Solzhenitsyn's Russian Nationalism vs. the West: Ayn Rand's Case
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This was Ayn Rand's answer to a question after a speech on another subject.
Question: What is your opinion of Alexander Solzhenitsyn?
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(00:00) - Intro
(00:09) - What is your opinion of Alexander Solzhenitsyn?
"The Moral Factor," Ford Hall Forum, 1976
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Bravo! And another thank you to ARI for uploading this for me to hear for the first time.
That was amazing! Thank you for adding the big subtitles! Keep up the good waork and uploading these Ayn Rand audios!
I recall reading that when he settled in the USA he hated the culture. That it was to capitalistic and not religious.
Regardless, we shouldn't take Ayn Rand as a deity who is always correct.
@@scaringclaring5240 ?????
@@scaringclaring5240She was very devout - to atheism.
Letter bumped to top of reading list. I'd be interested to learn who she felt wrote more reliably than Solzhenitsyn, though ultimately I'd probably go for something written after the archives were opened.
I read his Gulag Archipelago long before I found Ayn Rand. I don't remember much about the book, except that it was depressing and, for reasons that I didn't understand at the time, unsatisfactory.
There's some beauty to be found in the book, and some great examples of perseverance and courage. Indeed even the writing of the book (which is three volumes, by the way) is an amazing example of what one man's courage can accomplish, since much of it was written secretly and was always hidden until it was finally smuggled out of the Soviet Union and published. It can be depressing, though, in places...
Wow. This was new to me.
His essay on "Live Not By Lies" is still powerful and largely true, but looks like he didn't live up to it himself (although I'm willing to chalk up a bulk of it to errors of knowledge. After all, he didn't have Ayn Rand and Henry Hazlitt to learn from. Perhaps he didn't know any better.)
Same can be said about Dostoyevski. IRL he was a rather disgusting individual even though in his books he appears like a pillar of morality.
Rand didn't exactly live up to her own beliefs either. She manipulated others to satisfy her personal desires. As much as I admire much of her writing and reasoning, I find her personally unlikable and possessing feet of clay.
Perhaps because the experience of capitalism after the fall of communism was a negative one - an experience that led to being ruled by mafias and oligarchs. (Lesson number one: when you privatize, make sure that mafia bosses are not at the head of the queue)
@@adrianainespena5654 i would not call "that" capitalism.
@@romany8125 Well, that's what the Russians were told it was. The time to say that it was "not capitalism" was when everyone was touting it. Remember, during the Irish Famine, Trevelyan denied help because it would interfere with the "free market". At the time no one told him that this was not a truly free market. But now, when people use the Irish Famine as example, we are treated with explanations that the market was not free them.
We are not the ones that need the explanation. It was Trevelyan, and the two million Irish that starved to death.
I was baffled at first by Rand's comments until I realized I was thinking of Andrei Sakharov, not Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn.
He was for Templeton Foundation
Too bad.
And of course S is a favorite of Jordan Peterson
Tuned J.B.P. out after he admitted to an audience of 12M people that the only logical and ration thing You can do when faced with the enormous burden of living is Su!c!d€... I had not even read or heard any of Rand at that time. But I know he was inherently evil. His mentality is that of mass murd€re£s
Does anybody know what letter she is referencing?
"Letter to the Soviet Leaders" (1973 or '74)
Anybody got a letter to the authorities before deportationshe mentioned at the start?
Was it before being imprisoned in gulag or after?
Uncharitable to say the least. And industrialization on a Western or Soviet level seems to rest on the disabling of subsistence which is in turn tied to obligatory monetization in terms of dollars, rubles, euros, etc.
Solzhenitsyn wrote a book called 200 Years Together, about the history of Jews in Russia. Rand was Jewish. Put two and two together.
why not explain that in your own words
Im confused because she said solzhenitsyn was a communist and against marxism??
Civilization runs on religion. There's no way out of that. The new religion is represented by the pyramid on the currency. An attempted shift is going from the sanity of truth to the sanity of enlightenment.
Does anyone recall a very profound attack on Russian culture by Rand?
We The Living? Unless you have something else in mind by culture.
Yes, pertaining to the driving philosophy of Russia that had existed for centuries
You might be talking about her letter to that Russian chess grandmaster who played Bobby Fischer. Soplosky ? Or something
She talks about Russia mostly
@@keenanmiller6231your thinking of Boris Spasky.
@@williamduffy1227 yes. 🙏
Read 200 years together and understand.
Exactly.
She's a bit too emotional here. As if it's personal. I'd take everything she says here with a grain of salt.
She had some pretty strong opinions about the man based on just one of his letters!
You know nothing. @@polarvortex3294
You can determine everything about someone from what ideas they adhere to and the assumptions they make.
Amen!
Putin took Solzhenitsan at his word.
She probably also had read or heard about Solzhenitsyn's book "200 Years..." which is his anti-jewish screed. Or other things he had said and written that were anti-jewish. Rand, though obviously a great thinker and writer seems to have completely downplayed or ignored or forgotten the role of bolsheviks, some even from the US, in the civil war takeover of russia to birth the soviet union that she escaped.
Didn't this book came out after her death? Majority of Solzhenitsin fans and apologists (Peterson, Freidman) tend to ignore its existence.
No, she certainly has not downplayed it at all
Given that the book was first published in 2002 and she died 20 years earlier, I can say that it was not possible for her to have read the book.
@DerykRobosson you're right. Both she and Solzhenitsyn knew the history of Russia and the bolshevik takeover. Odd though, 200 Years hasn't been fully published in English yet.
@@tomjeff1743
It is always amazing to see how does that see everything to the evil lens of their tribe also think that of other people .
Of course she is going to hate him, she is after all a …
Exactly!
A what?
This is atrocious!
Elaborate
@@jj4791 No. First I need to read Solzhenitsyn's letter.