@@gustaaf1892 you do realise this bloke is disagreeing with cornes right? he’s saying it should be based on the positions on the ground (aka daicos should not be on the wing when he simply does not play wing)
Christian Petracca nearly DIED. Tis is what is getting forgotten. For the club president, CEO & Coach to have not talked to him or his family in all this time considering the seriousness of the condition I think is astounding. I ran an org & many restaurants & if there was a problem with a staff member or a member of the org them I was in contact with the person or family immediately.
Exactly right. He signed a long term deal and held his end up. But a near death experience changes everything and it's absolutely understandable that his perspective on the club changed as a result. To say he's high maintenance or not honouring his contract is a terrible take.
I completely agree. I used to run a restaurant with over 200 staff and if anything serious came up, I'd be in contact and constant contact with the employee. Its not like he tore his hamstring, as mentioned he nearly died and that absolutely changes your perspective on life. I get where Kane is coming from, but an injury where you almost died, plus there's obviously been other things at the club trac wasn't okay with, has changed his mind. No freaking idea how he can get to another club but for his sake, I hope so.
@@dilloncoleman144 For sure, if you actually care about your employees, you do more than Melbourne did for him. I don't know how they could have been worse. At pretty much every stage of this whole thing they dropped the ball. Of course he's disenchanted. I think you've got every right to want to leave an employer who put your life at risk. I know there's the argument about him saying he was good to go and putting himself back out there, but doctors have a duty of care and are there in part to protect players from themselves. In a court case, no doctor is going to use the defence, "My patient said they were okay, therefore it isn't my fault they're no longer with us." Petracca has said that he didn't realise how serious it was until he woke up post surgery and saw his partner and the toll it took on her (she wasn't sure he would make it through the surgery). Of course that changed his entire perspective of the incident. And then came Melbourne's shambolic communications about it after the fact. What a mess.
2 midfielders and 3 talls in the forward line, leaving just 1 small forward. And Kane keeps defending it saying "It's representative of how the game is played". Which team only runs with only 1 small forward in today's game?
@@telltellyn agree, and what team would run Zorko, Blakey, Ryan and Houston in their back 6. If that back six coped the Dogs or the Hawks they’d rip them open
@@eMDe83974errr no it wouldn't 🤦 Ryan is a damn good defender back pocket and small medium. Blakey can also play tall as he's 196. Theirs 2 KPD and then Zorko and Houston hald back offensive.
They have chosen an All Star team rather than a real team that you would send out onto the field. That is one way of doing it, but they need to own that rather than trying to weasel their way around it.
@@lukebpoland hogan would genuinely do whatever he pleases with blakey. please never suggest that bloke could defend against a tall forward 1 on 1 ever again 😭😭
I am not a Kane hater but mate, you fucked up. We are sick of these AA teams stacked with unnaccountable on ballers in place of positional players. I would also argue that a high half forward has to have started a center clearance in the fwd six at least 60% of center bounces. The teams are meaninglesd.
I think Kane is wrong. He's is essentially justifying Daicos on the wing by saying you can't drop him from the side. If that's the case, name him in the position he played most. In other words, he's saying that the AA side should be the best players, regardless of where they play throughout the year.
Putting Daicos on the wing is sneaky because he is of course a better overall player than Mass. Put Mass up next to a Butters maybe and it gets a bit closer. Particularly because the value of kicking and not necessarily overall possession numbers becomes more important. I big difference between on-ball and wing is wingers have to defend out in space. Not many of those mids would cover the defensive side out in space particularly well, that's for sure.
YEP. Picking Daicos over D'ambrosio is just as foolish as picking him over Gawn, McGovern or Hogan. I could name 5 Mids who had better years than Ryan, waterman, or gawn.
Out and out wingers off the top of my head: Errol Gulden, Massimo D'Ambrosio, Josh Daicos, Ed Langdon, Bailey Williams (Dogs), Blake Acres, Jeremy Sharp, Steele Sidebottom There are definitely more but that's just the top level names I can think of. If I can name 8 without researching, a panel of AA selectors looking throughout the season can certainly fill out the list.
Nick Martin, Mason Wood, Hugh McCluggage, Bailey Banfield, Jarrod Berry there's plenty of mids that play the majority of their time on the wing. Yeah it's just Kane-o defending his position poorly. You could tell as soon as he said "People will have a sook" yeah, great start to your argument Kane-o 😂
@andrewkerr5296 my team has two primary wingers. Not sure about the others but if this is a fantasy team then play a primary role player in thatl position.
So Errol’s spot is cemented because he is the best winger, but the second best winger doesn’t get the other spot? If we aren’t going to stick to positions then why does Errol get a spot? There are midfielders that have had a better season than him
@vindicespiritus5768 That cuts both ways. Why should ANOTHER mid fielder get put in on the wing? Why wasn’t he put in an actual on ball/centre position? If it’s because a Cripps or Bontempelli was better then why does Daicos squeeze in if he wasn’t good enough to earn a spot in his ACTUAL position? Sounds to me like it’s just a way for a midfielder who wasn’t good enough to earn his actual spot gets a free spot on a wing or squeezed into half forward. Pushing out players that have actually been playing those positions all year. That’s kinda bullshit to be honest.
Ex President Glen Bartlett has won approval to take his defamation case against Roffey and others to the Federal Court. His eventual testimony will give us a pretty good idea of whats been going on at Melbourne for the last few years. If Welbourne is wounded at the moment, this court case could bring the club to it's knees.
They have been in a much worse position. I remember the time the team went broke and had to be propped up by a magnate who then tried to stop the team drafting certain players because of their religious background- and succeeded! That was after they seemed certain to merge with Hawthorn. Melbourne will be fine but it is completely obvious that everyone from the President down to the coach and beyond must go in the near future.
The narrative that Petracca wants to improve his brand is nauseating. Oliver, Smith, Goodwin etc all have a poor history off the field. It’s so obvious.
But is it completely unfounded? Bont doesn’t play for a big 4 VIC team, his team goes through wild ups and downs, and he doesn’t complain about not playing for a big crowd team. Trac knew the Melbourne base when he signed 7 years on a million $ year. He's also dragging the entire Melbourne playing list through the mud and affecting their careers.
I think Bailey Dale is really underrated. He is so crucial to everything the Bulldogs have been doing and after a poor couple of games at the start of the year has rebounded to have an outstanding season. His impact on games is really significant. Even last weekend Whitfield may have had more disposals but I think Dale had much more impact. Should have made the team in my view
Kane’s take on Petracca is everything that is wrong with media today. Instead of considering the layers to this, he simplifies the whole situation to “Petracca wants out since Melbourne started losing games.” So bloody ignorant. Don’t you think it might have SOMETHING to do with his life-threatening injury, Kane?
It's clear that the way the injury was handled was the straw that broke the camels back. Petracca has probably for a while had grievances with the way many things are being handled at the club outside of the injury debacle.
I actually agree with him. I think Trac is being opportunistic to get out of a club that is no longer in the premiership window and will gradually fall down the ladder. He wants to play for a winning club and is going to make a mountain out of a relative molehill to get his way and a lot of people are falling for his poor poor pitiful me schtick.
Ramone I think you are the one simplifying things - all of the questions Kane is asking are valid and he says multiple times that there is so much information we don’t know and are trying to fill in the gaps. Kane is bang on the money and not just blindly taking one side over the other.
I think Kane’s explanation of why a player who is predominantly a midfielder was selected as a winger didn’t fly. And was very defensive. It seems like it was decided to fit in as many midfielders as possible including the IC to make sure everyone was happy. A normal IC would have an extra for the backs, forwards, mids and a utility. Be transparent and true to the process.
D'ambrosio didn't have an AA caliber year.. I agree with Kane on this one. Last year Josh Daicos had an AA caliber year playing on the wing and rightfully was in the team as a wingman.
@@Cloudzyy5 no. squad is an All-Australian squad. It means you've been All-Australian caliber. Selectors decided to pick the top players of the comp and squeeze them in rather than picking two wings (both named in the squad) that had All-Australian seasons
Btw, Kane's argument is that you should include the best players over the best players in those positions, even if they had an AA year. They don't care if a wing is great. Weird how they don't name mids as fullbacks
@nathand4500 Yup. It was such a “hard” call to decide between Andrews and Weitering and they couldn’t squeeze in a 3rd big defender who probably deserves a spot, not even in a spot on the bench. But hey they can Chuck in a dozen midfielders who apparently “deserve” a spot in position they don’t even play. If Daicos wasn’t good enough to edge out Cripps, Bont or the other mids then he shouldn’t make it. Simple as that. They should be only eligible in positions they play majority of their game time.
Kane happy to lay the boots into Petracca as a sook because of the issues surrounding him wanting a trade, but cuddles JHF because he didn't like ice baths and wanted to be traded. Make it make sense
Very different situations. JHF had leg injuries so couldn't ice bath. Petracca chose to sign 7 yr contact and has 5 left. JHF had no choice going to NM and only had 1 yr left on contract anyway.
I feel like if all it took was playing for Geelong Max Holmes would have made it. West Coast got more players in the squad than Geelong and finished 13 spots further down the ladder.
@@eMDe83974 The AA team sells newspapers. It always needs some Geelong players, some WA players, some SA players.. etc to hit all the markets. And selectors like Cameron Ling clearly come with an agenda.. but he is not alone.
Weitering over Andrews - because no QLD panel member On the Wing position - By Kornes logic of you rewards ''All Australian year'' to the best players regardless of their position, just pick the top 22 of the playing group regardless of position, and have a team of only mids. Idiocy.
Kingy is 100% on the money. The opportunities a pure mid gets far outweighs the opportunities a wing gets. Otherwise you’d pick a team full of midfielders. Can a mid play wing. Absolutely, but would Daicos have had the year he had if he played pure wing? Probably not. Fact is HE ISN’T A WINGMAN!
he is a wingman in the All Australian team. Which means the selectors believe he'd have more talent on the wing than any of the "aCtUaL" wingman that could have been selected, but weren't. Cope
@@callumomalley2515 on your rational then why isn’t Bont or Cripps playing ruck? You don’t pick a team on talent, you SHOULD pick a team on performance vs position.
@@eMDe83974 because the selectors believe Gawn would do better in ruck than cripps. Do i also have to explain why Cripps wasn't selected for full back lmao. you can't actually be this dumb, please stop trolling
@@callumomalley2515 nice. My point is Daicos played 5 mins of wing. Would he have been more influential than D’Ambrosio? NO! He did not play wing. Wow. Who’s the thick one…
I understand and agree with Kane. He's trying to say Mass as hasn't had a good enough year as a wingman to out perform the year Daicos has had as a midfielder and therefore, they have put Daicos in, because he's had a 10/10 year as a midfielder, where-as Mass has a 8 or 9/10 year as a winger. I personally think they raise the threshold of % played for positions, from say whatever it is now to 60% from next year. That way the players selected in those positions will have actually played in them as their primary position. This should include wings.
Kanes argument for putting an onballer on a wing because there aren't many wings to choose from is absurd. You only have a limited number of full backs. Why not put Daicos at full back.
@@vindicespiritus5768 Wing is a lot more specialised than you give credit for i think. Most on-ballers do not spend any time on the wing because it does require a different skill set. Much more likely to see HBF rotate positions because a wing has pretty important defensive duties. Daics would be damaging with ball but would be killed in the 1-1 defensive situations most wingers are in imo. Daics deserves to be in but they should've made the hard call on one of the other on-ball only players.
@@rexanael243 the winger is just a harder-running more self-sacrificing midfielder. It’s not an entirely different skill set. The ball is bounced and the wingers rush in to the centre. I think a lot of people are giving the wingers too much credit
@@davidsmith4572 as much as i agree it’s very different. it’s the same reason him asking why young is on kingy’s half forward flank is stupid because midfielders are basically secondary hhf’s and midfielders could genuinely play on the wing. mids and hhf’s are very similar, mids and wings are somewhat similar. full backs and mids are different as different gets.
Kane lets himself down with the wing argument, making zero sense and poor explanation. Might as well put Daicos back pocket then Kane you muppet. There's also better midfielders than Gulden that didn't make AA, why wasn't he replaced?
@@andrewkerr5296 was daiks one of those players that 'rotated' on a wing?. The position then shouldeve gone to a player that 'rotated' in that position.
@@daniellebcooper7160 I've seen Fyfe & Brayshaw play on a wing this year. A wing Position isn't that hard to play for a good player. Finding a genuine Winger who is good is rare
Wingers I can think of straight off: McCluggage, J. Berry, D'Ambrosio, J. Fletcher, Gulden, Wood, Bergman, J. Sharp , Mason Wood, Langdon, Hunter, Duncan, Holmes No Daicos plays wing fr
Charlie Curnow could play Centre halfback/fullback better than most if not all. He regularly dropped back when the game was on the line, Now what Kane?
They shouldve taken Luke Ryan out, put Houston further back, Whitfield half back, Massimo on the wing. Put whichever mid on the bench to take Whitfields bench spot.
Melbourne supporter here, told everyone before the season that we'd implode and we had culture problems, have seen if for a few years, any time one of our players gets picked on, no one stands up for that player, we also can't hold a tackle and that's pathetic.
So if the argument is you're picking your best players over a specialist wing, then you pick Merrett over Gulden. Some players are getting favourable looks because they're in a stronger team. Merrett basically carried Essendon on his shoulders all season. Gulden a super player, for sure, but I know who I'd be picking first if I could only have one.
It will be telling next year when people talk about the named players - are they an "All Australian Player" or an "All Australian Ruckman / Winger / Full Back" - I bet Daicos won't be called the latter. Just my gut check way of working out if a pick "feels" correct
This is ridiculous. Anybody who watches the game knows which players are playing midfield roles and who plays a wingman role. Watch Akers. Every week, he IS a wingman. Picking an AA team should be picking key positional players who have had an elite season in their positional roles, NOT picking your favourites. Also, how Waterman gets picked (just because he’s the only bloke kicking WCE goals) over Curnow who is 3rd overall….is ridiculous. More ridiculous is JMcgovern in the side in such a weak defensive team as WCE. JMcgov in and Andrew’s out is even MORE laughable. AA is speculative nonsense and it loses its credibility more and more every year.
How is DEI Laura Kane a selector? Never played a game in her life. It’s bad enough Abby is in there, but at least she played a few games. Enough of this woke nonsense. The woemyn can be AFLW selectors. Kane is a 🦠on the AFL. Sack her now!
@TheTruth-DealWithIt he doesn’t play half forward at all wdym 😂 is was a defender turned mid and plays in the centre. Yes he’s a good player but never plays forward.
I agree with king why is daicos on the wing either put him in the middle or on the bench and how does Luke Ryan make the team over Harris Andrew’s and how does treloar make it over Merrett
Even LLoydy was saying that Merritt looks better because Essendon are so poor atm. He is a great player in a poor team where Trelor is a great player in a greta team still getting plenty of touches and impact. Poor Merritt has been carrying the bombers. i do agree a bit stiff but id say thats why, hence Sheezel and Xerri didnt make imo
@@BanksyOz Daicos is the same though. Collingwood nothing without him this year. Feel like Sheezel gets overlooked too much because he is in such a poor side
@BanksyOz I don’t see being in a crap team making them look better as a good enough excuse. McGovern plays backline at the eagles. They get smashed often and the balls always in his area. He’s good but being in a shit team means he’s getting more looks at the ball than other defenders. Same as Waterman. He’s the best forward in a shit team so he’s gonna look even better. Like who’s there 2nd best goal kicker for the year? Jamie Cripps? When their only real forward option is Waterman he’s not exactly competing with teammates for service. I’m not saying they don’t deserve spots but being in a crap team shouldn’t matter. Merrett has been consistent most the year and was being talked about as a possible AA Captain halfway through the season. The bombers dropped away but Merrett has still been solid and trying to carry them basically every week. Not getting a spot was a bit of a snub.
Kane has just confirmed that they just pick the most flashy midfielders and shove them in the team even when they would form the most cohesive team as a whole. Daicos might be great but he isnt a wingman.
Honestly who cares if Daicos misses out... Hes not a wingman. And every other midfielder in that group had a more consistent year of impact with the ball. Daicos had some absolutely outrageous games and he may well win the brownlow, but he might not. And without knowing if hes the brownlow winner i would comfortably swap him for D'Ambrosio on the wing.
Who cares if Nick Daicos the coaches award winner and current equal favourite in the Brownlow misses out completely on All Australian selection. You we’re joking, I hope
1 million a year for 5 years...nothing to complain about, despite the horrific injury. He will not play again, but suck it up princess, you're set for life. Lots of people struggle to put food on their plates or a roof over their heads.
I agree with Kingy that two wingman should be picked, but I also agree that if you are adding a player, you also need to say who should be removed. Also agree with Kane that Daicos 100% deserves to be in the team. I would bring him in for Neale or Treloar, don’t mind who you would pick out of those two.
The problem with Kane is he thinks everything’s black and white and his opinion is final. Believe it or not others can make great contrasting points that can also be right. It’s AFL, the whole blood sport lives in gray area
Kane is correct though lol. The best team in the country has Daicos on the wing instead of any actual wingman. Anyone (with a brain) trying to select the best team in the country would opt for Daicos on the wing instead of any of the wingman who played wing, because Daicos is that good.
It’s unlucky for Merrett, but they usually pick a captain who leads his team into finals and premiership contention. He should be in the team but, based on above, I’d rather Bont as captain.
Literally the minute he got hurt, Melbourne have treated Petracca poorly. They let him play while he was bleeding internally. Everyone watching on television knew something was extremely wrong, how the doctors and the club didn’t was unfathomable
After talking about culture culture culture. The Dees definitely "showed" what "culture" they have. A culture that leaves a guy out in the cold after he almost died. And if you think something like that can be fixed... you got no idea. Trac should leave the club.
“High maintenance”. Perfect description of Petracca by Kane. Club needs to take a hard line with this nonsense. “See you on November 23 Christian for day one of pre-season training.” End of discussion.
Shit in under 12s in the 90s I got a broken jaw and my coach was in hospital with ne the next morning and also recieved a phone call from the President and as I couldn't play for 12 weeks I was given a role after 6 weeks helping them at training until I could rejoin training and was presented with my own jumper with a requested number from the start of the season. That is gar better treatment than what he was given
Kane's comments about whether you'd select Nick over Massimo for a grand final are silly, because while yes, I probably would select Nick over Massimo for a GF, the AA team doesn't play games. It's supposed to be a representation of the best players who have played in every position on a footy team for the season.
Serong being a starting on baller is crazy 😂 he had a great first half of the year then tailed off and they lost their last 4! N daicos to on ball, Serong out the team and sheezle to the wing as he played there a bit at least.
Cornesy really frustrating me here. Petracca nearly died due to the Melbourne medical team's mistake, sending him back on lost crucial moments, we could be in a much worse situation if he had spent even a few more minutes on that pitch. To try and say that it's high maintenance to expect the bare minimum of being CONTACTED by the club is insane. The club should have been his main point of contact and support in helping him, and they've literally not even reached out to his family.
I think Kane and Kingy both have point. How can you leave N. Daicos out? Yet Bailey Dale is indispensible to the WB. Midfielders get more opportunities, so they seem to shine more. Look at Ed Richards. Excellent but not very visible in defense. Moved to the midfield, he suddenly becomes a star. So how many players outside the midfield are there that are capable of racking up 30 disposals every week if moved to the midfield? Probably more than 40. Does the AA team need to consist of the best players or best key position players? Seems like no one will be happy about the AA tean until this question is answered.
The fact that we sucked as a team makes their performances more extraordinary than if we were good. Gov was a colossus down back, easily stopped at least 20 points game extra being scored against us while jake was 1st the league for marks inside 50 and 5th in the Coleman despite terrible delivery most of the time. As individuals they were exceptional
As much as I feel for petracca and don’t want to detract from the severity of the incident, I agree with a lot of what Kane said. There’s a lot of things just being assumed without any idea about petraccas side of the equation and his willingness to communicate and actively engage with the club in all of this. It seems selfish to point to wanting to play for big Melbourne clubs after signing a 7 year deal on good coin. Also I remember well before his injury in a post match interview he said “I don’t know why when it’s cold the Melbourne fans don’t really come out”. Clearly it’s been an issue for a while well before this injury saga. Hopefully both parties can come to some sort of resolution.
Of Ricciuto's 8 All Australians, only ONE was as a midfielder! 4 on the bench, and 3 as a forward. So much for picking midfielders as midfielders back in the day 🤣
The idea you HAVE to choose two players who fulfil some nebulous criteria for being a "winger" is ridiculous. Some teams might have one or two players who take that role all year, most don't. But every team has key and small forwards, key and small defenders, rucks and several midfielders of different types. Beyond that, it's pointless to get more specific.
Catch up at Max Gawns wine bar. How dumb ? I’ve said for 18 months Gawn and Goodwin are part of the problem. Pert is just a BS artist, Richardson is an ordinary performer and Roffey is so far out of her depth. Bartlett was parachuted out of the club bc he spoke up about some home truths about what was happening. Hope it all comes home to roost. Need to make Viney captain as a starting point.
Clearly Kane just isn't interested in engaging with the point the Kingy was trying to make. Almost every other award in the game is already a midfielders award. All-Australian is a chance to recognise the performance of a player regardless of where they play. You can talk all you like about how the game is actually played, but you can't say there's a single team that will turn up on gameday bringing in 10 plus midfielders out of their 22 named players
Petracca is clearly someone who is more a “professional athlete” than just a footy player. Post 21 premiership professionalism around Melbourne has clearly dropped off, that’s just publicly I imagine it’s pretty bad behind closed doors. I highly doubt he hasn’t tried to turn it around and realised he’s wasting his time. Hes been publicly frustrated in the past. Telling Melbourne fans to come to the game etc. Then add how they handled his injury, it’s clearly not a win loss issue that he thinks is ruining his brand.
With the “Nick daicos could play a wing better than Massimo” yes he could but I think the Bont could play as a key forward better than many so let’s put him there
I don't know how Kingy puts up with the rubbish that comes out of Cornes' mouth. Just about everything Cornes says is tinged with controversy to enhance clicks...I wonder how much of the rubbish he spouts he actually believes.
D’Ambrosio has had a good year, but GOOD LORD HES OVERHYPED. He played 13 great games and went missing for about 7 of them. Thats not an AA year. Everyone remembers the last 3 weeks, but forgets about the rest of the year.
Hawthorn started 0-5 and Mass was rated in the 2 best wingers during this time. Hawthorn then came good and he maintained his Champion Data rating as 2nd highest rated winger for rest of season. His season started strong and got better and better as the season went on. Mass definitely had an AA year. It is not a Mass v Daicos argument…both should have made the side in the positions they play majority of time…or bench. AA side and Gulden needs a rest…who plays wing? No specialized wingers then?
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If the all Australian team is not based on positions on the ground why not just pick 23 midfielders.
Yup, totally disagree with Cornes. The players who played best in a designated position should get picked.
Spot on
@@gustaaf1892 you do realise this bloke is disagreeing with cornes right? he’s saying it should be based on the positions on the ground (aka daicos should not be on the wing when he simply does not play wing)
@@gustaaf1892 nvm dyslexia moment lmao.
@@samysull333 Yes and I'm agreeing with him.
Christian Petracca nearly DIED. Tis is what is getting forgotten. For the club president, CEO & Coach to have not talked to him or his family in all this time considering the seriousness of the condition I think is astounding. I ran an org & many restaurants & if there was a problem with a staff member or a member of the org them I was in contact with the person or family immediately.
Exactly right. He signed a long term deal and held his end up. But a near death experience changes everything and it's absolutely understandable that his perspective on the club changed as a result. To say he's high maintenance or not honouring his contract is a terrible take.
I completely agree. I used to run a restaurant with over 200 staff and if anything serious came up, I'd be in contact and constant contact with the employee.
Its not like he tore his hamstring, as mentioned he nearly died and that absolutely changes your perspective on life.
I get where Kane is coming from, but an injury where you almost died, plus there's obviously been other things at the club trac wasn't okay with, has changed his mind.
No freaking idea how he can get to another club but for his sake, I hope so.
@@dilloncoleman144 For sure, if you actually care about your employees, you do more than Melbourne did for him. I don't know how they could have been worse. At pretty much every stage of this whole thing they dropped the ball. Of course he's disenchanted.
I think you've got every right to want to leave an employer who put your life at risk. I know there's the argument about him saying he was good to go and putting himself back out there, but doctors have a duty of care and are there in part to protect players from themselves. In a court case, no doctor is going to use the defence, "My patient said they were okay, therefore it isn't my fault they're no longer with us."
Petracca has said that he didn't realise how serious it was until he woke up post surgery and saw his partner and the toll it took on her (she wasn't sure he would make it through the surgery). Of course that changed his entire perspective of the incident.
And then came Melbourne's shambolic communications about it after the fact. What a mess.
I’ve been to your restaurant, it sucks
@@benmorgan9748 not sure what your motivation behind this comment was, but thank you for the feedback 🙂
Does David King know how chairs work?
He’s too cool apparently
Big fella was probably almost falling out of the chair, needs that frontal support 😂
pulling an AC Slater
sitting like that so once he's had enough of Corn he can make a quick getaway
2 midfielders and 3 talls in the forward line, leaving just 1 small forward. And Kane keeps defending it saying "It's representative of how the game is played". Which team only runs with only 1 small forward in today's game?
@@telltellyn agree, and what team would run Zorko, Blakey, Ryan and Houston in their back 6. If that back six coped the Dogs or the Hawks they’d rip them open
@@eMDe83974errr no it wouldn't 🤦 Ryan is a damn good defender back pocket and small medium. Blakey can also play tall as he's 196. Theirs 2 KPD and then Zorko and Houston hald back offensive.
They have chosen an All Star team rather than a real team that you would send out onto the field. That is one way of doing it, but they need to own that rather than trying to weasel their way around it.
@@jamesr2547exactly!
@@lukebpoland hogan would genuinely do whatever he pleases with blakey. please never suggest that bloke could defend against a tall forward 1 on 1 ever again 😭😭
I am not a Kane hater but mate, you fucked up. We are sick of these AA teams stacked with unnaccountable on ballers in place of positional players.
I would also argue that a high half forward has to have started a center clearance in the fwd six at least 60% of center bounces.
The teams are meaninglesd.
Half fwd is arguably the toughest role to play in the current game.
I think Kane is wrong. He's is essentially justifying Daicos on the wing by saying you can't drop him from the side. If that's the case, name him in the position he played most. In other words, he's saying that the AA side should be the best players, regardless of where they play throughout the year.
Putting Daicos on the wing is sneaky because he is of course a better overall player than Mass. Put Mass up next to a Butters maybe and it gets a bit closer. Particularly because the value of kicking and not necessarily overall possession numbers becomes more important.
I big difference between on-ball and wing is wingers have to defend out in space. Not many of those mids would cover the defensive side out in space particularly well, that's for sure.
YEP. Picking Daicos over D'ambrosio is just as foolish as picking him over Gawn, McGovern or Hogan. I could name 5 Mids who had better years than Ryan, waterman, or gawn.
Out and out wingers off the top of my head:
Errol Gulden, Massimo D'Ambrosio, Josh Daicos, Ed Langdon, Bailey Williams (Dogs), Blake Acres, Jeremy Sharp, Steele Sidebottom
There are definitely more but that's just the top level names I can think of. If I can name 8 without researching, a panel of AA selectors looking throughout the season can certainly fill out the list.
Nick Martin, Mason Wood, Hugh McCluggage, Bailey Banfield, Jarrod Berry there's plenty of mids that play the majority of their time on the wing.
Yeah it's just Kane-o defending his position poorly.
You could tell as soon as he said "People will have a sook" yeah, great start to your argument Kane-o 😂
Wings should be a wing, and Massimo was robbed
I'll second that.
Not really, what team in the AFL has 2 genuine wingers?
Literally every team has 1 Full time Winger & the other wing has players rotating
@@andrewkerr5296do you actually watch footy?
@@azlow3425
Bruh there's only a handful of actual wingers in the comp
@andrewkerr5296 my team has two primary wingers. Not sure about the others but if this is a fantasy team then play a primary role player in thatl position.
There is no way daicos would play on the wing in a game. He should be in the side though
So Errol’s spot is cemented because he is the best winger, but the second best winger doesn’t get the other spot? If we aren’t going to stick to positions then why does Errol get a spot? There are midfielders that have had a better season than him
NO team in this Comp plays 2 Full time Wingers
Errol’s season was heaps better than Massimo’s. Playing wing shouldn’t be a free ticket to a blazer
@@vindicespiritus5768they literally name positions when announcing the AA lol
@@imalwaysright good catch genius
@vindicespiritus5768
That cuts both ways. Why should ANOTHER mid fielder get put in on the wing?
Why wasn’t he put in an actual on ball/centre position? If it’s because a Cripps or Bontempelli was better then why does Daicos squeeze in if he wasn’t good enough to earn a spot in his ACTUAL position?
Sounds to me like it’s just a way for a midfielder who wasn’t good enough to earn his actual spot gets a free spot on a wing or squeezed into half forward.
Pushing out players that have actually been playing those positions all year.
That’s kinda bullshit to be honest.
Ex President Glen Bartlett has won approval to take his defamation case against Roffey and others to the Federal Court.
His eventual testimony will give us a pretty good idea of whats been going on at Melbourne for the last few years.
If Welbourne is wounded at the moment, this court case could bring the club to it's knees.
They have been in a much worse position. I remember the time the team went broke and had to be propped up by a magnate who then tried to stop the team drafting certain players because of their religious background- and succeeded! That was after they seemed certain to merge with Hawthorn. Melbourne will be fine but it is completely obvious that everyone from the President down to the coach and beyond must go in the near future.
Dude massimo!!! He’s so good on the wing
The narrative that Petracca wants to improve his brand is nauseating.
Oliver, Smith, Goodwin etc all have a poor history off the field. It’s so obvious.
But is it completely unfounded? Bont doesn’t play for a big 4 VIC team, his team goes through wild ups and downs, and he doesn’t complain about not playing for a big crowd team. Trac knew the Melbourne base when he signed 7 years on a million $ year. He's also dragging the entire Melbourne playing list through the mud and affecting their careers.
I think Bailey Dale is really underrated. He is so crucial to everything the Bulldogs have been doing and after a poor couple of games at the start of the year has rebounded to have an outstanding season. His impact on games is really significant. Even last weekend Whitfield may have had more disposals but I think Dale had much more impact. Should have made the team in my view
Kane’s take on Petracca is everything that is wrong with media today. Instead of considering the layers to this, he simplifies the whole situation to “Petracca wants out since Melbourne started losing games.” So bloody ignorant. Don’t you think it might have SOMETHING to do with his life-threatening injury, Kane?
Kane is hired and paid for his intentional stupidity which somehow comes so easy.
It's clear that the way the injury was handled was the straw that broke the camels back. Petracca has probably for a while had grievances with the way many things are being handled at the club outside of the injury debacle.
I actually agree with him. I think Trac is being opportunistic to get out of a club that is no longer in the premiership window and will gradually fall down the ladder. He wants to play for a winning club and is going to make a mountain out of a relative molehill to get his way and a lot of people are falling for his poor poor pitiful me schtick.
Ramone I think you are the one simplifying things - all of the questions Kane is asking are valid and he says multiple times that there is so much information we don’t know and are trying to fill in the gaps. Kane is bang on the money and not just blindly taking one side over the other.
Do you really think If Melbourne finished top 2 this year the Petracca situation would be the same? I HIGHLY doubt it.
I think Kane’s explanation of why a player who is predominantly a midfielder was selected as a winger didn’t fly. And was very defensive. It seems like it was decided to fit in as many midfielders as possible including the IC to make sure everyone was happy. A normal IC would have an extra for the backs, forwards, mids and a utility. Be transparent and true to the process.
D'ambrosio didn't have an AA caliber year.. I agree with Kane on this one.
Last year Josh Daicos had an AA caliber year playing on the wing and rightfully was in the team as a wingman.
Massimo was named in the squad, therefore AA caliber lol
@@imalwaysright thanks for that - but he didn't make the team.. due to not being AA caliber
@@Cloudzyy5 no. squad is an All-Australian squad. It means you've been All-Australian caliber. Selectors decided to pick the top players of the comp and squeeze them in rather than picking two wings (both named in the squad) that had All-Australian seasons
@@imalwaysright All-Australian Squad* seasons. Lol. I’d rather have Nick playing wing for my team than Mass
Btw, Kane's argument is that you should include the best players over the best players in those positions, even if they had an AA year. They don't care if a wing is great. Weird how they don't name mids as fullbacks
The shoehorning of midfielders into the team has to stop. Going on far too long.
@nathand4500
Yup. It was such a “hard” call to decide between Andrews and Weitering and they couldn’t squeeze in a 3rd big defender who probably deserves a spot, not even in a spot on the bench.
But hey they can Chuck in a dozen midfielders who apparently “deserve” a spot in position they don’t even play.
If Daicos wasn’t good enough to edge out Cripps, Bont or the other mids then he shouldn’t make it. Simple as that.
They should be only eligible in positions they play majority of their game time.
Imagine having 12 of the exact same player in one team 🤦🏼♂️
Kane happy to lay the boots into Petracca as a sook because of the issues surrounding him wanting a trade, but cuddles JHF because he didn't like ice baths and wanted to be traded. Make it make sense
Kane is just trying to be a contrarian, his engagement goes up when he says something completely ridiculous so of course he's going to keep doing it.
Very different situations. JHF had leg injuries so couldn't ice bath. Petracca chose to sign 7 yr contact and has 5 left. JHF had no choice going to NM and only had 1 yr left on contract anyway.
If Masso was named Josh Daicos and played for the Pies or Cats he would have been selected.
@@karmic-fleas bang on. Crazy that with the stacked teams Hawthorn put on the park in 13-15 the best they could muster was 3 x AA.
I feel like if all it took was playing for Geelong Max Holmes would have made it. West Coast got more players in the squad than Geelong and finished 13 spots further down the ladder.
@@eMDe83974 The AA team sells newspapers. It always needs some Geelong players, some WA players, some SA players.. etc to hit all the markets. And selectors like Cameron Ling clearly come with an agenda.. but he is not alone.
@@karmic-fleas Exactly 1 Geelong player was picked, Jeremy Cameron. No-one is leaving him out, ctfd. If Max Gawn gets a game, my mum gets a game.
Josh daicos isn't even in the team
Weitering over Andrews - because no QLD panel member
On the Wing position - By Kornes logic of you rewards ''All Australian year'' to the best players regardless of their position, just pick the top 22 of the playing group regardless of position, and have a team of only mids. Idiocy.
Or, if positions don’t matter, put Naicos halfback if they’re uncomfortable leaving him out.
Weitering way overdue to make it to be fair. About time for him…Andrew’s should definitely be in over McGovern though.
Why does weitering always have that dopey look on his face, like a little child about to cry
@@taxads7791 becasue he plays for carlton.
Kingy is 100% on the money. The opportunities a pure mid gets far outweighs the opportunities a wing gets. Otherwise you’d pick a team full of midfielders. Can a mid play wing. Absolutely, but would Daicos have had the year he had if he played pure wing? Probably not. Fact is HE ISN’T A WINGMAN!
he is a wingman in the All Australian team. Which means the selectors believe he'd have more talent on the wing than any of the "aCtUaL" wingman that could have been selected, but weren't. Cope
@@callumomalley2515 on your rational then why isn’t Bont or Cripps playing ruck? You don’t pick a team on talent, you SHOULD pick a team on performance vs position.
@@eMDe83974 because the selectors believe Gawn would do better in ruck than cripps.
Do i also have to explain why Cripps wasn't selected for full back lmao. you can't actually be this dumb, please stop trolling
@@callumomalley2515 nice. My point is Daicos played 5 mins of wing. Would he have been more influential than D’Ambrosio? NO! He did not play wing. Wow. Who’s the thick one…
@@eMDe83974 the selectors believe that Daicos would have more influence on the wing than D'Ambrosio, hence their selection.
You, its you, lol
Kingy is the goat the way he stirs up Kane
15:19 Kane talking ABSOLUTE sense!!!!
I understand and agree with Kane. He's trying to say Mass as hasn't had a good enough year as a wingman to out perform the year Daicos has had as a midfielder and therefore, they have put Daicos in, because he's had a 10/10 year as a midfielder, where-as Mass has a 8 or 9/10 year as a winger. I personally think they raise the threshold of % played for positions, from say whatever it is now to 60% from next year. That way the players selected in those positions will have actually played in them as their primary position. This should include wings.
If they don't pick the right player for the right position, they may as well pick Daicos for the ruck.
Kanes argument for putting an onballer on a wing because there aren't many wings to choose from is absurd. You only have a limited number of full backs. Why not put Daicos at full back.
You don’t see that wing and rover are more similar positions than fullback and rover? Weird argument
lol, even better put him in ruck haha
@@vindicespiritus5768 Wing is a lot more specialised than you give credit for i think. Most on-ballers do not spend any time on the wing because it does require a different skill set. Much more likely to see HBF rotate positions because a wing has pretty important defensive duties. Daics would be damaging with ball but would be killed in the 1-1 defensive situations most wingers are in imo. Daics deserves to be in but they should've made the hard call on one of the other on-ball only players.
@@rexanael243 the winger is just a harder-running more self-sacrificing midfielder. It’s not an entirely different skill set. The ball is bounced and the wingers rush in to the centre. I think a lot of people are giving the wingers too much credit
@@davidsmith4572 as much as i agree it’s very different. it’s the same reason him asking why young is on kingy’s half forward flank is stupid because midfielders are basically secondary hhf’s and midfielders could genuinely play on the wing. mids and hhf’s are very similar, mids and wings are somewhat similar. full backs and mids are different as different gets.
pick the players in the positions they get named in on Thursday nights
Kane lets himself down with the wing argument, making zero sense and poor explanation. Might as well put Daicos back pocket then Kane you muppet. There's also better midfielders than Gulden that didn't make AA, why wasn't he replaced?
Why is it that players always owe clubs, and go on about loyalty if this happened to Charlie spargo nobody would give a shit
I dont think Daiks spent much time on a wing, unlike Masso.
Literally every team only really has 1 genuine winger with players rotating on other wing
@@andrewkerr5296 was daiks one of those players that 'rotated' on a wing?. The position then shouldeve gone to a player that 'rotated' in that position.
@@daniellebcooper7160
I've seen Fyfe & Brayshaw play on a wing this year.
A wing Position isn't that hard to play for a good player. Finding a genuine Winger who is good is rare
@@andrewkerr5296 ''Finding a genuine Winger who is good is rare''
Wingers I can think of straight off: McCluggage, J. Berry, D'Ambrosio, J. Fletcher, Gulden, Wood, Bergman, J. Sharp , Mason Wood, Langdon, Hunter, Duncan, Holmes
No Daicos plays wing fr
Charlie Curnow could play Centre halfback/fullback better than most if not all. He regularly dropped back when the game was on the line, Now what Kane?
They shouldve taken Luke Ryan out, put Houston further back, Whitfield half back, Massimo on the wing. Put whichever mid on the bench to take Whitfields bench spot.
Whitfield shouldn’t have even been in the squad! At least Stewart didn’t get picked as he usually does because they love him so much …
Not bad, I’m a Freo fan and was surprised Ryan got in, not his best year
A year ago not playing a duel Australian ruckmen at full forward was a absolute shocker Melbourne has been trying to recover ever since.
Melbourne supporter here, told everyone before the season that we'd implode and we had culture problems, have seen if for a few years, any time one of our players gets picked on, no one stands up for that player, we also can't hold a tackle and that's pathetic.
Hahaha you two are like an old married couple. Love it. I side with Kingy on the wing debate on this one
Kane, I usually don’t agree with what you say, but you are spot on regarding Jakey and Gov
When you had Gary Ablett Snr and Tony Lockett both playing full forward you would never pick only one of them for the one position.
Can't believe I am agreeing 100% with King... Cornes arguments are stupid n childish
So if the argument is you're picking your best players over a specialist wing, then you pick Merrett over Gulden. Some players are getting favourable looks because they're in a stronger team. Merrett basically carried Essendon on his shoulders all season. Gulden a super player, for sure, but I know who I'd be picking first if I could only have one.
I’d be picking Gulden. Much younger, more dangerous around goal, and tackles harder than Merrett …
It will be telling next year when people talk about the named players - are they an "All Australian Player" or an "All Australian Ruckman / Winger / Full Back" - I bet Daicos won't be called the latter. Just my gut check way of working out if a pick "feels" correct
Mad Monday is their day, season is over, it's their free time.
Are they supposed to mope around for weeks on end.
This is ridiculous. Anybody who watches the game knows which players are playing midfield roles and who plays a wingman role. Watch Akers. Every week, he IS a wingman. Picking an AA team should be picking key positional players who have had an elite season in their positional roles, NOT picking your favourites. Also, how Waterman gets picked (just because he’s the only bloke kicking WCE goals) over Curnow who is 3rd overall….is ridiculous. More ridiculous is JMcgovern in the side in such a weak defensive team as WCE. JMcgov in and Andrew’s out is even MORE laughable. AA is speculative nonsense and it loses its credibility more and more every year.
Andrews isn’t in the same league as McGovern!
I agree @@longjohn5322
loving the debate about the AA team, excellent.
Would of been Laura Kane pushing for Nick Daicos to be ON the ground not bench therefore on wing.
How is DEI Laura Kane a selector? Never played a game in her life. It’s bad enough Abby is in there, but at least she played a few games. Enough of this woke nonsense. The woemyn can be AFLW selectors. Kane is a 🦠on the AFL. Sack her now!
King defending having Hayden Young at half forward on his team is farcical 😂 champion data had the same. That’s mind boggling.
@TheTruth-DealWithIt he doesn’t play half forward at all wdym 😂 is was a defender turned mid and plays in the centre. Yes he’s a good player but never plays forward.
All that's needed now to make any sense of this is a team for them to play against.
I agree with king why is daicos on the wing either put him in the middle or on the bench and how does Luke Ryan make the team over Harris Andrew’s and how does treloar make it over Merrett
Even LLoydy was saying that Merritt looks better because Essendon are so poor atm. He is a great player in a poor team where Trelor is a great player in a greta team still getting plenty of touches and impact. Poor Merritt has been carrying the bombers. i do agree a bit stiff but id say thats why, hence Sheezel and Xerri didnt make imo
@@BanksyOz Daicos is the same though. Collingwood nothing without him this year. Feel like Sheezel gets overlooked too much because he is in such a poor side
@BanksyOz
I don’t see being in a crap team making them look better as a good enough excuse.
McGovern plays backline at the eagles. They get smashed often and the balls always in his area. He’s good but being in a shit team means he’s getting more looks at the ball than other defenders.
Same as Waterman. He’s the best forward in a shit team so he’s gonna look even better. Like who’s there 2nd best goal kicker for the year? Jamie Cripps? When their only real forward option is Waterman he’s not exactly competing with teammates for service.
I’m not saying they don’t deserve spots but being in a crap team shouldn’t matter.
Merrett has been consistent most the year and was being talked about as a possible AA Captain halfway through the season. The bombers dropped away but Merrett has still been solid and trying to carry them basically every week.
Not getting a spot was a bit of a snub.
Kane has just confirmed that they just pick the most flashy midfielders and shove them in the team even when they would form the most cohesive team as a whole. Daicos might be great but he isnt a wingman.
Honestly who cares if Daicos misses out... Hes not a wingman.
And every other midfielder in that group had a more consistent year of impact with the ball. Daicos had some absolutely outrageous games and he may well win the brownlow, but he might not. And without knowing if hes the brownlow winner i would comfortably swap him for D'Ambrosio on the wing.
Who cares if Nick Daicos the coaches award winner and current equal favourite in the Brownlow misses out completely on All Australian selection. You we’re joking, I hope
Yeah, with the amount of 1v1s on the wing, I ain't taking Daicos over D'Ambrosio...
Daicos over D'ambrosio any day of the week. Not even that much of a comparison when you look at what's given to the team.
A month ago, Merrett was being talked about as possible AA captain, then doesn't even make it.
Massimo robbed!
Nah
I’d be interested to see Kingy, and a small panel of sympathisers (and I might be one of them), pick a team by position.
How do the Eagles get any players in the All Australian Team let alone two ?
1 million a year for 5 years...nothing to complain about, despite the horrific injury. He will not play again, but suck it up princess, you're set for life. Lots of people struggle to put food on their plates or a roof over their heads.
The same discussion every single year if a player doesn't play said position then they shouldn't be named at said position in the AA squad
I agree with Kingy that two wingman should be picked, but I also agree that if you are adding a player, you also need to say who should be removed. Also agree with Kane that Daicos 100% deserves to be in the team. I would bring him in for Neale or Treloar, don’t mind who you would pick out of those two.
The problem with Kane is he thinks everything’s black and white and his opinion is final. Believe it or not others can make great contrasting points that can also be right. It’s AFL, the whole blood sport lives in gray area
So much of footy is grey area. I think Kane plays the black and white card often for entertainment and debating purposes.
Tsu-Maher-y > Vol-Kane-O
You realise he isn't the only selector though?
Kane is correct though lol. The best team in the country has Daicos on the wing instead of any actual wingman. Anyone (with a brain) trying to select the best team in the country would opt for Daicos on the wing instead of any of the wingman who played wing, because Daicos is that good.
@@callumomalley2515if this was a team and they were playing another team, would they put Naicos on the wing? No
Zach Merrett should not only be in the team but be captain
Yeah nah
It’s unlucky for Merrett, but they usually pick a captain who leads his team into finals and premiership contention.
He should be in the team but, based on above, I’d rather Bont as captain.
Should be in the team, but Bont and Cripps are well above him as Captains
Literally the minute he got hurt, Melbourne have treated Petracca poorly. They let him play while he was bleeding internally. Everyone watching on television knew something was extremely wrong, how the doctors and the club didn’t was unfathomable
After talking about culture culture culture. The Dees definitely "showed" what "culture" they have. A culture that leaves a guy out in the cold after he almost died. And if you think something like that can be fixed... you got no idea. Trac should leave the club.
“High maintenance”. Perfect description of Petracca by Kane. Club needs to take a hard line with this nonsense. “See you on November 23 Christian for day one of pre-season training.” End of discussion.
Kane is braindead with his reasoning "You have to take out Daicos because the selectors didn't do their job properly"
Shit in under 12s in the 90s I got a broken jaw and my coach was in hospital with ne the next morning and also recieved a phone call from the President and as I couldn't play for 12 weeks I was given a role after 6 weeks helping them at training until I could rejoin training and was presented with my own jumper with a requested number from the start of the season. That is gar better treatment than what he was given
Kane's comments about whether you'd select Nick over Massimo for a grand final are silly, because while yes, I probably would select Nick over Massimo for a GF, the AA team doesn't play games. It's supposed to be a representation of the best players who have played in every position on a footy team for the season.
Serong being a starting on baller is crazy 😂 he had a great first half of the year then tailed off and they lost their last 4! N daicos to on ball, Serong out the team and sheezle to the wing as he played there a bit at least.
Don’t mind that
@vindicespiritus5768 serong deserved his spot last year for sure but overall this year hasnt been as good. He's a magnet 🧲 but doesn't hurt teams much
great call
Is Kingy sitting backwards on the chair?
Cornesy really frustrating me here. Petracca nearly died due to the Melbourne medical team's mistake, sending him back on lost crucial moments, we could be in a much worse situation if he had spent even a few more minutes on that pitch. To try and say that it's high maintenance to expect the bare minimum of being CONTACTED by the club is insane. The club should have been his main point of contact and support in helping him, and they've literally not even reached out to his family.
Is Chad Cornes related to Sam McClure or is it just co-incidental that he also lacks the ability to think.
Roffey HAS TO GO!!!!! she was everywhere when we won the flag...now no sighting! Take Pert too
Not enough Swans in the team 😂
I think Kane and Kingy both have point. How can you leave N. Daicos out? Yet Bailey Dale is indispensible to the WB. Midfielders get more opportunities, so they seem to shine more. Look at Ed Richards. Excellent but not very visible in defense. Moved to the midfield, he suddenly becomes a star. So how many players outside the midfield are there that are capable of racking up 30 disposals every week if moved to the midfield? Probably more than 40.
Does the AA team need to consist of the best players or best key position players? Seems like no one will be happy about the AA tean until this question is answered.
You could have the same conversation if you had put Daicos at full-forward.
Coach would pick 10 others on the wing ahead of Massimo if you were picking a team to play a grand final - Daicos, Merett, Brayshaw...
Things change Kano, just like you as a firefighter
Imagine picking 2 players from the Eagles when they only won 5 games and got belted most weeks
Yea because they are both good players
Because AA is an individual award son not a team award 🤣🤡
Team performance isn't necessarily part of the criteria. McGovern was outstanding this season, Waterman perhaps lucky but still an excellent year.
The fact that we sucked as a team makes their performances more extraordinary than if we were good. Gov was a colossus down back, easily stopped at least 20 points game extra being scored against us while jake was 1st the league for marks inside 50 and 5th in the Coleman despite terrible delivery most of the time. As individuals they were exceptional
Picking one who just had 9 kicked on him over the number 1 rated key defender because he plays for the lions..
Brilliant show boys, love the conflict and clash of opinions. Don’t listen to these dead shit trolls in the comments
What and when will Kane Cornes be ever humbled? Even when there was evidence that the caller was right, couldn’t even manage a small apology. 🙄
Daicos on a wing...then why wasn't Cripps named as the AA Ruckman
As much as I feel for petracca and don’t want to detract from the severity of the incident, I agree with a lot of what Kane said. There’s a lot of things just being assumed without any idea about petraccas side of the equation and his willingness to communicate and actively engage with the club in all of this. It seems selfish to point to wanting to play for big Melbourne clubs after signing a 7 year deal on good coin. Also I remember well before his injury in a post match interview he said “I don’t know why when it’s cold the Melbourne fans don’t really come out”. Clearly it’s been an issue for a while well before this injury saga. Hopefully both parties can come to some sort of resolution.
Hahahahah Kane Cornes having a go at people 'Always sooking and whingeing'.
That's rich.... something about a pot and a black kettle comes to mind...
Of Ricciuto's 8 All Australians, only ONE was as a midfielder! 4 on the bench, and 3 as a forward. So much for picking midfielders as midfielders back in the day 🤣
Yeah difference is he sits 5th overall on Adelaide's goal kicking with 292 goals. So he actually has merrit to being picked as a fwd
@@damobax8344what’s the difference? Warner and Heeney kicked 60 goal between them
@jimmyli8103 I've got no issues with them where they are
King's reluctance to name who he would kick off the All-Australian team to make way for his chosen one is ridiculous.
The idea you HAVE to choose two players who fulfil some nebulous criteria for being a "winger" is ridiculous. Some teams might have one or two players who take that role all year, most don't. But every team has key and small forwards, key and small defenders, rucks and several midfielders of different types. Beyond that, it's pointless to get more specific.
rare kingy W. Wingers are wingers and can’t be compared to an on-baller.
Catch up at Max Gawns wine bar. How dumb ? I’ve said for 18 months Gawn and Goodwin are part of the problem. Pert is just a BS artist, Richardson is an ordinary performer and Roffey is so far out of her depth. Bartlett was parachuted out of the club bc he spoke up about some home truths about what was happening. Hope it all comes home to roost. Need to make Viney captain as a starting point.
wanting to be treated like a human being = high maintenance. what a crap take kane
Clearly Kane just isn't interested in engaging with the point the Kingy was trying to make. Almost every other award in the game is already a midfielders award. All-Australian is a chance to recognise the performance of a player regardless of where they play. You can talk all you like about how the game is actually played, but you can't say there's a single team that will turn up on gameday bringing in 10 plus midfielders out of their 22 named players
Kane reads Instagram comments
yeah drop nick daicos, shows how much you understand the AA team selection
Bloke almost dies and apparently he’s high maintenance? Solid form Kane 🤦🏼♂️
Petracca is clearly someone who is more a “professional athlete” than just a footy player. Post 21 premiership professionalism around Melbourne has clearly dropped off, that’s just publicly I imagine it’s pretty bad behind closed doors. I highly doubt he hasn’t tried to turn it around and realised he’s wasting his time. Hes been publicly frustrated in the past. Telling Melbourne fans to come to the game etc.
Then add how they handled his injury, it’s clearly not a win loss issue that he thinks is ruining his brand.
Cornsey jumped ship to 7 huh? Its such a shame we don't have the real footy show anymore.
With the “Nick daicos could play a wing better than Massimo” yes he could but I think the Bont could play as a key forward better than many so let’s put him there
I don't know how Kingy puts up with the rubbish that comes out of Cornes' mouth. Just about everything Cornes says is tinged with controversy to enhance clicks...I wonder how much of the rubbish he spouts he actually believes.
D’Ambrosio has had a good year, but GOOD LORD HES OVERHYPED. He played 13 great games and went missing for about 7 of them. Thats not an AA year. Everyone remembers the last 3 weeks, but forgets about the rest of the year.
ABSOLUTELY correct bro 100%.😊
You know absolutely nothing
Hawthorn started 0-5 and Mass was rated in the 2 best wingers during this time. Hawthorn then came good and he maintained his Champion Data rating as 2nd highest rated winger for rest of season.
His season started strong and got better and better as the season went on.
Mass definitely had an AA year.
It is not a Mass v Daicos argument…both should have made the side in the positions they play majority of time…or bench.
AA side and Gulden needs a rest…who plays wing? No specialized wingers then?
Nah Kane is way off - Kingy nailed it.
David King getting owned here. It’s funny to watch.
You like Kane 😂?