV and told people not to trust her in Game Changers while he himself had been sketchy AF both of his previous seasons shows that he’s a chauvinist with his head up his own butt loving the smell of his own farts. Did you miss the part where I talked about Tony and Ben showing growth or did you just focus on the one sentence about JT?
There IS a bias, especially coming from Jeff, but this is such a wrong time. I think Sarah's Game Changers game was great, but Tony is the GOAT. Sometimes the best wins, if it's a man or a woman.
I don’t think Sarah was being hypocritical, per say. I think she has just changed as a person and grown as a Survivor player. I mean she had to right. I mean her first time around she was the merge boot, and then the second time around she won, and third time she made it to day 38 where if she made it to the end she probably would have won. Would it have been better if she maybe quoted on her words previously, probably and maybe made a public apology to Kass, but season 28 and season 40 are filmed many years apart, and a person can grow a lot in that time.
While it is easy to pull these clips out of context, we do have to remember that most of these people played for the first time over a decade before hand, in a very different social landscape. Sarah in specific in just her 2nd season talked about how the first time she played was like a cop. With integrity, honesty, and respect. And it got her nowhere. All of her old confessionals are extremely hypocritical *because* she learned how to play the game and grew as a person. And everyone there have clearly grown as players and as people. If being better than you were makes you a hypocrite, everyone should be one. It is okay to grow and evolve as a person, especially if it's correcting years of bad behavior.
I hate the argument "we have sisters, we have mothers, think of them and know that women are capable!" Maybe just respect women, regardless of whether or not you have a sister??
imo the most hypocritical FTC was the Phillippines. those people were SO bitter and didnt really have any real reason to be. very few of them were even betrayed or blindsided in the first place. furthermore pete/abi/artis had all gone out of their way after the merge to be antagonistic to the minority alliance that eventually went on to beat them fair and square. malcolm was literally mad at denise for convincing skupin to take her over him like she was supposed to accept defeat and not try to win
I just hate it when some women uses sexism as a way to navigate themselves from being seen as a horrible person. Kass is a horrible person and not just because she's playing a game. I don't think even Russell was as rude as her and Russell is consistently ranked among the most evil players ever. Meanwhile where is Kass right now? No one even remembers her anymore, while Russell is still hated to this day. She got away with being evil much more easier than Russell did and yet here she is playing the victim role. The majority of women aren't like that, but a pretty big percentage of them are. If you did something that wasn't nice. Own up to your faults. Its a game, tell people you did what you have to do, move on and if in the process you did something terrible, apologize. There is no need to play the victim card.
She voted for Trump and wore a MAGA hat to the final dinner at Ponderosa in Game Changers. Not sure how that aligns with her growth and her women's empowerment speech
@@MP-ef9yo Damn people are so obsessed with other peoples’ political views, it’s crazy. You do realize you can support Trump and be empowered as a woman, right? Or does your own political opinions cloud your judgement? It amazes me how much some fans despise contestants for their political beliefs. Some of my favorites are on the opposite spectrum of me and that’s fine.
Umm… I didn’t get all the way through this video, but is it *possible* that a person can say one thing and years later realize that their opinion was kind of shitty? I guess I keep forgetting that once you say one thing on camera, you have to commit to said idea until the day you die. Heaven forbid someone has a change of heart on anything or evolve as a human. I also say this as someone who never had Sarah amongst my favorites, but respect the hell out of her effectiveness as a player. I guess some viewers were expecting a formal apology to Kass during this TC for her words to have any merit/sincerity.
Oh please, your points would be correct overall as a general rule, but lets be real Sarah is one of the most self serving, hypocritical humans alive, and anyone who is familiar with her at all knows the last thing she would ever be is some pro woman feminist. And knows she was only serving up that argument in desperation, since she was told Tony had the edge on her in a jury vote, otherwise such a thing would never have come up. Which is fine, it is strategy, but lets also be real. And she can be a great Survivor player, and all that still be true.
While what Kass and Sarah are saying is correct, I don’t think it applies to them specifically. Kass’ game in Cagayan was cutthroat but unlike Tony, she had no social game at all. Tony was crazy and blunt too but he still had his close personal connections like with Woo and Trish. Kass didn’t try to make anyone like her, I mean she flipped off a juror on their way out at final 5. That shows immaturity and unnecessary pettiness in front of the entire rest of the jury, no matter what gender you are that’s an absolutely stupid move that displays your appalling lack of social awareness. If you want a real, hard hitting case of sexism in Survivor brutally affecting a well meaning female contestant, the best example you will find is Jerri Manthey and Colby Donaldson. Despite every other confessional from Colby being him shit talking and disrespecting everything about Jerris character, and despite every Jerri confessional being respectful towards Colby until he eventually backstabs her, the general viewing audience pegged her as the heartless villain and Colby as the great all american cowboy hero. The viewing audience saw Jerri as a manipulative, cold hearted bitch because she saw that Survivor is a game of alliances and numbers while Colby would say he’s here for the adventure and flash a pearly white smile to the cameras. Colby would later reveal he did all this purposefully to hopefully kickstart a hollywood acting or hosting career. Despite Colby being the one to backstab Jerri, not the other way around, this followed Jerri to all stars where yet again Colby disrespected her at every chance he got which ironically lead to her voting him out. She was booed out of the building at the reunion and at her next appearance was put on the Villains tribe with Colby on the Heroes. These attempts at using this issue to rewrite the narrative of their shortcomings by Kass and Sarah hurt the women who actually do fully experience this problem. The jurors didn’t respect Kass because she didn’t respect them or even attempt to pretend to, it wasn’t because she was a woman.
Yeah but if you listen to Sarah’s reasoning there is a clear gender bias. She starts off by saying kass is a mother and then calls her a liar, that’s clear gender bias and enforces the idea older women are supposed to be caring and loyal.
Let's be fair to Sarah. She said that stuff about lying in the game 6 years before she said the stuff about gender bias. Same with Tony. Calling someone a hypocrite for something they said in the past is just childish.
@@secondagent5998 In a lot of ways she did. She was very loud, chaotic, reckless and there both at around the same level. Instead of a female Tony she's a bit like a female version of Tony
@@mitjamackenzie1219 sandra who sits out most of the challenges? Queen of being carried to be honest. Parvati and kim are miles ahead of her in terms of being a queen.
Not gonna lie I think this is a pretty rough video, you're pulling examples from years before this tribal. Can't they have changed since then? Even in this tribal they talked about how the culture has shifted and opinions changed.
Kass flipped the whole game because she was mad at Sarah. She then got into petty fights with Tasha, Morgan, and Spencer. Sarah was robotic to the point where she didn’t do anything out of malice. They were very different and Sarah’s speech made a lot more sense than when Kass tried to claim herself as a massive strategist. She just got mad at Sarah and Trish capatalized on it. She had a much better chance of winning if she didn’t.
The shit Sarah said at 0:15 was hypocritical as hell tho. She seemed mad that kass was a female mother that played deceptively, not just kass being a bitch
@@kat8559 Oh yeah. A two-time winner that got 0 votes all season and orchestrated nearly every elimination on both seasons is "overrated as hell." Lmao, give me a break.
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I’ll never forgive Jeff for how he treated Courtney
Courtney is a queen and deserved so much better.
Same here man. He really exposed her with her own personal problems.
@@JoelBranam like I’m fine with him exposing game decisions because that’s what he’s meant to do. But bringing up her weight in front of a live audience and DEMANDING an answer?? So distasteful
@@dangan255That’s true. NOBODY should have to answer a question just from someone else’s demands.
Somebody tell jeff we pick Courtney over them anyday
As much as we should take something away from this, and rightfully so…
…can we talk about Spencer’s spot-on impression of Tony?
you're so right it almost sounded like he took a clip of Tony's voice
@@bana6714 right
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Set the playback speed to 1.25x and it's damn near perfect
Jeff saying if people would choose coutney over tyson or boston rob I will always find hilarious because I would choose Courtney every single time
Right! She's loyal, funny, and an excellent meat shield if ever you find yourself at the bottom of your tribe
Ahahaha😭😭You guys Would be bad at survivor to even Think of choosing Courtney over Rob or Tyson. But I get it. You guys like her as person. She's Really funny I'll give her that. Especially when she's on the Jurry watching the tribals.
@@robtheservantof6257 bad at survivor for wanting a loyal ally who is not power hungry.
Boston rob wont marry you no matter how hard you stan him 🤣
@Eli Williams news Flash Courtney Would vote an ally out too. She just never got the chance too. Bc she's bad at the game anyways. What exactly is wrong with wanting power in survivor? Having Power Mean you can control Your game and not be a Goat like Courtney. That's what she is a Goat. GOATS don't deserve to win this game. You gotta actually play the game. You guys sound like children. I will agree thought that Rob plays the kind of game where It either Works 100% or it Fails Badly. No one is Truly Loyal in survivor. You can only Have One winner so if your in alliance with 5 people Only 2 or sometimes 1 of them will Last and that's only If Y'all have the numbers and have a core 3 or 2. And That's the thing it's ricksy asf to sit at the finals with someone you Started day 1 with bc. Y'all basically would have the same resume and Level of Power in the game. UNLESS you outshine them and was the one taking the shots. And that's usually what happens. For example Wendall & Dom were loyal to each other but technically give them any opportunity to vote each other out and they'd do it. And guess what In the end they LITERALLY Tied. Yall need to watch the game with more than just Feelings and who you like and start Seeing who actually plays a Good game. Corutney Is just a TV Player. She's funny asl and HAS to be loyal bc she can't take the power role in the game snf everyone is after her bc of how weak she is. So whoever does mess with her for her personality ofc she'll be Loyal. For example HvV. Sandra was really her only ally hence why she stuck with her. Good day
@Eli Williams omg I didn't realize I wrote so much😂😂
Notice how Natalie & Michele weren’t hypocrites 💅🏼👑
Natalie didn't play a good game this time and well Michelle is Michelle
@@sockmonkeyjg ok i pretty some person would come here and said natalie did played a good gane and should win waw at some point,So i just gotta leave this here.
Natalie got voted out first come back at day 36 only actually played for 6 days,Idol/immunity her way to the top.
Michelle’s own experience arguably shows gender bias. She got a lot of crap for her win, but at least she knew what was going on, unlike Fabio in Nicaragua. I loved Bob in Gabon, but he had terrible FTC and kinda drifted to the end. Her WaW game could be compared to Jay in MvG. He was on the wrong side of the numbers and even a bit of a jerk and a bully when Taylor was still in the game. With the help of an idols and some immunity wins, he was a threat to win. Michelle was never a jerk and was on the right side of the vote at least a few times, but was seen as a goat. There have also been players like Pascal in Marquesas, Butch in Amazon, and Keith in San Juan Del Sur who had zero strategy but were threats to win like Fabio and Bob because they were likable. They were threats to win over women with game.
@@josabby474 i did feel bad for michelle because of this, she really did struggle through and did deserve some votes more than natalie for sure which i will address in a minute to the other person
@@miz_flamingo1470 im glad you did because proving that she didnt really play a good game is a great pasttime of mine
1) if she was being graded on EoE performance then she would have won, but EoE is only an aspect of the season WaW and it is important to consider that
2) EoE only really works in this season because almost all the winners were popular so people wanted to see more, but its survivor jr really, there is no aspect that gets your voted out, you vote yourself out so there is no real danger to it, ontop of it you get to get launched into a ongoing survivor game where you have seen all the moves played, alliances drawn etc so you can see where to insert yourself (and most of the people who had the best odds in returning had an hidden immunity idol) so its a pretty safe bet if you run the odds that the person coming back gets to final
3) all of their achievements mean nothing because (as natalie pointed out) everyone knew who was the running the show and leaving him in the game was tandament to losing
4) while there isnt alot of social game on EoE it was noted that (especially near the end) people began to notice natalie sneaking off and distancing herself from key jurors like amber who had been their for a very long time and should have at least had some comradery with them
5) BUT THE KEY ISSUE is that ANYTHING NAT does is negated by her winning the challenge and then chickening out to avoid taking tony head to head... she honestly should have understood that anything other than tony being slain by her is a loss (sarah takes him out and she gets the credit for it netting her the win, michelle takes him out and she gets credit for the kill)
you can play the best game in the world but a dire mistake like that negates everything that player has does
Never really cared too much for Sarah. I thought she was overrated. Kass should’ve been on Game Changers instead of Sarah.
I agree. Cagayan she was painfully ignorant GC she was boring af and WaW she basically was Amanda 2.0 and played with someone who for sure was gonna beat her in the end
They did bring Kass back before Sarah though. She was on Second Chances.
@@entertainer_ev2747 y’all really disrespect sarah as a player
@@devondonato4609 nothin personal I just don't care for her lol
I never cared for her either lol
Oh how I haaaated this tribal. It was literally infuriating to listen to Sarah act as if she's been valiantly fighting for women's rights her whole life 🥴 people didn't dislike her because she was a woman, they didn't like her because she sucks as a human 💀
Yeah she sucks as a person she lacks personality, is boring to watch but atleast her strategy is good
Even that aside, she was so FUCKING STUPID to not get rid of Tony for fuck's sake lol
Sarah is definitely an overrated player. She was lucky to have made it far in Winners at War from starting out in the same tribe as Tony.
Sarah is an awful person
I thought I was the only one. I rolled my eyes when I heard the speech and the music slowly sinking in.
Spencer’s Tony impression is so good 😂
I like how much work you put in this video. It is equivalent to work of an actual archeologist.
The way he knows just what clips and just what episode to use. A certified Survivor historian.
I really dont like Sarah, shes a massive hypocrite. She constantly talks about how Tony betrayed their alliance in Cagayan yet theres footage of her talking about voting Tony off. She would've done the same thing in his position so i dont see why she acts like a victim.
Yeah like i was confused when Sarah brought up Tony "betraying" her in Cagayan despite the Cops R us alliance like... Weren't you both part of opposing alliances?
I don’t like Tony or Sarah; they are both pigs and Sarah is a huge Trump supporter
worst of all she is a huge MAGA Trump supporter, yet claims to be a hardcore feminist, and complains about bias against women!?!? The two together are not impossible. If you support Trump fine, but atleast don't look like a hypocritical idiot.
3:02 Spencer's Tony impression is on point 🤣. I wish I had access to these DVD extras
It's hard to determine intentions with Sarah's WaW speech about bias in the game towards women. Her statements are absolutely true, though I think Kass talking about it with Tony in Cagayan was more apt to the scenario she was in and had a greater impact to the viewer. It's hard to not feel like Jeff leans in to these types of talks at tribals as of late; it's hard to tell if it's genuine, related to his guilt for being prejudiced against certain types of players in the past, or just convenient. At any rate, I really do think Survivor has a history of baseline misogyny and unwelcome attitudes to poc and those who identify as anything but a cis white American. I think it's a good thing to have diversity. When these issues are talked about every single week it feels both self-congratulatory and an attempt to dissolve any social issues or biases with orchestrated monologues rather than organically in the game.
Very well put together. The "new" Jeff and CBS is purely for public relations and profits. Survivor is a show and money is ALWAYS the businesses goal, dont get fooled people.
Her statement is completely false lol, the most hated contestants for being liars are literally all cis white men.
This anti white male propaganda on survivor is a joke and insulting to every real victim of racism/discrimination. Which you clearly are not.
Ben: “Women deserve respect because they are related to men.”
real
I am laughing like an idiot for like 3 minutes at this. I get what he is trying to say, more cynical people cannot empathize until you ask them to imagine their loved ones being the ones that are wronged, but it still is hilarious to read it this. :))
Sarah was just jealous that she wasn’t getting the same love that Tony was getting.
That whole tribal was forced and cringey coming from her.
Thank you
@A Nigerian ninja guilt tripping people is a good strategy?
@@Preston-9118 if she wants to separate herself from Tony and guilt trip the jury, yes it’s a good move
@@Preston-9118 I mean Sandra did it in HvV but the way Sarah did was just pushy, cringy and hypocritical
@A Nigerian ninja I think Sarah was going to vote off Tony at 5 but he won immunity so I think she would've voted him out because he was the last jury threat
This is perfect. Saw a similar video of the clip where Jeff swears off saying "guys" and then says it about 30 times in season 41 lol. What a bunch of ridiculous posturing
this is pretty much total speculation but i 100% believe the whole not saying "guys" was jeff's idea to make the show seem more progressive but production coaxed ricard into bringing it up in case there was backlash (which there was) so the backlash wouldn't all be on jeff. like it's just the most performative thing ever especially since he keeps saying it lol
@@pintobears exactly. Nobody found it ironic that ultimately in a discussion about gender inclusion, the queer woman was overruled by the gay guy
@@pintobearsWell not saying “you guys” is kinda a TERF thing so it’s not really that progressive
😂😂 Kass is a legend
Right I loved Kass
Her and J’Tia might be the only ones still to come off clean from that tribe. Kass of all people. Maybe David Samson bc he was such a good sport about being voted off.
the way sarah made people think she actually cared about this shit
Jeff was disgusting towards Courtney & Danielle
Uh Danielle threatened to sue CBS after they almost let Amanda keep the reward advantage, so I understand his frustration with her, but Courtney did not deserve any of that. But Jeff has grown as a person and would never do that today.
There’s just something about Sarah that rubs me the wrong way. She just seems so self righteous.
Jeff: can a woman carry a season?
*Carolyn enters the chat*
Carolyn is Annoying asf. She grew on me towards the end but damn she was bms
eh. id say mike was the true carry
@@BizzareBlanch I believe he was talking about Survivor 44 Carolyn, who 100% could carry a season
I was cringing so fucking hard during the tribal with Kellee, because EARLIER THAT DAY all the women were together on the beach and the idea of an all women's alliance was brought up as a possibility. Then later that night they all act like it's the most offensive and unreasonable thing in the world for a man to consider the possibility...
Exactly 🤦🏾♂️
that was really nasty lol it felt like they were weaponizing the topic for strategy
To be fair Noura was the only one that brought it up and the other three women completely dismissed it haha
Kelle , Jamal and Janet were so good at that tribal council
Nah, Kellee was super annoying and disingenuous at that tribal. Being concerned about a potential women's alliance is not sexism.
I really would love to see all three of them play again! Especially the girls. the way Kelle was treated was disgusting and I hated seeing how Janet was treated as well.
@@Captain-Sum.Ting-Wong ik im late but what gets me the most is the fact that they actually did discuss a girls alliance in that same episode
As an aussie subscriber lmaoo at the scott Morrison the last thing I was I expecting was our prime minister scomo
Not the Scomo jumpscare
Hopefully Scotty from Marketing will be a nobody in a couple months!
0:08 no you wouldn't be strategic you just flip lol
1:34 Ben isn't being hypocritical here, he's right about Chrissy. Chrissy wanted and expected everyone to make decisions based on her will. Every time someone else didn't vote with Chrissy, Chrissy was an unnecessarily a prick about it that implied that other people can't play the game as they see fit.
At least Jeff somewhat owned it.
Similar to Sarah, if he was genuine and actually knew wtf he was talking about, then he would actually own up to his previous misdeeds and say specific times where he had the bias but alas
@@entertainer_ev2747 Its only a 44 min show and its not even supposed to be about Jeff but he does seem like he is sincere #ComeOnIn #DropTheGuys
True he never defended himself, he outright said I am a misogynistic pos that hates women with his actions
Kass is eighth especially because at the time of 2014 the huge anti-feminism/incel movement started to gain traction and the comments she got was pretty disgusting. Meanwhile a lot of rude and sexist comments spencer made (specifically the playing with her estrogen) then were made out to be so funny by the fanboys, Kass made one comment about how college age men act like beasts and she was annihilated. I find it funny the amount of love someone like spencer gets when I think he has just as poor of social skills (second chances shows this) as her at times vs Kass. She makes a great point, yeah Kass can be a bit mean and lack self awareness but there is some truth to her point.
She made a similar disparaging comment to Spencer about guys, its literally 1:1 and later in Ponderosa said the it was sexism that didn't get her game recognized, lol, the delusion and hypocrisy in playing the sexism card after making sexist remarks.
She was toxic as fuck with zero social game and kept backstabbing people. She was delusional to think she ever had a chance, Woo would have swooped her in FTC, thats how disliked she was by everyone on the jury. They didn't even talk with her when she was eliminated, everyone was ignoring her and I can guarantee you it had nothing to do with what was between her legs. But its up to par for other toxic accountability adverse people to pick her as their girl boss champion, I guess.
I also find it funny the amount of love someone like Kass seems to get, see how it is? People can like what they like and find funny what they find funny, its only one that gets to play the victim card and its seen as brave and worthy of applause by society by acting like the victim and spoiler alert, its not Spencer.
This is SO true, I'm glad I'm not the only one who acknowledged this from Sarah.
Probst is the absolute worst at pandering and acting for self image rather than actually caring about issues which matter.
I couldn't agree more
3:00 Spencer's Tony impression is fcking hilarious 😂
I'm not sure I find it hypocritical. I know Sarah had her own biases in the past, but I feel like the reason she brought it up during Winners at War was because she had grown as a person in the years since she first played, and she realized those biases were wrong, not because she's a hypocrite :P
Personally I find it incredibly irritating cuz literally the entire game she's basically playing with Tony and is totally fine with going to the end with him even tho it's obvious af that he's gonna beat her and then when things don't go her way when Natalie tells her the Jury consensus from EoE she pulls a half hearted sjw speech and it leaves such a sour taste in my mouth.
If that's the case, I think it would have been great if she acknowledged her own biases in the past. It may be the way it was presented in the edit, but the episode makes it look like this is her putting down other people with these biases (likely in order to boost her chances of beating Tony in the end), rather than acknowledging her own biases and newfound growth.
@@eagerturtle4791 I haven't watched the episode in a while, but I wouldn't be surprised if that's how it was presented. I think it's just a tricky subject because I agree with Sarah's premise, but I certainly don't believe she deserved to win Winners At War. I still think she likely intended to point out bias in everyone, including herself, but I can see a world where she ignores her own biases based on arrogance. :P will have to rewatch to fully affirm my feelings on the matter
Honestly I think it’s because she got to experience the other side of that bias because she got a lot of hate for how she played game changers.
no she just wanted to make the jury feel bad for giving tony all the credit
It's weird because ben's feeling male guilt for Tony beating Sarah while Ben was aligned with Sarah the whole game and wouldn't have got a single vote against her
Natalie made a huge mistake by not trying to bring Ben to final 3 with michele
@@MP-ef9yo For sure. I think Ben just refused to talk to her, like when he was wanting Jeremy out and he didn't even want to look at the guy
@@10secondlaughs96 Apparently ben wanted jeremy to be his #1 on day 1 then caught jeremy mocking him behind his back and then didnt trust him.
When natalie got back in at final 6, she said she wanted ben out bc he would beat anyone at fire but she shouldve used him to beat tony and then she would've won.
@@MP-ef9yo Yeah he saw Jeremy make a gesture to the camera and assumed it was about him and had a temper tantrum in a 2 million dollar game. Weird move but his life
@@MP-ef9yo I doubt Ben would actually try to beat Tony in fire I bet he would throw the fire making challenge just like he threw in the towel at 5 for Sarah
Tony being concerned of a girl alliance was legit. I would be too.
i think the point comes in where tony should be concerned of an alliance because they are acting close as friends and not just because they are women.
Well the girls has the majority so i would be concerned too.
He still didn't have to be a jerk towards them though
Tasha was going to be the next target for Trish Kass and Jefra had she not won immunity at Final 7
I can not believe how Sarah from Cagayan is the same from Game Changers & WaW lmfao
Kass may not have won the game but she won the die hard fans hearts
Goes on this tangent
Proceeds to vote for Tony
Well yes of course, since even she knew all she said was full of shit. The last thing Sarah Lacina will ever be is some super pro woman feminist.
kass > sarah
Tbf.. at least Sarah seemed to change her opinions in a good way lol if she had said that stuff about gender biases BEFORE bashing Kass, that would have been absolute clear-cut hypocrisy. But in this case.. I think its more like she just grew and matured a little over the years.
She hasn't changed shit, LOL! She is a huge Trump supporter and wore a MAGA hat at Ponderosa, AFTER this speech. This speech was full of shit and in no way conforms to any of her true beliefs. It was simply desperation since she was told Tony had the edge on her in a jury vote, and she wasn't willing to betray Tony due to their friendship.
Sarah trying to take credit for the point Kass made 12 seasons earlier........
That is the hypocritical part of it all.
Sarah got blindsided by Tony on Sophie vote out, got handed a resume by Ben, refused to split the votes at 6 like an idiot… arguably the most overrated player of the season
Tony: watch the fire. The girls: great. He’s looking for idols again.
Also girls: "Shouldn't we be looking for idols or doing anything of value instead of sitting in the water?"
"Nahhh let Tony do everything and say its sexism!"
@@kmitchell9891 LOL
Eager turtle comes out swinging again 💀💀
I don’t agree with all the Tony examples. To ignore the possibility of a women’s alliance simply because it sounds sexist is silly and just wrong. Women’s alliances are a thing to worry about in the game of survivor and is a legitimate thing to watch out for just the same as men’s alliances. I’m sorry but I’m not going to simply disregard it because it might be considered sexist when $1 million is on the line.
I love you for doing this. 👏👏
Kass ended this video in the perfect way
10/10 flashing to Scotty from marketing!
Being honest and speaking facts turning into false and blind ass kissing isn’t a positive change lol it’s just a bunch of people being fake around each other. People just need to grow up and learn to take criticism without making it seem like someone is being biased towards them. That goes for both men and women. All genders are equal, doesn’t matter what you identify with. It’s about you as an individual and how you behave. But of course the actions of others like you can have an influence on others’ perceptions of you. That’s how everyone’s personalities are created lol. It’s all based on past experiences. And it’s also up to you to learn to perceive others based on how they behave and not how others did. It’s kinda complicated but it’s also pretty simple at the same time depending on how open or closed minded you are. Idc either way I just wanna see people playing great games and putting on a great show without having to hear any whining or complaining from anybody (men or women) about fair or unfair.
I mean Kass got an incredible amount of hate from basically everybody that season for trying to make moves. Idk if it’s because she’s a woman or not, but it makes sense that she’d think that.
When i saw this title, i really thought this was gonna be “FeMiNiSm SuCkZzZ”
But this is actually very accurate and very sad
Wait.. didn't Jeff say that if you looked back at everything he's said over years, surely you'd find some things wrong..? Lol that's literally the opposite of being a hypocrite. Did I misunderstand what he said?
I think the hypocrisy comes from Sarah primarily.
That’s how she won in her season…Culpepper should it won it
I'm loving this edit. 💅💅💅💯
Almost 7 years is the gap from where Sarah first played in Cagayan vs her speech in WaW. A lot can happen in 7 years which includes self reflection and giving more thought to things especially since you won a million dollars, it gives you more avenues to think outside what you really are.
That aside, I still cringed lmao but the benefit of doubt is still there that hey, maybe she did change her thinking loool.
GET EM TURTLE
2:16 I have to be honest with you all, I'm not crazy about Kellee. She was the hero in the season, and she did do the right thing by standing up against Dan, but Janet and Jamal were also heroes and I preferred them by quite a bit. Has she seen Micronesia? All girls alliances were a thing and there's no reason to conclude that it couldn't happen again. Just because society is shifting doesn't mean there's no chance people won't temporarily choose to go back to the old way of doing things. I really respect her for speaking out against Dan, but I have to be honest, I think living on an island with her for 39 days would borderline intolerable. Janet and Jamal no issue whatsoever.
2:32-2:39 "The amount of fear that there's a women's alliance, outpaces the times that there's been a women's alliance". So you're still acknowledging they have existed though? That's like saying the amount of fear get paranoid about car crashes outpaces the number of times there are accidents...If Tony and Woo don't recognize the women's alliance might happen they probably don't get to the end of that game.
equality for men!!
I agree men need some rights taken away
Truly a microcosm of society...
Hi Ozzy
I can guarantee we heard that word many times last season. Liana was saying it like it was going out of style
Good on Tasha
Sarah lacina is just like that. very graceful when she wins. and only when she wins.
This is why I never liked Sarah 😵
This is why survivor sucks nowadays
I would buy this exact same speech a whole lot more if it came from Michele, ngl
Sarah had changed after playing and seeing herself the first time. She criticized Tony for swearing on his badge, then played like him and game changers. She also became friends with Lass.
Tony and Sarah were also enemies that became friends.
Ben had a contentious relationship with Krissy in HHH, but he had very close friendships with Sophie, Sarah, and Denise in WaW. If the clips had been flash forwards instead of flashbacks, I’d say it was hypocritical, but as it stands, it looks like growth: often the reason that people play: aside from winning. But maybe the title is sarcasm like many other videos of yours.
One instance of gender bias from Probst was from the MvG reunion when he criticized Figgy for having a showmance, but talked about how beautiful it was that Taylor had a new baby instead of criticizing him for getting a girl pregnant then having a showmance.
One of the most hypocritical players ever: JT Thomas. He said never ever ever trust a woman when he was voted out of HvV. Um which woman did he trust? Sandra when she warned then about Russell? Cirie when he voted her out? Amanda when she didn’t want him to give away the idol? Candace when she showed a brain and he stirred up paranoia for her?
In Tocancins, he worked with nerdy and not Uber macho Stephen, Taj- a woman, and Erin-a woman. He over cam a 2-1 numbers disadvantage and won by working with a nerdy city boy and two women.
HvV he calls himself, Tom, Colby and James the good guys and gets beguiled by Uber macho southern guy Russell and screws up the games of all the heroes with his bias.
Game Changers, he’s beguiled by Uber macho Southern guy Brad Culpepper and screws up Malcolm’s game. And Apparently he told people not to trust Cirie when he was the one that betrayed her. Ozzy actually worked with Cirie in Gamechangers and she had voted him out in Micronesia. There’s some hypocrisy. JT had the opposite of growth in his seasons.
@G R didn’t say that, did I?
@G R his working with the Uber macho guys alone would not have been a problem, but the fact that it blew up his game as well as the games of his Allies and he blamed women that he never actually trusted in the first place and the fact that he was the one to betray Cirie in HvV and told people not to trust her in Game Changers while he himself had been sketchy AF both of his previous seasons shows that he’s a chauvinist with his head up his own butt loving the smell of his own farts. Did you miss the part where I talked about Tony and Ben showing growth or did you just focus on the one sentence about JT?
@@josabby474 You some sort of soy sippin leftist or something?
Sarah deserved the win in Game Changers but boy did she laid that 💩 deep. You're not running for office girl.
There IS a bias, especially coming from Jeff, but this is such a wrong time. I think Sarah's Game Changers game was great, but Tony is the GOAT. Sometimes the best wins, if it's a man or a woman.
Survivor Gender at War
Sarah nooooo baby no
I don’t think Sarah was being hypocritical, per say. I think she has just changed as a person and grown as a Survivor player. I mean she had to right. I mean her first time around she was the merge boot, and then the second time around she won, and third time she made it to day 38 where if she made it to the end she probably would have won. Would it have been better if she maybe quoted on her words previously, probably and maybe made a public apology to Kass, but season 28 and season 40 are filmed many years apart, and a person can grow a lot in that time.
theyre right tho.... just look at how they treat kass
While it is easy to pull these clips out of context, we do have to remember that most of these people played for the first time over a decade before hand, in a very different social landscape. Sarah in specific in just her 2nd season talked about how the first time she played was like a cop. With integrity, honesty, and respect. And it got her nowhere. All of her old confessionals are extremely hypocritical *because* she learned how to play the game and grew as a person. And everyone there have clearly grown as players and as people. If being better than you were makes you a hypocrite, everyone should be one. It is okay to grow and evolve as a person, especially if it's correcting years of bad behavior.
💀💀💀📸📸📸
I hate the argument "we have sisters, we have mothers, think of them and know that women are capable!" Maybe just respect women, regardless of whether or not you have a sister??
Hahahahahha
I mean, she’s right, but someone else should have said it. It is super hypocritical coming from her. I don’t care for Sarah at all.
imo the most hypocritical FTC was the Phillippines. those people were SO bitter and didnt really have any real reason to be. very few of them were even betrayed or blindsided in the first place. furthermore pete/abi/artis had all gone out of their way after the merge to be antagonistic to the minority alliance that eventually went on to beat them fair and square. malcolm was literally mad at denise for convincing skupin to take her over him like she was supposed to accept defeat and not try to win
Lmao the scene that starts out on the walking stick and then moves to the girl they called anorexic. Horrible but comedic.
I just hate it when some women uses sexism as a way to navigate themselves from being seen as a horrible person. Kass is a horrible person and not just because she's playing a game. I don't think even Russell was as rude as her and Russell is consistently ranked among the most evil players ever. Meanwhile where is Kass right now? No one even remembers her anymore, while Russell is still hated to this day. She got away with being evil much more easier than Russell did and yet here she is playing the victim role. The majority of women aren't like that, but a pretty big percentage of them are. If you did something that wasn't nice. Own up to your faults. Its a game, tell people you did what you have to do, move on and if in the process you did something terrible, apologize. There is no need to play the victim card.
Okay 😂. In Lacina’s defense tho, it’s pretty obvious Lacina grew a lot in the span of 6 years both as a person as well as a player.
Not to mention she was actively pissed off at Kass for blindsiding her. It’s more likely that’s the reason she even said any of that
She voted for Trump and wore a MAGA hat to the final dinner at Ponderosa in Game Changers. Not sure how that aligns with her growth and her women's empowerment speech
@@MP-ef9yo Damn people are so obsessed with other peoples’ political views, it’s crazy. You do realize you can support Trump and be empowered as a woman, right? Or does your own political opinions cloud your judgement? It amazes me how much some fans despise contestants for their political beliefs. Some of my favorites are on the opposite spectrum of me and that’s fine.
@@World_Culture_Co supporting a man who has sexually assualted women is not women's empowerment. NO you cannot do both. Educate yourself
@@MP-ef9yo Please provide me with evidence that Trump has sexually assaulted somebody. Help “educate” me.
Umm… I didn’t get all the way through this video, but is it *possible* that a person can say one thing and years later realize that their opinion was kind of shitty?
I guess I keep forgetting that once you say one thing on camera, you have to commit to said idea until the day you die. Heaven forbid someone has a change of heart on anything or evolve as a human.
I also say this as someone who never had Sarah amongst my favorites, but respect the hell out of her effectiveness as a player. I guess some viewers were expecting a formal apology to Kass during this TC for her words to have any merit/sincerity.
Oh please, your points would be correct overall as a general rule, but lets be real Sarah is one of the most self serving, hypocritical humans alive, and anyone who is familiar with her at all knows the last thing she would ever be is some pro woman feminist. And knows she was only serving up that argument in desperation, since she was told Tony had the edge on her in a jury vote, otherwise such a thing would never have come up. Which is fine, it is strategy, but lets also be real. And she can be a great Survivor player, and all that still be true.
To be fair sarah kass are friends now lol
While what Kass and Sarah are saying is correct, I don’t think it applies to them specifically. Kass’ game in Cagayan was cutthroat but unlike Tony, she had no social game at all. Tony was crazy and blunt too but he still had his close personal connections like with Woo and Trish. Kass didn’t try to make anyone like her, I mean she flipped off a juror on their way out at final 5. That shows immaturity and unnecessary pettiness in front of the entire rest of the jury, no matter what gender you are that’s an absolutely stupid move that displays your appalling lack of social awareness.
If you want a real, hard hitting case of sexism in Survivor brutally affecting a well meaning female contestant, the best example you will find is Jerri Manthey and Colby Donaldson. Despite every other confessional from Colby being him shit talking and disrespecting everything about Jerris character, and despite every Jerri confessional being respectful towards Colby until he eventually backstabs her, the general viewing audience pegged her as the heartless villain and Colby as the great all american cowboy hero. The viewing audience saw Jerri as a manipulative, cold hearted bitch because she saw that Survivor is a game of alliances and numbers while Colby would say he’s here for the adventure and flash a pearly white smile to the cameras. Colby would later reveal he did all this purposefully to hopefully kickstart a hollywood acting or hosting career.
Despite Colby being the one to backstab Jerri, not the other way around, this followed Jerri to all stars where yet again Colby disrespected her at every chance he got which ironically lead to her voting him out. She was booed out of the building at the reunion and at her next appearance was put on the Villains tribe with Colby on the Heroes.
These attempts at using this issue to rewrite the narrative of their shortcomings by Kass and Sarah hurt the women who actually do fully experience this problem. The jurors didn’t respect Kass because she didn’t respect them or even attempt to pretend to, it wasn’t because she was a woman.
Yeah but if you listen to Sarah’s reasoning there is a clear gender bias. She starts off by saying kass is a mother and then calls her a liar, that’s clear gender bias and enforces the idea older women are supposed to be caring and loyal.
Haha LMFAOOOOOOO 😄
I never liked Sarah. I hated when she won Game Changers. Another reason why Game Changers is my least favorite season.
And this is why I am not a fan of Sarah.
It’s not hypocritical, it’s called character development
I thought Sarah was maga bruh
She is.
I don't trust anything that Spencer says
uhgh sara lacina...a cop in Iowa ...cant stand the woman
if sarah was a man y'all wouldn't call this hypocritical and call it character development.
Not sarah talking about women rights PLSSS
sarah 🤢
michele and natalie 🥰
I was actually thinking this about Sarah when I was watching it
Let's be fair to Sarah. She said that stuff about lying in the game 6 years before she said the stuff about gender bias. Same with Tony. Calling someone a hypocrite for something they said in the past is just childish.
Why does Jeff hate Courtney so much?
how is she gonna sit here and pretend to be such an advocate for womens rights when shes openly a trump supporter...??? lol
"A woman can do anything just as well as a man can"
Ok. Where's female Tony then?
Sandra be like
@@mitjamackenzie1219 sandra didnt play like tony
@@secondagent5998 In a lot of ways she did. She was very loud, chaotic, reckless and there both at around the same level. Instead of a female Tony she's a bit like a female version of Tony
@@mitjamackenzie1219 sandra who sits out most of the challenges? Queen of being carried to be honest. Parvati and kim are miles ahead of her in terms of being a queen.
Not gonna lie I think this is a pretty rough video, you're pulling examples from years before this tribal. Can't they have changed since then? Even in this tribal they talked about how the culture has shifted and opinions changed.
I mean, she’s a trumper.
I NEVER liked Sarah she was always so boring and a weird character and after Bens 7 immunity idols run he got annoying too
How are Tony, Ben, and Jeff hypocrites?
Kass flipped the whole game because she was mad at Sarah. She then got into petty fights with Tasha, Morgan, and Spencer. Sarah was robotic to the point where she didn’t do anything out of malice. They were very different and Sarah’s speech made a lot more sense than when Kass tried to claim herself as a massive strategist. She just got mad at Sarah and Trish capatalized on it. She had a much better chance of winning if she didn’t.
Kass didn’t do anything malicious that Tony didn’t do
The shit Sarah said at 0:15 was hypocritical as hell tho. She seemed mad that kass was a female mother that played deceptively, not just kass being a bitch
the only good people left at that point were natalie and michele
Tony: *fuck my game right?*
Tony too
Yikes
Tony is overrated as hell
@@kat8559 Oh yeah. A two-time winner that got 0 votes all season and orchestrated nearly every elimination on both seasons is "overrated as hell." Lmao, give me a break.